1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - Fairfax Football Academy QB Coach Barry Thompson - August 19th, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's time to go one-on-one with D.P. Coming at you live from the couple Chevrolet GMC Studios. Here is your host, Derek Pearson. Brought you by Mary Ellen's Food for the Soul. On 93-7 The Ticket and the Ticketfm.com. Tuesday, boom. In your face. In your face.
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Starting point is 00:00:50 Hanging out with us on a Tuesday as we, it is the Tuesday of Forever Football Eve, and we're digging it a lot. There'll be college football games this weekend, and I'm all giddy, loose-bumpy about it. You can follow on the, streams, as you should. If you were doing your thing, you're either on the ticket app. You haven't downloaded the ticket app. You should. You can follow on social media as well. You can follow
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Starting point is 00:01:53 with a rollicking song he sweeps along, swaggering voicelessly. His face is weather-beaten. He wears a hooded sash. With a silver hat about his head and a bristling black mustache. He growls as he storms the country, a villain big and bow. And the trees all shake and quiver and quake as he robs him of their gold. The autumn win is a raider, pillaging just for fun.
Starting point is 00:02:29 He'll knock you round and upside down and laugh when he's conquered and won. So the deep, resonating, vibrant voice of the late great John Fasanna. But that's not enough for this man, this guest. We get to set the tone. It's football season. Harrison Ernst, show this man how much you love him. Yes, sir. You got a treat.
Starting point is 00:03:02 We got. Proud 45. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Hey, hey, hey, hey, let's go. Let's go. Let's go broomwright nasty. Z. Peel.
Starting point is 00:03:31 You're going to go fake 37. That's what you know. Hey, Bert 37 slash. Business is about to pick up, Barry Thompson. 1977. NFL, CBS intro, or anyone who's wondering what the hell this dude is. Oh, Barry Thompson. How you doing, brother?
Starting point is 00:03:49 I'm doing good and getting better, man. Thanks for having you all. Doing good and getting better is it should be on a shirt. Yeah. It's going to get it. out a shirt. We got to get it. Hey, man. We got to get that
Starting point is 00:04:01 good and getting better. It's been far too long, but as we set the tone for this week, and, you know, Dublin has become the home away from home. I do want to ask football fans. And Barry,
Starting point is 00:04:17 specifically to you and to Harrison Arndt, is having the first major college football game in another country the right move? Barry Thompson, sir? That's interesting. Not that particular. I just know that it's going on and we're to get down. But yeah, I think for the good of game, it's not bad. It's not bad. But I tell you this, if it was my team, right? If it was my college team, I'd want that first game at home.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Although I understand the attractness of traveling out, I'd want to be at the home stadium. I would think for my first game. Yeah, it's, you know, Nebraska has recent. in history with it and it didn't go well. Yeah, it's not a crime. What we did there was a crime. Yeah. There's two ways to look at it. Yeah, it would have been nice if they had actually finished. It depends I do. Like, if we talk to the NFL too, like Jacksonville, like I'd be
Starting point is 00:05:10 incredibly discouraged for how often those guys leave me to go across the pond. But if you do it once in a while, like, I'm pretty indifferent on it. If you're in a relationship, Barry Thompson, correct me ever for a, if you're in a relationship and you and your significant other and their friends currently consistently decide to go somewhere else to celebrate. Yeah. No, you start to feel some kind of way about why you all leaving. My cooking ain't good enough? You got to go.
Starting point is 00:05:39 We can't come over to my house every now. What's up you? Like a little bit, a little bit. A little bit Saturday Night Live. What's up with that? What's up with that? It's been a minute since we have that. on a ticket. That used to be started.
Starting point is 00:05:56 It is the time, you know, Nebraska is eight days. We're eight days from Kansas City and year two of Dylan Raola at quarterback, year three of that rule, year one plus. Year one plus
Starting point is 00:06:12 of Dana Holgerson, actually, you know, he's zero week plus four, right, plus five. He's been in the building and had an opportunity to find that look around he got to clean up you know a little few of the closets right he got to get in the backyard and pull up some things and playing some things and you know as Barry you're familiar with that you're familiar with going into new programs with young
Starting point is 00:06:40 talent yeah where does it start you walk into a new building with with and you'd hear the whispers of a quarterback being in the room right hey Barry yeah I got a guy but he's got some things, but we got, we're trying to get it right. What's on the list, the Barry Thompson list for quarterbacks, if you're a new coordinator and you're walking in to look at the room, are you evaluating what he does well, what he doesn't do well, what he's asked to do, what you think he can do? What's on the list for a quarterback evaluator when you walk into a room with a new quarterback count?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Everything you just said. No, I think, well, obviously, at the college level, you've picked somebody who has some certain level of talent, certainly above, you know, most of the people that are playing, or, you know, come out in high school. So you're looking at what that person does well. You're also evaluating, or really not evaluating, but really pressing on the preparation part of it. Once you, for a good quarterback, once you get to the high school level, and you want to be a good quarterback, just the high school level. You have to have an appreciation that you're
Starting point is 00:07:54 going to spend more time off the field preparing to play than you ever were on the field. And then at college, it exacerbates itself, right? It gets even deeper. So we really want probably more than anything else that I would think that I'd want a guy who really, really submitted himself to understanding all the details of his position. Obviously, if he's playing at college level at PS, You can throw the ball from here to there. If there's a mechanical thing to clean up, you'd like to see him clean it up. But really that understanding of every detail of the position and the effort to go into that. You know, when you're looking at quarterbacks at this level, nobody says, well, he's not fast enough or, you know, he doesn't have the arm strength.
Starting point is 00:08:39 You know, that doesn't come up. It's the other things that are so important. And I think, I don't think I know. I know that that level of preparation off the field. is the distinguishing characteristics between a very successful quarterback and a quarterback who's just kind of good. Through that,
Starting point is 00:09:00 that because talent in the room at a program like Nebraska, playing in the Big Ten conference, having an established coordinator who really has a plan for what he wants his offenses to look like. So Barry, how is DeVen?
Starting point is 00:09:19 Dana Holgerson and Dylan Raola meeting? Are they meeting in the middle of the bridge from either side? Are they meeting over at Holgerson's side that, hey, listen, here's what I like to run, here's what I like my quarterbacks to do, hear the rules of engagement, or does Holgerson meet Raola where he is, and then try to get him back to his side of the bridge? How does that rule? I'm not sure if it's a bridge. And if it's anything, I think it'd be more of a gap than a bridge.
Starting point is 00:09:49 because Holgerson likes to, you know, get the ball down, feel likes to score points. And obviously, you know, Dylan has that kind of person out as a quarterback. He wants that ball and you want to go score. So I wouldn't term to bridge it might be a gap. Now the gap would be how do we get that done? Like, how do we close this thing?
Starting point is 00:10:07 And I think the challenge would be for one or the other side to see that whatever is being suggested can kind of go that way. So, you know, when you look at air rate systems, you know, Y-Cross is a big part of certain patterns that are a big part of it. They're looking to stress safeties more than they are kind of looking to hit underneath coverage, although they have that design in it. And so I think the big thing would be, you know, learning how to balance that, right? That there's times when we want to go downfield.
Starting point is 00:10:39 There's times when we have to take what's available. So I think that would be more of the gap. You've got two guys who want to get that ball. they know that the passing game is a prime asset to score in the ball, not that they're against running. That's a lot of things about air raid offenses is you lose track of the rushing yards that it accumulates during the course of time. But there's a certain way that you're going to prosecute and look at the field.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And I think it would just be a matter of closing that gap. I want you to do it this way. Or you can get what you want through doing it this way. where you can get, you know what I mean? I think there's small differences because you have two mindsets and ability to do it. Yeah, and that gap, the space,
Starting point is 00:11:26 as it narrows, then you can go together. And it's much easier to go together. The coordinator and the quarterback are going together instead of one pulling the other or one dragging together. And there's one more important component of GPS, I don't interrupt. But yes, we can have all that stuff out of a quarterback,
Starting point is 00:11:41 but man, what you really want is you want a leader. You know, you really want a leader. And I think Dylan has that kind of personality where, you know, he interacts with teammates and they kind of can galvanize around him. And that is so critical to that's the other component of all this other stuff that has to be put in there. And the third thing is, you know, he's got to be able to go out and fly, right? You can't screw things up. Yeah, it's that part that you mentioned that for this type of.
Starting point is 00:12:14 system and the attack points that a focus is again putting pressure on safeties. As a quarterback coach, how do you, whether it's through play calling, smart eyes, footwork, how do you put pressure on a safety? What should the Husker fans be looking at to know that Hogerson and Railroad are together in putting pressure on safeties and it looks the way it's supposed to? Right. Well, the big thing with a too high look at you get a lot is you can do it one of two ways. You can kind of hit both safeties.
Starting point is 00:12:49 You can have past structures that hit both safeties in your isolating one. Or you can kind of attack one safety with two and then put him in a bond. Normally those concepts are kind of reserved for backers where you put backers in conflict. it's just stretching the field a little bit and getting to the safeties and getting them to move and then throwing off of those things. Empteen different routes that you can have going. I think you saw a little bit of a crossing route. It takes a little time, right?
Starting point is 00:13:20 So pass protection comes into this really any time that you're throwing a ball. You need a little speed to make it happen faster. Receivers have to understand. I think more in this system, in my opinion, receivers really really. have to understand not so much the route but really where they need to be and they need to be taught you know there's umpting different ways to get to where i where i need you but i need you there right and the timing of all that coming together kind of creates the structure and it becomes a little tough to defend now you back that up with somebody who can run the ball and anytime you give
Starting point is 00:14:01 most defenses more than one thing that they have to really concern themselves with it gets to be a little too much for defenses. Unless it's an extraordinary defense, right? It becomes a little too much for defenses, and there you go, right? So you're either stretching them horizontally, stretching them vertically. You can do that same play. You know, the commanders now run a system, and we run one to the high school level where there's a run call, but there's something attached to every run,
Starting point is 00:14:28 whether it's an RPO, whether it's a screen. And so it kind of prevents defenses from cheating, as long as you have a good decision maker. And then while you're worried about this horizontal thing that's going on, that same look may be a pass that's going down and getting down the field. So they're pretty exciting attacks. And then all of this DP is really great, you know, throw for yards and touchouts. Man, you want to win a football game.
Starting point is 00:14:54 You know what I mean? You want to win a football game. So it all has to be wrapped up in a way that you're going to win and prosecute a football game. In saying that, there's so much of this. We're talking to Barry Thompson, quarterback coach. In having these conversations with you, I get the opportunity to share with people details of some of the things that we talk about so freely. And you just mentioned the RPO game and how important it is, and it is a part of Holgerson and what Nebraska plans to do.
Starting point is 00:15:27 It has a full cap. because the running aspect of it certainly add to it and take away from it if you don't do that portion of it well. But let's go through the checklist of what an RPO is. So when Husker fans see this thing line up, backset, receivers in play, whether it be motion, what are you trying to attack and then what his reads are? Yeah, well, it's different. Traditional RPO, right, you have some mesh point with a running back, and then you see a defender coming down and you pop the ball out.
Starting point is 00:15:59 But I think the RPO writ large is you have a play that is a run play. But there's a screen or a pass attached to it. And so what the quarterback comes up, you know, you can have them do either way. He could read the box and say, well, it's good to run. But more likely what he's looking for is any type of leverage that he can get the throw off. You know, so if, you know, we're two by two, which they run a lot, two by two, and I've got, you know, off coverage on number one. And I got a backer sitting way inside.
Starting point is 00:16:29 well, you know, that's a great, great look for me to throw a bubble, even though I have a run call. So it's those types of things beyond just traditional RPO where I'm meshing and looking for someone to come out. They're just really looking, let me put it this way. In some of these systems, you could call a run 75% of time, but they may throw the ball 50% of time. You understand? Yeah. Run may be called. And it's really the offense has gotten to that point where they're attaching all kinds of plays to a run.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I want to paint the picture for Nebraska fans as they watch that sometime RPO play calls and the options that go with it, things that decisions that have to be made, that more importantly, RPO is IQ. It's more IQ than athletic. Yes, yes. Reading situation, circumstance, down distance, number of player defenders in the box,
Starting point is 00:17:26 and that the number in the box only, really matters if you have the wrong personnel on the field. That there's a way to, if it's six in the box or seven in the box, there's a way to attack it anyway. So through that, in year two for Dillon-Royal, year one, 67% completion, over 2,800 yards, which I think is lost in some of the discussion that a true freshman came in and threw for 2,800 yards,
Starting point is 00:17:58 in most cases, you're ready to fully engage and celebrate in that. 13 touchdowns, 11 interceptions. Of those numbers, what's the number that's going to let folks know that Dylan Raola has taken the next step? Is it higher yardage, higher completion, more touchdowns, your interception. Interceptions. There's only two people touch the ball in every snap in offense. It's the center and the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:18:25 That primary objective is take care of the ball. So no matter how those interceptions occurred, you lower that. You just think about the same numbers you gave provided with two interceptions. And you'd probably easily see the difference in a game or two, right? So it's really going to see him take care of the ball. That makes he's making cleaner decisions. And the whole operation is, I'm not blaming all 11 on him, right? We know how these things can happen.
Starting point is 00:18:51 But that means there's a whole cleaner operation going on when those interceptions go down to, you know, say under five, you know, five, six, depending on how many touchdowns you have. You know, if you're getting up around the 30, 35 range and touchdowns, you know, maybe, but you still don't, you don't want anything around 11. You want single digits if it happens. Barry, it's that thing, though, that maybe Big Ten type of play or style of play, defensively, defensively cues up some of the stuff, right? Some of it's a reactionary.
Starting point is 00:19:23 We can say that we like to talk in thirds that a third of the Big Ten is going to be more talented than you are and are going to force you to do some things you don't want to do. A third of it, you're going to be able to do whatever you want more often than not. And then it's that middle third that determines the outcome of games and seasons. Because if you have control over those Big Ten defenses, we know the top six Big Ten defenses are all, college football caliber defenses. So our POs and play calls and quarterback decision-making, it's important. We know that the bottom third, you know what? You got a pretty good shot of doing okay against them.
Starting point is 00:20:08 It's the middle third. How do you win those games from the decision-making mindset? Taking care of the ball. You know, we've talked about in terms of baseball a lot. You know, a lot times in baseball, you know, have the term just it's not easy but just make the plays that are there to be made right we talked about that so you can go a long way in football in terms of getting to you know the say the bottom of the top third you can get there just by taking care of the football not by not committing penalties right
Starting point is 00:20:43 and by we've always said you know executing the layups right that persecates things get first downs change field position you play pretty solid defense You don't give up big plays. You know, somebody who's going to score on you that takes a while to do it. You're solid on special teams. You're not doing any stupid stuff in terms of special team play. So you can get there to the bottom third of the top third just by literally being solid, right? It takes some consistency to do it.
Starting point is 00:21:13 But if you have a quarterback who's operating a system where I can always find an advantage and it can deliver the ball and you have a few people that can break a tackle and, you know, possess the ball, then, you know, you're, you can, you can get people fits. Yeah. And it's, it's, it's, it's always in this space. And as we talk about it, you know, I forgot to Barry, I forgot to give people the disclaimer that contrary to what I say we're going to talk about, uh, that one on one is we honor the dump family rule is that it is a box of chocolates and you're never quite sure what you're going to get. Um, so you buckle up and you, you consume whatever we have in play because we go down rabbit holes and that's how it works talking about dylan rioly year two
Starting point is 00:21:56 two freshmen now again and those numbers we just gave he led all fbs freshman and completion percentage i was gonna settle the true freshman out there he had the best season for starting he was effective in completing passes yep yep to all freshmen now again the number of interceptions is an accumulation of a lot of other things down and distant situation circumstance bad receiving play, pressure, getting the ball out, a ton of things, right? Some of those are desperation throws that fall in the way. He was 13th national in completion. So again, making better decisions and again, more time with Holgerson should enable him
Starting point is 00:22:38 to have better completion rate even amongst that. And then he was third amongst all true freshmen in totally and passing yards. So it's, we're talking about somebody that can get the ball. downfield you don't normally think of Nebraska receivers as explosive. So when you get that number of yards as a true freshman, this one,
Starting point is 00:23:01 but I ask the question before we go to break, Barry Thompson, are we asking too much of him in year two to expect him to be in the top third of quarterbacks in the Big Ten conference? No, no, I think everything coming together, there's no reason.
Starting point is 00:23:17 The 67% completion percentage is good. You know, if you're a junior, You know, it's a senior. That's a pretty good rate. You're getting up that 67, 70% with these types of games is good. I think the bigger challenge, just from where I said, the football is not going to be an issue for him. What I always wonder about is the perspective that he's taking on the season to kind of, you know, with all the attention that is around him, right? And I always worry about, we're always thinking about quarterbacks, that emotional component of, of, you know, kind of feeling like you're bearing all this weight, right, that the expectations are so high. And that's what to me makes these guys really spectacular because the right guy can just shrug it off and I'm going to just go play football, that other stuff I don't listen to. I don't think that comes naturally.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I think that comes through a learned experience, right, of how. to handle things, how to say no to certain things. That's another whole component to this besides just the X's and O's part of it. And I'm as excited to see how he handles that part of it as well as anything else. And by the way, the Huskers are going to stub their toe at some point this season. Something's going to happen. There's going to be a game where they're not in the right spot. Maybe they drop a game that everybody feels they should win.
Starting point is 00:24:42 You know, maybe they get off to a horrible start in a particular game. game. Those are the things that I'm really looking for. And that kind of tells you about leadership, cohesiveness, and team confidence. Because those are the things that really make great seasons, overcoming something collectively together. So I don't know if I answer your question, D.P., but that's kind of what's on my mom with him. Yeah, that's, again, that's the rabbit hole. I really wanted to go down because in setting the table for this thing, you have the opportunity to just remind folks. This was a freshman and a new coordinator. And this is year three of the of the mat rule thing. Barry, when we come back, we'll talk about what happens in year one and
Starting point is 00:25:26 two to set expectation for year three. You as a coach, you've been in that situation. Talk to me about that. We'll get those answers from Barry Thompson when we come back. You're listening to one-on-one with DP. Sponsored by Mary Ellen's Food for the Seoul on 93-7 the ticket and the ticket FM.com. I love that, man. Getting down just for the funk of it. Getting to one nation under a group. I mean, just imagine one nation under a group.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yeah, just for the funk. Somebody would ask for it to be a journey. Some would ask for it to be Neil Diamond, right? I don't care. I don't care. It's a small town boy living in a little. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:26:27 It could be, thank God I'm a country boy. I don't care. It could be, any other just one nation under a group would be a beautiful thing. Whatever puts us in a collective vibe. Oh, that would be good. Imagine everybody just
Starting point is 00:26:42 for a moment, just on one vibe. But isn't that what sports is? That it's ability that 90,000 people in Lincoln, Eraska can get together, hear the notes of accord and understand that it's time to stand together. And, you know, it doesn't matter what song it is.
Starting point is 00:27:01 The same applies in Charlottesville, Virginia, when the band strikes up. We know that in South Bend, Indiana, you can hit the first three chords and everybody's bands. The horns, the horn section from the, from USC and the Trojans setting everybody off. It just. And we can't forget those crazy cages down in Baton Rouge.
Starting point is 00:27:27 They let you know, don't they? They let you know when it's, we're about to get down. And we, listen, we, as much as we don't like the Ann Arbor folks, we have, we all understand when we hear, one, two, you know what to do. And the way old's the victors is coming and you just have to, you know, the UCLA 8 count, you know it's coming. That's what sports does. That was actually the vibe when I posted to know.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I shared tonight, I said, strike up the band. Yeah, man. Strike up the band. There's nothing about it. Hail varsity here standing at the corner of 11th and O on a home game Saturday. And the band happens by 11th and O, and they strike up the first chords to Hail Varsity.
Starting point is 00:28:13 we all forget everything and get together. Yeah, and you know what, and going deeper than that, everybody who's been around that high school Friday night game too, right? And their band had a certain rhythm when they walked in. You know, we worked at a couple schools where they had a distinctive thing, and you play that, and that starts a vibrate too. It's a really cool thing about sports, a really cool thing about music and a really cool thing about food.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah, it is, it is why we love what we love. Is Nebraska's ban traveling to Arrowhead? I would imagine that they are. I hope so. I don't have to be cool. I would imagine that they are. They don't always go on the road. And this is a
Starting point is 00:28:56 this is a neutral site game. This is a neutral site game. It'll be 60,000, you know, Husker Reds. But, you know, when Sensi tells you, they only sold 6,000 tickets. Oh, man. Blime of me.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Like my stomach. My stomach hurt just to hear him say it. Like it's just, just the look on his face, it literally is like he was standing on an elevator and the only person in there farted. Like he, he, that was the look on his face. It was like, oh, man. Cincinnati, they feel like they're going to be mean. I was listening to their head coach to at their last scrimmage and he was livid. Well, but he's right.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I think he knows what room those guys. He wants them. Well, but he has talent. I agree. I've said this. I said this and some folks got irritated when I said that three of the four, three or four of the best players on the field will be Cincinnati Bearcat. But you need for the best team to be Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:29:56 And that, like the impure numbers, I need for the next 18 of those top 22 to be Huskers. I need for them work better together. And a lot of it's in play. That pressure being on Matt Rule year three. where he's had success. Holgerson and you're talking about a new defensive coordinator that folks have kind of bought into from all that he said.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And then, and then you have an effective and proven special teams coach, which will give you three or four plays better than you've had in the last six years, which by every other metric, those six plays have been the difference between Nebraska being good and not good. And supposedly, we got something else. Archie Wilson, which we got to verify, but I'm awfully curious.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Okay, Barry, I'm glad you're here. I'm going to paint the picture. The media darling of Nebraska's preseason is, you ready for this? Talk to me. It's their punter. Really? He's fun. That is, see, that's the, that is the, that is fun.
Starting point is 00:31:05 You can't. That is the correct response. You know, when we started talking about social media about three or four years go, I always thought that that was the thing, that it could be somebody in the golf team. It could be somebody on the, you know, Tennessee. I knew tennis, but somebody that had a lot of personality, right, and had a platform, would attract a lot of attention. So it's interesting that the punter is a media darn. I got to get hip.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I got to get him a follow to get hit to what he's doing. But he's a kicker. And they're supposed to be different anyway. So I like it. Well, he's even amongst kick. He's super different. He can kick with either foot. He could be tricky as, you know, first fans and all sorts of things.
Starting point is 00:31:51 He's got a great person out. Yeah, I love it. I love it. But here's the thing, Barry. We've been in those rooms where one or both of the kickers, punter and kicker, it was their first game. Yeah. His first American football game will be on national television in Kansas.
Starting point is 00:32:12 city in front of the go. You know, some people that are pretty good, they, they tend to announce themselves. Uh-huh. So to put this in the best light, you know, with this confidence, he may be announcing himself to say, hey,
Starting point is 00:32:28 I am somebody to watch. Now, the other way, you know, that ball can go off the foot at any time. New Luke, like, announce your presence with authority. The Australian part of it certainly matters. But again, through camp, and again, for what we, what we're told,
Starting point is 00:32:48 it's a really difficult ball to handle. He's got really good accuracy. He's got all the things and he's got the great heart. So it's like there's several reasons, but you had exactly the response that I thought that if we're going, we're talking about a big and freaking time football conference. We're not talking about playing against Joe, Minimo, and Jack from down the street. We're talking about he's going to be kicking against Michigan. He's going to be kicking in the Big Ten conference against Iowa in brutal weather.
Starting point is 00:33:23 He's got some folks that he's going to have to compete against. And I'm not sure that's the story I want to lead. You know what? The fighters fight with the kicker. Yeah, you know what? It's interesting. We had a scrimmage Friday, and there were, you know, the classic high school script where you know, 10 plays, 10 plays, 10 plays. They take a break and they decide whether they're playing a quarter or not or can do special teams or not. And so it's probably about an hour and a half into this session. And they decide that they were going to punt. So this kid had been standing around probably for four hours, basically. And he gets out and punt. And it was a type of punt where you heard the coach, well, we should just going forward on fourth down. Because you know the kid can kick, but that was his one moment, right,
Starting point is 00:34:15 to get on the field and kind of thought what you're talking about here. It's a tough business. Here we go. Either his account is going to blow up and get big, or he's going to go down quick. No, his following is huge, because they have been talking about this since day one of camp. I will say the,
Starting point is 00:34:35 the what how we got on to like the mainstream media was not great I did feel I didn't even play it I played a real short on pick a week next because like this guy's probably heard this like all damn day I mean he just got off guard but how he got to the mainstream was a little bit different tell the story here's just so yeah he asked him about his family and then he had a moment I do think the question just totally got him off guard so you do kind of see him starting to tear up all a little bit recollects himself and then answers the question but that's what makes the question but that's what makes and America's like they really felt for the kid after that. He's got people pulling for him. Yes. Like at the national level in a very unique way, he got there. But people are definitely rude. You know what? That brings up an interesting thing, D.P.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I'm sorry to cut you off. But when you find out why people play football, you sit in the room and they get to share why they're playing football, that is a really power. those are some powerful things that can happen amongst teammates, that they share the exact reason why they're playing football, what got them into football, why they keep playing what motivates them.
Starting point is 00:35:46 That's, I've had the chance experience it a couple of times. And, I mean, the stories that I heard, it's just unbelievable, unbelievable. It's a great story and a great moment. As I said,
Starting point is 00:36:01 talking about football that if you tell me of all the stories you want to leave, what's your first story off the bus? What's your, and if you tell me that Dylan, I'm the first person, or if you tell that you've got some big six foot six, 330 pounder who throws people out the club, tell me you've got a hammer, nail it running back,
Starting point is 00:36:26 tell me that you've got an antelope and a graceful unicorn. Tell me, you've got, You've got hitman and assassins in the front seven. Tell me you've got ball hawks and ballers in the back four, back five. Tell me all about your defensive coordinator who's got every coaching mantra on call and rolled up and ready to hit you with. I think it's more of a sign of how bad special teams have been than anything else. That it's like we almost can talk about it. You got a point, D.C. I mean, Barry, if you walk, if you want to.
Starting point is 00:37:01 You walk into, and again, this is the Big Ten. If you walk into the Big Ten nightclub, big ten nightclub. Yeah. Right? Where there are NFL ones and one bees all over the place, right? Future super millionaires. And you're walking, you pull up in the Nebraska bus, and the first dude off the bus is your Oskie punter. That's up, Bill.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Hey, man. Come on. All I think of is replacement. I think of. Come on. Hey, listen. Hey, to be honest, Dylan, Dylan might like it because it provides a little cover for him.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Attention all over here and let it go. 100%. 100%. All right, Barry, we're off the edge. We'll go and break. We'll come back. We'll close out with closing thoughts on Barry time. You're listening to One-on-One-on-one with DP.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Sponsored by Mary Ellen's Food for the Soul. On 93-7 The Ticket and The Ticketfm. Oh, Harrison Arns. Just don't ruin my optimism, BP. I like to look towards the bright sun in the morning. I'm all for look up at the sun. Cover your eyes, let your heart accept the vitamins from the sun. Yeah, maybe that's it.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Maybe I just can't blind myself looking into it. My thing is I wasn't casting doubt on the rest of the program. I just said as a coach. as a coach, if I'm going into a fight and the first thing, the one thing you see, you do scouting report, first thing that pops up is the punter. I'm chuckling.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I'm gonna giggle like a schoolgirl on the first day of, like, chocolate. I'm just, this is amazing. This is amazing. He could be the best, listen, he could be Ray Guy, and I still would chuckle. I mean, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:38:57 He could be Reggie Robey. And I, Reggie Robey. Bruh, that's just me. Those Iowa teams with Reggie Robey as their best player. Remember the Colquitts used to hold down plenty for a little bit? Oh, my goodness gracious. It was the thing.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Tennessee just absolutely just, they got giddy over the Colquits. And it was, yay. Who's the guy? The Colquitts in the Matthews, right? The Matthews. Back of the day. Tom Dempsey. Tom Dempsey.
Starting point is 00:39:28 He's a guy that's, I think. Yeah, but he had a Hall of Fame quarterback and Archie Manning playing for him. They didn't leave with Tom. Bramowitz had the receiving streak record for Tom Abramowitz. Wow. No, Danny Abramowitz and Tom Dempsey.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Tom Dempsey, listen, here's my thing. From football purists, which I would think that Nebraska fans are. Special teams is a part of the game, man. Well, you are digging deep. Yeah. You are digging deep.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Hey, hey, hey, let's get to year three, building year three. Yeah, all right. Talk to me about this thing, that in that he has found success in it. And that what happens over, so give me year one, year one as introduction, cleaning, breaking it. Year one, you know, you want to get rid as many people as you can as fast as you can, right? The ones that don't match what you're doing. The portal kind of helps a little bit, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:29 and you kind of rebuild that. You kind of get more of the people. I think there's a combination between getting the talent that you want to need to compete, which is a must, and then also the types of people that you want in the building. And then year three, hopefully you've had enough chance to get most of that together. But the third thing,
Starting point is 00:40:48 the other thing you're really looking at in year three is scheduling. Right? You want a schedule that kind of favors you a little bit. That after you do all that work, you need the, the schedule to kind of help you. Some coaches will tell you you schedule wins. Within reason, you schedule wins, right? And that's what you're really looking for in year three. So you're hoping the schedule
Starting point is 00:41:10 comes together. You're hoping that the people that you have attained are the right talent level and the right people. And I think in this day and age, because money is a huge factor, if you're not at the top of the heap, if you're not a Rockefeller, if you're not, you know, a multi-multi-billionaire, so to speak, then you're going to have to take some chances on some people who you think you can develop, right? The development game isn't completely lost, right? But there's somebody that might be a little bit raw
Starting point is 00:41:42 or somebody that you can coach that position that got them and you hope to get something out of it. So you're in the business of looking for value as well as whatever money you can spend, and you're hoping that you put that whole elixir together that you have a team that can go out and play solid and not make a lot of dumb mistakes. In year two, the standard has to be raised, right?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Mm-hmm. And then the same for year three that year two cannot be acceptable. Well, I'm just saying, when you're getting paid a lot of money as a coach, or just if you're, you know, you have a coaching job and it's your job, I think you're going to kind of hedge your bets
Starting point is 00:42:24 and year three, you know, you're looking at year one. You kind of got a feeling the marketplace what you can get, what you can't get, how much money you have to spend, what this is going to look like. And then you're hedging a little bit in year three with your schedule. So you want to the extent that you can control your schedule, you want to give all that stuff that you're asking to buy in a chance to be successful, right? You don't want to go out and schedule yourself out of wins. with a group that might be two years away, right?
Starting point is 00:42:57 You wanna kind of get a schedule where the group that you have has a legit chance to be successful. And then from there, now you can start building on the success. So it looks like they have a schedule, it's pretty not bad. You've recount this a couple times. And so now it's, you know, can you get the bowl game, right?
Starting point is 00:43:22 I know everybody's jacked up, but it's really can you get that bowl game. Can you get that six win? And then then you go from there. If we if we said this, that in year three coaches work from in fixing what you don't do well or excelling, highlighting what you do, which is closer to the truth. I think the thing that you're coaching most in year three is how to win. That's what you're coaching most. And that formula is that's where the kind of alchemy, the little bit of artistry comes in and being a coach, right, of looking, what's the best way for these pieces to kind of work together?
Starting point is 00:44:07 Are the, is the offensive coordinator and a defensive coordinator kind of in sync a little bit about how this is going? Have you matched them up, right? So if I want an offense that's going to score a lot, I need a defense that's going to give me back the ball a lot, right? It just can't be offensive. Like, I can't score, and then you turn around and give up a 15-play drive in the quarter's over. So there has to be some marriage of the philosophies of the offensive quarters and the defensive coordinators and the defensive coordinators in a relationship there because things will change at points in the game.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Sometimes it's not going really well. And maybe you could score or something, but you need to really construct a drive, right, to give the defense a little bit of a rest or, you know, those types of things. And that part of it is really important in terms of the staff. And then you want to make sure that the special teams guy, you know, isn't off doing stuff that he wants to do. Like he decides it's a good time for a trick play. And then I know it's not. I'll punt the ball away.
Starting point is 00:45:05 So all of that has to kind of come together in year three, starting from the top now. Barry, it will be a weekly check-in to get your updates and your suggestions, your screen grabs and your sites and insights. I think those are. important for us all and for my emotional sanity. Just remind you that what I see. Your alma mater of scrimmages tomorrow night. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Let the coach know we're rooting for him. I am expecting more blue and gray goodies. So we'll get that. Very time to thank you, kind, sir. Thank you. We're a ticket weeknight, Harrison Arons. We'll carry you through. Tristan Domes is in the building.
Starting point is 00:45:49 He should have a decent night for you. Be good to each other. Simply because.

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