1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - Dave Turcotte / 2024 Paris Olympics Basketball / Canada's Only Silver Medal - June 14th, 2024

Episode Date: June 13, 2024

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It's time to go one-on-one with DP. Coming at you live from the couple Chevrolet GMC Studios. Here is your host, Derek Pearson, brought you by Mary Ellen's Food for the Soul on 93-7 the ticket and the ticketfm.com. Welcome to it on a Wednesday, 6 p.m. local time. It's a hot one, but the breeze is making the trees dance outside the picture window. the ticket. Makes me feel a little bit better. 402, 464. 565 is the Sartre-Haman text line, but on the Allo V-V-V-I-P line. Let's bring him in. He's on the stream. You can follow on Facebook, YouTube, X, and Channel 961 on Allo.

Let's bring him in. Dave Turkkai joins us for one-on-one. Turk, what's happening, brother? Great to be back. Thanks for having me. Honored to be here, man. it's a joy listen man we look forward to it here's the thing you're i can tell you how you know you're winning when austin ormond and harrison arns both get excited about the fact that you're going to be on is a sign that you have landed in lincoln nebraska and it's the thing that matters harrison do i lie no absolutely what i love about harrison very clearly he has low expectations for the guest me enough that he goes, you know what, that's good radio. That's enough for us. Like,

that's the win. If we're just entertaining Harrison, Austin, and Ben, we've won. Like, we've captured the necessary audience. That's awesome. You know, for me personally, I just like talking about relevant stuff that matters, you know, and, and you guys, you guys cover a broad swath of, you know, sports, human interest, life, kids, community, things that matter. And, you know, I think it's a great way to spend our time. And I'm, like I said, honor to be a part of the discussion. And if I can add anything to it and bring value to it, then that's fantastic for me. And I will always be available for that. I want to get into it because I want to start with the NBA playoffs. And there's so many different talking points, style of play, young players,

wearing terror on the body, great pairs, great trios. But I want to ask your opinion on Drew Holiday because I think he is the thing that we've missed in all of this conversation. This is a guy that's going to be on the Olympic team. Now, Jonathan Brown and Tatum, listen, we talk about him, but Brown's not on the Olympic team.

Drew Holliday is on the Olympic team. What does Holiday do as a player and why is it necessary in today's NBA that it's three deep at a minimum, maybe four? We can't play the game the way it used to be played. Right, right. Well, first of all, we've got to remember

how the NBA rules are set up, right? And how it's different from the international game. And like I always say this, no disrespect to the NBA game. I love the NBA game. But, you know, the NBA game is the WWE of the basketball world. It's like, well, we're going to make the rules so that we want lots of fast breaks. We want lots of dunks. We want lots of one-on-one.

We want to see guys doing the Kyrie crazy, the sham god, crazy pullover stuff, right? that's great entertainment, but that's not the purest form of basketball. That's why I think when you see the American media audience, in fact, D.P., you probably know this better than anyone. There's a whole swath of your listeners that are like, I don't even watch the NBA. I just want to watch college. I'll watch the NCAA tournament because that's real basketball, right? There's that constituent group of watchers.

And then there's the NBA people that more want the entertainment value of, I want to see what it's like when LeBron does something crazy and dunks over three guys. that entertainment value is more where the NBA goes, right? Now, here's the twist. And I mentioned the sham god on purpose, by the way, because it's so funny how American media dominates the conversation around the NBA and the progression of the game to ABA, NBA, and beyond as an entertainment product. And you always hear people talking about, hey, what's the big dialogue now between the NBA and the WNBA?

Oh, well, finally the WNBA has a great product that they're putting on TV that we can all watch and you're getting millions as a product, right? So to basketball purists, I don't give a crap if it's a good product for you to watch on TV. I want to watch the nuance of the game. You got remember who I am, DP, and guys like me, I'm the guy that when Steph Curry comes to play in Salt Lake where I would go to the game with the jazz, I could care less about the game. I'm there four hours early. I want to see Steph's Curry setup, how he prepares his footwork, how he becomes great. The thing that he does every I get into the nerdiness of the beauty of the game at its most granular level, right? The purest form of loving the game, which is what we all tried to do to perfect our craft.

So now switch over to what the Olympics is. Fiba, the Olympic International game, where I did not make the NBA for more than that long. And so I'm not an NBA player. I don't view myself as an NBA player. I didn't qualify for that. But the truth is, is the international game is different and more beautiful a lot of ways. It sort of marries the hybrid of more elite players, but like college rules. You can do like, you know what? You got Michael Jordan in the game. Great. We'll just zone them and put two guys on him. And we're going to make Scotty Pippen make a mid-range jumper all day long to beat you. I don't know if that's good television or not. Okay. But the fact is that's great basketball to basically say if you're a pro and you're

playing for your country, I don't care what you do to defend. I don't care how you scheme or strategize. If you're a pro, you can do everything. If I got to go to the rack, I go to the rack. If I got to defend, I defend. Now here's, let's go right back to your question on Drew Holiday and why he's there. In the international game, unlike the NBA, it's more about, like in the NBA, they'll always tell you, got to have the big three, right? Big twos, I don't even know if there's been a big two that's won. But, you know, Jordan, Pippin, you know, Rodman, right? Utah lost. Why? I think they had a big two and a half.

They just didn't have that extra five power where they played. So who, you know, Golden State, you know, you got, you know, their big three with, you know, with my favorite players with, of course, Steph and Clay, you know, and so, you know, all that stuff was there. Now, in the international team, everybody can't be their best score. So if you just put five or 12 guys on a team and they're all the leading scores in the league, well, who are the guys that, like, who are that guys that, you know, that one will defend my primary job? Like, by the way, can I tell you, I say this every year.

Drew Holiday is the moat. Mike Conley, Drew Holiday, two most underrated players in the league. I would say that the last three years, you know, okay, T-Wolves without Mike Connolly are not making their run in the playoffs, period. at the end, right? Now, Drew is that beautiful player that is so unselfish. He will defend like a pit bull. Okay. Like, you know, I remember playing. There are certain guys that guard you DP where it's like, you're like, oh, no, not this dude. He is going to be right there in my grill. Like, I will never get to relax for one moment. So you got to have that guy number one from a purely defensive perspective, right now someone like anthony edwards by the way who was the big star in the last u s a team that

happened to lose to can't be that pit bull dog defender and your primary score the only guy that's ever been able to do that in the history of the universe is jordan and no one else okay so i think if i was looking at team usa saying look we can't have 12 guys that are shoot first guys so we're you know building a great team for an Olympics is not saying, and this is where Canada made mistakes in the past, by the way, when building our roster, hey, we're just going to take all the guys with the highest scoring average and say they're the best players, there's our team.

Uh-uh. Like, you've got to have that guy. Look, I'm sorry, people don't like Draymond Green. Boy, would I love to play with Draymond Green on my team? Okay. Rebound, defend. But, like, so Drew Holiday, if you watch this next game tonight, whenever it is. He will get that ball. That ball will be either he'll be making a play himself

or he is out of his hands and gone to the next right play. So he's a glue guy. He moves the ball and creates fluidity. He's also a vicious defender in the backcourt. So when you think about matching up against Canada, well, who are the teams that beat you in the world championships? Canada. So who's going to guard Jamal Murray and who's going to guard Shea Gilgis? Probably Drew Holley is one of the best guys in the world. Now look at Canada. You know who we got this, that guy? Lucas Dort from OKC. Vicious on the, you got to have somebody who's going to take out the best player on the other team, right? So that's why he's on the team. You have to build chemistry. Not everybody

can be fighting for shots because he's a guy that every scorer is going to love because they know I'm not losing shots because of Drew Holiday. And you know what? When I screw up and make that stupid play, he's the defender that's got my back. So I love Drew Holiday. I love Drew Holiday. I Again, he and Mike Colony, two underrated players, but he absolutely should be on the team. He plays a role, like a Draymond Green type guy, Drew Holiday, who's that third guy, but man, he does so many.

How many times in this playoffs with the Celtics have you seen the game over, Drew Holiday makes, again, in fact, was it, I forget who it was, he made, you know, two or three steals, game over. They're coming down, they got the ball. He defense, locks up, turnover, steal, game over. So there are guys that make winning, shots to win games, Drew Holiday makes defensive plays that just shut the door. You will not pass game over. And I love that guy for his game and the way he plays in his unselfish nature.

And you've got to have those guys on your team. So short question, long answer, but I'm a big fan of Drew Holiday. Turk, if you had to build a team and you wanted to match a style of play. And I often say that coaches will develop a team to play in their person, their persona. So if you were going to create a team, one, what would that personality be? And then two, who would the players be? If I asked you to pick 10 players for your dream team, any country, any style of play. I'll tell you right now.

The greatest international player of all time so far is Drazen Petrovich. Okay. That dude was scoring 50 a game. And by the way, Drazen Petrov, I'm going to say this right now for the record. he did the sham god to me the exact sham god in like 1983 you know 10 years before like and you're around long enough to know when he was playing for the nets that dude was not scared of Jordan he went up there and he did work he was dropping big numbers in the league so let me get let me really answer your question though this is the thing about the international game and it's funny i talked to my wife

about this the other day the influence of soccer on the international players is amazing. And by the way, Steve Nash, my boy, right? He's my guy that, you know, he was a kid when he played with me, but he is now, he is now the king of all things basketball in Canada, as he should be, right? And the thing about Steve was Steve's entire family. I think his brother was a professional soccer player. His dad was a soccer coach. He grew up in a soccer culture, I think in South Africa at some point, playing soccer, came to Canada as a soccer player and switch to basketball. Soccer players have a unique ability because of the entire nature of that game, like hockey players, to play in space. That famous saying from Wayne Gretzky,

right, I'm not going where the puck is. I'm going where the puck is going to be. And soccer players play that way in space. That's more of the Fiba game. So that's why one of, I'm sure, your favorite teams of all time, San Antonio Spurs, Mono Ginoble, Tony Parker, Matt Scola, Like think about the guys on that San Antonio team. You think who are these nobodies? But that ball just moved beautifully. And Pop had that thing going. Everybody, the Golden State Steve Kerr does not happen without San Antonio Spurs Greg Popovich.

Right. It's the Euro influence of how to play without the ball. And that's why, you know, when I think of still what I think the highest basketball IQ game of all time is still Clay Thompson, 43 points, six dribbles. Okay? Highest basketball like you. Okay, so that's the European game. Playing without the ball, playing in space.

The Rucker Park, New York, like dribble, dribble, dribble, Kyrie one-on-one, I'm going to show you up and laugh at you and talk trash. Yeah, that's great for a street game. That's great for entertainment. That's great for some things. But in an international game, and here's the key thing to go back to answering your question, it is a three-point game first in Europe. I love the fact that LeBron is going to play because you know why?

I'll take LeBron shooting threes as the primary form of his offense. So international teams will pack in and say, Team USA, you're going to have to get 60% of your offense from three-point shooting. And you're all going to look there at each other and pretend who's going to take turns playing one-on-one and out-dominate teams physically. That doesn't happen anymore. Okay, like look at the euros. I mean, I'm sorry, but probably half of the best players in the league right now are all foreigners.

Yeah. Yon Gilgas, Canada. You got Luca. You got, who is the MVP? Donchage. But then you got like a, I'm sorry, I'm range. You got Yoker. Yolker.

You got. Yeah. Joe L.M.B. Yeah. For the Pacers. Played for the Raptors. 6-9 forward. Yeah, he's on the...

Pascal Seacquhart. Pascal Seacum, Janus, onto the gumpo. Right. Look at all these guys. And what they all do is kids, played soccer. And the thing is, so the one thing about the Eurteen game, it's more about ball, like you always watch it. Ball movement, ball movement, ball movement, ball movement,

getting it moving around fast, fast, fast, fast pace. And then comes the shot. The shot's never on the first pass, rarely unless it's a fast break. The shot, which they want to be a three, 60% of the time, is on the fourth or the fifth pass. USA basketball is all about, I'm going to get the ball. Like, it's literally like we take turn. Like, why did the clippers fail for so many years?

Paul George, when I look at like Paul George and, you know, and Kauai, love them both as players. But the reason I struggle with them from a coaching and a strategic perspective is all they did was take turns playing. Okay, your turn, my turn. Your turn, my turn. Like, that's not team basketball, right? It's great individual basketball, which is unparalleled. So if I was picking a team, the first thing I'd look for is nobody's going to be on my international team that's shooting less than 40% from three. So Damian Lillard, I'm sorry, it may be Dame time. And my pet peeve in shooting as a shooter myself, he's a high volume shooter.

That just means he can't shoot. I'm sorry, if you need 38 shots to make 14 threes, you can't shoot. And you shouldn't be shooting. Okay. Now, there are a lot of guys that we, we have mutual friends, by the way. We played ball with in Utah and other play that you know that I played with. Yeah, can they get hot and hit four or five in a row? Of course they can. Those guys are out there. But they'll miss nine before that happens, right? So who are the guys that can shoot 40%, 43, 44, 45, no matter what from the international three, right? Well, that cuts your team down. So the fact that Clay, I would have Clay Thompson on this.

this team without question. Yeah. To me, the most fearsome three players for USA, how do you guard this from the free point line? Steph, Clay, KD. What the hell are you going to do with that? That seemed to be the thing that in my mind, as you build this, you head into the Olympics,

and you have concerns. You have concerns because the international play is catching up and the international rules are different. They are different. So that is a thing. That's a big part of having you on each week is that you'll remind us of the international game. You'll remind us of what other places are doing. I want to talk about Canada. But Turk, I want to go to break and when we come back, I want to ask you about Caitlin Clark.

I want to ask you about the Olympics and what the mission should be. and then what it is. We'll get all of that from Turk here on one-on-one, 93-7 the ticket. You're listening to One-on-One-on-one with DP, sponsored by Mary Ellen's Food for the Soul, on 93-7 The Ticket and The Ticket FM.com. One-on-one with Dave Turk got. Turk, we mentioned the Olympics and what's happening. I want to ask you your thoughts on Caitlin Clark and the Olympic issue.

with her not being on the Olympic team. And then the importance of brand and expanding the game. So please tell me how this lays out for you. Three areas or three elements here. And I'll go what I think first and foremost. The Olympics, from a competitor perspective, If I'm the USA basketball, whoever's managing the team, I know it's not Grant Hill, but whoever's managing USA basketball women's roster, wherever that is, I need to field the

very best team for the international game. And I think the USA women's team made a mistake because for the exact same reason that we talked about Drew Holiday, right, you need more. I'm hearing car. I'm hearing on the men's team. So like I said, Steph, Clay, KD lights out, right? Look at the women's team. Sabrina is great.

Kelsey Plum is great. You've got a lot of great players, but the second most three is made in the WNBA, Caitlin Clark. Sabrina's number five. And the thing about Caitlin Clark that she does from a three, and that's the thing, it's just a different game, right?

Three point shooting is astronomically more important in FBA and international basketball than it is in the WNBA and the NBA, because the rules favor a more up and down. and go to the basket style of play, individual play in the NBA and WNBA. So from the pure perspective of, if I was to say to you, I think, I don't know if you would agree or not, but on the U.S. Olympic team, the Canadian Olympic team, every Olympic team has to say, I need the best probably four or five three-point shooters that are available in my country to be on the Olympic team just to feel the best.

best team. So if we just keep it to that, the style of play requires more shooting. Okay. Now, here's the difference. USA basketball for a long, long time, like up until 1988 in my Olympics, my second one, where the USA didn't meddle, they came fourth or fifth. I think USA came fourth and we came sixth. There was something like that, right? Same thing. We're just going to show in with big, long, athletic, tall. We're going to play an up and down USA style of game and they got thrashed by Yugoslavia and Lithuania, I think, or Russia back then, okay? Because they play that game.

The shot's not coming on the second or the third pass. It's coming on the fourth or fifth pass and they're playing that open space, San Antonio's 90-style move and cut and free. And then it's like wide open three money. They played for the three as the predominant focal point for the offense. That's the way the international game has played, and that's why the USA has been vulnerable. because the NBA style play, it translates, but it doesn't translate directly. It's kind of like the difference between speaking Italian and Spanish.

You can figure some stuff out, but it's not all the way over, right? Now, so that's issue one. So I think they made a mistake purely from the perspective of, again, they put together these are the top 10, 12 all-star players in the WNBA today based on the WNBA style of play. That's great. Those are the 12 best players in the WNBA. Make no mistake the way that game has played. It's a mistake to leave her and anyone else off the team.

I think they're too light on three-point shooting. And I'm sorry to everybody in the WNBA, but Caitlin Clark is the only female shooter on the planet that does the Steph Curry-Steine to stuff. Like Caitlin Clark does stuff that you don't even see in the men's game. Okay? And the way that she can pull a defense, you have to guard her so far away from the back.

basket. No one else does that. So in the international game, where they will pack it in the lane and they will zone and they will force you to shoot the fact that the deeper you can shoot, the more open. That's what you have to have to open up so that those other great players can make great plays to win, you know, to play near the basket and do that other kind of, you know, play. So I think from a purely strategic perspective and recognizing the style of play and how it's slightly nuanced differently. You need more three-point shooting. I think she's the most prolific three-point shooter next to Sabrina.

I love Sabrina, by the way. I think she's still more effective right now, but she's also playing on a better team and she's got more support. She gets more open looks. Every shot that Caitlin takes is pressured because she's on a crappy team, right? That's a whole different scenario. But on the U.S. Olympic team, it's a mistake not to have at least one or two more people who the three-point shot is their first shot.

That's what they're looking for. That's how they play. You got to have that. So that's a mistake. Now, on the second part, marketing, branding, growing the game. Yeah, I mean, obviously, Caitlin's the biggest name on earth right now in women's basketball, much to the chagrin, probably have a lot of people in the league that feel like, hey, what's going on? But when their paychecks go up, they'll all be happy to thank her for it, right?

But the reality is, though, is that she does have that effect. But I do think, though, and this is what I really like. For the record, I'm a huge fan of Angel Reese. For the record, you know, I just saw a great thing, and I watched more game tape on, you know, is it not Asia Wilson? Who's the, I think she plays for the AC. She's clearly the dominant best player in the WNBA right now.

No, it's Asia. That's Asia Wilson. And I just watch her and go, she is legit. Yeah. The bottom line is she's got eyeball because whether you like it or not, in terms of growing the game. But what does Asia Wilson do that you can't see or have never seen in the men's game.

Nothing. Like KD. Asia Wilson. I view those as kind of, I love her mid-range game. That little turnaround she's got, she gets in the lane. She's phenomenal. But KD does all that, right? And so that's where Caitlin got the eyeballs on her. But now we get to appreciate her.

And so Caitlin is this big draw to grow the game because she is doing things that you can watch Caitlin play and see stuff that you will not see. between the Celtics and the maps tonight or whenever they're playing. You'll see stuff with her that you don't get to see, right? And that's why she's got the eyeballs. If she was just a really, like Kelsey Plum, right, who was a phenomenal score, had enormous numbers,

but you're not going to see anything with Kelsey Plum that you haven't seen that you can't seen it in the NBA. So that was the difference. So on that part of it, I kind of look at it from the product perspective and say, I don't think the Olympics, that's all of what I just said is true for the WNBA as a TV product. I don't think that has anything to do with the Olympics. The Olympics is about fielding the best team.

So on your third point of, you know, so in terms of fielding the best team, point one, it's a mistake. It's not just her. I think they're missing two, like if you were to say, who are the top five three-point shooters in the WNBA right now, at least three or four of those should be on this team. to compliment the other players, right? That's an interesting thing, Turk,

that the WMBA is a big woman game. It now is a post-up game. Yeah, you have the exceptional shooters, but for the most part, how they grind from night to night for the league and how they're taught to play. But I'll ask this, is the fact that Caitlin didn't try out,

that she went from a college season under high watch to postseason with a high watch, immediately into carrying the WMBA and not had access to the international game with the players from Team USA. Well, Team USA has always had the luxury of so much talent. Like, you don't try out for the USA team. You get appointed. Like, like, the men's team's no different, right? Yeah. Here we're going to train it. It's more like we're going to talk, hey, LeBron, do us a favor. Come, come play for your country. Can we say that you're in? Yeah, I'm in. You know, it's different. You're appointed. There's no trial process. But I, but I, but you got to realize what's going to happen. There's no question I think the women. If you look at the men's game and the women's game, would you agree with me that the disparity and talent between and let's use Canada, USA is a perfect example. I think, I think there's only five or six Canadians that are.

starters in the WNBA, right? Yep. You know, Kea nurses, you know, there's the one everybody knows and there's like there's another one. I forget, I apologize, I'm not, I'm brain part. Harrison will pull it up. Yeah, but there's like, if you say Canadians in the WNBA, five or six names come up. But if you say Canadian men in the NBA, 30 names come up, right? And we'll probably have lottery picks again. Like, if you look at the NBA draft, there's been a Canadian in the lottery, R.J. Barrett, Tony Bennett, Jamal Murray, you know, Andrew Wiggins. We've had number one picks, like number three picks. Zach Edie's going to probably, by the way, I think Zach Edie should be on the Canadian team because here's what I will tell you,

those Euros are going to bring some big old 350 pound guys in the middle that are going to give an international foul on the first guy that comes through the lane. Hey, I'll tell you right now. You want to talk bad boys? A guy foules, a guy foules. that plays behind the iron curtain, that dude knows what that dude grew up in a house that was leveled by an explosion last year and his dad's working in a coal mine unless they win a gold medal. You're going to get some hard fouls with big, big dudes. So you've got to be able to counter that, right? So of course the USA guys are great and they're phenomenal. And yeah, USA is always the favorite in the Olympics still. But if you compare even just Canadian men, USA, we've got 12 NBA players too.

France is going to start five NBA players, right? Spain will, okay? You know, you're going to have five or six teams that are all in Germany will. Schroeder, you know, like, you're going to have teams that have full starting fives of NBA players. Now compare that to the women. Canada will have four or five. Then, okay, who's the third best women's team after USA Canada? So I do think that the talent disparity and the.

skill level of the game international in women's basketball will insulate the women's team from the mistake they made and not strategically preparing for the international game. They're just so big and talented. It won't matter that they don't have the right roster. But if you were preparing for a great international team, you cannot have a team with at last three or four people that can light it up on three point like every single day. Turk, will there ever be a women's Caitlin Clark in Canada? I mean, is Kelsey from kind of that?

A nurse, is nurse popular? I'm going to send this out to you, right? I think her name is Sylvia Soritz. For my hometown of Sudbring on town, a little mining town, that girl can ball out. She's 16 years old. And by the way, tell your boys, I need this video clip to send to her. But she, because I'll tell you, she needs to get some love. there are some great not good great young canadian female players that are going to do a lot of damage in college and in the wnba coming up and she's one of them and uh and you know and that's the thing too is like you know there's there's you know now that like for a canadian player unlike when it was when i was playing there is a track where you can go high school aAU uh mount vernon academy you know college two years

years, pros. We have a Canadian academy now for elite players for men and women that didn't exist when I was there. It didn't exist until after Steve Nash even, right? So I'm telling you, those players are coming because Canada, basketball is now the number one participation sport in the entire country. Wow. More than hockey. Wow. That's a statement statement. And it's a true statement because, well, think about it, right? You want to go play hockey in our hockey team DP, you better show up with 1,500 bucks. If you're a family that doesn't have a lot of money, a good pair of skates alone is $1,000.

Nowadays, basketball, give me a pair of shoes. Where's the court? You know, like, it's a totally, so the participation level is extremely high, and Canadians love the game. The Raptors are great. And by the way, 2026, Toronto's getting a WNBA franchise. So now you're going to have an even more direct homegrown path. to like for a young person to beat the next katelyn clark they just have to see a path forward like when

i was coming up like literally i would mean i mean this is how old i am d p i could literally say before me there wasn't one canadian guard that had ever made the nba even for five minutes not five years right now a canadian born guard right now we had like tony sims we had guys that had canadian relations but born in canada grew up in canada played in Canada. There was there was nobody for me to look ahead to and say oh there's the guy that did what I'm doing. He came from a small town in northern Canada and he's going to go play in the league. There's no such thing. Nowadays there is a path you can be from small town middle of nowhere whatever and by the way you know shout out to an icon for all of us Jerry west and his

family. I love the Jerry West story small town West Virginia middle of nowhere becomes the I the logo, right? That's that beautiful story of going from like a night. And I look at that because he came from a mining town. I came from a mining town where, you know, it was the only way out, right? Well, that path is now there for Canadian players. And now that you've got NBA and W.A. tracks where scouts come to Canada, right? I remember when I was playing in high school, we had Jim Beheim and John Thompson in a high school gym in Sudbury, Ontario, Canada. Nobody even knew who they were in our gym. And they're like, you know, it's like, you know, so it's crazy to think about how it's changed for us, but there will be a Canadian version.

And I'll give you swords. Look at look her up. S-O-W-R-D-S. She's a great young player, 1617. She is balling out. She'll do great. We will put her a clip on the internet, Dave Turk. We'll throw the break, come back.

We'll close out one-on-one with Dave Turkot. I want to ask him about this series. And, of course, one more question just about Turk himself. And the dream team. We'll be right back to one-on-one. You're listening to One-on-One with DP, sponsored by Mary Ellen's Food for the Soul, on 93-7 The Ticket and the Ticket FM.com.

Final segment of one-on-one, Dave Turcott. We appreciate you. Harrison says there is a correction that needs to be made. Kind, sir. I kept saying Sylvia, S-Y-L-A, she is playing at Mission Unigervancy. Michigan University now. She is from my hometown of Sudbury, Ontario, Canada,

which is in the middle of nowhere, and nobody knows where that is. But it is a mining town way up north, and so proud of her and what she's doing, and she's going to do great things. So you watch her. She's turning a lot of heads already now, and she's going to do big work in Michigan and for Canada.

Well, she's on the list now, and we'll have Harrison cut it up and send it out and shout her out. Just text him whatever her social media is, so we can let her know we're supporting her. She's getting support from the, south we're down here rooting for so a couple of things you and i were talking you told the story of when you found out that you were against the dream team you're going to guard jordan and i two things came up one uh canada needs to do better about documenting what you guys did and who

you guys were and i like i was going to like do you even have like a jersey from from team canada The team jerseys know. Ironically, I got signed shoes from Michael when I played against them. I got other stuff. Yeah. But I, you know, practice gear, other things. But those things all, you know, what's really funny is over the years, that stuff just kind of disappeared. I'm not sure how.

Yeah. But, you know, the funny thing is back then, though, it was really weird. I don't know if I told you, did I tell you the Nintendo story of that team? No. So if you play Dream Team 1992, the Nintendo video game, you play the game, me against Jordan. And so I used to joke that for about 10 years after the 92 Olympics, I could see all these kids in living rooms being pissed off like, I don't want to be the Canadian, dude. I used to joke. I literally got my ass kicked five million times a day for about a decade by this mathematical algorithm that made impossible.

for us Canada to beat Team USA in the video game. But it's a fun thing. And years later, my daughter found it and played it as a joke and be like, yeah, Dad, you're not looking very good, you know. But it's a lot of fun. There's a great legacy with that. But no, I mean, as far as that's one of the things that, you know, Canada, you know, Canada really was, you know, back in the 80s and 90s when I was playing,

it really was a small town kind of thing. We were just coming up. And there were only a couple guys that had played in the league at that point and you know and and steve nass really broke through but he didn't break through till the mid late 90s right yeah and so you know then you had rick fog billy winnington of course was with the bulls and he's a little bit older than me but he's he's a seven-forter so he had mike smrek with the lakers so you had seven-footers but you didn't really have small position players like me until steve nash and beyond and so anything before 19 or before the year 2000 is kind of this

weird transition area, right? Where, yeah, did we invent the game? Yep. But, you know, was the first Olympics in basketball, 1936, Hitler's Olympics in Germany, Canada, USA, Mexico, gold silver, bronze, right? And then ever since then, Canada never won another medal again, right? So we kind of never prioritized basketball as a sport. It was always about hockey.

So our history, this is a true, sad story. My buddy Howard Kelsey that I work with, I'm now part of, we helped form the national basketball teams alumni association to try to grab some of that history the game ball where we won this silver medal and the medal was in a locker stuffed in the bottom of the offices of basketball Canada and and we just kind of found it oh there it is and like no like there was no effort to sort of preserve a lot of that history and so that's happening now we've got some great stuff going with the hall of fame and some other things that we're doing to get those things to going to sort of rejuvenate and kind of remember a lot of great history for a lot of great players that,

you know, where the building blocks or the foundation upon which we transition to this cottage industry, small level play to being NBA world stage stuff. The Raptors helped for sure, but there are a lot of great players that showed up before Vince Carter that really were building blocks were guys more importantly like me that could get recruited to even play division one and get playing time. Like that was the first thing. that had to happen. Canadians had to get, there were a lot of Canadians that played at Duke and with Syracuse and stuff like that and St. Bonaventure were a lot of my friends play, but they weren't starters and they were coming off the bench and they had nominal roles, right?

So until we broke through to being all conference players, starters and getting visibility, oh, Canadians can play. Well, now all of a sudden we're getting more opportunities to play in college and go from there. So I appreciate you bringing that up. There's a lot of great history of the game that was played. A lot of guys that were really pushing forward in the vanguard of basketball in Canada. Tony Sims, Stu Granger, Dwight Walton, Wayne Yearwood, Trevor Williams, guys I played with, Carol Hamilton, people I played with that people don't know enough about, that need to know about them. Eli Pascuali, Jay Truano, who's coaching in the league, by the way.

You know, Danny Mahar played at Duke. You know, the very first great Coach Kay's first great Duke team was Danny Mahar was a starting power forward, one of Coach Kay's favorite players of all time. Great Canadians playing on these teams. winnington of course you know from st johns and the bulls you know all these great players there's this murky area from the 80s through the 90s where there's this void where nobody knows what anyone in canada was doing and that's where i was kind of working it out trying to get there and so thanks for bringing it up but as part of my effort with the alumni association to kind of resurrect some of

that history and bring it out and just make sure those people get recognized for their contribution to the journey to where we are now turk that'll be it for this week next week we will talk about the Danny T. Mahars and the Leo Routins. We want to talk. We'll go a little bit in the deep dive and talk about some of the players. I'll play. And then what's going on and whether NIL is a thing in Canada. Absolutely.

Yeah, we're going to talk about that. If you've got a following, you get the money. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. Tirk, appreciate your brother. We'll do it next week.

Same time. That'll be it for one-on-one. The morning, Cursonel. Don't put our right. Up next on the ticket.