1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - Dylan Raiola's Freshman Season Review-December 4th, 2024

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, welcome in one-on-one with Coach Barry Thompson. Harrison Arns on the ones and twos. No DP just yet, but don't worry. DP will join us for the second and third segment. But in the meantime, we got the QB coach, Barry Thompson. You guys can join in 402-464-5-685 on the start of human text line. You can put a face to the voice, Facebook, YouTube X-Allow, channel 9661. Before we do, as always, we have to have the proper intro.
Starting point is 00:00:30 The autumn wind is a pirate blustering in from sea with a rollicking song he sweeps along, swaggering voicelessly. His face is weather-beaten. He wears a hooded sash, with a silver hat about his head, and a bristling black mustache. He growls as he storms the country, a villain, big. and bow and the trees all shape and quiver and fake as he robs them of their gold the autumn win is a raider pillaging just for fun he'll knock you round and upside down and laugh when he's conquered and won never gets old coach barry thompson how's going on this chilly wednesday night hey harrison how you doing man it's good to be here a quick shout out to the family i think i got a couple family members listening in tonight.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And the old ball coach out in Ohio just spoke with him a little bit ago. So let's get it cracking. I feel like David Bowie. You know, you know that song, Time, The Changes. Chit, to chase the strange changes. Yeah, so let's get a cracking. Certainly changes. There's plenty of Husker news.
Starting point is 00:01:53 We've talked about it all day. Early national signing day. You guys can listen back. The guys throughout the course of the day, a good, great job giving you updates. since we're here at the nightcap, a lot of that's quieted down. We're a little bit of the end of the season review here. We still got a bull game, which that in itself, it's a blessing for Husker fans. It's been all the way since 2016.
Starting point is 00:02:13 But we're coming to the end. Huskers finished six and six in six. The true freshman quarterback, definitely some ups and downs. Started the year good, really kind of struggled in the middle of the season along with that entire offense. Obviously, you had the Satterfield getting stepping down from an O. C position, Dan jumps in, but he just finished the season. in pretty well. I'll give you his stats here. So for the year for 250 or excuse me,
Starting point is 00:02:37 380 attempts, 253 completions, good for about 66%. 2,595 yards, 12 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, long of 60 yards. He did take 26 sacks though on the season, at rating about 129 if you're into that on the SPN's ratings. Thoughts on Dylan Rail on the freshman year. Yeah, it's probably, I don't know where stats are. That's probably the worst seasons he's had. And, you know, but when you read it, you know, take Dylan out of it. If you told me that was our freshman quarterback stats, you know, you'd say, yeah, he struggled a little bit in the middle, had some tough games and, you know, had some
Starting point is 00:03:17 interceptions. I think that's kind of how it reads. I know that's not his standard, but that's kind of how it reads. And then you throw in the fact that the offensive coordinator was changed, what, Nine games into the season. Yeah. And you've got to absorb bits and parts of, you know, little twist and turns and tweaks, parts of a new offense, maybe new way of thinking three games in. I think you did a heck of a job, you know, handling, obviously the stage wasn't too big for him, you know, and got used to what it's really like to be in the spotlight.
Starting point is 00:03:50 People talking about them every week, right, whether we should be talking about them or not. you know learning how to handle the social media what he listens to what he doesn't listen to how he manages all that stuff going to class going to class managing the workload during the season body probably hit 26 sacks 20 he took 26 sacks on 26 sacks so he learned a lot about recovery if he didn't know about it taking care of his body yeah and you made a bowl game and it made a bowl game. I think he would probably say it's probably one of the worst, statistically,
Starting point is 00:04:29 not a season that he would, I don't think you'll see him have another season like this, but a lot of growth and maturity and, and you made the bowl game. And I think, you know, celebrate that. I think it's worth celebrating. I don't care what the history is. You know, it's been a while.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Yes, 2016? Yeah. 2016. So you think about it, there are young Husker fans that were born then. So how old would they be now? And their younger years, they'd never seen the Huskers make a bowl game.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Right? So they don't know. So yeah, I think a pretty good season for them. A lot to learn from. But I think David Boy, time to face the strange changes. I mean, that's the new normal is things are going to change and how do you deal with it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:19 And then, you know, this goes on top of early national signing day. This, this offseason is going to be interesting. There's so many things that ties into it. You got the 105 cut down operations going on for all these programs. The portal is going to be, I mean, there's going to be tons of players in there. The portal is pregnant. With triplets, with triplets. It's going to be a lot of chaos is going to keep happening.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And I'll say this, not where I'm going to go with this. for the rest of the segment. But the more college football keeps going down, like I think we're still more years off before the dust settles. Like I was thinking maybe five years, like it feels like 10 years before things maybe kind of get to some normalcy. But this thing with the all NIL operations, the roster,
Starting point is 00:06:06 the conference realignment, the college football playoffs will probably expand to 18 teams before we know it. Like there's still going to be plenty of changes down the pipeline. At least that's how I read it. But on with Dylan Royola real quick, his rushing stats. No surprise here. He didn't really run the ball a lot if you're watching healthcare football. So 47 carries for negative 68 yards, 1.4 average.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Well, the sacks are going to eat that up, right? Yep, and that's the sacks. That's how you get to negative 68. On top of, he really wasn't not until late in the season really taken off and running. I don't know if that was Dana or Satterfield that got in his ear. So that's kind of how you get to a negative 68 with the sacks on top of you rarely run when it's there anyways. So again, true freshman quarterback, though, and if you put in all the tangibles that happen with coaching changes with the criticism of Satterfield, that whole fiasco, on top of just some truly unfortunate interceptions, tipped balls. Every quarterback has a few of those, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:08 What did you see in him in that year? Thinks he did really well and things he can improve on. Like for me, the easy one is you see 26 sacks. Offensive line was pretty good this year, honestly. There's just times holding on to the ball too long. I think that's an easy one for, you don't have to be an X. Well, you want to dig into why I was holding it. You know, and, you know, the past structure, you know, sometimes it's wise holding it.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And you're going to divide that into a lot of different things, right? So you can divide it into maybe guys weren't running the right routes, right? And I'm not blaming the receivers, but I'm just giving you reasons that, quarterback can hold the ball. Maybe he was trying to make plays when he shouldn't have made plays, right? He should have learned that, you know, an interception of checkdown is okay. Kind of a normal thing for a young guy to want to do. I wouldn't really hold it against them.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And then some of that is I don't know how much control he has over protections. I know there was a couple snaps that I was watching and I go, oh, he's hot. You know, like I could tell, there was a protection issue. And the guy came screaming in. So, you know, who had command of that? So you look at that, that can be broken down a lot of ways just rather than he just held the ball a lot. And then you get to this point that sometimes quarterbacks aren't clear on what they see, right? With rotations, different coverages.
Starting point is 00:08:32 He may not have been as sharp on what he was seeing and that caused him to hold the ball. So a lot to dig into when you see a quarterback hold the ball, what you think is. is too long. So, yeah, those sacks can, you know, a lot of reasons for sacks. It's like sometimes there's a lot of reasons for an interception. But, you know, this is a time of year where, you know, with the quarterbacks, we start up and crank up our improvement season here pretty soon. And one of the first things I always tell the quarterbacks to do is go back
Starting point is 00:09:00 through all their film and just look at it, look at where they left money on the table, start to figure out why they left money on the table, start really thinking about down and distance. I think when you talk about quarterback play, enough talk doesn't come up about down and distance. You know, everything is in context when you're playing, especially if you want to win football games. And down and distance matters. It matters. And a quarterback has to be in tune with down and distance, time and score, field position, right? All that stuff affects or should affect or kind of have an influence on the decision making that a quarterback does, especially when plays break down. You know, when something's not good, you know, run, not run.
Starting point is 00:09:49 What am I looking for? That type of thing. So a lot of self-study this time of year to go back through it, break it down. And then that stuff starts to inform what you're doing and what I call the improvement season. Yeah. And that's kind of where I want to head to next is we got about 10, maybe a little bit more here. like the areas of improvement that a guy like doing around out like a true freshman QB going back looking through the tape like what are kind of the common things that you imagine you see for a lot of these guys over that first year playing some power four I always want to say power five playing power four football right it's just digging back into the details of of each snap right just getting to I've used this word a lot about having command of it it takes a while to have command and especially with all. all the changes that he had going on this year.
Starting point is 00:10:43 It's tough to get to that point. But you want to get to that point. Hopefully, I think the O.C. has been extended. Yeah, so now. Satterfield is back as well. I don't know if that means a whole lot to you, but Satterfield is actually going to be the tight ends coach. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:58 So you're still going to be on staff, whatever the communications. Yeah, they don't have to like each other, as long as they understand who's the boss, right? So that's fine. You know, as long as it's clear who's the boss and who's in control of the offense. that's the only thing that really needs to get clear. Guys, just like teammates, don't always like each other, right?
Starting point is 00:11:16 Sometimes you have just a professional relationship. That's okay. But, yeah, so now he has a chance to kind of dig into the command of the situation. It's not the physical throws, right? We saw him make a lot of great throws. It seemed like they were fond of the corner route. It's kind of a hallmark of the air raid offense, right? They love throwing the cornerouts.
Starting point is 00:11:41 and I saw him throw those in different types of throws. So he's good at that stuff. But that command of the details of the offense, like I don't know what the protection issue was. But somehow the quarterback's got to be involved in fixing protection issues, avoiding protection problems. And that's got to be built into the past structure as well, right? So if he knows he's hot and he can't handle it,
Starting point is 00:12:06 maybe he has a scat protection. Scat protection is when the back is out. So he's got a five-man, he's got a five-man protection. Maybe he's called a slide on it. Either he can flip the slide or maybe he's got a problem. And one of the ways you can solve the problem is if the receiver is alerted, hey, I need a different route. That might not have been built into their offense, right?
Starting point is 00:12:25 So those types of things are the things that you want to go to work on. It's all this mental part of playing and how much study you're going to do. The physical part, you know, he'll go in. He'll know exactly how his body needs to be. prepared to get through the season. All quarterbacks should be working on their athleticism, all of them. I don't care if you're a runner or not. You better be working on that aspect of your game. And then the throwing stuff, you know, he's with Coach Christensen. He's got a good circle there. But he may want to work on some specific throws. Maybe some throws that he just missed that he normally
Starting point is 00:13:03 can make. You know, and then he goes to work on those things or he goes to work on throws that are specific situations. If he's not going to run, he also wants to get better about how he's managing inside the pocket, right? That's important. And a big part of that is protection, right? How is your protection set up so you know where your escape routes are? So a lot of digging into the details of what you're doing in a granular way is really what's required in the off-season. I want to ask you about one of the mechanics that it's a little bit of it's great and then maybe sometimes it's bad or at least it's something I know. When you get a guy like Dylan Rayella who has all these crazy angles where he can release the ball and more often than not
Starting point is 00:13:53 pretty accurately as well. You saw that throughout the season. Some off-platform throws. At the same time, though, those were some of his bad balls that he's throwing out there trying to make a play, maybe trying to do a little bit too much. Like when you're coaching guys, you know that maybe have some of those more unique abilities. You don't want to necessarily take it out of their arsenal, but at the same time, you kind of want to rein it in. Like when you look at Dylan Aureola, how do you work with guys like that where it's
Starting point is 00:14:22 totally a weapon of theirs, but the same time and get them into trouble? Right. You just make it more accessible to somebody. Sometimes you can have a quarterback with a really strong arm, right? And he just, he likes to go downfield. And so the issue is, in either case, whatever this thing is, whether it's a guy who's a very good runner, right? He's a dynamic runner, right? He's good outside of the pocket.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Whatever it is. You've got to essentially get to the point where you play winning football. And winning football is understanding down and distance. It just really is. And so when a play comes in, you understand why the play is coming in based off the down and That's what being called, right? There's a game plan and there's a purpose for the play being called. And as a quarterback, you have to begin to understand that.
Starting point is 00:15:12 There is the play, and then there's a play caller, right? And you have to understand not only the play, but eventually get to know the play caller and how they're trying to attack the game. What is it that they're trying to achieve? What is it that this past page is telling you that they see, right? You have to understand that. because a lot of times very infrequently is the play caller wrong, right? It's like you should have gone here.
Starting point is 00:15:34 This is what I'm seeing. So it's that thing. I think, you know, you get together with Coach Hogerson and you kind of, you know, so they kind of have a melding of the minds. Those are the best quarterback operations that you see, a coach and a quarterback that are together for a while. You've got the young Bo Nick's guy with Coach Peyton, right? They're beginning to have a melding of mind.
Starting point is 00:15:57 and Bo still does some crazy stuff. I saw him. He did some crazy stuff in the game. But he understands not only the play, but why the play's coming in and where he should be looking, how he's going to execute it. And so that's the type of stuff that that is a leverage point.
Starting point is 00:16:13 When you get a quarterback that has a better understanding of down distance and why plays are being called, it tends to, the ball isn't held very long, right? Because no play caller would have you hold the ball really long, right? Right? And no play caller would have you. miss an easy throw when it's a chance to convert their first down, right? It doesn't matter how you throw it.
Starting point is 00:16:33 They're not calling the play to be an incomplete. So it's that kind of understanding. I know it doesn't sound very sexy, but that's what it's going to take to get better and help the team win. But playing winning football is really important. Yeah, and you know, to that point, I am feel pretty confident about Donorale going forward, just based off the the IQ that he has.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Like you got to hear some interesting media comments from Dana Holderson and Dylan Raoul kind of laughing about, you know, Dana will start trying to spit out the plays that first week when he was really taking over. Yeah. And Dylan Rao is like, I know where you're going. I know what you mean. I got it from here, coach. Like stuff like that is great to hear from a true freshman quarterback.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Air raid tends to be really short language. And if you tell me that he's in trouble spitting out, I'll tell you without looking anything, that was probably trending toward West Coast language, right? So West Coast language can be wordy because there's a word for everything that you want to do. And so if Coach Holgerson was trying to, you know, kind of, I don't know where this term comes from splitting the baby, but trying to, you know, it's not really good to split a baby, but if he was trying to kind of compromise something, like I don't want to change things on them, but here are the concepts,
Starting point is 00:17:50 okay, this is the language that I need to use to call it. I can understand it because in West Coast language, which you have to have a picture in your head as you spit out those words. You have to get it. Like I've always said on the air, if I say Green right X-Shift the Viper right, 382 X-stick-Lookie, like in my head, I know exactly what's going on. I have a picture of it. If it's just words on the page to you, you're like, man, what are all these freaking words?
Starting point is 00:18:18 Can we just call smashed? Can we call, can we call Halo China, you know, and be done with it? or 51, you know, like those, and that, that tends to be the language of air raid, right? Like they, they have 92 as one of their calls, right? 92. And what you're describing is almost, I wonder if that's exactly what was going down there. Yeah, yeah. Because, again, getting old lingo, not trying to mix any of it up, being careful with it.
Starting point is 00:18:45 But no, stuff like that, it does give me confidence that you got a guy in Dylan Raola who, by all means, just reading the tea leaves, seems like he still wants to be here that this is, you're too like you got nervous you're nervous about him leaving huh i i'll say this much no but i was surprised to hear the amount of people at work uh yeah like it was a real conversation for a little bit and yeah that's just part of the era today right i mean all these guys can leave it it really is and especially when you feel for a player you know everybody has a certain affection for him which is another thing that he has to manage too right he has to understand that there's a lot of Hope invested in him.
Starting point is 00:19:27 You know, he's the hero. Yeah, finally. I mean, hey, he did the first thing, right? Right, right. He's the hero. And that's a, that's a kind of a strange spot to put a young man into, right? As he's figuring out who he is and, you know, where he wants to be and all those things. And I guess he's been under the spotlight for a while he's grew up in the family.
Starting point is 00:19:44 But still, you know, he's out there on his own more than he ever has been. I know he has a sports system. But, you know, he now has the keys of the car. And, you know, he's a young man. And, you know, his social life and that type of thing. So let's give him a lot of credit for managing the season that he did. Yeah. And, you know, I'll always say this, especially when I see young guys with the spotlights,
Starting point is 00:20:10 whatever you think about Colorado. I know the Husker fans out there got their opinions, but, you'll listen to some of those guys out there, like a Travis Hunter. Like when you actually listen to him talk, you're a respectful guy and handles the BOR very well. Dylan Rayola, hell, even a guy like Brownie, James for the Lakers. Say what you will. Handles the PR stuff great.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Because that stuff, you know, most often cases for athletes stays neutral, but you can make it a bad situation. If you really messed up. I'll ask you this before we throw it to break here. When Caleb Williams was drafted, you know, to the Bears. Yes, your Bears. You spoke to him.
Starting point is 00:20:46 And he's like, the biggest thing you can't do to this kid is you've got to help him relieve some of this pressure. Like, you've got to do everything you can because that's the biggest problem for all these quarterbacks is the hype around them, the hope around them. You mentioned that with Dylan Rayola. You know, how do you get the QBs that you coach? You know, maybe if they're, they're highly touted or they're going to a school that's going to have a lot of pressure. Right. You know, one of the things kind of keep in mind to keep that, I don't know if it's
Starting point is 00:21:11 even a humble attitude, but not letting you phase you. Yeah. So, you know, I had that experience this year with a quarterback who had a great year, through for 2,700, through for 33 touchdowns. First year as a starter, completed 70 percent of his passes. But it was, in his case, it was just, there were two things that were really, um, helped them. And I think they're universal. Um, first of all these guys have different personalities. But the one thing, uh, and I found myself on the sideline more than I ever had then. And it, you know, I'm normally up top. But what was important for me is I had to run interference for him. When he came off the field, uh, there were so many people that had
Starting point is 00:21:48 something to say to him. And, uh, not, not bad stuff. Just they all had, and a quarterback, if you watch in the NFL, you'll see them a lot of times you're just sitting off to the side. They may have a quarterback. Maybe he's got a tablet and his hand, but he's just relaxing there, right? He's in there. He's got to get his thoughts together. And so in this quarterback's case, it was real important. And what happened was the more he came directly to me, the less things people had to say to him.
Starting point is 00:22:19 And it was really helpful for get himself together, think about the last possession. I might have had a word to say to him or something, but it was generally like, you know, keep it going, that type of thing. You know, we had a mistake. We would talk about what we call pace, play after critical error. Let's bounce back. And then when he felt ready, then he would go interact with his teammates or get up on the sideline.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Something as simple as that. Sometimes I heard a great story. I guess we got a break coming up, but a great story. I've also put myself between, I heard Matt Hasselbeck tell this story. and I did a similar thing a few years ago. I had a coach that told me, very good coach, and he said, listen, I'm going to warn you.
Starting point is 00:23:01 He says, sometimes I will yell at the quarterback, and it's an old school tactic. I understand why. But this particular quarterback, I knew he wouldn't take it well. So I said to the coach, I said, coach, that's fine. I said, but the first time that happens, will you let me do it? You know, would you let me do it? So what I did, it's just like the hassle back story,
Starting point is 00:23:23 I got up in front of his face. I said, now I'm looking like I'm mad. And I need you to look like you're pissed off. Like you're disgusted with what I'm saying. I just need you to get yourself ready for the next thing and that type of thing. Right. And the coach felt that he accomplished what he wanted to do, which is he wanted everybody to see that the quarterback got chewed out. And it looked like he got chewed that, but we never chewed them out.
Starting point is 00:23:47 So sometimes it's things like that that just relaxes the quarterback and lets them go out and play. Yeah. And, you know, again, just kind of wrapping up this whole point. I thought Dylan Royal did a pretty good job, not letting too much. Because even through that really tough, I mean, it's November. A lot of Nebraska fans kind of fear November. It was a brutal stretch there for a little bit. But turn it around, Wisconsin game. Iowa, we can say what we will.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Brutal ending to it. But the offense still shown improvement. He just somehow only managed to score 10 points with 40 minutes of ball. but at the same time you were at least 8 for 17 converting third downs at a better rate not looking at a bunch of third and longs so hopefully and we got a bowl game left you win that one who knows what the optimism is heading in during the off season we'll throw it to break one-on-one QB coach barry thompson should have DP joining us for the second and third segment don't go anywhere we'll keep it rolling all right welcome back in one-on-one with QB coach barry thompson you guys can join in 402 4664 56685 I've started him in text line, Facebook, YouTube, X, Outload, Channel 961.
Starting point is 00:24:54 You want to put a face to the voice. No deep heat, just quite yet. Hopefully, we'll get him before the show wraps up. Don't worry, we still got the man of every Wednesday night. QB coach, Barry Thompson. And we did get a text, a couple of them here. This first one here, I want to ask you about this because this is a pressure that's definitely out there. I know it's out there because that's exactly what the text is about.
Starting point is 00:25:17 And you do hear this from JP. you take the NIL money, you deal with the pressure, which in some ways is a fair argument. When it comes to the NIL money, you know, you think that actually adds to some of these guys. Well, here's the thing. We talk about the money. I think I heard recently and I really agree with this. I think the collective is the more damaging of the two. If a player is out there and he is in a position that through his abilities or whatever,
Starting point is 00:25:49 Somebody wants to pay him that NIL money. Yeah, go have that. And there are responsibilities come with that. But he's still human. He's still a young guy. It doesn't mean that he's immune. You're not bulletproof just because you give me some money. You know, you don't give me money.
Starting point is 00:26:07 You know, you still have to conduct yourself a certain way. It's a certain environment, a challenging environment with a lot of variables. And a lot of the variables you don't control. And so to say that. that it won't stop him from feeling that he needs to produce. Yeah, I mean, I hear what JP saying, but, and I understand it's pretty harsh, but, you know, just giving somebody money doesn't mean
Starting point is 00:26:35 that they're not human. And I don't mean you have to go soft on him, JP, but understand this is a young man. There are a lot of variables that may have impacted his performance, least of which he was new to the job. It was his first day at work. And, you know, he got the team to a bowl game, which hasn't been done since 2016.
Starting point is 00:26:59 So you can get inside of that and criticize it. But, you know, he's one of the guys that are going to a bowl game. The team will get those extra practices, which are so important and so critical to putting things together. It gets that extra time to relax. And, you know, it can be the start of how they, handle this process it could be the start of a much better season so hopefully how they manage this process in these 15 practices that they get really serves as a launching point for what's to come yeah and
Starting point is 00:27:34 you know I had to read that comment because I mean that comes up a lot and it's going to keep coming up and by the way thanks thanks for texting in I'm not critical of the text so thanks for texting Yeah, and it's just the closer that college football gets to really an amateur pro version, make it the G League essentially. I mean, you got the NIL money with it. Great schools as well. I mean, get an education if you choose to do so. But yeah, I mean, it's just kind of getting to that point where, you know, people aren't going to always be thinking about their 18-year-olds. They're going to think about the dollar signs attached to that 18-19-year-old.
Starting point is 00:28:09 But that being said, you mentioned the extra practices. How real is that in terms of development? especially a program like Nebraska, where that's, you know, you think about 2016, that's eight straight years you didn't get those extra practices. Yes, yes. I mean, football is practice. You know, I'm fond of saying football, you practice six to seven times for every one game you play. So if it's not getting done in practice, then it doesn't get done, right?
Starting point is 00:28:35 So anything that you see on the football field on Sunday, I'm telling you, it's happened in practice. Right? So you get those extra practices. Everything that you do in the improvement season is to be efficient with the repetitions that you do get when you get onto the football field. And so if you say you get 15 extra chances to be on the football field, the reps are what make players better. And so that's more repetitions. I mean, as long as it's handled correctly, you know, I've seen some teams, you know, you watch them through their bowl. bowl game experiences and they've had terrible seasons, right?
Starting point is 00:29:17 Like they didn't recover because the bowl game stuff was a mess. So hopefully they get through it the right way. And you'll see them start to earn that NIL money, whatever it is. And by the way, by the way, if they're handing out money, how do you turn it down? You understand? There is a market out there. So, you know, if you and I had some type of ability where others are getting money, I mean, how do we turn that down?
Starting point is 00:29:43 We are a capitalistic society, right? Oh, absolutely. Okay. And the amateurism in football was gone a long time ago. For me, the NIL stuff and the collective is just, it's just more transparent. I mean, this stuff was happening. There's a story of Johnny Mansell that his dad went to Kurt Sumlin back when Johnny was there, Johnny came out in the draft, and his dad went to Kurt Summers, said,
Starting point is 00:30:08 look, if you give my guy $2 million, he'll stay. I mean, that was a discussion when Mansell was there. So don't get a twisted. This money has been exchanging hands and pockets forever. It's just out in the open now, out in the open. Yeah. And again, not only is it, A, there's a market for it. Anybody in the right minds are going to take it.
Starting point is 00:30:29 It's been happening. Now at least it's out there. And there's a paper trail that we can follow. And at least kind of get an idea on how much everybody's spending. And it found out that the number for quarterbacks is around a million dollars, which, you know, might be. be surprising. It's fine. But to your point, that number's been flying around.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Let me help say something, just a thought for listeners that count about the money and so forth. Whenever these money is mentioned about players, very seldom is there a discussion about the person who writes the check. Like, what does Shottany, the guy out in the Dodgers? How much did he get paid? What was the contract amount? You remember? Oh, it's outrageous.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Yeah. I want to say it's like 60 million a year almost. Okay, so what was it? Like it was close to 500 million or what was it? 400? something. Yeah, so 700 million. Okay, so just think about that number. Think about that number.
Starting point is 00:31:15 There is somebody who at the conclusion of that deal said, man, 700, we, they went out, the guy who wrote the check went out and celebrated that night. Now, you think about that. And that was for one player, yes? Yeah. And the guy who wrote the check who committed to the paying him that money celebrated. He celebrated. it. And by the way, he's not, he's not eating bologna sandwiches, right? He did it and he went to sleep at night very easy. So when you see this money going out, this guy gets a million, that guy gets too many. Just think about the person. What position would you have to be in in life that you say, yeah, we want this quarterback here. Let's shrunk him 200 million. I think that's a good deal. I'm happy with that. You know, 2.1, no, I'm not going that far. But 2 million, yes, that's a good deal. We love it. And that there is, there's a,
Starting point is 00:32:08 is a person writing the checks and they're happy with it they're happy with the transaction that's kind of you know my whole thing and i know people get disgruntled by it um which you know it's fine but every time i kind of think about it like to your point i didn't cut the check like right i'm not at a lot right it doesn't pan out yeah my huster pride maybe a little bit in the tank there but you know it's not coming out of my pocket there's a booster somebody really believes in it and they're yeah and by the way if it doesn't work after for them. They're usually there to write a notice check. So this well of money that goes to the athletes, you know, there's the business calculation.
Starting point is 00:32:50 We're not privy to the numbers. But what I do know about very wealthy businessman, I've been fortunate being around them, when they go in and make a deal, they see at least four to five ways that they can make money off the deal or they don't touch it. They don't do the best case, worst case. They don't do that. they say they look at an opportunity and say are there five ways for me to make money at it that's why they don't that's why they always make money the numbers are always in their favor so when somebody cuts a check or makes a commitment to one guy for 700 million dollars he feels
Starting point is 00:33:24 really good about that deal really good and he probably walked away while he's popping bottles and said you know i ought to go into 800 if you asked think about that it's the crazy part like We're not far away. Yeah. We're going to get a billion dollar deal here. Yeah. And these next few years, which is insane to say, but somebody, sooner than later, but like a wild swing on it, it's going to be MLB because they tend to have the longer
Starting point is 00:33:48 term deals. Yeah. Or maybe even MBA. But someone's going to hit a billion. Do you remember when they freaked out when A. Rob was getting $25 million a year to go to the Rangers? Everybody lost their mind. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:59 It's like, and now it's like, okay, just throw it on the table. Like, you know. Hey, I mean, when you. When you realize, everyone realizes how much money, the NFL, NBA, MLB is bringing in. Those numbers start to make sense. Real quick, I'll get your thoughts on this, get the text on involved. We got Chris Collinsworth, one and only. Actually, unknown texts are chiming in here.
Starting point is 00:34:19 What does very think of Dylan working with Mahomes? I think it's great. I think it's great. You know, like when Kobe was playing, they used to kind of criticize him because he walked like Mike and he tried to be like Mike. worked out pretty good for it if Dylan if Dylan's a great you know Patrick works his behind all and you know if that's who he's modeling himself after I mean can you blame him you know who do you want him to model himself off after like somebody's not successful so you know he knows him he kind of has his mannerisms kind of walks and stuff like that that's okay you know you
Starting point is 00:34:54 think about musicians when they start out they always start as cover band artists right playing other people's music. And then, and they, and they, and they're copying. So they're very successful people. They're playing things that, you know, like really good. They, they, they, Led Zeppelin or, you know, Green Day or whomever, I'm dating myself a little bit. Blink 182, right? They're, they're copying those guys. And then they're copying those guys. They find their own voice. But they're not copying somebody who just stinks. They're copying somebody who's had some success. They put a song together that people enjoy. So there's nothing wrong with it. Go ahead and imitate Patrick if you want. Just win like Patrick.
Starting point is 00:35:33 There you go. I will say they stretch that narrative a lot too. Like if you're just on X, you think he's like taking it over the top. I saw it was actually Fox football on their ex account. He's pointing for a first down. Yeah. Their caption was with a Mahomes impression.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I'm like, well, I think everybody does. He mimics the way he walks around and does that stuff. and, you know, there's little things with his hand. It's fine. He's a fine person to mimic, you know. Exactly. Yeah, we'll throw it the break here. Don't go anywhere. One more segment.
Starting point is 00:36:06 QB coach Barry Thompson joins me. We'll talk to you in a little bit. All right, wrapping things up here, one on one with QB coach Barry Thompson. Harrison runs on the ones and twos back here at 1040 O Street on the corner. You guys can get in your last second comments. This is already him in text line or any of the streams. All right, Barry Thompson, wrapping up the show. Won't have DP here.
Starting point is 00:36:26 So I'm going to give you the option. we can wrap up talking about A, the greatness or potential greatness, I should say, of this rookie QB class in the NFL, or B, arguably the greatest player in the NBA that we've seen in a very long time. I'll let you pick. Let's talk about the rookie class and the NFL. Who's catching your eye? Who's catching your eye? You know, like, obviously being biased, K. Williams has gotten better, but Bo Nix. I mean, I know everyone really likes
Starting point is 00:36:58 Jane Daniels and they should. He's been phenomenal. But Bo Nick's like at the beginning of the year, he's shown some flashes, even preseason, just looks really comfortable. And even now, like you can turn on any game.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And he has one play in there where he's doing stuff a little bit more than you'd expect your rookie quarterback to do. And I've just been amazed how comfortable he looks into that system. I should look what his stats are because he's been really efficient too for his rookie year. Yeah, so Boonex this year. He's 17 touchdowns, eight interceptions on the year, throwing for just short of 3,000 yards. Yeah. For a rookie year. I mean, that's phenomenal. And, you know, if I had to pick a rookie QB right now, I'd probably get to Paul Nick. Hold on now. Hold on. It's about winning now. You know, you got two that are not just performance,
Starting point is 00:37:49 without winning. So, yeah, Jaden, Jaden's been really interesting. I think what they had to do more than anything else is I think the tape kind of caught up to the commanders a little bit and the schedule caught up to them and they had to make a few adjustments but then you saw the way they handled themselves. I saw Bo one of his throws was a laser down the field. It was it Monday night. And then Jameson came back and threw one. It was back to back throws. But it was an awesome, awesome throw. It made me jump out of my seat. He still does some rookie stuff. And they're He has his little moments where he does that. But yes, you've got a quarterback-friendly coach who went through hand-picked this guy,
Starting point is 00:38:34 and he picked the right guy. You know, there's a couple of coaches out there who know exactly what they're looking for when they look at a quarterback. And evidently, Sean Payton is one of those guys. And I think Kevin O'Connell is another guy at Minnesota. I hate to bring that up in your division. but they have a way of working with quarterbacks to make them productive. And the Bo Nix is interesting, but let's keep track of the winning thing.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Let's keep track of the winning. The commanders, Denver's 8 and 5, and the commanders are 8 and 5. There we go. Unfortunately, my bears are the lowly team here with four wins. Yeah, and they're going through another change there. Didn't they just fire somebody recently? Yeah, so Iberflus got the news. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:19 He's out of there. But that's a cycle. And I saw a post, Harrison, where it's a cycle, like a, they're mismatching head coaches and general managers, right? And so the head coach has a player, then they fire the coach. Then the general manager likes it. Then the new coach comes in and gets rid of it to get rid of the general manager and all that stuff. So once they stop that cycle, I think your bears will be fine. Yeah, I mean, the rotating door is got to stop.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Mitch Trubisky gets drafted. The head coach gets fired that year. Justin Fields gets drafted. the head coach gets fired. And now J.O. Williams gets drafted. The head coach gets fired. It's like if you're going to fire the coach, do it before the rookie QV comes in.
Starting point is 00:39:58 We like pissing away a year. I don't know what that is about the Bears. But, you know, that's where you give credit to the team like commanders who finally got their head out of their rear. Yeah. And then the Broncos, who I don't think it ever really got that bad. I think the Russell Wilson drama was a little bit, the media kind of spiking it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I don't think it was ever truly that bad. One thing we know is, He clearly wasn't showing Peyton's guy. Exactly. So whatever that dynamic was. And when people in sports, sometimes there's a saying, I'm going to say, sometimes in sports, either an athlete or a coach, sometimes will act like a jackass. But there's a difference.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Sometimes they're doing it because they want to win. And then sometimes they're doing it just because they just want to act up. And when you see what's going on with the Broncos now, clearly Peyton was doing that stuff because he wanted what he thought he needed to win. Absolutely. Final one, and we'll get out of here from next year. Best pure passer in the rookie class in the NFL. I'll let you go first.
Starting point is 00:41:01 I think Jaden is pretty smooth stroke. You know, he, yeah, I like Jaden. He didn't get the ball. He made a throw. He was rolling to his right, went all the way back across the field. There was a Monday night game not too long ago. complete 91% of his passes. Yep.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Andy can run a little. I think it's what it was. Andy can run a little bit. That's a package that you need to keep your eye on. Nothing against Bo, but you want to keep your eye on that package. I agree with you. Yeah, I'd probably still lean Bo, but Jane Daniels, I'll just say this much. I'm going to enjoy watching this rookie QB class.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I think there's... We haven't even seen Michael Penix. or McCarthy. And those guys are promising as well. Appreciate the time as always. QB coach, Barry Thompson, give him a follow on X.
Starting point is 00:41:55 We'll do it again next Wednesday. As always, have a great rest of your Wednesday night. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye.

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