1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - Top 5 QBs in Nebraskas history: May 18th, 10:25am
Episode Date: May 18, 2022Chris Raff sticks aroundTommie Frazier is the clear number 1, but who are the next 4?Steve Warren? Turner Gill? Scott Frost? Eric Crouch?Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Op...t-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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You guys were right on the text lines.
So to be clear, and I want to thank Chris Rapp for doing this.
And we'll bring him back in.
But I want to remember the reason why I wanted to have the discussion is just to re-remember.
It's how you're right.
remember it is one way. Then going back and revisiting allows you with new eyes to go through this thing,
right? That yes, Eric Crouch is a high-sum trophy. It's a high-sum trophy win. But to a person,
so far, I haven't had anybody tell me that Eric Crouch was a better quarterback than Tommy Fraser.
And if you can say that, well, Crouch won the Heisman. Tommy didn't win the Heisman, but Tommy was a better
quarterback.
Then you can also say that there are other quarterbacks who are better than Eric Crouch,
even though they did not win a Heisman trophy.
You can't have it both ways.
How do you want it?
Your definition is it winning national championships?
Is it winning the player of the year award for that year?
Being the best player of that year doesn't mean that you were the best player to play
that position ever at Nebraska.
I mean, there are people that will have the discussion and say, well, geez, you know,
Mike Rozier won the Heisman.
but was he a more,
a better talent than
Lawrence Phillips?
Right?
So the conversation needs to be had.
That's why we want to do it.
Raff, let me bring you back in.
So am I wrong in saying that
just because you won the Heisman
doesn't mean you were the best of that position
forever and eternity?
Yeah, I think you're correct.
The way you explained it, I think it's perfect.
I mean, like, Mike Rose's your
Heisman trophy winner, amazing eye back,
but you probably ask 85, 90% of the people out there,
Lawrence Phillips was probably the best ibacked at Nebraska,
but you're also going to have people there.
I mean, this is why it's an amazing conversation
because you're going to have people out there to say,
Amon Green was the best eyeback ever in Nebraska.
So that's what makes sports talk awesome
because, you know, everybody has their opinions,
and that's what's...
So, yeah.
Tomorrow, tomorrow we'll be running back.
We're going to go through running backs, and it'll be a different conversation with fullbacks,
and it'll be a different conversation with receivers or defensive linemen, members of the pipeline,
and how you would break this down.
This summer for me is going to be a summer of educating and re-educating myself on the history of Nebraska athletics,
specifically football, so that you can go through and learn more about it.
It revisits the successful, the high points, how they got there,
they got there, who took them there, who kept them there, and then who ultimately
removed them from that space.
You have to go through and look at each of these things.
And anybody that tells me, you look at Steve Taylor playing quarterback, and you look
at Eric Crouch playing quarterback, Crouch was a football player playing quarterback.
Steve Taylor was an athlete playing quarterback.
They approached it differently, had different successes.
but Rico, let me ask you.
Hello.
Stats.
Steve Taylor.
What do you have?
Give me one second.
I'm marking this so I know exactly who is who.
I got yelled at for stats before.
Well, but, but it's just, it's just, look, facts are facts.
And then your opinion on the facts is something entirely different.
So Steve Taylor, um, his totals.
Do you want totals?
Yes.
Okay, totals.
Uh, rushing.
He finished his career with 2,1,125 yards, 32,
touchdowns.
Passing-wise, he finished with
2,815 on
45%
30 touchdowns, 24 picks.
Okay. That's Steve Taylor.
Right. In his three seasons as a starter,
one season coming in a little bit here and there.
Got it. Eric Crouch,
rushing-wise, finished his career,
3,434 rushing yards, and 59 touchdowns.
Passing-wise,
4,481 on 51% passing, 29 touchdowns, 25 picks.
Right.
So they're close.
Extremely close.
He has more passing yards because that's
AD is on the taxis.
He says, don't forget.
Don't sleep on Keith and McCann.
We haven't gotten there yet.
We haven't got there, AD.
Come on now.
Chill.
We haven't gotten there yet.
And I'm going to call St. Taylor and ask him his opinion.
Like, where would he put himself?
Of course, he might say number one.
but that I wouldn't be surprised by that either.
But you know, that's what makes Steve so great, though, I think,
and I think that's what makes the great quarterbacks that great is they are,
and they are to them, they are the number one,
and that's what that makes them those alpha dogs.
Steve's going to tell you, you know, he was one of the best in Nebraska history,
and that's that attitude you got to come in with it.
You have that attitude that you're the best, you know, that's something in,
you need to be to be a successful quarterback in Nebraska,
you've got to have that mentality.
So we have some more stats.
Hold on.
Let me say, Mike, we're going to get to you,
we were going to ask you to call at right in the last segment.
So we want to take your call at the last segment.
So if you don't mind, call back right at like 10.50.
Something like that.
Right.
And we'll take you in the last segment.
I have some more passing stats for between Taylor and Crouch.
So Steve Taylor can.
attempted 202 less pass attempts.
And if you're going with yards per average and air yards per average,
Steve Taylor yards per average seven, air yards per average 5.8.
Eric Crouch, 7.4 per average, 6.5 air yards per average.
So extremely close.
The only difference is Steve Taylor had 202 less attempts and 2,000 yards less about.
So you go, you know, 2002.
two more attempts, you get 1,000 yards, 2,000 yards in there.
Like, that's completely doable.
Like, again, the air yards and the yard privage are extremely similar.
It's not easy.
And he actually had one more passing touchdown and one less interception on 202 last
attempts.
Here's one for you.
Here's one for you.
Raff.
You ready for this?
I'm ready.
All right.
So this quarterback took over in 1989 through for a thousand yards, through for more
than 1,000 yards.
It accounted for 31 touchdowns, and the Huskers went 10 and 2 and went to the Fiesta Bowl.
Who am I talking about?
I'm going to go with Jerry Godelsky.
You are correct, sir.
So, again, as we dance through this thing,
the program and the culture operated in such a unique and high-level space,
that 9 and 10 wins was the norm.
It was the norm.
even before, like, you get into the space.
Jerry had a great year that year, too.
That's probably one of the bigger regrets in Nebraska history,
probably is wishing that he would have had one more year.
Yeah.
He played great that one year.
He was the starter.
After that, you know, AD's boy, Keith and McCant.
Keith and McCant, number 10.
1990, rushed for over 600, passed for over 1,400, 13 touchdowns.
athletically unique, fair?
Correct.
He was probably,
I'd probably put him up there as one of the top passing quarterbacks at Nebraska.
I mean, he was a little bit different than what we had been,
the prior years,
we were more run,
more run,
more option.
That year it seemed like he was more,
he was more of a drop-back passer than what we had seen.
Him and Steve were a lot of like throwing the ball,
I guess.
actually they kind of have the same
mechanics too.
Great trivia question
that I got stumped on
a couple of months ago
and I can ask it to everybody
and don't cheat.
Don't cheat people.
Rico, let me know if you have an answer.
Who was the last starting quarterback
before Tommy Frazier?
I have the answer because I've been looking
all these up because you guys
are going 1980s and I'm like, I don't know
I don't know these names.
I know Turner Gill is the coach at Buffalo
and Kansas.
And I've heard of some of these other guys, but no, I have the answer, but it's cheating.
So I won't say.
Yeah, Ralph, come on, brother.
I'll tell you one thing about this quarterback that we're talking about.
Uh-huh.
He came in highly, highly, highly recruited.
When we got home, we thought, now this is what we need.
I can, he wore number one.
He, and he was on, he was on a trajectory to be one of the all-time greats, but I think he had
his shoulder and that that kind of hampered him so but anybody answered that trivia question yet
or let riko answer it so you have to answer it because i also have a fun stat on it go ahead ricko uh the
quarterback that we are all wondering is mike grant yes and uh to open up the 1990 season he threw for
86 yards in a 13-0 win over baler didn't throw much ran it ran it quite a bit ran it quite a bit
And Raff, we were laughing during the break because you can go through the historic annals of Nebraska football quarterback play.
And they'll go through each year, right?
And then they just get to like 94, 95.
And they just go, you guys know who was there.
So I'm looking through the Lincoln Journal stars.
Like, you know, they have something from before Adrian took over as a starter.
And it's just all the quarterbacks that started since 1980.
It gets to 1990 and 1992 Mike Grant, and then it just skips 94-95, 93-94-95, and then goes 96-97, Scott Frost.
It's like, yeah, you know who it was.
Yeah, you know it was.
We don't need to put a picture.
Well, was there anybody between Tommy and Crouch who were missing?
Well, actually, going back for a second, there actually was going to possibly.
be a quarterback before Tommy.
A lot of people, some know, but Tony Beeland,
that's in Springball or in Fall Ball
had actually ascended to the number one spot,
and then he broke his collarbone.
How many times did that, didn't that happen, like,
every year in Nebraska for almost 15 years,
where a defense, a guy who was a quarterback in high school,
you can bring up Mickey Joseph,
you can bring up Damon Bennett.
bring up a lot of players who ended up starring on defense who were actual high school
quarterbacks and had to move out.
Yeah.
There had been some.
We had Tony.
Oh, man.
Usually they always kind of went over to that safety position.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It just seems,
Raf, it just seems, like I said, the beauty of this thing was to regenerate thought
and memory on.
on it. And the conversations being had, I mean, guys like Jamal Lord, for me, got lost.
Joe Daly got lost, right? I mean, in that.
Joe just got caught. Joe just got in transition. He was a, he was recruited for the Frank
Solich option, play, action offense. And the next, you know, he's running pro style, five
wide, you know, and he just, he just kind of got caught in the transition because I think he would
have, under Solich, I think he would have been.
been probably right up there.
You know, you could probably put them in the top 10.
I would have liked to have seen him another year in Solich's offense, that's for sure.
Before we close out the segment again, Mike, we'll get to you on the Honolinkin hotline coming up next.
But then we'll close it out with this.
Big 12, offensive player of the year, over 5,800 yards passing.
Oh, yay, Super Bowl coach.
that that's where we'll finish up
as you as you go through
Nebraska's quarterbacking history
it's far more glamorous in the space
in the vacuum of college football
but it loses some of the lustre when it comes
to advancing past the NFL
that's a conversation for another time and another day
but this was this was educational for me
and this is why I want to have these conversations
Ralph man appreciate your brother
What are you doing tonight?
What are you guys doing?
Tonight, we have got a really good show lined up.
We've got Miss Burley Goins.
She's the head of the Boys and Girls Club here in Lincoln.
Wonderful.
And then we're going to have Kenny Cheat him on.
And he played receiver for the Huskers back in the, oh, mid to late 90s.
So we'll have both of them on the riffing with Raf and AD tonight.
So we're looking forward to that, as always.
Appreciate your brother.
you do each night and every night, every day.
Yeah, AD just said Cluster Johnson was also my highest quarterback that ended up getting moved.
That's just college football, specifically Nebraska, pretty exceptional in moving those
folks around.
Raff, appreciate you, brother, do what you do.
I'll listen to you at checking the night.
Awesome.
Thank you.
I have good day, you guys.
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Mike, we'll get to you, brother.
We appreciate you.
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