1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - Winning Time show on the Lakers on HBO: May 2nd, 10:25am

Episode Date: May 2, 2022

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You're listening to One-on-One with D.P. Brought to you by Beatrice Bakery. On 93-7 The Ticket and The Ticketfm.com. I mean, am I wrong? Welcome back, one-on-one on a Monday. It's raining out. It's boring just a minute ago, so I don't know what it's doing now. I look forward.

I can't even finish that sentence. I can't even finish that sentence. Come on. I can't. I can't. I can't do it. I believe in you. What I miss is,

being able because we're fully contained like we in the studio we can't see anything no so no window right so we have to go on break and go down the hallway and look out the window to see what's happening and even then we look out the window it's got the

the thing on it right and it hurts my eyes to look through for too long right so I just step into my office which that's my office I don't care what anybody says that's my office right step into my office and look out the windows yeah it's just it's just different it's the front door there also yes but it's my office right and other people just walk in yeah people just yeah people just

walk through my office all the time but for those people who work in in like offices where you can see the weather like this is not the best day for it but even then you still want to be able to see what's going on and so i miss some of that kind of like watching the rain yeah i mean you know if you're home but if you're working you know it's different it's a little different um And again, thank you folks. I want to thank John Squire for giving us some time and keeping us connected to the program to a little bit of inside. And again, not knowing that they're getting out late at night and having to adjust the schedules. The worst.

And then I do want to remind folks that, yeah, we're streaming live on Twitter now. How about that? I love Twitter. How about that? So being able to put my face on Twitter more than a number. it already is on Twitter. Yeah. You know, I love that.

Like, you're just going to keep posting, like, your... I just, I just quote tweet it every time. As soon as the happy hour goes live on Twitter for the first time at two, you're going to know. Yeah. I just need to clip from The Jerk with Steve Warren goes. Things are starting to happen. This is when things are starting to happen.

I'm just going to be waving for the entire first, like, five minutes. I'm going to let Nick go on a rant. I don't know if he has to happen. has one, but I'm going to let him go on a race. I can just wave for five minutes. Just hi everybody. Hi, Twitter. I'm here.

Hi. Hello. Youhoo. Fully Forrest Gump. Yeah. With the wave. Lieutenant Danian. Lieutenant Dan.

Yeah. So I, I've confessed that I'm in love with the winning time. Lakers, Lakers show. on HBO. You know who isn't in love with it. Jerry West hates it. Which based on the little that I saw Jerry West and him say, that is not me.

I'm like, you suing them because of this depiction. Seems like this is you. This is exactly. Just saying, Jerry. This is exactly you. So they've reached the point. So, of course, this is just the journey of magic joining the Lakers being drafted. his battle with Kareem to figure out what their relationship is going to be

his battle with himself and trying to figure out who he was going to be the bus family young Jeannie Bus who the best way to describe Jeannie Bus in real life is badass yeah total badass yeah but they've got young Jeannie with Jerry Buss, and they're showing all of his flaws and cracks, and then Sally Field as Mama Bus, so kind of the matriarch of all of this and keeping things in order, and then her issues as well, and then the battle between Jack McKinney, Pat Riley, who was sitting next to Chick-Hern as a broadcaster when the season started. And then his relationship with Chick Hearn, which wasn't good. Was it?

No, it was not good. And then Pat and Paul Westhead, their battles. Oh, Paul. Conflicts of, you know. And then the awful story that, again, he's, they battled. Like, they wanted Tarkhanian. They didn't want Westhead. They didn't want McKinney.

They wanted Tarkhanian. And then they went to Vegas and tried to get Tarkhanian. Kenney from UNLV. This is circa 1980, even before the run, run. And the mob was like, nope, can't have him. He's ours. Oh, yeah.

Like, what? That's what I said. Pretty fascinating. And then just the inner workings of... The mob said no touching. No touching. And then McKinney gets the head coaching job, finally begins to turn it around,

a bike accident with a brain injury. So Westhead has to step up. Westhead is a great X and O guy, but he's not a great people person. So Pat Riley is behind the scenes pushing the buttons for Westhead to kind of keep him. So it's kind of a two-man deal. And then they reached the point last night where McKinney thinks he's ready to return to the Lakers. But Westhead and Riley want the job. and bus has to make a decision on who's going to take them into the playoffs it's pretty

amazing stuff like all the and again based on the book but not based on entire real life but a lot of it is real um the battle spencer haywood and his battle with cocaine like that has now entered the chat the foundation for the book is real life you can track and then you started putting up walls and and an open concept living your room kitchen and you were just like, I think you need a, I think you need a wall to hold up the ceiling there. And you're like, nah, we'll put a pillar. Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff in it that you know was true because you can track it. They go to different games and different series and you can go back and track those. And they did a really good, first of all, he did an exceptional

job of casting and finding someone who, like how do you find somebody, Kareem, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar walking around. It looks like he could be young Kare. They found, they found a guy. They had to find young magic. They had to find Norm Nixon. And they figured out the best way to find a Norm Nixon is to hire Norm Nixon Jr. Boom. Problems up. What wait to go through and do all the pieces. And so really good character actors, John C. Riley as Jerry Buss was just fantastic. Sally Field is just brilliant. The young lady who plays Jeannie Buss. The guy that they got to play Larry Bird. They got to play Julius Irving. The guy that they got to play Larry Bird is fantastic.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they portrayed the bird magic relationship is not good. I thought it was. Well, that's what I thought until you get to the book. And Bird was not having it. Like Bird. Maybe it wasn't good at first. And then it evolved. Which actually would make sense. So, and then last night Spencer Haywood was the

feature because one coach liked him, one coach didn't. He was brought in. He's a unique guy. And people forget that the bulk of business being done today is based on Spencer Haywood lawsuit, Supreme Court lawsuit against the NBA because they did not allow him in because he was too young. So he declared when he was after his second year of college and they were like, nope, You got a, your class has to graduate, and he took him a court.

And one, which allowed, and then you points out that if Spencer Haywood doesn't do what he did in the 70s, there's no Kobe. There's no magic. Magic would have had to stay at Michigan State for two more years. Bird would, yeah. Bird would have been, he was a senior. No, Burr was a junior. Oh, he was just a year older than? So Michael Jordan would have to stay another year.

So there's a lot of the stuff that was in play. There's a lot of people that wouldn't. After the get, like, oh man, J.R. Smith would have to go to college. All those people, all those people like he is now. Sad. Like he is now. Yeah, it would have been golfing.

Well, but this is the thing. If Spencer Haywood doesn't go through that, none of the players, because then they would consider hardship. If Spencer Haywood doesn't do that, where does LeBron go to college? Right. Ohio State.

He says Duke. He said he would go to Duke, but he always supports Ohio State. So that is, that is a good question. Like, It's a good question. Maybe you and Nick can dive into that pool later. But think about it.

That nobody before Spencer Haywood... Spencer Haywood doesn't sue the NBA. How many NBA players... I mean, we're not going to miss out on them, but we're going to miss their first couple of years. Mello has to stay at Syracuse. So Syracuse has four national championships. I'm sure many people would have liked that.

Yeah, I mean, but to think about it, but that's kind of like... And none of the stuff that you're dealing with... Villanova's fine. Like Bryce McGowan's would definitely be coming back for the next three years. That'd be nice. But that's, I mean, we miss. And then, of course, it tells you, you remember. Kentucky's not Kentucky.

Right. You can't. You couldn't do the one of done. Hold on. You couldn't do the one and done. Although Kentucky would win every, but they would win every national title. They would win every national title because you would have all those players for four years. I'm trying to think of who would all be in college at the same time now.

Right. So you think of that that run that Kentucky had, they all would have been. Anthony Davis, John Wall. Yeah, all of them together. David Booker, Catavius Caldwell Pope, Malik. Oh, my, oh, wow. College basketball would be fun. Right?

Like you just built. Like it is fun, but this would be fun. Well, because those small schools would have so much talent. Uh-huh. Because you think you can't go to the big schools. You couldn't go and get in and all of it would be in play. So the game's small. change. The transfer portal would be very important. Right. Like you think about that. How

how crazy that would be. How crazy that would be. But without Spencer Heywood, none of this stuff is in play. I'm kind of mad. And and and to, damn you Spencer. Well, no, but you have to thank him because you remember Spencer was went to the Olympics as a 19 year old and was the best player on the team. Was that before professionals could play? Yes. Yeah. Right. So he went. in at 19. It was the best player. Like he was like, he tells a story that he, uh, man, I did this interview with him years ago. And he said he only went to the Olympic trial so he could get like shoes and really cool stuff and come back home to Detroit and go, oh man. Look what I got. Look what I got. TV USA. Right. Like I got cut from the Olympic team.

And then he got there and he was like, oh, he got there and he averaged like 30 and 19. I'm better than you. Right. He was the best player. He, average like 30 points and was the MVP and all those things. And he goes, wow. So then he was like, well, I do. And here's the thing about all of this stuff and how, well, they called it hardship cases. Because of the financial hardship that these players were in. Like you're keeping me from going and making money for my family because I'm not old.

I'm not old enough to go to war and to vote, but I'm not old enough to make money for. for my family. So when people say they're dirt poor, dirt poor, well, imagine what Spencer Haywell was going through where his mom made, you ready for this, $2 a day picking cotton. $2 a day. And he had an opportunity to go pro and make some money. And they said no. And they were like, no.

And he was like, bro, I need to make money. Like you're talking about there are people who are poor and then there's dirt poor. They were dirt poor. And so sports was allowing people to get out of the worst circumstances. Right? The worst circumstances in space, right? You go, wow, okay, let's check. And for every player.

So Kareem Abduljabbar, they all thanked Spencer Haywood. Like back then, they thanked him because it was, wow. because imagine if Cream could have left early from UCLA or Walton. There's no reason for them to stay. Would UCLA have been UCLA? Yes, they still would have been because, you know. Oh, no, yeah, they were doing it the same way. They were doing that before.

But also you had people leaving early. Right. But if you had people leaving early, you still would have, you know, imagine a transfer portal where Swin Nader, who never played at UCLA, goes on and has a, you know, double-digit career in the NBA. B.A. True. Hmm.

Like, that's what it was. Like, once you committed to a school, you committed to the school. It was great for the school and it was great for the fan base, but wasn't great for the young man whose mom is sitting at home in Mississippi making $2 a day. I've got to wait. Right? And you got to wait. So he went, thank goodness for the ABA.

He went to the ABA and did his thing. And again, I think his rookie year in the ABA, he asked. average 30 points 19 rebound. Sheesh. As a teenager. That's impressive. Right? And the ABA did that for folks. So Moses Malone, there were a ton of folks who went through the ABA instead of the NBA.

That's where Moses started in the ABA. Like, it was the thing. So, yeah, when you talk about sports, just don't forget the Spencer Haywood to the world. Because he went through a lot. married to Imman, the model. You don't know I'm on.

Oh. So imagine back in the day. She was Tyra Banks before Tyra Banks. Oh, okay. We like Tyra Banks. Well, she was that. And when he was with the Knicks

and he's with Iman as his wife, that's the power couple of all power couples in New York City. But the life Carter, LA caught up with it.

Like that LA life got to him. Damn you, City of Angels. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot of that stuff. But if you have time and you want to go and watch a really good sports docu-series or whatever you want to call it, pretty good stuff. Pretty good stuff from top of the end. And they just went through.

They just built up to him Jerry Bus having to decide whether Jack McKinney was going to get his job back. or whether West had and Riley were going to get theirs. Jerry West, ultimately it was going to come down to Jerry West and his recommendation. So Wes was a consultant, and West wouldn't make the conflict. He's like, I can't do, I won't do it. And as the story is told, Jerry Busk goes to visit McKinney at his house and caught McKinney during one of his bad moments, said McKinney didn't recognize it.

And so he was like, oh, I'm going to get in a car and go tell Westhead and Riley that they're going to have to. Dang. Yeah, there's some great stories behind. That sucks. There's some great stories. And it goes through the, yeah, everybody wanted Lakers Celtics so they could have Magic versus Bird. Of course. But Dr. Jay and Moses alone said, nope.

Not so fast. Not so fast. Actually, it wasn't Moses. It was not so fast my friend. This was Dawkins and Jim Chones and Caldwell Jones. So. You got to hold the pen. And Julius Irving.

And they picked a really good Julius Ervin. Did they? They did. They did. And they picked some really good clips to reenact. I love that they actually reenact the basketball clips with these people. Or at least they try to. They try to.

Although. Some of the feats of athleticism. Oh, there's no way. You can't. There's no way. Unless you, the little tykes room. There's no way. But they ended last night with, again, they're heading into the Sixers Series.

And before the Sixers Series, Magic is working on his own baby, Baby Sky Hook. And Magic, uh, Kareem catches him. And he goes, what are you doing? And he goes, I'm just trying to work on, you know, he goes, I'm going to end up posted up at Mo Cheeks here. So I'm going to work on my baby hook. And Kareem gives him. a lecture on the skyhook.

And it might have been my favorite thing over the entire weekend. I'll see if I can find it. Okay. It's pretty amazing. Yeah, pretty good stuff. So I'll try to find it over the break and play it for you. If not, we'll just close out one-on-one.

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