1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - Top 5 QBs in Nebraskas history: May 18th, 10:25am

Episode Date: May 18, 2022

Chris Raff sticks aroundTommie Frazier is the clear number 1, but who are the next 4?Steve Warren? Turner Gill? Scott Frost? Eric Crouch?Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Op...t-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to one-on-one with DP. Brought to you by Beatrice Bakery. On 93-7 The Ticket and the Ticketfm.com. Welcome back. One-on-one on a Wednesday. Thank you guys for hanging out. 424-6-4-5-6-85. You guys were right on the text lines.
Starting point is 00:00:20 So to be clear, and I want to thank Chris Rapp for doing this. And we'll bring him back in. But I want to remember the reason why I wanted to have the discussion is just to re-remember. It's how you're right. remember it is one way. Then going back and revisiting allows you with new eyes to go through this thing, right? That yes, Eric Crouch is a high-sum trophy. It's a high-sum trophy win. But to a person, so far, I haven't had anybody tell me that Eric Crouch was a better quarterback than Tommy Fraser. And if you can say that, well, Crouch won the Heisman. Tommy didn't win the Heisman, but Tommy was a better
Starting point is 00:00:59 quarterback. Then you can also say that there are other quarterbacks who are better than Eric Crouch, even though they did not win a Heisman trophy. You can't have it both ways. How do you want it? Your definition is it winning national championships? Is it winning the player of the year award for that year? Being the best player of that year doesn't mean that you were the best player to play
Starting point is 00:01:23 that position ever at Nebraska. I mean, there are people that will have the discussion and say, well, geez, you know, Mike Rozier won the Heisman. but was he a more, a better talent than Lawrence Phillips? Right? So the conversation needs to be had.
Starting point is 00:01:41 That's why we want to do it. Raff, let me bring you back in. So am I wrong in saying that just because you won the Heisman doesn't mean you were the best of that position forever and eternity? Yeah, I think you're correct. The way you explained it, I think it's perfect.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I mean, like, Mike Rose's your Heisman trophy winner, amazing eye back, but you probably ask 85, 90% of the people out there, Lawrence Phillips was probably the best ibacked at Nebraska, but you're also going to have people there. I mean, this is why it's an amazing conversation because you're going to have people out there to say, Amon Green was the best eyeback ever in Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:02:21 So that's what makes sports talk awesome because, you know, everybody has their opinions, and that's what's... So, yeah. Tomorrow, tomorrow we'll be running back. We're going to go through running backs, and it'll be a different conversation with fullbacks, and it'll be a different conversation with receivers or defensive linemen, members of the pipeline, and how you would break this down.
Starting point is 00:02:44 This summer for me is going to be a summer of educating and re-educating myself on the history of Nebraska athletics, specifically football, so that you can go through and learn more about it. It revisits the successful, the high points, how they got there, they got there, who took them there, who kept them there, and then who ultimately removed them from that space. You have to go through and look at each of these things. And anybody that tells me, you look at Steve Taylor playing quarterback, and you look at Eric Crouch playing quarterback, Crouch was a football player playing quarterback.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Steve Taylor was an athlete playing quarterback. They approached it differently, had different successes. but Rico, let me ask you. Hello. Stats. Steve Taylor. What do you have? Give me one second.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I'm marking this so I know exactly who is who. I got yelled at for stats before. Well, but, but it's just, it's just, look, facts are facts. And then your opinion on the facts is something entirely different. So Steve Taylor, um, his totals. Do you want totals? Yes. Okay, totals.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Uh, rushing. He finished his career with 2,1,125 yards, 32, touchdowns. Passing-wise, he finished with 2,815 on 45% 30 touchdowns, 24 picks. Okay. That's Steve Taylor.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Right. In his three seasons as a starter, one season coming in a little bit here and there. Got it. Eric Crouch, rushing-wise, finished his career, 3,434 rushing yards, and 59 touchdowns. Passing-wise, 4,481 on 51% passing, 29 touchdowns, 25 picks. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:34 So they're close. Extremely close. He has more passing yards because that's AD is on the taxis. He says, don't forget. Don't sleep on Keith and McCann. We haven't gotten there yet. We haven't got there, AD.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Come on now. Chill. We haven't gotten there yet. And I'm going to call St. Taylor and ask him his opinion. Like, where would he put himself? Of course, he might say number one. but that I wouldn't be surprised by that either. But you know, that's what makes Steve so great, though, I think,
Starting point is 00:05:06 and I think that's what makes the great quarterbacks that great is they are, and they are to them, they are the number one, and that's what that makes them those alpha dogs. Steve's going to tell you, you know, he was one of the best in Nebraska history, and that's that attitude you got to come in with it. You have that attitude that you're the best, you know, that's something in, you need to be to be a successful quarterback in Nebraska, you've got to have that mentality.
Starting point is 00:05:34 So we have some more stats. Hold on. Let me say, Mike, we're going to get to you, we were going to ask you to call at right in the last segment. So we want to take your call at the last segment. So if you don't mind, call back right at like 10.50. Something like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And we'll take you in the last segment. I have some more passing stats for between Taylor and Crouch. So Steve Taylor can. attempted 202 less pass attempts. And if you're going with yards per average and air yards per average, Steve Taylor yards per average seven, air yards per average 5.8. Eric Crouch, 7.4 per average, 6.5 air yards per average. So extremely close.
Starting point is 00:06:16 The only difference is Steve Taylor had 202 less attempts and 2,000 yards less about. So you go, you know, 2002. two more attempts, you get 1,000 yards, 2,000 yards in there. Like, that's completely doable. Like, again, the air yards and the yard privage are extremely similar. It's not easy. And he actually had one more passing touchdown and one less interception on 202 last attempts.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Here's one for you. Here's one for you. Raff. You ready for this? I'm ready. All right. So this quarterback took over in 1989 through for a thousand yards, through for more than 1,000 yards.
Starting point is 00:06:58 It accounted for 31 touchdowns, and the Huskers went 10 and 2 and went to the Fiesta Bowl. Who am I talking about? I'm going to go with Jerry Godelsky. You are correct, sir. So, again, as we dance through this thing, the program and the culture operated in such a unique and high-level space, that 9 and 10 wins was the norm. It was the norm.
Starting point is 00:07:25 even before, like, you get into the space. Jerry had a great year that year, too. That's probably one of the bigger regrets in Nebraska history, probably is wishing that he would have had one more year. Yeah. He played great that one year. He was the starter. After that, you know, AD's boy, Keith and McCant.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Keith and McCant, number 10. 1990, rushed for over 600, passed for over 1,400, 13 touchdowns. athletically unique, fair? Correct. He was probably, I'd probably put him up there as one of the top passing quarterbacks at Nebraska. I mean, he was a little bit different than what we had been, the prior years,
Starting point is 00:08:13 we were more run, more run, more option. That year it seemed like he was more, he was more of a drop-back passer than what we had seen. Him and Steve were a lot of like throwing the ball, I guess. actually they kind of have the same
Starting point is 00:08:27 mechanics too. Great trivia question that I got stumped on a couple of months ago and I can ask it to everybody and don't cheat. Don't cheat people. Rico, let me know if you have an answer.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Who was the last starting quarterback before Tommy Frazier? I have the answer because I've been looking all these up because you guys are going 1980s and I'm like, I don't know I don't know these names. I know Turner Gill is the coach at Buffalo and Kansas.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And I've heard of some of these other guys, but no, I have the answer, but it's cheating. So I won't say. Yeah, Ralph, come on, brother. I'll tell you one thing about this quarterback that we're talking about. Uh-huh. He came in highly, highly, highly recruited. When we got home, we thought, now this is what we need. I can, he wore number one.
Starting point is 00:09:19 He, and he was on, he was on a trajectory to be one of the all-time greats, but I think he had his shoulder and that that kind of hampered him so but anybody answered that trivia question yet or let riko answer it so you have to answer it because i also have a fun stat on it go ahead ricko uh the quarterback that we are all wondering is mike grant yes and uh to open up the 1990 season he threw for 86 yards in a 13-0 win over baler didn't throw much ran it ran it quite a bit ran it quite a bit And Raff, we were laughing during the break because you can go through the historic annals of Nebraska football quarterback play. And they'll go through each year, right? And then they just get to like 94, 95.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And they just go, you guys know who was there. So I'm looking through the Lincoln Journal stars. Like, you know, they have something from before Adrian took over as a starter. And it's just all the quarterbacks that started since 1980. It gets to 1990 and 1992 Mike Grant, and then it just skips 94-95, 93-94-95, and then goes 96-97, Scott Frost. It's like, yeah, you know who it was. Yeah, you know it was. We don't need to put a picture.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Well, was there anybody between Tommy and Crouch who were missing? Well, actually, going back for a second, there actually was going to possibly. be a quarterback before Tommy. A lot of people, some know, but Tony Beeland, that's in Springball or in Fall Ball had actually ascended to the number one spot, and then he broke his collarbone. How many times did that, didn't that happen, like,
Starting point is 00:11:11 every year in Nebraska for almost 15 years, where a defense, a guy who was a quarterback in high school, you can bring up Mickey Joseph, you can bring up Damon Bennett. bring up a lot of players who ended up starring on defense who were actual high school quarterbacks and had to move out. Yeah. There had been some.
Starting point is 00:11:34 We had Tony. Oh, man. Usually they always kind of went over to that safety position. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. It just seems, Raf, it just seems, like I said, the beauty of this thing was to regenerate thought
Starting point is 00:11:52 and memory on. on it. And the conversations being had, I mean, guys like Jamal Lord, for me, got lost. Joe Daly got lost, right? I mean, in that. Joe just got caught. Joe just got in transition. He was a, he was recruited for the Frank Solich option, play, action offense. And the next, you know, he's running pro style, five wide, you know, and he just, he just kind of got caught in the transition because I think he would have, under Solich, I think he would have been. been probably right up there.
Starting point is 00:12:25 You know, you could probably put them in the top 10. I would have liked to have seen him another year in Solich's offense, that's for sure. Before we close out the segment again, Mike, we'll get to you on the Honolinkin hotline coming up next. But then we'll close it out with this. Big 12, offensive player of the year, over 5,800 yards passing. Oh, yay, Super Bowl coach. that that's where we'll finish up as you as you go through
Starting point is 00:12:58 Nebraska's quarterbacking history it's far more glamorous in the space in the vacuum of college football but it loses some of the lustre when it comes to advancing past the NFL that's a conversation for another time and another day but this was this was educational for me and this is why I want to have these conversations
Starting point is 00:13:17 Ralph man appreciate your brother What are you doing tonight? What are you guys doing? Tonight, we have got a really good show lined up. We've got Miss Burley Goins. She's the head of the Boys and Girls Club here in Lincoln. Wonderful. And then we're going to have Kenny Cheat him on.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And he played receiver for the Huskers back in the, oh, mid to late 90s. So we'll have both of them on the riffing with Raf and AD tonight. So we're looking forward to that, as always. Appreciate your brother. you do each night and every night, every day. Yeah, AD just said Cluster Johnson was also my highest quarterback that ended up getting moved. That's just college football, specifically Nebraska, pretty exceptional in moving those folks around.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Raff, appreciate you, brother, do what you do. I'll listen to you at checking the night. Awesome. Thank you. I have good day, you guys. You can catch them. 7 to 9 o'clock Wednesday nights with Aaron Davis. Risson with Raff and Davis here on 93-7.
Starting point is 00:14:15 The ticket we go to break. Mike, we'll get to you, brother. We appreciate you. hanging on. We'll close out one-on-one and hand it over to Roshan in the captain's show down at Wingstop. Watch live on Facebook, YouTube, or Twitch. You're listening to One-on-One with DP on 937 The Ticket and The Ticketfm.com.

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