1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - Barry Thompson (Fairfax Football Academy): June 2nd, 10am
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Coach, Barry Thompson, BT.
What's happening, Beth?
D.P. Are you with me?
How you doing?
Are you with me?
Are you?
Yeah.
We got to get that Kurt Franklin clip.
D.P.
Yeah.
It's funny.
I heard you talk in old school jerseys.
I want to bring back the 1980s shoulder pad.
I want to bring back the single bar face mat.
Yes, sir.
And I want to bring back Johnny United's high top black leather shoe.
Let's work.
into the mix.
Yeah,
yeah,
those need to be,
but that also means
you have to bring
back the old-fashioned
coaches shorts.
Oh,
well,
wait a second.
Must not get crazy.
Think of the fans.
No,
that's who I'm thinking of.
By the way,
you're talking about
them big drawers,
you know the fat-bound girls
make the world go around.
Hey, man,
that's why they make songs.
Big drawers flopping in the wind.
This is why we make,
this is why they make songs about it.
That's why they make.
make songs of Barry.
This is a statement of fact.
We've been in some shady hotels that they assign for teams and you just go,
why don't you love us?
Like, why?
Birth of,
butt, boogie, come on, man.
Puttiba butt.
Come on.
The sisters.
Betty.
Yeah.
Betty.
Bathsheba.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah.
Bertha Betty and Bathsheba.
Yeah.
Jimmy Castro bunch.
There we go.
I'm giving that to Rico.
Jimmy Casterbunch.
You had to go watch the, listen to the Birth of Bud Boogie.
You don't know the song?
I think you need to find it.
You got to learn.
Jimmy Castabunch used to do so many of those funny songs.
Yeah, remember there was a period of time.
It seemed like that was a popular form for Top 40 Radio.
There was Ray Price.
Did he do the streak?
Yeah.
Remember everybody was streaking, he did that.
And then Charlie Daniels did kind of a set satirical song, the Long Hair Country Boy.
Yep.
Right, leave that long hair.
And then there was an older one, Hot Rod Lincoln.
I forget he did that, but you don't go.
But there was kind of a funny kind of, almost a rap kind of, if you think about it.
Well, that was when the double Dutch bus came through.
Yeah, yeah.
Turn that up, man.
There we go.
Turn it up.
And the worst video ever made.
The party was jumping when Bertha got off a huss stump.
The whistles were blowing and everybody did the bump.
But all Breastle Buck Boogie.
Yes, sir.
Hit him, Barry.
No question.
Yeah.
And then remember, Controfighting.
Yes.
Yes.
Disco duck.
Disco duck.
Yeah, Disco Duck was that.
think Disco Duck actually hit number one.
Yeah, yeah. If you look it up, Rick D's and Disco Duck.
Yeah, just a DJ from L.A.
Who put the song together and then went on tour and became an international star.
Speaking of tour, remember Steve Martin, King Tut?
King Tut.
He would actually play arenas.
Yeah.
I mean, people missed that.
Like, he would get there with his banjo.
And he was exceptional with it.
Yeah.
The King Tutts song, like, I mean, Saturday Night Live, he hosted Saturday Night Live and was the musical guest and then broke it to, you know, King Tut.
Right. And to help some of the listeners out, there was a big tour.
And it was kind of a satirical response because the King Tut remains, at one time, was a big find.
And the tour, the artistic tour, the artifact tour of it came to the United States.
and people were going crazy over this exhibit
and then of course
smart satirical people kind of go the other way
and then he made a song of it
kind of making fun of it
and then there's course short people
which nobody can play now Randy Newman
short people right
everybody would blow a lid if they
like I was singing the lyrics to short people
to a couple kids and they're like
you can't say that I'm like
they did say it and it was a hit
everybody
There were tons of songs that from back in the tons of movies.
Somebody they were talking about anything Mel Brooks wouldn't be makeable.
Well, go back to Chuck Berry, my dingling.
You were saying about my dingling, everybody was cool with it.
Yeah.
Well, that was rock and roll.
Turtle Creek.
Man, those snappers all around my beak.
Right.
There's all the things that you couldn't.
I mean, that's just what it is.
And we adapt.
But, yeah, but it's our job as the old heads to kind of, you know,
just throw those up in the air every now and then and remind folks of what it was.
It was, I got the chance to talk to some, some, some, some, some, some,
huskers yesterday. And I think there, there's a, a change in, in, in, in, and flow for
understanding for these young, young, young, young athletes that they're now starting to
understand that there's the physical part of all season, which is getting stronger, faster,
etc. But I think
momentum
is gaining in that they're recognizing
that they could
make up the most distance
in film study.
You've been listening
you are listening to my workout again.
You really are.
Yes.
It is the little part
of the game. I always
use this analogy. I remember
when I was coming from school,
I was pretty good in school.
And in math, there came a certain point where you had to start doing things with the properties of division and multiplication and use them in other forms.
And there was a period of time where I had missed some kind of – I forget exactly, but it was clear that I had missed.
It was something foundational I should have known.
And I had to go back, and once I found it, right, it unlocked everything for me.
And I think a lot of players nowadays are like that.
They have so much of the structure.
They work really hard, and they can do this and do that.
But sometimes they're missing the subtlety of a detail.
For instance, today, we were on the field.
And I had older quarterback.
So these are young guys in college, second year college, head in the college.
And I was telling them to, as they drop back, to put their eye,
eyes one spot, like for the first three steps of a five-step drop, and then on four or five,
they would put their eyes on the target.
Now, I started to explain to them why, like, why would we be throwing this path off of this move?
And they looked at me, they were stumped.
I said, well, the only we would be thrown this particular one is if we had middle field
closed, we were going to get pressure, and that linebacker that we're looking at through three
is going to tell us everything.
If he moves over, right, then we know we don't have it.
If he comes, then we know we really have it.
So either way, we need to look at it.
And they were kind of hesitant about this staring thing.
And I said to him, look, there's only two major ways to pass to football.
One is pure progression.
You go one, two, three, and one's open, you throw, two's open,
two's open, throw it, or you're putting somebody in conflict.
That's it.
no matter how you do it, there's somebody that's in a bind.
And you have to understand to get your eyes on that person.
That person will tell you whether it's okay to throw the ball or not.
And staring at him is not a bad thing.
Right.
Let him know you're coming.
Right.
If you stare at him and he thinks that you're going to that direction,
the more that he goes to the direction that you're not going to,
the more wrong he is.
Right?
And so it's just, and you could see these light bulbs go off.
in their face.
And I go, you learned a little bit of football today.
And they go, yeah.
And so you're right.
Yes.
Digging into the tape, understanding, you get all kinds of epiphanies when you look at tape
and you start to understand it more.
Sometimes it can be, hey, I only have 111 to do.
Like, I remember when I played golf, that was a big epiphany for me.
Strange as it may sound, I was looking at film, looking at film, looking at film.
You said, you know what?
I only have to worry about my wife.
11. And once I understood, I only had to worry about my 11th at the start of the play,
and that my 11th would tell me everything I needed to know what was to come next.
Man, game got really easy, really easy. So yes, you've been listening in again.
Well, Barry, talking to these young guys, and this is from a defensive standpoint, right?
So, and I, I've, I've done, the bulk of my work have been from the offensive side and attack.
but how when I had to go over to defense to coach,
the advantage that it gave me is that I knew how I would attack me.
Right.
Right.
And to have defensive players look at film and say,
from your responsibility, what is your biggest threat?
So what thing are you taking away?
And then what's your biggest threat?
And for linebackers and defensive backs,
you often say, what is the biggest,
what is the route that you cannot allow?
What is the thing you're going to take away first?
Because that's how the offensive coordinator thinks.
Yeah.
Where are they weak?
Yes.
So in a short form,
defensive players do what I do
and what I encourage my offensive players to
is they should study offense, right?
And it makes sense that offensive players would study defense.
Most of their off-season studying defenses
and understanding that defensive players should, in a short form, look at offenses,
understand what these formation means, what they're trying to do out of them, those types of things.
In that sense, it will help them better understand, excuse me,
why I've coordinated what put them in a certain position.
But, yes, when you're talking about threats, right, I take it from a defensive back standpoint, right?
So not a linebacker, lineback, but I played defensive back in college.
So I knew that when I lined up with a certain leverage,
there was a certain route that I wasn't given up.
So if I lined up inside leverage, you're not getting inside.
You can have the outside, but you're not getting inside leverage on it.
You're not going to win that route.
And I would have to discipline myself.
The other thing, for a defensive back standpoint, another epistem was when you look at the route tree.
And when the play starts, there's all these routes that are available to the guy,
say it's one-on-one, all these routes that are available.
right but as that receiver starts to move down the field
routes get eliminated right when he gets to about the 10 or 12 yard mark
we're down to a handful of rounds that's it that's all it's left right
you can go straight he can go left and go right so that's another way of kind of
understanding right and being able to play and to be relaxed
the other thing I think with defensive players is really important
if he's not only their alignment I think it's kind of what you're talking about
talking about it gets your eyes on the right thing like the thing that's going to that
that that's going to tell you what to do right the thing and go back to my example 111 when I
understood that all of this stuff I had one key that I had to look at and I understood
that that key would tell me whether it was really simple whether it was run or whether
it's passed like I had to understand that first if
If it was past, then my leverage and what you were talking about, my threat took over, right?
I had to have that information going in.
But it was really that singular focus on getting my eyes in the right spot so that I could react the right way when the ball was snapped.
And it's really that simple.
It's not easy, but it is that simple.
It's the thing that there's a defensive mantra that a lot of coaches will use in telling idle minds,
make bad decisions.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because then it goes to
don't go looking for business.
Business is coming.
Yes.
Yeah.
Break that down for folks.
Well, a large part of offense is getting you,
you're in a place.
A large part of office is getting you to move out of that place
and need to put the receiver where you were.
Yeah.
Think about the concept of,
what we were working on the step.
Think about the concept of curl flat.
So for the listeners out there,
let's say we've got two receivers to our left.
And the furthest one out in football terms,
they call that, they count for the slot line.
It's the number one receiver,
the next one in,
moving towards you as the quarterback would be number two.
So the number one receiver is going to go 10 to 12 yards,
12 yards, and he's going to run a curl.
The number two receiver, you know,
whatever depth you want,
five, seven,
eight,
he's going to run an out.
Now,
we know that the corner
that's over top
of the number one receiver,
unless it's covered two,
he has some type of deep responsibility.
So he has to get vertical
with that curl.
Now, the underneath the fender,
the guy that is
responsible for the area
underneath, either the flat
or getting underneath the curl,
right?
So he's the guy that's in a bond, right?
And so that's the most basic example.
I'm going to put him, I'm going to throw opposite of where he's going.
Whatever he shows you, whatever he goes, right?
He's there.
Now, how would he play that?
Well, the way that he plays is he slow plays the curl.
Because of the two patterns, he would rather.
give up the out than the deeper curl.
He can rally to the out. He can be late to the
out because that's running
toward the sidelines. So now he picks up
a guy to help him, right?
And so that's that concept. It looks
like he's in a no-win situation, but defensively,
if he slow plays the curl
and he keeps getting depth, he'll have a break
angle to break right onto the out.
So he can screw up the quarterback
and force the quarterback into
the lesser of the two when he's in a bad
situation. So it's a great example of, hey, don't just fly out of there, get depth, right, play
through your window, ball comes, rally to it, and go. And then on the field, you'll see just the
opposite. He'll see the guy who goes flying out of there, curls wide open, the guy busts up
the seam, you know, because the corner's behind him. But that's a great example, right? Where he knows
he's in conflict, but if he just slows himself down, if he's patient, he'll win that situation.
even though the quarterback can get a completion.
Yeah.
So, I mean, and it's a lot of this is risk award.
What's the greater risk?
What's the greater reward?
That, yeah, nobody wants to get beat deeper than.
Right.
And then who is going to get beat him deeper than?
Because I can run down a tight end.
I can't outrun that one receiver out on the edge by himself.
Yes.
And then it goes with philosophy, too, right?
So if you're, if the defensive philosophy is, hey, we're playing a team and we know they're going to complete passes,
then you're deciding which passes do we want them to complete.
And the reason that you'd want them to complete the out versus the curl is because probably if you rally to it,
you got, and the defensive end is peeling and running, right?
He's rushing, right?
The ball's up and he retraces and he's hustling too, that you rally to it,
that you're forcing them to execute more play.
And the more that you force people to prosecute their offense,
the more likely it is that they're going to make a mistake.
You, of course, want to stop them, right?
But it's short of sacking the quarterback or the guy throwing an interception.
If you're dealing with those set of facts, let's make him play football, right?
That's where you are.
You got to remember, in defensive players, you remember, too,
they're really outnumbered every play.
They really are.
And so they're lined up a specific way based on formation.
Now, that's where linebackers have to come in.
Linebackers have to really understand what formations and motion mean.
That's where the intelligence of your defense comes in.
If I can understand that every time they're two-by-two and they motion,
I know exactly what they're doing, okay, I can go play football.
You may catch it on me, but as Ray Lewis says, there's going to be a consequence.
There's going to be a consequence.
I know what you're doing.
You know I know what you're doing.
But if you get the ball to him, he's going to pet.
That's the way it rocks.
But you've got to study and understand that, right?
You know, the front line guys, they're down, you know, steps, double teams,
fighting off defending gaps.
Those backers that underneath them, right, how they're handling things,
their recognition of what these fronts and these formation needs is everything.
the secondary guys, right?
Now you're moving back to, hey, I'm just playing run past, right?
And then once it's one of the other, I'm doing everything I can, I'm doing it the right way.
When you get into the secondary, like to the safety, you know, they say the, when the linemen turns around and she's a linebacker, when the linebacker turns around and she's safety, when safety turns around it's being six points.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
Right.
So the three levels of your defense, if they're working in harmony and everybody's handling their 1-11,
And they run to the ball and tackle.
You know, you've got a defense that's pretty tough to beat,
along with this patient feet, right?
And the patient feet comes from,
I know exactly what's going on.
Right?
And to bring it back to what I was saying today with the quarterbacks,
once I was describing these combinations to them, right,
and why we would be throwing.
Like, it's just a really simple thing.
A dig-wip combinations,
old country cover four, right?
So again, listeners, two receivers, let's go to your right this time.
The further south is the number one receiver.
He's running a dig.
The number two receiver is going in and a 45, and he's whipping back out to the sidewalk.
Some people call it pigtail, a squirrel, or whatever you want.
So what I was telling the quarterback is, hey, go back, put your eyes on that corner through five steps.
Make sure that that corner is taking the dick.
He's running vertical.
When you see him taking the dig and going vertical, you know there's nobody left on the sidewalk.
so then just reset your feet next week to keep the past as soon as they had that concept in their
hand it was boom boom boom boom boom boom right because they understood it they had a thing in
their mind and it's like oh okay you know this is why i would be throwing this i'd be throwing this
because the defenders telling me it's okay to throw it right they're giving it to you start playing
yeah you start playing football like that and you should see in the rest of the session you'd have been
proud of. Well, but it's the thing that I probably yelled at you the most in coaching situations
all the time. Barry's quarterback's, my receivers. I would yell this thing so much that Barry
probably never wants to hear it and he may have some PTSD when I say it right now. In those
situations, Barry Thompson, take the layup. Yeah. Take the layup. They're giving it, they're giving
you five yards. I'll take that.
And that's why you would have liked it because they were
executing it over and over again with great
location, great time, right?
But it came from the very thing that you're talking about.
It was a little nugget
as we're practicing on the field of like, we're not
out here just throwing the football around.
Right, we're playing football.
Right? So we're playing football. I'll give you another
quick example. I know a break coming on.
But I was just, you know, I cook up.
up these scenarios for them.
Not that I know their particular offenses,
but because I know the skill to execute the scenario
is something that they're going to have to use, right?
So we were running a, the scenario was single high safety.
We have a post from the left, and we have a dig from the right.
So the scenario was the safety was taking away the post.
So my instructions wore to them, and what some quarterbacks do,
if you have the post left, what they'll do is violently swing their head back to the right,
and they'll throw the dig in 90% of times it's behind the receiver.
So I said, here's the scenario.
We're looking at the, we're looking at the post,
and the safety takes it away.
What I want you to do is come down and check the mic.
See if Mike's there.
And in this scenario, when it comes down,
and for whatever reason, Mike isn't there,
then we're throwing the ball.
Right, so it's a perfume rhythm.
The dig comes across, right across the mic,
spot the ball's right in over and over and over again.
So then I said, okay, let's play football.
And they looked at me.
I said, okay, well, we all know when you run across the field,
you should run if it's man to tell him.
I said, now we're going to run into the dig.
We'll run what's called a hunt route.
So as the receiver's going up, he's eye and Mike.
And if he sees Mike drop back in the window,
what he's going to do is find Mike in, let's say it's Sam or Will.
It doesn't matter, right?
So now for the quarterback saying he would look at the post,
the safety was taken away.
You would come down, check Mike, and he would see Mike standing right there.
you reset and then find the receiver sitting in a window, right?
So all skills that they know so they can very quickly in about 2.2 seconds get through three,
you know, three progressions, right?
Right?
Three, well, two, two and a half.
But very calmly, and now we're playing football.
And the receivers are playing football too.
And those little things, those little nuggets for guys on the field are things that a lot of times
on a practice field that you just don't get enough time for.
So you either have to find it through.
the film or you get out there in the field yourself and you start working on it,
you know, walk it through, figure it out.
It's not that hard.
Yep.
And I'm noticing, again, one of the things that gives me some confidence in what's
happening locally is that I'm hearing the players talk more about understanding tendency.
And we'll talk about tendency when we come back and we will talk about 40 splits.
The difference between patterns.
past chasers, past rushers, and past throwers.
The 40 times matter.
We'll talk about that one.
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