10 Minutes of Schaub - THE BGL SPECIAL with Mark Harley | 10 Minutes of Schaub #38

Episode Date: February 19, 2023

Special interview with Marg Harley! Neglix. 

You've got to change your evil ways, Boppa Before you stop getting views, you've got to change, Boppa And every word that Mark said is true Cause you're a blockbuster. Redacted. And dumb as a clown. You've got mock posting. And talking. Gadooshing you down. This can't go on. Low knows you've got to change. Papa.

One take. Papa. You don't need that much nicotine. It's time for my favorite time of the week. When you get to hear, try to speak. Release surprises today. You better actually watch 10 Minutes of Shop. Welcome to T-Mose.

10 Minutes of Shop. Look at us. What are we doing here, Boppa? What are we doing here? We have Mark Harley on the show. Mark Harley. This is Brendan's drink on true, dude. Am I here? Heard it both ways.

This is CGI, you know? This is AI technology. One thing I wanted to ask you guys, you could probably tell, I am bigger and gayer and more lion-y in person, you gotta admit. Yeah, he's huge. I've prepared myself. I prepared myself. Yeah.

Yeah. I really did. You had a cardboard cut out of me. The lion is out. Out of the zoo. Free to roam, do what he wants, gadoosh anybody he wants. That's true. It's very freeing, actually.

It's very cool to see. Yeah. One thing I didn't expect from meeting you is that I didn't know that I was going to feel like a baby gay lion. You know what I mean? What do you mean? I just feel like I'm inferior. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's so funny. Sometimes like, I think that's a fun way to interact with guys to be like, guys love to do this. Like, no, I'm trying to get like you or like, I know you're buff. Like, right. But as you can probably tell, I spend so little time thinking about that and try to like actively not have my

brain work in that way versus I think guys like shop and other narcissists it's like always like sizing each other up and like who am I stronger than you could I murder you and like you know and it's just I don't know I just that kind of male behavior you're gonna get it anyway out in the world but um I just always think it's funny that's how guys interact like yeah yeah but you're bigger than me it's like I don't give a fuck's funny. That's how guys interact. Yeah, yeah. But you're bigger than me. It's like, I don't give a fuck, you know, because there's 800 guys, you know, who are bigger than me in, you know,

the quarter mile of here. Yeah. I mean, I don't even see it, honestly. I feel like a longtime friend just meeting for the first time, you know? Yeah. Great guy, never met him. This is so cool.

We've been shooting the shit. We're getting along really well. It's true. We had a nice, like, 20-minute, like, warm-up where've been shooting the shit. We're getting along really well. It's true. We had a nice 20-minute warm-up. We were shooting the shit. And this is what I told you off air, is that what I really appreciate about your show, because it almost seems like if you started a Brennan Shop channel,

if you can't get 10,000 people, it's like, what are you doing here? You're a blog buster, yeah. But a lot of these channels are kind of just going like a recap the most basic recap of what happened in the bop a verse this week but you guys are actually two things you're adding creativity to it with these song parodies which i assume like that takes time to both write and record right that's i would assume it's several hours a week well really it's one take but it is one take for the recording it just is the length of the time of the song but you know the writing I don't assume takes you know only a few minutes so but it's also just time and mental energy and and I can tell you guys want to do it really well and then secondly the humor of

the show to me comes from the fact that you're very detached and you you take this approach of like it's all silly and I want to be entertained by it. And it's some people cross over into this like anger and contempt and actual bitterness. And it's, to me, it's hard to do comedy from that place. Yeah. We don't want to be like that. It's all fun and games for us. Yeah. And honestly, we're standing on, as I've said before, we're standing on the shoulders of giants. You know, we've got people like Rogan is shorty pie and Ryan Joseph and present a banana and all those people. No, it is because like people, you have really good engagement and I don't know the, I know you get pretty good numbers for the fact, like, like, you know, I'm a numbers guy, B. So

you guys do really good numbers for, I don't know how many subscribers, but it always looks like people engage. And that's kind of another one of these core things that, numbers for, I don't know how many subscribers, but it always looks like people engage. And that's kind of another one of these core things that, you know, I'll probably continue to bring up. Like, you know, here's how I think,

and here's how Brendan thinks. And I think like, you know, the mistakes that led to us falling out are part of this because I think when you're dealing with podcasting and social media, you have to cultivate your community and treat them like equals in a sense. Like you can't kind of take this, like I'm just better than everyone. And that's part of what the, I don't read comments says. It's like, your opinion doesn't matter at all. And he'll say

things like, well, I've never gotten a tag from a comment. It's like, well, maybe you should. Right, right, right. Yeah. Maybe, maybe you should get a, you know, Hey, you're an asshole from the comments or just some sort of like you look for a repeating pattern you know even if you just pick a hundred comments and see like if half of them are people saying you're doing this thing maybe you're doing this thing i don't know yeah i think you're 100 right about that and that brings me to my first question which a lot of cats have been wondering about i know me and gerardo have been wondering about it it's just shot he doesn't read the comments he doesn't do social media, but does he have writers?

And you don't have to say who they are, but like, if you want to, like, can you say who they are? I know, like, I know one person who is like,

you know, I'll describe an interaction. This person is a professional comic who recently put out a special that I think is very good. And this person comes from the world of advertising and marketing and is very good at that element of it. And also like as a creative professional has a format of like, we start here and blah, blah, blah. And people, for example, like people like they'll bring up the fact they went to the San Francisco Comedy College, you know, went like right out of my actual college.

And that's always like a source of like ripping on me, you know, it's like, oh, Mr. Comedy College. But really what it is is like, the benefit of things like that is it gives you like kind of a creative workflow. You know, that's almost like foolproof. Like if you start here, you start with a topic and then move here.

And so like, I think Brendan could almost, so this person, what I witnessed is like, oh yeah, you have your own version of that. And you kind of worked through to like, just make the best tags and whatever. And I saw them, I don't know what actually got implemented. I just know that I've seen him spend a couple sessions

and this person charges money for it. But like, you'd almost have to read there's it goes deeper than that you can't just write jokes for brennan because you have to almost like explain comedy to him right yeah because in his mind comedy is like saying mean things about other people yeah you have to be like so brennan when you try the joke it has to be funny yeah no someone has to laugh after and so one of the things about that like again in the sf comedy college it helped me kind of conceptualize even what a joke is like that that a verbal joke at least hinges on this double entendre and the distance sort of between where you can get

somebody's mind to go in the setup and where it ends up is like you know you could sort of say roughly it's this like the size of the laugh is like how far can i get you to go this way and hinge on a double entendre that takes you like sort of say roughly it's this, like the size of the laugh is like, how far can I get you to go this way and hinge on a double entendre that takes you, like sort of wormholes you to this other place, this other image. And that always was just something that I think about because I go like, if you're ever wondering like, is this funny or not?

You can kind of go like, well, does it like have a twist in it? Does it have a misdirection? But Brendan's twist, Shob's twist is always that somebody's gay. Correct. No, it's like hyper repetitive. repetitive and then again even some of these things it's just like yes there is a joke there but i go like if you took the underlying format to that and just go i don't know like i think it would open up his creativity just to think about like the nature

of comedy and even but then the real issue is introspection because i don't can't do that correct like his his comedy is a lot of projection it's not a lot is introspection because I don't, I can't do that. Correct. Like his, his comedy is a lot of projection. It's not a lot of introspection. He'll bring up stuff like his therapist or his mom, or like he almost like the misdirection is I'm about to talk about myself. And then it's like,

psych, my mom sucks. And my therapist sucks. Everybody sucks. And my wife sucks. I'm surprised he has a therapist, but there's, there's too much.

I mean, therapist. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I'm sure you know, it's like, I went to you a few times. Yeah. It's the hot chip guy. What's the hot chip guy's name?. I mean, therapist, yeah. It's somebody at Big Boy.

It's the hot chip guy. What's the hot chip guy's name? We say hot chip. Nick, the producer. He's a great guy. He's a really sweet guy. I know he eats a lot of shit. I only watched that one clip with him, but he seems nice. Dude, the hot chip moment's endearing as fuck. All he wants to see is these guys take a hot chip.

You're absolutely right. It was an innocent moment, but it created a comedy classic when Theo just goes, I don't want that. But why would you? I was sitting there going like, there's no fucking way I'd eat a hot chip right now.

It'd just ruin my day. Yeah, no, no. I don't really like hot chips anymore because they hurt my stomach. Several hours of pain? Like, no? After eight hours of podcasting. There's too much

you'd have to teach Brendan before comedy, you know? Because he doesn't know continents. He doesn't know where New England is. He doesn't know basic shit like human beings do. Content or continents? Social media continents. Oh, man.

I got another question about the gringo poppy for you. You have a lot of questions. I got a lot of questions about it. That's what we're fascinated. Hey, when people pretend they're interested in me that's my favorite thing no no and yeah drop any zingers please but um were there any other names considered for the gringo poppy special yeah fuck i'm dude that's such a good question i should have um you can come back before yeah like because i know I know he went through a few different things.

And actually, to me, the Gringo Poppy is a good name. Imagine a special that delved into deeper stuff and kind of stuck maybe more to actually exploring Mexican culture. No, I'm actually going to hold you. There's going to be times where we just break out laughing. That's fine. But it it's gonna make me go like no like like i want to make this point because it sounds like you're right i'm gonna so no but where i'm coming from laughing is the fact that what the name represents now is hilarious when you try to think of what it could have been you know right right and it

couldn't like it's transcended the the like you you can never put those words together again without like you know what i mean it's like it can't be said anymore like he's destroyed part of the spanish language Right? He fucking, he enhanced those words. He colonized those words. He colonized the words, dude. He offends everybody over every spectrum. Right, right.

And this is funny because like, also, think about, because I'm, for example, so like, you know,

I love the Spanish language. It's fun for me to speak. I studied it for like seven years growing up. And if I meet, so like when I'm at his house, I remember I sang for her in Spanish. I'd studied it for like seven years growing up. And if I meet, so like when I'm at his house, I can remember I sing for her in Spanish. I was like,

you know, so I'll bust out these Spanish songs. I really do. I really do. I really do. We wanted to choose a song today. That was neck-lasting. But you know, I say that because it's just, it's one of my little stupid techniques to be like,

hey, I speak Spanish. And then you're kind of on the same page because like, again, if you're like the Spanish is such an easy language to learn. Yeah. So if you're like you're married to Mexican, the whole family's Mexican, you never opened up Duolingo or something and fucking took it. So he knows zero Spanish and it comes off like,

and also like there's just, there is so much to me greatness about mexico and mexican culture and like there's a richness there that like dating back to the ancient cultures of the mind like there's so much you could go if you're going like i want to make this special themed around mexico and my mexican wife there's so many there's so much you know you could go into and he was just like, taquitos. Yeah, yeah. Hot Cheetos. Hot Cheetos.

After you saying that, the joke he came up with after not considering any of that was them eating hot Cheetos. Right. And it's like, that is something I remember going to like, I used to substitute teach and I'd go around to schools and be like, oh yeah, like Mexican kids do love hot Cheetos. But it is the most basic observation. It's like, I don't think his wife likes hot Cheetos. Like, I think it's probably made up.

No chance. She's like a fitness don't think his wife likes that Cheetos. Like I think it's probably made up. No chance. She's like a fitness influencer. She's not eating that shit. And I doubt his, her old ass mom is walking around with a bag of hot Cheetos. First of all, wait, wait,

wait, have you guys ever seen her mom? No, no, no. Like he, because how do you imagine her when he portrays her in the special? I picture like a grandma,

like with like a, and she's making like handmade tortillas with like a flower like whatever she's like a c you know yeah she like doesn't know how to use a cell phone and it's like frail and like you know yeah that's what you said you know right like you just an image comes to mind yeah here's what she actually looks like she's like looks like she's in her 50s. She looks like she could be late 40s. Gorgeous, like very pretty. Wow. Incredible body.

Like she's a sexy 50-year-old woman who you wouldn't pick out of a lineup and say she's Mexican. You'd be like, oh, she looks like she could be like French, Spanish, Argentinian, something like that. Like there's nothing stereotypically Mexican about her besides a slight accent on top of otherwise perfect english mark i wanted to talk to you about something like she talked you know like spanish rhythm of speaking english but like the idea like i mean he spends all this time like building up this joke like she doesn't speak english but she doesn't right but she doesn't right she doesn't though she doesn't know it's like really like and then and then having to do that in front of your family like what was it

was there like a warning like hey guys guys i made all this shit up you know yeah what about the um the stucco thing do you know anything like the dallas skyline do you know who did that or like how that idea tiger in boston tiger in boston made it they cut it out with scissors oh shit no i'm kidding that made sense i knew he was kidding. I laughed at that. And then I was like, that would be so funny if it was true, but no. Yeah, that was a funny reference when they brought it up. I mean, I assume this is in part a reference to Steve-O being like, that's where the gringo poppy was found. No, honestly, we saw that, but it's because Walsh,

which I'm wearing a world record pot, shout out. Walsh was like, I think he either asked me on his pot or we've just been talking about it he's like you gotta figure out Walsh said that he wants to see the documentary

of the making of the stucco all that yeah we want a documentary about the gringo pop because we find it fascinating I know like there's so many

great documentaries have you seen Overnight with that guy I think it's like he did is it something Duffy he did

oh Boondock Saints yeah I thought that shit is crazy yeah but there's like he did, is something Duffy? He did. Oh, Boondock Saints? Yeah, Boondock Saints. Yeah, I thought that shit is crazy. Yeah, but there's like, there's, and also I watched this documentary of that YouTube guy, FouseyTube, who like, he was trying to come back. Oh yeah, I saw that one. And he was like having this manic episode.

It's like, there are some great like moments or these documentaries that are basically like, we need to start filming right now. This is magic happening. And I don't like in retrospect, I don't know, like, yes. So like if I could see the future, I'd be like, Hey dude, I'm going to do stuff behind the scenes doc, you know, of all this shit. So that brought me to one of my questions I wanted to ask. As we all know, he was looking for a new, uh, some sort of social media manager recently. Yeah. And I want to know how hard it is.

Like, is there any chain mail around getting into the thick boy crew that's a good question because I think he I don't know what his hiring process is and actually I think when he's putting up the ad um it was more like I think if we're talking about the same thing he was looking for like a YouTube specialist because he always wants people to kind of be it's like like he heard Mike Nell who's a creative director and Mike comes from like this film background and does all these things really well as far as like creating content he's really smart and like able to organize and kind of like lead a shoot so like in many ways he's great at his job but like is that guy also going to be like a youtube expert strategist like yeah that you can't have all people be all things but he kind of like what the fuck why can't we figure people be all things, but he kind of would be like, what the fuck? Why can't we figure YouTube out?

It's like, well, there's people that like, that's their job. You know what I mean? Like when they worked for YouTube last year and you know, or still do. So I think that was the thing because, you know, he, and I'm not saying it couldn't help him, but I think he gets himself into these positions

where, you know, he's buying all these views and maybe followers too. Cause I always like, I'm looking at the page and I'm like, you kind of got to like 100,000, like 150 really quickly. And it's kind of like stalled out. Who knows? But when you buy views, the YouTube experts can be like,

oh yeah, your page is fucked. Your algorithm is screwed. And I don't know how you reset that. You can't pay for engagement. You can't. That's a really old game to play. Because as the algorithm gets more sophisticated and these tech companies become more sophisticated,

of course they're going to catch on to that and punish you. Somebody dumb like Schaub, he'll get caught doing anything. Anything he does, they're going to put his hands in the cookie jar. The Kratom jar. He's so stupid. I was just going to say, yes, in the cookie jar. Yeah, exactly. The Kratom jar.

He's so stupid. Who, or go ahead, sir. Oh, no, I was just going to say, yes, he always does the dumbest thing, gets caught,

and like is always snitching on himself by projecting in a lot of ways. Right, right. Who, did somebody open for him at the Gringo Poppy?

Was there like another comedian? Yeah, David Lucas and Chappelle. Oh, wow. Okay, so they were both there. Beasts of comics, you know.

But he would still like rip on them both. Like David, what's funny is watching him like go around the country, like he'd like apologize for Dave's act. Like so Dave comes out there and, you know, he does like, you know, some really, I don't know if you're familiar with his like humor at all. He's like a roast guy, right? Yeah, and so a lot of his, it's almost like he's got this kind of like black Anthony Jeselnik. It's not as dark,

but like a lot of his jokes are maybe abortion focused or just like he's provoking you in some way. I think a lot of it's really good. Okay. But like, sure. You can go to Salt Lake city, Utah, and there's going to be some people in the audience who are like, you know, however you knew what his act is before you brought him on the road and so to bring this guy on and then kind of like get on stage and and from his perspective from brandon's perspective he's like i'm just bringing everybody back but he'll be like jesus christ david like he'll do like three minutes on like oh my god david's so offensive and it's like what like you know

but that's just his mo for everything yeah i's like, I'm going to make myself look bigger and shit on you. Even though like, again, David's like, I think David's a star. And I think Chappelle's a star too. That's what this guy was telling me about. There was, I forget his name. I'd say it if I remember,

but he was an old graphics guy for Schaub. Yeah. And he was saying that like Schaub, all he cared about was making Brian look bad. Like he was like, make Brian look gay. I couldn't, like that makes all the sense in the world. And that seems to be his MO. And again, as you get closer to him,

once kind of, you know, there's this like love bombing phase and he like, there was a period of time where if he'd said something, if I remember one time he called me on a pod, he said,

oh yeah, Mark's like my, like what's the animal, like where you like take it around my, like it's like if you're blind it's like my service animal oh seeing eye dog yeah yeah he said like

oh Mark's like my service animal or my anxiety and I wouldn't have even cared about that but he like he like texted me he's like hey man you know I didn't mean it

I'm like no no no that's fine like you wanted me to me it was like oh you want me around because like I you know I make you feel good or something

that's fine but then he'd start to say more offensive things over time. Next month, it's like, oh yeah, Mark's like animal from the Muppets. And I'm like, am I? Like I'm reckless and fucking chaotic. Like, you know, it's always like under the guise of a joke,

it's always this like really unflattering portrait of you. Like he'd go out of his way to be like, Mark, when Mark eats, it's so disgusting. But then there's like pictures of Shab eating. Yeah, he should never talk about somebody eating. Right, so you can't even find a straw the straw thing is amazing well yeah what are you doing yeah because he'll look at other stuff that's not a straw and be like you're not a straw b it makes me he treats brian so bad it makes me feel like i need to treat gerardo better no seriously when i was sometimes would be uncomfortable in the T-Fat K room

because I remember one time, I don't know if you guys ever used psychedelics, but you know. Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm just a big,

allegedly, you know, I'm a big fan of micro dosing and macro dosing, but like, you know, micro dosing has helped me get through some depression

and whatnot. And I just, I, not that I'd recommend it to everybody, but I would at least like, I'd try to download my experiences to people because I go, yeah, like it's, it's a unique drug experience. It's not like popping Adderall or doing things that are really addictive. You can't really get addicted to them. But in some ways it can provide like a spark that you need to get through something. Anyway, Brian came in and was wanting to talk about his LSD experience and I was all for it. I'm like, yes, it's exciting. Cause I'm like, you haven't done this before. And you're kind of trying to, it's hard to describe a psychedelic

experience sometimes, you know, and why it enhances your creativity and, and puts you in this positive mood. But like, I like dissecting that kind of stuff. Brendan couldn't have been more negative and dismissive and just insulting about it. And I was just like, Oh, this like hurts my heart. You know, like it was like beyond funny or like, like, like Excel. Okay. This is a dynamic. I was, it was just like, who cares? Dude, you're too old. Dude, who cares? No, I'll never do like, it was just like, you know, Brian's trying to like, yes. And him and kind of just kind of get something. And it was just like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Um, psychedelics. You're talking to alpha brain B. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah but you know he'll dismiss it

like man i took mushrooms once like microdose and it made me feel weird yeah it's called self reflection yeah i mean they're they're great yeah another thing where he's stupid were any were any jokes cut out of the gringo poppy they yeah he did film an entire hour set and he's doing you know okay let me start this off with this. I saw him in Anthony Jeselnik talk before a show one time in the green room. And he had referenced a time before when he was like trying to like give Anthony Jeselnik advice

and it was front of other people. And he kind of framed it as like, oh yeah, Anthony snapped at me. But I'm like, well, yeah, you were trying to, like he's one of the greatest living comics you don't even mean like he's like like and he's also like he's kind of got this mystique where like he doesn't even need to use instagram or social media it's like you know like when anthony doesn't like drops especially like i'm watching it you know um and i've seen him perform enough times where like he's just

you obviously know it's like he's all about comedy and doesn't give a fuck and um brendan tried to say he's like oh yeah well you should try to like this and like he's kind of giving him like because brendan in his mind is like oh well i'm like a business and marketing guy so i'm trying to give anthony justin a good advice but he made it seem like he's like anthony's talking this way and it's kind of like hey brendan i think i got it like he like gives him like he says that and like winks at him. I'm like, that was Anthony Jess. The next way of being like, Hey, you fucking idiot.

Don't ever talk to me about anything relating my career. And then the second part of it was when I saw them talking, he was kind of like, man, you know, I think the new thing is because like one of his rationales for only releasing 25 minutes of this, this set,

cause it was an hour long set. He's like, well, no, they have the analytics in on Netflix. People only watch, you know, 28 minutes of, of a special. And I'm like, I don't even know what that means, but I wouldn't take that as like just released 28 minutes, you know, because then people it's like, well, you know, maybe it's because people watch half of it. I don't know. Like, or if you're taking an average, it's like, well, maybe there's just

some that people turn off after three minutes. Cause it sucks. And then people watch an hour of the other one. It doesn't tell me anything personally. Yeah. Watch time is based off of average or like percentage. Correct. But also too, when I put on the gringo poppy, maybe he's onto something because I can't look away. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, I watch it all the time. That is true. Right. You guys are watching multiple times. So the final thing about the Jeslin, he's like, no, you should like, a lot of people are just like filming like half an hour and then you still have your other hour. And Jeslin was, he's like, he's like, no, you should like, a lot of people are just like filming like half an hour and then you still have your other hour.

And Jeslinic was very diplomatic and this wasn't an insult, but I liked how he thought about it. He was like, actually like I do the whole hour because to me, each one of my hours is like a novel. Like I'm not going to release half the novel. And I was like, yeah,

like, and then just, I think showcases his artist's mind about it. That he's like, this is a, this is a unit. I'm not going to be like, Oh,

and then I can have this for the road. It's like it's like no no you start over and write more okay you know but yes to answer your question fully there is many jokes that he's still doing in his set and it's funny because i'm like all new hour it's like but it's not yeah you know like and and not that i don't think he's shortchanging people as far as time because he will go an hour 20 whatever and try new stuff and have fun but like um there's definitely jokes that he's still doing he filmed on the green with poppy and took out and i don't honestly i don't even know what the justification like i wasn't in the editing room you know i've since like learned editing and feel like well actually i edited a lot of his stand-up

clips like even just like before i knew adobe like i was like i don't know this doesn't need to be fucking three minutes let me get it out into 90 seconds. Just on my phone, you know, um, just to take out of the, uh, what's like one joke that if you can remember that he's, uh,

cut out, but he's still doing, um, fat Spider-Man. Oh, I heard about this one. You heard that? No,

I'm very interested. So, um, this, this whole bit about how for his kid's birthday during quarantine, they hire like this Spider-Man to come to the birthday party. And it's like this fat Mexican dude who they paid 40 bucks, you know, 10 bucks an hour and he stays for six hours or whatever. And like, you know, the whole joke is about like, he's all coked it. Like he goes into the bathroom and does all the Mexican cocaine or all the Colombian cocaine, you know, and, and, uh, comes out, he's like, Whoa, let's go. And the whole thing is kind of like, like, like he, like, again, like this person is incompetent and stupid. Part of it is, is his wife incompetent and stupid because she hired the guy off Yelp. And it's like a one-star review. And it's like, Oh, there's a

Spider-Man rental on Yelp. And like, it's one, like none of that makes any sense. Like you're bringing this guy to your, like, he's overweight and like a Mexican day laborer who does Spider-Man and he like drove three hours to come here and he's been doing coke the whole like yeah how does he know that he did cocaine right right yeah it's like it's like oh you like if you believe at face value the joke that he's making and I like again I like it's one of these stupid things where like unless the guy actually did coke like I don't want that to be made up in the joke yeah like i want to be like it seemed like you know what i mean but it's like so you you're you're stating confidently the guy went into your bathroom and your luxurious tarzana home and came out like you and he had like coke on his face and you're like and that guy i'm

gonna like interact with my kids what it makes no sense i'm thinking of brendan like with glasses and like a pencil yeah Yeah. It's like, right. No. Cause you go, some of these jokes, I have no fucking idea where they start. Like the,

the, the, you know, the dick pic joke about me that we were talking about. I'm like, I don't even know what the origin of that is. Like it's not, there's not a single thing about it grounded in reality,

except that I'm on steroids, but fuck you. Also too, that joke is Kevin Hart's joke. That's the joke about the SpongeBob at the party. That's all coked out. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's remember the joke about the spongebob at the party that's all coked out oh really yeah oh that's another thing he stole then oh my god see yeah i don't know like and that that honestly would solve a lot of the mystery but because i i just it's very difficult to see that happen yeah and then another joke was about he doesn't have

the one where he takes um this is another example of like, everyone's, even his kids are stupid and incompetent, like in his, you know. Somebody recently was like, well, Louis C.K. made this. I'm like, when you do a Louis C.K., it's like, you get like a four-year-old that's like, it's called Pig Newtons. I don't know if you know that one.

I'm not saying my cat Pig Newtons, because it was like an argument. He's making fun of himself going, I'm the dumb ass who's going, it's Fig Newtons. And the kid's like, it's Pig Newtons because they're like it was like an argument he's making fun of himself going i'm the dumb ass who's going it's fig newtons and the kid's like it's pig newtons you know um but in brendan's joke world tiger who is actually a really great athlete for his age and he's bigger than everyone like he's going to bjj class and fucking people up like they can't even put him with the other six-year-olds he has to go with like 11-year-olds who are good to like even get a challenge so like that is relevant because on the the show or yeah in his show he goes my son tiger got his first takedown the other day at bjj no no don't applause don't applause two years in first

takedown come on not my son like this whole thing about like he sucks at bjj so like the premise of this it couldn't just be like oh he did good did good one day. It has to be like, he hasn't gotten a takedown in two years. Like, are you insane? And then the premise is like, he goes to the ice cream store and sets up this whole thing where he's in the ice cream.

And like, they go, Tiger, they don't have strawberry, your favorite flavor. And he goes, fuck, you know,

like that's like the whole joke. And then it's like, oh my God, like this relatable dad, just shitty, unathletic kid. Who's just screaming of curse words in the pump, you know?

So bad news for us. If tiger grows up to be a very good MMA person. Yeah. Bad news. Probably kick our ass. I don't know. He seems sweet. Um,

and, uh, and then there was one about, he does a whole bit about OJ Simpson. Like, Oh, I don't know that one. Yeah.

And that's one of my, the, the bits I actually, I think he should have put out. I don't know. Like maybe he wanted to keep doing it. I think it's pretty good actually. Like, Oh, I don't know that one. Yeah. And that's one of my, the, the bits I actually, I think he should have put out. I don't know. Like maybe he wanted to keep doing it. I think it's pretty good actually. Um, he talks about OJ Simpson's Twitter. Hello, Twitter world. You know, you guys know that. And so he breaks down like, wait, what? Rogan always says that, doesn't he? Hello. Not as a standup joke, but on his podcast, he's always talking about the, yeah. Yeah. I wonder, I wonder who put who onto that little world.

And then he kind of makes it, there's some better like tags to the, that chunk of jokes because he'll be like, he put this cookbook, he put this cookbook out. If I cooked it, you know, he sells knives online.

Like that's a joke. Like, you know, yeah. So there's just better. I think it's a more well-developed thing, but again, he's taking OJ who's already this kind of like,

it's an easy target. There's already all this ridiculous shit about it. You know, and then he has to like add on top of it. Be like, OJ is so ridiculous that he's like, I don't see the problem with all these people getting vaccinated. Like, why are you scared to get vaccinated? It's easy. You're going in, you get stabbed.

You know, and there's a lot of like knife, like, but it's like, that's all fake, but he's prasking off his, but like, like knife, like, like, but it's like, that's all fake, but he's passing off as, but like, so it's like still like, look at how stupid and like crazy OJ is. Does he, does he question OJ sexual orientation?

Yes. No. Oh, okay. I would maybe, I don't know. I mean, yeah,

everybody, but OJ apparently, you mentioned the road B I had some questions about the road. What clubs does Brendan do the best at? let me think about that for a second. We're the worst. Okay. Either one.

Both. I'll answer both of those. Because that's the thing. People go like, oh, does he have any new fans? I'm like, yeah. Like, there are people come to see his shows. It's just like, it's not like, you know, I don't know. When you see like videos of like Chris D'Elia

is like selling out fucking theaters and shit. And like, you know, I don't know per se, like I can't answer this question. I think it's a mix of factors and he's been trying to figure out like, why did I sell more in this? But like Texas is usually good markets for him. You know, some California, like San Diego,

like he sold out like every night in San Diego at the Laugh Factory, even during Comic-Con, you know, some California, like San Diego, like he sold out like every night in San Diego at the Laugh Factory, even during Comic-Con, you know? So I've definitely seen some really packed audiences and like people come out, people who still know who he is, people. And also I want to say this, the atmosphere at his shows, it's not like it's not a good time, you know?

Like if you're seeing Chappelle Lacey and Justin Elliott and David Lucas, you know, and you're into black comics, then that's your bag. Oh know, like if you're seeing Chappelle Lacey and Justin Elliott and, and, uh, David Lucas, you know, and you're into black comics, then that's your bag. Oh yeah. You know, interesting.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, and then Brandon comes on stage and they're like, who is this motherfucker? Yeah. He's like, I'm a racist.

I have three opening black guys. He's like Elvis. He's like, you know, using black culture to succeed. Right. Right. Elvis,

Eminem, Bill Clinton. Interesting. I honestly, I couldn't tell you what, you know, whether that's a conscious effort on his, but like, like, but nobody, Right, right, right. Elvis, Eminem, Bill Clinton. Interesting move. And so I don't, I honestly, I couldn't tell you whether that's a conscious effort on his part. Probably not.

But nobody, I think people, you'll get your money's worth whether or not you like Brennan's comedy. The show in its entirety is really good. But to answer your question,

remember we went to Appleton, Wisconsin and the Thursday Night Show was like 12 people generously in the crowd. It was like, ugh. Now I don't know, again, I don't know what the fuck goes into that um Fort Wayne Indiana were some rough shows I remember that was actually one where he's like man I'd like somebody gave him the wrong

numbers or something maybe somebody trolled him like bought a bunch of tickets and they didn't show up I have no clue but like he was convinced that like the Thursday night show was like already sold out and we showed up it's like there's 20 people here and again I'm not like I don't like to use that kind of like you can't sell tickets or this and that because it's like yeah get one person to show up and pay 20 bucks to see you do stand-up like that's impressive to me but when you kind of make that your own metric of like other people's worth you know and then that's your own like, yeah, you're then people are going to wield that against you. You know what I mean? Cause he's very quick to dismiss others as not being able to sell tickets.

Well also too, he like showboated the fact that he got to jump the line. You know what I mean? Correct. Correct. And I think, yeah. And I think I've been thinking about this recently cause I go, you know, you guys both started out at open mics, right? And you're, and I always tell people that I'm like, if you think like Dane Cook, isn't funny or something like that. I remember when that was like, there's always

this comedian to be like, this person's not funny or even Brendan, like, you know, cause I will give him a readily give him credit for all these things that I do think he's good at. Um, you know, and I think that lends more validity to when you do critique him, but I go, you think like avatar too bad, go see a student film. You think Dane Cook is not funny? Go see an open mic. And you've probably seen some of the most painful performances. Like, you know, like, like, like three minutes can, can be a very long time if you're dealing with a delusional person who doesn't know how to like even formulate something resembling a joke. Shout out Ian Russo. Yeah. Is that him? You think the earthquake in Syria is

bad? Go see Gringo Poppy. That might be too far. I apologize. We'll donate money or something. But like, so I bring up open mics to go, you guys have developed some skills to be like, there's not a lot of like, you can kind of like, it's like, there's not a lot of people here

that are not paying attention. I'm going to use a trick. I'm going to develop a trick. And I, I relate to that in the sense I used to substitute teach and I'd walk into some hostile environments and like you develop, you got to learn real quick or they're going to eat you up. You know, they'll light you up, B. I got a question about that. So you work security for him, right? That's real. Like he would say that, but that's actually something where it's like, I mean, I know I always like, yes. And like, there was a time when like you know something like and this I would go for all my friends like I don't mind getting in a fight like I'm reckless in that regard not that I'm some fucking tough guy but it's like I'm not scared of getting punched in

the face and I've been in fights and played football like so physical contact with other men doesn't scare me and I do like to think of myself as like, if shit went down, I'm going to be running toward it rather than away from it. So like, in that sense, out of his crew, like, yeah, like if, if somebody's trying to attack Brendan, of course I would be helping out. And of course I would be like, that goes for anybody in, you know, the club really. And I think that maybe was a legitimate, like concern on his end at some point, you know, he does have haters. He did have people who would like threaten to come and this and that, but like,

usually you pay people for that job. Yeah. So you did free security. Like he would call me security. And I knew I had to like, like, okay, I'd have to like be with him during the day.

We'd go to Boston or something. It's like group activities. Like, well, if I'm security for you, I kind of have to like be with the group. Right. Right.

And then I'm also like showing up to the club. If it two shows it's like I'm there at 6 6 20 p.m before the 7 p.m show and then you know I'm there till midnight or after so these hours add up like you know if I'm just doing social media like if you're a social media account manager you're not traveling with somebody doing security like like so what are the actual hours of this and then plus this and then I'm supposed to focus on here while also doing you know but that's just you know that's you're not traveling with somebody and doing security. Like, like, so it's like, what are the actual hours of this? And then plus this, and then I'm supposed to focus on here while also doing, you know, but that's just,

you know, that's kind of telling as far as like how he sees people. It's like, what do you mean? Like you have a free minute during the day, like give that to me, you know, or why aren't you doing everything all at once?

That's crazy. But did you ever have to like, uh, do security on a thick boy? You know, like one of these thick boy fans. Well, that's the thing is also like, yeah, I, I, I'd have to like do security on a thick boy? You know, like one of these thick boy fans? Well, that's the thing is also like, yeah, I'd like to like, I used to wrestle when I was, when I wrestled in high school,

I'd go up against heavyweights. I was like a small, I was just like a big guy of like 270 or 300 pounds. Like that's not inherently intimidating to me. I'd actually probably be scared of like, if you're like 180 wiry and have cauliflower here, like I'm getting, you know, I'm going to be like, this guy's probably like 180 wiry and have cauliflower here like i'm i'm getting you know i'm gonna be like this guy's probably like quicker and trains combat sports and stuff like that but if you look like a football player like an old lineman it's like i've dealt with old

linemen before you know what i mean and um you know so again people don't believe me but i'm like you know there's a huge thing on the subreddit because like i was when when darren till talked shit about Brendan Schaub, when he posted this video, it was like petition to get, you know, Brendan Schaub out of MMA. Cause they, they like congratulated Logan Paul after he like boxed Floyd Mayweather or something like that. And I was like, you know, I said something like, Hey Darren, you've won like one of your last five fights, you know,

like maybe it's time to get you out of MMA or something. And people are like, oh my God. And they're like, Darren Till will beat your ass. Like you'd never fucking fight him. I'm like, no, I'd fight him. Like if you gave me enough money, I'd step in a cage with him. I'm not guaranteeing an outcome, but like I can honestly say like not,

and people go, oh, you wouldn't be scared at all. It's true. Every fight, I'm like, I'm not saying I'd be, I wouldn't feel fear. I'm saying that I believe that I would be willing to step in the face and get, or start stepping in a cage and risk getting hit in the face multiple times by

Darren Till. That doesn't, like, you know, give me a half million dollar paycheck? Doesn't sound so scary, does it? But I'm in no way going around like, I could fucking beat up UFC fighters. Like, I'm not that, but I'm just like. Yeah, I doubt you. But you would too. Like, if somebody offered you enough money, like, I mean, what's the worst

that's going to happen? I get knocked out. Yeah. Who cares? Yeah. It would be, it'd have to be a lot for me to fight Darren, but I'm more like your size. Yeah.

Or got smaller, smaller shots. Like we need to be like, Oh, like, yeah. TJ Dillashaw is going to beat me up. Who gives a shit?

I get beat up by some like a woman that just started fighting. Right. There's a price. Everybody has a price. You're probably right. You're started fighting. Right, there's a price to everything. Everybody has a price. You're probably right. You're probably right. Did you ever actually have to fight any of these fans? No.

No, okay. No. I mean, and actually I'll give credit to the people who come to the shows because that's always one of the questions that people want to know is like, what's the thick boy fandom like? It's a lot of normal ass people.

You know what I mean? They're looking for a good time. And, you know, either you're into MMA or you've seen running before you're like there's all these funnels that would bring you to a show or you know you you get offered free tickets um something like that and yeah like flappers yeah and so I met a lot of really cool people because also like it's it's it was cool the probably the coolest part of going on the road because like I'm waking waking up at 5am to go pick them up and here, and then I can't work out or train people when I'm like,

it took me away from a lot. My, and my girl hated me, you know, traveling. She's like, we don't fucking like, when was the last time we went on a date on Saturday night? Like, you know, and, and, you know, she's valid for, for saying that and feeling that, but like the highlight was always meeting people after the show. And there's a lot of, you know, totally regular, like, because most people like if you was always meeting people after the show. And there's a lot of, you know, totally regular, like, because most people, like if you ask the average person on the street, I, I don't think most people realize they're not going to be able to name like 20

comedians. You know what I mean? They're like, who do you, would you like, who would you go see if you saw their name on a marquee? Like most people would probably, right. Even there's a thousand of them, but you know so it's like you meet like right because people you just forget like you'll say i don't know like there's this comics that i know like like even i'm like oh that person's really mainstream and you'll talk to him he's like i have no clue who that is that's fine you know but so yeah normal people you know lots of blue collar people and also just like legit interesting people that, um, I've kept in contact with, you know, so the fans are all cool.

And only a few times somebody, Oh, you're so funny. I just fucking remember. This was the one time that I didn't have to actually get physical with somebody. Nice. Um,

we, Brandon was wrapping up a show in the Houston improv and there was this dude who comes out and he had, he had this Indian accent and he was like livid over like Brendan show. He goes like, this man is not funny. He's not funny. He's talking about dicks. I don't like it. Like he was like offended. He's a smart guy. And he goes, that man is gay. He is gay. Like blah, blah, blah.

And I'm like, and I, and I just like, I felt like kind of starting a fight. Like this is, you know, you may tables have turned. Yeah. Oh, how the turntables turn. Um, and, uh, so he's sitting there going like this fucking man at the time, you know, like I'm standing, standing up for Brian. I'm like, yeah, like you don't like it with leave. And he's like, no, like he kind of was like persistent and drunk. He's like, he's fucking gay and he's not funny. And I'm like, and I get up in his face and I'm like, you know what, dude, you're gay. No, no, no, no. You're gay. And I just like, and, and so I was like up in his face and I'm like, you know what, dude, you're gay. And he's like, no, no, no, no, you're gay. And I just like, and so I was like up in his face

and kind of like, he's like, what are you gonna do? Beat me up? And he like, he was like the opening, the double doors were right behind him. And so what I did was like, I like lifted my leg up and kicked right behind him to open up the doors. And then I pushed him through and like, he stumbled out backwards and like he stumbled

out backwards and like the door closed it was like a nice little like and stay out you know i didn't want to like actually kick him but like i just like you know like when i threw him off guard and i kicked the door opened him up and then that's awesome he was being a dainty kept coming back and like talking shit so like the cops escorted you know he was drunk and being kind of disorderly but yeah that was good thank you for getting rid of that thick board. What's funny is he wasn't really that big. It was kind of like, Oh,

and he like left his girl inside, you know, like I think his girl is still enjoying the show and he's like, she's fucking gay. Everybody gay. She went home with shop that night to walk into his truck. Yeah. Truck walk situation.

I'll ask you a question. I asked Sean, I don't know if you saw the Sean McQuirkle interview. We did. I did. Yeah. A truck walk situation. I'll ask you a question I asked Sean. I don't know if you saw the Sean McQuirkle interview we did. I did, yeah. Oh, you watched? Oh, cool.

Me and Sean are frenemies. Yeah, oh, really? Okay. Well, you know, okay. The funny thing is, he like, do you mind if I say, you can ask me first,

but the setup to our relationship, and again, I watch the interview with him. I think he's a really smart, funny guy. I don't doubt a lot of this when he talks about these stories of like,

like going in for the TV show audition and having his own jokes, like it strikes me as a guy who should have done standup comedy. You know what I mean? Yeah, he's really funny. Yeah, he's really funny. And, you know, I think he's a thoughtful guy.

And I relate to him after Matt Mitrione, actually it was funny enough, like as Matt Mitrione's his good friend. Yeah. I was in like this rain, like tent before a tough mutter that Matt Mitrione, actually it was funny enough, like as Matt Mitrione's his good friend. Yeah. I was in like this rain, like tent before a tough mutter that Matt Mitrione came out and then like he bailed, he did like three miles of the tough mutter

and was like, I'm out dude. But that was, we're sitting there getting ready for it. And I get this message on my phone. Somebody's like, why'd you back out of this fight with Sean McCorkle? I'm like, what? Like who's Sean McCorkle? I honestly had never heard of him before.

And then he links me to this Reddit post and he like, it's this elaborate story. Like, you know, like BGO was talking shit online. So I told him like, I'll fucking beat your ass. And like, well, blind, I'm coming out to LA. And he was like, yeah, let's do it. And then he talks to shop and he realized like, Oh, Sean's actually serious. Like it was very elaborate. It was like a multi-paragraph story that didn't happen in any facet. And so I was just kind of confused. I'm like, you know, it's a bizarre thing to just like, it's one thing to have people talk shit about you. It's another thing to have a guy just like make up

this like short story about you in which like he challenges you to fight. And then you, and it's like, I wouldn't like, he's a six, seven UFC fighter. I'm not trying to fight that guy in the street for free. know what i mean like people just do that on youtube and reddit they just make stuff up right like they make up a narrative right yeah that's your narrative that's your narrative but like it now in retrospect if what he was trying to do is like get to brendan through me or whatever like i you know i can assign a number of different motives that are

sort of acceptable to me. I don't know if he still does have something personal, but again, like anybody that had anything personal against me because of my association with Brent, I get it, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I don't feel any animosity towards it. It was a little weird. I was just, luckily I like said like, who's Sean McCorkle out loud.

And that made sure it's like, Oh, he starts cracking up. He's like, Oh, that dude's like hilarious. And he's one of my good friends. And he just like, like he called him a verbal chefron's like, oh, he starts cracking up. He's like, oh, that dude's like hilarious. And he's one of my good friends. And he just like, like he called him a verbal chef.

So like, that is true that he's a very good writer. Oh yeah. A really funny, but also he was like, oh yeah, he just makes up crazy shit all the time. It's like, all right, I feel, I don't feel bad about that. But then, you know, I saw a post with him recently. It was kind of like, yeah, I guess the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but I think BGL is still a huge douchebag.

It's like, that's fine. You can think that, but also like, I want the world to know like the thing that you posted was just like

100% fabricated. Yeah. And he said, oh, he said he blocked me on social. He was like, and then Mark blocked me

everywhere. I was like, oh, that's so interesting because when I click on your Instagram, like it shows that you blocked me

and I still have the option to block you if you know that works. It's all Shab's fault. Right, right. It's like, look, this guy wouldn't be singling me out if I wasn't so sick with Shab.

Yeah, if you get close to Shab, you get gadouche in some way. Correct, correct. And we can probably smooth things over with the CEO, Shab. We have no sway with him, but he's a reasonable funny guy. No, I like him.

There's no animosity in him. I think he's hilarious and I hope that he can look at this situation and be like, oh, yeah, like, you know, do you think I'm a douche just because of shop, or did I, you know? And again, because I'm the kind of guy, like, it's like, if you feel like I did something to you personally, I want to take accountability for that, you know?

And if not, well, then, you know, maybe you got a weird issue going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if Sean knew about me and Gerardo's personal lives, you know and if not well then you know maybe you got a weird issue going on yeah yeah yeah i think if uh if sean knew about me and gerardo's personal lives he'd probably feel worse than he feels about you i'm just kidding i'm just saying we suck no matter yeah but anyways the question i was going to ask you is um with the eating of food while he talks to people. Is that like CTE or is that disrespect or why does he constantly do that? He always says something about it. Yeah, well, you know, it's another one of these examples of something where he,

it's, you know, a rule for me, but not for thee or whatever that phrase is. I'm sure I'm butchering, but it's so much, you know, and again, I'll use the narcissist term over and over again because it is appropriate, but it's a set of rules for this one person. And he acts like a hypocrite because he's very, very judgmental about other people eating. Like every time that I ate, like, you know,

I work out like I'm going to go home after this and probably eat like six eggs and a ribeye and a fucking potato and like mash, like, you know, yeah, it's going to be a lot of food because i'm 250 pounds and i lifted weights today you know um so get off my nuts um you know like if i'm having a second slice of lava cake at the improv you know like yeah but he got on you for that oh dude every like and i'm just like you're if you're trying to like shame me for eating like you're talking to the wrong guy, dude, you know, I was born in the overeating. And so anytime like you're,

he kind of makes you just feel on edge with eating because all the eating is like connected to him. So like, let's say you're like, no, I'm going to go eat by myself. Well, like he doesn't give you per diem.

So if you're on the road to them normally, like, you know, any, any TV show or anything that I've worked where you do a commercial or something, you fly like, they're giving you money for any time

that you're not on set to like cover your food. Shop will pay for your food. So give it to him. Like he will take care of you when you're on the road, but it's kind of like, well, we're all eating in the same restaurant together. And what that gives him is the power to be like, dude, really?

Like you ordered that? Or like, dude, slow down. Or he'll just go, please stop eating. Mark, please stop eating. Please stop eating. That's annoying as shit. It's annoying as shit because like, we'll be in the improv and it's like, yeah, man, maybe I only had like a light breakfast and then I'm going to have 12 chicken tendies, you know? And stuff like that where it's like, I don't like, like, obviously I don't eat that much where I'm getting fat. Like I may like binge eating is still kind of fun to me, you know, do on a Saturday night. It's like, yeah, man, I'm not going to get plastered,

but I might have like, you know, some chocolate cake. And I don't think that's the worst thing in the world, but he like, really, you can always tell there's like this tension of like, he doesn't want you to eat around him when he's not eating,

especially like he's got some weird hangups about eating. But then after the show, it's always like, let's go get pizza. I'm like, dude, I just like, there's free food here and we just ate it.

And I think he doesn't like to eat maybe because he's like nervous before going on stage or something like that. But like, it's always like any principle that he has is like, you know, I'm going to be gross. But if you said anything to him while he's eating, Oh,

lights out, dude. I wonder what his therapist thinks about food truck diaries. No, why would he? No, it's always like, yeah,

it's, it's this world of concept. Like I want to do carnivore and keto and get ripped, you know, like Mark, but also like there's a donut in the logo of my company and I'm calling myself fat, you know? Yeah, his whole thing is he's thick. You know that movie, The Menu, where they do this?

God, that was such a good movie. Did you like that? Yeah, I enjoyed it. I liked it until that girl asked for a cheeseburger. Don't ever disrespect me like that. I am scared now. There's definitely some good lines in it. It entertaining i because i went into it too i used to like i would consider myself a movie buff like you know like in the sense that i'd love but who got into

it late but i was like you know watched a lot of night flicks in my day um but i was going i used to watch all these trailers i really did like what i'd like try to pimp it out. So you get like 18, like discs of like a week or something like that. Like I'm watching this one in the morning. Cause it comes in and then sending the other, like I'll send it out the same, you know, the Netflix pimpin,

but I remember not watching the trailer. So I didn't know anything about it. And then it's one of them like that. That was really surprisingly good. You know? Yeah. That was cool. Um,

back to the green. You're a happy. You were going to say something about, uh, the yeah the menu yeah what was your question about that yeah it would just be funny if at food truck diaries they had a similar kind of thing like brendan's so crazy doing this shit and yeah yeah there's a setup where it's like you know and like we flew him all the way out from denver colorado we're feeding him shrimp tacos you know and he's like, you know, like we flew him all the way out from Denver, Colorado. We're feeding him shrimp tacos, you know? And he's like, and we're doing a conceptual art piece in which he is the food because he eats his opponents, you know?

Dude, that sounds like- Why did your wife leave you? Yeah. 100% he would do that. You're going to reenact your childhood. Here's baby food. That's probably what he eats now. But brain-wise.

Or soon, that's probably what he eats now but brain wise or soon that's coming he's at that function level of his brain I think if you watch him what's the worst bomb you've seen from him that's a good question I don't know if I've I've seen him like it's too hard to answer

how much time you got B I would say this, I'd say more people are like, um, if you're there to see him and it's your audience, it's a lot of things and not that that's bad or anything, but like, like, you know, maybe in compare, there was a lot of people who would come out after the shows and be like, like tell Chappelle, like sheappelle was even like, it got awkward because people would be like, he's standing next to Jay in the merch table

and people are like, you're fucking hilarious. Brendan sucks. And then walks off and Chappelle's just like standing next to his brother like. Damn, name in the waters. Name in the waters, babe. But like, I mean, legitimately Chappelle is a killer. Like a lot of people don't realize

because he's more of an introvert and he's not that flash on social media, but he is a very authentic person. And if you haven't seen him do standup, you'd be surprised. But he's really good. And he takes this really professional approach wherever I've seen his act evolve.

And he'll add little looks. He's always making small tweaks to work toward a better joke that might not be totally obvious but like he watches his own sets yeah it's better brendan doesn't right crazy yeah no i don't think he watched his entire hour set like once like he only watches things to like be like post it like is this ready to post how was he after doing the gringo poppy like the night after what was he like really excited or happy? Yeah.

In his mind, it was like crushed monumental achievement. Like, you know, we did it because it was a lot of stress to get into it. And this is kind of, I remember Brian count telling me something. He's like,

he's always been like really linear. That was the word he used. And he also said, like, he said some diplomatic things that I think I know, like, you know, even if we can't discuss it directly,

like Brian's on the same page as me, as far as seeing his faults, I may say that in a more brash way, if I'm upset with Brendan, you know,, like, you know, even if we can't discuss it directly, like Brian's on the same page as me as far as seeing his faults. I may say that in a more brash way if I'm upset with Brendan, you know, but like he gets it. He'll just kind of go out his way to be like, like I remember one line he said was something to the effect of, Brendan historically has had a difficult time seeing the human element and the work people do for him.

In other words, he treats people like appliances. Yeah. It's like, why isn't this Keurig machine working? Yeah. Throw it out. Get a new one, you know? How stupid is he really? Like, Brendan Schaub, everybody thinks he's really stupid, right?

Is it like he's just like a dumb guy? Is it safe for him to drive his kids around? Right. So I don't, I think, like like if you were to test his IQ, I don't think that would be like something exceptionally bad or something like I think he would be average or above average intelligence. Actually, but I would say,

I'd be safe to say he'd be well above average intelligence. Okay. But the same thing as like George Bush or something like that, like where people go like, oh, he got like a 1230 on his SATs or it's like that's pretty good you know out of 1600 here's the the specific commentary i'll make about that brendan is not a curious person he he has his very limited areas of interest he watches a lot of reality tv he watches like he's into like

serial killers but like a fascination with the world he does not have a fascination with the world, he does not have. A fascination with geopolitics, he does not have. A fascination with other cultures or religions or anything that really is, I would say more abstract. And I think maybe like as comedians, that tends to drop people who are more abstract and philosophical because it draws people who are like, I think my thoughts are funny on things. And I like to reflect.

And I kind of would like, like my greatest benefit to humanity is like being this sort of philosopher in a sense, if you were to broadly categorize it. I don't think Brendan has that like philosopher, you know, element in his hard drive. And so there's very little curiosity and very little self-reflection.

And I would almost consider that like, it's one of these core elements of like long-term success as a comedian is going, what do I care about? What do I think? Having metacognition, I guess that would be a really, I heard that word when describing like some of the deficits that people with personality disorders have and why it's very difficult for them to think about their own thinking, which I think you guys probably take for granted.

Like you think about your own thinking, you think about your own emotions, you can kind of take this a more objective perspective of like, you know, and I noticed it with your comedy too, like even on the show, there's an element of detachment that makes it more funny. Cause you're not just like reacting and kind of be like fucking stupid.

And you're just like, what's funny is like, you know, there's, there's a thoughtfulness that I think, you know, endows a lot of comedy just like, what's funny is like, you know, there's, there's a thoughtfulness that I think, you know, endows a lot of comedy with like, it takes the edge off of even something highly critical. It's like, you're going like, I don't even care, but this is stupid. You're not going, this is fucking stupid.

It's just, and so the lack of curiosity, the lack of self-reflection, the lack of like, if you're wrong about something, like if, you know, like I can, I can tell somebody how I've changed my political views over the years, you know, it used to be very anti second amendment. Now I would consider myself pro second amendment because I, even if I have a set, a belief about something, I still want to continue to like learn about it and challenge it. And same with lifting, even something like a deadlift. I watched beginner deadlift videos once a month, just to be like, what is there a cue there or something I'm missing? And I actually would like to like over the years,

I've changed the way I do even these very basic lifts because I always kind of whatever that quote is like have the mind of a beginner or whatever this, but it's, it's true in the sense of like the moment you think your shit don't stink or that you're an expert, you kind of calcify, you know what I mean? And I think you witness a lot of that with Brendan.

Once he thinks he has something figured out, like lifting, for example, he doesn't do anything correctly in the gym. You like, he's very strong in a lot of ways. Like his bad form. He doesn't do full pull-ups.

He doesn't do like proper, like overhead press. I've never seen him do a proper squat. Like even with like a goblet squat, he like doesn't go all the way. Like, like I could just list or it's like, everything's like a shortcut or a half-ass, but he'll tell you, dude, I grew up in the gym. It's like, yeah. Okay. I could spend the night in a computer lab every night for 10 years. It wouldn't mean I know how to code. I mean, he definitely wouldn't, he would never learn. That's crazy. Some people might but um if there was like a video of him

doing half pull-ups that would go viral as fuck yeah and not even that it's half but it's like like okay it's like what if you just kind of go to here right it's not half but like if we're if you he also gets competitive right so it's like if i'm going all the way down dead hang stop come up it's like yeah like you might be able to do 20 and I could do 12 with the same strength. Like, but you know, so little, or like if you're raising your hips off the bar when you're doing bench press, like it's all like, like individually he might go, Oh, well I don't do it. Or like he's inclined pressing and he stops like, you know, four to six inches from his chest. Now that's cool. If you feel like your shoulder hurts or something, but like a lot of times it's not that.

They just want to do more weight. People have convinced themselves, whereas I'm more of a proponent of go way lighter if you need to and actually strengthen yourself in these extreme ranges of motion. Go deeper than you need to, and that actually prepares you better. It prepares and strengthens your joints better

for doing full range barbell movements. I know I'm getting in the weeds here, and you guys don't get me. No, no, no. I mean, I have this opposite philosophy. It's like how you do something is how you do everything is what you're saying. Exactly, exactly, exactly.

And that's really, it is like I've, and contract, and I give a lot of patience to people because I've worked out with many, many people in the gym. But like, he also kind of gives off this air. As I said, he says, I grew up in the gym. Like if you try to correct him on anything, it's a no go, right? So I'm like, and and he just gives off that energy I've never had to try and not because like I'm used to people asking me if somebody could like you know I remember as a

personal trainer that kind of taught us like I used to work in a bally's in Portland in like 2007 right and they would be like go up to people and like tell them how to do a form and I've had a few people snap it like don't fucking talk to me. And it's like, all right. I like, you realize people in the gym who are doing shit wildly wrong often don't want to be told what to do at all. So I always wait for people to come to me and I'm happy to answer questions, but I also, I'm not going to go out on my own to beg. Oh, you should try doing this correctly. You know? But yeah, with him, it's like, he wasn't asking for anything. Now, a guy like Chappelle, who kind of has this more professional attitude towards lifting and almost everything he does, I think

he's a really good at like, he only does a few things in his life and people give him shit. Like he doesn't know anything. Well, he doesn't follow pop culture, but like he's into the things he's into. And we kind of became friends from working out. And I would see that like, he would look at everything I did. I barely needed to coach him. He would replicate it as much as he could. Like, like do the exact, try to do the exact same forward. Never peep out of him. Never would complain. Do every single, like he had this out of like, Oh yeah, you're like the ideal lifting partner. Cause you just do it.

Don't complain. Don't skip. And then we'll talk about it afterwards. You know, I wanted to clarify that made me think, I want to clarify something because we talked about, I think we talked about the dig picture, the dig picture joke on a previous podcast. And I didn't know that you were married at the time. So just that alone is like not okay. Right. There's like six different levels to it.

It's like saying I'm shitty at my job. Like saying that I go to Applebee's and it's like this weird, it's like the joke is like, I'm broke or I take, you know, like, right. And he kind of, he does that a lot. It's a lot of casual classes with him, both and Brian, you know, because they kind of have like, this money is better attitude.

It's like, that's great and all, but like, I never try to lose this. Like, yeah, man, I know where I came from and I never looked down on people who don't have money. That's good. I thought about it even more though. Like even if I didn't have a girlfriend, I think it would be bad because I don't send dick pics,

you know? I don't want people to think that I do. Right. Right. No, I kind of fucked up. Correct. It's like,

it's, that's another element where it's like, it puts me in a position where I have to like defend myself about something that's like essentially like potentially is me too. And, and the implication in the joke, if you really think about it is I'm going to send this dick pic and I have to ask somebody else, meaning the girl didn't ask me, look, if girls are asking to send dick pics, send away fellas, you know, but like most of the guys, most of the

mistakes guys make with dick pics is like unsolicited and any hot girl that we both, you know, y'all know, or not even hot, you don't even have to be super hot. Like women are being bombarded with dick pics all the time that they don't want and they don't like them. And it's like a girl will let you know if she wants to see that hog. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They'll let you know. They'll let you know. A lot of requests, you know, could it be a half truth? Cause it's like, he's telling people that you're sending terrible dick pics, but maybe you're sending his dick to people, right? Yeah. Right? I am sending Brendan Chubb's dick pic around.

It's your job. So you're like trying to go to sleep at 3 a.m. And he's like, Mark, I don't know how to use my phone. Mark, social. How social is doing? It's code word for something? And you're going to text some or how many things we got out in Rhode Island exactly you got real hoes man you really used it that's not cool that's and he didn't pay you which is like the worst thing yeah yeah and again not that it wasn't

like I was on but it was just like like like it was just some of the things like um for example like i was supposed to get 3k a month for tiger thick and like but then it was like time to invoice and it's like oh his manager's gonna call me up and be like oh yeah it was you and jay we're gonna get 3 000 total i'm like how did what like nobody does business like that like hey man your salary is 50k oops i meant that was you and this other guy who you don't even work like and gray wasn't really doing the social media so it was like and that was the second time it happened like i remember he promised me a thousand bucks a month for like happy hippo ad reads on my podcast you know and then it was like something like an invoice and it's like oh yeah my accountant's gonna call you and it's like yeah man oh actually five in a month it was you and chappelle combined like so it's

like the same like weird excuse you know i'm like what like but it's but then i found it in writing actually that it did say it so like you know i'm gonna i'm gonna circle back to that but a lot of weird stuff like that where it's like you said you're gonna pay me and then you didn't or like he took me off thick boy payroll like okay like and that's even what started our me getting fired was like i couldn't come in for shop show because i was with my wife in vegas and had planned to come earlier but couldn't like so and i'm sending this like oh anxiety written text like hey dude i'm so sorry i can't come in but like i texted the other guy he can cover my thing and I'm sending this like, oh, anxiety ridden text. Like, hey dude, I'm so sorry. I can't come in. But like, I texted the other guy. He can cover my thing.

And he was like, this is not good. He sent me this shitty text. I'm like, then to come to find out, like, which it wasn't necessary. It's like, dude, I already told you. I'm going to spend the rest of the day editing clips for T-Fact. Like, I'm going to put in more than an eight hour shift.

What do you want from me? But then I come to find out later, he'd already taken me off the payroll for that particular show. So I'm like, you're shitting on me and you'd already consciously taken me off the payroll for that job, that aspect of the job. And a lot of stuff like that.

There's just me and other people, if you get to know them, you'll report this financial fuckery. Yeah, that's a real betrayal. Maybe one more question, then watch some clips. Oh yeah, but with that whole thing, like is the chemistry of that the fact that it's like

you're doing business with a friend? So it's hard. No. I mean like, well yes, in the sense that like it made it awkward.

Like, like had I not get fired, I was going to have to take that on the chin. But like, this was seven months of ad reads for Happy Hippo

and it was like, oh yeah, instead of 7,000 bucks, you're going to get 3,500. Yeah. That's a significant amount. Ooh, instead of 7 000 bucks you're gonna get 3 500 yeah that's a significant amount oh instead of um three months of tiger thick that's 9 000 bucks you're gonna get 4 500 okay that's 10 000 yeah like i'm sorry that's a big amount of money to me you know like how the fuck am i gonna pay for these lip injections you know god damn but how expensive

are they just kidding yeah Should we be getting it? This is a serious question. I wanted to ask a couple questions. So first with Brian Callen, right? On the AMA I had asked, I didn't... Great guy, never met him. Great guy, never met him. I'm a huge fan of Brian Callen's

before ever getting involved with the Changs and all this stuff. Yeah, well, he is. I mean, look, he's at the craft of comedy like he knows what he's doing man exactly you know and he's and he's a student and he's thoughtful about it and he's my overarching thing about brian i may have some issues with him or we had a recent dust up he's trying to get me not to the ma and i i you know i felt like kind of like hey man stop fucking trying to convince me of this shit and but anyway like you you have to respect his craft yeah you know with the both of them i was wondering because recently with the clips from the fight companion

yeah there was some cheekiness to what's happening in the chains right i was wondering if like no when he would say i saw the unique headline video where it was like he he makes he makes a reference to the thousand paper cuts yes and i go in go in my head, I'm like, there's no way Brian did that deliberately. And then I watched a clip and I'm like, he 100% did that deliberately because he goes, yeah, death by a thousand cuts. And he goes, and I've never heard, I've never heard Brendan react like that before. I've never heard Brendan go, fuck you. It reminded me of this joke that I remember my buddy told me. And the whole point of the joke is like to extend this middle part as long as possible. But it's basically like a guy shows up to this, like, um, this circus and he's like

in the front row and a clown comes out and like, and rips on him, like does some, like, you know, like, like embarrasses him, like thoroughly in front of his date. And like the middle part is like, he goes on this like training montage to be like the funniest, like to learn like the comebacks, you know, or like, like, like, oh, you went to, he's got a black belt and like, know the jiu-jitsu of verbal combat and he's like prepares like for a year to come back and see the same clown and he goes to the the show and the guy tries to do the same thing and he goes fuck you clown but like you know you've been you've been leading up like for 20 minutes and then he goes to this school and then he goes to the academy

come back you know and it kind of felt like that because Brendan's Mr. I'll light you up, B. Fuck you! With the question and we can cut this out if you want me to but I was wondering, does that cheekiness show up outside of the show whatsoever with the allegations against Brian or Brendan's presence on the subreddit?

Oh. Do they make cheeky jokes towards each other about these things? No, Brendan wouldn't be cheeky about towards each other no no no brendan wouldn't wouldn't like be cheeky about yeah i don't think it's allegations um and also i think that was maybe off like it wasn't off limits i don't think brian would reference the subreddit because like one of the things he said to me before going on the amy he's like these are the worst people in the world. I'm like, oh, that's your perception. It's like anybody who's like has fun at Brendan's expense, mostly is like the worst person in the world.

And like, and I actually get his, like his antagonism on more on Red Bar and stuff like that. But also like, yeah, like I was there too, being like, oh my God, these guys are a psycho, you know, coming after me. But it shows you my big takeaway from seeing it up close is like, they're scared of it because they're not willing to engage with it. And I've always felt like, you know, like I'll engage with my haters and like, cause I want to know what the fuck they're

saying. If the worst you can tell me is that I'm fucking, you know, a douchebag and I have big lips and like, it's like, okay, I'm fine with that because you haven't hit on like my real insecurities. Also there's no nuance to it. It's just all one it's just all the same thing right right and that's it's like you know it signals to me that you're antagonistic to me but you know what's funny is like so many people my dms i'll see like the last message they wrote to me it's like fuck you you big lip piece of shit you know and then it's like hey man sorry about that i'm like dude i get it like so many people but it's like honestly because i'm like it didn't you can't offend me if i don't know you you know what i mean like you can you can if if I don't know you, you know what I mean? Like you can, you can, if we are close, like, and you betray me,

like that'll hurt more, but it's like a stranger talking shit about me on the internet, about my physical appearance. Like if you can't handle that, you know, you're an adult man, like grow the fuck up, you know? But a lot of, it just seems like they're kind of, they run away from that. And there are people, I don't know how Brian felt about leaning into it. I think he generally like he is trying to give Brendan a lot of notes about like, you know, even just podcasting like, Hey, let's do more. Yes. And don't shoot everything down and kind of don't be, you know, like he, but it's, it's hard.

Cause it's almost like you have to inception is that you have to like plant this idea in his head that makes him think it's his own idea to be less of an asshole, you know, like interrupt people less. Cause if somebody, the moment somebody else is telling him what to do, he doesn't like it. Cause that's what my belief in my conspiracy is that Brian is homeless, but paying rent. You know what I mean? I told Brendan about this. That's a philosophical dichotomy for the ages. You know, you have a home, but you are homeless. No, I, I don't think that's too far off and i haven't like really probed his mentality because i think he is diplomatic and he he does have a lot of loyalty to brendan and i think a lot of times for good reason but like

like what you're saying is i could answer like this would he get the humor and a lot of the jokes you're making about brendan of course yeah you know I just don't know I don't think he's checking it out because people like even when I like you know I would go on the separate I wouldn't I'd be like I don't want to go like just go like see people shit on me for no reason like so it's it's like it's not fun like unless unless it's like you know like they kind of set up a system like other people are checking on there like I'm sure people are reading it right now like his you know like his like you know another guy who works there is like hey man could you like not take that down like it has my name oh my bad I don Like his, you know, like, like, you know, another guy who works there is like, Hey man, could you like not take that down? Like, how's my name? Oh, I'm bad. I don't want to, you know, but like, I know somebody who's paying attention to it, but, but I, my assumption is the way Brendan likes to have feedback is kind of like,

give me the cliff notes of the cliff notes, you know, and also make them all positive. So like, unless it's like a true emergency, that's going to like ruin my life unless I deal with it right now. It's like, I just kind of want to like, Hey, give me a, give me a, you know, a steady leak of like positive tidbits for my narcissistic supply. It must be hard to find that though. You know? Often it is. Yeah. And I've actually talked to, you know, Gianni Paolo who used to run his social media. Like we commiserated, you know,

we like we typed in socials to both our phones, like how social, like he's been using the same phrase multiple times a day for years. How socials to both our phones. Like, how social? Like, he's been using the same phrase multiple times a day for years. How social, fellas? How social, fellas? Sometimes we'll just text each other. Hey, Johnny, how socials? In what way?

Well, it's just like, there's no interest in it, really. It's just like copy-paste how socials. Correct, because I go like, I would be so much more specific if I was in his position. Yeah, like, what are we trying to work towards on socials? Correct.

What are we doing? Right, right, exactly. No, I couldn't agree more because there's some really smart guys on Chang's who are like, no social media strategy or no analytics. And they're like, this doesn't make any sense from a strategic perspective. If you're trying to be like, I'm not on social media,

but you check in multiple times a day. My analogy is like, I don't eat ice cream. I just pay my assistant to shovel it in my face. And my mouth happens to be there as the ice cream falls off the spoon, but I don't eat ice cream. Somebody else feeds it to me, you know, it's totally different. Um, but it's like, no, no, no, you're on social media and you're addicted to it just by proxy, you know? And, and it doesn't make any sense because like, you're not on it. So you can focus on other things. If you're worrying about it all day, you seems like you spend a lot more time worrying about likes and comments than you do about writing new jokes, you know, so keep that same energy. Yeah. So, uh, on that topic of the,

uh, socials, I was wondering personally with the iMessage group chat, who named it operation tiger thick? Uh, I believe Brendan. That's awesome. That's what, that was the answer I wanted. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So back to the original line of questioning here with Brian and Brendan. That's awesome. That's what, that was the answer I wanted. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So back to the original line of questioning here with Brian and Brendan. Yeah. I think we already touched on Brian becoming homeless. I'm, I'm praying for it.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Um, a little bit hard to see from you as long as like, unless they have a big falling out, which like, look, Brendan pushes their friendship to the limit.

Okay. Like, cause Brian's a pretty agreeable guy. Like he's a pretty, like he's a reasonable guy. Anytime we've here's what I would say, like, is one of the biggest differences between these two guys. A couple of times we've had like an argument in text and you get context loss. Like maybe you type in all caps and I'm like, dude, why are you, why are you getting upset? You know, something like that. Cause technically he is my boss. Like in the terms of like, I work for Keef at K so, you know, yeah. And technically he is my boss like in the terms of like i work for kifak so the hierarchy you know yeah and i'm a little bit more like if somebody disrespects me

like i don't give a fuck who you are like like i i'm a i consider myself a good employee but it's like hey we're not doing that we're not screaming at me over text you know um and but to his credit the very few times that happened next time i saw him he'd be like he'd make sure to talk to me privately and be like, hey man, like I didn't like how that came across and I just wanted to let you know, like that wasn't my intention. And like, he gives me,

and that's what I like to do to people where it's like, I'm not just gonna be like, hey man, sorry about that, moving on. I'll be like, here's where I'm coming from. I'm gonna offer you an apology. You don't have to take it, you know? But like, that goes a really long way with me and demonstrates a lot of maturity

and a desire to like be a better person. Yeah. And Brendan, he can't take solo accountability. He'll be like, man, I just, it's been really tough between us.

It's like, what you did to me, you know, like, or like, he'll go, I don't like how things went down. I don't like this tension between us.

It's never, I did something wrong. It's always like, and if it is, I call it his fake accountability. You know, like in this tiger thick group chat that maybe you read, it was like, like, no man, that's on me. Like I should have known you guys weren't going to do it or something like that. I'm like, no, you're fake accountability. What do you mean? It means you're going, oh yeah, it's on me that you guys are so stupid and incompetent. I should have known. It's like, it's not on you because you, you, you're claiming you pay us to do something. You expressed a, you know, an expectation after we couldn't have gone back and done it and acted like we're

stupid idiots. He never hits the hammer on the head. Yeah. Never does it. So, um, with, uh, Brian, right. If there's one thing that you could tell Brian, like the best part about becoming homeless, what would that thing be? Um, the best part, and this is kind of like, this is what it came down to because he was on the phone with me going like his, and I don't, I'm not saying this is insincere. And when I first picked up, I was kind of like, cause I didn't want to talk to him. I was like, I feel like you're trying to convince me of something like part of me was like, is Brian, is Brendan in the car, like over here in this, I don't know. But like, and he, he assured me that he wouldn't talk to Brendan about it, but then somehow that

conversation got leaked to him that like, you know, cause it like on the AMA holes or MMA holes, they were like, and you were screaming at Brian. And like, luckily my wife was there to like it's like screaming. I was talking like this. Here's what I said. Hey dude, Brendan is a narcissistic asshole who lies to people and defames them behind their back. That's not the kind of guy that I feel any sort of loyalty to protect his, his nature. Now, like, yeah, I said something like that. And then it was like, click, you know, have you heard me scream? Like, like if I'm screaming at you, you better fucking be like, ah, you know, so I've never seen the lion in the planes, you know? So I, I really, I don't like it when people exaggerate like that to, to, because what's

the goal there to make me look unhinged. Like, Oh, Mark was crazy. Like, no, no, no. I talked to you for 40 minutes and you weren't hearing a single thing I said. And finally, when you reframed it, you kept framing like, Mark, you're seeking revenge. Like you need to think about the fact that this like karmically and philosophically, and if you go for revenge, dig two graves, one for yourself. It's like, shut the fuck up. My analogy is, this ain't revenge. This is me discussing something that happened to me,

and it's therapeutic. You know, this isn't me going to fucking slash his tires or something. You know? Like, if somebody were to, like, hack into his Twitter account and post something on that, like, that would be revenge. But, like, this, you know, like, they just do an AMA. Like, you know, I'm going to be a crazy person with that. Yeah.

Imagine for it, like how pathetic that is that Brian and Shab reached out to some, no offense to MMA holes, but just some random guy in Arizona. But like, hey man, he's just a YouTube dude. I think he, I assume actually, if we give him the benefit of the doubt, that he reached out to them for comment

because he was trying to be like journalistically. And we don't do that. Right, right, right. Well, no, I mean, it is true. Like there is a difference if you're trying to do entertainment versus, now the guy, I thought the guy did a good job of like even saying like,

yeah, I've made fun of Gringo Papi when I was staying neutral. And he would kind of just like, he'd tee me up, let me talk. And he wasn't going like, oh yeah, that's crazy. Like, tell me more. He would just let me answer. And he wasn't going like, oh yeah, that's crazy. Like, tell me more. He would just let me answer. And I'm glad he did give me the other side of the story.

Because I had actually, one of the reasons I started talking about it in the first place was I go, Brendan hasn't said anything yet, but every time I've seen somebody leave his life, every time, 100% of the time, he bad mouths them with false claims after the fact and really revises history in a lot of ways. And so I could kind of anticipate, I'm like, I know this is going to happen. So it's almost like preemptively, I have to get it out there

because I know he's either doing it behind my back or he's going to do it. And of course, that turns out to be true. He made like eight different claims about me not coming into work. Yeah. Okay. Like, you know, and being late, what were my hours then? You know what I mean? Like all this, like every, everything, right, right. It's like, yeah, I could come in late, but like, also I have a, you know, I might have a recording of a phone call where he, or a, you know, in-person discussion where he said I could work remotely. So, you know, even that it's like, yeah, if I get up and start editing at eight and it'll come into 11 to the studio to do something like, well, that mean I'm not working and you even okayed that, but then it's a big deal. So

every claim he made, you saw me kind of get worked up on the show, but it was like, it is, it's when you're not expecting it. And somebody is like, Hey man, it's, is it true that like, you know, you beat your wife and it's like, what? Like, no fucking, you know, she's saying that, you know, like it's, it's a, it's, it does get you riled up. And to go back to your actual question about Brian, because of the financial situation, like, you know, he does seem to make a lot of money from TV. Okay. I don't know how much longer the show's going to last or whatever, but I know Brendan privately has expressed interest in, he's like, like things will be tense between them. And Brendan kind of has this card of like,

well, I don't even know if I want to do the show anymore. And it's like, well, you'd be losing money too. Right. Yeah. You know,

Brendan, if you're watching this, suing Mark is a bad idea for an NDA thing. Cause you'll have to pay. Mark can sue you right back for free. Yeah. Or wage and hour violations. You moron. that's a very

good point and you know if i were to have like if i were to have like labor attorney friends who i've been speaking to like you know they might say things like oh that's a terrible idea you don't know that oh really oh really dude no so that's why you know more than you think that's why that's why i felt emboldened by this i didn't even look at my nda because i'm like first of all like you know i double fucking dare you to sue me over telling exactly what happened to me because you're a piece of shit. You know how terrible that would look. And that's part of how he spoiled his own reputation.

It's going after this unique guy. Right. Then the headline becomes Brendan Schaub sues small YouTuber over joke. It's the worst headline you could possibly write about a comedian, like short of sexual allegations. Yeah. That would be, you know,

take that off the table. This is the worst headline you could ever have. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yep. All right. 100%. And then the last question is,

and this answer could just be no, because it's typically on Chang's to this question, the answer is no. Yeah. But- How many chicks I fucked? Yeah, yeah, real quick, real quick. How many chicks I fucked?

No. Mark texted me that. That's like the first thing you text. I, I, when I earned it or I DMG and I look at my phone like a little bit later and it says, Hey,

real quick, be so hard. But you know, if you were to put your Dr. Strange hat on, is there any possibility of a redemption arc for Mr. Brenda? Yeah. Like, like I can't say that would be impossible,

but it would be predicated on humbling himself in certain ways that I just, like from everything I know about the personality style that I'm describing that I believe he has, it would contradict all of that. And I think like there would be multiple steps in the way of like awareness of the issue, which is very unlikely for a narcissist and then pursuit of help for the issue. Like something major would have to force him into that. Like some mechanistically would be like, well, you have to go to therapy and you have

to come out the other end. And there has to be like proof of the fact that you have shown an ability to take, you know, take accountability. So like, it's possible, but the steps would be sort of learning how to take ownership, apologizing to people, not being obsessed with sort of like power and control over almost everything else.

Because again, one of the reasons I was fired was like, he prioritized like me not texting him back over me doing like five times more work than he actually expected. So I wanted like, I kind of, you know, I knew I was risking getting fired, but I want to be like, oh, okay. Hey, look at what I just did over here.

We have like, you know, five times as many reels as you'd normally expect from any other editor. I worked all night to do it. You're going to ignore that fact and be like, you didn't text me back for three hours. And I was like, oh, and you just like, you know, you succumb to the worst expectations of you as a human being. I think, yeah, with having the position he has of trying to start a company

and making it bigger and bigger growth, he kind of just carries a hammer and looks for it bigger and bigger growth. He kind of just carries a hammer and looks for nails that aren't there. That's a, that's an amazing way to put it because I've always said like his leadership style, like, I don't think people realize like, um, you know, if you were to get an MBA, you'd study leadership styles and there's all these different styles and like the best leaders take different approaches with different people in different scenarios. The guy who's like the fake alpha male, which I do, you know, like I like to do like the faux narcissism joke and kind of like pretend like I'm like a guy who's like, thinks he's in charge. Like that's a funny

character to me, but like, I just know, and I've always known I'm not the guy who always looks to be in charge. And when you get somebody like that, um, and they, they tend to be sort of narcissistic and maybe psychopathic or something like that, but like they, they, they don't develop a lot of leadership styles. They kind of use this like bullying tactic or condescension or fear. There's like a very limited palette of, of leadership techniques that they use. And that always runs people dry. You know what I mean? You can't always do this kind of like, get on my level, let's go, let's do better. You're fucking up. Like you're going to get fired.

And that's kind of like, almost like you could summarize his leadership style in those five terms. There's very little like positive long-term vision. There's very little encouragement. He micromanages, but doesn't know like how even to micromanage. You're like, one thing if I knew how to edit

and I'm editing, you know, micromanaging is you. It's one thing to be like, where is it? Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? No, no, no. Like, you know? Yeah. So, yeah.

And also like you said earlier, if you could talk to Brendan, if he's watching this right now, I would say, continue what you're doing. I love Brendan Chobb, but please, if you do standup comedy, make it a segment on a podcast, stick to podcasting. And that's that, right? Well, yeah. And I think that's going to be another gringo poppy 2 yeah i want a gringo poppy 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 like avatar they're hilarious

not on purpose god you know that actually would be a really good idea because you'd get so much more like like yeah like imagine the response if he unironic it was just like gringo poppy 2 yeah that's i mean one of my specials gringo poppy too yeah that's i mean especially his gringo poppy three amazing you keep watching it's like sharknado or yeah yeah like there's there's an avenue to lean into this but that's also predicated on like yeah complete self-awareness to realize like oh there's a meta thing going on that people would really enjoy but you'd be like but like come on the level of abstract thought you need to like pull off a troll you're not bo burnham you know like the pinnacle of abstract.

I know. But like makes me think of when he's doing his stand, he accidentally knocks over the water and he's like, and this is a lot. Like he does some little tricks. I'm like, I like that kind of stuff and I'm tickled by it. But you have to have this forethought of like, you know. Bo Burnham. Bo Burnham would be inside instead of inside. Well, Poppy three.

Do you want to watch some clips? Yeah. Are you want to watch some clips? Yeah, are you down to watch some clips? Yeah, I love clips. Clips are some of my favorite things. The first clip we have is called Rinks References the Tony Hinchclip and Steve-O Papercuts Joke and Baba Don't Take Too Kindly posted by Lost Psych. Emmett, Emmett, if he connects you go to sleep

and then you're here. Death by a thousand cuts. Do I need to smirk and break? Because I would like or death by a thousand cuts? The way that he smirks and breaks, because I would like, I wouldn't, up until that moment where he breaks, I wouldn't, I would have been like, oh, he was just said that randomly

because it's like, it's a common enough phrase. Yeah. Yeah, no, he nailed it. That's like that dog meme where the dog tells a joke. He's saving that up. He made,

yeah, there may be some homeless. And what that tells you is because normally Brendan's excuse is like, I don't see anything. I don't even know what the joke is. Like, how could I be in on the joke? If I don't know the joke,

him saying, fuck you means they've discussed this. And Brian knows that Brendan knows. And so Brendan is aware that Steve-O and Tony Hinchcliffe, who he has like a weird issue with like i mean he thinks steve's like you know he makes fun of steve-o behind his back he's like the guy doesn't do stand-up he does like a powerpoint presentation and it sucks and you're like again oh i'm not saying anything new any if you're a comic brendan talks shit about you if you've met brendan and you're a comic you know aside from maybe like tom segura north star you know or or anybody else but it's, you know, aside from maybe like Tom Segura, Northstar, you know, or anybody else. But it's like, you know,

you could be fucking Joe Rogan and he does a TED talk, you know, it's like, everything's like, he'll find a way to, you know, the mental acrobatics that he does in order to dismiss other people who are more successful than him is astounding. But Tony Hinchcliffe is one of these guys

who was like, you know, I don't want that life. Like, oh, you can't even sell tickets. He's opening for Rogan or whatever. It's like, hey, yeah, yeah. What a shitty life, Tony. You know, it's podcast crushing it. I think it's what I've ever done. Yeah, he has't want that life. Like, Oh, you can't even sell tickets. He's opening for Rogan or whatever. It's like, Hey, yeah, yeah. What a shitty life,

Tony. You know, it's podcast crushing it. I think it's a pretty good life. Yeah. Yeah. Like, and he's an amazing comedian.

Water's name be talks about you. Yeah. No, you can just guarantee it. Like, even if you're his best friend, if there's a way to dismiss you, you know,

if you're Trevor Wallace, he'll be like, Oh yeah, he sells a bunch of tickets, but like the young people to show don't buy enough drinks and food. It's like, really dude. What a strange insult. No, really. Like it's like, I'm just telling you like that's,

it's that level. And then like, you know, one of the editors used to work for Brendan. He was one of the first to get good douched out of the thick boy squad, like moved him out here. And then he just like fired him for the shittiest reason. Again, Kyle's dope. He's a little bit like, he can be a little bit testy. That's the only, but like that I, now I see him like, Oh yeah, Brandon makes you testy, you know, like it's possible not to be, but he's on tour with,

with Trevor Wallace. And he's like, Oh yeah, it's great, dude. The guy's like, he gives you a schedule, you know, you know, when you're working, when you're not, and he's super nice. And I've met Trevor many times and he just, you know, he's been nothing but nice to me. And he seems like a nice guy. Yeah. So, but it's like, even on like even on that level like i think he's a great example of like how to use social media to drive your stand-up you know what i mean like his his sketches are really good but they're different like and he does these characters you know so i'm like right study trevor wall you want to look at like internet marketing yeah you know do that yeah i probably for sure have made fun of trevor wallace behind his back but yeah yeah so I doesn't even know who I am

but he definitely thinks I'm gay right right yeah yeah you can count on that and I just mean like yeah like think of what you want for for Trevor Wallace as a comedian like and I think he's funny but I'm just going like you can be that guy I think by all objective standards he's for 30 years old he's crushing it you know and but to turn it into like well he doesn't sell enough food right right yeah i'm sure that's the number one complaint that wouldn't be my credit sold out theater that he just did yeah yeah yeah no that guy's crushing all right so this next one is posted by sprout cobain and it's called the ultimate sacrifice long live pf changs i enjoyed this one Look at that redacted face. That makes sense.

I can't talk. You seem really upset. Obviously. Oh my God. Be of chance. Be of chance. Be of chance. Be of chance.

Sorry for your loss. Sorry for your loss. My goodness. I think I saw that clip before without the audio because I was like, oh, I've seen this before. And then the fucking, the clips that they used for each little moment there was so good. And I also love that they used that.

That picture of me was taken by this guy who had this whole lighting setup and then he like, like, you know, Photoshop the shit out of my face to make it look all high. You know, so it's like a kind of, it's an interesting picture, but.

I think you shouldn't be redacted anymore. I don't know. I think show Mark's face. Show Mark's face. I mean, I'm open. Mark rules. You guys rule. No, it's been actually really cool.

I don't know if that's true. This is one of the, it's really fun. Just like, you know, because we're all connecting via this idea of like, we see the same, you see this plant's green, right? Yeah, I know for a while I was saying it was red, but I was a retard. And, you know, it is in fact green. Sorry. Oh my God, that's so funny.

All right, so this next one is called, decided to put an apron on for the first time in months. God dog, this podcast is dead. Posted by Toronto Rapture. But he wasn't willing to talk about the 40 million people that Stalin starved and killed. And he said, that's not true. What the forced collectivization,

except for every historian would disagree. Oh no. He's an economist. Well, that's like when people say, look at the things Hitler did. It's like, sure. Like Volkswagen, Porsche, he built all that, economist. Well, that's like when people say, look at the things Hitler did. It's like, sure. Like Volkswagen, Porsche,

he built all that, right? Well, he didn't, but the German war machine, it was, he planted the seed to get it going, put the funds to get it going with Volkswagen and Porsche,

right? And Mercedes and all that. And then given Hugo boss, the opportunity to build the uniform, right? So he purchased all these careers. Consensus is being clipped in real time.

He's like, Brendan defending Hitler's genius. And like, it's not like what he's saying is necessarily anti-factual,

but like, unless you're a World War II professor, like, and I'm going to this lecture about like, like Hitler's entire life, like,

you don't need to highlight that you know what i mean of course and it also was gonna talk about hitler you're talking about stalin but also hitler let's talk about how smart he was like what that's the thing you know and you're like you're sitting on yourself man it's like why are you thinking so much about how awesome hitler is that's the thing with these clips they make you redacted right i didn't even notice that it goes well it goes on way too long and you're like do you not read the room that's the thing with these clips they make you redacted right i didn't even notice that it goes well it goes on way too long and you're like do you not read the room that's like self-awareness

right i've just got like he makes other people uncomfortable and they're just going like brian's literally going like he wants to disappear from that room he wants to teleport the fuck out of there like nightcrawler he was talking about Stalin yeah yeah yeah Hitler did a bunch of bad things yeah yeah yeah it's just the weirdest he has this Trumpian word salad thing

thing to thing to thing to thing and it's like it's a thing to be held because you watch this tangential thinking in real time where it's obviously surprising but you go imagine being in the room thing to be held because you watch this like tangential thinking in real time where you know it's it's obviously surprising but you go imagine being in the room trying to have a conversation with him and you know what's great is this long conversation we had about brendan shop's character

and talking about the lack of curiosity and whatnot yeah it peaks in the worst moments his curiosity right yeah right i don't know what hitler made. I do not know what Hitler made. I don't know if he made Hugo Boss. Why does Schaub know that? Yeah, and there are some interesting things about, and I'm fascinated by the guy, but there's many other angles that I would take. Off a podcast, though.

Schaub's only learning about what Hitler did. He didn't. If I was looking at his personal achievements, I'd be like, I'd look at more of his architectural designs, which he actually drew himself, but it's like, he didn't make Volkswagen. He told some people to do it or put money, you know, whatever it is. It's like, yeah, like, like Obama, you know, or like, like did George Bush like drop bombs in Iraq? No, he just said like, do it, you know? Yeah. Just because companies happen to be started at that time. Doesn't mean that Naziism.

He was doing a good card. Who is this guy? He's a Navy's a navy seal i guess there's one clipper he like he's been through so much no you idiot like i like what other people who kind of don't they don't like they don't subscribe to the bop averse you know because they kind of to be in his orbit you kind of like uh like if i want to like not have it be weird later i kind of have to be nice to him but other people like i'm just dropping in for the day. I'm Howie, you know, like, are you stupid? I can get back to this. None of that matters. What he did outweighs all

that, you know? But you can hang on those things and try and prove to I don't know who that he's a good guy. Yeah, Broken Clock is right twice a day. I would love to hear Brian's thoughts. Not if it's digital, buddy. Because it's just not on?

Yeah, then it just doesn't work. What is happening? I think he's trying to gently mock Brendan. You know, not if it's digital. Yeah. There's a lot of clips of you, so I got to like... Dude, I'm so popular. It's like, why are you so obsessed with me?

This one's called Thig Boy Stewss posted by Rogan and Shorty Pie. Oh, nice. He's the star of the show, really. Yeah, I know. Absolutely. Here we go. We are here at Thig Boy Stews in Calabasas, California. A nice winter stew. I sautéed the beef and then I added the carrots.

Weekend, fam. Quite the weekend for the fight fans and football fans. You had Super Bowl weekend. Hope you all enjoyed that Super Bowl. Patrick Mahoney's doing the damn thing. Do you like how also he's podcasting? He's like this. It's like a solo podcast and he's like,

anyway, people played football this weekend. It was cool. Anyways. Is someone forcing him to do this? Yeah. He's like, I don't really want to be here, but I was using. Anyways. Is someone forcing him to do this? Yeah. He's like, I don't really want to be here, but I was using the inflection or something. He's excited.

I'm on Kratom. Patrick Mahoney. Patrick Mahoney. Who is that? It's not a person. Nobody's going to correct me because I rule with an iron fist. Why are you if you told me New England's a state? There are times with Bapa where it seems like they've just taken a dad

from his family and been like, you have a podcast. You do your shit. Like right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's a shirt. Also, is the leg room being conscious? Dude, I noticed it a while ago. I was like,

first of all, I don't know, maybe because my legs are huge, but I don't like crossing my legs so like you're not gonna catch me you know this already feels uncomfortable and then just to be like yeah it's like always like looks like sexual you know what I mean I'm like what is going on like and I get it because sometimes like I'll have a sore peck or something like oh I want to massage it out but it's like he's not massaging he's just like self-soothing yeah right I have to imagine it's like, he's not massaging. He's just like self-soothing. I don't know. I have to imagine it's some sort of stress reaction. Some sort of like comfort or something.

I don't know. Yeah, it's like thumb sucking. Yeah. Since he, you know, made a dent in the roof of his mouth, you know, sucking his thumb, I guess he's got to do this now. How shocked would you be if you found out, you know, if you like walked in and I'm sleeping and he's like. What? That was a joke. I don't suck my thumb he's like it would be disturbing to see but not yeah you're like oh of course yeah i mean like i kind of thought that this this this track that would be meg flicks and then you also had the big ufc 284

um i mean the main event and uf UFC 284 delivered and the Super Bowl delivered. So, can't be mad at any of it unless you're a Philadelphia Eagles fan or you're an Alexander Wilkinowski fan. Okay, there's nothing really much there. He nailed the end. Stick the landing. Philadelphia Eagles fan.

It was like, Philadelphia Eagles fan. This one's called It was like some random other, you know? Mr. Off Philadelphia Eagle, man. This one's called Sklob Leaves His Own Show 20 Minutes Before It Ends, posted by Roganis Shorty Pie. If you were- Can we pause for a second?

I have to go. You gotta go. Yeah, I gotta do this other show at two. Oh, I got you. Can you guys finish it though? Don't finish early, you're great in. You can sit in my seat. You're not great.

You're leaving. Yeah, I know. I'm never coming back seat. You're not great. You're leaving. I'm never coming back. No, but I'm telling you, this guy's a woke fuck over here. What the fuck, dude? You're kidding. Not kidding. Come on.

We have 15 minutes. Is it cock bag? Cock bag. Yeah, you're a cock of bags. It would be a bag of cocks, but I appreciate you. He's got to be somewhere, too. I know where you're going. All right. Go do your best, brother. It's like, please just leave. All right. Take it easy, Mr. He's got to be somewhere too. I know where you're going. Go to your best brother.

It's like, please just leave. Take it easy, Mr. We're solving the gun control problem. The Navy still is better than in my comment. Yeah, they couldn't. No, I know it's funny, right? Because you kind of, it's like he, I wouldn't, I'd feel like more self-conscious about criticizing somebody's comedy, except like you've probably seen these famous moments

where he's like, oh, you really laughed at that Andrew Tate joke? Like, well, there's two comics. Like he likes to flex a lot to me and other people like, well, professional comic, you don't know anything about humor. And it's like, well, you know,

I think there are funny people out there who don't necessarily do stand-up comedy and wouldn't like have as arrogant of an attitude about it. And to that I say, okay Mr. Whole Foods. Do you think those are toe holes he's got on in the Navy SEAL? Probably not.

Did he? Has he ever, has Brian ever given you toe holes? No, and funny enough I'm in contact with the owner of it, AG, who's a really cool guy. Um, I haven't asked for them. I actually would wear sandals. Cause like Brendan has this whole like anti-sandals. I'm like, yeah, but they're comfortable. I got bad feet. Oh really? That's why I don't. Have you, have you never worn sandals in your life? Um, not often. My feet are

gross. I just really liked when I come in and out of a house. Like they're just, to me, they come in handy a lot. Like maybe sure. Like maybe you don't want to see them on a show or whatever, but anybody with arbitrary fashion standards where it's like, you can't do this. It's just like, fuck all the way off, man. You're a jean and a t-shirt guy, right? Some people are kind of like, it's cool if you want to dress a certain way,

but if you're enforcing your fashion on me, it goes down a weird path. I'm like, so you're uncomfortable with how I look to you when I'm around you or what, you know? Right, right, right. Yeah.

I'm more of a sand. Well, not a sand, like a slippers guy. Yeah. Yeah. You just got to have those comfy shoes. Vans,

boat shoes, that kind of thing. All right. So the last clip we have here is posted by Rogan and Shorty Pie. It's called Togan and Eddie take a sandy break. So Rinks scoob immediately start talking about digs and plug in their dates i don't know against connor and michael channel is my boy i'm not picking i get it i'm rogan right i get it i don't pick but i know it's all i don't pick but i'm gonna make you i'm gonna ask you a question i'm pulling joe rogan i'll pick let me ask you one more time sure first of all eight inches

first of all if you're in New York. He does that joke so much. He really does. I've seen him do it in the room multiple times where it's like, Jesus Christ, if you have to fucking repeat that your dick is eight inches fucking,

you know, every time you have any chance to reference it, probably not that big because you'd be saying it's 12 if it was eight. So now you work. You know how a boppa math works. Yeah. I guess it's a positive.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I meant me and somebody else's dick combined was 8 inches. Part 11, I'm a Sony home. That doesn't matter. How dare you do that right now? That was a commercial. Because I'm in Naples next weekend, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Naples.

Okay. Look at him. He's like, no. Okay. I'm just saying. All right. Okay. Hold on.

Here's my question. The camera's pointed. Go to the head. Here's my question. Wow. Just plugging dates whenever they can, dude. Jesus Christ. I know it's also funny because I go, does it matter at that point?

How many tickets are you going to sell? How many people from Naples, Florida are watching that broadcast and also are big enough fans of you to not know that you're going to be in Naples. You know what I mean? It's like,

if I got any shit from Joe Rogan on his podcast, I was like, you'd never hear me plug a single fucking thing again. I swear to you like, cause I just like,

I'm not trying to get caught and be the butt of a joke about plugging shit when you really go, what am I, am I selling any extra tickets from that plug? If I have a million followers. And also the zeitgeist knows that you guys plug too much.

It's like, right. It's like, you know, so yeah, I wouldn't even watch how much you do it. Cause it's not really entertaining to do. Correct.

It's, it's for the people. Yes. And I just think, yeah, it's, I mean, you're like,

you're like fake leaning into it. It's like, ah, I'm going to plug you, you know, but it's like, but you're doing it and seriously,

you're trying to cover it as a joke. Yeah, it's going to lead to a Reddit gadouche. The only thing we're plugging is Brendan Walsh's World Record Pod

right there. yeah, yeah, yeah, and Thick Boy. Thick Boy, yeah. And T-Pack K.

Yeah. But yeah, that's it for clips. Hell yeah. All right, man. Well, thank you so much

for joining us. Thank you guys for having me. This was really man. Well, thank you so much for joining. Thank you guys for having me. This is really fun. Sorry. I'm saying, this is fun. This is really fun.

You unzip and you're shot up. Thank you so much. You know, correct pronunciations for a while. Yeah, no chance. Yeah. You know,

I had, I had a speech pathologist, you know, in a microphone. So no, I, it was a lot of fun. I really enjoy your guys' show. I love the approach you take to roasting the Bompiverse. And so it was great to be able to come on.

Awesome. So only one thing, only one word would end this appropriately, I think, which is, this was Negflix. Negflix. Some would say the Negflixiest. Yeah. And plugging.

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