1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - The Origins of Pro Teams (HOUR 2) - September 1st, 2025

Episode Date: September 1, 2025

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so yeah, it doesn't always tell you, you know, holiday-based or otherwise. But, you know, because if they're open, I was going to send Rudy. Let's see. Let's see what it says. Let's see what it says. I just have to give them a callout break here and make sure.

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We'll support it. Like, that would be an interesting thing. It's always good. Well, I mean, you know, it's rainy. It's, it's, 64 degrees, you know, something, something good for the tummy.

Um, would be, I think it would be fantastic. So, uh, 402, 464, 5, 685 is the Sartre Hamon text line. Be a part of what we're doing. You can hit us up. Uh, and then follow on all the live video streams as well. Uh, you can follow what's going on. The text, you know, Joe B says, you can't forget Jackie Moon and the Flint, Flint topics.

Um, was there was, this. Flint? Flint. Not Flint, Michigan. Yeah. I'm with the tropics? Yeah. That movie's funnier than I remember.

Right. Think about Flint, Michigan being the tropics. Right. That's, okay, that cracks me up. John and Cortland says, Wes and Earl Monroe, we were talking about the Baltimore bullets before they became the Washington bullets,

before they became the Washington Wizard. And prior to the Washington bullets, it was the Washington Capitals of the ABA who came from California, the California Oaks, and they moved to D.C. Their feature was Rick Berry, Hall of Fame, Rick Berry. But Rick Barry didn't want to play in D.C. And when they moved from D.C. to Virginia,

Rick Barry really didn't want to play in Virginia. Again, as you talk about familiarity, his knowledge of Virginia was limited. and he's like, why would I go, why do I go way down there, not knowing it, they're connected. They're connected, not that far apart. But they also didn't have a home home. They played some games in Norfolk and some games in Richmond. I saw them as a child in Richmond at the old Richmond Coliseum,

which ended up being my college basketball stadium. So pretty cool. But this was when there was a time when, okay, ready to be? for this. There was a year when Julius Irving and George Gervin, the Iceman, were on the same team in Virginia. What years is this?

I want to say this was 70, 73, 74. Okay. They both played for Virginia Squires. As a matter of fact, they had another scorer, All-Star, in Charlie Scott. Charlie Scott who played in North Carolina.

He was one of the original superstar players at Carolina Charlie Scott and Billy Cunningham played together at North Carolina but there was a time when the Virginia Squires again they were loaded they had man they had some players they had big center

seven footer Billy Paltz Billy Pulse who made his career he ended up being part of a trade that got traded to the San Antonio Spurs Spurs were also at ABA team Yep that one I knew that's the one I do you remember i know being an amos the spurs and uh you and virginia and there were a lot of trades back then because it was how people stay the float financially um there some of the best

business deals weren't being done in uh certainly not not some of the best marketing i mean i believe i think you might told me this or i was listening to somebody like there was dancing bears yeah you're going to game wrestling bear wrestling at half time uh-huh yeah And you're on the bus and you still haven't gotten paid for the last like two weeks worth of games. And you're heading all the way to D.C. for another one. Yeah. You got no money in your pocket. It was tough.

So when I, so if you know your Nebraska hoops, Geron Boone, who had his run here, his dad played the ABA. It was an ABA All-Stars. Matter of fact, he played in that infamous All-Star game in Denver, that first one. so is that how you linked with Ron Boone then well yeah because me and his death so when I went to when I went to Salt Lake

I was covering the winter Olympics and somebody saw me and asked me if I wanted to would I consider moving to Utah and they paired me originally

with Ron Boone um no they originally they originally paired me with Tom Nassalki, former coach who passed away just a little bit ago, but he was a former NBA coach of the year back in the day. And then I ended up getting paired with Ron Boone.

So I did a morning show with Ron Boone, the legend, Ron Boone. And then he and Hot Rod Hundley, of course, notorious voice of NBA basketball and then the Lakers, who literally taught me how to do play-by-play. And so Ron Boone would share the stories. And you never knew who was going to call in to our show

because, you know, Ron was a legend. He went from Utah, the Utah Stars to the L.A. Lakers. He's part of that trade, the L.A. Stars and then the Lakers and then back to the Utah Jazz when they came from New Orleans. And he wasn't real happy about being traded to Utah. But he was pulled in and he became part of the broadcast. team with Howard Huntley. And the notorious Utah Jazz broadcast team of Hot Rod Huntley and Ron Boone had a run of games all the way through. As a matter of fact, Ron Boone still

the radio guy for the Utah Jazz paired with Craig Bolagack and there's some folks, right, David Locke, who as a matter of fact, David Locke, who started locked on sports, whose daughter is a golfer, at Nebraska full circle. He's the guy on. Arden Lockbott is her, is her, she's, she's a golfer here. I thought that locked on network's awesome. Yeah.

It's really, because it's literally every, any team you can imagine, there's a network for it. Yeah, and it's, well, I mean,

we had rights to, yeah, you did it for a while there. And then we handed it over because I don't know, I got a little busy. It's one of those things. I mean,

got a little busy, but I wanted to get it started. Yeah. But David Locke is the guy who started. So the guy who started locked on sports, who it's named after, his daughter is a golfer at the University of Nebraska. And a future broadcaster if she doesn't go pro. I'm going to be locked on golf network.

She's probably going to go pro in golf. I think that's the full aspiration. So that was my connection to it. And then there was a rebirth or rebranding of the ABA in the 2000s. Still pretty good basketball. There's a team in franchise in Utah called the Utah Snow Bears. On that team, Geron Boone, Tony Farmer. Tony Farmer actually played was the starting power forward on that team.

So, you know, we had folks that were around. And because of my engagement with that, calling those games and setting up how those games are going to be broadcasted, I became the official voice of the ABA. So as a part of my professional moniker was the former official voice of the American Basketball Association. So you learned a lot of the history of it. And Frank Layden, of course, was very supportive of it. And you just go, wow, this is how the business is done.

The evolution of sports you have to pay. So were you calling the ABA when the merger happened? No. I wonder what that would have been like. No, that's a different era. I'd have been a teenager in that merger. Yeah, I don't know. Let me see if I can find out when the merger was.

Let's see here. The merger was 1976. So, no, I'd have been 14 years old. There's a, do you know, by chance, do you know who the original commissioner of the original ABA was? No, no idea. George Miken. The Miken drill.

The Miken drill himself. The league started with 11 teams, the Indiana Pacers, Kentucky Colonels. The Minnesota Muskees. That's a great name. Think politics is the reason why. Yeah, the Muskie family. The New Jersey Americans. The Pittsburgh Pipers.

Those were the Eastern Division teams in the West. The Anaheimam amigos. What a great name now. I need to find that shirt. I had a Dallas Chaperoles jersey,

which became the Mavericks, sir. Why? Because there was the Dallas Chaparles and the Houston Mavericks. They merged together and ownership to Denver Rockets. The New Orleans

Buccaneers. That doesn't fit it all. The New Orleans, sir. Actually, it does. If you know the, if you know the Gulf, stories that New Orleans is a port town.

And in its growth, tons of pirates, right? Really? I didn't know that type of time. It was happening in our beautiful Gulf down there. Yes, sir. They were robbing ships in the Gulf. Yes, they were. All right.

They do get some credits to the name. Yes, they do. What's more fitting? Florida, but currently the Buccaneers in Florida or Florida? Same pirates. Same fire. Okay.

Same pirates. It works. Same pirates. Same pirates. They went through, so the rules of engagement, of course, with Mike and as the original commissioner,

came up with the idea for the three-point shot to go along with the 30-point, the 32nd shot clock, ABA origin. And then echoing the NHL, the league named its most viable player for the season, rather, for the entire postseason, rather than just for the finals.

So the MVP wasn't just the finals MVP. He was the playoffs MVP. Jesus, the NBA shaped so much about the NBA is. Shot clock is like one of the biggest changes that needed to happen. Oh, a lot of the changes. There were a lot of things, but some of the people, I mean, Connie Hawkins played in the league, Roger Brown,

Doug Moe as a player before he got in, Spencer Haywood, Larry Brown, of course, who's thought to be too small to play in the NBA. so he played in the ABA. You know, they moved folks around. Indianapolis became involved. The league ownership was all over the place. Mel Daniels were the Pacers players.

But artist Gilmore, Daniels, George Gervyn, if you had an all-A-team, I think that might be the lane that you go. And I'm not sure you could do it in five players, first of all. Matter of fact, I know you can't do it in five players. But Irving, Gervyn, Gilmore, Moore Issel, Thompson, McGinnis, Haywood, Moses Malone.

Bollone was in the NBA for a while. Ballone was in the ABA because he was drafted out of Petersburg High School in Virginia and played in the league for a couple of years before he went over to the NBA. I'm trying to think of who else would have made the all NBA. Charlie Scott probably. Maybe Billy Pultz.

Did you say Walton had a run in the NBA or no? Walton. Okay, so Walton had a run not in the ADA, but for the San Diego Clippers. Before they were Los Angeles, they were San Diego. And you want to talk about

one of the greatest, one of the coolest jerseys ever? That's San Diego. Yeah. Yeah, the San Diego Clippers. they only lasted. Walton played for them for four years. It is a powder blue jersey.

Okay. With red and white trim. And Walton played for them. I want to say he played for them three, four years. Like the Oilers color scheme a little bit? Maybe not that deep. There was another franchise that had the powder blue, which was Buffalo, the Buffalo Braves.

Buffalo Braves, who was one of my favorite teams to watch back in the day. they had maybe two stars that were easily the most watchable Bob McAdoo maybe the most

underrated great score in basketball history Bob McAdo was a walking problem I thought my dad he was a bucket man listen if you don't understand Bob McGrue played for North Carolina

another one that played from North Carolina in the run which is probably why we dislike North Carolina because they had so many It's starting to make sense. Well, Philly Kenningham, Charlie Scott, like literally just in these conversations, and we haven't gotten to the full four-time-to-legarde, bitch cup chat.

Well, the older you get, you realize, Leitner is just the tip of the iceberg. Well, Duke, that's Duke. And that's, but. Oh, I'm thinking. Layner was required to end the North Carolina nonsense. We needed Duke to become Duke. You needed Valvano at NC State, and you needed. Shashefsky at Duke to calm down the dirty tar heels of Carolina.

It was too much. It was too much, I tell you. So what did you? Is it late in or Coach Kay or was it before when the Duke had started? In the, well, you didn't hate Duke until Coach Kay. Okay. Because they were the bottom of the ACC. Yeah.

They were terrible. They, their best player was, they had two guys, Bob Bender and Jim Spinnarkle. Jim Spinnarkle. Great name. Sprinorkel 34. He was a shooter score, a ball handler, a pretty good ball player,

but he and Bender did their thing. They did not have, they got Gene, Gene Banks during that time, who was a Philly native, who played small forward, who helped change it. But they were going to fire Shashefsky

because Duke was so bad. They were going to fire him. They really were. It sounds like every great coach has that at one point in their career. Oh, 100%. 100%. 100%

they didn't want him they brought him from Army they didn't want him he was a Bobby Knight assistant they didn't want him yeah they did yeah she Shechevsky's two grades right they didn't want him and they got him in and it just didn't go well but one bottom feeder what are you working with

well you're in the ACC back then when when it was like it was a problem like Duke and Clemson were the worst of the ACC I mean you had I mean North Carolina and the Phil Ford four-corner often,

Dean Smith and four-corner offense, which, oh, ugh, ugh, it makes my stomach hurt just to talk about them. But Duke didn't get good, and then all of a sudden, they get lucky,

and they get Johnny Dawkins from Mackin-high in D.C. Then you get, you get, Leitner and Mark Allerie. That's right. Jay Billis. and they talk about the class.

There's a great 30 for 30. I just want to think it. Yeah, it's a great one. There's a great 30 for 30. Tell the story. The class that saved Mike Schoeschowski. And then they still struggled with, even with that group. And then they got Tommy Amherker to come in and play point card.

And Tommy, of course, from my neck of the woods, man. Actually, he played with my younger brother, Wendell. Your neck of the woods makes no sense half the time. Oh, baller, a baller, on baller, on baller, on baller. That they brought in Tommy. Tommy's from W.T. Woodson, so you'll hear that's where Barry and I coached. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then Tommy came in and was the glue that put it all together for Duke. Because they hadn't beaten Carolina. And then finally that group beat Carolina, beat Carolina in Chapel Hill, and beat NC State with Valvite. not to mention that you're talking about the post Virginia era, Virginia wasn't very good until they get Ralph Samson. You know, Virginia was at the bottom of the ACC with guys like Barry Parkhill, who, you know, I think Parkhill average 17 a game,

but he was kind of it for them. And then, oh, you know, Jeff Jones, with Ralph Samson, they get Othell Wilson, Ricky Stokes and Jeff Carlisle. Rick Carlisle, Rick Carlisle, the coach for Pacers,

was their number two guard. Was he good as a player? He really was. Shooter? Yeah, you knew what you were getting with Carlisle. But that was kind of

the core in that space was that there were so many folks who made the game. You didn't hate Duke because Duke was terrible. They were terrible. It's just hard to think we got the Austin Ormins

of the world running around. It's hard to imagine an era. Oh, This is why I mock it. Like, stop it. If you, if you can't tell me the Jim Sponarkal run,

um, the Sponorkel run. The Jim Sponarkle era at Duke. I'm just starting using that against Duke fan. Do you even know who Jim Sponarkle is? Tell me, tell me what, tell me Jim Sponarkle's number.

Tell me Bob Bender's number. Otherwise, you're just playing it. You're just playing with it. Like, you're just front running. Stop it. Stop it.

That's my favorite thing about Austin Norman. Is that he's a Duke fan like grew up in Lincoln, Nebraska. Yeah, and it's just like, bro, stop. But I do that with North Carolina fans. Yeah. And you ask them, okay, but tell me who was the center before Brad Doherty, Blackfoot, North Carolina?

If you can't tell me about the Tommy Lagarde, Mitch Cupchack era, if you can't go before that with Charlie Scott, like when North Carolina first got black players. Like, if you can't tell me about those Carolina teams, but if you don't know that prior to Jordan, their best player changed every year. That's how good Carolina was. That Billy Cunningham,

Billy, the kangaroo kid, Cunningham at North Carolina, was a problem, bruh. Before he came to the Sixers and just abused people, he was in the ACC. The ACC Tobacco Road was a problem. Maryland. Maryland with four, four. I didn't even think about that.

That the Tom McMillan, Lynn Elmore, John Lucas, Mo Howard, Brad Davis, Maryland teams. That's a different type of Terps. Brah!

Were they the Terps still? They were still the Terps, but they were, this was with Lefty-Driselle. This was before Gary Williams and Bob Wade and the Lenny Baist run, you had that run

of Lefty-Drazell saying, I want to become the UCLA of the East. And, hey, they played in the greatest college game ever played. Maryland, full circle, Maryland, NC State, David Skywalker Thompson, Tom Burleson. They played in a 104, 102, overtime game for the ACC title. And this was number one versus number three. and number three didn't get in the NCAA tournament

because at the time they only took one team from each conference. Stop. The number brough, which is why they literally, they were like, okay, we got to fix this. You got to fix it.

So we'll go to break. Again, we warned you, it's one-on-one. We never know what rabbit hole we're going to go down. More rabbit holes when we come back. You're listening to One-on-One with DP. Brought you by Canopy Street Market on 93-7-7.

We're all the way down the rabbit hole. There is one more read for the folks from Suizo. Yeah, but let me get that one out right now. Again, this one is sponsored by this one-on-one on this labor day, sponsored by the Shizzo construction where safety isn't just a policy. It's a promise. Shizzo is hiring skilled craftsmen, laborers, concrete workers, and steel erectors who value quality work in a team that has your best.

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and we talk about history, and we get into the ACC and old history names, players of some renown, and then football, football. Harrison, we keep talking about, I need to do it like a throwback show, like a really, like a throwback. A good history hour. A throwback show for all the old heads who have heroes that aren't talked about and are forgotten. There's some great players who just are never talked about.

I said a name during the break, Elroy Hirsch. And we were talking about the NFL and its origin. Now, here's what, but here's what the NFL says about teams of origin. In the original league, there were five teams from Ohio. The NFL originally had five teams from Ohio. So you had the Akron pros, since it's topical for Akron, and Zips coming to town, the Canton Bulldogs, of course, the famous Canton Bulldogs, the Cleveland Tigers.

The Cleveland Tigers, in one of the great underrated names in NFL history, the Columbus panhandlers, the Columbus panhandlers, and yet the fifth Ohio NFL franchise was the Dayton Triangles. The Dayton Triangle, sir. What is the logic behind Triangles?

The Dayton Triangle, sir. There were four teams from Illinois, the Chicago Tigers, the Decatur Staley's, the racing Cardinals, what are we doing? That was really a thing. That was really a thing.

I got to figure out about the triangles. And then there was another Rockford team. So, but then they, but the NFL says there were 12 founder members of the national football. Lee.

Akrington, Ashton Villa, I don't even know what this is. I can't even read this. Oh, that's the English football. Like, I was going to lose my mind there. Everybody told me that was the thing. But yeah,

they talk about the origin of the league. And then by age, what's the oldest franchise? And this is, and it's a tie. Now, the Bears will tell you they're the original franchise. Yeah. But actually, it was the Chicago Cardinals,

who were now the Arizona Carb. So technically, the Arizona Cardinals and Chicago Bears are older than the Green Bay Packers. That might be my 30th guess, is the Cardinals. Right. No one would think the Arizona Cardinals have the title. And in all of those years. Nothing. Bach here yet?

No. What are you doing with yourself? What are you doing? You're talking about, is that the epic, the most epic futility in the history of all of it? But we'll go through their history. the Green Bay Packers, the New York Giants, joined in 1925, the Detroit Lions in 1930, Washington and 1932, via Boston, via Boston, because they were the Boston Braves,

and then the Boston Redskins, Philadelphia Eagles, Pittsburgh Steelers, Los Angeles Rams. So they skipped straight from the Midwest all the way to Los Angeles. That's how it always goes. Bing! In pro sports, it just fly over state's Caribbean. 1937 and then it took them another nine years to put another team in in in in California San Francisco the 49ers of the Cleveland Browns joining

1946 the Indiana the Baltimore Colts in 1953 don't you dare don't you dare don't you dare say the Indianapolis coast no the Houston Texans in because they have the Titans so in 1960 the Dallas Texans Houston Oilers same time again, they were the Dallas Texans back then. The Denver Broncos in 1960, Buffalo Bills in 1960, emergence of the American Football League.

The Kansas City Chiefs Los Angeles Raiders, Oakland Raiders, the San Diego Chargers, all joined in that run, then greater expansion in the National Football League with the Minnesota Vikings in 1961, Atlanta Falcons,

and Miami Dolphins in the, Those, it supposed to be Vikings were that late being up in that region. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

Minneapolis just not fit the mold of like what all those other cities infrastructures were. I don't know. That's surprising. Well, you know, Ohio was being stopped. Yeah.

Ohio and Illinois were being stops. Let's, let's be honest. Let's be on it. The Falcons and dolphins came in at the same time. The Saints in 67. The Cincinnati Bengals in 68,

of course, the Brown family. as a thubbing their nose at the Cleveland Browns and saying, oh, we're going to get rid of the, the person who originated the Cleveland Browns. And so the Brown family went over to Cincinnati and said, we'll stand across the bridge and thumb our nose at you. There's a lot of peddiness, I feel like in those old days.

Didn't the Titans do something too with the colors of the Oilers when they had to trade their rights? Well, we don't want you to wear these colors. And then the expansion, the Buccaneers and Seahawks in 76, Jacksonville and Carolina in 95, the Browns, Ravens, and Texans in 2002 being the final one. But you just go, ooh, you think about the depth and range of this thing? man it it the age of it so they tell you in the beginnings that and again these are names that you don't even think about go back to 1892 1892 right you don't think of it going back that you know but pudge heffelfinger pudge heffle finger

and Ben Sport Donnelly each received a gigantic sum of cash to play for the Allegheny Athletic Association of the Western Pennsylvania Senior Independent Football Conference. We're going pro, boys. We're going pro. And I need to know what that significant amount of sum of cash is. Like in 1892, what is the significant amount of cash? Six heads of cattle. Like I'm going to, we're going to find that out. Like all the way down the rabbit.

I don't know. All the way. Harrison, all the way down the rabbit hole. Let's go. Of course, the text line will. What was the name of that conference again that they were joining?

The Western Pennsylvania senior independent football conference. Ah, yes. Western Pennsylvania senior independent football conference. Giving the steel and ironwork or something to do, bro. Yeah, you got to give them something to do so they don't, they go. don't go into crime. You got to do it. There were no national leagues or tournaments

for the professional game, despite lots of offers. An earlier national football league backed by what would become today's Major League Baseball League was unable to expand beyond Pennsylvania in the year 1902. Then the New York

City-based World Series of Pro Football tournament disbanded after two seasons because the lack of fan interest and other attempts to earlier either combine the existing circuits or create new ones. It didn't happen. One of the most prominent things that did work was the Ohio League against side of the Western League,

which boasted the services of legendary Native American athlete Jim Thorpe. Certainly the thing that caused it to move. The New York Pro Championship then developed and formed. Two of the best New York circuit teams, the Rochester Jeffersons and the Buffalo All-Stars, went on a barnstorming tour. This grew.

They went to Canton, Ohio, and took on Thorpe's Canton Bulldogs in 1917. Jefferson's owner, Leo Lyons, suggested to Thorpe that a league be formed. After that meeting, Lions believed the foundation of a league could be built to support that rivaled baseball. which at the time was the most popular popular sport in the country. His vision of the National League existing included existing clubs, but was cut short because of World War I,

which was further hampered by a flu up a pandemic in 1918, which forced most of the Ohio leagues to stop playing. Then they decided to get together. the Dayton Triangles and Michigan's Detroit Heralds, which would become the Detroit Lions, picked up many of the stars that remained stateside, again after this thing, the Great Lakes Navy Blue Jackets football team,

which included future Hall of Famers, Patty Driscoll, George Hallis, and Jimmy Consulman, all of whom were in the armed forces together, who had competed in college at the 1990 Rose Bowl. So they began to accumulate talent. The birth of the new league is listed as such. And this is fantastic.

August 20, 1920, at a HUPMobile, H-U-P-Mobile. I don't know where the H-Mobile is. Harrison, Google, Hupmobile. I'm talking about Hup caps. I don't know. So at a meeting at a Hupmobile dealership in Canton, Ohio, August 20, 19, 20, the league was formalized originally as the American Professional Football Conference. That was the original name.

Initially, only consisting of Ohio teams, although some of the teams declined participation. One month later, September 17th, the league was renamed the American. professional football association adding buffalo and rochester from the new york league and detroit um upmobile by the way it's just an old old car oh 1909 and two it says like 19 to 30 yeah yeah 19 30s somewhere in there it's a little misleading but it's just making cars is the hubmobile yep from your man bobby hub bounded hub motor car company get them bobby bobby The 11 founding teams initially struck an agreement over to keep teams from poaching other players and then declaring an end-of-season champion.

Thorpe while still playing for the Bulldogs was elected president. Only four of the founding teams finished the season, and the undefeated Akron pros claim the first national first championship. So if you want official, the Akron Pros were the first champion of the new league. Ohio deserves a lot more credit than I ever wanted to give a credit for for football. But we don't want to give. That's where the Ohio things come from. Well, Zips get a slice of the cake here.

Yeah, you know. We got real Ohio Zips coming in as here as well. The two charter members, the Chicago Cardinals now, the Arizona Cardinals, and the Decatur Staley's, now the Chicago Bears, are still in existence. The Green Bay franchise founded in 1919 as the oldest team not to change locations. but did not begin playing in the league until 1921. And this is where when you hear old clips of Howard Kosep, he always identified them as the New York football giants,

now known as just the Giants, joining the league in 1925, followed by the Portsmouth Spartans. Portsmouth Spartans in 1930, who relocated to Detroit, to become the line. Bro. Should have kept the name of Spartans.

So when you get to the NFL level, it's either animal or last name. Tried to Michigan State. Detroit. Michigan, you're getting your, you're getting your wires crossed. This is how all of this happens.

Like, we don't, we don't dive into the history of how names become. Yeah, that's a good point. But this is how you, you reconnect to all of this. We'll throw it a break.

Down the rabbit hole, we go, and where we will stay on the ticket. You're listening to one, with DP, brought you by Canopy Street Market on 937 the ticket and the ticketfm.com. Welcome back. We're going to go one-on-one with Austin Norman, who's just back from the Husker football presser. Austin Norman, thank you for spinning Labor Day. What did you find out? I found out what it feels like to be Jay Foreman. I don't sit in this chair ever at all.

And I see why Jay J.J. Likes. I feel like I'm in the middle of the table right now. Lookin' Bow. ways. Right. It's kind of, kind of funky. Right. The perfect view of the street kind of feels like I'm king of the court. So someday, someday to be J. for me.

King of the castle. Someday. Failing myself on a labor day now. What did we learn? We learned to Iron Bonner's out, ACL, wildly unfortunate. Matt Ruhl said, Carter Nelson, your time to step up. Probably the most interesting thing for my money was Matt Ruhle was pushing to get more, more carries, more reps for Mackay Nelson, Isaiah Mosy.

Dana Holgerson said, nope, Emma's feeling it. I trust him or rolling with him. Matt Rill says, you know what? All right, not the way I would have drawn it up. I'm going to get out of the way and let my coordinators do the coordinating. On that note, Matt Rulis asked about the defense. Did they play fast? Did they play aggressive?

Matt Rul said he thought the defense played hard, but that's not the same as playing fast. So defense needs to find a way to improve in that. And then the final comment, he was asked about his deal going on Pat McAfee every week. And he says, you know what? it's not about me, it's not about the attention, not about the lights. We know that's an SEC heavy platform. So to get not just the Big Ten out there, but to get Nebraska's name out there on that platform where there's not going to be a lot of opportunities for that, Matt Rule said he views that,

like, well, yeah, how could I say no to getting the Nebraska brand in front of the demographic that's going to be watching that show and those people who aren't going to talk as much about the Big Ten? Okay. I'm going to punch Ghost now. I'm literally going to punch ghosts. So you care more about the perception of the program and giving it to people who don't love you

than you do giving it to the people who love you and support you in full. I think what Matt Ruhl would say, without putting words in the coach's mouth, is that beyond the weekly radio appearance he'll do, the weekly press junkets, Matt Ruhl would say, you know, we're pushing out more social media content for those people. people. Matt Rule is considering that the access, I think, in some ways for Huskers and for

Husker fans. And he knows that the Husker fans are plenty of them that will watch that program as well. But I think it's two different avenues, right? Matt Rule seems like he's segmenting his media approach to here's what we're doing for our people back home. And it's not either or. I think Matt Ruhle would view it as, I'm doing this already for this group of Husker fans. Doing what? All the social media stuff. Where? I mean, they're pushing out through their own channels. I know where you're going with this. Yes, it'd be great to have Matt Rule here every week.

I don't know why he's not. Like, trust me, I'm on board of that. You live right across the street. What are we talking about? I'm on board with it. It's Labor Day. I can throw hands. But this is where it's- I can throw hands.

It's Labor Day. This is where it's, I think it's an and. Yeah. Not a replacement, I guess. No, I don't need, I don't care what he does anywhere else. Just do it here. Just do it here. We're available.

We're free. Don't have to spend gas money. Do you have Zoom? You can just get a cup of coffee and sit down. Start talking. Start talking about. Stop talking and leave. Hey, man.

High five. See you next week. High five. High five. There's an answer that always comes up when you say that you want a team to play fast. The rule is to know your responsibility. To know what you're doing. And Matt Ruhl was asked about the tempo as well.

Yeah. And when Cincinnati was going fast, Matt Ruhl said, oh, it's not some silver bowl. anything magical. It's as simple as know what you're doing, be where you're supposed to be. That's his cure for that. Yeah. I mean, if they know what they're doing, then I would have asked the next question. Does that mean that they didn't know what they were doing?

Which is not as slight, but if you're from a coaching perspective, if you tell me you want your players to play fast, you want them to know. That means you're coached and you know what you're doing in the expectation. Jay Foreman said earlier this morning that people are not understanding the lack of pressure on a running quarterback is literally the rules of engagement when defending a rushing quarterback, a quarterback that will pull it down and run, is to stay in your lane, be disciplined,

and let your run fit and support do what they're supposed to do. Which Nebraska also clearly struggled with in a lot of ways, right? If you're not supposed to get after a running quarterback, supposed to maintain discipline and anything you get in the backfield as gravy, well, then you've got to create that bubble, right? Maybe it's the pocket, maybe it's, you got that linebacker there whose job it is to keep his eyes on the quarterback. clearly Nebraska's defensive line didn't do that.

The linebackers weren't quite in sync with what I was supposed to be going on. That's why Sorosby ran for nearly a game high in yards. It is, again, the death you choose rather than the death you don't know. And again, the idea of keeping them off the scoreboard certainly played out. And that's a conversation we've had.

That's quite a punk of that. That's it. What old school this afternoon? Jay came in this morning, banged it out. What do you want to talk about this afternoon? We got all sorts of stuff on the docket. We'll look at how other Big Ten teams did. He spent a lot of time on Nebraska's data point.

How did Nebraska look relative to other teams in the league? We're the same and different. Nationally, right? A couple huge games throughout the weekend. I know Jay really wants to get into Alabama. Of course, there are some stuff posted about the discipline or lack thereof in Alabama's program. So Jay wants to dive into that. I know that'll be a big segment.

With Nebraska playing on Thursday, we didn't really have a full chance to dive into the Michael Parsons trait. Right. Just owe that it happened. But what's the context for it? What does it mean for Green Bay? What does it mean for Dallas? We'll do some of that. And see where that takes us leading into NFL week one

and college football full week two. Thursday night in Philadelphia. Woo. A Parsonsless Cowboy team. Oh, boy. Am I excited and thrilled about that? Austin, thank you, kind sir. Anytime.

We'll toward the break. Another hour of one-on-one coming up.