1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - Barry Thompson (Fairfax Football Academy HC): February 10th, 10am

Episode Date: February 10, 2022

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It's time to go one-on-one with D.P. Coming at you live from the Coppull Chevrolet GMC Studios, here is your host, Derek Pearson, presented by Beatrice Bakery, on 93-7 The Ticket and the Ticket FM.com. All right, everybody, one-on-one, lots to cover. Rico, we finally got a winner for the second part of the trivia, Super Bowl Square. Who was it? That we did.

It was Corey in Lincoln, the leading rusher in whatever Super Bowl that was in 1988, was Icky Woods. Rikki Woods. Not Roger Craig. He had, Icky had 79 yards rushing. Roger Craig had 71. Craig had 101 yards receive it. Yes.

And he is still mad at Jerry Rice for stealing his MVP. I would be too. Actually, no, that was Montana's. Montana had 300 plus throwing. Yeah, that was Montana. That was Montana's.

Yeah, that was Montana's MVP. A couple of things before we get to BT. You can join us Friday to Sunday at the Home and Garden Center at Lancaster Event Center. We're teaming up with Culligan of Lincoln. We want to thank those folks for sponsoring this thing. Come say hi to us and some Husker athletes who are going to stop by, take pictures, get autographs.

Friday from 1 to 9, Saturday from 10 a.m. to 8 p.m. We'll do a couple of shows from there. As a matter of fact, Friday, 6 o'clock. The Priscilla Joseph show will be there. RICO will be there. Broadcasting live from there. Job well done. Saturday, the postgame show will be done from there. Sunday. Just a ton of folks are going to be there. Athletes are going to be there as well. The admission is $8. You get a dollar off if you bring non-perishable and not expired food product for the Food Bank of Lincoln. And then, of course, Sunday, after 3 o'clock, when we're done, we're going to pick up, head straight over the Super Bowl party at Buffalo Wings and Rings, 68th and 0, stop by a great food drink, and lots of free prizes,

all for the Super Bowl on Sunday. 402, 464-5-6-85, start a hymn text line, Honda Lincoln Hotline, you can hit us up. Do so, hit me with a what's-up DP. Hit me hit Rico with a what's-up. Rico, what's up, Coach Thompson, and we'll answer your questions and get all that stuff. done. Rico, do you have this man's? We must set the tone. We must prepare. We have to set the tone.

The standard has been set. The only way to bring him in. The autumn wind is a pirate. Blustering in from sea with a rollicking song he sweeps along, swaggering boisterously. His face is weather-beaten. He wears a hooded sash with a silver hat about his head and a bristling black mustache. He growls as he storms the country, a villain big and bold. And the trees all shake and quiver and quake as he robs them of their gold. The autumn wind is a raider pillaging just for fun. He'll knock you round and upside down.

laugh when he's conquered and won. There we go. Let's bring him in. You can't bring him until you hear the bass drums. You can't. Let's bring in. QB coach, Barry Thompson, BT. What's happening, man?

What's up, man? I understand you guys talking a little QV stuff this morning. He heard the tail end of you and Jay getting after it. And before we get started, I had a little shout out to G-Town. I know it was Nebraska radio, but it had to get a short of. shout out to the real coach T out there. What's he? What's he?

Oh, sport the G. Give me the G, baby. Hey, listen, they just had the number one ranked player in the draft on campus. What? He appears to be a young man that is seriously considering. He's down to Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, and Georgetown. He's visit Arizona State. state. You know, with baseball players, they have that high money. It's rarely that they would

forego the money. But I think things are changing a little bit. And this guy seems to be a guy seriously contemplating it. And it's a big move for Georgetown to get a player that caliber on campus. Just to get him on campus. Yeah, yeah. That is. Happened Saturday. And for folks who don't know, Bear's brother, Edwin Thompson is the head baseball coach of Georgetown. And I need to call him and tell him, I give him my sizes as they order their seasonal apparel. I just have to make sure that he has the right size. I do not want him to air

like, you know, I'm proactive and I do not want... I call him right after we're done. Yeah, you know, said Edwin, sir, like I understand you're big time now. Like, you know, it's big time but he's got the G. And let him know Jay Foreman is a Hoyas fanatic.

So... Yes, he really. Okay, we'll hook Jay up to him. Yeah, he's a Hoyer fanatic. So there's that. So some of what we were talking about was the pipeline from youth sports to high school sports to college. Right. And in some of the places that I've been, the best programs, the best communities for creating, developing, uh, and extending the careers of, of our young people is a connection

between the, the local university. So I watched Utah and BYU, filter down to the high schools, not only with former players, but players that knew the system that they were running and who could identify talent, managed talent, direct talent to them once their high school careers were over. And the best way to get high school players

who were familiar with the systems in play was to make sure that the youth groups under them, directly under them and around them, were connected and consistent in what they ran. Right. For you, you end up seeing quarterbacks from several systems, several school systems, several Little League systems.

Is there a way to make this pipeline work? Yeah, it's funny because I heard Jay talking about, is it Eden? Yeah, he was talking to Minnesota. Yep. Right. And then you've aligned that. I think so. If you're talking about quarterbacks, yes.

it's a long-term development, so it's consistency over time. And then what I try to do is just to make sure they're fully equipped. So I know if they're in a wingtie system, they're going to be doing rollouts and throwing waggle and throwing flood and corner routes. I know if they're in a spread concept, there's certain types of things that you're going to be doing.

I know if they're a run-heavy team that they need to know their footwork and things like that. And if they're a team that's going to pass the ball, there are certain things that they're going to have to be able to do with the ball. All of it comes down to accuracy, and I kind of treat them all the same. So those things that I just mentioned, I don't siphon those off just for the guys that are winged. My assumption is that the offensive coordinator and assistant could change at any time. So what I try to do is just to make sure that the quarterback that I'm working with is as well-rounded as possible

so that when a coach asks him to do something, that he'll be able to do it. As far as running a consistent system, I certainly have heard of that. I've never been a part of it. Even when we were coached back in Woodson, they were running something at the varsity, which was different than what we thought

was good for the young people that we had, but as we promised, they would be able to do those things when they got up there. I think that's the more important piece. We just don't have those continuous. model here. As far as quarterback development goes, the best I've heard is coach Dodge, Todd, Dodge, I think it is down in South Lakes, Carroll South Lakes. They had a system where they would direct each of their high school or middle schools to play four quarterbacks. If they're middle

school playing four. And then by the time that they got to the ninth grade level, they would kind of cut the four down to three and then finally down to two. So that, That makes sense if you're looking at quarterback development. I think quarterbacks get cut off too early because their development takes a while. And then, you know, what do you teach in them? But the simplicity, I heard Jay talk about that. He says they're still running, I think red or he used to color green. Red, orange, you know.

Right. Well, around here, one of the most consistently successful coaches I've been around, as coach for Vanek. And he's inside zone. So he still runs Twins Queen and. you know, Khan King and those are his formations, and he runs 42, you know, and you can get with any of his players that's been on sideline with them, and they can have similar jokes about his pacing and things like that. But, yeah, they have a simple kind of point of which they're teaching some fundamental part of the game. And at the high school level, you have to be able to win a game regardless of the talent that you have.

And so he kind of starts from that premise. When you start from that, and then you make sure that it's easily expandable, you can accommodate the additional athletes that come along while you still winning football games. It's always, I have to remove myself from the high school sphere of thinking when it comes to college coaches, college programs, and urgency. Now, as high school coaches, you don't get to recruit. You don't go, well, in most cases, don't get recruit. and you don't really get to control the talent that's in your space.

Usually it's by zoning and in-districting. And you have, look, you've got to get it done no matter whether you have talent or not, right? Yes, that's correct. People talk about, well, you're having to do it year by year. There's no consistency because the players aren't there. But the essence of high school is that the players aren't going to be, there for long. You get them. They're never going to be. Right? They're not going to be there. So you learn what things work for you. How to identify talent specific to that year's team. The program is the

standard for culture and how business is done. But from a coaching and from a player standpoint, that player knows he's got literally 10 games, maybe 15 if he's lucky, to build his brand and his resume. So he's got to get to work right away. And coaches, listen, you have two bad turns as a high school coach. Look, man, you're going back to the science lab or going back to PE. You're not like this thing. Right. No, you're exactly right. You're exactly right. And so it'd be interesting, you know, Jay's coach that you talked about in Minnesota, if I put for any of any other. I'm sure they would have a similar approach. You know, they start with how am I going to win a

high school football game and how am I going to win a high school football game if I don't have a quarterback? That's where they start. how does this whole thing have to operate and then what can I get kids to do and then you start thinking outward so within his system his system there's a way of moving people around and it doesn't change the structure and so when you look at it you say okay that's that's what he had that guy when this guy shows up I know exactly what position he's going in that's real important when you move to college um I think the urgency thing in the fact that the development is kind of gone out the window except for maybe schools like Wake Forest.

Famously has gone a development model and done fairly well with it, not, you know, national championship level. But when that urgency comes in, there are very few good decisions that are made in a hurry. And I've referenced this book a couple of times ago I just went back and read the prologue of modern QB. and he cites a draft a class of quarterbacks in 2010. There were 31 that were rated four and five stars. And the attrition rate of those quarterbacks was so high. And he talked about drafts, the 20 drafts or 40 drafts before 2013,

like how few quarterbacks had hit, right, and actually gone to Super Bowl. When that urgency enters into the equation, things do get missed. And so then you wind up with Tony Romo. You wind up with Drew Brees. You wind up with Russell Wilson. You wind up with, you know, Cam Newton.

I say him because he was thrown on the trash heap at one time. I forget his descent, his uscent was not ordained. You know, Tom Brady gets missed. So that's what happens with the urgency. You just miss because you don't, I don't think that they're always tuned in exactly what they're looking for. Well, and sometimes coaching, people are getting credit for coaching when they're a part of a talent pool that dictates that they, that they, that they,

or assist in that there's a difference between you being a great manager of talent and you being a great developer of talent. Those, all of those people are needed at all levels. Why are we missing that you need? The development PCP is so under value. right now. In social media, I know that what I do is good and I know because I can see results. I can see players playing. I can see them. I know they're going to college. You know, two points are that their coaches, least in our area. There are some who are so,

I don't know what the right word is, but they just like, they just put everybody who does what I do into a category. And what they do is they miss the guys like myself who actually take a guy from point A and bring him to point B. I've got a three-sport guy now, three-sport athlete, you know, four-something GPA. He's going to go to Carleton. Speaking of Minnesota, it's going to go to Carlton, which is one of the top liberal art schools in the country.

And in ninth grade, he physically couldn't throw a football. So, you know, imagine if he, you know, he hadn't come to me. They would have moved this guy to some other position. He would have played it. But the upshot is in a program that didn't win a game as freshman year, they went 500, I think, in his senior year. He said all kinds of passing records.

And now this program that was lowly has now kind of turned around, has hopes of springboarding in the future. And they have two more quarterbacks that work with me that are coming behind. And the coach has switched to a passing game, right? because of that guy. But at ninth grade, if he hadn't come to me or somebody else, the coaches would look at him and says, oh, we'll make your tackle or we'll make you, you know what I'm saying?

Yep. And the guy that's come behind him, and youth ball was a center. They had him a center just because he was a big kid. But he on his own set, I said, I say, hey, I want to learn this quarterback thing. And then he shows up at the high school, kind of ready. And they go, oh, we like you, right? Whereas if he had gone on it. So that development piece, it gets missed.

It's important. It used to be what our middle school football sports programs used to do. There used to be guys there and you get a chance to develop and kind of connect up and they would learn the high school. I just don't know that goes on all over the place. Yeah, I'm trying to wrap. I'm talking to Barry Thompson, Fairfax Football Academy, of course. Barry is my high school quarterback, lifetime friend, my brother from another mother with several other brothers. but more than anything else,

Barry helps me organize sports and life thoughts probably better than anybody on the planet. And he's a sounding board for me because it's like, well, Barry, this doesn't make sense to me, help me out. And usually if it doesn't make sense to me, it doesn't make sense to Barry either. So it kind of helps me understand this. In a place, in the place that Nebraska is currently, right?

You've been in that situation as an offense coordinator, quarterback's coach, passing him coordinator, to walk in good programs and bad. Right. To help redirect them, fix them, complete them, elevate them, all of those things being true. For Mark Whipple, for Mickey Joseph in this space,

when they bring in their ideas and knowledge and such, there's always the issue of a head coach who is the head guy and who has his belief system in place. How do you coordinate those things to work? What's going to be Nebraska's bridge to success in making sure that Mark Whipple and Mickey Joseph and Scott Frost get on the same page to accomplish the same things they're trying to accomplish?

I'm not worried about Mickey and Whipple. You watch some of the past concepts that they ran down at LSU, especially that boundary flood concept, I hope Mickey brings that with them. You know, those are offensive minds getting together. It's the control thing. We mentioned this a couple different times.

Hopefully the three of those guys have sat down and they've articulated exactly what it is, what each of their roles will be. And that the only thing that they have to do is just remind each other when a boundary is being crossed. Hopefully that was done up front. Hopefully that was done. If it wasn't done clearly and it's not consistent by any of these people,

then there is going to be conflict. And the thing about football, you don't have to know much. You can easily tell when it's not right. You know, just from whatever reason, like sometimes you hit the field, you hit a practice field, and it looks and it feels a certain way. And you go, man, there's a lot of good stuff going on here, right? You may not know talent or anything stuff, but you can tell it's organized and it's cool.

clear and everything's moving in the right direction. So hopefully when they get out, start turning out to the spring ball and you start seeing them getting outside a little bit more, hopefully it looks a little bit different than what it did before. It should make sense is the bottom line. It should make sense. It should be understandable. We hope.

Football is not really complicated. Yeah, we hope it makes sense. We hope it looks. Right? Like we hope. Look, because now, and there's been a lot of discussion over, well, Nebraska had talent in the receiver, in the receiving room, right? We knew Manning and Betts, right, Oliver Martin, those guys.

And now you've added several guys who, in theory, know the systems of the new coordinators, know the responsibilities, know the workload. Right. But you've done this as well. You've been at programs, powerhouse programs, that when you walked in the room, there were existing pieces of talent,

but the new talent that was there also had their eyes wide open because they had a new opportunity to reset themselves in the space. How do you handle that? Yeah, well, hopefully that happens. I mean, that's good. In a situation where you're not winning, there are two big things that I think are really important. I call it alignment.

We're talking around this, But this idea that everybody in the program, even the person that empties the trash cans at night, from the secretaries, whoever's in those offices, that everybody in that program is pulling that rope in the same direction and at the same time. Right. So that's, you want that done. That in itself will make some people uncomfortable. They'll want to drift away. So that action alone makes everything better. then the next thing you want to see is competition you want people competing the best the quickest way

to a player's heart and head is through his butt if they're threatening to sit down yeah and they have to sit down it just gets to them if they're really players so that alignment thing gets rid of some toxicity it's in the program that gets you going the right direction the next thing is you want to see competition so hopefully some of the guys who stay they do reset and say, hey, the marching orders are clear now. Now I know why I'm working so hard. And now I know the path for me to get to what I want. Yeah, and they know the work is happening, bro.

These dudes are coming. Hey, B, T, I peaked, man. What are we eating today? What do we make? You did peek. Oh, bro, you got me today, man. This dish, every culture, I think, has a version of pork and beans, except our and not i know there's people out there who love pork and beans but uh the

brazilians they they're up here there's a dish called fechwada it's f e i j o a d a if you look at it you don't speak portuguese it'll mess you up but it's called fechwada and it's a national dish kind of a brazil traditionally eaten on wednesday and saturdays um that's meat with a whole lot of meat in. Beans with a whole lot of meat in. It soaked the beans overnight. There's some salted meats. It can be used something called corniceca.

You can use hamhawks. Those things are soaked to get the salt out of them. The beans start to cook. You put in some basil. You put in some, I used pork sausage called Linguica. Another pork sausage. A thick slab. Bacon is used to flavor this thing.

It cooks. You take some onions. some garlic and that thick slab bacon. You cook that down. That becomes a flavoring agent in it. You cook some rice with it. There's some, I think, called a Brazilian vinaigrette. It looks like salsa, but it doesn't have any heat in it.

It's just onions, tomatoes, green peppers, little parsley, little white wine vinegar, olive oil, salt and pepper. There's another dish called forofa, which is this cassava flour that's toasted. And what you do with that is you take, again, some bacon and some onions and some garlic, you cook it down, you put the toasted cassava flour on it and it just stir it up. You may add a couple of fats of butter to it. That makes the ferrofa. So you have the beans with the meat and the rice and the faropa, and then you've got to mess up some greens.

I parbole those and then when you're ready to cook, again, olive oil or the garlic, salt and pepper, just put them on the side. And then it sounds strange, but slices of orange. You'll see it on the plate. It really goes well with all that stuff. And some people cook the face water with a little bit of orange in it. A thousand different recipes out there for it. Makes feeds a whole lot of people. It would be a perfect Super Bowl dish.

So if there's anybody out there, try it. It's not that hard. So can beans. So can meat. Put them together. Follow the recipe. the only thing I would recommend is you may have to find some substitute

do not substitute beef jerky for the carnage sick I'd skip the carnage sick but other than that feeds a ton of people I've still got something left D.P. if you want to come over I'm working on there's some reunion stuff happening so I'm working on

get back to D.C. For some of these high school reunions that I'm going to be out I may be out in Indiana the combine there probably the end of the month, first of March, I'll keep you posted. Might be out there for the basketball tournament as well,

right about the same time. Okay, all right. Yeah, NFL combat. All right, yeah. March 1st. Well, no, this is pre-combat. It's one of the small school combine. Okay.

I'll keep you put it. Yeah, we might be there. Do me a favor. Take the video of you making your dish. Tag 93-7 the ticket, tag me in it. So we can show folks the actual work. Good stuff. Fee too. Put it on Twitter or?

Yeah, put it on Twitter. Yeah, they need to see this, bro. All right, I will. All right, man. Love you. All right. Love you too. Bye-bye. That's Barry Thompson. Football coach. Quarterback coach, all around good dude. Forward to break. Come back. Want to talk about a ticket weeknights. Here's another good one.

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