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Episode Date: July 29, 2022

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Shout out to John Cena. So this just came across my Twitter feed, RICO. Uh-oh. This comes from Brett McMurphy. Shout up, Brett. Which, I don't know how we feel about Breckman Murphy because he throws a lot of clickbait out there for Nebraska fans. He knows what he's doing.

This is what he said. It is on. Pack 12 Commissioner George Cleofkov. Clemukov. Talking about Big 12's commissioners' comments, Brett Yormox. Your mocks. About the Big 12 being open for business. Says, quote, I appreciate that.

We haven't decided if we're going to shop there or not. Damn. And Brettman Murphy says it is on. So, reallignment season. It's bad. It's still alive. Realignment season is always. It's still alive.

Always and forever is realignment season. But we're not going to talk about realignment. Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. Right now we're going to talk about probably the strangest thing I saw on social media yesterday. The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim are shopping everybody. And you know, normally when you say, when a team says we're shopping everybody, they're excluding, you know, their franchise players and the people who put butts in seats. But when it comes to the Angels, no, that means everybody.

Apparently, Shohei Otani's name is on the table. Yeah. And what it would take, according to one MLB scout, is your top four prospects and something else, which if I'm anybody, take them. Yeah, I don't agree with you there. don't care. Like if I'm, what, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, Baltimore Orioles. Adler Richmond doesn't count as a prospect anymore.

He's your, he's your, he's your team. He's pretty close, though. It doesn't count as a prospect anymore. Your top four prospects, you have the number one, number one farm system in baseball, right? That's them. The, uh, the Orioles. Oriel's, yes. Give away your top four.

You have Shohey Otani now. Yeah, if you're the Orioles, I suppose so. If I'm, if I'm the Yankees, yeah, sure. Okay. If I'm anybody. I don't care. I mean, you probably wouldn't take, you know, whoever has the worst farm system, their top four prospects. Maybe they're not that good.

But if I'm anybody with any type of decent prospects and the angels are saying, yeah, if you want Shoheyotani, who's one of the most electric players in baseball, it's going to take your top four prospects. Yeah, like you have maybe not an ace. Well, he could be an ace. You can have an ace or a two or a three pitcher. I was going to say it's valuable because he can pitch and hit. And a fantastic hitter. Yeah. With the new rule, he's, he's makes, makes him extremely more, much more valuable because.

Even on an AL team. Yeah. And, I mean, on an NL team also, I mean, you're getting rid of the DH rule. You have, you don't have the, or you have the DH rule now. So, um, where it's the universal D.H. So even if you are, I mean, even if he does pitch, he'll, he'll still be able to hit. Whichever league he goes into. Yeah.

I mean, like, you talk about, I guess, what's this contract situation? And that's what makes it more interesting because you have to, you have to factor in contract situation as well. Well, this is a seven year. So he's, yeah, so he's five year? It's going to be a four-year deal, show a Otani contract. Yeah, I don't care. I'm paying all the money. Well, so no, it's extremely reasonable right now.

If I'm the royals, I do it. Yeah, he's getting paid $5 million a year. Like, so, I'm sure it probably goes through 2024, but we'll double check here. Okay, so Shohei signed a... Oh, this makes things a little more interesting. Uh-oh. Was it a smaller contract than I was believing? Yes.

He signed a two-year, eight and a half million dollar deal. Oh, they don't think he's going to re-sign. So, okay, so this is kind of... He has an arbitration year for 2023, but that... So that kind of puts, makes things a little more interesting. if you don't know how arbitration works, basically, okay, so basically when you have an arbitration here, you have to go through salary arbitration

before you can become an unrestricted free agent, basically, and have free reign. And basically what arbitration would do is Shohei's side comes with a number if they can't agree on a contract. If they can't agree on a contract, they have to go to arbitration, which basically Shohei's side, his agent,

Shohei, and all the people around him, decide or determine a number that they believe Shohei Otani as well. worth for one year. Okay. The Angels will do the same thing. We have massive. And as you know, as you can probably assume, the Angels, or any, any organization when

they're going through arbitration, has a substantially lower number that they believe that their players worth. Derek Jeter went through it. If you watch the captain, Derek Jeter went through it. And he ended up winning his arbitration, like his fourth year in the league. But anyway, so then they have to actually go to court. And a judge will decide the salary arbitration. And if Shohay wins the case, basically it's a pitch to the judge on why you think you're worth whatever number you brought to the court.

And if Shohay wins the case, then he can. That's how much they have to pay him. And if the angels, no, no, no. So if the angels decide to, or if they win the case, then Shohay has to accept that deal. Okay. So it's one of those things where, but the problem with arbitration. Do the angels have to accept Shohey's or can they not sign it? Yes.

Yes. So here's the thing. Because once you go into arbitration, it's settled. And you can choose not to go to arbitration. Yeah, you can choose. And if they want to just cut ties, then they can go. So that's where it makes it a little different. But here's the thing. As you can assume or guess, when you go into arbitration and you're fighting and basically

show hey. I mean, like, so to put it in an example, Derek Jeter went through it, like I just said, a couple years into the majors. And he was worth, he thought he was worth at the time, like, $5 million. And the Yankees thought he was worth like three. And he wanted that extra two. Yeah. And this was coming off of some postseason experiences and all and all that. And he goes, that was the first time I realized that the Yankees didn't think I was as good as I knew I was.

And he goes, that's the first time I realized that this is truly a business and that people are in it solely to make money and that I'm not as valuable to an organization as I thought I was. So as you can assume and guess that arbitration, a lot of times can cause rifts between star athletes and the organizations, right? So that's why a lot of times organizations will do anything they can to avoid arbitration. So that's arbitration. So it's a little different there. Thank you. I needed that education lesson. Is that sarcasm, Rico?

No, I really did. I had no idea of arbitration. Yeah, so it's very confusing. And we'll be, Major League Baseball is so weird with drafts and arbitration and all that. I don't like contracts and going through all the nitty gritty and all that because I don't understand it. And that's why I could never be an agent and why I would need to hire an. agent. Well, it shows, it shows that

agents are extremely important and that a very quality agent is extremely valuable. Because, I mean, gosh, I mean, that's not their job to worry about all the minor details of contract and about arbitration and all that. I'm just trying to play baseball. And you have service time in the, in the Major League Baseball and designated for assignment and you have to go through waivers if you have so much service time in

majors before you can just go back to AAA, like things like that. It's just so confusing. But anyway, so now in this situation, you're looking at Shohei as potentially a rental player. I mean, that's practically it. If he gets traded. Which makes it much more difficult. Like, if you're a team, let's say you're the Padres, right? Because the Padres are out front for Juan Soto right now. Are they? Yeah, they are. So it's like if you, so if you're like a team that needs a rental, I mean, I'm trying to think of a team that just needs one guy to get over the top. Like,

if you're the Mets, right? If you're the Mets. If you're the Mets. If you're the Mets. Mets, are you confident in Shohay re-signing after this year with your organization? Houston. Houston would be an idea, yeah. Like, Yordon Alvarez has exploded onto the scene. Kyle Tucker is hitting well. He has almost 20 home runs this year. Like, Jose Altube is still there, Braggman's still there.

Like, he's still got guys there. The Yankees to replace Joey Gallo. There you go. So, like, the Yankees. Are you confident in Shohay resigning there? Probably, right? Well. That's a lot of money

It is, it is, but I mean Here's the thing You got Shohei and Judge But yeah, whatever Yeah, so like if you're As long as you're confident that he's going to resign with you guys Then it makes The decision to part ways with your top four prospects much easier

That's with any rental situation in any sport Because that's I suppose so, but you're not not to that magnitude No, not four, I mean like look at the Royals and Ben Attendee for example The Royals gave up Ben and Tendi And the Yankees only had to give up their night best prospect, their 21st best prospect and an unranked prospect. Like, okay, take it.

Take it. And if it doesn't work out, then it's okay. If he doesn't resign, then it's okay. And we just move on with our live and we lost three prospects. Oh, darn. Yeah, exactly, because the Yankees are just fine. So it's one of those situations where you're much more comfortable and okay with giving up your top four prospects in your farm system.

Like, that can really set you back. Like, depending on positions and where you're at roster-wise, And contract-wise with your active roster, with your 40-man MLB roster. Like, losing four prospects can really set you back. It doesn't seem like a lot, but it can... Oh, it can really set you back if Shohay does not resign for you. Another thing also to take into account, Shoah loves Mike Trout.

Like, Shoah grew up, his dream was to play with Mike Trout. Well, he's realized that dream. Now he has to go win something. Yeah. Because he hasn't won anything. And neither is Mike Trout. Well, here's the thing. Shohay and Mike.

People keep saying, I keep seeing people tweeting and texting in Mike Trout to St. Louis. There's no way. Is that actually a thing? There's no way that the angel will ever get rid of Mike Trout. But they're about to get rid of Shouhay. Well, what's crazy about is we still have a couple days. We still have a couple days.

August 2nd is the trade deadline. It's going to be wild. I love it. Yeah, the... I love trade deadlines. Yeah, I do. I usually do as well unless it's the Cubs here, like they are. Yeah, you're going to lose two of them.

Contreras and Hap? I'm not so sure about Hap right now. I'm for sure about Contreras. Like, contraris, here's the thing. It's been really emotional. Yeah, it's been bad. Like, he does not want to leave. This was like the dude with the Mets a couple years ago.

Where he thought he got traded and he was crying. Wilmer Flores. Yeah, Wilmer. Was it Wilmer? No, it was definitely Wilmer. Because then he's crying and then, like, found out he didn't get traded. And then, like, all of the Mets fans loved him. And then he went on, like, a tear.

Yeah. That's true. That's true. I forgot about that. So, like, here's the thing. It's interesting they brought up the Mets. So they have... Is there a catcher Travis Darno?

I can't remember. But you look at possible teams that need a Wilson-Kattreras, right? And here's my problem with the Cubs. I was telling this to Schaefer yesterday morning, actually. I was just like, top five catchers don't come and go. Like, they don't grow on trees. Top five catchers that are good defensively and offensively do not just grow on trees. It's very difficult to find a quality catcher.

Like, it's extremely difficult. Like, Yadier Molina in his prime was spectacular. And, but if you think of, like, Salvador Perez, offensive catcher. You think of, oh gosh, I'm trying to think of other guys. there's guys that you can think of that are out there that are more defensive-minded than offensive-minded. Like Buster Posey, for example, defensive-minded. I mean, Yadi was more-Yadi is probably more defense as well.

He's solid offensively. I mean, obviously they're going to be solid because they're in major leagues. He makes his mark on the defensive side. Okay, so Crowbey mentions a good one. AJ Prisinski, that's a good throwback name. That's a really good throwback name. But anyway, like, I just sit here and I'm like, catchers don't grow on trees to where they're spectacularly

offensively and defensively. And you have a situation if you're the Cubs, if you're the man or if you're the front office where it's like, do we spill out some money for this guy that wants to be here? He does not want to leave Chicago. They originally signed him as an, what's fascinated about Wilson-Cutreras, you might not know this, RICO. They signed him as an outfielder. That is a change. They initially signed him as an outfielder and they transitioned him to catch her. How do you go from outfield to catch?

So, I truly don't know. but they transitioned him to catcher. And he's done really well. And he has turned into a top five catcher in Major League Baseball. Wow. And like you think about other catchers that are anomalies, right? And when we say anomalies, it's offensive and defensive catchers. Adley Rutchman's in that category now,

even though he's struggling at his start of his MLB career. He'll figure it out. Will Smith for the Dodgers is in that category as well. Like you have these young guys. Jose Trevino. Jose Trevino. Like, guys that are, you are not, if you are a organization, you are not giving up. You will not give up.

But here come the Cubs. And here's the problem with the Cubs. If you look at their recent trades, they just get Jack Bleep for all their guys. They're not good at trading. And so that's where I'm like sitting here. For Anthony Rizzle last year, you got a little bit of help. I mean, then you get that, that's. first baseman from

AA in the Atlanta Braves organization to replace Anthony Rizzo and now he's flamed out like what is going on here? And so now it's like you have to call for help from Frank Schwindell and Patrick Wisdom like it is a complete joke it's a complete joke that

that you're even getting rid of them and yeah so that's my rant I could go on and there's baseball corner I hate the Cubs. No I actually do I love them but you despise them currently. Yeah yeah yeah I would that's good. We can get more baseball talk later.

Maybe. I'm sure. We're definitely going to get more baseball. We're going to have a while. That's baseball corner on one-on-one. We'll finish up the show up next on 93-7 the ticket. Download our app by searching 93.7 the ticket in your app store. You're listening to one-on-one with DP on 937 the ticket and the ticketfm.com.