1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - How much work does Kinsey put in to be great: July 11th, 10:25am

Episode Date: July 11, 2022

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From the Texan as well, I was always curious when all those gymnasts are spinning through the air with doing 20 twists. How in the heck do they know where they're at? Primarily, it's air awareness. It's not always what you spot, but that definitely is a helpful technique. It depends what you're doing as well.

you know based on the event I'd say like vault and beam are a lot of spotting bars you kind of have to be one with the bar if you're doing a release move you should be looking at the bar but when you're in a handstand you don't really look at anything

so you just kind of have to balance and I feel like that's how it is a floor too like you just have to be confident in your body and your air awareness I mean is that muscle memory is that spatial memory what is that? It's muscle memory If you're, you know, developing a good technique as a young gymnast, regardless of how old you are, if you start young or older, you kind of all have to start at the same level.

And depending, like, how seriously you take, you know, a good foundation and technique, I think that can take you really far. Personally, I think I'm more of a technical gymnast than, like, a trickster. But some people who kind of just grow up throwing things and then they repeat it and repeat it, then it does become muscle memory. Give me that again between the difference between the two, the two types. Oh, okay. So, you know, there's like a technical gymnast. And then there's, for lack of better words, like just a talent trickster that just can try something. Talent versus skill?

Would that be? More like, I would say like talent. I don't want to say like talent versus technique because you can definitely have both. And it's really like I'm not referring to one or the other. but okay so floor i mentioned i'm not the strongest tumbler like if somebody just tried like something and then repeated it and repeated it and could get it but for me like i need a good like i'm very type a like what do i need to do what leg needs to go where do my arms need to go it's like when you learn a full this is also common i feel like in cheerleading you kind of just it's trial and error and then once you get it

you just continue to do it but i remember when i learned my full like there was a little bit you're is a very like set spot wrap one arm like keep your hips open whatever and then some people just like throw it and if they could just do it yeah they could just do it see okay that makes sense to me because i me as an athlete if i saw it i could do it but if you told me how to do it i would mess it up okay yeah so i would say probably i'm the opposite okay well i'm i'm a little bit of both another good example is my bar dismount so in club i use used to do what's called like a full out. So it's a double flip and you full on the second one.

So there's a lot of different ways you can do a half in, half out. You can do a full tuck and then a full like full. So I would watch, you know, these college gymnasts who are trying to stick it all the time. And I would try to like learn this technique, like watch and rewatch,

watch and rewatch and try, you know, an arm thing. I'd try like my coach had been at clapping at one point when I should be like preparing to twist, whatever. And then before my senior year of, high school, I tried a different dismount, which was a double layout, which is a double twist,

but in like a different position. And nobody taught it to me. I literally taught it to myself. I just tried it a couple times and picked it up. And now it's literally the one I compete. And I did the other one for literally my whole life since I was like 13. And then I learned this when I was like 17. So you know that you're not normal, right?

You know that you're barely human. Yeah, yeah. Right? Barely human. Like this is some alien stuff that as you talk about, you know what I, you know what I, you know, I put these two fools together. And most people, really, if I asked them to roll over on a mat without hurting themselves, that they probably wouldn't do that.

How much work do you put in with a particular skill before you activate it into your routine? So if you're doing a thing, are you in the pits for three months before you're willing to try this? What's the process? It's different for each skill, but definitely like what you were kind of getting at. definitely want to start in a pit and just fling yourself in the air. And then even if you do have a good technique, even if someone's telling you how to do it step by step and you try it, it's not going to be perfect, like on the first try. But I would just say until you're safe and confident, like you could be safe and confident, but you might not have done enough reps. So maybe you're

not really safe to move forward. But it's usually like kind of a mutual thing. I mean, my coaches were really supportive once I did figure out the new bar to smout, but it was my decision. Like, I'm pretty sure I did one day in the pit, and I was like, let's put Naden Scher in. And then we did. And then, yeah, it's just up to me. And the thing, too, with Jim is it's half mental. So if someone else is telling you to move it somewhere and you're like no can do, then it's not going to happen.

But, you know, if you have like a good system going and you both feel confident or come up with a compromise, then. Do you borrow from teammates? Like you see a teammate do a thing and you go, you know what? I need that. Yes. And no. Okay. Yes, because I think you can definitely learn from your teammates.

Like having a team is like a really strong like asset to watch and learn, especially if you don't know how to do something and having opposite strengths too can be beneficial. But what Brian, my bar coach actually helped me once too was last year, you know, I had, one of my teammates who had one type of dismount that looked a certain way on her. And I'm like, oh, I should try. Like, I want mine to look like that. And he's like, but you do it your way. So like, why would you want to make it look like hers?

But so sometimes it can be really beneficial. And sometimes if it's working for you, like, don't overthink it. I'm a huge overthinker. What? 4.0. Yeah. Yeah, no, no. Yeah.

Not at all. I'm from all of that. We were talking earlier this morning, previously about athletes. competing with themselves rather than their environment, their surroundings, their situation. For you, the amount of work that you put in, is that dictated by people, coaches saying, hey, work on this, or is this a thing that you control because you know what you should be doing and how this is supposed to work? Again, both.

It's a great area. Yeah. definitely um especially freshman year just because they've gotten to know me better so they definitely take my you know they'll listen to you yes but especially freshman year and even now you know it's kind of the coach's job to come up with the assignment so unless you're physically like in a lot of pain where you're like no life can't actually do the landing this many times um i mean it's pretty average to just try and like respect the coaches and do the assignment you're told at the end of the day I do know my body so I do know what's good for me but that doesn't mean that I just get to create my

own numbers but I will say that they're really good at compromising so if you put in the work halfway that's honestly like what I pride myself on is I work so hard on the front end so then if something comes up like you know they totally listen to me and respect me and know I'm being honest So just put in the work ahead of time. And then if you have something that you want to bring up or something that are like, hey, I don't think this is actually working as well for me. I think that individualizing assignments is a huge factor in college athletics because it's not one-size-fits-all. And that is very club.

That is very like everybody do this. And that does not suit each individual. So that's like something I love about college is they definitely don't do it like that. They definitely like to see what works for each person. person. What's the line for you for injury hurt and injury, right? You're asking the wrong person because even when I'm injured, I will literally act like I am not. But I get that, right? Like I absolutely get that. That to get through an entire gymnastics season from offseason through without injury is almost next to impossible. So where do you draw the line?

between, you know what, pump the brakes, Kenji, you need to chill to, oh, tough through it, we got work to do. I think just experience of the sport through all the years I've done it kind of teaches me that, and I do know my body. I will almost never, you know, get out of a competition. So one being freshman year about, it was February, February 7th. And she knows it. What time was it?

Yeah, yeah. Probably around 4 p.m.m. But I did a dismount wrong on bars, landed it wrong, like slid forward as my feet were down, and I hurt my heel badly, and I knew it in the moment. Like, I definitely knew it. I literally crawled off the mat. And it wasn't my ankle, so some people were kind of confused because they were like, I don't know what to do about it.

But after an MRI, I ended up, like, tearing my heel pad off my bone. But it's like superficial. Say that again. I tore my heel pad, which is the superficial soft tissue on the bottom of your heel, the squishy part. I have a heel pad? Yes, Rico. But I've never heard, I don't think I've ever heard anybody say they tore it off the bone. So I am prone to the most unusual injuries of all time, and the doctor has only ever seen it one other time in his entire career,

some guy who is in like a construction accident, I'm pretty sure. Wow. But so what happened was... Construction accident, gymnastics. It was the same thing. Yeah, honestly. Kind of the same thing. But we warmed up the vault, went to bars.

That's when it happened. I put this heel cup and taped it. And so it was like a high heel kind of because it was like that. I was silicone thing. And I was like, well, I'm just going to go to Beam now. And then I literally was doing Beam and like not touching my heel to the beam. I was doing it all on tippy toe, which honestly works out for Beam. It's okay.

And then I went back and we changed Leo's and it was time to compete. And so I hadn't done Vault. since I heard it and I couldn't like run normally but I still competed vault. So that's that. And then I went to bars and that was my first event title. Was that me on bars? Because I was like so mad that I couldn't vault to what I thought I could. So I like took it out on bars and I actually got the event title on that.

And then I went to Veeam and also hit that. So that was that. So she'll be using the heel pad for her. But then I was out afterwards for everything for the next week. And then I came back on bars the first. following week because they only had five people so they did five but five count so the next meet I came back on bars and I think I exhibitioned beam and then the next meet I did bars and beam and then finally the last meet was big tens and that was the first time I vaulted and I actually

got my career high on vaulted at me but I did vault bars and beam and then the season was over and then we went to regionals which I just made on bars because I don't even think I had enough like really to calculate a good score for um well that's why i asked about the the next event the the all around because it helps you get into other spaces when it comes to all season stuff so you know it's a tough decision i want so bad i have gone back and forth like i want to do it all but physically right now i'm not planning on it but i'm also not closing the door completely i don't think doors close for you. I think they just kind of wait for you.

I just think don't tempt me because I have practiced today and watch me try and start tumbling right now. Yeah, that's the part of it, right? So then I want to ask because how does this coaching staff boundary you?

Because they have to be careful in that limiting exception, right? If you're an elite athlete, they don't want to get in the way of it. but they also have a responsibility to protect you. So when Kenzie gets her hair on fire and decides, let's go,

on a scale of one to ten, when does Coach Brink tap you on the shoulder and say pump the brakes? A lot. Not a lot, but she definitely listens and she definitely is observant if you are like down or like not yourself. and which we all go, I'm fine. So it kind of is us.

Shocker. But there have been times I want to quote when I have not been fine and I told her. So when she asked me and there have been times where I really did take a break. But yeah, that's good to mention as well. That same season when I was trying to like ease back into like each event, I did not just get thrown into beam. I had to kind of work and practice against other girls to who's going to get the spot because I think that partly she didn't want to just be like, here, do your whole thing because she wasn't sure if I was really like ready for it yet.

But again, like she gave me numbers to do and I did them. So at that point, if you're kind of undeniable and the fact that you can handle it and you're hitting it, that's kind of how I ended up doing it back at Big Ten's. But yeah, it's a good compromise. Like I said, like she, the point is that she, you know, didn't force me to do anything. It was in my hands if I could do it or not. And if I were not me and I couldn't do it, then I just as easily would not have done it. But I am me and I wanted to do it and I could do it.

So that's how that happens. I can just see you two just snorting each other, forehead to forehead. I'm going to do this. No, we have the best relationship. I, we have the best relationship. Because you're so much alike. HB? Yes.

Yes. You both are, oh my goodness gracious. We'll throw it a break. We'll come back, close out one-on-one with Kenji Davis. I had questions. Got to talk about the parents and the coaching aspect of it. And then we've got to ask her thoughts on Baker Mayfield to her Carolina Panthers. We'll be right back.

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