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Episode Date: July 15, 2022

Barry's Thoughts (QB Battles) -How do you make a "fair" QB battle?Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

You're listening to One-on-One with DP. Brought to you by Mary Ellen's Food for the Soul on 93-7 the ticket and the ticketfm.com. Welcome back to old school, or old school one-on-one, everybody, sponsored by Mary Ellen's. This hour, the Barry Thompson Hour, is brought to you by Ambition Electric. Contact Joe with any of your electrical needs. Joe Davis, Ambition Electric, here for you on the Barry Thompson Hour. Barry, you still here with me? still here i'm i'm impressed that i have an hour named after me i'm um that's kind of cool

that's how you know you've made it just it's an entire hour just for you that's that's another whole thing but yeah we can get into that later but uh so we're talking you know quarterback ones and twos and and you know quarterback competitions and a little earlier this week Chubba Purdy had the supposed backup for the Huskers, came out with a statement talking about how he's ready to roll, he's ready for the competition. But a word that he threw in there that had everybody buzzing is he's hoping for a fair competition to compete for the starting job

with Casey Thompson, Logan's Mothers, and whoever else he needs to compete with. And to you, what would that word fair mean in the quarterback competition? When it comes to competing, well, I'm guessing what he means is I hope I get equal wraps with the same people and, you know, the same number of opportunities to make mistakes or be successful, same situations. And that just not reality. What people have to understand about coaches is as a coach, you're human, you have opinion, you have to plan. just can't approach a camp or a practice without a plan. You may want to look at something or, you know, have a feeling for it, but you better have a plan for how you're going to prosecute that thing.

Like I gave you the example before the break of another college. You know, they had a plan as to how they were going to handle their ones and two, and that was their plan for doing it. But in this situation, and I'll just say something to general to quarterbacks out there because I run across the spot. Competitions at the quarterback position are never fair. They're just not. So, you know, you have to understand if you're the guy competing,

you have to understand that it is going to be unfair, that you're not going to get equal reps. That one guy, maybe it's you, right? And the other guy is looking at one guy is going to get a little more allowance. It's not going to be exactly the same. It's not something that happens in a vacuum or test tube, right? This is real life. And so the better approach, if I'm somebody like Purdy, is kind of like what I said.

You know, how am I going to get? You got to understand. You know, you watch film. You lift weight. You do all the things. The guy that you compete with does those things, you wouldn't be at a Big Ten program if he didn't do those things. So now it becomes, okay, so then how do I become the guy? well you've got to kind of look in around the edges you know and figure out all right how am i going to make

myself better than that guy i can't be the same if you're the same it's a coin toss and sometimes you land your way and you know that guy's happy and you and you and your people are over here so gosh you know you just when's the coach can put me in or it can be a reverse right it lands your way now the other guy you never want these things to be a coin toss when you're competing. And you should never, no, never,

I would recommend that you never approach it at the coin toss. In my area, we're highly transit here. So DMV, there's people that come in and government jobs and military. And so I tell all my quarterbacks, you know,

when they come to this session, and there's, you know, two or three guys, I'll say, are you as good as him? And they said, no.

I said, well, you better start working to be as good as him. and they look at me because the guy that they're competing again isn't that guy and I said if he transfers into your school will he be the starter?

They go, yeah, I go, then that's a problem. That's a problem. You're worried about this guy that's next to you you're trying to be as good as him when the real issue is you need to work as hard as you can to be as good as that guy. If you're as good as that guy, then you don't have to worry about this thing.

So, you know, I'm sorry. You got me excited. Oh, no, you're totally fine. That's exactly what we want. And, you know, you're talking about, you know, getting good at certain things. And, you know, you have quarterbacks, especially, you know, if we keep it just Husker-centric, you have quarterbacks who have different skill sets. You know, Casey Thompson, kind of the strong arm, sit in the pocket, you know, deliver the pass kind of guy. Chubba Purdy is a little bit of both. He can deliver the pass. But if you need him to run, he can run.

He proved that when he was at Florida State, and he got one start. I believe it was against NC State. He had a couple passes against a lower-level team, but not talking about that one. And then Logan Smothers, who is more of the running-type quarterback, how difficult is it for, you know, a quarterback with a certain skill set to try to, not, you know, round pegs square hole, but fit into a certain offensive coordinator's, you know, wants and needs at the position. Well, that's, hopefully all three of them understand that, but even if they have

slight different styles, I would imagine what the coordinator wants more than anything else is great decision-making, consistent decision-making, and the ability to consistently move the change. We talk about moving the change because, you know, getting first down is extremely important. It has a multiple leveraging effect against the defense. The ultimate goal is to score. But just moving the change, you know,

not having empty possessions. You know, I don't know what their communication system is, but, you know, you know, getting consistently, getting the checks right, consistently making decisions, consistently being on time with the ball. And then

at the end of the day, you want a guy who has, is a little bit of a leader, right? So you have these kind of, I don't know, these major requirements of the job, right? But then you're looking for the candidate that's a little bit above that, right? And the fact that they're all competing here says to me that not one of the three has satisfied all of those requirements. And so there's room to go.

And I guess back to my earlier point, you know, make sure that you're setting the right standard for yourself. You know, if you're at a level and there's two other, and not to slight in the play, but if you're a level where you think you need to start because you made fewer mistakes than the other guys that made, that's not the right standard for yourself. The right standard is I don't make the mistake, right? That's the right standard.

That will get you on the field. I've got to get this down. I've got to find out what it is I need to learn. What is it I need to do? And sometimes with quarterbacks and I've counseled some of my college guys, especially early on. I said, go talk to the defensive coordinator. Go talk to him. Get him to explain to you what this is. Get it right down to the granular left. I said, your own defense, you use different stances and your safety, different stance for different coverage. I said, you ought to know that.

You ought to know that. You ought to know when they're blitzing, not just that they're coming, but what they're trying to do. What is it that they're trying to take away? Right. So, If any of those three are to that point and they can handle themselves on the field, you've got to start. But if they're not to that point and they're not able to consistently act on the information, then you've got a competition. Yeah, yeah, that makes a ton of sense. And speaking of a competition and, you know, not a team getting it wrong, but maybe looking back and possibly kicking themselves, you have Will Levis, who was the backup at Penn State to Sean Clifford. Sean Clifford is still somehow at Penn State for like his 12th year. Will Levis going into...

I don't want to... They didn't amazing how some players, they'll come along and they seem like they're out of school forever. Oh, yeah, it's wild. But Will Levis is going into his second season at Kentucky. Again, he was the backup to Sean Clifford at Penn State and now is a projected first-round quarterback. How does that happen, Barry? What's happened? Look, how does Texas Tech not have room for... Patrick Mahomes.

I mean, not Texas. I mean, Baker-Macy. How does that work? How does Texas A&M can't figure out how to get Kyler Murray on the field?

Right? They had Tim and who was the other guy? They had two five stars there. Yeah. And it just blew, was it Kyle Allen? I think it might have been, yeah. Yeah, because he's in the pros too,

right? Yeah. So, right? One's having more success than the other. But Kyle Allen was being played over that. Yeah, human, not good mistakes. And you've had Nebraska quarterback leave and get on the field, correct? True.

Yeah, so look at Joe Burr. They had a whole lineup of quarterback there that were there. Haspin State. The kid from Vegas went down to Florida to become a receiver. We hadn't heard from him. And Burroughs goes to LSU, and he's Joe Burroughs now. So you can look at it and say, yes, but maybe those situations kind of created Joe Burroughs, kind of created Colin Murray. Like even as talented as they are, they understood that, hey, what I'm doing is not good enough, or I need to take this to another level.

So it could have been that the situation created them rather than Joe Burroughs as a future Super Bowl winning quarterback. and that Ohio State they just didn't want to hear any of it. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And to be honest with you, it's those situations that really create quarterback because there are situations where if you look back on it, normal people, normal people would quit. But they say, oh, no, oh, no, I'm going to find a way, right?

And they find a way. And that really makes sense. So I think if you were to go back and be honest with you, those situations probably created them. Yeah. Yeah, not that, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they probably wouldn't have been who they are if they hadn't gone to whatever school they ended up going to.

Yeah, you probably wouldn't have seen Joe Burrow at all if he would have stayed at Ohio State. I mean, they had a litany of five stars. Right. It's possible, but, you know, he was lined up at such competitions, he hadn't been trying so hard every day, you know, and that when you talk about it, this gets into what, you know,

the fascinal, I'm all my blind or something. But this is the real ground. Where you don't know where or when the light is going to come. You don't know.

You're headed down. You're doing everything. You're checking every box that you can possibly check. But you don't know that that's going to lead to anything. But you're committed to it. Mm-hmm.

Right? It's tough. It is a tough thing to do. And God bless the guys that, you know, sit for three years. And, you know, they, even they have a kind of chance this guy's going to go. But that quarterback position, there's so much competition. You can go through it for two years, and especially the way it is now. And that third year, you think you've got it, they go to the portal, boom, and you're gone.

Right? And so that's what they're facing. And a lot of players are faced with. And so, you know, kudos to them. These guys that fight their way through that. process, those are the guys that really, you know, they develop that grip at the determination that this is going to happen. But it is tough.

It is not easy. Maggie went to work every day, and you didn't know when your paycheck was coming. That would have been rough, yeah. Right? That's crazy. Come in. I want you to be loyal. I want you to be professional.

Get better. Get better. Come on. We're doing more. You're getting better. I'm giving you more responsibility. they're like, come on, come on, right? We're growing, we're getting better.

The company's experiencing the sex. Come on, come on, keep going. And you don't know when your paycheck comes. That'd be a rough look. Well, I'm just saying. And then, right? And then you decide at one point, hey, this isn't going to happen for me here. I've been here for three years and there's no paycheck.

But I want to get paid. So now you go to a new place and your approach is way different. And then people get mad at you for leaving because you weren't paid because you might have gotten paid. You might have gotten paid. But you go off and your approach from the start is different because what successful people do is they learn from failures. They learn from failures. Failures are such a huge part of somebody being successful. So they would consider that three years a failure.

I didn't get what I wanted. And now let me figure out, okay, what was missing? What is it that I have to do? Because I can get that paycheck. That's not happening. Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. So we're going to go into this final break. I have one question for you.

We cooking or we eating? We're snacking. We're snacking. Ooh, interesting. Yeah, we're eating. We're going to eat. That's a little different. Okay.

Well, we'll head to a break. When we come back, we're going to find out what Barry Thompson is eaten. Up next on one-on-one.