1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - Coach Ron Brown - March 4th, 2024

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It's time to go one-on-one with D.P. Coming at you live from the couple Chevrolet GMC Studios. Here is your host, Derek Pearson, brought you by Mary Ellen's Food for the Soul. On 93-7 the ticket and the ticket FM.com. It's the thing that happens, Coach Brown. It's the thing that happens every time you come in and try to figure out the headphones. Welcome to it on a Monday and as we fire up

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Listen, in this space, storytellers are important. They're vital. They're vital. And then when you can say that the storytellers are also leaders, then you've met on something really cool. So let me welcome to one-on-one, the one-and-only coach Ron Brown. Coach, thank you for doing this today. D.B. is an honor, man. Good to be here with you. No, there's so much, there's so much to it. Oh, man.

And you and I have had several conversations away from the microphone that, as some comedians say, would let me further know. That these are conversations that need to be had because you're the gatekeeper for information and standard. But you've seen all of this. You've seen this town kind of evolved. You've seen the state. You've seen the programs. You've seen the athletes.

You've seen coaches and how they work. You've seen that change. All of that while being a part of it. And so you get to see some of us watch from 10,000 feet. Like we watch the forest and we see the trees. But you're there planting seeds. And you know what's coming because you were part of how it arrived. And so I want to thank you for sharing knowledge.

Well, first of all, I thank the Lord for the opportunity that I've been given to even be here in Nebraska. And then to meet men like you who, and I, first of all, just let me say thank you. You've given some of my former players and recruits great opportunities. You know, I see, I see Jay just walking out of here. And, of course, I've had close relationship with Jay over the years, helping to recruit him and it was a great player for us and of course uh there's vj and ad and bill bush and uh you know there's just a variety of people terrell i mean um you know you've you've given a voice to some guys i see eric strickland here of course i remember eric as well

over the years and then some of the other gentlemen and and ladies that you have around here and mature dear wife as well and so uh it's it's it's a it's a it's a blessing uh When it's used really well, there's opportunities, as you're talking about right now, for wisdom to be shared back and forth. And learning lessons have a lot of fun, but also a great catalyst for growth for all of us. I went through. I was at a meeting Saturday of some great men from Lincoln, Nebraska and from Omaha. And it struck me that being in that room that often cases, these are educators. mentors, political leaders, professors, high school coaches,

and some of the great Nebraska athletes to ever do it. And then it hit me that if at any point, that collection of 40, so let's go back to 1994, that if you said you took 40 men from that road, they're all of high caliber, high work ethic, high character being the important thing, that if they got together and decided that they wanted to accomplish anything for the greater good, they're in an army in Nebraska that can stop them from it.

So here's the thing. Leadership set that in play. You were in the rooms of the greatest collection of men in Nebraska's history. So I'll ask you to go into that room for me and tell me what were the personality types, What was the common thread? If I asked you, what trait did they all have that you were able to identify, celebrate, elevate, manifest? What was the trait that makes great men great when it comes to Nebraska? Well, as I think about these men that you're talking about, you know, I, you know, DP, people say, oh, kids are different today.

Kids are different. I'll tell you what, maybe they have different devices. Yeah. But they're really not all that different to me. And what I think what separates these guys that we what we've talked about from that era was that they were first of all, Coach Osborne had the courage to discipline them and love them biblically from that worldview that he felt was right that where the character would never exceed. in other words, the character would never, I should say it this way, the talent should never exceed the character.

The character always had to develop the talent. And I think these young men finally, and I say finally, because we all fight that, finally submitted to that and said, okay, I'm in. I'm going to listen to you. It's not going to be about me.

It's going to be about us. And now, when my character begins to flourish, now my talent begins to maximise. That is, This is why you got to understand that for folks that know me know what makes my skin kind of stand up, right? That when you reach a common thing about good things, about success, that we all can I immediately think of the most talented people we know. And they're not always the most successful because they haven't chosen to listen to anybody about the work required and the why. It matters.

So you mentioned Coach Tom Osborne, and I think that we bury the lead with coach. He was able to lead because of the man that he was, not because of the space he was in or otherwise. So I'll ask you, give us the bird's eye view of Coach Tom Osborne as you knew him. You make a really good point. it wasn't the tools that he had or the place that he was at. It was the man that he was. Birds fly and lizards crawl. That's one thing I started to learn over the years, D.P.

Is that when you see birds trying to crawl and lizards trying to fly, and then the world's all messed up. It's all upside down. Let them do. But if you had put that man in any profession, you would have seen similar type things come to arise, which is what I love about our present head coach, Coach Rule. I mean, he comes from a lot of that old school,

the Joe Paternal background, et cetera. But even beyond that, with all the intelligence that he has, there's a foundational groundwork that's been laid in his life, and that's being passed on. And so we're going in a good direction. in that way presently. But yeah, certainly with Coach Osborne, it was refreshing.

It was, for me, it was the, it was my second college football experience in coaching. And I, I was blessed. I was blessed to have, had spent the 11 years that I had with him as an assistant coach. And then the maybe four or five years that I had with him when he was the athletic director here. to see leadership and action where what was under the hood of the car was more important than the beauty of the car sitting in the lock.

And that's that's so much of coaching, especially at the Division I level, even at the Ivy League level, right, that sometimes we get caught up in the cosmetics of it and we miss. Yes. We absolutely miss the fiber of it. Yeah. And I'll give you, you said it. nailed it right there. We miss. We're missing a good ball game sometimes. And we're right in the ball game. And we're missing a good game.

Because our eyes run the wrong thing. It's like, like, one thing that Coach Osborne always stressed was we're not going to make the final score on that scoreboard the most important thing. Now, a lot of times people say, well, you guys about participation awards? No, that's not what I'm talking

about. We were extremely competitive. We wanted to win badly. But there was something greater to seek than, And what was up on that scoreboard, whether we were ahead in the scoreboard or behind in the scoreboard, whether we won the game or lost the game, there was still the game, the process of the game, how we fundamentally ran, how we blocked, how we tackled, how we hit people, our attitude during the course of the game, did we maximize the God-given talent we had?

And if that didn't get satisfied, week after week after week and day after day after day in practice, then we weren't happy campers, no matter how many games we were winning. Isn't the word for that standard? Yes. Right? Right. Like it gets lost. Absolutely. That all the cosmetic stuff, all of the uniforms, all of the social media stuff that exists currently, all of that stuff, it's distraction.

Yes. And it has some benefit if used well. if you're good people, then all of those things, all those devices have good, good results. But if you're not working in quality and you're not working in purpose, like if the play-by-play isn't that important, then the rest of the stuff isn't going to matter. It loses value. If you're playing a game and you don't think, hey, am I honoring Coach Brown? Am I honoring Coach Osborne? Am I honoring Coach Rule? Am I honoring my parents? Like that gets lost. That's right.

And, you know, so when things get lost, sometimes it's because I know when I lose things, DP, it's because I've set my mind on it for a minute and then I take my mind off of it and start looking for something else. Now I lose track of the thing that I was originally hoping to have with me and I don't have it anymore. First thing first. Right. Where's Coach Osborne had a.

a fundamental list of things that were going to be brought up every single day. Can you share what those are? Well, yeah, there were a few things. One thing that really gets underrated in the whole evaluation of talent amongst athletes and especially I've noticed over the years with parents who have sons who are playing on the team or daughters, you know, with other sports. Well, at any right, what I noticed was the amount of laziness and calculated loaves that are taken, laziness is a huge, leads to huge waste.

It may be as big of a crime as there is in any aspect of life. And so, in fact, the Bible says, do you see a man who's diligent in his work? That man will not stand before average men. He will stand before kings. That's Proverbs 22, 29. And Coach Osmond understood that. And so he used the term all the time. He would say, I don't want to see any calculated loaves out on that football field.

What a great term. Right. Right. That has to be. And from the text line, Boone says this, it's on the side of Memorial Stadium. In the deed, the glory. Right? Because we know talented people who choose to just not do the thing that's going to lead them to greatness.

Absolutely. And you know what? Here's the thing that I used to battle with sometimes with parents. They would say, why is my son not playing more? How come to him? And I said, sir, ma'am, have you come to practice? And just watched how lazy he is at times. I mean, that doesn't sound very nice. No, but I got to be an empire. I can't be a cheerleader all the time. I got to call a ball and a little bit. I got to call a ball on a strike. Right. Coach. In my high school coaching days, the first thing that I would say to people is that, have you met your child? You know, this is the same young man or woman who won't change their socks.

And you're expecting me to win a national title with him. Well, you know, and I've, even my wife and I, we've laughed over the years because my girls were involved in dads and so forth. But when their dance teacher got after them because they were being lazy and weren't practicing their things at home, you know what? We celebrated that. We were like, you know what, man, it's not fun to have your daughter being louded out in front of the other kids. But you know what? That's what should happen.

She earned it. Absolutely. She absolutely. And they're benefiting that child. They're really benefiting that child when they get after them about their work ethic. So, Coach Oswald, one would always make a big deal every week about CalCAP. So there's two things that we were going to have on our football team. Long before we won his first national championship, I got here in 1987.

We, DP, we lost seven straight bowl games. We would win 11 every year. And everybody, you know, we were in the top five, top 10 in the country. But we always got, it was either Oklahoma at the end of the regular season or it was Miami or Florida State or somebody, you know, that we were losing in a bowl game. And, but before then, before we won that first national championship, 1994, we were the hardest, working, toughest, most physical team in college football. And we pressed it and pressed it and pressed it. And what I appreciated about Coach Osmond, even when people were saying, you can't win the big one. You always come short. You never want it. We need somebody

that can finish it off. You know what? He said, man, we are going to be the most physical team in college football. We're not going to take calculated loafs. That standard that you just talked about, that never got, we never got off track. We never lost that. We didn't, we did that standard go. I can't find it anymore. No, we, every single day that was dealt with. And then one day, we won a national championship.

But isn't that the actual lesson? Is that you had, you don't win the national titles that followed if you hadn't lost those ball games and reset the standard. That's right. 100% by people miss that you have to go through to grow through. Like, it's, it's convenient for people. who have never had that kind of success or gone through that kind of success to say what that success

is going to look like. And the success was in the deed. It was in finding a way to be purposeful that, listen, we're going to be physical, we're going to be tough, we're going to do it the right way. And then, and then we're going to learn the thing that we can't measure,

which is heart. That you get tired of not finishing. That's right. And it is the most difficult thing. I say it on the station all the time. The most difficult thing in all the sports to do is finish. It is.

And DP, after the, whatever the finish was, you know what else I learned over the years? The response is really important. How you respond to a team, your team, let's say if you're the leader, that wins the game, but doesn't play very hard, doesn't max out on the standard that you've set.

Sometimes it's easy to say, well, we won the game, and you know what, at the end of the day, that's all that really matters. You know, that's how we're going to keep our job, blah, blah, blah, blah. But you've really sold those kids short

if you've taken that attitude. And another thing about Coach, I was one that I always loved, no matter what, after every single game, that's how it was evaluated. Calculated loaves, physicality okay now the next thing okay

and we looked at things like penalties and turnovers and and all those things and how we and even our response to scoring touchdowns if we're doing backflips in the end zone you know moving on us up

and everything else that didn't go over well and that so there's always there was rebuke and reward for everything within the process and we never lost track of that and that's what I appreciated about it. But so when we did win a national championship, you know what? Yes, we were

exhilarated and excited. But I remember Coach Osborne that night we won the national championship. We were down in downtown Miami. We didn't have cell phones then. You know, here we are trying to get, you know, these buses through all the throngs of people in the downtown traffic. And we finally get out to a hotel and its sister. It's just mass chaos with media people and so forth. And I saw coach I was born he did something that you know what doesn't shock me now that I you know know no no him real well but he saw all that media you know he did he got out of that bus he went around the back of the bus and they were waiting for him they had lines waiting for coach i was born cameras and everything else and he snuck up the back entrance of the hotel went to his

room and went to bed i said to coach out i was born i said why didn't you go down and hang out with the media and all that he said well uh you know what i'm I'm going on a mission trip tomorrow to Haiti. And he says, you know, that's going to be a grueling trip. And he said, I just wanted to get ready for that. The next, what's next? The next step. That's all part of the process.

How you handle, even the accolades that everybody wants to throw on you, DP, he handled it with a calm because the process was always more important than the school board. The phrase that was passed along to me from the late great John Thompson. was that coaching at a high level required an on GPS. And that Coach Osborne, the moment his task was completed, knew immediately what was next and went to it because if it didn't,

this GPS would have told him, you're not preparing for the next thing. It's pretty amazing how greatness happens. We'll throw it to break. When we come back, you mentioned Coach Osborne, you mentioned Coach Rule. Coach Brown, when we come back, I'm going to ask you to tell me the similarities between

Coach Tom Osborne and Coach Matt Rule. If there are any things that are in common, I would like to ask you to share them with our listeners. You're listening to Coach Ron Brown, one-on-one with DP on 93-7, The Ticket. Download our app by searching 93.7, The Ticket in your app store. You're listening to One-on-One-1 with DP on 93-7 the Ticket in the Ticketfm.com. You're listening to One-on-One with DP. Brought to you by Mary Ellen's Food for the Soul on 93-7 The Ticket and the Ticketfm.com.

Welcome back to one-on-one Monday edition next to me, the legend coach Ron Boone, Ron Brown. You remind me so much of Boone. You remind me so much. I remember Ron Boone. Well, Booner was when I was in Utah, my show was with Ron Boone and him talking about Omaha and the days of him playing baseball, football, basketball with Bob Gibson and Gail Sayers, right?

And there was so much teaching going on. There's so many lessons that I took from that. That's who you remind me of in full. Like he'll call it now. He's one of the people that call me Derek. Like he didn't call me DP. He calls him. He comes on the show.

he's Derek and that's his way. I remember I'd have loved to be able to hoop like him, man. I know that. I heard. I don't know. See, this is, don't let, don't let, Harrison do not let Coach Brown fool you. Because the fellas said back in the day that Coach Brown might have been a better basketball player than a football player.

Coach? I was actually, yeah, I took one of my, one of my official visits in college in sports, mostly most of them were football, but I did take an official. basketball visit. I got recruited to play basketball at Dartmouth and Harvard. In fact, you know, when I was being recruited by Harvard for basketball, do you know who their star player was that? No. You're not going to believe this.

James Brown. I do know that. The James Brown on TV, right? I do know that. James Brown was the captain of that Harvard basketball team. He was a mentor. He was a mentor in this business for me because he's from Washington, D.C. And he would come on my show back in D.C. And he was, look, I'm not, I'll say, this openly. I'm not in Lincoln, Nebraska, doing radio without James Brown mentoring me in D.C. Is that right? 100%. Man,

I respect the dude. The man loves the Lord. He's very gifted in what he does. But yeah, he was a guy that I looked up to back then growing up in Massachusetts and being recruited by Harvard for a while in basketball. I definitely had to want to listen to what he had to say, and then I just followed him the rest of his career. That difference. And I, You can't bury the lead in that statement that being recruited by Ivy League schools back in the day being recruited. I think we're close in age. Yeah, yeah. I'm 67 now.

We ain't that close. We ain't that close. No. I thought so, man. I know I had you. 62. But close enough in error to. remember how difficult it would have been for you to be recruited by the Ivy Leagues,

both academically and athletically in that day, because I kind of thought of myself in that space, and it wasn't easy, it wasn't easy win. What was it? What was happening in your life that allowed that much success, athletically and academically, to be considered multiple sports, Ivy League? Well, you know, I was being recruited by different schools around the country. They were predominantly black schools in the south. You know, there was still segregation in a number of the areas of this country, racial segregation going on with colleges and so forth. So some of the schools like Florida and M, North Carolina Central, some of those people.

I was a member of that club. Yep. Right. And then, and Rutgers offered me a full ride. And so I was really, I actually committed to them. But then when I got into the Ivy League, when I finally realized that I was going to be admitted into an Ivy League school. You know, I started to think through the opportunities. I came from a very poor family. I was a I was a ward of the state, foster kid, adopted by two

people who had very little money, very little education and much older than, you know, than the normal parent age. And I just started to think, man, I don't want to just be another, you know, not that there's anything wrong with accepting a scholarship at Rutgers and playing for football and having you four years paid for and so forth. But you know what? I really wanted that academic challenge that people who look like me were told for so long, ah, you're not fit for that. You can't do the Ivy League, man. You know, and I said, nah, man, if you tell me no, and I didn't know the Lord back then, DP, but it was just the inspiration that fueled me. I the coach who was recruiting me.

And so I just decided to go play football at Brown. And I know that I mentioned that I want to compare Matt Ruhl and coach Tom Osborne. I want to do that. But this was where I was going to end up anyway in telling that story. I mean, again, Ivy League, you go to Brown. I mean, you're in the Hall of Fame. That takes so many things to go right in spite of all the things that had to go right.

in spite of all the things that had to go wrong in order for you to succeed. How did you reach that level of success on the field and academically at Brown University? We're not talking about you're just coasting in, you know, meatloaf state. You went to Brown and excelled academically and athletically in the aviose. What had to happen, coach, for that to happen? Well, you know, I learned a great deal about work ethic from my dad and my mom because my dad worked five jobs at one time. He wouldn't go on welfare. He swept a barbershop at night.

He was a mechanic during the day. He cut lawns. He shoveled snow and he put us all to work. And so he adopted me. He and his wife became my mom and dad. I saw the earnestness in them. And, you know, even though you're a goofy kid and you say stupid things, you do stupid things, you often gravitate back to what you see consistently over and over and over again.

And I think when it came down to make a college decision and when it came time to try to finish what I'd started and be on a mission mindset, that was it. But I made a lot of mistakes. And the best thing that happened to me in college DP was I found Jesus Christ is my saving Lord, my senior year. It was the day of the NFL draft and everything changed that day. Everything changed for me, man. And I appreciated all the hard work and all the lessons that I learned, D.P. But I realized that God had a, had a, had a way for me, a plan for me, his love for me, as he does you and everybody, Harrison, everybody in this world. But I received that love that day and it was the game changer for me. So yeah, I'm glad I went to Brown University, got great

academic training, loved the fact that I played football, ran a little track, had a chance to play in the NFL for just a very short period of time, had a chance to come back and coach at my alma mater of Brown University, start my coaching career there. But what really was the winner for me was that Jesus Christ found me, man. Let me ask you the question about what caused the need for that, right? Because people get lost in this. That you have to have that frictional moment. You have to have it in order for your ears to open.

My grandmother said, baby, you have big ears, but you're hard to hear. That I had to learn things the hard way in order for it to get past. Yeah. Right? Yeah. What was the thing? Was it that the NFL didn't? come sprinting to your door and welcoming you in.

It was going to be more difficult than you thought. What was it about that? All of the, yeah, all of that. That's a great question. You know what? I want to answer that question with an analogy. Okay. My high school basketball coach took an interest in me when I was in the sixth grade.

And he said, you know, young man, I've been watching you and you got potential for this, that, and the other. And he says, and I want you to coach you one day at the high school level here. but you know you got a lot to work on so he took me out to the basketball court and you know i had a ball but he said i want to give you a gift he had he said i've been watching you dribble the basketball and he says so here's the gift he took a pair of sunglasses and he cut out the lens and he and he put tape on the bottom of the glasses and he said put these on when you dribble and i said why he said because you're looking down when you dribble and you're missing a great ball game you're in the

ball game, but you're messing a great game. So he said, now you're going to learn that you have to dribble with your eyes up, and now you're going to see what you need to see. So going back to your question, why did I need to make that decision with Christ and what took place during Brown University time, football academics, what's next in life, the ups and downs, the difficulties of the NFL, the difficulties of, you know, expectations, racism. all the crazy stuff in this world. And you know what? You know, I was missing a good game.

I was missing what I was needing to see. I had my eyes down on this earth. Everything was comparison with that guy. Got to beat that guy out. Got to beat that guy out. Got to prove this to this guy. Got to do this. Got to do that.

You know what? My eyes needed to be up, DP, where Christ had laid his life down for me, died, rose from the dead, promised me a brand new life. And with that DP, that was the game changer. That's when I didn't need to compare myself to you anymore.

I didn't have to answer to that to Harrison anymore. I didn't have to prove this to these cronies over here and this person over there. I now had a new standard. I was on a new level, and that was the game changer for me. And here's the real win in this, right? Harrison, go with me here. Coach, how many players have you coached over your career? I don't know.

I've never counted. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds. Hundreds and thousands. Thousands probably. There's no way that he reaches, elevates, improves, loves on, all of those athletes. If it goes the way he wanted it to go to begin.

If Coach Brown had gotten into the NFL and things had gone the way, that in his mind, it was supposed to go. He never gets to Nebraska. He never becomes the coach that he is. He never becomes the leader of men that he is. He never affects and makes every community that he's in better.

He doesn't. He had to go through the friction. And because he went through the friction, he then is able to say, it's not about me. Let me help some other folks who now, listen, generationally,

they're think about there are husker families that carry the words of coach ron brown brown in their homes and if things had gone the way you thought they were going to go you never yeah happen what does it be careful what you wish for and all that well we always say have a plan for when it when you get what you want but you but you use a good word you use the word friction and you know i've been learning something about friction particularly in this cold weather out here. Of course, it's been nice those last few days. But you know, when it gets icy and cold up here,

you know, and the streets get glossy with ice and these people are slipping around, what's the best thing that can happen to that ice? It's when the snow plows come in and start digging and banging that ice, turning that glassy, smooth ice into a friction

of just, you know, powdered kind of chunky stuff. And friction finally, turns into traction. Friction is required. Yes. Friction is required. That's what you're saying. That friction was needed for the traction for the next thing. I have to go through things in my life that only I could go through in order for me to reach people that I need to reach. And if I don't get, if I don't hear knows from people, there are people in Lincoln, Nebraska who told me that I wasn't good enough to do this here. That friction is why we're here sitting here today. Yeah.

is because you have to go through things. And listen, there are people out there listening who are going through their friction. Right. And what I'm saying is, as you said, coach, get your eyes up. Get your eyes up. Stop looking at what you're looking at,

what you're focusing on. There's a greater thing for you. But as my father-in-law, my late great-father-in-law told me when he was sick, he told me this thing that I carry with me. And he says, listen, you're going to miss me when I'm gone.

But when you miss me, don't look forward and up because that's where everything good is. You had to go through yours and somebody has to, there has to be a thing, get your eyes up, forward and up so you can get to where you need to get to. That's good. And Coach Brown, you have led so many people in so many ways in moments of need. I don't think you realize that I think a big part of the celebration for me of having this conversation is I get to remind you how many people you've made better. how many situations, circumstances,

you've made better by what you've gone through, what you share, and how you love it. We're going to do that. We're going to throw the break. When we come back, we'll close out the one-on-one with Coach Brown, and we'll get back to the other question. I need for him to give me those common traits between Coach Matt Ruhl and Coach Tom Osmore.

You're listening to DP one-on-one, 937 the ticket. Watch live on Facebook, YouTube, or Twitch. You're listening to One-on-One with DP. on 93-7-the-ticket and the ticket-fm.com. You're listening to One-on-One with DP, sponsored by Mary Ellen's Food for the Soul, on 93-7-the-ticket and the ticket-fm.com. People miss when they hear One Nation under a group.

They miss. They miss. He said, funk is a happiness, is a joy. Oh, man, I remember those days now. One nation under a guru. Let me ask you. Let me ask you. So I think there's so much in what Coach Brown brings to the table.

And so much of why I was thrilled to have this conversation with him because it will lead to other conversations with more people. And I, in full disclosure, I have offered Coach Brown the opportunity. and I've actually begged him to make himself available one hour a week to just simply answer questions, have conversations, share joy with people because we need it. We need an hour. We need more of an hour, and I told him that honestly, but let's start with the hour to get it in, and there are questions in play, right?

And from the text line, folks are shouting about you, kind sir. uh, Mr. Brown is so grounded, very humbling. I can't complain what life has given me. My four kids are listening with him. Thank you.

And that's from Brian. He wanted us, he wanted you to know, uh, where he was. OG also thanking you, Coach Brown for all that you've done. Um,

greatest receivers coach ever. And he goes, he wants to know if the story, uh, the VJ story of not being taped up is true. Yeah, that's very true. Unfortunately.

Yeah. I wasn't very happy with VJ then, but a good lesson learned for him and all of us. Yeah, I think all of this is that you have the receipts for so many victories, right? Stories of victory, overcoming things that could get in your way and keeping you from your greatness. You've got the receipts on people. people who should not have succeeded and did, and people who should have succeeded and did. And I think you offering yourself to those stories and this fan base and these listeners out here, Coach Brown, I think it's going to be fantastic what you're about to introduce to Lincoln, Nebraska, on the airways.

Well, first of all, thanks for the opportunity, DP. But, you know, I just, again, I just want to be, the Bible says that we are, to be ambassadors for Christ. Not everybody really likes to hear that. Nobody wants to hear that all the time. But, you know, I got to be honest about who I am. I mean, we're not, I'm not here to, and none of us should be here just to gain the approval of men and woman.

I want to glorify the Lord. But in that process is giving out wisdom to people or whatever it is that God has gifted us, that we give it right back to the Lord, and he distributes it to the folks in our space. And so that's, I'm just simply doing that. That's really all I'm doing. I don't really, you know, I didn't get my degree in this. I know that. Well, look, you've got a master's degree in light. Like, listen, I, you know, I used to jokingly say that I had a master's degree in being a knucklehead. I had a major being silly and immature. And then I use those degrees to grow up. And that's kind of the deal. And we make our. mistakes or other people don't have to. And if we share that, like, absolutely. Just

remember, I'm a knucklehead. I'm blessed. Right? To exist and succeed beyond that. And if we can, anybody out there can't. The beauty of this thing is sitting with Harrison Arns

is that he now knows that he's ahead of the game if he just listens and then be he's active in what he's learning every day. Like he's in a room in a master's class of life every day if he's willing to pay attention. And he's going to far outgrow what we've done just because he's going to listen. Yeah.

It's wonderful, the poor and the young man. And yeah, I thank God for those opportunities even here at the station. If I ask you, so give you two minutes to tell us what common traits are shared between Coach Tom Osborne and coach Matt Rule. Well, they're both remarkably intelligent guys. Both have great leadership credentials. They seem to be able to both handle a whole lot at once, juggling a lot of balls at once. And they both have different styles.

But they seem to make it look easy. they have a plan. There's a grounding in them. You know, one thing about those guys, they could coach a lot of positions. You know, Matt Ruhl has coached a variety of positions as an assistant coach, and that really is very beneficial as a head coach. Coach Osborne could coach a lot of different positions as well. So I just think there's a lot of those commonalities. But I think the major commonality that I see, DP, is that,

Both of these men are men of the Lord. They love the Lord. They've been raised with a humble humility. They've had to work hard. But both of these men have decided that they wanted to follow Christ. And the Bible is something that's very important to them. They don't force it. They don't push it on people.

But I see the fruits of their. wisdom oozing out into the culture that they're around. They're men with, with compassion. They love kids. They love their families. They are so devoted to their family. Both of these guys. So, yeah, even though they're not totally the same guys, I see very much similarities.

I think, and it's been, I'm honored. I guess the other common alley to have is that both of them decided to hire me. How about that? Go on. That is a statement in itself. Listen, Coach Brown, you, you, sir, are an icon, and thank you for all that you do and all that you're about to do, what you're going to add to this thing. We will have an announcement soon about the relationship and partnership with Coach

Ron Brown and 97th ticket. It's going to be absolutely wonderful. Thank you, kind, sir, for your time. Your leadership tonight, I think the community is better just by sitting with us for an hour. Bless you, D.P. God bless you, man. Thank you. Don't go anywhere. More ticket weeknights coming up. 9-27 the ticket, the ticket, fm. Dot com.