1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - January 27th: 10am - Barry Thompson (Fairfax Football Academy Football coach)

Episode Date: January 27, 2022

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It's time to go one-on-one with D.P. Coming at you live from the couple Chevrolet GMC Studios. Here is your host, Derek Pearson, presented by Beatrice Bakery on 93-7 The Ticket and the Ticketfm.com. Welcome to one-on-one. What we need is some music. We need some flavor. We need to set the tone. Standard setters are necessary.

and the late great John Fasenda is one of those people. Rico, if he would please, hit this man's music. The autumn wind is a pirate. Blustering in from sea with a rollicking song he speaks along. Swaggering boisterously. His face is weather-beaten. He wears a hooded sash. With a silver hat.

about his head and a bristling black mustache. He growls as he storms the country, a villain big and bold. And the trees all shake and quiver and quake as he robs them of their gold. The autumn win is a raider, pillaging just for fun. He'll knock you round and upside down and laugh when he's conquered and won. That is glorious. I love it every second of and let's bring him in. Let's bring in the QPee Coach Fairfax Football Academy.

Barry Thompson. B.T., what's happening? Let's get him unmuted first. There we go. Let's get his level up. Okay, hold on here. Hold on here. There we go, Rico.

All right, there we go, BT. We figured it out. All right, well, just to do it again, I brought the mess. It's not Russell, it's champion. It's champion. And I got some colors that you might be familiar with behind me. Just one big a little touch to the DMV. Oh, look at you.

Look at you go. The old colors from Washington Lee University, Lexington, Virginia. No, these are, this is Washington and Lee. Yeah, university, yeah, you're right. Look, almost little stars on the thing. Yeah, look at the, hold that up again. again, Barry. That looks pretty good. Yeah. That looks pretty good.

See you, that's where the VA, that's where the eight comes from in the VA and Barry's Twitter. You still have, how have I not seen that? I have two of them and both of them are in the possession of women. Oh, no, never mind. And I have to request from a woman when you were talking to get this one down here. Yeah, I, I understand. Thank her. for doing that. How is the lovely miss? She's doing great. Mean as ever. What? She's never been. What? She's doing awesome. She's doing awesome. Yeah, well, I need to reach out. I talked to last week,

and so I need to reach out and work on some of these care packages as well, because I think getting superhero boxes are nice. Yep, get her some Beatrice Bakery stuff and we can put that stuff together. and I can think of several hosts that deserve said item. So that's where my head is on that. I don't know. We'll get them ready. Yeah, it's good stuff. Yeah, the mesh joints, man, that, you know, that.

Back in the day, right? Yeah, that makes me, that makes me feel good. That makes me feel good. We were talking, we've been talking about quarterbacks earlier in the day. And, you know, with Big Ben retiring, Brady on the cusp. you know, Aaron Rogers on the cusp, not real sure how that's going to play out. Russell Wilson in transition, he may be in a different place. Drew Brees retiring.

Is this the full changing of the guard for the quarterback position and how the position is played? You know, it's funny. I had a discussion. I'm in a text group. I have a couple of buddies that are defensive coaches. And they were just railing about last week. and, you know, getting to play defense and coach defense is getting difficult. But I told him, I said that this, to me, in my mind, started about eight years ago.

I'm going to give a lot of credit to Trent Dilfer, the Elite 11 group. There's a book called Modern QB by Bruce Feldman. And you can look at in the opening chapter, they had made an effort to gather as many quarterback coaches as they could that they thought were good into this one space at Ohio State. And Steve Centrum got up and gave a speech. And it was about how we were to kind of operate in this space, share information. It was just a suggestion. And I think from that suggestion, guys went back out like Quincy, Quincy Avery, who was just getting started out. You know, George Whitfield was doing his thing.

You know, Coach Hoover in the Midwest, the guys out in the West Coast, Siwan and Craig Nall down in Texas, and all those guys. I've had a tremendous impact in how they teach, how they do things. and now you're seeing in my mind the net effect of it. I was just looking at some of Burroughs game. And some of the stuff that he didn't pocket is just stuff that we teach. You know, maybe it wasn't taught before, but he does it extremely well. So you do have these new guys coming up. And the expectations keep getting raised.

Keep jumping back to basketball. And basketball, you tend to get one. And when we were watching Dr. J. You know, my dad would tell me stories about Elgin Bailey. You know, we're watching now, Alan Iverson and, you know, we watch Jordan do his thing, right? And then Kobe comes along, and then LeBron comes along. They're each iteration up.

And football right now, these quarterbacks have ascended multiple ones, Mahomes and Allen, and they're playing different. And the guys that are watching them are mimicking their style, Brady set a standard, what it means to be a champion. And that has a tremendous effect. So I don't know if it's a change in the guard. It's, I think the guard is putting on new suits. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I sent you the pictures of Casey Thompson working out. Yep. And I can say this in full disclosure. So Barry was a quarterback. Barry was one of the, he was the first muscle bound quarterback. had ever been around. Like Barry was a wrestler, high-level wrestler, so he built like a wrestler. But he also played quarterback, and he ran the option, and some would fashion him to

the likes of Charles Thompson from OU. From OU. Good last name. Right? How about that? The Thompson quarterbacks have a way. But to see a quarterback put in, put in that kind of work for the armor, what say you? Is that, is that unique? Is that unique? Is that, is that, that special, is that, is that rare? Like to have somebody, I think it's less unique now because, remember, I can go back to,

they want to know. Yeah, what's something. Yeah, he's very popular. He's very popular. This is what happens. Yeah, yeah. Oh. Okay, there you are.

All right. Les, if you go back a couple of years ago when Jalen Hertz transferred the originally to Oklahoma, right? He was in there pressing some week. I've got a quarterback here who's converted to a tight end, but I've got pictures of him as a junior

dead looking 600 pounds. Wow. So I don't think it's as rare, and I mean, just stepping up and pulling it up. So I don't think it's as rare as it used to be, but it's just what it is. These guys are, they're tough. I call them QB Strong.

Well, I mean, but we're breaking down walls now, right? The glass ceilings of the stuff because it used to be, well, we don't want a muscle mount quarterback. We won't be able to throw. I won't be able to run and recover all those things. Right. New technology. There's new thinking to it, correct?

Right. Well, they are doing plus. So the Brian Courtney that I'm telling you about, we talked about last year, yeah, Brian's pretty flexible too. So you see him in the weight room. That may not be all that Charles is doing. he may be doing yoga on top of that. He may be doing quarterback-specific exercises like my guy, Drew McDuffie at UVA now has a lot of people doing rotational stuff.

But you do get that one picture of them moving some iron. So I think that's what's new about it. These guys are training in a more complete way, both physically and mentally, and that's changing the game. It's been really cool to watch. And for Husker fans, they won't know the name Guy Meyer. But watching young, they will know the name, they will know the name Josh Kim. They'll know through all of, I mean, Noah Kim, sorry.

Watching your development of young players, Guy Myers is a guy who's gone through his ups and downs. And again, transferring from school to school to get his rightful place or the right place for him to be. And now he's gone from being a kid who folks don't know to being in the top 40 quarterbacks in this year's NFL draft. That journey has got to be pretty, like it's got to be mind-blowing, right? Yeah, it's funny.

Just to something, he's taking a journey, and it's been one of ascendancy. From where he started to where he is now, it hasn't been a direct 45-degree climb, but it's always been a climb that's moved forward. Yeah. You know, to the point where he finished up, he graduated 3.5 in a degree in integrated communications. And now he's had a lot of good things at the end of this journey or at this point, the journey happened to him.

We got a scouting report last week from an ex-NFL personnel person, great scouting port. The main thing it rated out that he was a priority free agent, which puts him in a different tier. He signed his agency contract with GHG Sports, which is also a big moment in a young man's life. And then recently what came out was, oh, what you referenced, right? There was a list of the 2020 draft class quarterbacks, and he's on the list. And I think as more people get to know his story, maybe he gets to talk to you, know his story a little bit, that will continue to tick up. But I think right now, people getting to know who he is and his story, I think, is a big deal for him. And, you know, we're really pointing toward trying to get a pro-day.

You know, you know, got to get him in front of some people. And we're really angling to get a pro-day form. I think he's worthy of it. What's been the biggest thing that he had to improve on to elevate himself? Well, just general improvement, right? You want to just, I don't think there's a specific area, but general area. We want to clean up mechanics. you want to press your combine numbers, right?

Those are the metrics you're going to be measured by. He's doing well. And I forgot to mention Accelerators of the facility and Josh Chamberlain, where we actually train indoors. Josh is handling that part of it. We want to continue to prepare him as best we can on and off the field. So we have a meeting every morning at 8 o'clock and we're going over, you know, protections. I mean, a deep dive on protections, all different types of protections.

these ones we can get our hands on. Study it for a day. We come back and talk about. And then we move on to some basic concepts that you see in the NFL, you know, like stick, like levels, like dagger, like Yankee, like Hank, right? And really a deep dive in it and understanding those things and trying to pull clips and examples and trying to match footwork up. So we're doing that thing. He's educating himself on how to be a professional that's important to know who people are, right,

because you may encounter them and you want. So we're pushing on that level. And then on the field, it's just, like I said, it's tightening up the mechanics and footwork to a point where it leads to a high level of consistency and accuracy. Arm strength isn't an issue. But being able to throw from tight spaces, being able to throw from a short base, being able to cycle through a progression in a way that you would have to if you were running,

say we were working on Texas the other day. is a pretty common route structure or drive, right? These are the professional reads in it. How would you have to progress through it? What's the throw that you mean? Or even like 525 each post, right? Short post, right? That's a tough throw for a quarterback.

Five-step drop, you're looking at the post, then you got to swing all the way around and hit an 18-yard out, come back on the other side of the field. Take some repetitions of doing that. So that's just what we're doing. It's just every day, just trying to get better at those things. and we're trying to get that pro day.

Did I say the pro day? Yeah, we need to get the pro day done. So a lot of what you're saying resonates. So here's a question and kind of an exposure. There's knowledge of the throws that a college quarterback is going to have to make at a pro day, right? Like we know those throws and we know those situations. Has the focus turned to that? I mean, is there a specific?

amount of reps that are tailored specific to the throws he'll have to make when and if he gets a pro day or visit to the combine? Yes. So there's all these tracks that are running at once, right? You've got the track where he has to press the combine numbers, the track where you have to press the knowledge and basic, you know, one-on-one understanding of things he may be asked. And then, yes, the specific throws, right? Those are the things that we work on. You know, what those look like, you know, what do we have to do to complete them? What do we have to do to be consistent? After we get off here, he's working, he called, by the way. He's working out right now, and as soon as he's done, I get him for about two hours. So then that's what we'll be working. Through all of this, right, that if a kid from, you know, college of Charleston makes the top

40 list. Yeah. That may indicate that some folks are missing. Some power fives are missing out. How are those misses for for guy who's,

he's 6-6, runs like the wind, rocket arm, how are these things being missed? I don't know that he was missed. I think in his case, this is coming at the time it was meant to come.

Guy's story is he was 5'2, maybe 100 pounds when he entered high school as a freshman. And then he grew and he grew and he grew. He was diagnosed with the learning disability and by his own admission, kind of used that as a crutch. So his junior year wasn't what it should be. But finally his senior year, he gets only 6'4, whatever, and he's athletic. And he kills it.

He comes to my attention because I have Lyndall Stone, who's a top quarterback in the country. And I'm watching Max Crepson. I keep seeing this quarterback from Forest Park. put up very close numbers and through a series of events, you know, connection back to high school, we wind up meeting and start working there. At that point, that's when his ascendancy begins. He goes to Mississippi Delta, still using his, you know, a disability as a crutch, the learning disability, comes out first semester, the grades are not good. And at that point, he made a decision.

And from that point on, yes, there's some rough spots, but it ends up in Charleston taking them to spring division championship having a decent senior fall campaign and graduating with 3.5 average and now all this. So it is one of ascendancy. They didn't miss him. He wasn't he wasn't FBS worthy as a senior talent, ability, but not the package. Now he's the package. Now as for other guys that I have that they're missing. They need to come get this Connor Berry kid. Everybody's taking a pass on him. I don't know why. There may be a couple schools that are going to come in late, you know, after a signing date, but he's a kid I don't understand why they missed. And he's got a big chip on the shoulder, and he's good. Well, we like, see, we love those guys. And there's one here

that. Yeah, no, no Walter. Right? Yes. Yeah. I don't understand how these things happen, because if you look above and you put all the starters on, they're not all the same height. They're not all the same weight. There are six-foot quarterbacks, and they're always having. and they're good. And so why they keep getting passed over in this I need a 6-3 guy who's 220, 215, and I don't really care if he can't play that well, this other kid plays well. I don't know, they're going to have to start changing their thinking because they are missing out. They really are.

Well, I mean, and you've talked to Noah. So we understand like the personality profile. Like if we were going to check all the boxes for a kid that we want to lead our program, Noah Walters checks all those boxes. Yes. And that's, and the same thing with Courtney and a lot of these guys. I don't understand completely college recruiting, but you know, you and I understand about putting a program together. And some of these guys, there's such box checkers and the type of people that you want around when you're building something good.

Like, why wouldn't you just take them? You know, that four seat can go to a lot of people. And why doesn't it go to a really good person that can really help your culture and your team and all that kind of stuff? You know, they're smarter than me. They all are. That's what we get. We hear it all the time. This weekend's a big weekend for the NFL and these quarterbacks that are in play all have their own identity, their own skill sets.

I don't think there's a prototype playing this weekend. You're exactly right. You're exactly right. The example I used to give all the time, DP, I used to give this example about Brady, Breeze, Russell, and Cam Newton at one time. I said, you look at those guys. They're as different as can be, famously unathletic, six feet, under six feet. And then a guy who we know one time was told was too small or too tall to play in the NFL, right? A general manager in the NFL actually said that about Cam Newton.

But at that point, all four had been to the Super Bowl. So, you know, what are you looking for, right? Right. Are you looking for height? You're looking for this. You're looking for a guy who can lead men and who can execute, who can take command over the offense. that's what you're looking for. These other metrics,

67, 64, whatever package that comes in, I think it's worth paying attention to it. I think for this, that if you look at a Joe Burrell, what does Burrow bring to the table in your eyes? I have a great Joe Burrister. I am horrible looking at a college quarterback and say it was going to be a great pro.

The last guy I did that with was a guy named Alex Van Pelt. I think he was quarterback. That's where I saw him play, and I was just sure he was going to be all of the table. Yeah, right? I hope he's doing well. I hope he's doing well.

But when that didn't happen, I just said, I don't know what I'm looking at. When Joe Burroughs was at LSU, he almost made me break that seal, you know, because I was just watching what he was doing. He was so, so accurate with the ball placed, not just getting there, but where he was placing the ball. and something guy and I talk about a lot,

and even my college guys, we say six inches will make you a star. Your accuracy at that level, if you have it six inches one way or the other, that's a completion or an interception, and you have to get the completion. So Burroughs, along with this confidence that he has, has a great ability.

He's fundamentally sound, great base. You watch him climb the pocket. His feet never come together. pops to his base. You watch mechanically how he throws the ball. No wonder he's accurate. And then he seems to know the game. And when you look at the stuff that they were asking him to do at LSU, I really think a thing that had a big thing to do with his success in NFL is that LSU, he got used to processing defenders. Those concepts required that he look at a defender and that the

defender tell him where to go next with the ball. And you can check with Coach Joseph to tell me if that's not the case. And they had a trust in him to do it. He had receivers to do it. And that has really translated here. When you look at the all 22s and you watch how he's making decisions, it's good stuff. And then he has the ability to put the ball on people. There's some throws that he makes.

They're just really good throws. there's a famous story about Brett Farr. People would ask him about, you know, Brett, what's the read on this? What's the read on that? And evidently, Brett Farr would go, the read is, one, two, three, put it on them. And Joe Burroughs does a lot of that. One, two, three, put it on them. I love that.

And there's so much trust required there. Like, you know, that thing. Like, this is a conversation. Rico, I can tell you, Barry and I have had this conversation. We had this conversation some 35 years ago. Some 40 years ago. Like, hey, man, you know, you get it out of your hand and we'll handle the rest of it. How many times did D.P. tell you, hey, I'm going to be here. Just throw it.

He would tell me when we're getting off the bus. He said, yeah, dude, you know, I'm open. I'm like, we're walking off the bus. I just want you to know. It ain't going to change all night. I can just imagine D.P. many times just like that, just by 20 yards this way, five yards this way, just take your three steps and just throw it. If you don't see me, don't worry, I'll be there. No, yeah, there was that.

And he teases me, but that ball did come to him when I needed to get a time. Well, that was a... Not as much as he deserved, but it got it. No, that was a... I was like, listen, I'm here. I'll be here if you need me, but when you need me... Barry, Barry's like, I got to spread the love. I can't just throw it to you.

Talk to Rico. He said, they can get love at home. I need love. They have families. They have big family. Yeah. Let them figure out. Like they're already big.

A quarterback that we're talking about, and it's interesting that Jay was kind of pressing about Kirk Cousin. Uh-huh. I've always, when you talk about this elevation of quarterbacks in their play, it's also useful to look at the professionalism that's just right below them. And I know people feel all some kind of way about him. But I've watched Kirk be extremely productive for, thousand yards, 4,500 yards.

These were markers that, you know, Dan Marino would get a float for, right? And the first thing that ripped through that was Drew Brees. It was like an actor thought. Like Drew Brees is done for 5,000 yards more than, you know, Peyton and Brady combined. And then it's like it's not even a marker anymore, but you watch this guy and he's just consistent, right,

with his production. He's literally a professional quarterback, Maybe not much more. He's certainly not less. He's a professional. And that whole quarterback thing, that was once the elite status. And now he's in the status where people don't, you know what I mean? Don't really think about it.

Don't really talk about him. He's just considered the middle of the path. The quarterback game has really changed. I don't know if I'm making my point clear, but that this high watermark is now average. Yeah. Look, we did have $4,000. yard throwers.

So, yeah. The game has evolved to it. Kirk does, Kirk does well within it. There are the streams that people want from Kirk Cousins, present company included. But yeah, that $4,000 a year on purpose. Yeah.

Bravo. Bravo to that. Bravo to that. Yeah, and what's changing more is coming, because I have two quarterbacks of three for close to $3,000. Yeah. And this is in an area where they don't really, you know, they don't really believe that.

You know, but some kids just can't hold them back, and more are coming. Yeah, Virginia and Nebraska are very similar high school about how the game should be played. Like Virginia, the folks are there yelling, bring back the fullback as well. So that thing exists. Barry and I, as passing coordinators, we're stuck with a head coach who ran the wing tee. So if that gives you any idea about what we're talking about, Barry and I pulled our hair out because we were not wingedy guys. Barry, what do we eat, man? What do we eat?

Well, you know what? I've talked about this a couple times of chicken thighs about the brining and stuff like that. There's a thing called quick brine. It really makes all the difference in the world. It's about 30 ounces of water, three ounces of salt, some garlic. And then from there, you can put in whatever you want. I tend to go with rosemary and thyme. You put the chicken in that.

It's a heavy salt brine, so you don't want to brine it too long. I used to go about an hour. You take those thighs out. Really important that you dry them as best you can. The skin will not get crispy if it's dry. While that's going on, the skillets preheat to about $450, be careful pulling it out, goes in there about five minutes.

You see them brown and you shove them in the oven. And the thighs usually take about 15 minutes after that. Here's what's new. I've been looking and looking at times I cook at that pan once I take everything out. So now we've got a pan sauce going on. on D.P. So here's what you do. You want to get that chicken fat and those those fons that are on the bottom of that skillet. Get the chicken fat down to whatever you think a tablespoon is. Just pour it out. Take a tablespoon of flour. You're on medium high heat. Take a whisk. You're making a root is what

you're doing. And you want it. It'll be a light color and it'll start to turn not real dark brown, like caramel brown. At that point, put in your stock, maybe a cup, cup, and a half a stock. let that reduce over medium heat and then you want to maybe throw a squeeze a lemon and you want to taste it for seasoning and then after you do that you put in about two or three tablespoons of butter and let that work itself in and then at the end maybe a little bit of chopped parsley just sprinkled on there put that on top of that yeah yeah yeah Yeah, the Rooz School is real. You can mess up a lot of meals where you can actually, chef's gifts everything. Hey, go work out that young man. Give him a pat on the back for us, please.

Good luck to him going forward. But yeah, I'll have him on the show. I've got to talk to Guy Myers. We've got to do that. Okay, great. Thanks you. All right, brother. That's Barry Thompson's Fairfax Football Academy.

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