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Oh, no, no, no, no, Barry.
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Barry.
Oh, no, no, no.
Yeah.
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You know. Oh, good
nice. So this is how we get
down. Yeah. You know,
let the folks know.
Where are you?
I am in Indianapolis,
Indiana. I've been here for a couple days. We're here for the
National Scouting Combine with Guy. And because of the way that
kind of went and the NFL Combine's starting up. So I extended my stay and
I'm going to try to, I may need to talk to you and Jay if there's a little
way to get a little help. But I'm going to go on over there and watch some of that.
Then I hit the road Friday and I'm back on the field.
Saturday morning training some
quarterbacks from the Big Ten.
Yeah, you're going to have a little bit more
swagger when you get back because
look, there's
the payoff.
Like, there's
the payoff that now
like to young cats,
young quarterbacks around,
they get to see
the end game because they've
worked out around and with
Guy Myers, right? They've been
around.
Yeah, it was funny.
Guy, just for your listeners, you know, being from a small school and kind of
of climb, I mean, there's a process where somebody kind of bubbles up and guy took a step
in that direction, the combine.
It was two days.
He did the testing and so forth, and he came back and did the throwing.
He did okay on the testing.
He learned a little bit about how to prepare for that.
But he really signed on the position work.
was one of the one chosen.
And what happened was
is that the scouts that were there,
were very excited about him.
I mean, not just looking at him.
They were calling back to home offices.
And it was really a good day for him.
So that starts that bubbling thing
where people are now talking about this guy
that it showed well.
And then there's another step, right?
We have some things coming up in April.
And there'll be some things that get generated from this.
So he's getting into a position
where he's getting closer,
having options. And like you said, I had to let the emotions kind of settle for a little bit.
Of course, I was happy for him. But when I got up this morning, I immediately started texting all
my other quarterbacks, exactly what he did. I said, here's what he did, be happy for him.
But I'm also texting you to let you know, keep being patiently impatient and dream big.
And then all the receivers that, you know, constantly come out. I let them know,
hey, he did really well. Thanks for help and getting
prepared. And so, yeah,
it takes a lot of people
to get it done. And yeah,
he was kind of
that pebble and the
pond and the ripples,
you know, went out yesterday. Yeah.
What helped him
step up? So what's
the process for
for quarterbacks out there and dads of
quarterbacks, moms of quarterbacks,
receivers of quarterbacks, right?
Who are here, who are trying to, you know what, you may
not be Nebraska's
starting quarterback,
but you can be a guy
who's out there putting at work
wherever you are. What are the
necessities? What are the things that
guy learned yesterday or that guy
brought to the table recognizing
in order to be at this level,
this is what has to happen? Right.
He really brought stuff to the table.
So let's skip the
three-hour show on
what it takes to get
through to say where Nella is.
No Walters.
Right?
Let's skip that.
And let's skip the two-hour show that the path that all of those guys and all my guys in college that are, that they're going to go through.
Right.
Because there's just a ton of stuff that they're going to go through.
All right.
So we're out the other side of that.
So what happens in that last leg of that, or I call it the second stage of the career.
You have youth high school, then you have college, the second stage in your career, is hopefully what you develop is grit.
and there's not another way from me to describe it,
that you develop,
Angela Duckworth did a book call,
I think she told Grit and she did a TED talk.
But that is the essence,
that that gets developed.
Because at that point,
once you have that,
then you can start to,
the world starts to open up to you.
So God had to
understand what it meant to be a professional,
like school's over,
but I'm getting up at 8 o'clock and I got to do this, I got to do this, I got to do this,
and I don't get home until 7 o'clock, right?
And then how we manage that schedule and to drive through it.
From a quarterback perspective, with these combines, you kind of, in a school sense,
you kind of teach to the test, right, because that's what you're going to be evaluated all.
So, you know, cleaning mechanics have to be clean.
You have to have a firm understanding how each ball is going to be thrown.
and then also an understanding of what types of balls are going to be thrown,
right, because there's requirements that they're testing all that things when they're evaluating.
I'll give you a simple thing.
If there's a bunch of right-handed quarterbacks out there,
I guarantee the guy who's running that drill is probably going to have you roll out to your left a lot,
right, because they're looking for what would distinguish you.
A guy that's really good.
It's going to throw good to both sides.
You'll assume you can throw well to your right side, right?
that's a strong side, but you're going to have a lot of rollout to your left, right?
Or they may start the passing on your left because some quarterbacks don't know the
subtle footwork to get themselves lined up, and you can start eliminating that.
So that's the expertise that you have to acquire, and then that daily work ethic and understand,
and it takes a good team.
You know, he landed or chose a great agent at G.
THG Sports, J-O, we call him John.
John had already walked people through this process, small school.
And he's got guys on NFL rosters and guys who got drafted in the USFL, so that was important
because he had a plan to how to get this done.
You have a team, either you're going to a facility or in our case, we already had a team kind of set up,
between me training and Josh O'Changeloan, you know, training him.
accelerate, and then he had to take care of his nutrition, and he has great support from his
family.
So it's all of that stuff.
It takes a lot.
And then, of course, the guys that came out, you know, the receivers that I would pull in,
they can come out to school.
And many of these guys, by the way, they were in track season, or they were, you know,
finishing up the basketball, you know, but they would still find a way to come out.
So it takes a lot.
It takes a lot.
It takes a lot. But it can be done.
It can be done.
Well, I mean, you know, and this is the thing, right?
So that for listeners who don't know or quarterbacks who don't understand
or dads or coaches who aren't necessarily coaching it,
give me the list of the throws that quarterbacks being evaluated
are going to need to make at a high volume at a high level.
Let's go through the throws.
Right.
So you definitely want to, so at the combine that we're at yesterday and the one that's coming up,
there's a very type of basic throws, right?
That's what they do.
That's their format.
So you may go somewhere else and there's a different format.
But in the main, in the main, you have to be kind of wake up and throw all these short and mid-range stuff.
So a slant you should never miss, a hitcher should never.
miss the 10-yard-out you should never miss it you know come back curl but that
has to be things you just don't miss on right when you go down field at the higher
levels there's different types of balls that you need to throw so you need to be
adverse or schools in those types of throws you know there's a bender you know
against a two against a cover two look right how do you get that past the lineback or
how do you locate it?
There are seven routes.
You know, you're thrown to tight in.
It's going to be a much flatter ball than, say,
if you had a slot or wide receiver that motioned in and he runs it.
Your deep balls, there are different types of deep balls.
The deep balls, sometimes you've got to smoke the dude.
You've got to put it with air out in front of them and let them keep winning,
right?
You don't want to slow them down.
The other deep ball is the defensive back has them covered.
you may be inside shoulder,
and then you've got to be able to move him,
stay from the top of the numbers to the bottom of the numbers,
so you're the classic kind of throwing them open.
Guy had two nice throws yesterday.
They were running overrout,
and the defender was underneath on the inside shoulder.
And sometimes the young quarterback will do
is they try to jam it or fit it in that tight little space
where the hands will be.
Well, guy on the fly just gave it enough little air
because in that position,
the receiver is actually winning, right?
He's actually winning if you throw him the right way.
And so he executed that.
So it's those types of things.
It's the accuracy and then your ability to manipulate the ball for the given situation that needs to be.
So it takes a lot.
Takes a lot.
A lot of work.
Do you get into the concepts of corner routes, fades, the back shoulder, do you get into that sort of stuff?
no not not in this not in these least the so understand what i'm doing my job is to look at these
combines and try to figure out okay or understand okay what did they do and then i'm looking at
those and then i'm literally teaching to the test right that so we go out where our thorny
team is those drills now we we want to keep the development going right because there's going
situation like he was chosen to throw one-on-one yesterday, right?
And so that's another whole thing, right?
You've got different type of receivers, defensive back, plane bump coverage, right?
And you don't know exactly.
I mean, they're not making up the route.
They're given the route to execute.
But that's a certain thing.
So one of the things that we're doing our prep is I do have high school receivers.
Then sometimes I'll get a college guy that's around or so forth.
And early on, guy says, you know, this guy thought to listen.
you've got to get to go to all kinds of guys.
On corner route, right?
I would tell them in a format like this,
I said the best thing that they could ever say to you is you're late.
I said, I don't need you guessing as to what high angle means to this guy you've never thrown before.
So one of the little things that we say, I said, just watch, go back,
watch the top of the helmet, the helmet will set the angle, then throw the ball.
You know, because it's, you know what I mean?
we're not playing a game, we're trying to complete a pass.
So there's little things like that that go into it.
You know, like we'll come up and run sevens,
and the receivers have a bunch of different questions,
and I'll say, no, just go ahead and run it, we'll figure it out.
So that's kind of how he practiced, and you did well on that yesterday.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, and then what's the volume of throws on a day like that?
Like, how do you prepare that?
How do you prepare?
I'd have to go back and count.
Like, I can give you some count.
Right.
Our warm up is, you know, we warm them up physically, and then we have three throws.
It's just a warm-up for you all my quarterbacks.
We call feet cement.
I'm not going to quit.
I just need to set it simple.
But we do three throws of that.
Then the receiver moves back to five.
We do three there.
That would be 10 yards and then three there.
So that's nine throws.
So we go that one gets set with the LN breaking step.
and then throws.
So four times nine.
So there's 36 throws that they use to warm up.
And then when we go through these patterns, gosh, we're probably up around $500.
Well, that's why.
That's why, I mean, that's the number that sits in my head.
And that in a combined situation, what happens that's different is that every throw is assessed even the warm up throws, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
Like you're...
Let me stop it.
The hotel is observed.
Right?
Right?
Yes, let me interrupt a little bit.
And I want to hold your point.
But when I was watching the quarterback, there were three that were above, right?
There was guys.
I'll just give you a number, 125 and 175.
And they, at the end, right, they called the receivers and defensive back, and they only called two quarterbacks.
guy and
say 175
but not the 125 guy
and he threw the ball
really well
so I kind of saddled off the side
and I said
125 threw pretty well
he said yeah but you know
I said no I don't
because
it was
and he didn't go out of directly
but he said you know
guy really presents himself well
in the hotel and things
so I don't know
what I couldn't say to remember out of
but that wasn't the right number
let's say it's 118.
But there was a guy that I thought through really well.
And for some reason, he was omitted, and it had to do with, you know,
whatever extra things that they had to serve from.
But the fact you point about observing everything.
No, it's spectacular.
We're talking to Barry Thompson at Fairfax Football Academy.
He's live at Indy and it's combined work.
And it's what you just said rings so important.
And parents and high school players.
I just want to repeat this.
It is not only what you do when it is live.
It is what you do when you think nobody's looking.
When you think nobody's watching, they're watching.
And if you're not getting the call that you think you should be getting,
it might be, and it probably is something else.
Something else.
I'll give me two quick comments about that, D.P.
One guy came up and spoke to me, and they found out that I was social with the guy.
And one thing he mentioned says, you know, God came to the meeting with a notebook.
You know, so, you know, like the, I guess the other guy didn't, but Guy did.
And then I had this agent who had some clients there talked to him a little bit.
He had a few kids from University of Charleston where guy went to school.
And he was looking at this one quarterback.
And I said, yeah, that guy says, pretty well, he says, man, he says, but take the hat off.
And I looked at him.
And he said, man, you know, and what his point was, you don't look like a professional
quarterback. That's not how
in his mind, a professional
quarterback presents, right?
So he's eliminating a guy
on that. And if he's
doing that, then you know that at least
somebody else in the room. Doesn't have to be fair.
But, you know,
if you look at the guys in the NFL
and how they present
themselves, right? There's a certain
look. And so
you know,
there's a lot of that that was going on in the field.
Guys were lending themselves less than
Right.
Whether they knew it or not.
They certainly didn't know it.
Right.
Like, I mean, but that's, and that's the awareness because you say to people, so I know that locally,
some high school kids are being introduced to Memorial Stadium and the process of the buildings,
all those things.
And sometimes they get lost in the wash because of other things, you know, the controllables.
They didn't control the controllables, which is, you know what?
how you move from drill to drill,
how you carry yourself in between throws,
how you communicate,
how you react to a negative situation.
All those things are super important.
It's like, oh, you make a throw to then land
the way you want to land.
Your reaction to it tells the coaches
everything they want to know about you.
Yeah, yeah.
On that club, you know, I've always,
I think you know this,
I've always told my quarterback
that hit the smack in the hand.
tell the receiver it's my bad or I got your next part right that's really because you know there's a
whole thing well that's because you play with me and it was it was always your fault uh it was always your
fault it was never it was never my fault i don't know i don't know i don't know i spun the ball the wrong
way yeah yeah you know you're left-handed like it's all your fault um like this right so but that
communication thing and i i had a conversation
with a receivers coach who said a very opposite thing,
but it was the same thing in theory,
was that he, we were, you know my,
my bad conversation that I have with players.
Right, right.
My bad will get you my bench.
Yeah, right.
My bad is right on the bench.
Right.
My bad is my, my bad will get you right on my bench.
And so we said to people, listen, be careful about that ownership thing.
sometimes you just let it pass
because speaking to it
sometimes will make people think
well if there are that many
my bads then you're not very good
by the way
you know what the new of my bad is
is I got you coach
I got you coach yeah I got you
no you don't got me
because if you had me
you wouldn't be saying I got you
yeah yeah
But that's the new one.
I got the coach.
Well, so what is it about to, and we've seen it over the course of years,
there's a thing that the current athlete does, which is they nod, yes,
even though they don't understand.
Well, you know, I swear you're always listening.
Check my phone.
I have in my indoor training,
I have been emphasizing that this year more than ever.
I've always told my quarterback knowing that they are the I got a coach guy
when they don't always really have it.
It's just the nature of the position.
You kind of feel like, you know, you're the guy.
And through their athletic abilities,
they usually noodle their way around, you know, a problem or an issue that they don't know.
But I've repeatedly called my quarterback ever since I said,
I don't know is a great, and I'm not going to swear, but a great effing answer.
And I do swear to make the emphasis.
I use the French word, as they said.
I say it's a great effing answer around me.
And this season more than ever, I've emphasized that.
In the middle of our training and doing all stuff, I'll stop,
and I'll ask a question and I'll say, which of you do not know what I'm talking about?
and they've gotten so much better at raising hands,
and we'll stop right there on the surface right,
and I'll explain something,
and it can be the simplest thing.
Like, I had some 12 and 15-year-olds,
and I said, how many guys know what Zone Reade is?
I said, Don't read.
And they, you know, a couple hands on it.
I said, know the name?
I said, do you know how it's blocked and what it is?
And they're like, no.
And I said, okay.
I said, have you ever heard of option football?
and they said, well, it's like you pitch, right?
I said, yeah, but what is option football?
Right, I'm asking the understanding of it.
And they looked, and I said, well, look, option football is you're basically not going to block a person.
That's what it means.
There's all different forms of not blocking a person, but you're going to make a decision off that person to make them wrong.
So it could be option football, it could be zone read, it could be RPO.
And then I walked them through, right, like a basic zone inside zone blocking scheme.
And, you know, the defensive end was there.
So now look what this does are in numbers.
That's the guy.
Right.
Before I did a drill, I explained the concept.
And then I said, okay, this is what defenses were doing to stop that.
They were scraping linebackers and exchanging gaps.
And I said, but then the offense saw when a linebacker left, there was a void there.
So that becomes the RPO.
go. And all of a sudden, you could tell the light bulbs are going off, right? And then we went
into the drill, so it made them, with them, understanding the footwork and where their eyes
needs to be a lot better. But I've done that more with my older kids, but protections, and I'll
ask them and say, hey, you know, your protections. And a good kid will say, yeah, I know my protection.
They'll give me some LR word, and it's a four-man turn, right? I'm like, okay, what if they
overload here? What are you going to do? And they're like, look at me. Like, you need to know
how to fix that. You're going to college, and I'm telling you, this is stuff.
You've got to, I just be able to idea a problem. And so we get into it. I have kids that,
you know, they didn't know the line techniques. And once you explain it to them, right,
it's pretty easy. I can say, give me a one, give me a three, and that type of thing.
But I've been to more and more of that with my quarterbacks. In the past, with my college
guy, as they get into that spring, their senior year, I mean, I really would corral them up.
and I would tell them exactly, like, this is how this needs to go.
And you need to sit down with the defensive coordinator.
You're going to see, you know, Buzz 3, week, you know, balance 3, all that kind of stuff.
And you need to get that guy to explain it to you like you're going to go play it.
Right?
His job is to teach it.
So he's going to be the best teacher of that defense for you to understand it.
You know, and how they're going to.
Anyway, I think, I think, you know.
No, no, but this is why, right?
Because it really is.
It's a classroom on turf, and people miss it and then can't figure out why there are gaps that exist and where they are in the game and what other people who are getting those offers are doing.
It's usually in the minutia, but it needs to be talked about.
Barry, can you hang for another segment?
Yeah, I'd love to you today.
Okay.
So we will throw it to break.
Barry Thompson, Fairfax Football Academy.
Barry, your ears might have been burning the other night
because I was talking about you to a local coach.
I'll tell you that story and we will go into detail when we come.
