1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - David Turcotte (Canada National BBall Team - Faced 1992 Dream Team) - March 18th, 2024

Episode Date: March 19, 2024

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It's time to go one-on-one with D.P. Coming at you live from the couple Chevrolet GMC Studios. Here is your host, Derek Pearson. Brought you by Mary Ellen's Food for the Soul on 93-7 The Ticket and the Ticketfm.com. Welcome to everybody. Happy Monday. So I have to talk a little hoops tonight and talk a little life. Because every now and then you get the opportunity.

to cross pass with good people and life has been really interesting in that I've met some pretty cool people along the way and a big part of this thing is you hear the stories of how things that were iconic played out and then you meet people not knowing who the people are, which is kind of the best way to meet people. So there's a couple of things that we'll cover in the hour, and we'll talk about the dream team, and we'll talk about the journey and what happened. There are a couple of things that are in play lately that would even lead us to this conversation because the conversation of Brazil and Oscar Schmidt, Oscar Schmidt, they are doing a visit

back that if they don't have the year that they had in 88 and beat. the the the the the the the u.s team and Schmidt doesn't put on that 40 plus point performance against them the dream team never happens and then what led to that and then some of the stories and situations that happened from that um played out in full in front of us and it was pretty cool uh to watch so 402 464 56685 5685 is the starter heavy text line you want to be a part of what we're doing of course you could follow on the video stream facebook youtube uh Twitch x and and Allo Channel 961. And you can kind of follow along and be a part of what we're doing.

And if you have questions, and I'm sure in this thing that people have a different recollection of that time, for those of us that were old enough to be around and remember how this thing all played out. Because, my goodness, like, it changed everything. It changed everything. So I'm just texting you real quick to get him in. Okay. Yeah.

The whole thing has it played out was just different. Because there's a time leading up to this that Olympics were for, as first from the American side, was for college players only. And it was more developmental and expressing. It was kind of rebranding. it depended on who the college coach was that was going to coach the team and the names you know coach sheshevsky coach knight you know

even Nebraska coaches you know mo iba you know folks who were around it and who who got access to uh the Olympics and the leadership and america's success because it basketball was an american sport at it's at its depth at its heart what was your reaction to when you found out that we were going to bring NBA guys this time. So, so it go, if you go back a little bit more, so, and it's twofold in that one, well, three, three things were in play. One, the debacle that was Russia versus U.S.

And because the U.S. was on a streak of wins. They were on a streak, like they were dominant. Like, if the USA won gold and it wasn't an issue. then the Olympics where the 72 Olympics where there was drama anyway with you know you know there were there were deaths at the Olympics and through it all I mean this was a pretty stellar I mean this was a Doug they tell you how how long ago it was this is Doug Collins this was Doug Collins in college that Chris

this was Doug Collins in college Tom McMillan Lynn Elmore, etc. Those those sorts of players. And the officiating was so bad. The officiating was so remarkably bad that it stunned the world. And it put the USA on notice that teams weren't just going to roll over and just hand over gold medals to the U.S. So what year was that when that kind of felt like it was going away?

72. 72 or 76? trying to get the time frame when the U.S. is like maybe we're not, can't just walk into this anymore. Yeah, it was really a thing. And then losing to Oscar Schmidt and Brazil, and there was a humbling, there was a humbling,

uh, to U.S. athletics and specifically U.S. basketball. Because it didn't, it didn't feel there was no preparation for it. There was no real, hey we saw this coming we didn't see it coming you didn't see it coming

and Schmidt oh I'm trying to think of so he's probably older he's a little older than I am now and he's in the basketball hall of thing but he wouldn't give up

being a Brazilian pro for playing in the NBA. And it would have been interesting to see what he had done in full. So there was that. And I remember watching this. And again, this is on delay. And folks are telling you're hearing whispers. There's no internet for you to really kind of get what was what was happening. Yeah, I can't quick pull up. What is Spain? What has Russia got this year? Right. Like it was for me in those 2000s, you probably started getting some of the quote unquote stinker dream team that were coming back early 2000s especially and you can go i go check out spain and i could figure out really quick i'm like yeah this isn't going to walk in the part

spain's got some guys those scissal brothers are pretty good that smit was so good smith is officially the greatest score professional score in basketball so lebron scored has 40 000 smith had 54 000 points i'm the games of spitz and it and let me tell you it it does it it real does It doesn't matter how many, how many games he played. Because he was, he was, he torched the best the U.S. had. And I mean, torched them. Having, he was Steph Curry before Steph and that he had the freedom to shoot from anywhere with any angle. And if you ever want to get on some video and watch Oscar Schmidt, please do so.

You'll be, you'll be fully just put Oscar Schmidt versus USA. and you'll get a full range of, oh, my goodness, this dude, there's, there's a couple of players. Schmidt being one of them. Yeah, he was, like he was a dude. First headline, Oscar's finest hour of the 46 point eruptions to stun the USA, the 40 point game you're talking about. Right. Like, and just go watch that one. So Turk will be, he said five minutes.

Okay. Um, so, so imagine Steph back in the 80s just with the freedom to shoot. the USA was very disciplined and very orchestrated. And here comes Brazil. Resent Turk the link, please, to his cell number I gave you. Perfect. That very orchestrated, organized, structured. And then here comes, like, it was like Steph when he was in the NCAA tournament

at Davidson. People weren't prepared to extend defenses and run off of, awful plays. Like, you just weren't prepared for it. So you're going to say, listen, enough of this, we know that you're beating up on our college players. Now what are you going to do against our best? Right. What are you going to do against our best? And that was kind of the thing was, okay, you beat up on the teenagers.

What are you going to do now? and as it played out, these other countries started to form. There was another Arvita Sabonis, who was a Russian superstar, Lithuanian superstar, and Sabonis was the first fluid big man, shooting threes,

ball handling, running their offense from the top of the key, great passer, ran the floor well. and he was a bit of a cult icon. It was a bit of a, he was a bit of a cult icon to have a big that just did this thing. Now, the NBA got a bonus later in his career,

and he still was a factor. Like he was still a factor in the NBA. And he went to Portland and pushed Portland up. Like, it was a good thing. And as a matter of fact, he became iconic because, of course, ESPN, who took his name and is like, whenever he made a play, he's not my Vitas. He's not your Vetus. He's our Vetus. And so to have countries not only identify their talent, their basketball talent early, this is what Dickie.

dictated all of that. That you don't get, without this situation, without the Dream Team situation, you don't get the Canadian players. You don't get Steve Nash. You don't get, you don't get Dirk Novitsky, you don't get Andre Kirolenko. You don't get them because the game was so Americanized that we really didn't look and didn't consider. And then finally they decided that, okay, what if we put our best players into the Olympics? And if you're the rest of the world, one, you're intrigued because all of your basketball heroes are American heroes except for the names, the ones that you could name, right? The ones that you could name.

then it's a matter of, oh, well, now you get to be, you get to measure, you get to measure, uh, yourself against these American teams. And to watch all of it play out was fantastic. And so we've had some of these stories with players who played in those Olympics and what it was like. And unless you played in America and a lot, but a lot of the connections. Canadian players did. You know, they did. But then they would go international and it would play out.

And then you go, okay, now we really get to see who we are. I kind of missed that era of being in that unknown era where you really don't know until those teams step out on the court. You can't imagine, like it's one thing to face Jordan and the college Jordan and the dream team. and then an entire other thing to face pro Jordan with pro Barclay with pro

Ewing with pro David Robinson with pro Drexler on that team with pro Drexler with pro Stockton with pro like the only thing it wasn't there was you know Isaiah Thomas so you think Christian Leitner was going to be good on that squad. I know that's got to talk about a lot. This should have been, it should have been checks. Okay. Position.

There's no like. I agree, but I wasn't there. But I always thought he odd ball stuck out. You read about it stuck out. People at the time didn't seem to fully understand or agree. Leitner was the best college player for the longest period of time. No question about that. But he was never Shaq.

Like not in college. Like he wasn't Shaq. Leitner played at Duke with Hurley and Christian. in Grant Hill. Of course, but if you had played Shaq with Grant Hill and Bobby Hurley, it's not. Like, literally, you watched them play against each other, and it just, it was a man against a boy, and that's forever. Like, that's never going to change.

So for all the politics behind it, and Turk would probably be a really good one to ask his thoughts on it, because I think a big part of it was understanding the time and the politics. And what was going on? It was a different era, different world. Internet, not really. Not the thing. Streaming, not the thing. You got some highlight reels.

You got something on ESPN and you got what ESPN decided was valid. Otherwise, you were kind of in the dark other than basketball magazines, right? That would you get once a month that told you be on the lookout. and whatever the ESPN ticker had for you that night because they don't have all the channels. So here's what we'll do. We'll turn to break and let's get Turk all lined up and we'll come back and we'll have Day Turkot

joining us here on one-on-one. You're listening to One-on-One-on-one with DP. Brought you by Mary Ellen's Food for the Soul on 93-7 the ticket and the ticket FM.com. Again, thank you for hanging out with me on a Monday night and you guys have the one-on-one's I love the fact that we get to introduce different folks to it, and I get to have family and friends on.

And in this particular case, this is a reunion. I haven't seen this gentleman in a while, far too long. From one of the most interesting families I've ever met, this kingdom of good people who do good things constantly, not a bad basketball player, better human being. welcome Dave Turcott to one-on-one. Turk, what's happening, buddy? Hey, listen, I'll tell you, what's happening is being here now. I want to say, first and foremost, love everything you're doing, love the show, DP, so proud of you

and what you've achieved and the things that are out there and what you're doing in the world. And it's just great to have your voice out there. It's important to have your voice out there, and I'm honored to be here today. So thanks for bringing me on. Man, it is so cool because, I mean, I was telling the producer that a big part of this is that sometimes you could to meet people outside of their greatness circle. And you find a different level of greatness. Like you were just a really good guy.

And then, oh, it turns out, he's this fantastic basketball player. Oh, and he's a lawyer. And oh, he's a writer. And oh, he's got this really cool family. And oh, his sister's one of my favorite kind people in the world. So I'm blessed to have Turk because there are times of need in Salt Lake City, with Turk always put on his Superman cape and rally and showed up. And he currently, like I sent him a text a few weeks ago.

I got a friend that needs Superman and Turk to the rescue with his legal advice. So thank you, kind sir, for doing what you do always. And again, first, let's tell the family story, the name Turkot and this amazing family and belated happy birthday to your lovely mom. Her 90th birthday, she's still a queen, man. Oh, that was awesome. Yeah, so we really lucky there. So part of that backstory is that, you know, basketball Canada and the Toronto Raptors are very, very closely affiliated. Michael Bartlett, who's the CEO of Basketball Canada.

I did three Olympics for Canada back in the day, long time ago playing basketball. And they've really reached out lately and tried to connect with alumni. And as part of it, we've been talking a lot and kind of growing the game for stuff you and I've talked about about what's coming with the Olympics and Canada, USA, July 10th in Vegas. going to be a fun game. We'll talk more about that, I'm sure. But, you know, I basically said, look, my mom's 90. Her birthday's the 15th. She'll be at the Raptors game, got seats near the floor, anything you can do to help my mom have a great birthday. Sure enough, Michael Bartlett makes a call. Raptors mascot, Hanser, Pat Turcott, you know, a black and gold Raptors jersey, her name on it, number 90 for her birthday. A lot of fun. And it's just, it's a testament to Michael

Bartlett, really, of the CEO of Basketball Canada that's embracing, you know, the larger cultural engagement of alumni and players to realize to build a great program, it takes a lot more than a village. It takes connecting with the past, connecting with the future and working with everyone to build something that honestly a lot of people want to be a part of. And he did a huge thing for her. She loved it. It was, you know, for her, it was one of the greatest things ever. She's really been, like my mom's been a Raptors fan day one, Vince Carter days, back in the day. loves it, watches every game. It's really funny.

D.P., like, I'll call my mom during a game, not knowing the Raptors are playing because I'm in Utah, hey, anything broken? Are you sick? No, call me after. It's the third quarter. You know, Scotty Barnes is not doing well right now. He's not getting back on Dean.

I'm very upset. Click and still hang up on me. It's such a fantastic family. Look, you are the accumulation of some great human beings, right? dad's just this turkot family the stories are amazing well we really you know that's the thing too dp is like you know you can never take credit for your ancestors right like i'm just lucky to be like my dad you know my dad old school jazz musician like band leader musician hardcore bebop the old stuff like that's we grew up in a house full of music so my brother kevin turkot is that's why he's a juno which is our

equivalent of a grammy you know 10 time juno award winning jazz trumpet player because of the environment that my parents created. My mother was a concert penis, of course, and a basketball player, both athletes, both musicians. So we grew up in a household where it's like, you're not sitting around doing nothing. You're either perfecting your craft as an athlete, you're doing something in music, you're doing something academically or get out of the house, right? So it's like, you know, we grew up in a household and my parents deserve all of the credit for my sister, myself, and my brother, and we're just so fortunate to have, you know, phenomenal family members that realized it's, you know, investing in the kids and investing in teaching them work ethic,

teaching them the value of work, the value of that kind of focus and commitment is what makes the rest of the, you know, your life work out in phenomenal ways. And it has for all of the kids. So full credit and gratitude from my mom and dad for what they've done. But you're right. It's all about those two and what they did to hand on off. And I'm hoping to do the same thing for my kids as well. So it's, I appreciate that you bring them up because they deserve all the credit, DP, they really do. Yeah, it's, it's a thing that, and in full disclosure, we're going to have several, several sit down conversations with Turk, because there's no way I could cover everything that I want to talk to Turk about and that I want Turk to talk to the listeners about.

Because there's zero chance that we can cover it all an hour. So we're going to, we're going to flashpoint some conversation points and get through some as much as possible. You're talking about what's passed to you. You have passed down to your daughter. who is just an incredible athlete herself. Well done, Turk. Hey, you know what, though? In DP, you know this. It's like, look, I played in some pretty big games in front of a lot of people and all those things.

There is nothing in the world. As a parent, like what you really learn what our parents have to go through. I only think about my own mom and dad in the struggles of, you know, seeing me playing against the teams, whether it's college pros, whatever, Olympics, whatever happened after. I'm just, I can now appreciate the anxiety that every, parent in the world goes through when their kids are trying to strive, you know, and their kids are fighting for it. And so what was really fun is I'm at CSU today. And I'm going to drop another one on

you now that I will tell you that I've never said publicly to anybody that's the next facet in my sort of journey of my sort of accidental tourism, living remarkably kind of trying to just make the different choices to live a life that will be memorable and love it, you know, for me, but also for my kids to be, you know, to care about. But so I'm, my daughter raced this weekend, podiumed again, second place on a Noram World Cup prep race for the next

Olympics and Border Cross. And I keep telling her, and I joke with her and say, hey, if you're not Olympian, don't come home. Okay. So I'm trying to be tough. I'm trying to be hard, you know, because this is the next generation of kids. They're not so hard, you know. Right. But I try to be tough. But, you know, my,

then I've got a house full of girls' DP, so they just look at me the right way and dad melts. know that. They know they got me, right? Oh, man. But I'll tell you, so here's the fun part. Here we go. I'm back at Colorado State at my alma mater. Give it to me. So, so here's what, so this is, this is my weekend and here we go, okay? I'm driving back. I drive five hours. I make 90 miles an hour drive across Utah because I want to get here in time for Selection Sunday with Colorado State Rams, right? So I do that. I literally stop in Laramie to hug my daughter. She just wins, does her raise, gets her medal.

She meets me and Laramie. Hug her. Love you, girl. Congratulations. We pass each other. I go to CSU. She makes it home. I walk into CSU.

Hug coach, Nedved. Hey, Joe, Desimion, great guy. Great assistant coach. He's also Canadian here at CSU. Within five minutes of me walking in the building, they announced CSU is now playing Virginia and Dayton tomorrow. So they make the announcement. Then I just say, well, I'm here.

My work is done. I'm out. So we leave. Now, but here's the part you don't know, DP. I'm also working with. and decided I had a kid, this is the beauty of the gift of just trying to invest in people. Like you, like exactly like you said, being around people where you understand that the value is life, your life is only the investment you've made in others to help others thrive, right?

And so I, 25, 30 years ago had some great friends that knew me at BYU in Utah where you and I met. And they call me up and say, hey, Dave, you're still doing that lawyer thing once in a while? Well, yeah. Do you know people in the NFL still? Yeah. You want to help our kid? Okay. Come to the Colorado State Air Force game, which I did, drove across the state and come out. And next thing, you know, I'm watching this kid named Dallan Holker play, tied in for CSU. Had a monster game against CU, of course, as you know, when CSU played CU and Dion Sanders launched their team. Just had a phenomenal game. And I'm working with him to help him with the NFL. So now I'm basically working with him doing an NFL agent.

So I was at his pro day today. And I just literally walked out of his pro day after spending all this time talking to teams from all over the NFL. And it's all about the only reason that that's occurring is because they know I come from this school. They know I care about this kid. They know I don't care about the other economic things that other people care about. And I just want to invest in this kid and being a part of his journey to support his pursuit of a dream, which is an incredible miracle to have the opportunity to be an NFL player or an NBA player. Like the probabilities of those things happening to any young person are so slim.

And so I just think it's, you know, 20 years after meeting his dad, you know, here's what happens. And it's just a great, so I'm just sitting here having a great ride. And, you know, all the things you talk about DP all the time have real meaning. They don't carry into the next week or the next weekend. and they impact people's lives over decades and bring value over decades. And that's what I'm experiencing right now. So I'm like, again, honored to be part of his journey and share that with you now. But you're the first person I've told that I'm even doing that, you know.

I have to say it that, and it's a phrase that I use that we're all the accumulation of the great people who leave an impact on us throughout the course of this thing. And again, in a time where I was in Utah, and times are different. And here's this gentleman who's just being a good dude for no reason, for no value other than that's who he is. And it's so important for us to keep telling people that they're good people in the world. We can talk hoops any time. We can talk athletics. We can talk sports law. We can talk contracts.

We can talk about all those things. But I had to set the table first and letting me know, one, who you are, where your family comes from, the type of people that you all are, what you've done for people that I know of, even things, stories that I couldn't even share and say, Turk helped people in such situations of need for nothing other than it was the right thing to do and he could. And it's spectacular, Turk. I'm just telling you, man, I love you so much. I'm so proud of you because you are a shot.

It's a North Star in this thing, man. And you know some of my struggle. And you knew some of the days when things weren't going so well. And to have people in the world that just go, keep going, bro. Yeah. You know what, DP? I love everything you just say, you know, you know, it bothers me, you know, and it really does. like the mythology about how people win, you know, and there's so much, especially in today's world

of social media with young people and where they're being misled. And I don't fault young people and where they are now. Like if you and I were growing up in today's world, we would be doing whatever we thought was best to win, thrive, and survive and do whatever we got to do, right? But at the end of the day, the mythology that I am so frustrated with is this not. notion that people do it on their own or if they're isolated greatness that or they're you know when i when i talk to people of course everybody wants to talk about me playing against jordan or calm or whatever and and i get frustrated when i hear people talk about you know oh it's a function of of they're just phenomenal talent or he's this unicorn kind of whatever it's never that way

and you're a hundred percent right there is no person thriving and succeeding today that didn't have mentors, friends, someone to guide. Nobody does life in a vacuum. No one succeeds or thrives in a vacuum. And I think that's what I get frustrated in when I hear people talk or think or try to diminish the work that people have done, but also diminish the mentoring and the support and the love and the family and all of the things. And by the way, like you and I know back in our days here in Utah, right, look at our family. You knew who was in our family. It doesn't mean we all had the same birth parents, but we sure is hell we're family, right? And we looked out for each other. And there's all kinds of people in your network that are rooting for you. And I just think

that, and I think that's where a lot of people don't understand that, you know what, if you took five minutes to talk to that young person, don't cuss them out. Don't try to tell them why you're right or why you're smarter or what you've done. Realize this is a person that if you took five minutes, you could change their life. You really could. You know, if you're, You think you know, if you think you have the experience, you know, I got all these gray hairs, you know what? That's a lot of pain and that's a lifetime of terrible mistakes that I've made that can be, you know, that's what wisdom is, right? You make mistakes, you screw up life, and then you learn why things are the way they are,

why people need to do the things they need to do to be successful. So share that. And so I get frustrated with that mythology of complaining instead of invest in that young person. Reach out to help that person. if you think you know so much, then take the time it takes to help that person in their life and make that situation better. And so I've just always felt like, you know, hey, I've got kids, a wife, a family. I just want the world to treat them that way.

And so I just want to, I'm trying to be what I hope to see in the world with other people and be a part of something positive for those, you know? You're doing that. You're doing that. And I'm going to, like, I'm going to kidnap your investment quote, because it's so good. and it lands so heavy for me that it needs to be shared because it's a big it's a big deal we tell our young people whether it's as coaches or parents that we've made the mistakes so that you don't have to just don't repeat them and let us show you the scar and say be smarter than dad

because you should be and I have to say this another part of this brilliant is your ability to just cross streams culturally with anybody that exists in the world. And it's a family thing. And I know that your family just loves. It doesn't matter who you're from. It doesn't matter what your parents' names are. Your parents put love in. And I want to talk about your sister Carol because for her to make a decision as a white basketball player to the Canadian basketball player, she's going to go to historically black college and university and put it down.

bro, just look, your family is unique and special and wonderful, and God bless you for it. Well, that's Carol going to Jackson State. She went to CSI, you know, University Toronto to CSI, CSI down to Jackson State. And she and I talked about that. You got to Carol is a warrior, right? And but the thing was, though, is that, you know, she was like, well, you know, you went to CSU. You're kind of in the West. And I've been in the Northeast.

And let's go somewhere different, learn something, meet new people, let's grow and throw ourselves into an environment where it's like, you know, and you know what? It was like, you know what? I have no problem going down there. And she has friendships, by the way, as you can imagine, that are lasting to this day, people that he communicates with. And she went down there, played well, did great. In fact, she wound up getting, after her basketball career was done, they gave her a scholarship for being on the golf team, and then they gave her a scholarship for band, you know, because she was a good musician, too. So she loved it down there. And again, it's such a part of the country that you would think is so off of the national consciousness of that time,

25, 30 years ago. But in our family, it was like, hey, this is the venture that nobody contemplated for me. Well, that's why I'm going to go. I'm going to go there because nobody thought I would. I'm going to go there because nobody thought I should. And I'm going to come out of their learning things that nobody thought were possible with people that are going to be in my life for the rest of my life. And so that's just the way our family approaches things, you know.

And I'm so proud of her. and she did so well by being there, but it was an enormously courageous move to go down there. And it stressed my dad out, of course, as the dad are going like, you're literally at the first, I'm in Canada. You're literally as far as you can be away from me geographically possible.

That's four connecting flights and whatever. And she said, don't worry, dad. I got this. And she did. She handled her business and did it. And it was a great adventure. And she's a stronger, more powerful person because of it.

So I'm glad you brought that up about her because she's an incredible human. And right now, she's the glue keeping, you know, helping with our parents and her, my mom's 90th. I was all Carol. You know, she's so strong and so resilient and has just, can just function at an incredibly high level to do things that, you know, my brother and I and the rest of our family are just grateful for. So she's a, she's a warrior. She's amazing. Terrick, I'm going to put you on hold and put a pin in it for a bit.

We'll take a break. We'll come back. We will actually talk a little hoops with Dave. Awesome. We're going to make him talk about some of the players that he hates talking about. We got some crash talking going on. It's coming, D.P. Yeah.

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y'all are special not that you don't know but you guys look this family is pretty special did we get him in there did we mute him yeah you got us he might have us muted out there he should be able to hear us okay there we go he should be able to hear what we're doing yeah so david we'll plug him out real quick if he actually might be frozen if that's what's going on there. So we'll try to plug him back in as soon as we get the shot. So that's his sister.

That's Carol. Carol Turcott, yep. And that was here's to life. Here's to life. You can find the album. I mean, she's a blue player, extraordinary, uh, basketball player, college basketball player, college golfer, uh, pro vocals. Blue jazz and blues vocalists.

And it, again, it's just another thing in a family in a world of, uh, unique and talented people and the fact that these people are out there just doing their thing. And I wanted to share Turk and introduce him to Lincoln, Nebraska, because it's just to know that these people are in the world doing what they do. And just being out there. And again, not to bury the lead, but as one of the top five scoring leaders in Colorado State University history. I believe he averaged 13 in game. I'm sure he'll correct me if I undershot what he put and put what was actually put in play.

But at 6-3 and able to put up points and he led this team to the NIT and played on the, as he said, on three Olympic teams. One of those, of course, matching up directly with Team USA and the Dream team. And so there's so much in it. to be proud of.

And he's humbled and super funny. Like, Turk's just a funny guy. You miss that somebody of his, his place that he's leading the charge for Canada to organize their alumni, their basketball alumni, do some,

do great things for them. You know, it's a thing. So let's see if we got Turk back. Yeah, Can you, Turcock, can you hear us okay on your end?

Okay, he's moving. It looks like he may be having audio issues on our end. We're okay here, 402, 64, 64, five,

you turned him down. You turned it down. Yep, he's back up on board. We should be good. Okay. Let's see if we can get Turkey. Yeah,

he's not getting any audio from us right now. Okay. Don't know what that is and have him reboot and see if it comes back in. he can't hear us. Yep, exactly. So let's stream that thing through. We'll figure it out. You'll keep working as we set this thing up.

So through all of this thing, again, and trying to identify to people, why Turk, and I was in full that we could not, there was zero chance that I could have every bit of the conversation that I want to have with Turk. Turk's a genius in certain facets

and a lot of facets. that are relevant today and talking about NIL and talking about player contracts. And go ahead and take his call and see if we can get him straight because I'd like to finish. I say what? Let's go ahead and do this because we got him back in there. There we go. I heard the click. There we go.

Turk, Turk, welcome back. Hey, not sure what happened there, but I lost the audio from you. So glad to be reconnected. Well, you missed what we did. When we rejoined, I had a little Carol Turquhart. tourcrap music playing. Yeah, I gave a little, yeah, a little bit of happy life,

just so folks could kind of enjoy your sister and your family and what's going on. Okay, so we have about 10 minutes to cover the entire world until we do this again next time, and we will do this again next week because that would be awesome. There's so much to cover. The state of basketball, you as a veteran in this thing and being able to to say you've seen different versions of it, different varieties of it. What are you, what's your, what's your feeling on today's game, whether it be on the college level, pro level or other way.

Love today's game. I love the way it's being played. As you know, you know, as a guy that, you know, played internationally and stuff and had a little, you know, the experience I had as a professional. It was, I love how the game is played so freely. I'm a huge Steph Curry fan. I love the way. I only, as a guy that was a, a.

distance shooter myself and the way that I played, all I can say is everybody that I know is, and I wish I was playing in today's game. You know, there's so much fluidity. And I think the best thing that I think that happened over the last 10 to 15 years is the influence. I know there was initial pushback on the Europeans sort of, you know, heavily soccer influence style of play, of playing in space and a lot of movement and deep shooting and passing. But look, I mean, look what Luke is doing. Look what Joelle M. Bede is doing. Look what, you know, Pascal Seacum in Canada and all these guys that come in and play. and have that international flow.

And it's just such a beautiful game now. I mean, how do you not love the game of basketball when you watch, you know, either San Antonio or Golden State or these teams, the ball just moves, you know, and it's sort of birth players like LeBron. And so I love today's game professionally where it's, there's more focus on shooting, passing movement, you know, and that to me I love. The college game, you know, it's as exciting as ever. You know, a lot of people are complaining the NIL stuff and those, you know,

they're going to figure that out. The cream will always write it to the top. And at the end of the day, I'm always a fan of any way for players and their talent and their ability and their work ethic and the things that they've done to invest in themselves as a player. Look, you're 18, 19 years old and you're making millions of dollars for your school. I have zero problem with those kids getting money to help themselves, help their families a little bit earlier. So I don't have any problems with that. I think obviously there's things to figure out. You know, it's not quite a perfect system yet. And then there's lots of things to go. I hear these guys complaining of, well, it's not the game that I remember and things are different now. Well, yeah, the game's got to grow up to match today's reality of digital economies.

And I think the game will grow. The technologies will figure out how this all has to work. But at the end, it's better for players. The game is being played at a beautiful level. How can you complain? I mean, look at the guys we're able to watch every day and the way guys are playing and the shots they're making. Caitlin Clark and what she's doing and, you know, Angel Reese and all the great players in the WNBA. that are, I mean, I'm a father of three daughters.

How can you not love what's happening in women's sports? D.P, I mean, I got up early to watch women's soccer. You know, the USA playing Canada, then USA playing Brazil, and then playing college games. Like, if you're a sports junkie and you love basketball and you love sports generally, what a beautiful time to be a fan. What a beautiful time to be in the sport. It's just growing in every direction for everyone.

And for me, more the better. So I kind of love where things are at on many. many fronts. You mentioned Team Canada versus Team USA and basketball coming up in July. Yeah, yeah. So here's the thing, as you know, D.P. I've been talking a lot of smack for a year saying, do not go to sleep on Team Canada being a medalist in the Olympics and potentially beating the USA. I started saying that, remember our good friend Ronnie Price played for the jazz. Of course, Kelly Olenick was here with the jazz. A lot of guys that I knew and played ball with and worked out with and I was saying, guys, we're coming for you. There's no question USA is the dominant player,

and it has been for a long, long time. But excuse me, Canada invented this game, and we're going to eventually reclaim this thing. And, you know, I mean, yeah, the USA's been renting it for a while, but we're about to take it back. But I told my guys this last world championship, I said, guys, the days of the USA just showing up and just out-talenting and out-playing and being, those days are over. You know, like, you better show up prepared. You better show up with your best players or you're going home. And look what happened in the world championships.

They showed up with all-star NBA players weren't enough to beat Germany or Canada. So, of course, we beat USA, got the medal. USA came forth. Germany beat USA to make it to the championship game. So, I mean, the USA right now is the fourth best team in the world. Now, you so Steph Curry, Clay Thompson, all that other stuff. But like July 10th, here's the fun part. Canada is playing USA and are friendly.

So think about Team Canada. Our point guy on Shea Gilgis. She's not bad. You know, then we got Jamal Murray as a two guard. He's not bad, right? We got All-Stars too, right? So now you're saying what kind of team do you want to build? and I will tell you that what the USA is learning very quickly is the teams that do well,

the teams internationally, the rules are different. Like the NBA game is great, and I love it. I love watching it. But it's kind of a little like WWE, right? Like the rules are made for entertainment. So, you know, so in other words, if there are guys that can't shoot and can't play in the internet, you can double them, triple them, zone them, whatever. It's always an adjustment for Team USA in the last few years.

Now, look, are the American players the best players in the world? Of course they are. Like, to me, Steph Curry is the greatest shooter that ever lived, right? And we'll be for a long time. Clay Thompson comes right in there pretty quick. I can't even imagine playing an international game with a decent point guard. Like, I would put LeBron at pointing to, can you imagine having to deal with LeBron, Clay, and Steph on the floor at the same time?

And then throw in this little guy named KD that can shoot the lights out too. These guys are built for the international game, but there's an adjustment. But I will tell you, July 10th in Vegas, Team Mobile Arena, Canada versus USA, it's going to be a friendly. But as you know, in basketball, that's a soccer thing. We don't have those in basketball. We're going over there to kick the hell out of each other. And then we'll see you in Paris two weeks later, you know.

So that's what's going down. It's going to be a great game. But what I love about a DP is that when you remember you asked me before, the status of the game today, I think the Olympic world, the game of basketball worldwide, is everyone has to concede. There are great players everywhere in the world, every nationality, every race. It's such a beautiful thing to think of who the best players in the league are right now, what we're going to see in the Olympics.

Wembenyama is going to be great. Think about this team with France, Rudy, Wimbuniana, on the same team. Who's going to get a shot anywhere on side on those guys, right? So the way you have to play is different because now you don't have the NBA rules. It's like college rules for defense, right? Anything goes. So players, so it's really going to be fun, D.P. And I think there's going to be a great healthy rivalry

between Canada and the USA, because they all play against each other, like, you know, three weeks later, they'll be back in the league playing, you know, in the NBA lineup. But I think it's going to be great. And there's so many, it's going to be a fantastic summer of hoops. And it's going to be a great game in July. So, Turk, here's what we're going to do.

I'm going to ask you to check your schedule. And if next Monday at 6 o'clock, clock you are available, we're going to do this again because we have so much more to talk about, my friend. And I am grateful and appreciative of you and your family and who you are and what you do. It means the world. But I think we need to pin this thing up and go at it again next week. Let's do it.

Love to do it. Like I said, you guys do a great job. Honor to be a part of it. And I'd love to continue our conversation. So I'd look forward to next Monday. I'll be there. That is David Turkai. What a great, too.

What a great hour. Turk, I'm looking forward to next week. Appreciate your brother. Say hi to the family. We'll see you guys soon. Looking forward to it, man. Next Monday, we'll do it again. Don't go on your next week.

Hey, Mom says hello. Well done. More ticket weeknight coming up.