1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - Growing Up with Style : July 29th, 11:00am

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

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And in hearing, yeah, Eric, Chappelle had some other words that we cannot use based on the FCC and its rules and regulations. The fines are too substantial. We have to do that, right? Simple biz. Simple biz. You guys are funny. I was just paying attention. I just looked at the text.

Gave AD some shoes. So he bought a pair, and then because of the generosity of Rebecca Pearson, he got a second pair for free. But I'm a shoe guy. I'm a shoe guy. I can't. I don't know what it is. Like I try to explain it to Becky that.

As a recovering poor kid, the biggest scars of my adolescence was being broke, not having money. And I don't know what, I've had this conversation on there before, but I don't know what you called the lowest level of shoe that you could buy for a child. but we had what what's the biggest grocery store chain here back in my childhood it was called the a and p familiar with that at all so imagine like Safeway whatever that is right high V but maybe not maybe in some of the poorer places but the A&P was our local grocery store that we would go to. And in that store and it's kind of, so think,

it also had other things, right? So it had appliances, it had whatever. But you would go and in the middle of the store, it had this like fenced basket. So the, you know,

a wired basket. And in that basket was this bucket a buffet of bad shoes. Now, circa 1968, 69, 70, 71, 72. This is before the Nike run ProKeds and Converse, Canvas Converse, you know, Canvas ProKeds. Like if you had money, ProKeds was kind of the jam.

Converse, right? High top or low top. If you were stylish, Sheke, you had money. I don't know what rich kids wore. I don't know. I went to rich schools, but I was the poor kid in the rich schools. I was bust into white, predominantly white schools on the other side of,

on the other side of the tracks. On the other side of the tracks, Bach. If, if, if this was, I was from eight mile, they were from nine miles. They were on the other side. and, yeah, pay less, but less. Like less than pay less.

Bach, they had this bin of shoes that was probably six foot tall. Right? You could see through it, right? So imagine like a fence. But you would have to deep dive and parents would send their kids. They would just go barreling into these shoes and they'd be attached, you know, by pair. And then they had a little tag on it that tells you what size it was, right? You had to go through.

but these shoes were 99 cents a pair. Now, we, we called them wolf dogs. And if you came to school on the first day of school wearing wolf dogs, you were poor. Like you were going to catch heat. You were going to catch heat. This was the equivalent of drinking generic soda. You know, where you go in the store and the can say soda.

Yeah. Like it just says soda. It doesn't say Coca-Cola. says soda. Juice. It just says juice. It says cheese. Meat.

Meat product. That's how poor we were. And, you know, there are eight kids in the family. So, listen, you got hand-me-downs. But in those neighborhoods, people had already seen those clothes on your family members. But my hand-me-downs were difficult because my older brother, there was a gap between in ages. So I had three older sisters between me and my older brother. So, Hammy Downs, you know, they'd have to be in the closet for three years, right?

They were in a box being stored for me to grow into them. But these wolfdogs, and they called them Wolfdogs, so they were black. They looked like black converse except for not. But they didn't have the logo, and it was made by, with cheaper canvas. And the reason why they called them Wolfdogs is that they were so cheaply made that if you wore it, you wore them for any number of hours, the tongue of the shoe would just slide to either side, and it would look like a dog's tongue hanging out the shoe. And they wouldn't, they wouldn't last long, right?

You could wear them, you would run them out. They had a little line on it that would let you know when you were wearing them out, right? A little black line that if you ever reached, if that started to fade, if that started to fade, It was telling everybody, listen, poor dude, go get you. Now, I deliver newspapers from the age of 8 until 18. And that was how I got, because listen, this was in the preppy era. This was in the I-Zod, Jordash gene era. So I look terrible.

There's a picture that I share on a regular basis of me as a 12-year-old, 7th grade. No, 14 years old. 14 years old. and they take a color picture of you. And I am in a denim suit for class picture. A denim suit. Where did you go? Canadian tucks?

Yeah. Right? Except for mine was green. Green. A green denim suit, Bach. And cap that with a white turtle. on that. Boy, I was killing them, girls.

I was killing them. They didn't have a choice. They never stood a chance. Bach. It was terrible. It was terrible. No, the afro was afro, and goodness gracious. But these shoes were 99 cents, bro.

I want to say that converse were $14 maybe. Maybe in 1970. 7? You know, like in today's world, not a big deal. But didn't have them. And then when it was then in, so in ninth grade,

I wore canvas white converse. That was the shoe of the, like the team. We were county champions in basketball. And we had the white high top converse, Chuck Taylor. And you played basketball in these. Brough.

to think about it now because if you put those on your feet right now and tried to play basketball in them, I don't know how we did it. And there were people who did it in low top, which I don't even understand now. I don't even understand. I don't know. I don't know.

When I think about it, I don't know, man. I don't know how we did it. Like we wore cotton shirts. Like how? If I put on a cotton shirt right now, it is crazy. like they don't so they says that the the the price of converse is in the 1970s maxed out it was like $10 um and then in 1978 dr jay and converse decided to go leather all stars and bach it is such a part of my my youth

our school colors were blue and gray, white, blue, and gray, cowboys. Think cowboys. And they, everybody went and bought these, and I want to say they were 19 bucks, maybe 24, for the leather high top Dr. J. All-Stars, right, with the single star and bar on the side. And boy, you couldn't tell me nothing. because that was that was that was a whole week's paperout money but it had to be done for football I did the same thing and the team was wearing black puma's black puma white striped for football I want to say those are 29 bucks but again we had we basically wore cowboy Dallas cowboy uniforms

and in that era, yeah, Roger Stalbach was wearing the, the black. But I wanted the white. I wanted the all white converse cleats. So I went into my paper delivery boy money

and I bought me some. I bought me some. Now, the ability to buy two pair of shoes, listen, Bach, you had, you had your school shoes, the ones you worked, like the one that,

and dad bought for you to wear the school. And then hopefully they weren't wolf dogs. Like if you got pro-Keds, I don't think Adidas had really blown up that way, but Pete Marevich had given Adidas some game. So that was kind of a thing. And then for baseball, Puma's. Like Puma Spikes. So I don't know what you were wearing in high school.

Do you remember what shoes you were wearing in high school? A variety of them. I think I was kind of in the same type of deal. I think I went out. I don't know what I wore day to day, but I know I went out and got some T-Mex and some Iversons for the basketball court. Right. And I think part of it was that that was the beginning of the shoe culture,

sports shoe culture. Because this is, again, imagine that I played in high school with Jordans didn't exist. Right? you kind of saw what the players were wearing, but not really. Again, the converse explosion really sort of happened with magic and bird in the pros, not even in the college. I want to say the pros, that they came up with the white, with the Laker gold and a purple star for magic,

the horrible green, Celtics with the white star. Oh boy, those are terrible. I never understood why they didn't go with the white with the green star. Yeah. Like that would have been,

I could have bought in. I could have bought in. My rival high school, they did the Celtics colors, so they were white and green, and that's what they would pull out. The Pistons were white and blue, and then Dr. J with the white and blue

or the white and red. Now, the summer of my sophomore year, my stepdad took me to work for his brother, my uncle, on rooftops. So we would demolition rooftops in D.C. It's 1,048 degrees on top of these rooftops, and it's all tar and just sweltering.

And I want to say I made $5 an hour back in 1979. whatever the minimum wage was, but I think, just imagine. Now, in theory, that's a terrible thing. But I would have $400 every two weeks in the summer. Look, man, I was like walking like George Jefferson when that little check showed up every two weeks. Now, I've never been more tired in my life working on the rooftops.

So people who work out in this weather on rooftops, pulling heat and throwing them in to demolition trucks and if like a building caught on fire, you would go in and demolition the building, clear it and all that stuff. And I was still delivering papers in the morning. And I want to say I got 40 bucks a week delivering papers, which was still, that was my money.

I don't know. Like the hammy downs, I couldn't do hammy downs because I had three older sisters. My brother is 10 years older than I am. Eight, eight years. So the hand-me-down portion of it wasn't, no. No, it wasn't going to, that wasn't going to happen. But also, I had a ton of cousins,

and sometimes the cousins were a little bit old and you could do that. I don't, Bach, I'm just saying, I don't know that I've outgrown the need to feel like I belonged, even in the neighborhood. Like, you caught heat. If you were the poor kid in the neighbor,

You caught heat. So, but delivering papers and working in the summer, that was literally, I mean, I've heard folks here talk about tasseling in the summer just to go and one, get the work ethic involved, get up, show up, do the thing. It won't be pleasant, but it'll be worth it. But I learned pretty early that I couldn't wait for two-a-day football practice in this sweltering heat because it was going to be less hellish than being on the top of the rooftop in D.C. You're like with grown-ups.

Like, we're doing grown-up work, man. I'm 14 years old. What are you talking about? Like you would bring a shirt to sweat in and then another shirt to sweat in after you sweat it out the other two shirts. So I don't know. I don't know.

Bach, would you consider yourself? Did you have a rich upbringing poor mid? How would you classify? Probably middle. I mean, I had a bigger family to five siblings. Well, four siblings and myself. So the hand-me-down thing was real. but yeah

I think we I'd say probably middle yeah it it it was you know and then I was bused to a white school so then this was the the in full

preppy era so my high school was every uh breakfast club personality that was my high school that literally like every version

so you had the you had the jock, you had the geek, then you had the kind of the outsider. And technically I belonged in each of them but didn't belong in any of them. Right? Because I was the star athlete or I was an athlete that they knew. And quite frankly, I was the black athlete for a lot of, like Barry Thompson was the black athlete the year before me. I was the black athlete for my class. Stanley Wilson was the black guy for the next.

Like we had a black guy. We were the black guy. And then like they would go, we had a ski club. My high school had a ski club where once a month they would go to Massanutton or ski liberty and I'm, I ain't going. What are you going to talk about? I don't have skis. I don't know. That's not really a thing I do.

So you had to learn and adjust. And those things are the things that you carry. into your life. And then I figured out through sports, it would give me personality to figure out what to wear because I always had like t-shirts from, you know, baseball team,

basketball, football, you know, whatever they gave us, whatever sweats they gave us, that was the thing to wear. And then every Friday you wore your jersey. So,

you know, and I was always in season. So, uh, you would wear your, your football, you're away. If you were playing a home game,

you wore your away jersey to school. Uh, if you were away, you wore your home jersey to school that Friday. and then you would, you know, jeans, did you ever use the word dungarees for jeans? I don't think, I don't think so. We had, were you old enough to ever wear tough skins? I do not know of that either.

You never, you never, listen. Text line, let me know if you ever wore tough, like, the tough skins were the stiffness. Buck, I'm pretty sure that people who worked in the coal mines wore toughskins. Like, if you were a welder, you wore toughskins. And then the preppy kids, we had preppy kids who then took over overalls and turned them into Eric. And the tough skin life was real, brough, them things. And I had, being that we were poor, my mind. My mom and grandma would have these patches, knee patches,

that when the knees wore out, they would sew the patches on the inside of the jeans. Right? And it was the same color. Yep. Those kids were patches. Bro, you know, it was war out there. Bocke.

It was a battle. It was a battle. Those built-in patches, man. And your knees weren't always built. to battle those knee patches from the inside box, your knees would, you would have to go through some things, man. You would.

And then Barney says, I remember getting dressed up and wearing penny loafers. So there were two things, right, with the penny still in it for good luck, right? So in the base of the shoe, there's a slit and you would put penny. They were called penny loafers, and you would keep a penny in there.

Because at some point, that was the thing of value. But, you know, 70s and 80s, not really. And then we had this thing called Earth Shoes, which was this brown, swedish, semi-boot. But the bottom of the shoe was built in like waves. And it was like it was rubber, but it was wavy. And they were called Earth Shoes.

Well, then the preppy kids took over the earth shoes. shoes. And then the penny loafers, the penny loafers went with your khakis and your Jordash. So you would wear Jordash. And then the emblem of the era was the IZod shirt with the collar up, which signed that you belong to the frat club, the sorority club, whatever it was. And then Bach, in the most hellish of things, someone came up with the idea, not only were you're going to wear the eyes on with your collar up, but you wore another white shirt over top of that with the collar up underneath it? Ah, yes.

Right? God, we were idiots. Man, but can you imagine, again, 100 degrees, with a golf shirt with a collar up and then a button down shirt over top of that? with a different color. So you would wear the, whatever your collar up shirt was, that, like, that would match your shoes or socks, right?

So you would have, so if you wore a pink shirt under and a white shirt over, you would wear pink socks to match to show up in your penny loafers. We were so weird. We were so weird. White people did this. Like, that's a white people thing.

And I was in a preppy school and I didn't have a choice. You did it too. there are pictures, the very first picture of the night Becky and I first met. I want to say 1984, 83, 84, party at her house. And this is in summer, mind you, or in the fall. There's a picture she took of me with a white polo shirt with a collar up, and I am wearing this light blue sweater over it. But I've got the collar up underneath the sweat.

What was I even doing? What was I even? Hey, good first impression. Hey, hey, hey, look, we still have the picture. I laugh and I was like, because you decided to make that that day you were going to marry that dude, which is hilarious. Because there was nothing about it. Like, and, and, but once I got out of college, I transitioned quickly because that's when, and as one I had raised, it says, don't forget the parachute pants. that's when

parachute pants started to happen and then they had these combinations there was a I forget that I want to say hot topic there's there are these stores that were urban stores urban dress stores that you would go in and every payday you'd go in and you would buy an outfit and some of them had so it was a blue pant

but if you zip down the side it had like a black filler and then you would have like think of Michael Jackson because that's, he was probably the impetus for this, was that you would have a blazer or a vest that matched the pants and then you would wear a white or black shirt under it. And then they had these Bach, bless their souls. If you were a dancer back in the day, like if you were a teenager or post-college,

white fake patent leather shoes with these skinny ties that matched. And these ties, they were terrible, Bach. They were terrible. But that's how you, like, and if you had them, it was the status thing. The parachute pants, right? You'd wear the pants zipped up to start

and then somewhere through the evening, cute girls showed up. You know, you'd unzip it and show the color and the flash and you'd go out and do your dance. And you'd have on these white, had to paint the white shoes because if you were dancing in him, you scuff the white shoes up. Right? You'd scuff them. So everybody, imagine your dad having these shoes that he had to white polish once a week so that he can wear them to the bar.

Although I would imagine in Nebraska that may probably wasn't a thing. That might have been a D.C. thing. That might have been a big city thing. That might not have been a Nebraska thing. But we'll read some of these texts because y'all are funny. y'all are funny it says he says don't forget the parachute pants uh old dad says dungarees was a real thing those knee patches on the inside itched man they itch and you bach you that's literally you would spend your all day like rubbing your leg because that's what was going on uh eric says oh the look on my mom's face when i tried uh to clean grass things off my brand new listen your your go-to-school clothes your brand new go-to-school clothes when you came

home, march yourself straight to your room, take off your good clothes or put on your play clothes. Why did you have play clothes? I don't know. I wouldn't say that I had designated one. If my mom came home from working, I still had on my good school clothes. Oh, man, I was going to get it. I was going to get it. Yeah, I was.

Barney was talking about the penny loafers. Yeah, the built-in 0-2-0. Yeah, he wore them built-in knee patches. it was the thing the Zons Lee Pipes good call 1171 yeah it it those

man born in 89 but yeah and Augie the tough skins they were legit like to go online go online and get your son some some tough skins

right like go find him we'll go to break we'll come back we'll we'll talk some sports but my goodness gracious culturally the advancement. Shoes are a thing. We'll be right back.