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Bill and Bennett, you're right.
He says that I think AJ feeds off that kind of stuff, though.
He does.
He does.
It's the juice, right?
It's the sauce.
Bach is a friend of the heel in pro wrestling,
so they understand the mark.
and AJ uses it as fuel.
The funny thing is, is that you will have,
so we talk about the thirds, right?
That a third of the crowd will boo him incessantly.
From the moment, anytime he's mentioned to anything he does,
they will boo.
Then there's the third that will cheer, everything.
And those are usually, especially when it comes to AJ,
those are the young people.
The young wrestlers in the building,
love AJ. They love them
some AJ Ferrari. As a matter of fact,
most of them are agitating
the third who's bullying who are the old heads.
The old heads,
I get out of here with your
shenanigans and your
but the young kids
are like, mom, dad,
grandpa, Gigi, stop it. We love
this guy. And then there's the
middle third of folks who're just kind of watching the other
the two extremes go, okay,
the guy's wrestling.
there's think about this in the era of this sort of wrestling there's one a j farrar there's one
there's one there's not there's not another wrestler who can walk into any building that they
walk into and get the reaction that a j farore again there's none he's it like he's he's reached christian
Leitner status, right?
Right? Yeah. Like, who are those
iconic, like,
Bosworth? Yeah. Leitner. I mean,
Reddick had a tough time. Jay, Reddick. Yeah. Like Duke builds it. Yeah. Duke
builds it. Duke, think about that. That's funny, though,
that Duke level, that means the Nebraska wrestling is at Duke
basketball level. Right? And that, because if he's just a jerk on a
program, you don't care. If he's
not very good, you don't care. One,
you have to be good. The program has to be good, and
the events have to matter. Is
there anybody else in sports
at the college level
that could walk into any
gym
state, like baseball doesn't have villains like that?
Do they?
I can't think of one,
especially at the college level. Right?
Think about that.
Marshall Henderson comes to mind from last
decade or so. Is there, is there somebody from Iowa, maybe the coach? Like coaches can generate that
sort of heat, right? Basketball is who's, who's the least when it comes to going into other
buildings? Like who comes to PBA and the fans just give him the business? Well, I don't know.
McCaffrey, maybe?
Maybe. Tom Crean had quite a rivalry with Tim Miles. I think that was that, you know, for a while,
there was that.
but then there's no, I can't think of a player, an athlete.
I don't think, I don't think we hated Caitlin Clark like that.
No, I don't think so.
Right, like I, I don't think so.
I mean, she was the target in every building and she was the focus in every building.
But think about that.
We're literally putting AJ Ferrari in the Caitlin Clark conversation.
you have to be really good.
You have to be, you have to be generationally good for it to matter.
And then you have to have a different sort of persona.
Nebraska's never had.
Think about that.
Is there any other Husker who got that reaction in any other building that they went into in the Big Ten?
I wouldn't think so.
Isn't that weird?
That there's not, so this is what, but this is what,
what's happened. Listen, they didn't
boo Ridge Lovett. He was an national
chain. Here's what
also happened. They're starting
to get after Trelli, which is
you know, style of wrestling or whatever else.
And for a variety of reasons, right?
He and Mentot, they got after
a little bit. They did not go after
Cam McDonnell. They don't go after
Brock Hardy. But AJ,
Mentow and Ferrari
Folks are getting after it, Bach.
Just pointed there.
Now we get into the sticky wicket part of the basketball season.
Because focus, priority, mission, all those things.
Yeah, Jordan Burroughs.
Yeah, you literally just made my point.
It's just, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The songbird asked this question,
do we want to heal representing Nebraska?
I don't think that AJ's a heel, though.
I don't think anybody who's actually met AJ thinks he's a bad guy.
There are people that don't know AJ,
and you're basing it off of an example,
but then I always tell people, be careful,
be cautious, taking the one off,
or too often go, okay, that's who a person is,
even if I've never met them and understand that, you know,
we're correcting a long way and that, oh, my goodness,
we're being judged by what we do as college students.
Because I can tell you,
Bach, we were judged that way back in 1980,
DP wouldn't be sitting here.
Just going to say, I had healed tendencies in college.
You have to.
The greatest face turns when you were heel and you find out that, you know what, I was wrong.
There's a nicer way to do this.
Bach, are you the same guy that you were when you were in college?
Oh, no.
And just anybody in general, I mean, you'd point out the five worst, you know, times of your life.
Everybody would, that's why they say you have skeletons in their closet.
Everyone would be a terrible people.
Yeah, I, you know, listen, that is not my testimony, bro.
My testimony is I did not have it right.
I did not, I did not have it right for a long time after college.
I took too many college tendencies and turned them into adult tendencies.
And then I had to learn, hey, bro, it's time to put that childish mess down.
And there was no internet.
Thank goodness, there's no internet.
because who we, your boy.
Your boy.
So, I mean, let me ask this.
Would Tralee be a great representation of Nebraska?
Has been, yeah.
Right?
And they're bullying him.
They're booing him, right?
In all-academic, All-American and Christopher Mentot,
he would be a great-re great.
representation in Nebraska, right? Yeah. I mean,
Charlie's from Nebraska. Nebraska born and bred
and a national champion as an underclassman.
And a lower-seeded, a guy that came up
through some stuff, took a loss,
an early loss at the Big Ten, and then figured it out
and then won a national title.
Nebraska should probably rally for that kid, right?
When other people boo a hometown hero,
you should stand up about it.
You should know that this is happening.
Like you would want to know.
A big part of going back to Utah Valley
for Nebraska Wrestling is recruiting, for one,
two, partnership, three,
to represent and show the iconic wrestlers
Scotty Robertson and Brock Hardy
back in their home state.
And the reception, that is how the reception should be.
And it's amazing to watch how this thing.
Yeah, Eric, it's a thing, right?
We understand.
And Jordan Burrell still gets some of that heat, quite frankly.
Right?
He really does.
Yeah?
Songbird says this.
I'm a rally fan trial, but I'm not sure how I feel about AJ.
Have you met AJ?
The reason why we brought AJ in to do his show on Wednesday night
is so you could meet Youngstead.
man. There is not a young, now, hey, Bob, don't we tend to give credit for people who've gone through
some, some failure and some friction and then tried to get it right? Yeah. Don't we normally
cheer for the person who failed and gets up and tries to do right? The comeback stores,
right? Like, we, we tend to do that, right? Especially when it's a young person who then chooses
you to represent themselves, the better version of themselves through.
to say that my resurrection and my reclamation project
identifies firmly with the beliefs and stylings and faith systems of Nebraska.
That I want to do it because he tugs at the Nebraska singlet
for this, that, hey, I want to represent this.
I want to be a fair representation.
And I can tell you that on the mat and in Jim,
in that wrestling dojo that is, bro, that cave,
there's nobody who works harder.
He may be the hardest working athlete I've ever seen.
Like, I don't know anybody that works out as hard as AJ Ferrar.
Or that is a discipline in his, and what he puts in his body
and how he's living.
What he was versus what he is.
And then what is he intentionally trying to be?
and I think he's trying to be a great representative of the state of Nebraska.
Now, I got the opportunity to spend time with his dad and mom and sister at the airport as well.
And in a pretty profound, long conversation, we had seen each other several times adapted up and along the way.
But yesterday, sitting and talking and not talking wrestling, but talking life and family and love and faith and all those things,
that I understand how impressive the man is
and how impressive this couple is
because they've created three top-tier athletes.
Two of them will be all-Americans, right?
Two of them are already all-American.
One is a national champion.
The other is one takedown away from it.
And then the third, who, quite frankly,
maybe as athletic as the older too.
So whatever they're doing to get their young people
prepared to, one, handle the academic load,
two to handle the athletic load,
and then be a fair representation.
Again, one's at Nebraska, one's at Iowa.
Hey, Bob,
how many parents you know are putting several kids
in those programs at the top level?
There's not many.
there's not many. So
foundationally there's some good things
happening. And you can focus
on, you know what, remember that time you
stubbed your toe? That's who you
are more than, you can run five miles
right? On
top level time.
But you stubbed your toe tripped and fell.
And that's the video people show.
Right? That's not who, that doesn't
tell you about the five miles. You could talk about
Brock Hardy being caught in
the Splato, right?
It may
the Sprado had him all
over social media.
Yeah. But that's not who Brock.
That's not the Brock Hardy. I know.
I understand that that's a part of it.
But watching Brock Hardy grow through that and to grow from that,
I'm certainly capable of giving Brock Hardy credit for being the other version of himself as well.
And that in his humanity, he had a bad day on a big stage.
but he's had many great days on that same stage.
He's had great days on many of the other days.
AJ Ferrari, what he's doing,
a guy who is not a natural heavyweight moving up to heavyweight
and finishing second in the Big Ten
and being the number two seed in the country?
He's not a natural heavyweight.
He won his title in a lower weight, too low.
Bach, what are we doing?
So I don't know.
I can't tell anybody who to try.
choose to represent you.
If you have a problem with it, you're right.
You're absolutely right.
Let me, let me be clear.
I don't tell Bach who to root for.
Like, he, if he wants to move for Dominic, Mysterio,
hey, man, have at it.
Have it, Bach.
I think he's not exactly the, you know,
hand the ball to the official once you cross the goal line to me, guys.
So if you've got your different opinion,
but I like that.
that kind of bravado from an athlete or two.
Hey, I like the smurse and the touchdown leap.
I love Timmy Smith's cabbage patch in the Super Bowl.
I love Ricky Sanders doing the cabbage bed at the White House
and Ronald Reagan called him out and threw a touchdown pass.
I listen, but I also understand Barry Sanders tossing the balls with the official.
I grew up on Charlie Taylor catching touchdown passes
and just standing in the end zone with the ball in one hand in his hands raised,
not moving, just going, I have done all that I can do.
What else is there?
I'm okay with all of them.
But I am certainly for the people who are trying to represent themselves better
for themselves and the state of Nebraska.
