1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - Rico Rants about Eric Crouch: April 26th, 10:25am

Episode Date: April 26, 2022

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You're listening to one-on-one with DP. Brought to you by Beatrice Bakery. On 937 The Ticket and the Ticketfm.com. Eric, what is your last name on the text line? Oh, no. I didn't even put that together, Eric. You're going after Rico pretty hard. Eric loves me.

Here's time to cancel Rico. Look, I'm sorry that I made a discovery. I never I never actually looked up his stats because I just assumed as I'm sure many other people assumed you won the Heisman you must have been amazing

and he was as a running quarterback but in the part of passing he was okay which is part of the job seven touchdowns ten interceptions are not Heisman numbers you win the Heisman for being

the best player in college football I get that but those stats, man. When you went down the list, he just went, wait a minute. Oh, this, oh, okay. Eric says you've had some terrible takes in the past, but this Eric Crouch one is at the top. I doubt that.

I've had terrible takes. So why vouched for Tommy? Tommy had like 21 and 4. Yeah. On top of his running stats. Right. Like he only threw for, you know, 1,500 yards, but he had 21 and 4 along with rushing for, you know, 600, 500 plus yards.

Tommy is why Crouch got the Heisman. Is that a fair statement? Yes. Okay. Somebody for the University of Nebraska is calling me right now. What's up? No, tell, answer right now and tell them to call on the air. No, do it.

Do it. Hold out here. Keep talking. Do it. This is necessary because I'm not, look, I've had very awful takes. I understand that. Yes, it is. But the thing is, I just don't like, yes, Tyler, I agree with that.

Both should have won in your opinion. Maybe just Tommy. I don't know about Eric. And I'm not trying to be rude and I'm not trying to get canceled. And this isn't me having all of these takes just trying to, just trying to, you know, heat up the airwaves or anything like that. But again, seven touchdowns and 10 interceptions for a Heisman winner just does not seem Heisman-esque.

yes, he probably, I'll have to look up, you know, the rest of his stats. I'll go back right now. I'll look at the rest of his stats. His rushing stats from that year, he rushed for 1,115 yards and 18 touchdowns, and he had the one touchdown reception. That's cool. You know, great moment. That's his Heisman moment, as people would say.

But I don't, I don't know, man. The 1,000 plus yards and 18,000. touchdowns is impressive, but I think the seven touchdown 10 interceptions kind of knocks that down a bit. Again, I'm not saying that Rex Grossman deserves the Heisman over Eric Crouch. I'm not saying that. But to, oh, man, to get 162 first place votes with those passing statistics is just nuts. And I understand people are going to try and cancel me. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.

Nick, don't. Don't do that. I don't know where D.P. Maybe it's a very serious conversation with whoever's calling him from the university. Maybe I am getting canceled for having this one take. But I also have the take

that people need to talk more about Rich Glover getting third place to the Heisman. Because I did not know that. We're going to go to the Honda of Lincoln hotline. Bill is on the line. What's up, Bill? Bill. Bill's gone.

there is no bill bill call back i don't know what you're saying but mark was laughing therefore it must have been pretty good is bill back not bill how does how does that rate to martinez's stats last season well tuchet joe but martinez wasn't even in the running for a heisman he was nowhere close to a heism in fact he transferred now we've got bill back hey bill what's up Hey, Rico. Hey, I know this is a little bit different, but I want you to keep in mind. Eric Crotch might have been seven touchdowns, 10 interceptions. But Terry Bradshaw won four Super Bowls in the Hall of Fame, and he was 212 for 2.10.

It's not necessarily your touchdown interception ratio that makes you a great quarterback. It's the ability to lead. Terry Bradshaw was arguably one of the best quarterbacks of all time, and he hardly threw the ball at all. So just kind of throwing a bone to my buddy, Eric, to help him out. And Bill, if you want to say, I understand that it's not all about the passing stats, and it's not about the touchdown to interception ratio, as you said. But to win the Heisman is to be the best player in college football. And to be the best player in college football,

I feel as if you need to have a better touchdown to interception ratio than negative three. Well, negative 3 is probably not good But what are his career numbers? This isn't a career No, the Heisman is not a career Lifetime Achievement Award The Heisman is one season

At least it should be And I understand that But a lot of times it is I mean, Worfell got his Because he was, there was a lifetime Achievement Award for him And Worfell didn't deserve it His senior season

Just because his senior season Was okay But it was not Here he was probably Third or fourth best Overall player but he still got the high school. So if you're giving it to lifetime achievements.

But here, Crouch's career numbers are 29 TDs and 25 interceptions. That's positive. That is positive. But if you're giving it to a lifetime achievement awards, I mean, Trevor Lawrence should have won it. And I would not disagree with that. I think Trevor Lawrence should have won. I think we're just going to have to agree to. Well, but also rest on the number that 48% as the passing.

as a completion percentage is a thing, right? Yeah, and that's not great. In either league, that's not great. And I'm great with Crouch getting the Heisman. It's just when you speak it out loud, it sounds ridiculous. Yeah, it does. Like, we're not, I'm not belowing his thing. Did he deserve it?

Yes. Yes, because based on what was going on that year, yeah, absolutely he did. He absolutely did. But, man. And this is another thing. And you think of this every year with different players. But every time Crouch had the ball in his hands, you were waiting for something exciting to happen

because you knew something exciting was going to happen. Right. Yeah. Right. And that goes across the board. I mean, you guys spoke Eddie George earlier. You know, he was a great running back. Guys were tired of tackling him by the middle of the second quarter.

Yeah. He was big, strong, dominant player. he earned that Heisman. Now, did Tommy deserve to be in the conversation? He definitely did, and he was. Eddie George just edged him out that year. So it's all relative. I think a lot of it's marketing with individual schools.

But it's what it is. But Whirlful, I'm with the guys. Whirlful, I still don't get, 25 years later, I still don't get that. You've done a great day. We'll talk at you later. Thank you, Bill. Thank you, Bill.

Again, I'm not saying the crutch didn't deserve the Heism. I'm just saying that the passing statistics make you do a double take. So to tell you, to point of reference, Tommy threw for 47 touchdowns versus 18 interceptions career. He's 47 and 18. You want to go lifetime achievement. 47 and 18 plus the 36 TD is Russian. You want to go lifetime achievement. That's like that Tommy should have got his senior for lifetime achievement.

And they're both, again, I think. both deserved it for the years that they had when they had them. But when you go back and look at it and go from 10,000 feet, without skin in the game, without being connected to the program, you would go, hey, was there ever a quarterback who won the Heisman who had seven TDs and 10 interceptions and to a human being across the country in just in unanimous form? They would go, no. Oh, by the way, they threw 48%.

Oh, hell no. Oh, but they were Eric Crouch and they put they did. Nobody ran for 1100 yards and 20 touchdowns or something like that. Right. So, Rashon Jackson has has joined us. He is in. He came sprinting in the door. Yeah, early.

Heels on fire. What's up, Sean? Heels on fire. The spillover is really a spillover. He really spilled the milk, Rico. What did I do? You just opened the Pandora's box. I mean, am I, am I, if, okay, look, 2000, we're, we're 21 years removed from this.

18 to 20 touchdowns is, is here's what I tell you. Here's, here's, here's my take on it. Tommy should have absolutely absolutely. Absolutely. Yes. Hands down. Right. Mm-hmm.

Eric Crouch scored 18, 19 touchdowns. He received a touchdown. Mm-hmm. Right. That's his high. So let's, let's put him, let's give him 19. touchdowns to go with that seven. Mm-hmm.

Okay, so now we're... He threw it. He threw it. So that's 25 touchdowns that year. Plus 26. So adding the reception. With seven picks. So 26 touchdowns.

10 picks. 10 picks. 10 picks. No, seven touchdown. Okay. Okay. So 26 total with the touchdown passes, right? Mm-hmm.

Okay. And 10 picks. That's not bad. I mean, that's not bad. We're not saying it was bad. I'm not saying he didn't... Heisman-ish. I'm saying as a quarterback, look, as a quarterback,

21 years later, you go back, you look at the quarterback stats. When you think of a quarterback, this is what you're looking at. And I understand it was a different era, but you look at the guy right behind him in second place, threw for 3,500 yards, 3,800 yards. What was their record? Tommy had 34, 34 touchdowns in 95. 34.

Wow. 18 to 4 picks. He was 18 of 6, 18 and 6 were his numbers. And he was not a pass. You got to look at the times. You got to look at what's going on in 2001. Who the players were. Who was second in Heisman voting?

But that's why we were going down the list. How we got into this was going through former Heisman winners and number one picks. And when you go up and down the list of Heisman winners, what jumps out at you is some of the matchups over who won and who didn't. Now, let's just say for the sake of argument, for the sake of discussion, right? Go to Chris Winky the year before. 2000. 2000, right? Chris Winky, again, career award.

This is more, hey, you've done your thing at this high level. Let's forget the fact that he was 29 years old. But Winky, 2,000, give the numbers, give the rundown for the year 2000. The rundown for the year 2000. Chris Winky, Josh Heipel, Drew Brees, LaDaney and Thomason, Damien, Anderson or your top five. Michael Vix is six. And you weren't going to give it to LaDadian because of where he played.

That was pretty simple. He had 2,158 rushing yards, 22 touchdowns. And it wasn't enough. It had an average six yards of carry. It wasn't going to be enough. And then here's what's funny too. Winky's numbers were so weird that if you, like, if you go and search his numbers, the top of your head falls off.

He 266 for 4367 yards, 333, 33 touchdowns, and 11 interceptions. Sling it around. And again, but when you look at everybody behind him. So Crouch did exactly what Crouch should do in that space. We're good with it. Just when you go back and look at it, the things you have to talk about that season.

You cannot talk about Eric Crouch and his husband here and saying how great he is without saying he threw seven touchdowns and 10 picks. And that's not, I don't look at it as a slight. slight we were just kind of in awe I did not know that like we were kind of in all like what does this happened so it's not

he also he also Eric Crouch also won the Davey O'Brien yeah I'm not I'm again I'm just saying I'm I'm agreeing with you guys when you look at the grand scheme of things you can do that for Jason White for the for the O'Brien award as well you can do that for Jason Jason White in Oklahoma you go through that you do that for Troy Smith

at Ohio State when in 2006 right you look at the 2006 year and that Troy Smith collected 92% of the Heisman vote. 801. Second place had 45 first place votes.

Like dominant. And then you look at the other numbers. You go, okay, never mind. Never mind. Like, never mind. So we'll throw it to break. We'll fully cross over here. On one.

Colt bred into 2006. You're hilarious. We'll be right back. Watch live on Facebook, YouTube, or Twitch. You're listening to One-on-One with DP on 937 The Ticket and The Ticketfm.com.