2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer - Ep. 83 | 2 Bears 1 Cave w/ Tom Segura & Ethan Klein

Episode Date: May 31, 2021

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People who want to watch boxing don't want to watch Justin Bieber perform, you know what I mean? Like the crowd, so they hire like I think they're just hemorrhaging money. They could be. Trillers hemorrhaging money. It's poorly managed. But the app is shitty. I'm going in now. Okay. Okay. I just want to shit on them a little bit. A little bit, okay. Yeah. 100% B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b Big Five Birds in Serbia. Um, shooting his movie.

Yeah, I was wondering, I came in and, um, I guess you guys have been rotating out like funnier comedians. I understand the show has been doing better since he's been gone. It's been doing really well, right? And you'll notice that people are like, like in the comments, they're like, fucking love this thing now. Like, this is such a fun concept. Yeah, and they're like,

this is really cool to see just people we like in the seat, and the energy, the humor, the fun, there's a fun show now. And before everybody was like, oh, you're like, like, birds over, tons. Yeah, and he just,

what do they say about him? Yeah, he's loud, and he has this stream of conscious, like he can, birds. Talks over, talk. Yeah, and he just, what do they say about him? Yeah, he's loud, and he has like this stream of conscious, like he can't focus. He smells him through the TV. You can smell him, and he's fucking dogs, and... You know what I said, it's genuinely though, like I'm happy for Bert, but like what is the chance? Yeah.

That Bert actually makes a good movie. Like, let's be honest. I mean, that's a good audience back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and, and, and, well, you hit it on that. I mean, like, first of all, comedians don't have the best track record of like, I'm going overseas to do this. Yeah.

No, exciting thing. I know, I know. And then it's B burnt on top of that. Right. It's like really sending a short bus over the Atlantic, you know? The short train? The short ship? No, I mean, here's the thing.

It's the best chance that you could have. What he has. It's the best opportunity. Yeah. Like, you know, it's a ridiculous hilarious has. It's the best opportunity. Yeah. You know, it's a ridiculous hilarious story. He's got a great team. I think with filmmaking, the only thing you end up realizing over time

is that it is about the team you put in place. And if you don't put... He's got good people. He's got, yeah, like producers, like producers, a great Peter Tensyo directing, you know, Mark Hamill playing is like, you guys have more so around yourself with as many good people as we can.

And then you just have to go like, you know, we tried. Right. You know, there's also great films that commercially don't do well. Then there's movies that commercially do well that are garbage like, this is all, who the fucking knows, right? You never know. You're just not commercially do well that are garbage. Like, this is all, who the fucking knows, right? Like, you never know. You're just not gonna do well.

No. I just say, I listen, I'm gonna watch it. Yeah, of course. Hey, and I'm encouraging everyone to watch it. Yeah, but you don't think it'll do well. But it's because he's fat or why? No, I'm just kidding. Oh, okay, I'm just playing around.

I think I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, I think it'll be really funny. And it's gonna be funny to watch. It's gonna be interesting. Mark Hamill. Watch Bert have a sex scene. It's gonna be a movie. Oh, Mark, what?

Bert? Bert has a... Oh, like Bert and Mark, fuck. No, no, I says, well, yeah. So the whole movie is... And Edgy, that's unexpected. This, you know what, it's an old Serbian tale. So what happens is whenever a father,

when he brings his son turns 18, you're supposed to introduce him to manhood by having sex with your son. So that's a old, that's what they do in Serbia. That's what they do in Serbia. So it's a gay porn up, pornography. Kind of what happens is he resents

that his father never did that when he was 18. So they take a trip there. Yeah, they take a trip there. And then his dad, his dad, Mark Hamelfuck, and then there. Yeah, they take a trip there. And then his dad, his dad, Mark Hamelfuck, and then he's like, now you're a man. And then he dies. But I don't want to give away the movie,

but I just know he cries while having sex with his body. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One more time. Wow, that sounds fun. Dude, we just wrote an awesome movie together right now. Yeah, we just need good people to put it together. That's all we need. It is good to see you, man. I haven't seen you in a long time.

I know you guys moved to Texas. I know, and then I flew back here. Maybe a little bit sad a day later. Yeah, but we used to see you guys regularly. I mean, as a family, we'd get together with our kids. I know, it's like, I... Yeah, you guys left us in the trenches here in Los Angeles, and you moved to beautiful paradise.

Is it paradise in Texas, be honest with me? I'll tell you that I really, really dig off in a lot. I really like it. I mean, I like the community, the culture there. I mean, I've just only lived there a few days, but. Oh, really? Yeah, I just, I call it week or something, let's remember. Yeah, oh less.

Yeah, but I spent a lot of time going there before, but now I have a home there, but I just, I really, I don't know, man, I even like, why did you, why, why, why did you go there? Honestly, Jews, man. They're just like this city. I've just done Jews in Texas. Yeah, and they're like, you know what I mean?

I'm like, this feels right, you know? We'll get there. Yeah. We're coming for your neighborhood. You know, I'll have to move again. I don't mean to have to find a news. You're gonna end up in like, you're just gonna be running from the Jews your whole life, my whole life. That's what I've been doing my whole life. You're right. No, it was, I mean, it was like a series of things. I feel like 2020 put like, I don't know, just different ideas in your head that you've never considered before. Like, the craziest thing is that I would never have considered leaving LA. Like, I entertained the idea of I always wanted to go to Denver. I love Denver. And,

you know, whenever I did a weekend, there's something I would get home and bring it up. And Christina would respond or react in a way of like, yeah, that's cool, but like, you know, we're not going to do that, right? And I'll be like, yeah, okay. And then she's also such an Angelino and so, like, you know, I mean, like prideful, like I'm LA till I die. You're like, all right. And then you know, if you're in a marriage, you just kind of accept that. You're like, well, that's just what we're going to do. So you gave it the ultimatum? No. I, to go like, you see how many Jews are in that? No, so she's like, when we started to entertain the idea of like, okay, there's like,

this is a very business-friendly state. This is a state with zero state income tax. This is a state where we, the majority, in a normal year, the majority of our time is spent traveling. And the idea of year, the majority of our time is spent traveling. And the idea of traveling from the middle of the country to like basically start doing two hour flights instead of five and six hour flights all the time. Then this other thing which is like you can I know, you know, people will back up against this. But I just liked, we started to entertain the idea

of raising these boys in a different environment. And I know you can raise good kids in LA and New York. But there was something like, maybe I'm just like idealizing it, romanticizing the idea of having my boys in this more open space, outdoors, like in this culture that appealed to us more, just like having them raised in Austin.

So you combine all those things, we took trips, we like it there, great restaurants, great food scene. I know that a big thing is obviously can you do comedy somewhere and comedy's kind of exploding in the city? So it all together just became super appealing. And then when I knew when we were in is when she started to talk about it more than I did.

You know, like when your wife starts to go like. It's kind of fun, exciting change, you know. It's fun. I do fantasize about moving out of LA. Yeah. You know what, the other thing is I live there again, like a few days and come back here. And right away you start to go,

God damn, there's so many people here. Well, it's not new, like they've always been, but it really starts to sit on you a little more, you know? Yeah, LA is crowded. It'd be not like, it's nice to fantasize, you'd be like, oh man, I could buy half a city for $10 million versus, you know. Do it.

You should do it on the side. Just have a fucking city alone. But I get it, I get it. Yeah. I mean, you know, get it, I get it. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's, I, but basically no tax is there, right? Well, no, no state. No state tax.

Yeah. That's a good one. That is like what, 10, 12, 13% now. Here in LA, 13.3 for the state. That's it. But they're proposing a raise. Don't they fucking dare do that? 15, I'm like, we're making an money left. 16.8 would be the new city. No, yeah't they fucking dare do that. 15, I'm like, we're making an money love. 16.8 would be the new seat. No, yeah.

They can't do that. What are you gonna do? We're gonna call them. That's so crazy. People will get mad about that, but I hope I don't think it's gonna pass though, because I think there's a lot of people that are like, okay, California, chill to fuck out. Yeah.

But isn't that always people saying that, hey, California, chill to fuck out with this shit? Yeah. But usually it's about like gay marriage and weed and stuff. Yeah, there's too many of them too. That's another reason we don't know. So, no, the, but the people, it's funny. You say, uh, state tax, people get mad.

People get mad at you. They're like, what the fuck, like, you're... Because you're making a business decision. Yeah, like people get mad at you. They'll, they'll, they'll like send you messages. You're fucking avoiding taxes. I'm like, no, avoiding. No, no, no.

Like, I wonder why? I wonder what's the theory there. Is that? They think that like because you make a good living, you shouldn't care. You shouldn't care or it is your duty. What is, it is your duty if you live somewhere to pay them. And like, but the fact that you're even making that decision,

it upsets some people. Now let's be clear, it upsets poor people. But, but, you know, it upsets peasants and fucking make more idiot-bagglers, yeah, stop being poor, you fucking idiot. So, that is an interesting thing though, I'm trying to unpack that, you know. Like for example, this guy,

these Bozos, the Paul Brothers, moved to Puerto Rico recently. Did you hear about that? The Paul, like Logan and Jake. No, because that means no federal tax, right? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no federal taxes if you live there. I don't think so. Really? We look it up. I mean, Puerto Rico is a... It's a territory. If there's no federal taxes, I'm moving to Puerto Rico. Fuck this LH shit.

Look. It's not a US state, but it's a commonwealth. Constantly ball. What else is it? Pay federal tax. Many residents are not required to pay federal income tax. Yeah. Those motherfuckers are not paying federal income tax.

Right. So it's really a way to what? Yeah. So what do we think about moving to Puerto Rico to do that tax dodging? Federal law requires payment of federal income tax from the following residents and corporations only federal government employees of Puerto Rico, residents who are members of the US military those with income sources outside of Puerto Rico. Yeah, they're paying tax.

Okay. Well, I guess they're just talking about like, I think they're not paying state taxes. I understood it. Well, for sure. Yeah. But what's interesting about them is that they go to Puerto Rico and then people of Puerto Rico are like, you know, fuck you like like, yeah, they don't want them coming here. The first week they're there, they moved in some bridge-computing community, you know, on the beach.

And the first week they're there, they get out their golf cards and they're driving on the beach of protected beach. In golf carts? Yeah, in golf carts, because like apparently it's turtles nesting season where turtles go lay their eggs there so it's like protected lands and these fucking morons in the first week They're there are there the Puerto Rican government has put out a statement saying they're investigating them now already It's been one week these youtubers have been there and they're being investigated by Puerto Rico. Jesus, they can't. For fucking running over baby turtles. They can't like avoid this fuckery, right? No, guys.

No, they can't. They just, it's like, they're always in some shit. Yeah, another thing about Jake Paul, by the way, who's part, Triller, you know, suing me. Yeah, so let's break this down though, for people who don't know. So Triller put on these These events the most recent with with of which was Jake Paul

Merce Ben Askren and they did the one before right the Tyson one then they do the Tyson one man I don't recall I think I think Trill can you pull up a photo of Ben ask ask grin at the way in oh, yeah Yeah, people because Jake Paul is basically just beating up like Ralph Kessier's at this point. He knocked him out in the first round and then he's like crying. I mean, I feel like I feel like I'm in as good shape as Ben. I feel like I'm an evil fight against Ben. This was really hilarious because I didn't, I don't know, you know, a lot about MMA stuff and like I kind of see it on the side. And I didn't know that Ascoran is a legit champ.

Like he is, he was in his, a really good wrestler. Yeah, but he hasn't fought. Not so much a striker. I guess. No, he's known for being a poor striker in MMA Okay way at it way at a shape obviously That's the other thing boy. He's training really hard. It's all he does Yeah, and he can he can fight. He's a boxer now, or you know

I just love that photo on the left there of him. Yeah face on yeah little less like damn bro You built like a Michelin man. Yeah, he does in all fairness, he really looks like shit. The Ben. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he makes no, anyway, the fight, my point is the fight was a total fucking fraud. Yeah. They have exaggerated, I'm speculating that they exaggerated

their sales numbers to make the team more interesting. Yeah. that they exaggerated their sales numbers to make the team more interesting. That hired all these like huge people, ironically nobody gave a fuck. I'm like, people who wanna watch boxing don't wanna watch Justin Bieber perform, you know what I mean? Like the crowd. So they hired like, I think they're just hemorrhaging money. They could be.

Trillers hemorrhaging money. It's poorly managed. But the app is shitty. I'm going in now. Okay. Okay. I just want to shit on them a little bit. Okay.

Yeah. Their app is horrible, poorly run. Also, Jake Paul, by the way, I don't know if you saw the New York Times article about him. New York Times wrote a whole feature piece on Jake Paul, the account of which accused Jake Paul of rape. Jake Paul, it was accused of rape by the New York Times. What?

Yeah, pull that up. This is like an expose, I think? Yeah, it was according to this, this gets 24. Mm-hmm. Jesus Christ. Yeah, this article talks about how we fucked over all of his friends in the face, in the team 10 house. But it's mostly about this girl who says that

Bro, you know he's got that bass pro shop head on. What is with these bass pro shot? Have you noticed this bass pro shot? I've seen a little bit. I'm so fucking like bro Jake Paul you don't fucking Has but that's you bought that on Amazon right but, and that's like the, the thing is like, oh, this is, you know, a funny thing to wear, right? Like, this is what, no. Working class, like fishermen types would wear. Yeah. So it's like a joke.

No, I don't know, but I just see everyone wearing it these days. We are officially team, okay. Well, anyway, it details this girl who says that, in short, she was raped by Jake Paul out of party. And the New York Times vetted it. I had the person on our show, the reporter, Taylor Lawrence, and they vetted the story. They talked to people that were at the party to her friends.

And so they're like, this is a very carefully vetted story that Jake Paul raped this girl. Jake Paul is a, he's accused of New York Times of being a rapist. It's pretty severe, right? It's a serious accusation. Right, by the New York Times. I'm just saying that it's a vetted, a vetted by the New York Times, not by me.

I'm not saying he's a rapist. The New York Times said he's a rapist, right? The story of, what is the thing? The story of the paper of record? Yeah. Right, they said he's a rapist. The New York Times said he's a rapist, right? The story of, what is their thing? The story of the paper of record? Yeah. Right. They said he's a rapist. Wow.

And so anyway, I've- It's a pretty serious thing that the New York Times accused him of. The New York Times is saying that Jake Paul's a rapist. Yeah. That's pretty serious. I just want to emphasize that. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, big paper. One of the biggest. It's one of the biggest in the world. Yeah. And they said, when they. One of the biggest. It's one of the biggest in the world. Yeah. And they said, when they go out of their way to say, we take this guy, my Jake Paul, is he's a being accused of rape. Of rape.

Yeah, that's a real serious accusation. Is this who he's accused of? Oh, no, that's his ex-girlfriend who she says he was violent with her. The New York Times said that. The New York Times said that. New York Times said that. Yeah. Yeah.

I think they said that. Hold on. Let me read the caption for you that. Phil, this has spoken out about her relationship with Mr. Paul. He pushed, yeah, violent. Pushed me into a bus. Yada yada yada. He would actually shove me.

He would just say, wait too hard. Violent. She said, oh, can oh, this is really, maybe this is, it says in a video posted that Justine Paradise, a 24-year-old TikTok influencer accused Mr. Paul of sexual assault. Again, that's what it says here. In the New York Times, the article,

it's in it she said involved forced oral sex and took place at the team 10 house. It's very graphic, so I don't, I think it might get you guys in trouble to read the, the actual details of the rape he, that he was accused of by the New York Times. Yeah. But my point is, is that we covered this story extensively.

And because Jake Paul is so important to Triller, who obviously have very little moral qualms with one of their big stars being accused of rape by the New York Times, not me, for the record. And does he own Triller? He is a part owner of Triller. So you see there's a conflict of interest because they've got, yeah, they've got their price horse, right, Jake Paul, who is accused of New York Times of being, of doing a rape.

Yeah. Yeah. Not funny by the way. No, no, no, of course. Very serious. And then. So recently, so I covered that a lot. Yeah. And so on the podcast, I showed a clip of Jake Paul knocking out Ben 45 seconds of their four hour event, talked over the whole thing. And they say, so then they come at me saying, And they come at me saying,

this dude rebroadcast our fight. The podcast has a million views. To watch the fight was 50 bucks. So we're suing you for $50 million. And that's what you're being sued for. Yeah, for $50 million. $50 million. Yes, that's a lot of money, man. Yeah, they're not gonna get it.

Yeah. I'll fight, I'm gonna fight a lot harder than Ben Astrick. I'll tell you that. And I wouldn't recommend, I would just get, I would like to just notify trillers kind of, their investors, the people who are there. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of celebrities who invest in triller.

I know they're coming to do, I think they're hemaging money. That's where they're trying to shake me down. Yeah. And also their prize horse, Jake Paul, was accused of rape by the New York Times in this profile piece. It's pretty, it's, I didn't have anything to do

with that profile piece. No, and is that a recent piece? That's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Recent. Wow. Yeah, it's, wow. So you're fighting his legal team. I'm a, right now we're in, what's, wow. So you're fighting his legal team, I'm a, or,

right now we're in, what's it called, in settlement talks. So we're trying to see if we can work it out. They're not being, I can't say anything about the settlement talks. Of course. But basically depending on if how that goes, I can say this, it's not going that good.

Then it's gonna go to litigation. But I've already done this once in one, you know what I mean? And our last case against copyright infringement, there was like a big blood bath. We won is going to be used as legal precedent in our case with trailer, which is pretty interesting. Yeah, that is interesting. So it is set like a legal precedent.

Yeah, absolutely. If you go to interesting. Yeah, that is interesting. So it is set like a legal precedent. Yeah, absolutely. If you go to copyright.gov, we are among a short list of presidential copyright cases that are like, yeah, our last case was about. Yeah, this dude Matt Haas sued us for making fun of his content. And he said that they argued that like I used too much of the content, that my commentary wasn't transformative, that basically for copyright infringement, right?

Same thing Trill is doing me for. And you know, there's this thing called fair use, which allows our, we have a First Amendment right to use people's other copyrighted work if there's, if you meet certain criteria. One being like you're offering commentary and criticism that transforms the work and that you're not replacing the original, not a market substitute for the original work. In other words, people aren't going to watch me talking for 45 seconds on this clip, instead of going watching the whole four hour event. It's not a market substitute. And the fact that I'm talking over at the whole time and analyzing it is a commentary

and criticism. So we're making a good faith effort to what we're doing is essentially making it our own content. Right. Under the rules of this fair use notion. Makes sense? Yeah. I mean, we all do it all the time on YouTube and popular. Of course. In the New York Times when they take photos from the team 10 house where Jake Paul was accused, but from the New York

Times being a raimpest. So they take that's fair use too. That sounds like fair use. And so did I mention that Jake Paul was accused by, yeah. That's fair use to it sounds like and so Did I mention that Jake Paul was good is by yeah, yeah, you said I think one of the big newspapers did it your time So you know time's big. Yeah huge pretty huge Well, I am I certainly hope you guys can settle Yes, yeah, also I have the last time I saw you I thought you were like just starting your uh, frenemies.

Mm-hmm podcast with uh, Trisha. That's wild. Yeah, I mean, it's been a while, right? Yes, it's been a while. And you I gotta say I if you can you pull up um, Ethan's Instagram because it's pretty tell I mean, what it's all Trisha pretty much No, it's not and I wasn't gonna point that out as much as like Click yeah when you scroll down here scroll down a little bit like what you guys are doing you and her play

Yeah, it's it's really fun though man. I love it's actually so fun And you've been doing like really elaborate ones the mask the mask one I mean are you bringing in the same team every time to do we have like two different teams we rotate through and you've been doing like really elaborate ones. The mask. The mask one. I mean, are you bringing in the same team every time to do this? We have like two different teams we rotate through. It's impressive. But they're really good. Like if you go down, the uncle festival was crazy.

Because I actually- That's your Timber Lake Britney one there, right? And all of that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a Rolls Royce for it too. Which I drove here. Yeah. Oh yeah?

You have a Rolls now? Yes. Bro. I had to do it for the show. Oh. This one was crazy. The Grinch. These are actually the people that did the Grinch miss. Did you hear about when the Grinch came out with Kerry? What his makeup was like every day? That they were doing that. He was like, he was said that he was miserable. Oh my God, it's so hard. He was doing that every day. And his was way more elaborate.

Yeah, without, oh there's the faster one. His was way more elaborate. Yeah, I shaved off my eyebrows and all my hair. It's crazy. You weren't worried about that? I always hear, well, I thought it would be funny anyway. It's funny. And they, it actually grew back pretty fast.

You have a nice head of hair though. Thank you. Jesus Christ. The eyebrows came right back. That's the impressive part. So how it started out. Let's go. Look, you're like a little baby here on the left.

Yeah, that was really old. That was from when we were in Israel and I first started making videos. So that was a long time ago. God damn, what year would that be? Geez What years at 21 so probably like 2011 maybe that's 2011 maybe Jesus Christ dude I didn't even own a cell phone back then that's James Charles

Really with my face on it, but yeah. That's how he lays out. Dude, he's such a creep, bro. Have you been following the James Charles shit? Just a little bit. Yeah, he posts photos like that all the time. He's such a disgusting pile of creep. I wonder why people see you. Well, he is.

I mean, I'm just trying to write right to say that. It's a completely righteous thing. You wouldn't say that. I mean, that's my first memory, right? So that opinion. He posted that on Instagram. This one's amazing. Yeah't say that. I mean, that's a first, my first remember, right to that opinion. He posted that on Instagram. This one's amazing. Yeah, so that one I caused, I think I, I don't remember what I did that.

You look like everyone's sassy mom from Minneapolis. Yeah. Right. Like that's a Midwest mom who's like, look at that double chin boy. I've gotten fat, fat, fat. And it goes away. The chin? Yeah, sure.

Just putting, oh, if you lose weight. Just going to diet, yeah. Oh, okay, fat. And it goes away. The chin? Yeah, sure. Just finding, Oh, if you lose weight. Just going to die it. Yeah. Oh, okay, Bert. What? I mean, Tom, I got confused.

Cause you're talking about being fat. Yeah, the fat. Look at this one on the left. Kind of like a fat. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But wait, you don't think you can lose the weight? Or you're like, you still want to.

I know that I can't, like theoretically, it's possible to lose weight. Yeah. This is so ridiculous. Yeah, we've been having, oh, that's what it was. I was dressed up as James Charles. Yeah, yeah, it looks like you're one wearing one of his sweatshirts.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he ripped off our hoodie. It was crazy. That's what started our beef. Wow, too shay. Now, so he did a release of a hoodie that was very similar. It was like a car by cop pattern and everything.

Yeah, there we go. I don't say anything usually. And it's dude, explain to me, because you're way more... Look at that, it's the same fucking thing. Yeah, you're way more, like you're dialed in with all, like he's a makeup artist? So he's like a makeup artist influencer and he was friends.

He was also kind of like really mainstream. He had gone really mainstream and kind of elevated right. But the thing that started happening is that he kept getting, this started like a few years ago where like young kids were being like I've been getting sexting from James Charles on TikTok or Snapchat or Instagram. And at first I was like, oh, cloud chaser, fuck off. And then, you know, fast forward to like a month ago, there was at that this point, like I'm estimating, I think I'm about right, give or take a few, like 18 allegations of sexing with fans,

and then like 12 of them were minors. So the guy is actually like a prolific predator. And I say that with peace and love. That's really gross. No, he actually is a horrible person that should not- How old is that guy? Early 20s. But he, so he was sexing with kids as young as 14. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, I had, I did a podcast with this, uh, DEA guy that chased down Pablo Escobar. And he told me that Escobar had like like young teens that he would sleep with, you know. I was like that is the first not cool thing I heard about Pablo. Right. You're like, well, I was a huge fan. Yeah, I was a big fan. That turns me off. That really turns me off. But I don't get, I mean, I think, you know, bro, I'm kind of flabbergasted by our gender, lately. The Bill Gates. Is there a story?

Yeah, what's the story? Again, New York Times, who also wrote about Jake Paul. Yes, the accused rapist, I remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah, accused. They also profiled, there's been a lot of stories come out, Bill Gates. So apparently the divorce was fueled from Bill's closeness to Jeffrey. Literally. I heard this in a blurb.

This actually has substance. Yes, yes, yes, it has substance. So Bill Gates was downplaying his relationship with Epstein and his wife knew. And that's why she divorced him. Among other things, like apparently now it's coming out that like he was having sexual relationships with his employees, that he was making unwanted sexual advances to his employees, I'm like, Bill fucking Gates. He's hot.

If we can't even trust Bill Gates, like, I mean, who would fuck Bill Gates, by the way? And I try to take that from one unfuckable guy to another. I'm just like, Bill Gates, like, I mean, who would fuck Bill Gates, by the way? And I try, take that from one unfuckable guy to another. I'm just like, Bill Gates? It's wild. It's wild. I mean, it's the other thing too, is that we take, you know, he's one of those relationships, where of course it's public people, it's famous people,

you don't know them. I always was like, oh, they'll be together when they're 80. They just seem like that. Yeah. Couple that gets along and they'll indicate. Yeah, and they have the foundation and you see that just philanthropic and you're like, yeah, great. Now, never, you know, why would I think about it?

And then, yeah. I mean, he has this dark secret life. Yeah, I don't, I think it's because you just reach this, you know, unimaginable. It's your brain on. Yeah, this, you know, unimaginable. Fuck your brain off. Yeah, of course. You think so. I don't know.

I think there's gotta be sane, Billion. I guess you have to be kind of like, you have to be kind of fucking crazy to get that rich. You do. To drive that drive, to be like, I know one billion is not enough. Think about also what it does to your brain, to be,

not just that wealthy, but that wealthy for a while. You know what I mean? Where you start to go like, they're, you know, it accumulates to a point where you have like a net worth that like, countries. You don't have a TV piece. Like 150 plus billion. Well, like, you know, what excites you, I guess.

I don't know what gets them going at that point. Like you, they're buying islands and, you know, like they can use by another corporation. And they do that a lot. They do that. And it's like, I mean, I wonder if there's like a, if you could study like relationship wise, do they all get into other relationships?

Like, how many of them stay with their spouses? Because I bet you, you see a lot of turnover there. You know, I think also the problem is, is not just like, I think they're just like such aggressively motivated by work, there's such aggressive workaholics that there's like almost no chance for them to maintain a healthy relationship.

That seems like a very wise analysis of it. Well, thank you so much. I do. I mean, it does because like, if you're one of the people at that level, you're not casual enough time for anything. No, these guys, you're working, you're getting up at four. For sure. And you're just like, and here's the thing,

you're obsessed with whatever you're feeling. Yes. You're obsessed. And they said that, like I read a couple things, I mean, unrelated to this stuff, years ago about how you would not believe how competitive gates and like Mary Ellison are, they're like, they are, like, when you think of like,

athlete, they're like that. They're like Michael Jordan and Ron James. It's interesting because Bill Gates, when I was growing up, had a reputation of being an absolutely cutthroat capitalist. And now in his older age, he was like this great generous man who fucking drank poop water, you know them?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It killed disease in Africa. Yep. But apparently he and also apparently he was fluent. He flew on low litus breath. Oh boy. Did he go down that he went to the pan? I can you guys go go that? I think he might have stepped foot on that island. They can they have the Bill Gates go to Jeffrey Epstein's island. That's what we're looking for. Yo, who didn't go to that island at this point?

You know what I mean? Clinton was on there a few times. Clinton was on there, you know? Everybody's been on that island. Anyone who's anyone's been on Jeffrey's step. That says false claim there. To fuck you, Reuters. Five minutes ago.

Oh, five minute read. Moves is posted, May 15th. Reuters is working for Bill Gates. For sure. What did New York Times say about it? Who wrote an article about Jake Paul being a racist? Wait, go back to where we would just work. I've seen lots of ifs and buts about like,

he did this, he did that. Oh, so it's saying that people are confirming like this that he was there a lot and then following. It's all true. He once counted US president. Oh, say so it's saying that people are confirming like this that he was there a lot and then following He once counted us president. Oh, yeah, Trump there. Well, that Trump with him were buddies, right Prince Andrew that one was out. Oh, Prince Andrew for sure. Yeah, you see that That when he did that interview. Oh, and he's all sweating and shit. He's like, I don't sweat Yeah, and and and they were like,

why, you know, why did you have to see him again to end your friendship? And he was like, it was a bad decision. Yeah, he would definitely. Well, there's that photo of him with the girl and Jizz Lane, which her name is Jizz Lane, and that that funny? That's one of the girls. Gis Lane is the... Oh, oh, I got you. Is it her name Gis Lane? Like I kept saying, it's that's how it's pronounced, right? I know you're talking about that. That's like his lady that we... Yeah, the lady. That would help him get girls.

Yeah, and his girlfriend. I heard that name pronounce all different types of ways. I think it's actually pronounced Gis Lane. I swear. Can you guys look up a pronunciation? Well, let's see how he spells it. Yeah, let's see how he spells it. Oh, yeah, he got it right.

Are kind of, oh, he did, whoa, he did really good. How to pronounce Jizz Lane. Bro, that pronunciation got, oh, G Lane. Oh, fuck. G Lane. Yeah, I'm an asshole. I'm an idiot. I swear to God I've been trying to pronounce the name for like a year and someone don't convince me it was actually well It's unusual. It's an unusual name, but I see G G lane. That makes more sense than G's lane G's lane would be tight It wouldn't be yeah, get over your gizz. Hey, jizzy get over here. Do your be. Yeah. Get over here, Jizz. Hey, Jizzy, get over here.

Do your thing. Yeah. So do you think Gates is just gonna go on a push pounding mission right now? Like, he's just like- Well, apparently he's been on one. But like now that he's like, I was just gonna cost me $50 billion. Yeah. He's just gonna straight up flex on these hos.

Yeah, and especially now that he's been outed by the world, he might just go... Fuck it. You might go crazy. How do you think they're gonna split up the house? The house is supposed to be one of the greatest. I think they'll get the house. You do? There's so much money.

Yeah. And he like built the house, he cares about that house apparently. Really? Freehouse, by the way. It's a real crazy house. Yeah, it's a freehouse. They custom built it. Yeah. It's insane, dude. It's a real crazy house. Yeah, it's a freak house. They custom built it.

Yeah. It's insane, dude. It's insane. It's supposed to be 50,000 square feet of living space, which is so crazy. Mm-hmm. He needs that. Yeah. Xanadu. Oh, and then isn't Xanadu where... Xanadu was the name of like... ...from... ...citizen cane. Yeah. ...where the guy locked himself up. Zanadu was the name of like from citizen Cain,

where the guy locked himself up. Right. That's what's gonna happen to him. He could turn, like, one of those, he's gonna turn it to his. We could turn it to his. Yeah, after all this, I don't think he can deal with it. But I'm thinking that Jeff Bezos X and Bill Gates X

need to start a club. Yeah, because they're like one, they're going to be like the one and two richest women in the world. Yeah. Huge money. Mm hmm. What's her name? Uh, Mackenzie, um, Bezos X gave a way, like just unrestricted, like no, a lot of times people big money donors will be like, I'll give you this. You have to spend it this way. Mm hmm. She was like, no, a lot of times people big money donors will be like, I'll give you this, you have to spend it this way. Mm-hmm. She was like, no, you do what you want with it. Like, gave way at like six billion last year or something?

Good for her, man. Yeah, no. Because that's the thing, like, I've heard of a lot, I've done a lot of back and forth on these like, people like Jeff Bezos, especially Bill Gates, because he's made his whole persona is that he's into a philanthropy, philanthropy. They say that right?

You got it right. Philanthropy. You got it? It's the middle that gets me. Philanthropy. Philanthropy. Philanthropy. You got it.

Okay. So Gates has been all about that. And so I've been kind of, and then you know, the, the perception is like, what a great guy. And he's like, I'm gonna donate all my money when I die, whatever. But the thing is, and I was trying to read like, okay, what's the criticism here?

Because I know a lot of people were kind of, it's like he sits like a king in court, and accepts, he has so much control and influence. Like you said, like, you have to spend it this specific way. I'm helping these specific things. And it really gives him this like, I'm almost unprecedented since the days of actual like Lordships and kings,

a power over these companies to like come and sit in his court and pitch to him. Yeah. And I don't know. It is like the King's Court for sure. Yeah. And then you get this, but you must spend it this way. Yeah.

If you please me. I'll tell you this, I like more what he's doing in Bezos when it comes to philanthropy because he didn't do any shit. Yeah, Bezos is literally a comic villain. I feel like he was, I was thinking about it. I'm like, wait, why? And then the only thing that I can come up with is that he really wants to see where his number can get.

Like he's more interested in that. Just the scoreboard. I think, why would you, Well, you know what's crazy? I want you to have 200 billion. Like, what, what's stopping you from being like, I want a trillion motherfucker. Yeah, I mean, well, he'll get there with Amazon, you know,

I don't even want to support them, but I find myself on my phone every day, being like Jeff Bezos just made a buck for me. Yeah, Jeff Bezos just made $2 for me. Of course, it's so enormous and effective. Honestly, Amazon is too fucking convenient. You literally have to use it. They've made such an amazing service

that it's, you have to use it. You have to use it. When, have you had the days where you're on the app, you're looking for something, and it's like, if you order within the next whatever, you'll get it today. I remember the first thing, like, what? I could get it today. Yeah, I remember the first thing, like, what? I could get it today.

Yeah, I know. How do I get it today? It's fucking nuts. It's nuts. Yeah. Or I'll buy shit at night and it'll show up the next day for sure. But in the morning, you're like, oh, I need them. They're like, I need batteries for my remote.

So like, you need it today. I was like, yeah, I need it in one hour. There you go. Does your remote work? Yes, it's fine. It's like I need it, right? And it's motherfucking figuring it out. There's no, nothing to match.

So, you know, nothing's stopping him, literally nothing's stopping him. And, you know, his new thing now is just like the space race. He's kind of gotten involved in that. Yeah. Which is like, I feel like the new vanity project of billionaires. It certainly seems like it is him, Elon. Yeah. I don't know who else is in that thing. It's just him and Elon right now. But they're going like they both have a heart on for it. Yeah. And interestingly, if you pull up a photo of Bezos rocket, it looks just like a penis swear to God. Well,

all rockets kind of have a phallix. This one is specific. Look at this, got a fucking mushroom head, bro. I mean, it is literally cock shaped. That looks like a cock. Yeah, I mean, I was just kind of shocked the first time I saw that. I was like, oh, Jeff Bezos is literally compensating for something. I mean, what if he was just like ever like, he made the design team study his dick

and he goes, it's got to look just like this. That would be amazing scoop for the New York Times to read about story. It looks like my dick. You know a lot of people say that the future like huge money earning is gonna be in space mining minerals from meteorites. I don't wanna get involved. You don't wanna talk about that? No, no, I'm saying.

Like hearing that, I'm like, wow, like this. It's not from, yeah. Yeah, not from me. Oh, you're, yeah. Do you wanna get involved in space minerals? It sounds cool. Yeah. But like the problem is that you're gonna have

people like Jeff Bezos, who are the ones spearheading it. Sure. And he'll get a head start on it. Yeah, it is, it does feel like he's morphing, has been morphing into this villain. He is literally, this fucking Superman villain. Yeah, Lex Luthur.

Yeah, he's Lex Luthur. He looks like, Yeah. He's, you see his L.A. house that he bought? Yes, the most expensive house ever sold in L.A. I love I love these right here. This is that's sort of saying the transformation is complete as a perfect villain arc like nice normal guy Little goofy. Yeah, hi like books. Yeah, yeah, exactly and then all the sudden, something short, circuit, did you nerd-ass motherfuckers? Some experimental drug.

Yeah. That mean that's some TRT on the right, right there, right? I mean, for sure. You got all swole. Definitely started spending money on jackets. Right. Yeah. He got way cooler.

Yeah, it's amazing. And I, it's crazy. It's like middle management on the left for the door. Door to door salesman. And then on the right, I'll fucking kill your whole family. Yeah. If you try to use any eyes. Yeah.

If you use your eyes, I will literally kill your whole family. In front of you. You have to watch each of them die one by one. Despite it, literally not even affecting my bottom line. Look at Elon too. Oh, Elon made a crazy transformation. Yeah. Yeah, it's amazing how it works. Oh, Elon made a crazy transformation. Yeah. Yeah, it's amazing how that works.

Oh, look, click that link right there. It says the stylist who gives CEOs a makeover. Mark is struggling. Who do you hate the most between Elon, daddy, Bezos, and Zuck? Well, here's the thing about Zuck. I hate his platform. Like I have-

Facebook is so worse. That's the worst app. I don't need to use it. It's wild. It's wild. I hate it. And I also feel like he does, like, if it's possible, like he's the most foolish shit.

Sure. And this, this, this passing off the accountability for like misinformation, like you're fueling misinformation. And they're like, well, we, like the whole cop out argument, well, you know, it's like, you could just be like, no, we're going to put a team in place so that nobody can really spread, like massively spread lies, knowingly spread lies. And his way out of that to me was like, oh, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. It's gross. Yeah, it's gross. It's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it's gross was Russian, Russia's buying fucking like a billion dollars of ads, quick ads.

Yeah. So this is not a bad, I agree. Suck his piece of shit. Oh, this is her, huh? Does she styles them up? Can we get a price quote? How'd you find her? Meet Fractoria.

Okay. And she does the Silicon Valley, was that what they're saying? Can we get a price quote? Well, this is what she does. Hair transplant, do some exercise, put on a jacket. I mean, it's not rocket science I mean, but none of those guys look like this. No, but that's what she sells them She's like you see these guys look like this. Yeah, they can need a body transplant Jeff Bayes is some sure is working on oh, they probably is

Imagine what those guys have asked for as far as youth and you know what I mean? Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gonna be interesting to see how long those guys last, you know? Yeah, like, I think. But it was crazy, like when I remember

when Paul Allen got sick and you're like, this is one of the like five richest people on earth and he gets cancer and dies like anybody. You know what I mean? Like I always thought like, well if you had those resources, is there a difference? people on earth and he gets cancer and dies like anybody. You know what I mean? Like I always thought like, well if you had those resources, is there a difference? Some types of cancer just fucking kill you.

Yeah. You know. Like when Steve Jobs got sick, you know, Steve Jobs was just fucking idiot. He literally refused to get conventional cancer treatment. He literally ate fruit and tried to like, Yeah, it was the fucking dumbest thing ever. And he had pancreatic cancer,

which has a very high mortality rate. And I believe almost immediately when you're diagnosed, there's treatment and then there's the, like they suggest I believe removing your pancreas. He's like, I don't want to be cut open, I don't want to be... Well, I read that he had a... He's like, but I fucking ate figs and melons today. Oh, that'll work.

Yeah, I don't know how like, especially a guy who's dedicated his life to technology can miss the fucking. Yeah, really miss it. Like that. Yeah. But apparently he also had an organ transplant late before he died, which is kind of epic, because he skipped the line, got the organ organ transplant and then died anyway. Wow, and was that what it was a pancreatic? No, they don't we're gonna have to look that up to fact check that but I I saw him speaking about how he got a organ transplant and then

Fucking died. It's crazy. Oregon trans Steve Jobs death transplant Steve Jobs' death transplant. Let's see. We got a liver transplant. Whoa! Received a anonymous $40 million donation. Yeah, that's what it costs to jump in line in the organ because it's very, very carefully regulated.

Yeah. You have to get in line and wait your turn because you don't know when a fresh organ's coming in. Right. And so $40 million, that's what will buy you an organ. Holy shit. But what, what, what the part that I love about this is that he literally fucking died anyway because he wasn't responsible enough to get the real, yeah, he got a liver transplant. It's actually take his cancer treatment seriously.

So someone else probably died because of that. Probably, yeah. Yeah. He gave 40, that's so much money. Yeah, but he, yeah. No, nothing him. Of course. Yeah.

But that's astonishing when 40 million is not a lot to you. Oh yeah. You know, I mean, to be able to do that. That's well, you know. Yeah. And we'll see if I get to the front of the line. Yeah. It's worth the shot. That's right. Yeah. We'll see if I get to the front of the line. Yeah. It's worth the shot.

That's right. Yeah. The small donation. That's insane. Yeah, so again, all these guys are crazy ass pieces of shit. I guess when you're dying, I mean, whatever. But at least get the chemo dumbass. Well, I mean, how could you not, I don't know.

But I am interested to see how people like daddy bezos who I do think like you heard about like spirit cooking and all that like you they they're it's like the pizza gay people like the deep conspiracy you know yeah yeah they believe that people like bezos and Bill Gates used baby blood and a shamanistic process called spirit cooking they drink it I'm not relying they believe this to keep youthful. So I do think that Jeff Bezos would be willing to do a spirit session.

Just to be youthful. Would you do it to stay youthful? A spirit session? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Clinton too, of course. Clinton's there. No, yeah.

The, the, the, How dirty do you think his darkest secrets are? Oh, Bezos bro. No, no, Clinton. Oh, Clinton, bro. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what to think about them.

I think it's probably pretty dark. I mean, the Monk Alun Winsky story was really interesting how she came out recently and there was a documentary. Did you see that? I did not. I remember hearing of it. And what I noticed was that like without getting into the story, I noticed like so much support for her and people like really.

Yeah, because at the time, she was like victim-blamed a lot. Yeah, and she was like a young girl in intern. She was like a teenager. She thought they were in love. She thought he was gonna like leave his. She thought they were in love. She thought he was going to like leave his wife and like they were going to be together. And it's the leader of the free world. Yeah. And so like by today's standard, it's easy to look at that and be like, oh, that was

horrible. What he put her through. Yeah. And when she tells the story now, everyone's like, And when she tells the story now, everyone's like, back then she was horribly shamed and it was all her fault. And Bill, it's really interesting to see it kind of through that historical lens. Yeah, I mean, he also like, he has these weird ties to so many. You know, that guy who's been on Epstein, Epstein's Island, you've seen that little Greek dome. Yeah, he has there. What the fuck?

I watched that, the doc. Yeah, which was fucking creepy. The one about like, when he was trafficking kids on Palm Beach. Yeah, and then they showed up some of the islands. Look at this shit. Yeah. He's got a fucking weird Greek temple on his island. What goes on in there?

I don't know. Kinda looks like a mosque, doesn't it? Oh shit, open that one. It's got like a elevator. It has a basement. Do the one on the left where it has, yeah, that one. Oh my God. There's a elevator shaft. Elevator doors. What does that say? Windows for light? Or is this just conspiracy shit though? Or is this like, you know what I mean? I don't know I think it's just some dude with on paint. Yeah, I think it's some dude on paint. Yeah, I was like holy shit Yeah, these guy and does that island just sit as it was now like no one's gonna question

You know, I mean who gets the island that's what I'm that's what I mean? Who gets the island? That's what I'm wondering. Who gets Epstein's island? I mean the real move would be, well he left everything to his brother, right? Right before he died. Oh right, he did all kinds of interesting. Yeah he did, he did, uh... Oh it's for sale, for 10 million.

Oh. Oh no no, he bought it for 10 million. Oh my god. We purchased it out for $95. I'm sorry. I only, I only, I only, I only valid it to 63 million now. Damn. Yeah, his brother, he left,

he changed his will like two or three days before he died. What happened there? I mean, I always felt like, you know, online, everybody's like, does this definitely secret agents in the, it was a murder, but I think it's just exciting to think that. I think if you study the behavior, like the fact that you call your attorney to change

your... He's planning. Well, I guess another popular theory is that he was allowed to... Right. ...gave him the space to do it. Yeah. Give him the space to do it. Which, give him the space to do it. Which is probably more likely if there is a conspiracy.

Yeah, but like, dude, there's so much weird shit. And I am so not a conspiracy theorist. The cameras weren't working. The guard didn't check in on it. And like when I was making a transfer. Yeah, but also like a hit, like, you know, I don't think a hit would be possible. Like they like they love that like that's what I hear the most It was you know he was murdered and you're like I understand you're attraction to that theory right, but it's still

More that still the behavior and everything that lines up still suggests, you know I think what probably happened. There was a conspiracy someone was like Kill yourself or this is what's gonna happen. I think he would want to kill himself. Somebody like him, who's like this ultra narcissist, lives this ridiculous, opulent lifestyle. Like when you see the writing on the wall, like when you're back that time,

and they go, his attorneys were like, you're gonna get convicted for, and you're gonna do time, and you're rest of your life's probably gonna be. And if you're gonna be real good. Like look at Weinstein today, bro. Yeah. Can you imagine, like I can't even imagine

such a fall from Grace. Harvey and the way he physically looks too. Oh my god. The way he's affected him. And he keeps trying to like get transferred. I love reading the court file. He's like, I've got no teeth. I can't see.

It's like sucks to be you, fucker. Yeah, yeah. Keep telling us about shit you're doing. What's he look like right now? See what the latest image of him is? You know, it's like this was a guy who... 2021, is there? Who was a kingmaker.

Yeah, with the Walker. And now he's literally a worthless piece of ship prisoner. Broke. Look at him. Don't cause me to. Kazby really looks like dog shit too. Cause. Cause be. Cause be looks even worse. Yeah, he's fully blinded and eyes eyes are going all different directions and shit. Rudy doesn't. And we, wow, look at him. That was pre-jail, that one, the look. That one is? Yeah, he looks too happy.

Wow. Man. Yeah. Well, I mean, in a sense, he's so old that like, you know. Now, you know what's interesting, but it's just a retirement home for him. But, so with his crime, and what he was convicted of of not like all the accusations, but what he's convicted of All these legal scholars say that because of his age and the actual crime he would definitely get paroled

If like he's been up for parole But part of getting paroled for a crime like this is you have to express like Remorse and like talk about the reviews to acknowledge so he's gonna rotten jail cuz of that yes There you go he would rather serve the awesome. Yeah, the sentence fucking awesome guy in his 80s like you what you like You want to get out? He's like no Apparently he's like people respect him there. He has like a good time there. He's got clicks and shit. Yeah, I would believe that celebrity. He's a wise old man.

He's got a, he's charismatic. Oh, for sure. So he's got crazy rape stories. Apparently, he raped like 55 girls. I'd sit around for some of those stories. Yeah, yeah. And like famous celebrities. And also, he's telling these crazy rape stories.

And it's one of the greatest storytellers of all time. Right, that riveting, riveting. You're probably like, and they're like, what next, what next pops? Oh man, that's crazy, but true. I come in the room, she passed out. I just remember when he was going to jail, you guys looked this up, he goes,

he did a fat Albert call. Yes, that was the best. That was good. He's walking, not reading good like walking out reading the room Not reading the room at all So good. Yes, this is his honest way to jail Any drops that hey hands, but yeah, it's played anyway He's having a party yeah love that about that that's both good. Oh my god. Hey time. Big time, don't give a fuck.

Yeah. So, where are you hoping to be around the age 80? Just getting out, you know, just getting out of prison? Yeah. Serve my time, did my thing, checking in on one of my families I got going and just- Would you accept the guilt or would you say, I'm holding strong? Well, like, when it's not you, it's all right,

I see his situation, I'm like, you fucking idiot, just get out, like go butt. So invested in- He's so invested in his story, his narrative that he created. But how do you face your kids and your wife? But you could just go- You realize how many people-

I just said it to get out. Yeah, you could. There's so wife? But you could realize how many people you could get out. Yeah, you could. There's so many people. And you could say that publicly. You could be like, I had to get out. There's all kinds of people that think that this is a huge conspiracy theory, which is another hilarious one.

So wait, let me get this straight. You think like 57, 50, like random, like conspired to get there? It's just their word versus. It's like at what point? Yeah, I mean like what? You know what's the one that still blows my mind? People are so defensive about Michael Jackson still. Yeah.

And it's so clear to me, and I'm sorry, because I know this is a sensitive issue. People get really defensive about this. It's so clear to me that Michael Jackson was a prolific child rapist. Yeah. He had little boys, by the way, you ever see him hanging out with any fat kids

and you ugly kids? No, only beautiful little boys. Yeah. And they would sleep in his bed, done. Sarah bed with a child's a beautiful thing. What is the chance is that Michael Jackson sharing a bed with kids all again and again and again,

and not even at least flicking their penis, like giving it a little like. Yeah. Yeah. Zero. I know. Zero, do you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

And so people carve out this like a match, this, this doubts like because they're so desperate to believe, but it's like if that was anybody else. They have elaborate defenses for him. Everybody's a liar, everybody's a cloud chaser. Yeah, everybody's just trying to bring them down and ruin them and destroy it.

I always wonder when they're like, do you think people really spend their time just designed? Like that happens, but so many people want to design a story. It doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. And I'll tell you why. This is what you hear on YouTube a lot. And this is kind of the victim blaming mentality that you hear all the time, which it's the number

one thing you hear to defend predators, but it doesn't make any sense on its face. Is that the person doing it is doing it for attention, for cloud, for whatever whatever reason like that, like to for publicity. The truth is, when you're coming out against a huge celebrity and accusing them of sexual assault, this has no positive effect. This is only a negative effect on your life every time. Nobody has ever gotten anything but negative attention from accusing someone of sexual assault. Right.

Ever. When, name one, name one time. The truth is people that come out like that are afraid and they know that they're gonna get horrible, horribly, they're gonna get horribly judged and said horrible things about them. Yeah, and your life's probably gonna get ruined.

Yep, exactly. And they're usually doing it out of a space of feeling like, well, there's a lot of reasons, I guess, but one of them that's really fucked up is they feel guilty knowing that they can do something to prevent it happening to someone else. And so that is what you hear the most. And on its face, it just literally doesn't make any sense. I know.

How do you feel? Because this is something that comes up a lot with these types of stories. How do you feel about his music? Michael? Yeah. Will you listen to a song? I love his music. Yeah. So, I don't know. No. Well, it's like, you know, I hear it in the department store or something and I'm like, yeah, you know, you can't help it. But yeah, I mean, it's one of the time old questions right the art from the artist. Yeah. Cause they'll say this.

That came up with Woody Allen, with Woody Allen. Such a mother fucking creep, dude. That means the creep. He's such a creep. I'm not watching any Woody Allen moves. I'll tell you that. Well, he's such a creep that like I could, you know, I couldn't get through the dock.

I watched it. I was like, but I wanted to end at certain points. Yeah, I was like, I don't, I did the same thing with the Mike, I'm doing it. They still defend Woody for the same reason. They say, oh, she's doing it for attention. She's doing it out of spite. Yeah.

Bro, he's own fucking daughters in the documentary. He's saying he, yeah, like Jake Paul from the, the one that I was always like, the one that always got me to where I was like, Hollywood is so disgusting is the Roman Polanski one. Because Polanski, you know, people will bring up the detail of what a judge,

so for people who don't know, he had sex with a 13 year old girl in a hot tub after a photo session and drink giving her like champagne and they had sex, right? He gets arrested, he gets charged with, I forget the exact charge. The judge at that time said that like he's going to, I don't remember if it was like kick it down or give him, like basically you're not gonna go to prison.

Right? I'm paraphrasing these details. That judge either retires or is off the case, another judge comes in. Well, he's like, well, that guy said, I wasn't gonna go to prison. So when he's out on barely supposed to go back for a court appearance, he flees the country, right?

And he's up spending the last 40 plus years. He's still working, right? In France, right? And then in that time, all these people that have worked with him, like Hollywood actors, producers are like, he's the greatest, he's such a great guy. And I'm like, you know what's interesting

is that if he were fucking Roman the UPS driver and the same story came out, I don't think he would be like, he's the fucking greatest guy. You still think of him as a guy who fucked a 13 year old girl when he was a grown-ass man. I mean, and he's a great film. He's a brilliant filmmaker. And yeah, you could, but it's just so strange

that people are like, but he's solid dude. And you're like, what do you mean he's a solid dude? Who do you know that's a solid dude that does that? Right. I think you could say the same thing. You know this guy Brian Singer. He's probably been cancelled. Is he? Is he done? He's not really getting work anymore. He had a lot of accusations. Oh, similar to open secret documentary. Yeah. About how Brian Singer would have like parties where they were panning out drugs like ecstasy and there was young boys there and it was just a fuck fest with young boys young models. The guy is like the worst

of the worst from from what I learned of this documentary. A singer directed like major movies right. And he made all the X-Men movies. Okay. This was an open secret like people the biggest actors in the world were working with them up until a few years ago. Yeah, because they're all more interested in what they're in their careers. Singer accused in a civil lawsuit of sexual assault of a minor according to the Sioux filed by Singer, L.I. Shev drugged and raped, actor and model. Yada, yada, blah, blah, blah. It's all a bunch of shit like that. And you know what's weird about this guy too? Everybody who tried to charge him for a crime,

suing for a crime was just mysteriously dropped. By their agencies and stuff? By the lawyers. Oh, by the lawyers. Yeah. Every single time. Yeah, here it is, an open secret. every single time. Yeah, here it is, an open secret. He used to have underage sex parties hosted by singer and fellow director Roland Emmerich. Who's Roland Emmerich? I think this

guy actually may have gone to prison. Maybe not. Lighting up for his disaster films, it's been almost the worst of English language, have made more than three billion worldwide. I never heard this motherfucker. The fuck did he make? Patriot? Oh. Oh Godzilla, that day after tomorrow.

Okay. So, you know, people will grind singers. Like, I feel like everybody knows about this guy. And if you go look at his IMDB page, huge actors, huge studios, X-Men, Dude is a superstar in Hollywood. Do you find the way, do you feel like, I feel like you're somebody who you call shit out, a lot, like things that, you know, like misbehavior, or like, you know, you're one, like,

do you, do you have this thing where you feel that this is gonna be a confrontation, like at home I'm saying, like, something starts bothering you, is your wife like, oh, are you gonna do, are you gonna say something about this? Like, is that a regular thing? No, I think that's my whole stick. What, confronting? Then I just, I, I talk, yeah, yeah.

I mean, from the beginning, it's all like everything we do is just... You call out bullshit. Yeah, because like you would break down people's content. I think there are certain things that ELA does want me to talk about that we talk about before. But it's usually like personal stuff, not like, oh, let's call out this fucking pedophile. Yeah, yeah.

But you're drawn to calling this stuff out, right? I mean, I think so because... A lot of people avoid, you know? I think, well, it does get me into trouble a lot. I'm being sued right now. Right. I remember there's this guy in New York $50 million.

New York Times. New York Times. New York Times paper. New York Times paper. Yeah, they said that that guy is a big Paul. Yeah. I remember that. Sourced.

Very reliable newspaper said he's a rapist. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And Trillers working with him. That's a rapist. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, and Trillers are working with him. That's even crazier. Trillers, that's like their main guy. And they're going to be trying to raise money.

They're going to be doing rounds of money because they're probably hemaging money. And they're going to have to tell their investors, their potential investors that one of their price horses was a rapist of pie the New York Times, New York Times alleges that. Yeah. Pretty wild. Not me, I know.

I would never say that. I know. God forbid, that's a horrible thing to say about a person. But if you don't have evidence. You recently though, the New York Times, they have their own evidence. I mean, they did that, they sent out journalists. I stopped my business, they have their own evidence. I mean, they did that, they sent out journalists. I stopped my business.

I'm not a journalist. No, but I mean, they have some of the best in the world. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they said. High level journalists. But like you, well, for your own, in your own life, I mean, the James Charles thing, you called out, obviously it affects your life.

Like that was like, the accusation was, hey, you're copying our shit. But I mean, you're not saying you're called out, obviously it affects your life. That was like the accusation was, hey, you're copying our shit, but I mean, you're not somebody that I ever felt like, I mean, I know you're not scared of it. You go right at things. Like, you go right at them. I think there's something wrong with me, I think. Genuinely, and that I don't process the consequences of things.

Very, that's not true, but I think it's just, I don't process the consequences of things very, that's not true, but I think it's just, I don't know, I don't like when people like, I don't like getting dicked around by people one. Yeah. You know, like this Matt Hosky, he came at me, he asked for $4,000 and I'd said, go fuck yourself. Yeah. I could have got out for $4,000,

it was two years of absolute fucking misery, ends up costing $200,000. Yeah, I could have got out for $4,000. It was two years of absolute fucking misery ends of costing $200,000 Yeah, but that by the way that detail of go fuck yourself is one that resonates with me because I feel like I feel like every comic would take your position every comedian's like no fuck you. Yeah, it's part of like I Just don't want it. I just don't like the feeling of someone being able to fuck me around. And so, I don't think I've ever allowed someone to fuck me around and I'll continue to keep doing that. And like, obviously, I don't know. I don't know. I don't have that filter. I just don't. Yeah. Yeah, you don't. And people like it too, so I was just entertaining. It's super entertaining.

And it's something that I like doing. What's the, what's the guy that you put on? And I've never raped anybody. You never have, I know. Me neither, by the way. I like, by the way. Well, I wouldn't say unlike, but, because I don't know for sure, but if you read The New York Times.

Then you would see the other guy, but you but you you you called out what's his name David No brick. Yeah for like bullshit as well. The David Dobrik story was really interesting because I didn't know anything about him and my impression over on pression of him was that he I liked him. Mm-hmm And that he was fine You know and so when I became close with Trisha, she had horrible experience with them. I didn't know anything about that. So it started with Trisha doing an episode

where she explained everything she went through. And as she tells it, she had a mental breakdown. Dealing with him? She was dating Jason Nash, who's like, David's right hand man. okay, and they just like They just like tossed her aside Didn't she was like best friends with them all for two years and then when she had like this mental breakdown They just tossed her aside never contacted her didn't give a fuck about her and

She was like really traumatized by her relationship with David and Jason. And so I was learning all this new stuff. I then comes out of the woodwork, this guy, Big Nick, who used to be a member of the vlog squad, and he came called into the show to interview. So this is all new to me. Right, so you're discovering this as it, yeah.

I'm just, I'm just kind of like there's this thread and I don't know anything about any of this and I didn't expect it to go where it did So big Nick calls any says they would bully me. I felt horrible I felt like suicidal at one point this is the lowest I've ever felt and I just had to get out I was like, okay, this is interesting story about kind of the dynamic of the vlogs what and David and then this other guy Seth comes out David did this like super viral prank where he kept convincing this guy, Seth,

that he was making out with like this model and it ended up being Jason Nash. And Seth tells that it was like really traumatic for him because they had like a hardcore makeup session, like hardcore and he thought it was this like model. And it was Jason Nash. Right. And they did it to him twice.

Twice. So the first time was really traumatic, and David knew that, and he was like, he felt like horrible, and he didn't, he just, he didn't know how to feel about it. And so they did it to him a second time, this elaborate prank, right? Where they, the, it's hard to, it's hard to get mad at David

on the face because the prank is so amazing. They convinced him he got this ad for beef jerky. And this is like over months and months. And they're like vetting him and interviewing him. And they're like, we're gonna pay you $3,000. He's like awesome, upset for the month like on rent. So this is something that he's dealing with for like months. He's really invested in he told his family. He's super excited about and he goes in To shoot the commercial and like all these gorillas come out and he's shooting the commercial. It's like super professional looks like

There's no way to know that this is a prank and then then a nut monkey finally comes out and starts making out with it. It's Jason Nash again. They got him again, but the worst part, the horrible thing is that like after that, David's like, we got you, prank, and then he's like, yo, are you gonna still pay me the 3000? Cause I was like kind of planning on getting that money

and David's like, no, no, come on. And it's like, it was such a fucked up. Yeah. It was such a fucked up. Yeah. It was such a fucked up thing to treat someone like that. That story kind of blew my mind and got some traction, but it still wasn't enough to ruin his career or anything. What really happened after that was the big one was the insider, then, on the tale of all all these kind of people started talking

and they asked him questions about like, is this really ethical what's going on in his inner circle? The insider talked to a girl, a group of college girls who were in one of David's vlogs and one of his like vlog squad they call him, is this guy, Dirty Dom, who she says, raped her when she was blackout drunk. And David included it in the video. And the details of it is really crazy because apparently they were trying for a video

to set up like a three-sum and they asked a bunch of fans to come. And they didn't actually wanna have sex. So they were underage and someone got them, went and got them alcohol and they got blackout drunk. These under age drinking girls, they're like 18, 19. And then they black out and don't sleep with them. And she's like puking everywhere afterwards.

And then so David cuts it into like this vlog where it looks like everyone's having a great time. And don't like fuck, he's the man, he had a three-sum, and they even go back the next day and film to make it look like it was like a whole something where like Dom was all sweaty. He's like, I just had a three-sum because the girl was like black out drunk and puking

and he like still included it. So like super crazy. And so wait, then this gets out. Like I this was not out before. This was a new story. This detail was not out. Came out by the insider then this gets out like I this was not out before this was a new story I was an out came out by the insider put this story out that like was really Got traction. It was a really disturbing story. Wow You know and and then there was like another huge thing is that his another member of the vlog

Swadd this guy Jeff Wittic had got this mysterious eye injury where he almost died. He almost lost his eye. His face was stitched up and he was like, I'm not telling anyone how it happened. So he finally came out now on the tail end of all this is that it was for a David Dobrik vlog vlog. He went and got an excavator out on a lake without the license, without supervision, without insurance, without medics.

And he put him on a string and was spinning him super fast. David himself was doing it. Spinning him around really fast. He has no training, by the way, on a huge excavator, stops it immediately and Jeff slams into the excavator arm at 60 miles per hour, drops into the water and almost dies. As life, he has even, I think he has some brain damage as well.

He looks like it. It's horrible, man. And then the thing is he covered it up, they covered it up. And David went on with his life being like this huge media personality and Jeff was basically having a life changing injury that, like god that like kind of he disappeared for and what did he do before like he was just a comedian of logger youtuber holy shit man and so that's by the way look at that one of the left that's David showing up as the Joker to the hospital because he looked like two face.

And then interestingly, Jeff kind of gave a similar report is that like he felt abandoned by them once he was injured. Yeah. Which, that's the worst part probably, I'm sure, right? To go through that and then be like, he said in his documentary, it was super hard for him to be like in the worst place He's ever been in his life and then watching David go on to be like

Huge success and everybody loving him and nobody even knows how he was injured It's all been covered up and this find this came out during the time. Yeah, this came out the latest thing So that was the sequence of that's so that's a lot of shit piling on someone. I've never seen some a shit pile on He is he done? Rumor has it, he's gonna try to come back, but I don't know how that's gonna go. Wow. But that was crazy.

Yeah, it was crazy. It was just a crazy wild ride, how that all went down. That's, yeah. But these YouTubers, they're trying to act like they're this big studio Like David always says about his vlogs. It's not it's it's a movie. It's like a movie It's like well, dude. You don't have a producer. You don't have like HR you don't have safety protocols. You don't have a medic. You don't have permits

Well, that's the excavator thing is so dumb. It's illegal, it's so dumb, it's so reckless. It's so reckless, it's so reckless. So it's like, you're not a movie, you're just some fucking dude, some like psychopath that's trying to make crazy content and you're not thinking logically, safely. So this is what's happening in the Influenza world, it's like all these people get huge.

And then there was, by the way, I mean, from an entertainment standpoint, it was very entertaining to watch your back and forth with a Keemstar. Oh, really? Well, yeah, of course, because from the standpoint of like, I go into it not knowing any of this.

So you go like, this is like, this is like learning like a subject, man. Can you talk about like the series I made on it? The series, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, it was like, it was a worse person alive. There you go. Kim Star is actually like a dangerous psychopath. Yeah.

I mean, all this was like news. These people, I feel like to an extent, these people, Kim Star is whatever. I talk about him so much, but yeah, he's a psychopath. He's done shit that's like unforgivable and he should be in jail. Yeah, you're the way you broke it down. And then like, yeah, there was like a whole back

and forth with you guys, it was really wild, man. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, the thing is about this guy, the worst thing he's done, I mean, he's done so many bad things, but there was this guy, The worst thing he's done, I mean he's done so many bad things, but There was this guy Edeka

Who was bipolar, but loved in YouTube community and then he he tragically took his own life But the details of how Kim start used him during that manic state and Brought him on his show for entertainment and then ultimately how during one of the interviews Kim Star tells him this is Edica comes back from their relationship is long and exhaustive so I'm just give you the readers digest. He was in and out of like mental institutions and on the he gets out of one and immediately calls into Kim's star show. Right? And it's he's clearly in the midst of a manic episode.

Like it's so obvious. He's saying shit like I am God. I'm reborn. Whatever, you know, really delusional stuff. And Kim's and his Kim starts talking about simulation theory with him and he goes, if everything's a simulation, why don't you just jump off a cliff or a bridge? He said something like that. And so, well, a few months later, that's how this guy died. Is that he jumped off, I think he jumped off for a bridge. And in his suicide video video he mentions Kim star

Like he he mentions that like he's like hey, we're dude. Kim. That's like the first thing He mentioned in his suicide video was like Kim star were good like he was like sore tormented by him is that He was thinking about him on the way to the fucking bridge Jesus man and thinking about him on the way to the fucking bridge. Jesus man. And so this guy is literally bullied people. I think it's a fair interpretation to say that this guy has bullied people into actually being involved in people's...

Yeah, suicide. Christ, imagine if the two-year-old New York Times got a hold of him. Yeah, well, the article. People are actually scared to talk about him because he's actually like a lie. He's actually like a psychopath. I'm one of the only people that will openly talk about this guy

because he will go out of his way to ruin your, he will lie and he'll ruin your fucking life. This is what I wanted to talk about. What do you think, what is your draw? Like we were talking about, people are scared of people. Let's say you don't have to do specifically him. Just of, you know of people like this. Like, why do you think that you are not fearful?

So I've noticed that over the time that I've known you, that like, you always feel to me like you have a real, like, clear moral compass. Like I feel like you're a good gauge for like, right and wrong. I've even asked, like you think this is the right thing to do. And like, what? Why do you think that you don't fear what so many people do, which is like getting on the bad side of somebody with influence? Autism? I don't know. High functioning autism. I don't know. What's the answer? Yeah. Yeah. No, that's a legit answer. I knew, I mean, I'm thinking, you know,

growing up, there was like, my dad was always about like doing the right thing. That was like a big part of like growing up. It's like do the right thing, always do the right thing. Yeah, but you do. I think I always read that from you. Thank you. I try And so it's like do that so so there's that part of me

And I think there's another part of me that just doesn't like to take shit from people there we go Yeah, I think that's the part that like It's like resonates with a lot of people and it's exciting to a lot of it's like I will I don't know I just can't And I'm too deep in it now to ever take shit for any reason. Well, you definitely cannot take shit. You know, I can't wait till you- I can't wait till you and Bezos get into it. Oh no, Bezos is gonna fucking

launch my whole house into space. Dude, imagine if your next beef is with like a billionaire. Well, actually, that actually may be going down with this Triller lawsuit. Really? I'm not ready to talk about it, but it may be being funded by billionaire.

Seriously? Yes. So my next beef may well be with a billionaire. Oh my God. So yeah, this is such a great teaser for whatever you do next that I'm telling you. It's this Triller lawsuit is gonna be a fucking blood bath really If it goes to litigation. Yes, it's gonna be absolute blood bath. Oh my god. I'm so excited

I'm I am I'm trying to I'm my thing is like I'm just gonna make the best of this Yeah, cuz I know how horrible it is. I'm telling you it's horrible to get sued. I'm sure. The last one was a fucking nightmare. Exhausting. So this one, I'm just I'm going into it being like, okay, if we have to litigate this first of all, I'm in the right. Yep. I know I'm in the right. If I wasn't, I wouldn't fight it. Yeah. And so I'm just gonna make the best of it. And I'm gonna fucking, I'm gonna, yeah. See me, Bob left.

Yeah, man. You know, I'm, look, I'm front row for whatever you do. I'll tell you about it off camera. Let's do it. Honestly, thank you for coming by. Thank you for doing this. It's always good to see you. I miss you guys, miss your family. Yeah, no, be fun to hang with me. Thank you guys doing this. It's always good to see you. I miss you guys, miss your family.

Yeah, no. It's fun to hang with you guys too. And shout out to the New York Times. Shout out to the New York Times. A great album. Amazing research. They don't just put things out without vetting. No, it's a serious paper.

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