1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - One-On-One with DP: December 16th, 3pm - Ashley Scoggin (Husker Women's Basketball)
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basketball games that, you know, I'm okay with that.
10 and no right now.
How about, how about that?
10 and O.
We got to keep it that way, though.
Just adding to one side and not the other.
One game at a time.
Yes.
One and O, your coach, Coach Gray would tell you, go one and no.
That's all we care about is go one and O.
And you had a few days off you guys to kind of retool,
recharge, or reboot to get away from,
there's some craziness going on on campus.
Everybody's sick.
I know.
And you guys have managed to beat this.
What's going on?
You guys have the elixir and you're just not sharing it.
You got the special potion.
That's a great question.
I don't know.
I don't know what everybody else's be doing.
But I know like we do stay like pretty like wearing our masks as much as possible, all that type of stuff.
You know, washing your hands.
But I don't know.
Everybody, knock on wood.
Everybody's been pretty good.
It's a blessing.
So usually to, when we get folks in the first time,
I know more about you than they do.
So I will.
You just know how to do your research.
I just say, right, the same people, like the same building, you know, we, we spent time in the same building in Salt Lake City.
That was home for me.
It was home for you before you got here.
And I want people to know who you are.
Let's talk about family first.
Okay.
Right.
I have a follow-up question immediately, but you don't.
Let's talk about yours.
Well.
I mean, my family is amazing.
I think a lot of people, I mean, they are my rocks, been there through thick and thin.
And really, like, some of my only supporters when I was going through my injuries,
and they were always, like, encouraging positive, really just there for me whenever I needed them.
And I don't know if you know this, my family crushes rock for a living.
and that's like the greatest thing ever they I grew up like when I was first when I was first born
my mom was still playing in college so she had me when she was still playing and then I kind of
first two years of my life I grew up in the gym like that was kind of my first thing like I went
to practice with her I did everything with her and when she was done um
my life kind of shifted and I started going to work with them.
So I grew up in a dirty, dusty rock pit where you could eat dust, eat rocks, anything you
could imagine.
That's kind of where I grew up.
And so my family, other than them being like amazing, like I.
Well, mom's a baller.
Yeah.
My mom's a baller.
My dad, he went to BYU for a year and he did track and field.
and then he went on a mission.
And then their whole love story is crazy.
I won't get into that because that's a long one.
We'll get to that later.
Yeah.
But they just kicked it off.
And so I am so blessed to have them, like, as my parents have my, I'm the oldest out of three.
So I have a younger brother.
He is 20 in my.
sister is 19 and she's also at slick right now that's that's that's see so for those that don't know
slick is salt lake community college that's how that's like that's that's where the skoggins have went
and my my brother's actually going there I'm planning to go there in January that question two was
real simple who's the best shooter in the family oh it's by far me well see because I think your little
sister your mom might say otherwise so I don't think so right now my record my record for most
I've hit in a row is 37.
Just in workouts.
Just in workouts.
Side by side.
Yep.
Have you gotten retribution yet from the men for destroying them in the three-point shooting
contest before the season started and not getting credit for it?
Like, you won.
And it was like, wait, don't low-key this.
Let her have a minute.
I don't think they were ready for that, to be honest with you.
Because K-say, don't get me wrong, he is a very, very streaky shooter.
Once he gets going, it's hard to get him to stop.
But I had him that day.
Well, you had everybody that day.
I did.
You know, that was just.
But I got to give credit to my pastor, too, which is Coach Love, because he was given
some dimes.
I'm mad at, I'm mad at Coach Love.
Why?
Well, because he was supposed to roll through.
And then, you know, he got busy.
I'm like, okay, I'm not, I'm going to pursue women's basketball, but I'm not going
to stalk women's basketball.
to come and give their fans another way to get to know them a hard time for you.
Please do.
Please do.
I even offered him food that day.
And he didn't like, he was like, I'm coming back.
And he, uh, for some reason, the dudes are real friendly.
And the women, the wall is up.
I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We got to do better than that.
So coming from that type of family, there's an innate toughness that happens.
Oh, for sure.
And you have shown toughness at a level that most athletes don't have to go through,
won't ever know what is this thing let's talk about the injuries and the recovery because a lot of
people would have tapped out by now oh yeah like they would have tapped out 100 percent i get told
that all the time yeah so let's go through the injuries the severity and then how you got through
um well i tore my first i tore my left ACL my senior year of high school uh did not play my
senior year I sat out did not play um I decided to take a gap year just to get my body you know back
into shape you know ready to go um and at that time all the division one schools I was talking to
dropped off just stopped pursuing and that was really hard for me to deal with because I had been
preparing basically my whole life up to that point to get to where I wanted to go and so like that
I really had a hard time dealing with that mentally.
But I kind of looked at it, okay, like, you know, this is just one thing that I can, I can do this.
I'll just, I'll get through it.
And, you know, credit to my family, like, they're very, like, really teach, like, mental toughness.
And so they, you know, help me along with that.
And once I decided to go to slick, I was like, all right, this is my second chance.
Like, this is my time to get back into that light, get back into, like, people able to see me.
Because I had been out of the game for, you know, a little bit at that point.
People don't see you.
They forget talking about it.
Right, right.
So, um, I went to slick six games into my freshman year, tore my right one.
And I was like, you're, you're kidding.
Like, not, not again.
Like, I have the video on my phone of, like, when it happened.
and the first thing I thought about was you just have to get up like you just have to get up I the trainer after that happened was like can you run I sprinted down the hallway and I was like I tore it though there there was like I did I just kind of knew it because after that first one I was like you don't forget the feeling and so when that happened I was like yeah it's it's gone um so I
tour it November 17th,
2018, and I had surgery
January.
What day was it? I can't remember the exact date.
It amazes me that when they know you have a serious injury
and they make you wait like that.
Yeah, I mean, health insurance is crazy.
I don't know, like, I had to go through so many loops
because I also,
I was at slick and they did not have health insurance to cover that.
I mean, it's a juco.
So they're not going to, you know.
So we had to figure all that out.
And I was like, what I had thought with the second one is that I was like, I've done this once before, I can do it again.
And so I was like, I'll just, same thing, just tough it out.
I'm going to do my rehab.
I'm going to lift my weights.
I'm going to get in the gym when I can.
And I really tried to, I think I was a lot more positive with the second one than I was with the first one.
The first one was definitely like very hard for me to deal with.
Just because, like, that was my worst fear.
Like, it was getting injured, especially because I had so many friends that had torn their ACLs and were never the same.
And I was like, I can't be like them.
Like, I can't.
Like, there's no way that I want to, like, be a version of myself or do anything that's, like, not as good as what I used to be like.
So I really tried to focus on, like, what I could control, like, in that moment, in that day.
They, you know, small victories were huge throughout, you know, those two processes.
So I had surgery in January and I went through all my rehab.
I got cleared, I think in June, June or July, either one of those.
And as soon as I got cleared, I like went to play and my knee had popped.
And I was like, huh, that's a little funny.
That shouldn't happen, especially like six.
seven months post-surgery. And it didn't hurt or anything like that. It just kind of felt like a huge
thud. And I was like, I'm okay. Like, I'm good. And then I had called my parents because I was,
I was at the gym and they were at work. And I had called them and I was like, uh, you know,
something happened, but I don't really know what happened. And they were like, well, what do you
mean and I was like well I can walk I can I can do stuff but it kind of feels a little weird and um
they're like okay so we scheduled an appointment with my doctor like a week or two later and um
he like tested and everything he was like oh yeah like you're all good you're all fine your ACL's
doing what it's supposed to do and I was like okay because in my mind I didn't want to have surgery
again because I was like I already did two of them too was okay I
I don't want to do three.
Right.
So I went like another week, week and a half, and it like still was not getting better.
Like I could work out.
I could play.
But it was like I was probably 60, 70 percent.
Like I could still do everything, but it just wasn't to the level.
I couldn't explode like I wanted to.
And so I called him again.
And I was like, look, like this is not getting any better.
He did not want to order my MRI, like, did not want to order it.
And I was like, I know what my body feels like.
Like, there's no harm in ordering the MRI.
Like, we can just get one.
If it's not torn, that's perfectly fine.
I just want to know.
And so finally ordered one three weeks after the initial thing happened.
And went to go see him.
And this was like two weeks before I would have went to slick for my second year.
And get the results back or whatever.
I literally I go to his office with my mom, my dad, and I think my sister was there with me.
And he was like, yeah, so your ACL's completely fine.
And I was like, okay, tested it again, like, seemed like there was not much movement within my joint or whatever.
And, you know, it seemed like it was pretty okay.
So he was like, yeah, like, it just seems everything looks good.
Like you can just go and play as you feel comfortable.
So that was like music to my ears at the time.
because I was like he told me exactly what I wanted to hear and um I was like all right
because I was getting ready to start practice start conditioning like all that type of stuff
and so I got to slick and um I started playing practicing with my team um I could I could basically
do everything I could like actually play I just was like not 100 percent and it like felt
off to me. But I was like, he told me I was fine. So I just got to work through it, right?
I kept working through it. I just kept working through it. And so probably two months after
I had seen him and started like doing practices and everything like that, we had a jamboree in
Colorado. And we went to go play. And like two times my knee gave out. And I, I was. And I,
I was like, it hurt, but it wasn't to the point where I was like, dang, like, there's
like, there's something wrong with it. And I couldn't, like, you can't put like your finger on it
because he was like, he told me I was fine. Well, that, you know, there's that. And so I was like,
all right, I called my mom. And you're a tough, you're a tough. Yeah, I just kind of, I have a pretty
high pain tolerance. So I was just like, all right, I'm going to just keep playing. I'm going to
just get over it. And so it had popped two times in the jamboree. And then we,
had like another scrimmage when we got back to slick i think like a few days later and um i was just
on defense and i just went to go step and they went clunk clunk and i i didn't fall or anything i just
was just like you know and i was like there's there's something wrong like i knew that there was
something wrong and so i that day called my surgeon and i said uh left him a message
their office like didn't answer left a message still to this day never called me back
that is like and that's so juco um the accountability is it's amazing we're talking to ask
skagher from women's basketball um so they don't respond and then uh i was like i have to get
a second opinion like that was the first thing that we had thought of um because the surgeon
that i had surgery with like the first time who did my left because like i was
Obviously, like, I trusted him.
Yeah.
He did well on my left, on my left one the first time.
So I was like, I'm going to just go back to him because he did so good.
So, you know, after that had happened, I was like, you know what, we need to get a second opinion.
Because he was back home.
And I was like, you know, let's just see if there's somebody here in Utah that could do my surgery.
Yeah.
That could figure out what's really going on in there.
Because I can't see.
I just know what it feels like.
Where'd you go?
So I had a few people tell me where to go.
go and they all said go to Dr. Mack.
And he is the Utah Jazz orthopedic surgeon.
And he is amazing.
Him and his staff and Mark Beas,
I think that's how you say his last name,
were so good.
And I didn't feel like when I had asked them questions
or had told them what had happened,
I think at first they were like,
are you sure you just didn't retare, you know?
because that is like there is a good percentage of girls especially nowadays like you know
so i had told them this story i had went to go see him and the first time when he had tested it
like he was like yeah your ACL has been gone and i was like you're kidding you are kidding me
like what bone to bone just hanging out and um so he tested it he did everything he was like yeah so
we're going to, you know, have to get some more x-rays MRI.
We're going to just have to start all over because I don't know what it looks like inside of
there.
So got another MRI.
He looked at it, everything like that.
And at first, he thought it was going to have to be a two-part surgery because he was like,
if I have to use the same drill hole that he used in your femur, if I have to use even a portion
of that, I'm going to have to pack it in with bone first and then drill the hole.
My knee is hurting just having you talk about it.
it's been through a lot.
It's had some trauma for sure.
But he, once he went in there, he was just like, no, we're all good.
Come to find out, the drill hole that was in my femur was so far out into left field that he didn't even use it.
And he was like, yeah, I don't usually, I don't usually say this.
But your previous surgeon really kind of messed it up.
And I was like, that's just really great to hear.
like on a bad side because I was like it wasted like a year and a half of me being able to play.
But you, but you,
you managed to get to link it.
I did.
How is that like how does that happen from third surgery, maybe fourth?
You know, there's a botch.
Yeah.
Then they finally get it.
And you've got a bridge from that day to a day where Amy Williams decides that
she wants to be a part of the program.
What happened?
Yeah, that's a whole crazy story on its own.
See, but this is why, this is why.
Because I was a part of the COVID year.
That's even crazier.
So this is why I was saying when we were talking before the show,
I said, first of all, you've got too many stories to tell in a segment.
Yeah.
And there's a, we have ways of getting those stories out.
Uh-huh.
But I have plenty.
Right.
Like to be able to do that.
So Nick, as you can imagine, right, this is.
I'm like, okay, so we need more of this,
but we got to figure out how to do it.
Through all of that, and as we go forward,
you get here, COVID year,
the team has some success against tough competitors,
and then you dropped out and played the level of lesser teams.
And somehow this year you guys have figured out what the difference is.
What's different this year than from last year?
I think from last year,
think that this year group is way tougher. I think like our toughness and kind of our ability to,
okay, say if like there is a mistake that happens, say if, you know, they get a few offensive
rebounds. We're more of like putting our foot down like, no, they can't get another one. You know,
and I think like this year we seem a lot more connected as a group, a lot more like chemistry-wise.
I think it's better. Even though like last year we had a lot of the same people, like only Kate
really was the one that left.
But I think last year was really big for us in terms of like we had to work through
kind of like everybody being new.
We had a lot of new people.
And I think at times last year you'd try to figure out, okay, like, what's my role?
What am I supposed to do?
You know, all that type of stuff.
And this year it works a lot better because I think everybody is like, okay, this is what
I'm really good at.
Let me do that.
but see there's a there's a perfect pin because the men's program struggles at the things that you guys do extremely well yeah
that's very true which is really sad but yeah but in the in in the simplest element basketball is basketball
yeah yeah their game is played above the rim yours is played on the floor yeah but the basic and the
fundamental things don't change right and you guys are better at
ball movement, spacing, trusting one another.
And those are things that happen.
But you're also shooting lights out as a team.
Yeah.
So give me, if you were able to get into, get to the men shooters and explain how much work
you put in as a shooter on a daily to weekly basis.
On a daily to weekly basis.
To get to the level that you're shooting at.
What would you say?
Well, I'm in there every day.
Well, but you need to be next to them.
See, like, see, that's the, like, that's hard, though, because sometimes you'll see them in there.
And, like, they'll be like, say it.
Say it. Say it. Say it.
They'll just look like they're struggling. I don't know.
Like, what?
No, and I know, look, I know your friends with them. So, like, I know that this.
I don't want to, like, rip on them too bad.
No. Here's the rule in here is the truth is the truth.
All right.
All right.
Now, if you can make it funny, even.
better. But the truth is, the truth is the truth is, I also think that we don't care who scores.
I don't think we care really who scores. See, if these mics weren't attached, one would have just
fell and hit the table. Because I mean, like, I mean, it's sometimes hard, though. I think, like,
a lot of people, you want to get to the next level, you want to show, like, what you can do,
but sometimes that can be detrimental to the team. And I think, like, one thing our team does really
well is we share because we don't care.
Like we're like we know we know that okay if if Sam is driving she gets a rebound she's
coming down middle of the lane like who if it's a three on two who are you going to pick?
Well you got you guys run Marymount you get to your space you're out front of the wing you got
you got jazz making her move on the wing yeah you've got a late post from a big and you've got a
corner yeah like and you all can knock down the shot like who are you going to pick?
kick. See, that's, I think, and again, this is, okay, so this is where we are, because I knew
this was the conversation we were going to have. So through that, what's your, what's your schedule
for the next 45 minutes? For the next 45 minutes. What do you have to do? When do I have to give you
back to the program? Oh, well, you got me for 45 minutes. Okay, so let me do this. I've got a wrestling
coach that I want to bring in. All right. But I want to bring you back. Okay. So I'm going to go in and
torture Rico for the next 15 minutes.
All right, I'll come torture you, Rico.
And then I'll bring you back on. I'll bring you back on.
And we'll finish these next two conversations.
All right.
Because this is exactly what I thought it was going to be talking to Ashley Skaghan from
Husker's basketball with toward a break when we come back.
Wrestling coach and son.
Lincoln East High School, state champions.
I want to bring them in.
They've got a dual meet later today.
I wanted to get them in here at 3.30.
And then I'll bring back Ashley.
And we will continue this conversation.
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