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Episode Date: November 4, 2025

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Facebook, YouTube, X, Allo, Channel 961. I just got a text that said, no, sir. The high today is expected to be 70, 70. Sir, sir. Okay, make a statement. Announce your presence with authority, Mother Nature. Well done. Before we get into the hour of Tuesday's sports ticket,

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So kind, sir, thank you for all of us to you, sir. Well, I'm happy about it. The Cardinals broke a five-game losing streak. So they did that as well without their starting quarterback. So it was getting to the point. And it's weird in the NFL season, you don't fall too far behind. otherwise you start cheering for draft picks and you don't know whether you want to win or lose. Oh, geez.

That is such a cringe thing that we do that immediately we become resolution people. We resolve to find some good and some piece in it. But it's part of being a fan. And, you know, the conversation has started in D.C., you know, are you buyers or sellers? and either way the answer is correct. Either way the answer is correct. A lot of discussion over quarterbacks and injuries. And, you know, I apologize.

Last night with Harrison, I apologize to all the teams, the quarterbacks of the teams that I root for. They all took a beating this weekend. I felt terrible about it. You know, I was in the, I flew back from D.C. in time for the game Saturday, did the post game show, immediately got on a plane flew to Denver

for a wedding. Shout out to the new bridegroom. Beautiful families. Great work. Made it back to Nebraska last night. I did a little late night with Harrison. In the meanwhile, we're in the building with Dylan when Dylan gets hurt.

My phone blew up about that. And then my phone blew up again Sunday night because of Mr. Daniels being hurt. And there are people who were upset. Well, you didn't say anything about C.J. Stroud. And I was like, stop it. All of you, stop being hurt. But you're in the physical injury business. And I think that's a thing.

Some of what I wanted to talk about today, and again, I can, playing a show that I want to talk and get folks prepared for, you know, to get folks prepared for UCLA, the bears of Yucla, to try to do that. And then I want to talk about the NFL and the current standings and what's going on in the league. And I want to talk about Nebraska football and bowl opportunities and, you know, the beauty and value of winning this Saturday, that we are currently in the place to constantly reset and rebrand this program. And this Saturday is another opportunity. So we'll talk about that.

But then I had a couple of things pop up that, quite frankly, we're on my mind. And we'll get to those. So, Bach, we have activity. What's the news, sir? Yes, we have Alex here on the call line. Alex, are you there? Yeah, I'm here. Alex, what's happening with you?

Not much. I'm sitting on my mower here working, about to get on lunch break. Okay, okay. What's on your mind? I got a question for you as a former baseball guy. Yes, sir. And questioning this World Series thing, what are your thoughts on that lodge ball situation that happened in game six.

Did you think that was fair? Or in my mind, as a former baseball guy, I thought that was kind of malarkey. I'll hang up and listen here. Alex, thank you for two things. One, bringing baseball into the vacuum and two for the first usage of malarkey this week. So thank you, kind, sir, for that. There's some words that we don't use enough of. Switch is one that we don't use.

Harrison used the word last night in reference to Stephen Sipple, that he calls his tennis shoes sneakers, sneakers, which is a statement of identity, who you are and where you come from. But yes, so, okay, as a baseball guy, as a, it's multifaceted in that in the game as a, center fielder, I'd love the rule. As a center fielder, I love the rule.

Because you don't control how somebody else builds their facility. You don't control it. And a lot of people don't put a lot of thought into that. There is some issue to the padding in the wall, because there are seams and quite frankly, what we know about the baseball universe is that if you create a seam or a line, the baseball will find it. If you create any space in a baseball vacuum, the baseball will find it.

Like, that's, it's so, like it is seeking it out. So you have to set rules in play for that very thing. And depending, you don't want to punish people, players for the architectural design of a building. But you have to. You have to say, no matter where this game is played, if a ball gets stuck, without intention, then you have to have a ground rule in play. So do that.

Now, there is some gray room in the rule because in some cases, depending on the building, they will predetermine that it could still be up to the umpire, the official to rule that, well, I think in this particular case, the batter or the runner would, achieve an extra base. In some cases, some levels, they've removed that

and just said, no, you can't do that anymore. Like the rules, the rule, the rule is the rules, the rule. Because, Bach, Alex, if there is an exception to the rule, then there is no rule. And you would often find yourself dealing with the exception

rather than the rule. So for simplicity's sake, ground rules are ground rules. And they meet before the game. Skippers walk out the home plate. You sit with the umpire, the host skipper. Another word, we don't use enough skipper instead of baseball manager. Skipper informs the other coach and the other team about the ground rules that may be unique to that building or to that field. And so, Bach, we stand at home plate and it's okay, down here at the corner there's a little bit of a trick.

Ground, you know, there's a hole down here on the file line. If it goes through, it's an automatic ground rule. If it bounces off this pole, there's an extra pole down here. If it lands fair, hits the pole and bounces back fair, it's still a ground rule double. In some cases, they will say, nope, it's all you can get. And you know that before the game. So the rules have been determined. You know what the rules are in that particular building.

if it gets stuck, it's stuck. That's all there is, and there's nothing you can do about it. As a hitter and as a speed guy, I tend to want all I can get anytime. Like, if you can't get me out, tough deal, tough cooking, right? But I understand the rule. And then as skippers and officials, we do that. We go back, back, apparently he's back on the line.

you would hit the button and reintroduced him. And there, Alex? I'm back. Yeah. Yes, sir. So what I have a disagreement with is that the outfielder picked up the baseball and continued to throw it in before the umpire was going out there to determine if it was a large ball, you know, and that, that is essentially the rule.

Well, the action. You know, if you're continuing the play, then it should be a live ball. Well, the action. Well, no, it is. That's just it. Even if it's played, the action beyond the incident doesn't matter. The incident is the end of the rule. It's almost like in football where you rip a quarterback's helmet off

and then the quarterback pulls away and throws a 70-yard touchdown pass. The incident of ripping off the helmet stops everything after that. It is not a live ball. It's a dead ball. Basketball, if you get filed on a breakaway at half court and then you go in the slam dunk, you don't get credit for the point. No, but that's not the same in baseball. If you continue on the play and you throw the ball back in after the umpire hasn't seen the ball lodged

and determined that it was lodged, then it's still live play. The lead official's sole job is to honor the rules of the game above everything else, and that's to get it right. honor the rules of the game to get the call right. And if, in fact, the ball lies at any point into that space, one, it protects the player from being not informed. Normally they will tell you from Little League on above, raise your hands, and just hold a play.

But in that situation, what if you're wrong? What if you're wrong? So they tell you, make the play and let the officials get it right. Like they will tell you somebody scoop and score, scoop and score, and then let the officials tell you whether it was a lateral or not or whether it was a thrown ball. The incident is the priority.

And getting the incident right is the priority. All the other action and activity beyond that is almost irrelevant because the ground rule is in that particular case, a ball that touches where it did, the ball is dead. everything else after it is irrelevant. It's just, I mean, that's easy to say if you're a catcher

and the home plate umpire is right there and the balls lodged within the backstop. But I feel like this rule is meant for fields like Wrigley Field where it's just all ivy and stuff. The umpire needs to determine if that ball is actually lodged or not. there are rules for every building that are set in stone long before first pitch. Again, I said they meet at home plate and go over all the ground rules. As a matter of fact, the officials have a meeting.

They meet with the ground crew. They meet with the individual teams. They discuss with the league because that's not the first time that a game was played in that building. So the rules existed before that situation, long before the situation. And the simple thing is, honor the rule and then deal with the exception. The rule was that if a ball touches, it reaches that space on the field. No matter what happens, you could have a gopher go in and knock it out or a bird fly in and peck the ball out of the space. But once it hits the space, it's a dead ball.

Like that's the rule of the building. And the official doesn't have to waver. He just has to call the game. He has to call the game based on the predetermined. rules for that situation and circumstance. Everything beyond that is irrelevant to him. It's absolutely irrelevant. So the ground rule is the rule,

and then everything else after that is the exception. Does that make sense? I was a former baseball coach, and I've been at those meetings, but in order to do that, you have to, as an outfielder, hold your hands up and not play the ball. You do not have to.

If you continue to play the ball, then the ball is live. No, you do not have to. Those are not the rule. That's not the rule. That's not the NCAA rule. That's not the high school rule, depending on most states that I've coached in. And it's certainly not the rules for Major League Baseball.

It's just not the rule. It is a courtesy. It is a courtesy to keep, it is to end the play, to let them know that from my perspective, the player is identifying that from the closest vantage, this is what the player sees. And he's letting the opposing team know he's letting his teammates know. He's also letting the officials know.

But the officials have to have eyes on anyway. So the rule has nothing to do with, well, you need to raise your hand. There's nothing in Major League Baseball rules that says you have to raise your hands. If the official sees that it happens or doesn't see that it reaches, there's an official up with eyes that will go, you know what, that ball touch. It's like if you hit a fly ball and it hits a cable line above the field and the outfielder doesn't see it so he plays it. Well, no, the official will say that ball, it's his job to correct it and then go back and reset the game. The reaction to it has nothing to do with it.

The moment the ball touches that space, it's a ground rule, period. Doesn't matter whether you raise your hands or not. it doesn't matter. So those are the things. I mean, having done this, I mean, Utah, Carolina, D.C., Maryland, Virginia, all of the things in play, that it doesn't matter.

And I appreciate the fact that a courtesy to that, and I'm not going to let this hijack an hour, but for simplicity's sake. And the simplicity is when the thing touched. So, Bach, if, let's create a situation that if, if last night, yeah, we'll get to that. And again, I'm not going to let this kidnap a whole hour's worth of conversation. But, and I appreciate it because it's actually kind of the thinking behind the rules, one of the things I wanted to talk about.

where there are spaces on the field that stop the play. There are places on the field and things that happen in sports where the play is over. And it's for compliance sake, for safety sake, for rules sake. In those cases, right, those are the rules. And Wrigley Field has its own rules. but those rules are known, they're published, and they're available, and they're shared.

Get this. Before every game. As a matter of fact, there's several meetings. There's a meeting during Brack, as soon as the officials get to the field, there's a meeting. And then there's another meeting. That's what we need to call our baseball official guy.

But those meetings, happen long before. And then they set the rules for it. And if you said, there was an exception to playing at Camden Yards that if a ball, you know, hits a bird, but it hits the bird in the outfield, a beyond the outfield wall, then that's the rule for that building, the rules of the rules. And I appreciate you all. We'll get into this.

But yeah, you're right. It's taught at different levels by different folks. and, you know, it's all there. A couple of things in that. This was a week, and we were talking about injury. And again, there are rules of engagement. And William in California, if you want to hang on, you can. I want to get to where I was headed, and then we'll curve back.

There are rules of engagement for injuries. and again, everybody has their own set of rules for engagement. When do you, bot to your understanding, you're now coach Bach. Okay? Okay. And your team is winning by X number of points, and I put X for a reason. When do you resign and take your starters out of the game? Right. Yeah. Right. Depending. Right. Now, Bach, add to that question, a position. So how many points do you have to be ahead to take your quarterback out of the game versus your star running back versus your starting left tackle versus your middle linebacker?

Right. Yeah. And if you haven't set the rules and you don't know your rules, that's when stuff happens. And if you haven't learned that you need to have those rules in play, Bach, the same thing applies for baseball. We literally watch how many runs ahead and what inning is required before you take a pitcher out of a starting pitcher out of a game. Is there a pitch count? Is that pitch count uniform to the game? is a uniform to the opponent because quite frankly he may have 30 good pitches against the Boston

Red Sox, but only 22 against the Yankees because after they see him quite a bit, they get to him. Is the same pitch count the same for starting pitchers and relievers? What's the pitch cap? Your mid guy versus your closer. What's the pitch? What's the, hey, Bach, this whole choosing when you do what you do, thing generally leads to bad outcome. You should probably have rules for that within each team.

Because a skipper baseball will have, depending on how he like to play the game and how he likes to manage the game, right? Maybe he has a stock bullpen. So you know what? If I pull it by starter, it's okay. I got three dudes I trust. Not many people have three started quarterbacks that they trust. You don't have three quarterbacks.

on the roster, you just go, ah, he can manage the game, I'm cool. Because if you wouldn't pull that guy in the first quarter, probably shouldn't pull him in the third quarter. You probably wouldn't, as a matter of fact. Basketball. How many points ahead do the Celtics have to be

before your two best players can go send it out? Bach, is there an answer to that? Celtics particularly give up a lot of big leagues. That's been a hot topic. But I mean, it's really got to be situational. I think like you said, if you're up, you can just say, okay, four possessions. But what do you want to work on? What's the opponent next week?

Do you want, I mean, do you want to get live action still to a freshman quarterback versus the senior quarterback? I mean, so I think it's really a situation. Take him to school, bot. Take them to class. Let him know that it's all situational. But you have each in every situation. There are programs that have rules for this. There are coaches who have rules for this.

this. And then they're groups that have rules for this. And then a fan base will tell you, quite frankly, hey, man, I understand that you made a deal with Adidas to help them sell more black Nebraska item. But hey, we like our red. Right? And then you make a decision. You go, never, because somebody would have said, never changed the color of the end. Never. Fuck. Blasphemous. Blastream. At one time. Yeah. Never changed the color of the Nebraska end. Never changed the color of the helmet. Look in front of us.

We got colors all over the place. Right? But somebody would have set the rule of the president to say, Nebraska Husker colors are scarlet and cream. Well, wait a minute. How much cream are we actually talking about? And defines, give me the, which scarlet red? Is it the brighter red?

Is it, is it the fair to? consistent red? What are we talking about? Like, what's Scarlet? And if you go and add bug eaters to it, are you honoring the Husker Crete? So the rules of

the rules of situations is circumstantial, but you have to have a standard. Because we're only going to affect the color, we're only going to go against our natural boring colors. If money's involved. Right? Oh yeah. Look, for the right, price, they'll purple that thing up.

They'll put rainbows on it for the right amount of money. But that's the statement. Here's another situation in the circumstance, Bach, where actually having a standard matters. And I'll go into why. And again, each program has its own, each coach has its own, each fan base has its own.

And within the fan base, those standards break down in thirds. to never, there's the third that say never change the colors, ever. We are what we are. There are those traditional folks. Then you have the folks who understand, right? Who understand?

You know what? Go ahead and change it to white. Where are the all whites? Where are the all reds? Where are the all blacks? Go ahead. I understand. There's a third.

Hey, man. Don't you ever. Don't you ever. The same rules apply for this situation. And there's no right or wrong. It is just trying to find the right answer in the right place. Injuries. Injuries.

So Bach, let's, for the sake of discussion, and for all you listeners, it is your son. It is your son. And he's playing football. Right? And Bach, he takes a hit and he cannot get off the field under his own power. What do you as a parent want for your child? Help? All the help.

Yeah. All the help. Right. All the help. If you're going to err, do you err on the side of the full extreme or the least extreme? You want the full, hey man, do everything you can for my son, right? Right. Yeah. Okay. Now, it's a big game. Big game. Big ball game. Big ball game. and there is a toughness implied by limping off the field, right? And you're proud of your son, but the pride you feel is not more important than his help. Ever, ever. Rub some dirt on it, that's old thinking. Play through the pain. Old thinking.

Because Bach, if your son tells you, Dad, I'm going to play for the pain. son you're bleeding uh probably not that important right and you're not right or wrong in however you feel about let's say that your son hurt his knee okay hurt his knee and he's limping do you want him to get checked absolutely halfway all the way all the way all the way yeah all we want all the checks right yeah right if he is just deemed not able to defend himself on a football field. Bach, do you want him on the sideline? Yeah, I don't want him in the game.

Right? Yeah. But do you want him getting care? Is it important for him to be standing on the sideline with a bad knee? I guess that could be tough because, you know, if he's not playing, you'd rather get it as quickly as he can, right? If he can't move, you can't defend himself. Yeah.

Bach, how many times have you watched a football game where somebody's standing on the sideline and a tackle happens on the sideline and they roll up. Oh yeah. It happens. You want that happen to your son, bye? No. No. No. What's the best way to make sure that doesn't happen to your son? Get him out of the way. Get him out of the way. I just, I just, just go say, hey man, you protect the, you work from the extreme and work your way back. And no matter how you do it, thirds will exist. There are people, hey man, let that. They can. You kid enjoy the game. Like, let him be a good teammate. But is he being a good teammate being at risk standing on the sideline? Right? Because accidents happen. Yeah. Right? We know most people have

passed the driving test, most people, but we have rules. We have boundaries. We have speed limits. You know what the speed limits imply that we understand that you are probably going to be a good driver and probably under control. But in the happenstance, in the simple case where somebody somebody is not, you are at less risk because we put these boundaries in place. It happens in sports, all over sports, all over the time, all, all the time. Fans have their feelings, coaches have their feelings, organizations have theirs, fans, family, etc. As we talk about this stuff, let's just consider, let's just consider why things are in place as they are and what the ideal might be. it is not always necessary to have all the answers we simply try to get to the right question

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