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Barry Thompson is with us on the Honda-Lincoln hotline,
and we were talking about the mindset of winning.
and every level has to have some sort of idea of who they are and the mindset shows up.
Shows up in it.
It's the conversations that are had in that space on that team and that program and the locker rooms on the buses, in the classrooms,
and even in the car rides home, right?
Things that we can set in place.
For you, Barry Thompson, mindset of winning, what is it?
it? What is it? Well, I call it, you know, we talked about it a little bit, so I came up with something
that thing covers how I think about the subject, which is a 3D approach. You want to dream big,
you have to make a decision, and you have to have discipline. And so under those three things
comes a lot. You want to dream big because you're about to do something big, which is you're
going to change yourself. You know, if you're, if you're going to achieve something and you're, and you're
not there, that you're going to have to transform yourself, and that's a very big thing and
tough thing to do.
You're also going to have to, and along the Dreaming Big, like we just alluded to, you better
have a big reason for doing it.
The idea of Dreaming Big is something I don't think that we do enough of, but it's really
important because from an effort standpoint, some people are fearful to dream big to say,
I can be this or do this, or we can win.
this championship.
But you got to realize it takes the same amount of effort to make $1,000 as it does
$10,000.
You know, it takes the same amount of effort.
So why not?
It takes the same effort to win a game, you know, that goes into winning games each week
as it does to win a championship, right?
It's just your approach to the whole thing is different.
Making a decision, I think, is extremely important.
You can dream all you want to.
But you've got to make a decision that I am going to do this.
And once you commit to doing this, the next thing that you need to do is you need to start seeking out information.
You need to get hold of expertise because you're at point A and you want to go to point B.
You need to know how to get there.
And so you need to get around people that have been from point A to point B.
You can't do this on the one time I was at Elite 11 thing in George Whitfield, who, you know,
was the second. Steve Clarkson was the first quarterback whisperer, and George Whitfield got, you know,
you had seven consecutive first round quarterbacks taken. And George took these quarterbacks aside,
and he kind of admonished them. He said, don't have skyscraper dreams and have tent, like a Tent,
tent plant. He says, a tent, you want to build a tent, you can go into any R-E-I, you know,
buy the tent. There's little instructions there, fold it in the box, and you can pop this tent up,
a minute. But if you want to build a skyscraper, you better go find, you know, a guy who can
lay the rebar, a concrete guy, you better find a curtain wall glass guy, you better find an architect,
you better find somebody who's familiar with the permitting process, you better find the best
construction company, you better find a finance guy, you got to break, you know, all that stuff
that goes with that. So once you connect, make the decision, and seek out the information you need
to get you to that dream. And then the last thing is,
discipline. And you've got to commit to showing up every day. And you've got to commit to persisting,
no matter what, which is kind of an overcoming university, right? But the persisting, showing up every
day has a tremendous, tremendous value. It's been said that the richest real estate in the world
is the grade yard because that's where all those people with all those dreams died with them
because they didn't have the discipline right to carry it out and see it through.
So that discipline, you've got to persist.
And another little catchy phrase I love,
this showing up every day has a tremendous value.
They say in the battle between the rock and the stream,
the stream wins by persistence, not by power.
Right?
That study chipping away at something, study each day moving a little closer.
Maybe it might be an inch.
Next day it might be six inches, maybe a foot, you know, maybe two feet one day, back one a little
bit, but you keep persisting, keep showing up.
So for me, that winning mindset, it starts with that 3-D approach, getting the information,
and just doing this thing every day.
I was asked to write a commencement speech for one of the programs that we were connected to,
and I wanted it to be authentic, but I wanted to be universal,
and that it was not specific to teams,
but to people,
especially to the young people that were going to go out in the world,
they were going to leave mom and dad and go out into the world.
But I think a lot of the whole thing,
the thing that we were using is what they could use every day.
And it's the voice and the conversations in your head.
And the focus was two words.
Get up.
Get up.
Right?
That in order for you to do anything from where you are,
you have to learn how to and consistently say to yourself,
tell yourself, demand of yourself that you get up, right?
You're going to move from mom's house, mom and dad's comfortable house
to being in a college dorm and you will have to get yourself up.
You've got to get up and go get educated.
You've got to go to work.
You've got to go put in work.
You've got to go and meet people.
You've got to get up and get connected.
In the sports that you play, you're going to get knocked down,
so you better figure out how to get up.
and get back to work when you're going to go through struggles.
You're going to be put down.
Get up.
You're going to get, they're going to break up with you.
Get up and get back after it.
That's the thing that seems to be constant in it.
But it's the conversation in your head that matters probably more than anything.
The things that you say to yourself.
Right?
TPP, I'm cutting you.
I swear to God you had a microphone on the field today.
I just have, you know, I just think I don't know what you're saying.
And I know, let's just excuse me.
I'm not being rude, but this is kind of how DP I talk.
Like, well, one of us will say something.
I'm like, holy crap, and your brain explodes.
And then he'll do it to me from time and time, too.
Yeah, it was just related to sports.
I have quarterback, and they're kind of tight-aid personality.
You know, they want to compete.
They want to get everything right.
And one of the things I have to do with them,
is to modulate them.
So the ball may not come in exactly the way that they want,
but it's on time and it's located in the right spot.
And I'll hear, oh, you know, and I'll tell them, don't do that.
And they'll look at me funny.
And I said, don't do that.
I said, because we achieved all the objectives you want to achieve.
And then I was just saying this film, don't do that
because your body and your brain will believe what you tell it.
and if you told it that that was no good when in fact it was good
Peyton Manning in the Hall of Fame off the balls like that
then you're you're kind of setting your own self back
in an area where you need to have build yourself up
which is just talking the key piece of that.
No it's but this is the thing right that that
in a world where everything is microwavable
everything is instant access and instant gratification
that the conversations that people have with themselves,
it's the superhero thing that I talked about,
that there are moments when the superhero is always beat down.
They're down on the ground, they're in the corner,
shoulders are almost wrapped around their chest
because they feel defeated, the pressure to think,
whatever their weakness has been taken advantage of.
But there is a moment in superhero's lives,
whether it's parents, coaches, players, bosses, whatever,
where you have to take the deep breath,
put your hands on whatever you can get,
and push yourself up so your back straight and your chest is out,
you got to get up.
You got to get up.
And it's constant.
Right.
And those moments, D.P., that's why this,
stick with your superhero now.
that's why it's so important,
and from my perspective,
to have a bigger reason why you're doing that.
And the superhero scenario,
it's not just because they want to win the fight.
They're saving the city.
You know, they're rid of evil,
and they need to get rid of evil.
It's something bigger than themselves.
There's a little clip from Ali,
I think, in the documentary called When We Were King.
And I'll try to find,
to sniff it, but he talked about, you know, they were always talking about, you know,
fighting form and he's so much bigger and this and that. And they were asked them about it
over again. He says, you know, if I just think about, you know, I'm fighting for me. And as
he's doing this, he's making his body smaller and he's backing away. He said, if I'm just
thinking about me and he's getting smaller and smaller and backing away, he said, but I'm not
fighting just for me. And then he starts getting bigger. And he said, I'm fighting for, you know,
the children here, and I'm fighting for the people here. And I'm fighting for this. And I'm
fighting for that and I'm fighting and he gets to where he's right up on the camera the lens can't
contain him he says long as I'll fight for us stuff former can't beat me I got all that stuff in the
ring with me this idea that that that you that you're motivated by something bigger your family
your team always stuff players the smallest thing the smallest big thing that you should be playing
for is your team yeah that's the smallest big thing yeah so if you can start wrapping your
heads around that go ahead yeah no it's the depth right
And you say there are people who will take a knee.
The reason why you take a knee, you have to get small in order to grow.
Like you've got to get small in order to stand up.
And John Thompson used to talk about it.
He said, you know, my opponents are always, they're going to hit rock bottom two.
And they're going to get up.
That's how I know.
That's why I think of them as a rival because I know when I get them down, they're going to get up.
And I have to have a plan.
He goes, you better believe your opponent.
whatever friction you are going to engage is going to get up.
And then what are you going to do?
Like, then what are you going to do?
So through all these programs and these kids who are picking,
they're going through their frictions, their battles,
they're facing their weaknesses, right?
Because all these college athletes know their weaknesses.
They know what their coaches say that they need to get better at.
They know what their opponents pick on.
They know these things.
The people who evolve,
and then we're talking about in transfer portal,
sometimes you evolve by going to another place
in another space to hear another voice for different words.
And it's okay.
Like you're allowed as long as you're trying to go
in those two directions forward and up.
That's all that matters.
A good example, it's an older example,
is Russell Wilson.
You know, he was at NC State.
And, you know, he wanted to go off and try,
baseball, came back to play football, and they said no.
Right? So, you know, he wanted to put Wisconsin, right?
And, you know, he quickly became the captain of that team.
Now, you know, somebody just knew walking in to become the captain of a team that he hadn't
been with those guys for three years that says something about him, right?
He said something.
That's the guy at this point.
He was about more than just himself, and that was communicating.
the teammates. They said, yes, let's give him the C and let's go to the Rose Bowl.
Joe Burrow at LSU or like we can go Baker Mayfield.
We can go up and down the list of guys.
Yeah, yeah.
Right, who.
Kyle Murray, Kyle Murray.
Right, who got up.
And it happens in the NFL.
We can talk about Matt Stafford and say, listen, this is the beauty of that whole thing is,
dude was at the bottom, was taking the beating, took more hits than any quarterback in that
in that four-year run and simply said, I'm not done.
I need to get better, but I got to fix some things.
Now, the universe helps by sending them to L.A.
Right, sends them to L.A.
But that's, like, the NFL has been the transfer portal.
The NBA has been the transfer portal.
Major League Baseball has been the transfer portal.
We're just including young people who need that space and access more than the grown-ups.
Yeah, and you look at the NB is a great analogy, right?
Because the transfer portal used analogy worked out well for LeBron, right, until he got to L.A.
Until the nets were put together.
Those transfer portals didn't work out too well, right?
And then by contrast, right now seemingly at the top, you have, you know, guys like Seth who stayed hadn't transferred in.
And the got the two young guys at Phoenix who are really.
like and this John Moran kid.
I mean, I'm really liking the way he plays.
But yes, great announcement.
Well, here's the part.
And this is what I say about Nebraska.
I say it about colleges who make these decisions.
Alabama Clemson, et cetera.
Even when they go into these transfer portals
and they don't get the end-game result,
they get the immediate momentum.
Like the Brooklyn Nets value as an organization
has almost doubled.
because of this.
Yeah.
Right?
So, like, don't get lost in, oh, they haven't won a title, so this has been a bus.
Oh, no.
Look, you can call, there's certain players you can call a bus all you want, but guess what?
They got theirs.
Right.
Well, there's that, too, right?
There's a business side of it.
I hope you're looking at the QA, because this is kind of how we thought.
Right, right.
But go the other side of that, you look at the heat, right?
the environment that they set up
they were good when Pat was coaching
they got Alonzo they were up there making a run
they get the LeBron thing they get their
championships LeBron goes and
Eric Spolster who a lot of people won't realize
that they were like
who taking her for Pat Riley
and now very quickly they're at the top
of the conversation again
so they have that environment
that would make people
want to stay right
even if they're using the transfer
for right now the difference
is Brooklyn, although they got their money right,
they don't have that environment that's conducive to winning.
Whereas you look at Milwaukee, right?
And older listeners can go back when the salaries started climbing,
the congressman that was involved,
whoever owned the bucks at that time says,
well, they might as well buy the team.
And everybody's like the small market teams.
And suddenly Milwaukee kind of found their formula.
Right?
And in a day and age where their stars could have left,
you know, like Kareem left, right?
certain point way back in the 70s, Oscar
Robinson.
You know,
they've got an environment
now where you can see where they
can attract people. They like the town,
stay, we'll get your money right,
let's go win some championships.
It's interesting that organization
can shape that and get it right over time.
I'll say this. Brooklyn's worth
$3.61 billion.
Milwaukee is not.
That is true.
Milwaukee is not Milwaukee's worth half that and you have to ask questions, right?
You got to ask, like, look, man, look.
Get in where you fit it, man.
You know, what you're pressing?
And I think that's a big conversation at the pro level, right?
You either make the money or you get the ring.
Go for what you know.
No.
Yeah, get both.
Go for what you know.
We're throwing the break.
Again, Barry Thompson, we appreciate you.
You're going to ask you to hang out one more time.
One, we're going to talk about your practice.
to your workout today, and then we're going to talk about what you're eating.
We'll do both of those when we come back to close out one on.
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