1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - GOAT Talk: March 22nd, 10am

Episode Date: March 22, 2022

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It's time to go one-on-one with D.P. Coming at you live from the couple Chevrolet GMC Studios, here is your host, Derek Pearson, presented by Beatrice Bakery on 93-7 The Ticket and the Ticketfm.com. Welcome everybody to one-on-one. We're going to have some goat talk. I think it's, I thought it found it interesting. some folks were sending out brackets with goats. The various goats from different sports and where they rank and rate. Along the way,

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Who's the best? A bracket was put together and it had each sport, the goats, right? The greatest of all time. And then it gave them rankings kind of with an NCAA bracket type deal. imagine where you would put the boxing goat so who is the boxing goat and then yeah Muhammad Ali we sure is it Mayweather that's that's that's that's my goat is it is it now the thing is are you going off of yours or are you going off of how do you how do you determine the go the go right so so because you could say may I mean he never lost there's that he held multiple titles

You could say that. Is Tiger Woods the goat of golf? See, that's a hard one because people would say he re-energized golf. He, if not for his injury, may have broken the record. But he never did. So we'll never know. Is he the, is, is Jordan the goat, LeBron the goat, Kobe the goat, that depends on who you ask?

Will Perim, who's the goat? Cream, underrated goat. Right. Which is weird to say. Right. So who's the goal? So let's start with hockey. So we can, can we.

I mean, you can start with hockey. Can we assume that Gretzky's the great one? Yeah. Is the goat. It's not Sydney. It's not Ovi. He's got records that will probably never be touched. Well, Ovi is in the neighborhood.

Ovechkin is in the neighborhood. So we have to like ponder that is that. Gordy Howe, there's some, you know, Lemieux, there are people within that space where you, Bobby Orr, they had Bobby Orr as a 15 seed, by the way, in this bracket. They had Ali as a two-seat, which I think is just crazy. But here the one-seat in sports, according to this bracket. Jordan is a one-seed, Brady is a one-seat,

Tiger Woods is a one-seat, Gretsky is a one seed. Okay. I see no problems with that. The two seeds, Simone Biles, Muhammad Ali, Babe Ruth, Messi.

Okay. There are some people who will argue Messi is not even the soccer goat. Yeah, Ronaldo is a three seed. Federer is a three seed. Federer's a three seed. John Jones is a three seed. see

LeBron is a three seat the John Jones some of these you might get some people's personal feelings in there or you might have people taking what happened

not on the field of play mat court John Jones is the greatest mixed martial artist ever yes so on the mat

in the octagon yes nobody touches him he's the goat although Amanda Nunes is the woman's goat, and she's number 14. Underrating the women, how dare they? Four seats.

Barry Sanders, Mike Tyson, Michael Phelps, Barry Bonds. In what? There are very few scenarios where that makes sense. Those four names. But you're trying to put, so imagine that you're trying to put, you're trying to give, you're trying to give value to the sports played, right? Because as Olympians, that you have Michael Phelps as a four seed and Usain Bolt as a 13th. I'm disgusted by that.

That one, I saw the, I saw the match up. And I saw, they're matching up against each other. I saw that and I have disgusted. Well, I'm really mad. Because I'm taking the 13-4 upset. I don't care what anyone says. I'm mad because they took sports movies. They made them the 16s.

They made them 16-6. So Jordan's matched up with Air Bud. Wayne Greskes matched up with Happy Gilmore. Tom Brady's with Bobby Bushet and Tiger Woods is with Ricky Bobby. Right. They're just like, ah, first round wins. Whatever. No chance of a 16-1 upset.

I don't understand why they did this thing that they did, though. I don't even know. So the 15 seats, and this is deep. So the greatest softball player to ever exist is Jenny Fentz. She's the 15th seat, and she's going to go against Babe Ruth. Okay, so this might be controversial to some people, but I'm going to say it anyways. Babe Ruth, you know, some people's, some people's goats. A two seed maybe?

Some people's goats, whatever. He played before black people were able to play. I don't count any of his records. Okay. Well, I mean, because you've got people in this face. Muhammad Ali versus Bobby Orr. Simone Biles versus Sean White. Mia Hamm and Little Messy.

That's unfortunate for me and ham. That's right. Like you put... That's rude. You kind of put their sports together. You 100% set her up for failure. Right. And I understand and be like, oh, it's a 15 and a two-sitt.

No, you set me a ham up for failure. Now, here's another one that. I have issue with. You have Serena Williams as an eight seat. Eight. She's the greatest women's tennis player, possibly the greatest tennis player. Eight. And you put her against

Kate Ladecky as a nine seat. Oh, I'm sorry, Katie. Serena's taking that. Well, but why would you do that? They put Gordy Howe as an eight versus Mario Mew. And then they, so this is a thing that they did that was really weird. So they put Joe Montana as a five seed against Jerry Rice as a 12 seed.

So I saw that and I immediately thought if you're not the goat at your own position, I can't take you further than somebody who is possibly considered the goat at their position. And maybe the goat. Sorry. Sorry, Joe, 125 upset Jerry Rice. Yeah, it may be the biggest, like Rice may be the goat of football. Yeah, sorry about it. It's Jim Brown and Jerry Wright.

And you put him as a 12 seed. Bro, this is crazy. Mike Tyson and Jesse Owens? Walter Payton is a 10 seed. Walter Payton's a 10 seed matched up against Lawrence Taylor, who's a 7th seed. So now, but case and point. So that you're saying that Lawrence Taylor, what you're saying is Lawrence Taylor is one of the 28th greatest athletes, which is true.

Which is true. So you have to look at it that way, that the top four athletes of all time, based on this pool, Jordan Gretzky Gretzky Brady Woods And then

behind them Ali Biles Messy and Root Top 8 Is that your top 8? No it's not

But messy should be in the top 8 Messy should be Who should not be in Bay Ruth is the only one Is the Babe Ruth Bay Ruth?

Bay Ruth But that's one out of Bebrith The others I'm I guess I'm okay

Because, like, I, I guess the other two would, no, I'm not moving, I'm not moving Gretzky, I'm not moving Jordan. Maybe Tom Brady and Tiger Woods, but I can't. Right. Because Tom Brady, greatest quarterback of all time, Tiger Woods, arguably the greatest golfer of all. I mean, you could probably move him down like a two or a three seed, but he would have to be the highest rated golfer easily. Okay. So, so then your threes. And again, this is all in order, right?

this is purple. LeBron, does LeBron, is he supposed to be in the top 12 athletes of all time? Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay.

Not even a question. Okay. Bones Jones. I would. I would not put him in the top 13. Top top. Has MMA not been a long, long enough? Around long?

We don't have enough. We don't have enough. Enough evidence. Right. I would want to. You know who's not on this list? Who? Anderson Silva

Connor McGregor he didn't do it long enough okay fair he reached the pinnacle really quickly and he was there for a while

but it wasn't long enough Roger Federer is Federer the greatest tennis player male tennis player and the fact that Federer is a three and Serena's and eight that's just no no

switch it I would switch it I really would switch it I would top 16 I like Rafa Michael Phelps in the top 16, no.

I mean, he's like one of the all-time gold medalists in the Olympic history. This is the one, right? Bonds is definitely up there because you have two different bonds. Barry Sanders. Barry Dunblong in top 16. Barry doesn't? Barry doesn't belong in ahead of Lawrence Taylor. Well, no.

Lawrence Taylor, the greatest defender of all time. He doesn't belong in ahead of Jerry Ray's. Okay. Yeah, we got to move down. Tyson's in the top four, so top 16. So those are your top 16. Tyson doesn't bite a guy's ear off. We're still talking.

Right. And then here's the top 20. Other folks who make the top 20. And remember, here are folks who are not in the top 20. Magic Bird, Kareem. Well, Kareem is in the top 20. Joe Montana. No.

Right? Like, Mario Andretti. Don't know enough. I would have put. Can't speak on that one. Maybe Richard Petty. But I don't think he belongs to top 20 anyway. They don't belong in top 20.

They don't. Nope. Sorry. They don't. They don't. Nope. Never mind. It'd be hard for a racing goat.

Hank Aaron. Now, here's my problem with the Hank Aaron's thing. Only because Bonds is a four. Hank Aaron is a five. They have Willie Mays as a top 48, but not a, he's a 12 seat. Willie freaking. maze is a 12 seat. You seem upset.

I'm bothered by that. Right. Fred from the text line. Fred Nod Horberg says, Wilt is, was, and always be the real and genuine when you go. I can't argue with that.

Wilt is one of the top 20 athletes to ever walk this planet. To ever athlete. To ever athlete. Like, I mean, he would, he would have been an, he was an All-American in track.

He would have been an All-American in volleyball. He would have been an all-American. sprinter he allegedly lifted more than arnold schwarzenegger in his prime uh allegedly so sanderson says that larry homes is the best heavy way to ever saw but i didn't see ali who is my cousin by the way yeah i um with sanderson which means that you and i are probably cousins at some point because he's my seventh cousin or something along those lines um larry homes thorey homes on the list don't think larry home's no no um homes is finished is what cost him in this discussion.

What's up, Big Slim? We see you, bro. We see you. So to go through, let's stay in this lane, right? So of the top 25 athletes. Now, again, Jim Brown is not, Jim Brown's in the top 10. Jim Brown was probably,

maybe, probably the greatest lacrosse player to ever live. Really? Yeah. He had Syracuse was just insane. So Jim Brown, they have him as a 6-C, but okay. Mickey Mantle. Now, do you take Mantle over Garrig? Do you take Mantle over Trout?

Do you take Mantle over Ted Williams? Has Trout done enough? Trout has not done enough. So I'll take all of them over Trout. Right? Do you take them over... Who else is baseball on this list? Those are pretty much the ones.

Yeah, Ted William Syong. You said if you played baseball before black people were allowed to play, it's hard for me to put you very high. I will, but I won't put you very high. Right. I mean, that's the thing, right? And then top 30, here we go. So Lawrence Taylor is at a seven.

This is the greatest defender ever in football. And he may be the greatest football player to ever live. So he's up there. Right. So based on this, list you get your pen i need to give you a piece of paper because i need for you to write this out and in the text line you guys can dance with us right dance with us right so for for in order to figure out the goats yeah in each sport this will go by what they put in play here okay and then

we'll in order to recede we got to figure uh let's start with hockey Gretzky is a one seed Bobby Orr is a 15 seed And You ready for this? If I'm seeing this right Mario Lemieux Lemieux is a 9 seed

Is a 9 So those are those the top three Crosby's not Didn't make this list Evetchin didn't make the list Sorry I'm having trouble spelling Lemieux Lemieux

LEM E-I-U-X. I-U-X. Right? So there are the, Gordy Howe, sorry. Gordy Howe? Yeah.

So those are the four. Howe's an eight-seat. There is. Right? He's an eight-C. So keep those. Yep. I'm just writing like, I'm going to put the sport,

and then I'm going to put the people's names, and then we're going to work on, right, work on reseeding. So then we can go to baseball. Let's go to baseball. It's a lot of baseball players on this list. A lot of baseball players on this list. A lot of old white guys.

A lot of white guys. a baseball players on those. Babe Ruth is two. He's the highest. He's the highest. He's the highest. He's the two. Let's see.

They didn't put that many on that. He has a 14. DiMaggio's a 14. A lot of Yankees. Yeah, shut up. You suck. Roger Clemens. They have them as a 12th seed.

Again, a Yankee. A red side. Don't. Astro. Don't. Ranger. Don't. Don't.

When you think of steroid Clemens, you think of Say Young. You think of Sy Young. Bob Gibson is not on his list. So it's a fake list. It's a fake list. Ted Williams, Garrig. Garrig's in 11.

Manil is a six. Trout is a 13. Bonds is a four. Mays is 12, but he's actually number two. Aaron is a five. Yeah. So those are all the. baseball players.

Oh, they're all on the other side. Yeah, they're all in the other bracket. Willie base. Right.

Now, I mean, come on. Like, like, like, come on. Can you have that,

you can't have this many like, this is the goat, if you have this many in one sport. That's not how this is. Like, we don't even know

who the best is. No. Like we have this dumb. This is why we have to go through it. All right. Football.

It's because baseball's been around forever. Yeah, it's the past time. It's America's past time. Like a hot dog and apropine. I actually don't know if you guys

baseball was there. Jordan Burroughs is not on the list. Yeah, you were right, Hilselbeah. That's kind of, yeah, Lawrence Taylor created a defense. You are absolutely right. Jesse Owens has to be on the list. That is a great call. Isn't he on the list?

Cool hand loop. Is he not? I don't know. I don't know. He's on there? I thought I saw him. Hold on. Give me a second.

Look for track people. Oh, yeah. He's a 13th. He's a 13 seat. He's a 13 seat. Yeah, I was mad about that. He's a 13 seat. Okay, what sport are we going to right now?

Boxing. Boxing. Ollie, two seat. Floyd Mather, Mayweather, 6 seat. They do not put Joe Lewis in the woods. They did not. They have Mike Tyson. They have Tyson as a,

as an eight or something like that? Four seed. He's a four seat. Who's going to tell Mike Tyson he's a four seat? Not me. We're going to have that. You have the ghost of. Muhammad Ali.

I ain't going to do it. I'm not telling nothing. You stay out of eye. He seems like he's a little chill. He seems like he's a little chill. He said that dude is still there. He said that dude is still there. Mike Tyson said, look, I put him away, but that dude is still there.

He's chilling. So those are your boxers. Mixed morseer artists, John Jones, and Amanda Nunes are the two that made the little. list um olympians olympians you're saying bolt is a 13 man disgusting

Phelps is a four U bolt we consider Bo Jackson Bo Jackson's on the list as a football as a football they're gonna they're gonna

he's an athlete yeah 11 um so should I put him with Olympians yeah Let's see. Oh, boxing. Boxing we forgot Rocky Marciana. Rocky Marciano.

You ought to say it like they said it in Barbershop. Coming to America. There they go. Simone Biles is an Olympian. Kate Ladeckie as a nine-seat. There are two tennis players. Ledecki is there against Serena, right side, bottom. That's not a high out of Scaline.

And then for drivers, it's Andretti. We didn't see, and Mario Andretti, Richard Petty. And didn't we have another one? Wasn't there all that? No, I don't think so. Andretti. Two tennis players. Are petty.

Two tennis players. So you got Federer and. Those are the only two. arena. Right? I'm not missing anybody, right? That's dumb. Two tennis players. Two tennis players and two race car drivers. That's, I feel robbed. Or three race car drivers. Who's the other race car drivers? Petty Earnhardt, Dale Earnhardt. Earnhardt's a 10. Senior? Yeah. Junior, junior, is not. I had to ask. I mean, I didn't have to, but I had to really didn't. Uh, Mia Ham female athlete.

Do we go female out or do we just go soccer? Soccer. Because her messy Pele, Ronaldo, are the four soccer players. Yeah, Ham. Two M's. Indeed. Pele. I have to tell you a story.

My being her security for two days. I got to be Myanmar's security for two days. Really? Amazing. Did she need it? I don't know if she would. One time she needed it, one time we just. get it for fun.

I actually like the soccer because they only have one name. It's much easier. Yeah, right. Palo, Ronaldo, messy. Yeah, that's literally how that works. Mia, well, Mia. Yeah, Mia. Yeah.

Ham. Football players. Here we go. Here we go. There's so many football players, too. Brady. Hold on. Give me a second.

T. braid. Rogers is an eight seat. Aaron Rogers? Mm-hmm. No, let's... Manning as a 19th. Manning as a 19th. Yeah, they have lost their minds.

Manning as a 9 seed. Let's see. Joe Montania. Sanders has a 4 seed. Randy Moss as a 13 seed. 13 seed. Randy Moss is on here. I didn't have that.

13 seed. Let's see here. Rice is a 12 seat Jay Rice Whoever put him there is fired Montana is a 5th Wait they have

Rennie Moss is a higher seed than Jerry Rice Yes Oh Yes Yes Just pointing out Lawrence Taylor was a 10

Sweetness Sweetness is a No Lawrence Taylor is a 7 Sweetness is a 10 I'm not writing the numbers I'm just having them Jim Brown as a 6

Yeah But I'm just trying to Yeah Let the people know for what that was. So those are all the football players. All right. So we'll take a pause there and let people process that.

We'll come back. I am disgusting. Basketball. We've got to get, we'll get into basketball, what the list is. Listeners, write down your list of your top 10 basketball players and see who makes the list. And then we'll get in more Go talk. We'll come back. Download our app by searching 93.7, a ticket in your app store.

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