1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - Coach Ron Brown - May 17th, 2024

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It's time to go one-on-one with D.P. Coming at you live from the Koppel Chevrolet GMC Studios. Here is your host, Derek Pearson, brought you by Mary Ellen's Food for the Soul, on 937 The Ticket and the Ticket FM.com. Live on a Friday. Yes, sir. Shout out to Austin Orman, Nick Sainert for the call. State title, congratulations to the North Texas.

Lightning's winning their state title just a few moments ago. There's one more state championship match tonight, ballgame tonight, and shout out to that. And we appreciate and want to celebrate the young man who made that call. They've been doing stellar work all week carrying the state championship tournament. And then shout out to the Omaha Supernovas. And I just have to say it that being on the journey and watching their process built from day one, the inaugural season of the Pro Women's Volleyball Federation,

the Federation itself in its organization, the inaugural season franchises who did the work, and again, this is the thing that didn't exist nine months ago. And to see them arrive, to have Omaha stand up, set the attendant standard and records

for the entire, for all of pro, indoor pro volleyball. And then to have it play out the way it played out in the final four on Wednesday with number four seed Grand Rapids team knock it off number one seed Atlanta and then the Supernova's losing sets one and two then coming back and reverse sweeping to win three state sets to get themselves in the championship they will play tomorrow at 330 at CHI Health Center we're expecting a record setting crowd record breaking crowd and if you want to be a part of it we have the freedom and

through the graciousness of it all that if you'd like to go see this championship match, hit us up on the text line. 402-465-5685. 4-6-4-6-8-5. If you want to be a part of what's happening in Omaha for the championship, please text in. A couple of things before we have this conversation. We appreciate folks who hang out.

and listen to these programs each day and have conversations. And I hear so much about these conversations when I leave the station. And it tells me that these conversations are important that they're landing. And tonight is another one of those conversations because one of my favorite people to have these conversations with joins us tonight. And it's the beginning of a series of conversations with the coach. And Ron Brown joins us on one-on-one tonight. And coach, I am forever grateful for your,

for your want and desire to show up. Well, it's an honor, D.P. It's always, I love the one-on-one with you. It's a great challenge. You're kind of weathered well in a variety of different sports. Just listening to you, share what's been taking place with the volleyball team in Omaha, that professional team. You know, it's exciting because we've seen the incredible explosion of,

women's sports, women's volleyball, fantastic athletes, well-trained athletes. But you know, to see the fans in Omaha, I'm not surprised, man. I mean, the people in this state, they love sports. And so anyhow,

anytime we can get on and do a one-on-one, I get the privilege of doing a one-on-one with DP over the vehicle of sports and life, it's a great privilege. It is spectacular in that you and I reached a common grammar. pretty quickly in that that old head and new space. Sometimes that technology and new movements, new voices, new verbiage kind of makes

people uncomfortable, but then we remember to get back to the base. I'm an OG, bro. Right, right? Like to get back to the base, right? That's right. That sometimes, you know, in order to simplify things and that coaching adage of when chaos happens, slow down and chaos ceases to exist. and we forget that because people train and scream faster more, faster more,

when quite frankly, sometimes the answer is be still. Yeah, you know, I was listening to Caitlin Clark after her first couple of WNBA games, challenges, obviously, because of the supreme talent in the WNBA and the, and also, I think, those athletes are jacked for her. I mean, you're getting up for the, you know, they're not just accepting her coming in and being a superstar right off the bat. But I loved her response. You know, her response was, you know what?

They're going to be learning experiences. And she said, you know, everything seems to be going fast right now in her brain, but the game's going to slow down at some point. And I think there is a valid foundational wisdom in that because when you are living a life based on foundation, then you're not in such a hurry. You do have a peace and a calm and a poise that comes over to you. It doesn't mean you're slower. It actually means the game seems slower because your brain now is able to pick up the speed that it needs to respond with quickness because you're basing things on a strong foundation. Yeah, that foundation. Yeah,

that foundational thing gets missed a lot of times in whatever facet, whatever tentacle sports takes you to, right? That the core of it has to be what it is that you're trying to do. Like, what are you trying to do? Who are you trying to be? Why are you trying to do it? And we get caught up in, okay, there's the money, there's the ego,

then there's the peripheral stuff, right, being popular. but ultimately it has to get back to being a good person, putting in good work, finishing good work. Yeah. Yeah, you know, you had Johnny Mitchell on some time ago. Yep. And, of course, I recruited Johnny and coach Johnny. He was like a son to me, and I miss him.

I love him. I remember one day we had a very interesting conversation while he was playing here. He only played here a couple of years, and then he declared for the NFL draft, first round pick. Great talent. But we talked about foundation one day. And Johnny was always wanting to be great. And I had, I've never had a problem with a guy who wants to be great. But I said, Johnny, before you take a building and build it real sky high, like those skyscrapers, what has to happen first?

You have to start digging down because the tall of the building, you need a deeper foundation. and going down first, deeper first, is painful. It's painful to be digging down in your life. And you know what? Sometimes when you're building a nice new tall building, it seems like it takes forever, and it doesn't seem like anything's happening because you're digging down below S-E-E-level, below C-level.

But then when that foundation is laid like it's supposed to, now you can build a very tall building on a great foundation, on a deep foundation. So I think that really applies to the, not only to sports, but the life in general. Yeah, I get, I always crunch up a little bit when I hear people say, Nebraska can't look back all the time. You can't look back all the time.

And I, I, I, I, I curl up a little bit because it tells me that you're not being respectful of the foundation, that you're not aware of the root, you're not giving, respect to the root. Any conditional part of the program now is just actually a seedling to the leaf, to the tree, to the branch, to the tree, to the root, to the earth and all the things that go along with it, that every program needs a coach Ron Brown around to just whisper in corners, pay attention to your foundation. Like, because that's how if you get out on the limb, and the limb starts to waver, what do you do? You don't go further out on the limb, you go back to the base of the tree. You have to go back to it in order to know, okay, this is what

works. This is where our strength is. This is where our foundation is. This is where you go when times of trouble. Yeah, I think that's a good word, DP. You know, I think sometimes we are, we can be very, we can get fearful of history. And yet we hear the saying history repeats itself. And the reason why it does so often is that there's nothing new under the sun. There's a lot of the same things that happen. No matter what the modern technology is or how life is different back 40, 50 years ago, a lot of the same processes are still happening,

certainly within the life of a human being. Joe Gibbs used to laugh because even back in the 90s, we talked about the evolution of football, the evolution of sports. And Joe Gibbs would just laugh every time and he'd take off his glasses and he's got this slight Carolina country drawl to it. And he goes, boy, we forget, this game's pretty simple. He goes, I don't care how big you are, how tough you think you are, but if you can't tackle, you can't throw and you can't run, you can't play.

Yeah. And that is a thing that in recruit, tell me that you can do the base thing exceptionally well all the time yeah i mean you know what's under the hood what's under the hood i mean the pretty car that sits in the yard uh looks like it can go fast furious it looks good it sounds good but but will it leave that driveway if if the isn't what it should be. It ain't going anywhere. It just looks good.

But what's under the hood is really important. And I think, you know, even back when I was a kid, DP, you know, it was the Dallas Cowboys versus the Green Bay Packers, the frozen tundra, and all the commentary from guys like Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry, you can look at that stuff and say, nah, those days, those guys, you couldn't coach like that anymore. You couldn't coach people like that anymore. Yes, you can't. In fact, I think there's a lot of wisdom in it, you know what I mean, about what's inside

that engine, your character. It still comes down to human effort and resiliency and to be thinking about your thinking and not allowing ridiculous thoughts to come into your brain where you lose your poise and you succumb to fear and all those things. The choking that we talk about, it happened 55 years ago as it happens today. Isn't that distraction? Isn't that distra? Like all of what you just described is,

so they were talking about, and it happens in the NBA playoffs, and it happens in the NHL playoffs, it happens in Major League Baseball, where now somebody reacts in a moment, and they just flip, they snap. And somebody says, well, it's difficult times. They're in a difficult spot.

And then ultimately it goes back to the organization, the coach, the leadership saying, when did we practice that? Right. When did we practice throwing a basketball at a fan? Like I've been at most of the practices. What day did we spend time saying, okay, first of all, it's okay for you to be distracted by a fan,

yelling at you in the back. Second of all, plan B, 1A is being frustrated, actually paying attention. Plan 1B for us as a team in his organization is to grab the closest basketball and throw it at a fan. Like you understand how absurd it is that we justify going outside of your space, your normal planned space. And I love it when coaches tell me, here's the plan.

Because the plan tells me you know how to get, one, you've identified where you are. It's that GPS. You've identified where you are, who you are, how you get there. You know what? Here's our record. This is the work we've put into to date. I think we're in a good spot. Ultimately, what we need to do is I want to play good football.

And in the football, good football, there's all these things that have to happen. Like we've got to rely on each other, trust each other. We've got to prepare. We've got to have our head together, our head together, hands together, hard together. And if we do that, we'll win the next game that we play. after that, we're still going to work towards that thing. I worry sometimes that fans will get caught up in the angst of it, the emotion of it, instead of the actual reason why it exists.

Good point. Really good point. And, you know, so when somebody picks up a basketball and decides to do something with it that they shouldn't do, isn't that isn't that a lack of, of emotional stability? I mean, isn't that a lack of, a lack of discipline over your emotions? And whether it was 100 years ago or today,

human beings are still prone to that. And they have to be taught that there's going to be an accountability to this. This is just, you cannot do that kind of thing. It's never, it's never been okay to do that. Right. But yet it's become okay to do that. Right. Like, I don't, coach, it's fascinating to me, right?

that players will adjust, fans will justify, because there are people that like chaos. They're people that prefer chaos. And it's never about the people who are actually involved in it. It's how they're receiving this game that's being played and what it means to them. But the reality is chaos is never, ever preferred in sports. We can try as coaches, we can sometimes try.

try to create it on an opponent by doing a thing that we've never done before, right? Maybe we'll put a player at a position that we haven't put them before. Maybe we're going to defend a thing differently than we have. But those are planned. People think of it as chaos. No, that's a plan. Chaos is when you go away from what you've prepared. And if you have a plan for when I get angry,

I have the conversation with me first. and we I can talk to coaches and know right away whether they're going to be successful because if they tell me that a thing went left if some chaos happened and they said I miss that

I have to handle that better I have to get us better I have to be prepared for that like I got you know what I should have gone to what we do because I have a rule for that situation if I'm the coach I say I have a rule for when chaos happens.

If you don't have a rule for it, chaos is going to take over. No doubt. You know, I go back to when I used to live in New York City, and I lived up in Washington Heights, Harlem. And I'm telling you, D.P., every night, it was chaos. There were gunshots going off, sirens, police cars, crowds, yelling. and here I am in my little apartment, and I had six locks on my door.

And the reason I had those locks on the door is like, look, this out here, this junk out here, that's chaotic. But it doesn't have to be that way in my space. I don't have to live that way. And so I think it's really important to use that analogy, that metaphor, is, you know, if you're in sports or whatever it is that you're doing, you have locks in your brain that say,

I don't let that stink and thought come into my brain. I'm not allowing the chaos to come into my life. Y'all can be chaotic. So I think the players that overcome chaos, it's not chaotic for them. The culture may be chaotic, but they're operating out of peace and poise and control and discipline and effort.

It doesn't phase them because they've got locks in a filter in their brain that says, I reject that, I receive this. That is ultimately, and again, And it might even be unfair from the outside end looking at coaches, because I'll say this about coaches, because players copy coaches. And that's the missed part in college athletics. Players copy coaches, especially coaches that they respect.

And if you find out, Ron Brown finds out that, you know what, there's an event going on down the street, and you got a big game coming up. And Coach Brown decides, you know what, I still have work to do. That's my priority. That's my focus. That that other chaos can't reach you. Now, it's going to find you because other people don't have your level of discipline

and they don't have your level of foundation. But what happens in good programs is that consistency at the top takes over. And that's why I have all the hope in the world for this Nebraska football program. It has you in it being foundational, being solid, being direction. That's how I think this plays out for this program. For Husker fans that are wondering, you know what? Is this going to get better? Yeah, I kind of think it is.

We're going to go to break. We'll come back. I'm going to ask Coach Brown about some other things that are sitting at the top of my head because he is in the recruiter's world and he is in those living rooms and in those corners and having conversations. I want to ask Coach Brown about some of those moments and what he uses as his playbook when he goes into the home of some of these recruits

and some of the conversations are being had. This is one-on-one on the ticket. You're listening to one-on-one with DP on 93-7-the-ticket and the ticketfm.com. On a happy Friday, and congratulations to everybody listening. Everything that you went through, all the struggles, stresses, questions that you had, none of them beat you. You made it to your weekend.

Congratulations. Yeah. You made it. Like, hey, man. Hey, say what you want. All right. That you're still in the pool of an elite brand and level of human being. Undefeated.

Undefeated. All the stuff that you've worried about, all the luggage that you've carried around, all the stuff, the burdens and problems that you are still undefeated. defeated. Absolutely. Today is day 22,574, Coach Brown. Is it? 22, 574.

You got it down, man. Hey, well, listen, because this was the only 22, 574 I was going to get it. I thought you were talking about the years that I've lived. Right? The days I've lived. Well, some of those days, I've lived in some places where the joke was that I've lived in some places that if I had terminal illness, I'd move there because every day seems like an eternity. There's some places where, you know, those days are long.

Yeah. But I have appreciation for it because it's not all guaranteed. And they're not all top level, but they're all purposeful. Because we learn every day. Like, we're all smarter today than we were yesterday. We went through some stuff yesterday. We saw some things yesterday that we've never seen before. We talk to people we've never talked to before.

We are smarter, stronger, better. We've never been older than we are right now and will never be as young again. But the key I think, and I agree with you, the key is the application of that experience, those nuggets, those deposits, it's the application of it and how we now will use them because otherwise they just rot. And so I think that's what I have to get myself thinking about each day.

How do I apply with wisdom the new experiences that I get hour by hour day by day? that that really is the thing in sports we practice to get better every day and people talk about well one percent better the one percent is in every repetition that's right like we complicate it but running a pattern against a set in any situation whether circumstance or otherwise is different than we've ever done it before we've never done it at the street strength level that we have currently. We're never running it at the speed. We're never running against the person that we've run it against in that time down and distance. It's never been done. So every time we go through it, ball placement, listen, we can catch a quarterback a hundred

times. Ball delivery is different. Different windows. They're going to throw through a different window in a different time table, different down the distance on the field, field awareness, all of those things, how you feel. This can be your first route of the drive. Or it could be your fifth route of the drive. And if you've run 10 bang eights, that 10th one is a problem. Everybody runs that first one good, that 10th one in the fourth quarter.

That's a different one. So the intelligence behind it is as a coach to tell people one rep at a time. Clear, clear, clear, clear everything that you've done, clear, everything, forget about it. All I need from you in this, route is the route right now because in that moment in the fourth quarter versus Michigan is different than in the first quarter against U-Tap they're not the same that's right

the thinking the process is the same what we want is the execution to be the same right that you're aware you know I've always again there's a lot of wisdom more you just said and I there's a verse, it really hits me, DP. It's Proverbs 2229. And it says, do you see a man who's diligent in his work? That man will not stand before average men. He will stand before kings. That's a basic principle that God has given us. And it goes back to the word diligence, which means exercising a skill set over and over and over and over and over. It's the picture of Kobe Bryant taking a thousand shots, a thousand three, a thousand three point, uh, shots per a day, you know, 500 before school, 500 after school. It's the, it's the over and over piece,

the repetition. And it's not just, uh, I chalked it up. These are the numbers I did. It's the quality of each rep. It's the diligence within each rep. So it isn't just the quantity. It's the quality. And I think that's a great lesson for young kids. That's, One of my favorite lessons for middle school kids, because a lot of the parents want instant success. They want guarantees. And if my kid's not doing this and he's not here, then he won't get a chance for this. I think, you know, if you could eliminate one thing out of a kid's of life, it would be laziness. Lasiness goes away, flies away, and now there's a diligence in that young man or young lady.

and they are working skill sets with over and over and over again with the right habit. It's not just practice makes perfect. It's perfect practice makes perfect. I think that when and one of my favorite coaching spaces was in the Utah coaching space when Bill Bush was there with Urban Meyer and Dan Mullen and Charlie Strong and they have and Brian Johnson and they had some Kyle Whittingham, they had some guys. And their thing was

they almost pushed the imperfection as the key because it allowed humanity. It allowed, you know what? Foot placement. Because if you go quiet on an effort,

maybe the worst thing you can do to a perfect rep is to call it a perfect rep because you've changed anything that can be work for from there. Good point. Right? Like you can like, good point.

Great. Like, oh, perfect, perfect. Repeat? How do you define? It's really, it's really perfecting, isn't it? Mm-hmm. It isn't like we've finally arrived at the perfect thing. It's the perfecting.

How do you, it's an action verb. How do you pursue that? Is everything. Right. Everything. It would be easy for me to, to, walk into this radio station and say that I'm prepared as well as I can. But that's disingenuous to you because it means we're not actually having a conversation.

I can't hear you if I'm working on a question. I can't appreciate. I can't even receive it. Yeah. You know, I used to hang out with Urban, Urban Meyer, years ago. and he was an assistant coach at Notre Dame. And so while I was here at Nebraska, you know, back in the day, we were running option offense.

And I was coaching the wide receivers in the tight ends, and Urban was coaching the wide receivers at Notre Dame, and Lou Holtz wanted to run an option offense. So we would get together and just share our notes and films and so forth. And, you know, it's not only the perfecting of a craft, but it's getting kids to do that. something that the world doesn't herald. In other words, you're not going to make an All-American team if you're wide receivers

are good blockers. But you're going to help them win some championships now. Let me tell you. But you won't have the stats to be an All-American. But will your kids sacrifice things like that so for the benefit of the team? And how do you as a coach take that approach? Delivering the message is one of the most vital things. adults, coaches, mentors, teachers, parents, partners in life do.

Delivering the message. Receiving it is the sign that you are exceptional on the other side. And it's vital, like the best people receive information. They receive the message. But delivering the message is important because you have to be present. I've got to know that how Ron Brown hears, how he feels, how he sees. Otherwise, I'm just screaming into the vacuum. And coaches have to explain that, that, listen, I need for you to hear me right now.

A coach that uses those words is purposeful. Like that is the mission part. Listen, telling a young person, I can. need for you. Ben has had to deal with me on the several times, right? That I told Ben that that what he wants to perfect in his life, what he wants to excel at, that I'm going to help him with. But I need for him to hear me. That's a good word. Right. That's a good word because and here's the other thing. I think coach rule has done a really good job with our football team this way. Um, not to fear, not to fear the mistake or the failure because of what maybe others might say.

I think that's so important, man. And, you know, so it's a proper reward and a proper rebuke. And in that process, expose. Expose our weaknesses. Do not be afraid Ron Brown to expose your own weakness. Don't get all butt hurt because somebody said, hey, you need to improve a little bit in this or that. because we wanted to take on that ego. It's only EGO, but it's a much bigger.

It's a much bigger word than that, right? I mean, it's hard to contain that little word. But really, we've got to slice and dice that thing up, man. We've got to get rid of that ego. It's got to become even a shorter word for us. Right. Well, we know the word for it. I.

We know, like, we know it. We know it. And I've worked on this thing that I understand. I have to say we, us, our. more than I say I and mine. As a coach I had to learn it, as a husband I had to learn it, as a dad had to learn it as a teacher. And in conversation, and Ben and I had this conversation just last week. And I said, Ben, I'm going to give you some things that I'd like to see from you so that we can get better at what we do.

Ben, I'm going to prompt you. And I know this is a win. the thrill of victory back at it he's so hilarious he's so hilarious this young man had never watched the wide world of sports oh no okay that was a long time ago bro

you were a little boy then but that I was still a grown man but that was how coach that was where my love for this started that I remember Jim McKay in Munich. Yep.

And it had to be explained to me what was happening at the Munich Olympics. It had to be explained to me what was happening with the basketball team. It had to be explained to me why people were angry at sports. And it helped me understand for me to say,

I never want to be that. And it was necessary. Absolutely. necessary. We're toward the break. One final second with Coach Ron Brown, Brown, before we hand it back to the baseball guys in good old fashion, good old downtown Omaha,

Nebraska. We'll be right back. You're listening to one-on-one with DP. Sponsored by Mary Ellen's Food for the Soul on 93-7 the ticket and the ticket FM.com. Man, if we could get this right, if we could ever get on the same group. One nation under a group. If we could

Just get under one group. Man, like a good thing in space. We were talking about Dave Zinkoff, the 76ers announcer back in the day. Oh, yeah. Who brought out in the great Julius Irving. Yes. We missed so much of the historical remembrances, right?

No doubt. Like we know where we were. I asked Ben, what sports moments? could he tell me where he was when they happened? What are those iconic moments? So Coach Brown, I ask you, what are two iconic sports moments where you know where you were and what you're doing?

I know the easy answers would be, hey, winning titles, yeah. I'll leave Nebraska out of it. Okay. Sports moments where you remember where you were and who you were with. All right. So I remember watching. I don't know if many people were.

remember this, but some of the boys I grew up with you. It was Walt Frazier, the New York Knicks back in the day, might have been probably the 70s, early 70s, against a rookie from Cal for the bullets named Phil Schneer. I look alike. They look like each other. You remember that? Phil Schneer is my family.

Is he? Phil Schenair, we would travel to Iceland together. Really? Yeah, Phil, look, man. All right, now, so this one doesn't play out on Phil Schneer very well. Did you remember in one game, Phil Sheenier, you know, Frazier was a great defensive player. Yes, he was. Arguably one of the greatest defensive guards in the history of the national basketball.

Top five easily said fact. And great offensive player, just a great player. But Schneer, young rookie comes in here and he's trying to, you know, dib and damn talk noise. So during the course of a game, something happened where he turns around and punches Frazier. Now you expect retaliation now. No retaliation from Frazier. You know what Frazier does? He kind of just holds his chin a little bit, walks around, just kind of puts a towel over his face,

and doesn't say anything back to Chenier. And so they stopped it. I think there were probably a couple technicals or something. Sheenier was not removed from the game, but here's what happens. Walt Frazier, Clyde Frazier, goes on, and he just tells the Busher and Bradley and Willis and all those guys. He said, hey, just give me the ball. He just said one word. He just took the ball and he scored like eight straight times on Sheneer

and the whole place went nuts. That has, like, but that's the response. Oh, man, that was a great response. Like we were talking about foundation, character, not letting chaos take over. Yes, right? Exactly. And the funny thing about the story is Phil Sheneer is the least likely punch a dude

in the face guy in the history of the NBA. Phil Sheenere is, first of all, again, Ben, knowledge right here. Go and find pictures. One of Walt Clyde Fraser, who is the most stylish player. I know Walt, I know the player Walt Frazier, yeah. Him as a cultural icon. The best dresser in the league. Calvin Murphy will debate that.

But it was Clyde. Yeah, I know, Walt Frazier. Clyde the glide. But Phil Schneer's jumper. was the silkiest smooth thing. Smooth, smooth. Like, you know, when you hear people say, like butter, yeah, that was Phil Sheenere's jumper. I got research to do.

Yep. Give me one more sports moment that you remember where you were and who you watched. Oh, well, let me see if I can come up with another sport here, DP. All right. This one, this one wasn't anything super special. in terms of the performance of the play, but I was in Fenway Park as a kid. Our Little League Baseball team went to Fenway Park

to watch the Yankees versus the Red Sox in the late 1960s. And I saw an icon take his last swing as a Yankee in Fenway Park. And he filed out. I was sitting in the left field bleachers near the wall, near the big wall there, the green monster. My boys and I, we were all sitting up in there, and this guy gets up and he falls out. His name, Mickey Mantle. Mickey Mantle.

Mickey Mantle, man. You know, so that, I remember that. Now, there's many, many others, but my brain, you caught me off guard. Well, this is what the beauty of sports does. This is what, and it's beyond that because we have our political moments where we remember where we were, like 9-11. I was in D.C. So I can, I remember my mother calling me, calling me. And so, baby, do you have, when your mom calls you early in the morning, there's

a thing, baby, you get your TV on. No, mom, turn TV on. Those words can only be said in her voice because 9-11 was happening in D.C. And it was going to change my life. And I can only hear it in my mom's voice. I can only hear Jim McKay describing the 72 Olympics and saying there are none left describing that there were there were victims there are none left I can only hear Howard CoSell down goes Frasia I can only there's certain things that

sports does that it allows moments and one of these shows, we're just going to let the listeners call and tell you their favorite moments that you were involved in. That's cool. Because when they describe those championships, when they describe the players that you know who them as greater people than players. But we're going to spend the whole show just having the listeners tell you

moments that make you, you. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah, that would be fun. That would be that. Listen, we've said it a hundred times. I'll keep saying it. I'm never going to have a complete conversation with Coach Ron Brown because there are too many

tentacles of greatness that we need to get to. There are too many points that I could never have a conversation you that was complete because you are an endless fountain of information and direction and it's necessary. Well, I'm honored. But, you know, there are seemingly endless things to talk about. And you know what I love? I love that sports is the conduit of the conversation. It gets to walls and it gets to the corners.

Because it takes you beyond just sports. Like you mentioned 9-11. Now we're looking at, you know, now we're looking at the whole world, man. We're looking at terrorism. We're looking at military. We're looking at broken hearts. I mean, just when you even mentioned it, I remember living in New York City,

looking down the Hudson River on a sunny day, I could see the Twin Towers every day standing up there. Here I am now on 9-11, 2001, in here in Lincoln, Nebraska, looking at TV, seeing those buildings crumble down, man. I'm just thinking, wow, but that's what you just did in just a quick flash of a time. It brought out all kinds of things.

kinds of things. Sport does that. That's why this station exists. Coach Ron Brown, you and I can. Thank you, my friend. Greatly appreciate it.

We'll do it again next week. Stay tuned. State baseball championship. Nick Sainert, Austin, Orman, in Omaha, they were bringing you to the call. Don't go anywhere.

It's going to be a fantastic baseball. Friday night. And then Saturday, Omaha, Nebraska, Supernovas for the chip. And a million dollars. Love you, AD. Love you, AD.

Thank you.