1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - Barry Alvarez (former Wisconsin Athletic Director and Head Football Coach): July 26th, 10am
Episode Date: July 26, 2022Charlie Meyer, the Lincoln Saltdogs GM joins DP first followed by the former Husker football player turned Wisconsin AD and HC Barry Alvarez who joins the show to talk about NIL, conference realignmen...t, the transfer portal, and everything elseAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Welcome to one-on-one from Indianapolis.
Scott Frost is now up on the big board.
Rico, he's up on the big stage.
Is there any chance we can get?
to that.
Is that possible?
Okay.
Let's join in again.
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This is a day to be on stream, if possible.
Lots of going on, several cameras working, and lots going on here from Lucas Oil Stadium.
Trev Alberts is in the room, of course, holding court currently, and Scott is doing his thing.
Treb's going to let Scott talk, and then he'll stop by here.
We'll have Barry Alvarez in the hour.
We'll have some more Husker players within the hour as well.
So buckle in, stay tuned, and do your thing.
Let's bring in Charlie Meyer from the Lincoln,
on the Honda League and Hotline.
Charlie, how are you doing this morning?
I'm doing great. How about you, BP?
It's a good day.
You know, it's a good day. We're in Indianapolis, Big Ten Media
Day. You've been at this sort of thing. You understand
the importance of messaging and presence in this
space. I'm going to put you in Scott Frost's shoes
for a second, Charlie.
I'm going to ask you to speak to Husker Nation
in the voice of Scott Frost. What do you
want and wish for for the Huskers
football program. Let's go.
Well, obviously,
we all want
continued success and, you know, hopefully
they can turn it around
here. I know it's been probably really
frustrating for him
the past three or four seasons
here and, you know, hopefully
they get off to a good start here
over in Ireland. It's
a good indication of what the season
may hold for them, but it's, you know,
It's one of those things when you're putting the puzzle together each and every year with your recruits.
And similar to what we do with putting players together on the rosters,
you hope they can perform and make things happen for you.
And that's really, I guess, when I look at what Scott and the Hustler Program,
football program, has to look at, is that they need to start performing to make things happen.
at Memorial Stadium this summer
this fall.
It's an interesting thing
that leadership in sports,
there are common traits that cross over
from sport to sport, position to position.
When you're around elite people,
what are the qualities that jump out at you
to let you know that, in fact,
you are in elite company when it comes to an athlete
coach or an executive?
Well, I think it's, you know,
having a vision,
You know, obviously, and I think the other key thing is being able to communicate, you know, throughout the organization.
Our philosophy here at Haymarket Park is, you know, we're one team.
Whether it's the front office or the team on the field, we're all going to win together, we're going to lose together.
And, you know, we all go to battle together.
And I think when you look at leaders and that type of thing,
it's all about leading to make progress.
And I look at Brett Jody and my coaching staff.
It's a matter of when we start the season that we continue to improve throughout the season.
And those traits as far as leading people along and believing in what you're trying to accomplish here,
that we all have one common goal
to win a championship
that it's, you know, like in our league,
there's 12 teams. It's only going to be one that's going to end up
the end of the year with not losing a game
and being a champion.
And similar to what's happening in the Big Ten
with Scott and all the other
university programs
as far as everybody's trying to lead to
a championship and,
you know, continue to show progress
each and every week
when we're playing as far as we're doing.
Every game we're in,
we're also continuing to prove
and be better as a season goes along.
How does this thing happen?
How does a program or an organization
change its location and elevation?
You guys have a pretty high standard with the salt dogs.
You expect success on a high level,
and then there's friction, and then there's quick sand, right?
When you start to struggle, the harder you struggle,
the harder you struggle, the deeper you go.
But from a leadership standpoint, how do you push this thing?
How do you reload an organization and a coach?
How do you get that done?
Well, I think the key thing is, you know, it's all about attitude
and having a positive attitude.
You're going to run into situations where you can't control injuries.
You can't control when people get hurt
or in a situation where people get picked up,
basically we've got to plug and play
and find someone else to fill those shoes for a player,
and hopefully we find a player that can compete.
I think that's the key thing is that you find people
that have the desire to want to compete
and to get better each and every day,
but it all starts with an attitude.
I think when you think about life
and, you know, it's about 10% of what happens to you,
and 90% of it is how you react to it,
and I think, you know, how you react to situations,
and when times are tough, you know,
it's all about how you react to it,
and I think reacting in a positive way gives you a much better chance of success,
but it's one of those things that, you know,
you're trying to find people that match up to your philosophies
and your leadership style and your vision of what you really want to try to create.
And so it's a matter of what I would say earlier is plugging and playing
and make sure you've got people that have the same goals and same ideas
and same positive attitude.
Those things go a long ways as far as success in my eyes.
We're talking to Charlie Meyer of the Lincoln Salt Dogs,
and you guys are home this week and got an opportunity to turn things around
and kind of redirect.
who's in town and what can we expect?
Well, we got Milwaukee Milkmanner here for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then Fargo
leading our division.
They'll be here on the weekend, and then we have Gary coming in on Monday, Tuesday,
Wednesday next week.
So we've got a nine-game homestand here starting today, and the weather looks great.
And, you know, we're making some moves with,
roster and hopefully to make a run here for the last month of the season.
And we got added some pitching and we're going to add a bat here.
A couple new bats that we got coming in for players that will be here this week.
And so trying to, again, like I said, plug and play and make a run here for the remainder
of the season.
We've got 18 home games left and we've got about 40, 40 games left on the season.
where we're at sitting here in the fourth spot in the division.
So if today was to end the season we'd be in the playoffs,
that's really kind of what our goal is here is to continue to solidify our position
and get into the playoffs.
And you never know what's going to happen as the playoffs start.
It's going to be an interesting run.
Again, you're at home for a long stretch, change of rosters.
What can you tell us about some of the new additions to the,
to the roster.
Well, we picked up a pitcher that was,
with a college pitcher that
didn't get drafted and
he's a left-hander and
he's in the low 90s as far as,
and he'll be a starting pitcher that will be bringing
on to later this week.
I'll probably start, probably the Thursday of
Friday is kind of what we're planning for.
We picked up
Jason Rogers,
a veteran hitter that was on our roster,
and he was actually sitting on our inactive list,
and had some family situations,
so he didn't join the team back in May,
and so now he's going to be joining us here at the end of July here
and for the month of August,
so we're excited about having him be a part of the team.
Those are two people that we got,
and we got radar at Skandio, a shortstop that we picked up,
from the Atlantic League that I'll have a AAA double A time that I think he'll be an added
at for our line.
So we're excited about what's happening here this week and we'll see how things play out.
And, like you said, we're hopeful that we're plugging and playing the right type of things.
But we won't know until we get on the field and start playing.
So we'll see what happens this week.
What's the promotional stuff going on at Haymarket Park?
Well, we got this week, we've got the traditional triple-by Tuesday today
with the Best Medical Association break three non-perishables
and you get a GA ticket.
And we got winter Wednesday, Thursday, Fireworks Friday,
and then we got baseball card set giveaway on Friday.
And then we have a Marvel night with some Marvel characters on Saturday.
And then it's Family Fund on Sunday.
those are the promotions that are coming up and, you know, we're excited about, you know,
here we are that end of July and the weather looks like it's not going to be as brutally hot
as it was this past week, which we were, right, thankful we're on the road.
Yeah, exactly.
But now we're back home and it looks like it's going to be mid-80s all week, so it'll be,
should be good, great weather to come out and watch us all dogs.
Charlie, can you drop off, can you have some of those cards dropped off for the station so we can give some away?
Is that possible?
Sure.
Yeah, we can do that.
We'll get some of those cards.
I will get some baseball card sets and I'll get those off to the station to you.
Yeah, and we'll give them away with our four tickets that we have to give away.
We'll have Rico and Nick give those away.
Charlie, have a great weekend.
I won't be there for BP.
I'll be in Dallas.
Okay.
Eric Strickland is there.
He's going to handle it.
Steve Taylor, be there as well.
We'll have a full lineup for you, Kevin Meyer from Meyer Cork and Bottle.
We've got some folks that are going to come down and hang out and take some hacks.
So it's going to be a good weekend down at the ballpark.
All right.
Well, safe travels, and we'll look forward to seeing you sometime soon.
That is Charlie Meyer from the Lincoln Salt Dogs.
And, again, it's a long home stretch.
So if you haven't gotten out to see the Salt Dogs, here's your chance.
You've got nine straight days.
of home games, events going on every night, player cards are going to be distributed.
Thursday, Thursday, they've got the whole chavang.
And remember this.
Get your perishables, go into your cupboard.
Even if you don't need the tickets, go and drop off perishables down at Haymarket Park.
You can do that.
Any three, and they'll get your voucher for a future game.
Go ahead and do that.
It's stuff that's in your cupboard.
You're not using it.
You're not going to eat it.
Get it down there to Charlie and the Salt Dog so they can do their thing.
Again, live here, Scott Frost just talked.
Now, Mike Loxley from Maryland is up on the big board.
Harbar and Michigan are in point.
Pat Fitzgerald, Kirk Farrant, PJ Fleck, the order as such.
Scott Frost just went.
Locksley and Maryland now, PJ Fleck will be next.
Kurt Farrant, Pat Fitzgerald, Jim Harbar.
We're working on being able to get you the audio.
from that as well we need to be able to plug into what they're doing but the people that we need
to get to weren't here when we arrived so we can work on that for you as well lots to talk about there
rshawn is back in the space i want to pull him on because there's lots to talk about
did you did you did you notice anything from scott's time on the big stage uh you know i mean
the biggest part that i noticed is that i think he understands
he's got to get it done that this year is the year.
Other than that, that I was probably about it.
I didn't really gain any more than what I've got before.
That's, see, that's, let me say this.
So Tom Allen will come by and he will open up to you.
And that's just part of the personality and I get it.
Different coaches will come by.
PJ Fleck.
Right?
They'll share pieces of themselves.
I hope.
I hope that Scott Frost finds, like, some peace, some calm.
Yeah.
Some control, right?
Some inner peace.
Yeah, I mean, because this is wearing on it.
Yeah.
Right?
Am I, am I?
I think so.
I think, right?
Like, I don't want to speak for him.
I'm not speaking for him.
Well, I think it's just taxing because, you know, he's got to answer questions about
officer coordinators and coaches.
We're bringing Eric Strickland.
We're going to put Strickland on the pipes as well.
Let's bring in Hussker Hall of Famer Eric Strickland.
How you doing, man?
Yo, listen, this is amazing.
It's been amazing.
It's been amazing.
Got a chance to talk with Quentin Newsom.
Got a little sound bite quickly from Garrett Nelson.
Set in on Scott Frost.
Yeah, so it's been great to hear them be able to speak to us
with regards to how they feel about what's coming up,
how camp is about to start.
Got some interesting information on the quarterback race.
That it's still up for grabs.
It's not locked in stocked, as most people would have thought.
Can I say that that doesn't make me feel better?
Me neither.
That doesn't make me feel better.
Look, you walk in this space, and in this space, again,
the beauty of being here is to watch people walk in,
and present themselves in their form.
Like, this is, hey, this is who we are.
Like, that's why you're here.
It's called media days.
Whether you don't like it or not, it's media days.
Like, this is a presentation.
This is how people are going to talk about you the rest of the year
until you put games on the tape.
So when you tell me that you don't have,
that the person that touches the ball and affects the game the most,
you're not locked in on it.
That makes me lean away.
Like, you went through a whole lot to get the dude.
Right?
Right.
They didn't come for free.
Right?
So there's a lot there to talk about.
Well, we're going to bring it.
We're going to get a lot smarter right now.
We're going to get a lot smarter.
The legend, the legend.
We're going to get a lot smarter.
So we're here for Sean Jackson, Eric Strickland,
and now we're going to bring in another goat.
Go.
We're going to bring in another goat.
The legend.
Let's bring you.
Let's bring him in.
Barry Alvers, coach, how the heck are you?
I'm great.
This is except, thank you for doing this.
First of all, flash that ring again.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of bling in here.
Come on, he's modest, man.
We're from Nebraska.
He's still Nebraska.
I don't care.
I can't even look at that.
See?
Well, that's question.
That's question one.
That's question one.
When the Huskers go up or down, do you go with them?
Is that in your heart still?
I root for Nebraska.
You know, I spent 10 years in Lincoln as a player.
I started my coaching career in Lincoln, got married in Lincoln, two of my three kids are born in Lincoln.
Wow.
So I still have a lot of friends back there.
So I root from Nebraska.
I really do, except when they play us.
He didn't say us.
Coach, I got a question for you.
DP, please jump in here.
Okay, so I played in Nebraska.
97 was my senior year.
Of course, Coach Osborne retired in 1997.
I know you were able to be underneath, you know,
coaches' toolies as far as football goes.
Some of the plays and some of the things,
did you take some of the stuff to Wisconsin from Nebraska?
I tell you what I took from Nebraska.
I played for Bob Devaney.
Yeah.
The great one.
And, you know, the out-of-season program,
Nebraska was the first team in the country
to have a full-time strength coach
when they hired Boyd Eppley.
Boyd was a classmate of mine.
And the walk-on program.
Back then, Nebraska, we had so many players.
You know, there were unlimited numbers in the Big 8.
And when I played, you know, the freshman team had 75, 80 guys.
Yeah.
They had their own schedule.
And spring practice, I can remember we used to scrimmage in shifts.
You'd have three teams practice in the morning and two in the afternoon.
We have five teams, offense and defense.
Wow.
And a lot of those guys weren't scholarship, guys who were guys trying to earn scholarships.
Well, that's one reason I liked Wisconsin because there's one division one school in a state like Nebraska.
Even though Nebraska is a sparsely populated state, they like football.
And, you know, the kids want to play there.
Same thing with Wisconsin.
I give them an opportunity.
They walk on.
They do well enough.
You earn a scholarship.
And so I build a walk-on program like Nebraska.
Because then, you know, I based my whole thing on running the football because I knew in Wisconsin we get big guys.
We'll have a lot of speed there in that state.
Yeah.
You know, but we got big palukas.
And so I knew I could have big lines and then we go out and find running backs and skilled players.
But the thing I took more than anything else from there was how you run a program, being physical.
That was my makeup because that's the way I learned it.
and then the walk-on program.
That's what I was going to ask, because you're absolutely right.
One of the biggest staunch type of runners that I've ever seen is just a bruiser was Ron Dane.
Like, how was you able to kind of say, you know, because other people probably would have looked at Ron at linebacker or D.N.
Pullback.
Yeah.
Coolback.
Right?
So how did you come to the realization that, you know what, Ron is going to be my bell cow?
I watched, I watched film.
Ronnie was highly recruited.
It came down to us and us and, he's from New Jersey, us in Ohio State.
But we had taken some players from that school.
I watched Ron, and it was a very simple high school film,
and he was lined up about a yard behind the quarterback,
and they'd turn around, and they'd hand him the ball,
and he'd mush it, and the line would move.
But every once in a while, they'd give him a little room,
And he'd get in the secondary.
He run four or five.
He was 200.
He showed up.
He was 260.
Yeah.
He just wanted the high school, the national discus and shot put out in California.
Wow.
And on his way back, he stopped in as a freshman.
And my strength coach came up and this cat weighs 265 pounds.
And he just won't beat everybody in a 10-yard sprint.
You know, he at first, he could run.
And I told him when I recruited him, I said, you like to carry the ball?
He said, yeah.
I said, man, it's not very heavy.
I'm going to give it to you a lot of times.
I did.
He carried the ball.
There are games he carried 47.
He went one stretch, 47 times, 49 times, 51 times.
Ooh.
In three straight weeks.
I wouldn't let him out of the game.
Yeah.
Right.
He put tapping his helmet.
I said, no, no, one more.
One more first time.
Because, coach, you know, once they start hit off a big run, they get a boost
the energy, right?
You know that.
Yeah.
I just want another way.
Coach, this thing has transitioned.
It's evolved and re-evolved.
The conference itself has evolved.
The style of play and now the reach.
Now it's California is included in this thing.
I think back now.
There wasn't long ago they were saying you were reaching to get in Nebraska.
Right?
Like this was as far west as it goes and now it's California.
For you, style of play, NIL, transfer portal,
where does coach stand on the state of the game?
You know what?
I told my, you know, before I retired, I told all my coaches at 23 teams at Wisconsin,
I told them, I don't worry about transfers.
That's your responsibility.
If a kid, if you, you recruited him.
You were in their home.
You met their parents.
You see whether they're helicopter parents.
You see what kind of kid he is.
You brought him in here.
You recruit him.
If you can't build a relationship with a player where he does, or he, where he,
doesn't want to let you down and wants to play for you.
If you can't build that kind of relationship and he wants to leave, that's on you.
That's on you.
So if the kid's not happy, let him go.
I don't have any problem with that.
I really don't.
The NIL, I was always for that, but you cannot allow to get involved in the recruitment.
If the kid's smart enough, I like what a lot of the schools are doing as far as teaching the kids how to market themselves,
how to manage their money.
You got to pay tax, which none of them know understand that.
You know, you make, you do something for a thousand bucks.
You don't get a thousand bucks, you know.
Yeah.
They don't understand all that.
So you learn a little business.
You learn a little the way of the world.
And you learn how to market yourself.
Because I'm all for anything of the kids.
Whatever you can do for the kids, you do it.
I like it.
I like where we're going.
I think it's going to settle, settle down.
It's not about some of these schools.
you're reading about kids signing and how much money they're going to get.
Hell, you've got to go play and make your name valuable.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't have any problem with that.
Hey, coach, I wanted to ask you growing up, this is Jay Foreman, by the way.
I'm a former guy.
I know, Coach.
I'm not going to ask you why you didn't get Alphemyl scholarship.
I'm going to tell you, Coach.
I didn't finally get a coach.
Hey, I'm going to tell you, man.
Hey, the former lineback, I might want to go tackle you, but I didn't got over it, man.
I'm saying. Hey, I'm going to tell you people out there. Coach Alvarez, I was so, I'm
to tell you, I grew up going against Carl McCullough, and I'm thinking like, man, I did him in,
Jason Sutter, I did him in. I wanted to go to Wisconsin so bad, and they ain't all for me a scholarship.
But I want to ask you this, though, growing up watching the Big Ten, right? How proud are you
that the Big Ten went from like, oh, it's slow? And you probably knew it was better than what
people would think back when I was in high school in the 90s to I think and me and D.P.
argue I think Big Ten is the best brand of football top the bottom. How proud are you?
And talk about the transition of finally people understanding like what the Big Ten's been for
probably five years prior to like being. That's okay. That's okay.
Anybody can think whatever they want. Sure. That's true. But then when you line up against a
Big Ten school at Southern Cal, the AD at Southern Cal called me. He wants me to go out and talk to his
coaches about coming into the big 10.
And I'm going to tell you what I will tell those coaches.
I'm going to tell you what I heard when Penn State came in.
We played Penn State.
And the next week, middle of the week, it's on a Wednesday.
I get a call from Coach Paterno.
He says, you know what, Jay.
He said, we haven't practiced since we played again.
We're so beat up after we played you.
Right.
And then you might have to turn around next week and play Iowa.
And they're going to do the same thing.
Right.
And Minnesota's going to do the same thing.
And if you aren't physical enough up front, if you don't have defensive linemen that can hold up, you can't play in this league.
And then our guys are going to spread you out.
They're going to throw the ball around.
Right.
But they're going to beat you up first.
They're going to, you're going to have to prove that you can stand in there and be physical enough to play.
Right.
And I'm proud of that.
And, you know, so that's the thing.
And then, you know, I just read about someone.
someone sent me a clipping from Omaha talking about, you know, Nebraska hasn't been good
and stopping a run since they've been in the league.
And you wonder why they haven't done well.
Yeah, there it is.
That's the ultimate equalizer to these old basketball on grass.
Another thing I wanted to ask you about is when you talk about being physical, right?
Me and Vijay, we grew up, you know, with Coach Osborne, so you knew, you know, how the practices were.
Just talk about being physical.
You can't just do it on Saturday.
It's just like a way of life.
And people don't understand it when I say it.
Now as a coach, you'll give your explanation on that.
I watch practice.
I used to go, my guy, I'd go 20 minutes every day inside drill.
Right.
That's it.
That's seven on seven.
And my coaches actually end up getting upset with me.
We got to back off.
Let's just do X amount of plays.
Right.
Because I'd go rapid fire.
One's, two, ones, two, one, two, one.
Just a rapid fire.
One, you know, going good against good.
We wouldn't tackle, but you're, I mean, it's full, it's full go for the line.
And that carries over for the game.
I go watch practices.
I don't see anybody doing that.
I can't even see the offensive line.
I'm looking around.
Where the hell are?
Yeah.
I mean, I walk on my practice field.
I walk in Nebraska's practice field.
You know those big odds is those.
That's the line over there.
Right.
I go some of these places.
And I look around where the hell's the line.
Right.
They all look to say.
Tight in on.
down right yeah so that's the thing in our league you're going to have to line you know i don't
care whether we run it we our teams throw it around well enough well enough right yeah and and and
we have some teams that spread it out and throw it but to win this league you better be physical
and you've got to be able to bounce back after playing a physical game because the next week you're
going to do it again so i'm really proud of the football that we play here i think our coaches in this league are
outstanding. I think, I think, you know, top to bottom, you go every school, and you have
outstanding coaches. And so I like the brand of football we play. We're here with the legend.
We're here with the legend. Former Husker. It's still a Husker. He's just somewhere else.
But coach, here's where we are. Ohio State has its place in the conference. Wisconsin,
Michigan, Nebraska, all looking up or at least trying to achieve what they've achieved
and take their place at the top of the conference on a regular basis.
You're the coach.
Take us in.
How do you make that happen?
Well, I was the same way when I came in.
So what I did when I talked to program over in 1990, you had to beat Ohio State in Michigan.
So I devised everything I did in the offseason and everything else, in a style of play.
I'm not going to beat them.
I'm not going to get as good players.
I don't have access to the players Ohio State has.
You've got good players in Ohio.
They have a reputation and their brand.
They can go all over the country and get the best players.
I can't do that in Wisconsin.
In my state, I'm going to get five to eight players a year.
So I got to go outside.
So how are you going to do it?
So I came up with a plan.
We've got to be bigger.
I've got to get linemen.
We've got to run the ball.
We've got to shorten the game.
We've got to hold on to football.
play field, play field position.
And we have good success against them.
Stiles make fights, right?
Yeah.
Also, I wanted to ask you, and I talk about this all the time,
how important is character to playing football not only in the Big Ten or period,
but especially at Wisconsin?
But it's not California, and it's not the glitz and glamour.
It's not sexy.
But you have to.
It is.
Hey, let me tell you.
You want to be in Madison, Wisconsin.
Really?
I'm telling you.
They have to, let me tell you.
When Nebraska goes, I ate more Bratworths up there and had more spot a cow than I had in two years.
And it was the best time ever.
Nebraska got beat off, ran off the field, but I had a great time in Madison.
That was a man.
Right.
Right.
Did it again, right?
But talk about character and how important it is to football.
And that's the separator that was.
hey, a kid from a five-star from Texas versus a four-star from Illinois,
and he goes to Wisconsin and takes off?
I called us, always called us a developmental program.
And I've had, there weren't stars back when I was recruiting,
but the highly recruited kids come in.
I didn't like them.
Or the players that hosted them didn't like them,
because I'd always go to them, I'd talk to them Sunday morning.
How'd they fit during the visit?
Did they fit in?
Will they be good here?
Did you like him?
You want him as a teammate?
They say no, whoop, I'm out.
We're not going to recruit him.
I'm not going to offer a scholarship.
We wanted people.
You know, and I went into every home.
I knew who I was recruiting, what I was recruiting.
I wanted good characters.
I wanted guys that you want to be next to, guys that you trust.
And that's part of our program.
That's who we were.
And I think Paul's done that.
Brett did it when he was there with me.
Yeah.
So that's just part of the deal.
Coach Devaney, he was unique.
He was really, Bob Devaney was ahead of his time in how he practiced.
He had coaches that could go out and recruit.
You know, he was recruiting nationally.
Back then, when I played, I didn't even realize this.
I'm sitting here with four brothers.
Right, right.
Right.
Okay.
We played Alabama two years in a row for the national championship.
They didn't have, they were still, they hadn't integrated yet.
Yeah.
I didn't even know that.
Right.
I'm driving home with a car full of brothers.
Harry Wilson had the car.
It was his car and Tony Jeter.
I'm driving back home.
We're going back and forth, you know, and I just thought that was part of the deal.
Yeah.
Right.
So we integrated in Nebraska when a lot of people weren't.
Uh-huh.
You know, Michigan State started.
The head coach there, that's where Coach Devaney started.
They brought some guys up.
They'd send some guys from the south.
They'd come up there, and they integrated early.
And Nebraska was open-minded.
And we were integrated, and that had a lot to do with it.
Yeah.
But he was a hell of a coach.
Now, the way we practiced, and he even put up with any nonsense,
And we were physical.
I mean, we were really physical.
One of the things, coach, for me, like, you know, I'm obviously all the football guys.
I played basketball, and I played in Milwaukee.
And I'm very with the bucks, and I'm very familiar with the weather.
And with you guys, how did you, in your time, get over that hump of getting them to come if they came from a southern state or if they came, like, how did you get them,
to buy-ins because it's brick up there in the Milwaukee in the winter.
So how did you get them to understand that?
I just told them, you know, you got a couple months.
I said, you know, you go through football season.
You've got two weeks where it's going to be chilly.
Yeah.
But everybody else in the league is.
He's doing the same thing.
Yeah, it's a couple weeks.
And I said, then you've got a couple weeks to make it to Thanksgiving.
You get, you get a break.
Then we go to a bowl game.
It's warm.
And then it's a semester break.
You go home for three weeks.
You come back, you tough out one more week.
Then it's spring.
That's nice.
Yes, sir.
Then you got the lakes and you got all that stuff.
So I just didn't make a big deal out of it.
I didn't make a big deal out of it.
And I didn't recruit many kids out of the school.
Also, if they have after-
I'm going to tell you something.
If we recruited like they do now and you could bring them in in June,
if I can bring kids in Madison in June,
I'd be a hell of a lot better recruiter than I was back then.
Yeah, we're smarter about it.
Coach, first of all, thank you for sitting down with us.
I appreciate it, Coach.
This is exceptional.
Before we let you go, I got to ask, if you could get in the ear of Scott Tross with a husker blood that beats in you,
what would you whisper to him to help guide him?
That's really a good question.
I follow them.
I think they're really close.
You got to play better defense, special teams.
You got to nail it.
Right.
Right.
You can't.
You got a defensive event.
Hey, he said, get him out of here.
You got a defensive end on the edge who's giving you the thought.
I think he's doing a great job.
We got to get the Atlantic director squared away.
We got to get him set down.
We got to get him set down.
Treve albers basically telling Coach Albrez, get out of here.
Coach, how long are you, how long are you going to be here today?
I'm here.
I'm on, I'm on the podium tomorrow.
Okay.
So can we take a break, switch chairs, and then bring you back after we get this defensive in.
You're going to cut me off.
off and get Trev in you?
No, no.
I have seniority.
I got seniority.
You have seniority.
Everybody in the room.
Listen, this is a picture we have to take.
This is a picture we have to take.
Trev Edwards will be next.
We'll have Scott's audio.
Coach Alvarez, you are a legend.
Thank you for what you do.
We're going to bring you back.
We're going to beg you to come back later today.
Stay tuned.
Husker, it's Trevor Roberts next.
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