2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer - The Content Machine w/ Kountry Wayne | 2 Bears, 1 Cave Ep. 192

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

SPONSORS:- Go to https://Saatva.com/theshit to get $200 off ANY mattress of your choice.We have another episode of 2 Bears 1 Cave with Bert Kreischer and guest bear Kountry Wayne. Kountry tells us abo...ut his 10 kids, growing up selling cocaine, and loving food. They talk about women, Kountry Wayne’s journey, cars and music. Kountry Wayne sheds some light on his content and what it was like to work with Lil’ Boozy and TI. They talk about Kountry’s character “Drip,” how it compares to Bobcat Goldthwait, and how Kountry developed an audience. They discuss embracing the internet and making content they’re proud of.https://tomsegura.com/tourhttps://www.bertbertbert.com/tourhttps://store.ymhstudios.com/

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Starting point is 00:02:23 Can't tell you, do your friends with D-Ray Davis, right? Yeah, D-Ray Davis, yes. D-Ray Davis is, he is the quintessential hustler in comedy. That guy, I don't know what stories he's told me that are secrets, and what stories that he told me that are public, but he, to put some backstory, he was doing Monday night shows in Chicago and walking out with 30 grand in cash
Starting point is 00:02:45 and a Gucci backpack. Yeah, yeah, he a hustler, man. He still put together his own shows where he'll bring comedians and be the promoter. So yeah, D-Ray definitely a hustler. D-Ray is a hardcore hustler. And I gotta be honest with you, the next generation of that.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Yeah, man, you got 10 kids, so you know, you got a... 10 kids. Let's start there. Can I ask you a question that I hope you don't take offense, dude, but I think kids, so you know, you got 10 kids. Let's start there Can I ask you a question that I hope you don't take offense, dude But I think I would have a hard time doing can you name all your 10 kids right now go? Yeah, Tony take my Malia Alia Christiana Nazari Honest honest Kiyomi Taylor and It's one missing
Starting point is 00:03:25 I got I got nine uncles and I've known my whole life and I couldn't name them. I was like 10 kids. How the, so wait, you had your first kid at 22? No, 17. 17. I had seven kids about age of 22. You had seven kids by the age of 22?
Starting point is 00:03:39 Yeah, up in the culture time, we had no cables or we had one thing in it. One stop light. One stop light, man. One stop light, no condoms, no cond, so we have one thing to do. One stoplight. One stoplight, man. One stoplight, no condoms. No condoms, man. Condoms were expensive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:49 But child support was more expensive, so yeah, I should have been thinking long-term. So when you had your first kid at 17, did you think, I could get into this? Oh, I was scared every child that I had, should have named, should have been damn. Not again, you know the beat. That's why I named my child before last honest, because she was the only one that was honestly, I was living honest. Every time.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Well, you know, man, oh, no kids, bro, I didn't mean to have either. They just haven't, man. I would love to have 10 kids. Yeah, it's amazing now, man. You know what I mean? You're 35. 35. 35 with 10 kids. Dude, you got amazing now, man. You know what I mean? You're 35. 35. 35 with 10 kids.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Dude, you got retirement in the bag. One of those kids is got your DNA and is gonna make up millions of dollars. I hope so, man. I've been watching them. It's not all of them. I'm telling you, man. I'm telling you not.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I've been watching, damn. I just, it's okay. This one up. God, okay. Yeah, but. I got one of those and I'll be paying for it for okay, this one up. God, okay. Yeah, but. I got one of those and I'll be paying for it for the rest of my life. You know which one it is, too.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Yeah. She wants to go look at colleges and I went, really? Are we sure? Yeah, my son just went to college. He went to junior college, man, to play basketball. Oh, yeah? Wait, how was your oldest? He's 17. 17? Yeah. God damn, that Oh yeah? Wait, how was your oldest? He's 17.
Starting point is 00:05:05 17? Yeah. God damn, that's, so now how many, how many baby moments? Oh, five I think. Five you think? Is there a possibility of a straight country waiting child floating around?
Starting point is 00:05:16 I hope not. It was one that, it was a girl I dealt with in high school. She said 14-year-old songs, man. Oh, for real? Yeah, I went to San Antonio Texas to see, but he wasn't though. Yeah, he wasn't. And it's crazy the mother had went through
Starting point is 00:05:32 the change general process. I didn't know. So when I got them, like, I got a baby daddy. I didn't even know. I was confused for real. This really happened. Wait, for real, the mother transition? Yeah, she transitioned.
Starting point is 00:05:45 She transitioned. Not all the way, but she was on the outside. She kind of be with that first time you've ever heard one black dude looking at another black dude going, you have my baby. Yeah, man, in fact, she was a white girl. Oh, she was white? Really?
Starting point is 00:05:59 Oh, interesting. Yeah. I wonder what percentage of white, I wonder what percentage of the black community transitions versus the white community? Oh no, I don't really know, but she cool, man, her cool. Like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. Because hold on, for people that don't know, because I'm a fan, you've been making, you've been making internet material,
Starting point is 00:06:28 Facebook material for a long time. You're like one of the first OGs in content. 2014, October when I started. Yeah, and then the pandemic kicked in and you doubled down in your game, and that's when you really kinda, that's when everything, so let's hang on, let's back up. I wanna just back up, so what were you doing?
Starting point is 00:06:50 I know what you were doing once you, from 17 before that happened, and selling drugs. Yeah, I was selling drugs. Yeah, and so I'm fascinated by the amount of, and I wonder if it's cause of our community, meaning like in the comedy community, not a lot of people, not a lot, there's seldomly do you hear like a Greg Drawer
Starting point is 00:07:09 where like I was a Harvard lawyer and then I became a comic. Most of us were like, I wasn't doing shit. Like Byron Bowers, he was selling drugs, Miss Pat was selling drugs, everyone I know was selling drugs, but like I'm fascinated by the drug game because it seems like it's super accessible. Like meaning you can, it's easy to get into.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yes, easy to get into man. The only thing you got to do is have a school check, an income tax refund, and you and the game. Really? And so do you, did you start with marijuana? No, I've went straight to cocaine. Really? Yeah, marijuana was too slow.
Starting point is 00:07:42 The money was too slow. Really? That's what I would have done. I would have been marijuana and changed my lifestyle. They stayed, they stayed high too long with marijuana. Really? Yeah, marijuana was too slow. The money was too slow. Really? That's what I would have done. I would have been marijuana and changed my lifestyle. They stayed high too long with marijuana. Really? Yeah. Oh, you concocted? You know cocaine. No cocaine was the fast money.
Starting point is 00:07:54 That's what my uncles and dad did them all sold. A lot of my uncles did. So they was my first customers. For real? Yeah. I had a lot of in-house customers. So I got to sell cocaine. Would you ever done cocaine? Nah. Oh, for real? I had a lot of in-house customers. So I got to see a cocaine. Would you ever done cocaine? No.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Oh, for real? No. Oh, it's so good. I never did it. For real? Oh, it's really delivers. Like all the things that promises, like you know how you go to a New Year's Eve party
Starting point is 00:08:18 and you're like, I thought it was gonna have more fun. Yeah. If cocaine's there, that New Year's Eve party is everything you wanted it to be. Yeah, yeah. Cocaine, that's so good about it. I never did it. And people with shock, that news, if party is everything you wanted it to be. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, cocaine. That's sold, but I never did it. And people were shocked I didn't do it either, because everybody in the town knew my family.
Starting point is 00:08:30 My family had did it. So much, yeah. So. And so, uh, we're in Georgia, I'm on a map in Georgia where you ask, my wife from a small town, my wife is, we find out how many people grew up in the last town. I think it was 1200.
Starting point is 00:08:43 1200? Oh, see, yeah. We're a little bigger than that. We was like 3000. So you guys are, like, Liam was growing up in a place called Bowden, Georgia. Bowden, Georgia? Oh, 21, 20.
Starting point is 00:08:52 You're white from Georgia too? Yeah, my wife from Georgia. That's what's up. What's part of the reason, like, I feel like I'm drawn. Where, where you from? I'm from Tampa. Yeah, but you got, yeah, you got his southern, yeah. No, no, what you know what you're hearing? Sometimes when I talk to black guys, you got his Southern yeah, no, no, what you know you're hearing
Starting point is 00:09:09 Sometimes when I talk to black guys I do a little bit like I gotta be honest with you I do it. I can't I can't help it. I was doing on TV. I didn't even realize I did it Yeah, but I do it. I do it and I watch other people do it and I I see them do it I go oh god like Tommy does it bad. Yeah, Tom does it really bad. Yeah, it's up It does it sounds like he goes it really bad. Yeah, Tom does it. Tom's like, he goes there. He'll be like, damn. But yeah, she's from Bowden, and so 2200. And then you're from...
Starting point is 00:09:32 We're from... We're from Millen, Georgia. We're from Millen. It's between August and Savannah, right? Okay. I know where that is. Yeah, so it's kind of south of Atlanta. South of Atlanta by Staceburg,
Starting point is 00:09:44 you have Millen, Georgia, right? Staceburg joy. Yeah, Millen George right? Yes, Staceburg is one of the is that with the almond brothers are from? Yeah, hello, you know, they got the on the blues. They said yeah, yeah, George is an interesting fucking place. Yeah, because it really is, it really in my opinion, you know, the Florida is so flat. Do you ever, did you go to Florida much as again? Yeah, we used to go to Florida day out a kid? Yeah, we used to go to Florida a lot of day out of time. Yeah. It's Florida, it feels like someone built it. You know, Georgia feels like it's been there forever.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Like, especially those small towns where you drive through, I'm sure this is in Milan, but you drive through that one stoplight and you see the glass windows of the stores. For sure. Those were here forever. For sure. Those were here for sure. For sure. Is it crazy to you?
Starting point is 00:10:26 It's so funny, not funny. But when I think of racism in the South and you think of a town that like lands there was 12, 2100 people. Oh yeah. They knew each other. Yeah, but how could they still be racists when they were that, they knew each other.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I think it was more of a trend. I think that's what it was. And they just took the longies to get out of that. But that's how I knew even when Trump was going to win. Yeah. When people was worried about him, like, he might not win. I'm like, no, I know his cousins. I know I grew up with, he's going to win.
Starting point is 00:10:55 So because I grew up with those and we kind of like, it was like racism, but it was like a family at the same time. Yeah. Inside the world, when we leave that time, we see each other somewhere else in the city, we come together. Because we all feel like the same time. Inside the world, when we leave that time and we see each other somewhere else in the city, we come together, because we all feel like outcasts. But in those times, man, it's racist to the T.
Starting point is 00:11:11 What was the demographic makeup of your high school? To my, how many people was in high school period? Like, or just, no, like black, white. Black, white, it probably, oh, I say 50, 50, for real. Probably more like, probably 60, 40 40 more white people really yeah, and and did you like my wife had never had Chinese food We had Chinese white Chinese food rabbit squirrel Liz and Liz had Liz had squirrel rabbit. Yeah frog frog Now I didn't eat the frog my chicken ate chicken feet. Yeah. Chicken feet, me, I ate everything.
Starting point is 00:11:46 We ate, you know, black people, we eat everything out of pig, and we could catch the oink with it. We could put that oink in a pot. I love showing to my daughters when you go into Southern convenience stores, they got the barrel of pink, pink, pink, oh, yeah, pick a pig feet.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And I'm vegan now. So it is like, Are you really? Yeah, I'm vegan. I've been vegan since. Are you really? Yeah, I'm vegan. I've been vegan since 2015. Cause I ate so much of that stuff. Oh, dude, I actually can't eat pulled pork anymore. I feel like I feel like I'm dumb with pork, not bacon.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Like I feel like I'm dumb with pork. I can't, I fucking love bacon so much. If cock tasted like bacon, I would have bruised knees. I'd be me to induce a steamer. I'd just, ah, ah, ah, ah stage with eight chocolate, then you went on stage? No. No, but I'm trying that. Do you know what I've done?
Starting point is 00:12:49 I don't know if this is common knowledge, but Mitch Hedberg used to kill a bunch of vodka right before he did Letterman, so that it hit him when he was on stage. He liked the feeling of it hitting him. And I've done that before where I've been like, I want to say, so that it hit him when he was on stage. Yeah. He liked the feeling of it hitting him. And I've done that before where I've been like, I want it.
Starting point is 00:13:08 It's fucking phenomenal, but it's only good for like an eight minute set. Because then when you're done, you're like, okay, this is going on too long. I need to sober up. I can't, I'm not good at stand up drunk. I can do it, I can do it, but I'm not. You know one of the funniest clips I've seen you do.
Starting point is 00:13:24 What? You're talking about you, about a drinking can do it, but I'm not. You know one of the funniest clips I see you do. What, you're talking about the drinking. You like, I'm not, oh yeah. I'm never gonna quit drinking. That's like, I'm gonna stay here until no, I feel like I'm on the line of that health right now. Some dude was like, dude, I play that every time before we go out and party on Saturday night. I was like I wasn't I didn't you know you can't pick what goes viral you can't I wish you could because I'd be given inspirational speeches about
Starting point is 00:13:58 Fucking something But you said what everybody you said what everybody wanted to say like people people just, that was a good, like, I'm gonna say, man, you were so serious, man, the delivery on that was, hey, man, that was just hilarious, man. That's what I love about, it's what I love about life. I love when you, I can't express it enough, but I love the spontaneity of life. I love when you're not expecting something. I mean, even if it's as simple as like the other day,
Starting point is 00:14:22 my daughter was like, I was, I was home and she was home and she came downstairs. She was like, you want Taco Bell? That. Oh, man. I mean, I heart skipped a beat. And I was like, well, yeah, hold on. She goes, I've been scrolling the menu in my room. They got the Mexican pizza back. And I was like, for real? And so I was like, what's finding Taco Bell? Cause I'm a neat and Taco Bell in a while. And so we went and got a Taco Bell. And I just gave him 200 bucks. I was like, just surprise us. Just make it razzle bell.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah. And we fucked up Taco Bell. I felt sick of shit later. Yeah. That moment of the enjoyment of spontaneity, I'll never want to get rid of it. That's living though. Even when you're doing bad,
Starting point is 00:15:04 you might as well enjoy it, because whatever the punishment, I got to tell people all the time, just with bills. Like I'm not about the worry, ain't don't have the money. If I don't got the money for the bill, I'm not about the worry, because that's two things that's going wrong.
Starting point is 00:15:18 So yeah, so I believe in that, man, whatever you're gonna do enjoy it. Like I'm a vegan, but I don't tell people what to eat, because if I was eating a pork chop, and a vegan walked up to me, but you should that, man, whatever you gonna do, enjoy it. Like, I'm a vegan, but I don't tell people what to eat because if I was eating a pork chop and a vegan walked up to me, I'm like, you should be that man, this, I just pay $12 for this.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I'm about to enjoy me getting sick, I don't care. Yeah, so it's like, yeah, that's you living, man. But you, you's a liver. So, I'm a liver. I better watch my liver. Hey, so what, so what did 17 year old country Wayne look like? Just Wayne, were you always called country Wayne? No, I was Wayne then, but-
Starting point is 00:15:49 Just Wayne. Yeah, I was Wayne, but some people had caught me country and I hit with a Vener for a minute, but man, I was the guy that everybody trusted, though. Self-wimmed sometimes, but everybody trusted, man. Whether it was black people, white people, I was the guy, I was like the negotiator of life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:06 You know what I mean? I was the guy, I already had two kids on the way and I loved women, women is my thing. I always have been. You gotta identify your thing. Oh yeah, women, I told people, I chose my drug because there was no other drug better than a woman. They're filling when God gave, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:16:22 See, I don't mind. I have no problem. I have no problem with just with my one. Meaning like the prospect of all the shit that goes along with finding a new chick, it gives me anxiety. I was talking to Leanne about this last night at dinner with my daughter, Ila, which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:43 But I said, I said, you don't ever have to worry about me cheating on you. And if I do cheat on you, know that it will be with someone very respectable. It'll be like Angelina Jolie or Charlie's there on. Like, it'll be a good hell. Like, you'll be like, all right, I'm fine. Like, because I don't really,
Starting point is 00:17:01 even in college when I was like looking for a girl, I was always looking for a girlfriend. I always wanted to find one person to be with and fall in love with. Like, I'm a regular person. I don't want people to think that I'm preaching or that I'm holding with them now. I'll go to a strip club, we'll have a blast. I'll have a fucking great time.
Starting point is 00:17:17 My wife is very cool with that. But like, I'm not, it when it comes to like, where I show up at the end of the day, it's gonna be with her and it's gonna be with her forever, because I dig, I dig, like, I dig. The secrets you have with someone, the stories, the fact that you don't have to talk, like all the stuff that, maybe I'm not good at in real life,
Starting point is 00:17:41 like you just saw me, I don't like silence. I wanna talk. But there's times I should be silent and I can do that around the end. She makes me laugh. Like I like all that shit. And I'm a, I don't, I don't, and like I go, it's almost like a, imagine I, you find a really good, there's a bad analogy.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I hope she's not listening. But you find a really good fishing hole and you go, I enjoy catching bass. Yeah. I don't need to go tarping fishing. I don't need to go more than fishing. You're a blessed man. Oh, I enjoy catching bass. Yeah. I don't need to go tarping fishing. I don't need to go Marlin fishing. You're a blessed man. Oh, I need this.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I think every man wished for that for real. You found it, but I'm the type of person that I've dealt with a lot of women, but I'm beyond it. That's what I always wanted. And I've had relationships. I've been married before. And that's the best thing.
Starting point is 00:18:21 And nothing's more comfortable and feel better than security than when you got that person that you would instead of trying to find other people. I'm just trying to find that one. So, as anyone ever, cause here's part of the deciding factor and why I live like that. I always longed to trust someone,
Starting point is 00:18:43 meaning like I want, I love, the thing I love, there's a lot I love about my wife, and sometimes when I, I isolate certain things, it may sound like I'm ignoring other things. I'll say those so that everyone understands, I think she's beautiful, I think she's hilarious, all those, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, we had said it, we said it, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:03 She looks great naked. But like, there's all the things that you're supposed to say about women, when you're married for 20 years, you just, you kind of forget the one thing I love the most about her is I know that I can trust her. I trust her more than any human being in the world. That is the coolest feeling. They've done it.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I've had people try to do it with me and friends where they say, you know, your friends doing this and then you get worried. Am I getting fucked? Am I getting fucked? And then I only fuck with people that I trust you 100% anyone I don't. I can't fuck with you at all. And there's one person I know for a fact would legit fucking die for me. And she'd go broke with me, she'd live in a car with me. The only fucker is Leanne, that's the only motherfucker. Like she is, and I watched you, someone tried to say who broke up with who
Starting point is 00:20:02 on a fucking radio show one time. And I was just like, I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that. And what was cool, what I thought was cool that I couldn't deal with is, I knew you, in that conversation, you also didn't care. Like there was a real big sense of you not getting a fuck. Yeah. And you're like, okay, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I'm not there anymore is what matters to me. I heard that in your voice and I went, oh, I think she still cares. Yes, she cares, man. That's one thing about me, I don't care about, I don't never care about what people say. And if I'm with somebody, like if I'm here with you, I don't care about what nobody on the outside say,
Starting point is 00:20:39 it's me and Bert, you know, and I'm that type of person. I just don't care, I don't have one care in me. Who's it, no, I wanna, I don't have one care in me. No, I want, because I want to get to how you got to where you are. Because right now you're setting up to shoot your Netflix special. Your online presence is beyond impressive. You might be one of the highest earners I know in making creative content. Not just, I'm about content, but my content's all about driving.
Starting point is 00:21:05 They're all advertising for my standup. I wish I could do more of what you do. I wanna talk to you about boozy, I wanna talk to you about TI, I wanna talk to you about drip, I wanna talk to you. There's so much I wanna talk to you about, but I really wanna get to how you got to where you are, because that's the hardest part. Like if anyone's watching,
Starting point is 00:21:21 especially anyone that wants to get into comedy, there's a lot of people going like, how do you do it? My story's weird, unique in that I got discovered by Rolling Stone magazine. So my story is not gonna happen to you. Yeah. Like I got lucky, and I can, give you a week,
Starting point is 00:21:35 look, we can do the business talk and like we do behind the scenes all day long. But I'm curious about the guy you were, what is do you feel like you became a man? A man, real talk, I really feel like I became a man at 11 for real, I had to, but my mom died at 11. So I was like out there and I didn't have no boundaries. You know, I didn't have to come home at a certain time
Starting point is 00:21:59 so you had to restrict the shit. But how did she pass? Oh, she had a stroke. Yeah, she had a stroke at age of 32. Yup. So at that point, you know, when you're dad and out of... How many brothers and sisters? With her, I got more on my dad's side, but her was two.
Starting point is 00:22:12 My two sisters and me. I was the youngest. I'm the youngest on my mom's side, the oldest on my dad's side. Yeah. So I think, and to be honest, to connect with that story, to answer your question, when she died, we got a social security check. So we were for being broke. So I'm getting $200 a month now from my mom
Starting point is 00:22:29 or from heaven, so I'm like, oh my God, we thank you, you know what I'm saying? So I think to fast forward to what you're saying now, I think we got into this point of figuring out social media and all that because I want to figure out how to sit home and make money. Cause that's what you do You do you do I mean you tore a lot. Yeah, you tore a lot
Starting point is 00:22:48 But you do like the gym I think three months at home and shoot Is it three months at home and shoot a year's worth of content? Yeah, I shoot actually I shoot there just gets a one day and um and I pay on other people now to They've been dropping by my partners. I pay them per skit to drop skits on my page. So it's like my guy Mike, I gave him sits on the laws of skit. He do four or five skits a day. You know what I mean? So it's like your page is turning into a network? Yeah, it's a dope game. So I just I'm buying the outs for 600, but they flippin' for 18, 2000, 3000. You know what I'm saying? So it just, I applied everything I know to the internet
Starting point is 00:23:25 and the internet to me was the dope game all over again. I feel like I was on back selling drugs. And now the CIA wants to buy my out of Nicaragua and have you sell them just into your community because that's the way the business works. That's the way the business works. And you got to work within the guidelines, but I'm on the platforms or Facebook and stuff,
Starting point is 00:23:44 so they get in there for sale. It's Facebook and YouTube, get their percentage. So I'm working with the system. I ain't trying to build my own platform. So 11 years old, like, not to get too serious, but like, how, what's it like, what's it like losing a parent at 11?
Starting point is 00:24:00 Your parents living together at the time? Oh, nah. No, so you're just living with your mom and your sisters. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I felt like Kevin, I felt like Kevin, um, um, um, um, homalone. So it was like, it was sad and is at first and grief. Okay, hold on, that's your...
Starting point is 00:24:17 That's it. Like, I know you make movies, that's the fucking movie. An adaptation of homalone, but it's with, is your story of youth parents just dying. Yeah, it's the fucking movie. An adaptation of Home Alone, but it's with, is your story of youth parents' dying. Yeah, it's dying, man. And you've got to fucking, that's fucking insane. Kevin from Home Alone, keep going. Yeah, and emotions left.
Starting point is 00:24:35 It was like, well, nothing's going to happen worse than that. So I tried it, I was never scared to try anything. That, itself, for things things that I seen hurt her, because she's do cocaine, smoke weed, my uncles, my dad. So I stayed away from drugs, but I was just like, I had no fear, because that. So I was like a kid, dude.
Starting point is 00:24:58 The worst shit that's gonna happen happens to you all. They already happened. So I'm like, you know, I ain't doing that crazy. Like I ain't running from no card, nothing like that. I wasn't spasin' out. Yeah. But the fear was gone. Like the fear of life, I'm tryin' to hold on to something, man.
Starting point is 00:25:11 That was over with. So did you enter, did you, did you move in with your dad? I moved in for like two months, but he disappeared. Like he literally, I went to my cousin house where the summer came back, he was gone. I moved in with my grandma. I wish I could put my, like, I'm sorry that I'm so, I'm asking my questions.
Starting point is 00:25:27 What did it, like, I know what Leanne's hometown looked like, and it was mostly like, for lack of a word, I apologize to anyone about it, if I'm under selling bound, there's nicer parts about it, but Leanne didn't grow there. Like, she grew up in like, more like, upgraded trailer park. Like, upgraded, I don't know the right way to say it. more like an upgraded trailer park.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Like upgraded, I don't know the right way to say it. I don't manufacture it. Manufacturer's home. Yeah. And so what did your house look like? What did you, what did you, what did you, we stayed in a tent, we stayed in a tent trailer man. Right by the railroad track, the railroad track was,
Starting point is 00:26:00 was 100 feet, 10 to 1, about 300 feet. And it's the, shake the trailer. Yeah, no air, you know what I'm saying? So it was like a 10 trailer. And summertime is hot. And the winter time is cold. And it was just,
Starting point is 00:26:17 And it does get cold as fucking Georgia. Oh man, it get cold. People forget that that's like the beginning for southerners from Floridians, we had hot it was hot all year round Georgia was a beginning of the North for us. Yeah, we were like oh you got mountains you got hills you got red clay Like this is like we're different demographic. Yeah, you don't have alligators anymore. Okay, you guys are the North Yeah, so it was 10 trailer man's poverty, you know, we had we had no money, so yeah Man, trailer man's poverty, you know, we had no money. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:45 That's crazy. And then so your mom passes, who do you get advice from? From like, I was like, I'm trying to figure out, I wanna pick apart, cause the thing is like all the formative years of me were done by my father, my uncle, and my other friend's father's like,
Starting point is 00:27:01 where you look and go, oh that's the man I wanna be. You can see hints of who I am today as a man based on my friends' dads and my dad and my other friend's father's like, where are you looking go? Oh, that's the man I wanna be. You can see hints of who I am today as a man based on my friends' dads and my dad and my uncle. You can see that. So like, at 11, who do you start getting advice from? Is it just your sisters or? No, my uncles, my uncles, my grandma,
Starting point is 00:27:16 I got advice from everybody, but my dad and my uncles when they were in a prime in the dope game. That's why I wanted to be. But they had started falling off after my mom died. But when they were in a prime, they was the guys that walked through with the money, the clean clothes, the good energy. Because none of my family was violent. We was hustlers, but guns wasn't our thing.
Starting point is 00:27:37 We were just like women and money. So yeah, it was my uncle's and my daddy. I was on, you know, and my uncles, I used to ask a lot of questions to all grown people, whether they had money or not. I pick out what I want from them, what I need to know, I asked my grandma, I'm like, grumma, what y'all like about me and back in the day, the day to the day?
Starting point is 00:27:54 And I applied that to today, because I knew before, I even read the Bible, I already knew that nothing's new under the sun. So I would listen to people. I'm a great listener. Like you horrible listener. Yeah. I might be the worst listener of life.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I'm the exact opposite. I would watch people and I would see the things I didn't like and I would just apply that to my life. Ah, Bert, you're the layers, man. I would just go like, I was like, ooh, I don't like this guy's throwing up in the front yard. He's in a grown-up. It's not looking.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Don't ever be the guy to throw up in the front yard. Don't ever be the guy to throw up in the front yard. Don't ever be the guy to throw it. I remember those moments. And to this day, there's a song by perfect sort of called Judith. And their opening line is, how I form my life. You're such a great example for the way that I never want to be.
Starting point is 00:28:38 And so I looked at those and tried to identify those and I was so funny, I never. And then the things I wanted, like I remember, I wanted an odd colored Mercedes Benz. Like I liked my buddy, came in a cruise dad, had a brown, a brown Mercedes Benz, like a brown, with a brown interior.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And I thought, that's cool. It's such a way to not give a fuck. You see people with the flashy colors cars and he rolls in and something, it's just, it said something about his personality. I didn't buy that car, I have bought cars like that, but the car I have now, I have a, has a chocolate interior and Leanne did like it and I went,
Starting point is 00:29:18 yeah, but that's why I like it. Yeah. And what did you see as a kid that you went, I'm gravitating towards that, I want want one of those or I need like my dad My dad had a grand national man like ten eight nine. I got one now I got a grand national steel, you know It's part of my garage now. There's a great. There's a grand national community. There's a dude. I follow I think I follow him through Carlos Carlos Miller. Yeah, I think I follow him through Carlos where the guy goes,
Starting point is 00:29:47 hey man, you guys keep asking, I'm not selling my grand national, but here it is. And he just shows it off every day. And I go, what are you showing it off for? What is it about a grand national that you like? Man, he's just got that style, man. It's looking, it got that jeep body, it got that lean tool, it got that talk tool.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And it just, that turbo is shhh, it whistles when you match the gas. And you know, it just got that thing. My dad had one and it's something about a grand national. Having heart has a grand national. Yep, get my heart hands one. All right, punching ground, I'm buying a grand national. Yeah, man, you got to get one.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I'm buying a grand, do you remember being driving in a grand national for the first time and being like, that and the only other one It was a was a Lincoln mark Five was the coolest car I've ever been in. It was a Lincoln Mark five No, it was not Lincoln
Starting point is 00:30:42 It was type in type in 80 type in 87 1987 Just I've been Lincoln Mark in the 1987 Can you believe I lived in the 90s? Yeah, that's the car. That was a badass fucking car Yeah, that purple one right there. It was two doors fucking that was a badass fucking car. That purple one right there. It was two doors, it was fucking, that was a badass fucking car. It's clean, man. It's like car that didn't have this thing to it. Yeah, and it was comfortable in the back seat,
Starting point is 00:31:15 but we were skinny then, so everything was comfortable. Yeah. And we rolled joints in that car, and you felt like you were untouchable. Yeah, man, nice car, man. It got that, you know, so that's what I like, the nice cars and clean, you know, you know, it's like to be clean.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Yeah. It's a, man, a car does so much for you. And it's funny, L.A. is a car culture. George is a car, I was trying to explain this to my buddy, you just met Jimmy. Mm-hmm. to my buddy, you just met Jimmy. I feel like our taste in music is based on cars. Because we took in, it's the same as tobacco.
Starting point is 00:31:55 It's all about the delivery system. So in the south, a lot of people dip because they're outside, they're dipping, they're doing stuff with their hands, so they have time to smoke cigarettes, so then that's their delivery system. It's due tobacco in your mouth. In New York, you're out, you're quick, they're doing stuff with their hands, so they have time to smoke cigarettes, so then that's their delivery system, it's due tobacco in your mouth. In New York, you're out, you're quick,
Starting point is 00:32:07 you're smoking a cigarette, there's nowhere to spit, because it's everyone, I remember when I moved to New York, I noticed no one dipped, so it's because you're spitting on the, it's gross, but in the South, you could just spit, so then all of a sudden I'm smoking cigarettes, and I'm like, well, this fuck is stupid, I don't smoke.
Starting point is 00:32:20 But at the same time, I realized the hip hop that I had grown up on was all meant to be taken in in a car. Outcast is a car, that is a car band. And then you go to New York and you're like, oh, Wu Tang clan, they want you to hear that in your ears. They don't give a fuck if you're in a car. I would argue Wu Tang doesn't play great in a car.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Like I'm that's me, by the way. So I can't believe I'm, you wanna talk about cultural appropriation? I'm a fifth year old white man explaining to a black man about hip hop. Mark this down in the things I get canceled for. But like that's one of the things I know this was like everything's a delivery system.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Like Dr. Dre Snoop, that's all feels to me. That's car music. Mm-hmm. And so, but I guess New York's the only thing. New York Philly. Dr. Dre Snoop, that's all feels to me, that's car music. And so, but I guess New York's the only, like New York Philly, like the, the fresh prince was like all very lyrical, but, we end so I listen into,
Starting point is 00:33:17 I, there's certain songs I can't listen to in my car. That makes sense. You know, especially Miami bass music, that's meant to be driven slow through, like that's, you know, it's... You got a dance to the side, you a deep thinker, but... I was up all morning thinking about this. I was up all morning thinking about how I was trying
Starting point is 00:33:40 to isolate my favorite moments in music. And why I veered from, like I'm not listening to hip hop right now. Right now I'm not. And I'm listening a lot of the grateful dead, but there's been periods of my life where I listen, I go into the grateful dead fish, Wilcoe, like all these like jam bands. And then there's times I go really thinking to hip hop.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And I'm trying to figure out for a joke, obviously why I choose hip hop at certain points in my life. And what hip hop and I'm trying to figure out for a joke obviously why I choose hip hop at certain points in my life and and what hip hop I've chosen and why I've chosen it and I was trying to isolate the first hip hop song I ever listened to. Yeah. Do you remember the first I mean I'm assuming it was in your house. Yeah, I think the first year were you born? I would born 1987. Okay, so I'll tell you what was 1987, there was the big thing in 1987 was jam on it. Do you remember jam on it? Jam on it. Jam on it.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Jam on it. Jam on it. Jam on it. It's a day comes a night and night turns a day. And jam on it. And then there was this band called Mantronics. They had this song bass baseline that was really popular. But I'm trying to go back to find the first hip hop song
Starting point is 00:34:52 that I listened to, that I went, that's it. I think mine was on that really listened to and pay the attention to, I think it was two pop. They two pop was, yeah. So that's gotta be, I'm a guest. 1990. Raise a blade. I'm a neat, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:08 1990, probably 95, I'm a guy. Yeah, when I really listen, cause I was, for some reason I always been an R&B guy. I was an R&B guy, man. I'm an R&B guy. Like what's the final R&B to me? Like, you mean like Luther Vandros and? Luther Vandros, people people like that, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:26 Whitney Houston Mariah Carey for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna R&B guy, I love the smooth R&B, good music. I like older Otis Redding, like, Okay, yeah, Otis Redding's a tragic story, you know, his story. Yeah, what happened?
Starting point is 00:35:44 He had one album out, I think it was on the out for like, not typing Otis writing is a tragic story. You know his story. Yeah, we're having he had one album out I think it was on the out for like not typing Otis writing he died He died he put out an album is one album and then he died immediately thereafter. I'm think I'll think of the right person How long after like I can eat months after putting out this fucking amazing. I know how did he die was? I Think go to go to his Wikipedia. I just picked my nose. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I just straight up picked my nose. Go to his Wikipedia. Go to his Wikipedia. This is discography. I did not know that man. That's crazy. Go to his Wikipedia. I got my white brother explaining to me
Starting point is 00:36:22 about a black legend artist. Go in and go in. Go to death. Go to death. Uh, death. 1967, there were, I think it was playing crash. There's a beach craft. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:36 He appeared on a beach television show. He's produced in Cleveland, but I think he'd only put out. I think he was very young in his career. Mm. 1967, see went his first hit, sitting on the dock of the bay was released in 1968. So I think everything was, came out posthumously. He died at 26 years old. He died at 26 years old.
Starting point is 00:36:58 That's so fucking young. I mean, technically it's not young back then. Elvis was like fucking 30 when he died, I think. But 26 then is all way older than us today, but like, you could do things less under a microscope. Exactly. You know, like, I just watched Elvis. Elvis was 42 when he died.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I just watched the movie, Elvis, have you watched it? Yeah, I watched it. I was like, well, I was blown away by just, how much he outright stole from my people. Like, it was like, you're like, oh, there's, he didn't write any of those songs. So he didn't, he just watched my people play the songs. I was like, I could do that. I mean, he literally took everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I mean, and then, and then, so does white people and white people, with the white establishment, hated it because they were like, he's doing black people stuff up here. Yeah. You're not, we don't want anything. It's a fucking insane to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:56 I movie made me cry. Yeah, and Dan Connard took a lot from him. Like, it's crazy. The Colonel was a fucking bastard. That was crazy, man. That dude was a bad fucking dude. Make it, make it, make it, make it, not, not, it's some good The kernel was a fucking bastard. That was crazy man. That dude was a bad fucking dude. You make it think man. It's not, it's some good managers and agents out there.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Let's give it up for managers and agents. But it do make you look at certain people funny. Okay, here's a question. Do you have that brain? Could you go full Elvis? Where you say, I'm gonna sign a deal with you, okay? $20 million a year. Don't worry about the rest of the money.
Starting point is 00:38:24 $20 million a year. You're gonna keep doing what you, okay? $20 million a year. Don't worry about the rest of the money. $20 million a year, you're gonna keep doing what you're doing. $20 million a year. Netflix special every 18 months. You're gonna do a movie every year. We need you to keep putting out content. I'm gonna put you on my schedule. You're getting $20 million a year. Don't worry about the rest of the money,
Starting point is 00:38:38 but I'm gonna get you $20 million a year. And you're on Elvis time. And could you give up knowing what happens behind the scenes? The way the Colonel was making all that money. I think a scene knows to clear his debt and unlimited gambling. Could you do that and just be happy? It's because ultimately this comes back to women. Yeah. It's like with Leanne. Yeah, I could do that. Yeah. I can't do that. Not at this state. No. No. I can't do that. You'd be up at night going, how much are they making? What's the full amount of money brought in?
Starting point is 00:39:11 Yeah, at this point, I know too much, but if somebody comes grab me from the beginning like that, and they're telling what I do, but I'm street, I know how to get out of it. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not violent. I just figure out, I say my money, know you can always buy your way out of something
Starting point is 00:39:28 Which you own money. We were talking we were talking about that the other day 360 deals, you know those are yeah I had a company try to put me into a 360 deal and I realized what was happening Little late. Yeah, I realized and I was like whoa Whoa, whoa, whoa, what the fuck is this yeah, no No, no, no, you don't get everything, you want everything I do? No. Because you're gonna be able to sleep. I feel like when business is not right, your life can't be right.
Starting point is 00:39:52 So I think to be a good artist, that business have to be right. Yeah. And if not, you're gonna feel it. You're gonna, your art gonna suffer from it, because it's hard to perform, man. When that business is not right and people just, man, everybody just, it's too many people trying to pull off it.
Starting point is 00:40:10 What was the thing that got you out of the drug game? Overcoming it. The same phone I was hitting. By the way, you've blown up, you got three phones now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to figure which ones are which, because I have two phones. I'm about to get a third. I'm about to get a third for just for me. This is the one I filmed with content on, so I'm trying to figure which ones are which, because I have two phones, I'm about to get a third,
Starting point is 00:40:25 I'm about to get a third for just for me. This the one I filmed with content on, so I'm a video. Oh, I have, yeah, I have my, I have my, even more. Keep going. Yeah, I talk on Dillson personal, and this one's just, just the case, it got the same eye clouds,
Starting point is 00:40:37 so just the case on Mondays, I could go live with Dillson or something, but yeah, but, nah, I got a, I got a, if you meet a girl tonight, what phone number do you get? What phone does she get? She gonna get this one. For sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:50 I'm trying to meet a wife, though. You know, I want a wife. I guess I thought of. I want a wife. I want to come in and my hat's hung up. Really nice. I want to come home. I want to have to worry about things.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yeah. I want to, I wish I could bring, that would be a cool TV show if I could bring all my wife's ex-boyfriends over and just go, look what she did. Yeah. She did this with me, I'm nothing. Hehehehe.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Imagine what she could've done with you. You had a range over when she met you. Hehehehe. Yeah, man. Yeah. That's crazy. So, how would you when the comedy started popping off? Oh, 20, 27.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I was 26 going on 27, but I had a nightclub. So I was 26. We hold on, started them back it up. When did you get a nightclub? I got there 2014 also before I took off. It's crazy, all I have been at the same time. But before that, I was doing parties, but I got nightclub 2014, went viral 2014.
Starting point is 00:41:46 First video went viral was the, you have to fake like a girlfriend's cooking. Man, I never, that video, people were Israel, guys from Israel will come many. Wait, is it still up? Yeah, is it on YouTube? Can you play it? Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Hey, play it, would you play it in Austin? We have to fake like a girlfriend's cooking. By the way, yeah, I live with my wife. I should get this video. My wife can make, my wife makes, you'll get this. You'll get this. My wife makes, we can hear each other with these on. My wife makes, cause she grew up in like poor,
Starting point is 00:42:15 a poor part of every, all the ingredients come out of like a pigly wiggly. So she's like, she's like, this is great. She's like, granny, tell him what you're making this. She goes, like, you're like, wow, this is great. She's like, Granny, tell him what you're making this. She goes, well, you need to sleep a rich crackers. You need two slim gyms. Poor little mellow yellow in it.
Starting point is 00:42:31 And you're just like, this is fucking good. Look at how young you are. Yeah, it was young, man. Good, did it? Yeah. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I just tried it. I think I'm good. I don't know how good I'm good. Oh I You know that Good Perfect 27 seconds. Yeah, man. No editing. No. All of you I was good because the phone's up close. You shot it vertical.
Starting point is 00:43:13 It was no issue vertical then. Yeah, I started vertical, man. The reason why I never edited because I was so country, I thought movies were filmed. I didn't know about editing. You were shooting like everything was the bird, man? Yeah, I'm thinking everything straight to. So I didn't find out, to 2016, that things are edited.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Turns out you're not country or Dutch. That's like a big movement in Scandinavia that to shoot everything just one shot. Oh, yeah, that's what I grew up. So that's I still to this day. I shoot my content, no editing. I just shoot it. Really?
Starting point is 00:43:45 And so because I heard you break down like the brilliance of a video, shoot it vertical on your phone and no editing. No editing, yeah. The way you zoomed it after I'm a video, it's immediately making money. So how many takes you do when you do a video with Boozzy? Boozzy, I think it was two.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Two? Yeah. I couldn't tell if he was acting or not. No, he was kind of serious, man. He got kind of serious, especially when I put out the money. He was like, yes. Yeah, we all got money. Yeah, he got serious about that. And then like, you said, the line that you will be hearing come out of my mouth is know that it's coming from Boosey. It's is uh, is know that it's coming from Boozie. It's, uh, is, uh,
Starting point is 00:44:25 you'll know what I'm mad, my eyes get yellow. Yeah, my yellow, I got yellow, I'm a dead eye. Yeah, I said, okay, it was, it was getting light orange. So I said, it's time to get out of here, man. Boozie get mad. But no, he was cool. How much did you hang out with him before you started filming? Oh, I didn't hang out at all.
Starting point is 00:44:40 You just went up to him. No, it was about, we stayed about 15, 20 minutes. Yeah. He was late to 15, 20 minutes. Yeah. He was late to his house. Yeah. Yeah. So his family was there. So I see them there, but then he popped up late
Starting point is 00:44:53 and we filmed a video and I talked to him a little bit and we dealt. Yeah. And then what was it like working with TI? Because TI seemed like it might have been more than one take. Oh yeah, TI was cool. He kept laughing, but TI was man man, that was my guy that I looked up to in the rap game. Okay, let's celebrate TI. Yeah. Yeah. TI might be, there's lines
Starting point is 00:45:14 that I loved, was it, A.T.L. was his movie with, with Big Boy? Yeah. One of my favorite lines of any movie ever, ever, ever. It's in that movie, do you know what it is? Big boy delivers it to TI when he pulls up in the car. Okay, so it was a car. I know he asked about the money, what he said to you? He pulls up, he goes, I don't know if you've heard. Lightskin, brother's ain't in it. Oh yeah, it's down, no.
Starting point is 00:45:40 In a style, that's right. That's a, yeah. Lightskin, guys, it's down. It's crazy. What a funny fucking lot.. Like, it's getting guys in the style of words. That's crazy. What a funny fucking lot. I just, I know, look, I'm sure I probably don't get it the way everyone's supposed to get it. But I just thought it was such a funny thing
Starting point is 00:45:52 to say to someone. Like if you pulled up, you're like, oh, I don't know if you heard redheads or in style no more. Okay. Yeah. Definitely man. That was a classic.
Starting point is 00:46:02 TI was TI is, it's cool to see him doing all these different things too because he's a guy that is podcasting now. He's doing stand up now. Yeah, he's doing stand up. You know, TI man, he was supposed to be the one. He was one of the only rappers that everybody kind of agreed on.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Not everybody, but everybody from every group of people agree, you know what I'm saying? You got the hood, the church, some people who church like the white people of black people, he was one of those ones, man. He had a, who was that Dale Ardenhardt? What was that Dale Ardenhardt, Jr.? Yeah, he had the car commercial.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Oh, I don't know, yeah. Yeah, the NASCAR, man, he was, he smooth as fuck. Yeah, he was smooth, man. He was, he was, he was the guy that really made me. I was working the job at a power plant because I had to stop hustling one time. I tried not to sell drugs. I was working the construction job.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I was happy with my kids. I didn't even care about being famous anymore. My son was real good at baseball. So I was like, I'm gonna relive through him. Yeah. But man, I seen a video with TI, which whatever you like. And he was sitting on a private jet
Starting point is 00:47:04 and I looked down at my steel toe boots he was sitting on a private jet. And I looked down at him and still told books. And I started crying a little bit. I said, oh man, I gotta get back out here in these streets. You know, turn up. But he was one of the ones that inspired me to keep chasing my dream for him. I remember, I used to parent using TI. I remember Georgia got into, and There was an issue at school.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And I remember playing, you don't know me. And I was like, Georgia, they don't know you. They may think they know you, but they don't know you. And I said, let me let you listen to TI. Georgia and I, me and the girls, this is how I sit how it sounds so horrible. They said it to me the other day. We were talking about songs I should come out on stage too.
Starting point is 00:47:50 And they were like, what about that one, the three things you're not supposed to do. And I said, oh, alcohol, pussy and weed by MJG and APA. And then I used to play and then someone was like, you used to play that for your daughters and I go all the time. But my daughters were into the beats. Like my top lay it back lay it back. I like my beat down.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Download. Download. Yeah. Bring them out. Bring them out. I mean, there's TI has so many bangers that so many that when you remember when he called out what's his name for a versus. Oh, it was 50.
Starting point is 00:48:19 No, it was. Yeah, he said he said a 50. Yeah. You're, you're the nanny of the North. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He'll crush me to know. And so you, but you, what was it like shooting with TI?
Starting point is 00:48:33 I was cool, man, you know, because we had a show that night, comedy show that he came to. Man, it was dope, man. It was just him, the character I had created, it was still a set about a hip-hop community. It was just like a dream come true for real. Yeah, and what he did, he,
Starting point is 00:48:50 because he was an active participant in that, where his boozey was a little more like, he dripped, shined, T.I. was just like hand in hand. Mm-hmm. Exactly. It was more artistic for real, you know, shoot with TI. But man, it was great, man. That character dripped, got so popular, I had to stop doing them.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Yeah. That dripped got too popular. Really? Yeah. You know, you really could have just done that on stage. You could have just transitioned and just done dripp on stage the way, like Larry, the cable guy, a lot of guys.
Starting point is 00:49:19 The characters get so big, they can just transition and that goes on stage. That's like, how long did that last? I was worried about it. It could, I think what they do is like, I mean, look at Bobcat. You know Bobcat Goathaway? So he's very popular comedian and like the sadly, it really is before you were born. It sounds crazy to say, but like a police academy was a huge series of movies and he played
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Starting point is 00:50:32 he'd accentuate it. And but this was at a time when like Larry, the cable guy was big, you know, Larry, the cable guy was, and Larry, the cable guy was just, it was, he was, his name is not Larry, the cable guy. And he would call into radio stations as his character. And then he'd show up to the comedy club
Starting point is 00:50:49 and do that character. You could have very easily done that with drip. And then like Larry and like Bob kind of morphed a little bit into who you really are. But it's a tough. See, I was I was big in a drip, right? So I was crunching Wayne doing I was selling like comedy clubs before drip.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Yeah, drip cane. Thank God I didn't start this drip because I understood the character. That would have been a prison. Yeah, it's like Medilla, like, Tyler Perry, but Medilla, so big, he couldn't get bigger than Medilla and the Vichyly characters don't keep working. I watched one of those Medilla movies, I see it.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah, I got it, like I got it, I got it. Yeah. Here's the thing, man. You don't need. This is the thing about, and I think I might have heard you say it. Also, I remember my dad, I remember my days, there was a baby blue Mustang convertible. And my dad said, you know, hey, we, we can get a good deal on this. It's not, it, it's wasn't a convertible. Baby blue mustang, two door. I think they all were two door, like in the 80s, 85. And my dad's like, hey, I can get a good deal on this. If you like, the scar will get it. And I said, who the fuck?
Starting point is 00:51:55 What's a blue, baby blue mustang? And my dad goes, not everyone, what's a fucking red or black mustang? Like there are other people in this world. That is the most prophetic statement when it comes to art. Not everyone is 50 cent or going to be a 50 cent or going to be the coolest guy in the club There has tons of money and tons of jewelry that wants to see the flashiest comedian. There are a lot of like The church community aunt. Oh, I think you said it. It was aunties who have money, who want to go and enjoy comedy and enjoy Facebook.
Starting point is 00:52:30 And you don't have to have like, like, Dane Cook had the coolest fucking fan base. You don't need, there are, there is that people and then there's their friends they work with. And there's lots of people out there that you can cater to. It doesn't have to be the hottest, prettiest people in the world.
Starting point is 00:52:48 And I think if you treat your audience the best, I think that's when other people come. It's like a woman, when they see you treat your woman good, that's when they come. So when you just cater to your audience and really feed them, other people come join because they want to be treated like, they're ventured, because the people there follow,
Starting point is 00:53:05 but I'd be treating them the same. So I believe in that model, just man, because everybody's connected deep down anyway. So I believe if you just treat your audience the best other people come. Yeah, I think you're right. I think, and at one point did you start realizing you had an audience?
Starting point is 00:53:21 It was 2000. As soon as I started, I just knew. I was ready for the moment. I was waiting on the moment anyway. So I just, I mean, as soon as I started, I got 2000 followers and I knew I'm about to blow up. Really? I knew I was going to blow up.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I dropped three videos a day after that for like a year straight and just kept grinding and by, um, I jumped down 2014, October by that March, I had a million followers on Facebook. And after that, I just kept grinding. And what year is this? 2014, 2015, I picked up a million. I saw you for the first time, 2017. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:53 It was when I started really focusing on social media. I saw you on 2017 on Facebook and I was like, whoa, you were huge, I mean, You were huge now, but. I had kind of stopped by then. With grinding on a year straight, I was doing enough where I could make a million dollars a year doing clubs. So what I was doing, I was getting good and comedy
Starting point is 00:54:14 and I left social media. I didn't feel like I'm back again for real until the pandemic. Yeah. Because I jumped off and then started doing stand up. So I had to go put my hours in. So I kind of disappeared from social media but I had did enough grinding.
Starting point is 00:54:30 So you had just a digital footprint that was floating around? Yeah, I was gonna make y'all. And then, you know, but yeah, if I was getting good on stage, when I came back I knew how to, when it's pandemic hit, I just knew, I know the social media game. Yeah, I just know that, I just know that it's a game.
Starting point is 00:54:43 You know, I always when I was young, I see my dad and them sells about their drug stores and they was getting the bricks for like 16,000. And when I got into the dope game, I was paying 32. Thousands, I'm like, man, which I was back then, I always wanted to be the beginning of something. I said, if I ever catch the beginning of something, I'm going to take a full advantage of it.
Starting point is 00:55:02 And that's what it was with social media. I was like, oh, I'm at the beginning of this. So I'm going to learn the full advantage of it. And that's what it was with social media. I was like, oh, I'm at the beginning of this. So I'm going to learn the ins and outs and just, and I kind of, you kind of could see the way the game going. It makes you understand kind of Hollywood too. Once you, you ever, you ever start working on your car and then learn because you did one step, two steps. So that's how social media is.
Starting point is 00:55:22 It made me understand the industry. I'm like, oh, if I'm got this little piece of sand, I'm able to pay my cast and everybody, you know, $200,000 a month. It cost me $200,000 a month to make that content. So I ain't just profiting six, five, six, hundred. But I was like, imagine what the studio was really making about owning this content.
Starting point is 00:55:40 So that's what made me like, oh man, I got to hit right, you move and get behind them and try to get a part of that back again. Well, you need to succeed a little bit on your own turf to before you can go, oh, I could do this. Like we did from my movie that we did a scene in this one place, they were just gonna tear down and I was like, whoa hold on. You just built a whole scene.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Like, you know what any of us would do with that. If we had a scene, you put a whole set. It's lit and everything. Yeah. Can we shoot something else in here? Yeah. And they're like, well, like what? I said, I don't fucking know.
Starting point is 00:56:15 But like, we're not just, I mean, cost effective-wise, we're, it's a half day, we're done the scene. But like, let's, and so we shot another scene and it became the end of my movie and and so you go and Then I started thinking so I'm useful Like that's you need to seem a little bit of belief in yourself Because not everyone's built like I think Kevin Hart was built Successful I know we had a rough. I know we had a rough childhood. I but I there's a part of Kevin Hart
Starting point is 00:56:43 That he doesn't get caught up in the bullshit. He lets you think whatever he wants you to think about him, but he's gonna outwork you, he's gonna outthink you, and he's gonna out earn you, no matter what part of the day. Kevin Hart's, I want to say one of the most prolific fucking guys around. But everyone needs that little Kevin Hart moment where you go, I think I can do this. Well, I think Kevin showed up and was like,
Starting point is 00:57:09 I can do this to everything. I don't think Kevin's ever doubted it in himself. But like I needed those moments to go where, oh, I can make a little something. I can be controversial. I can contribute to this. That's the shit. But yeah, I think,
Starting point is 00:57:27 and God bless you for doing stand up and getting into stand up and letting the two meet up because that's the move. Yeah, I remember Logan Paul. I had talked to him at the beginning. He was giving me a game on the internet because I wasn't making money yet. I was just getting money. So he was sharing information with me.
Starting point is 00:57:43 And I was sharing information with him. I was like, well, y'all better get on that stand up. Cause imagine Logan Paul would have really did stand up. You would have never have had this. Logan Paul is a really interesting mother fucker. Yeah. I find I'm really fascinated by him and his brother because I think they did it on a different level with the boxing.
Starting point is 00:58:01 I don't know. I mean, it's always unclear what people are making those things, but like if Logan Paul had gotten into even just live podcasts, they would be doing arenas. And arenas, man. Because a lot of people dodge that. I see a lot of comedians come up in the game. They get popular online and they dodge,
Starting point is 00:58:20 they end up because everybody knows they end up the hardest art. I've seen comedians die as that stage. They don't do anything to die, and I'm like, man, you got to go through it, because if you ever go through it, man, and learn it, it's a craft that ate too many people going to learn. No, and it takes a lot of sucking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:41 But I think there's a correlation, and so I'm on the other side, where I've seen a lot of comics avoid what you're doing Because they don't they don't want to I'm a comedian. This is what I do. I do this stuff on stage What when I what they're afraid of doing is putting out three videos a day and letting three videos suck Mm-hmm and not getting any traction off of them and then putting out three the next day and letting them suck and then putting out three of the next day and letting them suck, and then putting out three of the next day and having one do pretty good. Like that's the thing about, you know, especially about social media,
Starting point is 00:59:10 and I've always said this, just turn the camera on, that's how you gotta start. If you turn it on, that's the best way to start. And then let's content show up. You will find something there, and don't be afraid to post. I had a guy when an Instagram story came out. It's one of my favorite stories.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Sean Patton, he's one of the best fucking comics, one of the best fucking comics. What I'm saying, like, one of the most prolifically talented dudes I've ever seen, grace a stage. He is that good. That, I mean, he's got an NBC special out right now. Everyone should go check it out. He is or some peacock
Starting point is 00:59:46 I think he is so fucking talented. We went skiing. This is my favorite story about one of my favorite stories about shop at And I was trying to explain to him Instagram stories and I could just fucking just post it and he goes yeah But what if it's not right and I say don't worry. It's gonna be right. What if you post this fucking right? Just post it I watched him make a cup of tea in Utah, we were in Utah, and I recorded him on my stories, making him a cup of tea, and he was trying to put it on the screen stories, and he was just overthinking it,
Starting point is 01:00:15 and he was like, hey, everybody, hang on, look, it's better this way. And so he deleted it. I recorded 15 times of him trying to make a cup of tea, and record it, He never posted it. I had 150,000 views on all of them. Yeah. And I was like, and it was just so funny at him overthinking.
Starting point is 01:00:31 A guy who never overthinks on stage. Yeah. Says whenever the fuck's on his mind on stage. But in this moment, he was overthinking it. And that's one of the things that like, the older comics could learn from the younger comics is like, just make shit. Making me. It's, I think it's younger comics is like, just make shit. Making man.
Starting point is 01:00:45 It's, I think it's a way, like, I think social media is a way that everybody been begging and praying for, and it came and people like, you know, people been begging for power away from the industry, right? Yeah. Then it came and they're like, no, we wanna give up all our power back to the industry. It's like, man, hold up now.
Starting point is 01:01:04 You want some independence, because the industry don't want nobody unless you already popping out. Let's be real. They're not into that stage anymore of going to the groundwork. No. You know, they're like,
Starting point is 01:01:15 That's what we meant to be the mills gone. Yeah, that's like, man, nobody ain't gonna discover. I remember, man, I remember, this was a new time I said change. You remember coming to America, too, came out in the comedian. I'm a fan of him, Jermaine, that moved to drop. I remember the next day he got out, he was on Instagram with the, he did a post, we had the crown on, and it was like,
Starting point is 01:01:40 it didn't go, like he wanted to do whatever, but imagine 20 years ago if he wanted to do whatever but imagine Ten 20 years ago if people to drop that movie like that you just started it as they I think Tiffin had it was though one of the last ones where you could drop and it just You know that time at like the pandemic just to race them. It's like you got already got to be grinding or yeah, you know to me You know, it's it's weird man. It's like the times have changed so much. You kind of put everybody on the level plan field.
Starting point is 01:02:08 And I think it's fair. People think it's unfair. I'm like, no, it's fair because now a country boy who would never, nobody would have seen me. I'm from a town. You can't get out of those country towns. No, you know what I mean? I think it's hard to get out of Tampa.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Yeah, so it's hard to get out of Tampa. Y'all got way more resources to know. So I feel like the internet made it the Plan field level is like when Tiger King came out. It was so hilarious because we really don't get to see that. Yeah, you know me, but now with everything you can see everybody everybody got a chance and I believe you know coming from my point of view Man, I'm like this is the best thing that happened because because I never would have got seen because you got to come to LA and it cost something. I would have been one of them guys standing on the corner. I probably would have some drugs, my hand. I've been out here selling drugs trying to survive. So the internet just never see. You ever see Randy Randy. Why receiver?
Starting point is 01:03:01 Randy Moss. Randy Moss. You ever see him go home? He had a, I don her. Or any boss? Any boss. Do you ever see him go home? He did. I don't know where I saw this, but he went home to, he grew up in West Virginia like small town. And he said, this is where I would have been. I'm, by the way, I'm sure I'm making this better than it was. But he showed where his friends and him hung out when they were young.
Starting point is 01:03:20 And they were, they were actually still there. It was behind a companion store. And he was like, oh, hey, what's up? And you realize, oh, that, yeah, that is how, I mean, I know Tampa is a bigger town than where you grew up or where Leandro up, but like, though you do not leave those places and those places become who you are
Starting point is 01:03:37 for the rest of your life, it's hard to get out. And you're right. I think people complained for so long. Oh, there's only three taste makers, NBC, CBS and ABC. And then there's only three taste makers, NBC, CBS, and ABC. And then there's only 10 taste makers, HBO, Comedy Central. And now that the internet's the taste makers, it almost seems like people want to go back to that old,
Starting point is 01:03:54 institutionalized comedy where we had to get approved. Yep, they all want to be free. It's like, man, a lot of people could play into the opportunity to come. Because it's not there, so it's easy to say, man, if I had that opportunity, the opportunity came and now it's just gonna separate those who lays in those who work. Yeah. It's all about, man, listen, right now I ain't
Starting point is 01:04:16 about no color, nothing, you better work. And the internet, that's what it is, this work. Like, just look what you got going on. You use a machine. Start a podcast. I've always said this to everyone. Start a podcast and don't care what anyone says, if you enjoy it, then just enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:04:33 It feels good. I think a lot of people don't think this way. It feels good to put out content that you're proud of. Exactly. And go like, I'm excited. Like I'm excited. I hope people like it. Yeah, exactly, man. And it sucks when they don't.'m excited. I hope people like it. Yeah, exactly man
Starting point is 01:04:45 And it sucks when they don't yeah, it's something they don't but hey, but at least we go through the trial trial area Most of the time we go through the trial trial area a lot before we blow up because we started Yeah, we kind of learned the algorithm of well, I think I think we we we learned how to we learned how to swim in a baby pool Like we're like when you look at celebrities trying to get into social media, when they're already established celebrities, I think they're afraid of failing. That's why I applaud Will Smith. I know it's not a popular thing to do in comedy these days.
Starting point is 01:05:17 I've known Will for a long time ago. He was a mentor to me. I still always love Will. But when he did his YouTube channel. I like he leaned into social media. I was like good for him Good for him because he's already he doesn't need to do that But he's trying to do it and I was like yeah, man more more of that shit, you know I think it's fucking awesome. Yeah, cuz it's the future bears like it's like those people who Got into that movies back in the day with theaters, those poppin.
Starting point is 01:05:47 The internet's gonna hit his cap, right? But you better get in now, because you getting a piece of the beginning, the guys who in and now strong, they're gonna be the evolution, they're gonna be the, the controlling of other people channels. And like,
Starting point is 01:06:02 Yeah, cause when you talk about the dope, I'm by the way, I'm hoping you have a book that's out right now, right? Yeah, help is on the way. Helps on the way and it's a biography, but it is also a little bit of a self-help book. Yeah, it's definitely a self-help book. And I'm pleased to tell you,
Starting point is 01:06:16 because all I'm sitting here when you're talking to me is going, you should teach an economy class based on drug dealing to kids because this is the easiest way to explain. When you say, I remember my grandfather got kilos for 16, we got it for 32, I wanna be at the front of something again. I remember having that feeling. I remember watching Dane Cook say to me,
Starting point is 01:06:38 this is my space, you should try it. And me going, no, I'm not gonna do it. And when Instagram showed up, I said, oh, this is gonna be fun. I'm better, I'm not gonna do it. And when Instagram showed up, I said, oh, this is gonna be fun. I'm better, I'm better, I'm not really good at typing and telling you about myself. I'm better at saying it and doing pictures, and this is more of my medium.
Starting point is 01:06:57 And I was like, oh, I don't wanna be caught behind on this. And then when Instagram story started, and I was like, I did the same with vlogging. I fucking wanted to do a vlog. And with Instagram stories, I remember when they said you could swipe up in cell tickets, it was a game changer. Game changer, man. So game changer, you're talking direct to the consumer. Yeah, definitely. That's I seen it, man. When I used to promote my clothes first. So I just, I understood, man, and just me, just like candy. So then what's gonna happen with you? You got your Netflix special, you got the book out,
Starting point is 01:07:28 you got your on tour? Yeah, on the tour. And I did a show with Taco Y Tee-Tee and Lisa Kudrow on Apple TV a come out this year too. That's big. That's big, he's the biggest director there is right now. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:07:39 He's fucking so talented. Hey, Germain, all those guys. Oh, for real? And Jeff, Jeff directed my episode, I was on, that's how I those guys. Oh, for real? And Jeff, Jeff directed my, oh, the episode I was on, that's how I met Jeff. Oh, for real? Yep. So I wanted to be a part of those guys,
Starting point is 01:07:51 because they really see it's about the art. They see it's about the art. Man, you have the right brain to be around those people. Yeah. Because there's certain people that look at things as like a paycheck or I don't even care. Yeah. But then you take your brand and you're like a sponge. You go in and just start drinking in what they're doing it,
Starting point is 01:08:10 how they're doing it, and I'm certain you take all that and apply it to how you're doing it. Because your business plan, you said it to me, and I'm, it was a little bit of a game changer of way, I heard it, is you have a movie right now on Amazon Prime, right? I'm gonna move on Amazon Prime. And I'm about to shoot another independent one,
Starting point is 01:08:28 but I'ma try to go through the industry with it, I talk to my agent, but I see these movies in my head, and I just wanna announce, like, man, partnering with the studios, putting them on money, you know, and partnering with them. And you get, cause it's like digital real estate. I'm like, when I flipped the house before, but then when you own a house,
Starting point is 01:08:46 even you have tenants in it, gotta fix that AC unit, the roof, the termites might property taxes, but if you own a movie, it sits up there, you don't got to worry about the lawn getting cut, you don't worry about the tenants messing it up, it sits on this, so it's like digital real estate, which they've been on it back in the day. But it's like, wow, know real estate, which they've been on it back in the day?
Starting point is 01:09:05 But it's like, wow, man, sit on there, and then if you got a brand, it's, you know, if you invest in, and if I wasn't me, if I wasn't a brand already, I wouldn't do it, because it's risky. But at least you know, you got your in-house customers. They gonna keep your travel live. And I'm just like, now I'm just into these,
Starting point is 01:09:23 creating these content and these movies, using my gift and art, and having the business behind it to just like, now I'm just into these, creating these content and these movies using my gift and art and having the business behind it to be like just in case I got something to put towards it too. And if y'all don't let me put it towards it, I'm fine with that too, but I want a piece of the backing, man. Yeah, of course you should. I just want a piece of the backing. I want to make that money for you overall, so.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Yeah, and you said it, I forget where you said it, you said it would be great to make 10 movies, million dollars a piece, and each movie brings in, just let's say it's $3,000 a day, then all of a sudden you're bringing $30,000 a day, and then I started doing the math and you go, God damn it, I should've sold drugs and I was going, I think I'd be so much more successful.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Now, a lot of people didn't make it out of that drug game. I think other people that made it out of it. A lot of people don't make it out of the comedy. I think, all the reason I made it out. A lot of people don't make it out of comedy game either. Yeah, they don't make it, they don't make it to comedy. I tell a lot of people, though, man who try comedy, I'm like, well, should I do them like, first, you're just saying good, man.
Starting point is 01:10:13 People be trying, so many people try to do comedy. I'm like, man, listen, everybody's not good. Yeah, but it's the same thing as podcasts. It's like, I know people that are, I know people who I didn't, who weren't the best comics. I mean, I know people that are, I know people who I didn't, who weren't the best comics. I mean, people could say that about me. Honestly, and I had, they have, but I really enjoyed it and brought me joy and I had fun doing it. And I think if you
Starting point is 01:10:33 love something, you can, you can, you can do it for yourself. And, and I think sometimes if you love it enough, you get better at it. And you'll get, and I mean, I think that's me. I think I was a very derivative comic, probably the majority of my career, but I really loved comedy. And I don't think I understood what an authentic voice sounded like. I probably still don't. But I enjoyed, I really enjoyed the riddle of figuring out the joke.
Starting point is 01:11:00 The riddle of the, like it's untangling a necklace, it's tangles. I loved that in comedy. I still love it. And then when you, the problem is, if there's a lot of problems, but if you don't do it enough, then you forget the rhythms and you forget the things and you start sounding derivative of yourself,
Starting point is 01:11:17 you gotta do it enough to try to grow. But, and then if you do it too much, I think you're getting fucking losing mind. But Bert, you feel like everybody cussing, oh man, it's like your comedy is like, that thought you have when you put it out, it's like your thought. It's like we get into Bert mine.
Starting point is 01:11:36 You got this thing about you, man. You can see it's just, it's just perk. You know, everybody just, when they see you, like my brother saying you, you like, oh, you know, it's like, you just, man, you just, you really, you know, the real geniuses always secret geniuses. Those who walk like a genius act like they're trying to look like a genius, they're not the real geniuses.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Geniuses always hidden under, because you really, you really don't wanna, like, genius really don't wanna show nobody everything they got because it's like, it's pure, your heart is good. So you care for about who gets close to your heart. I'm getting, you're so funny, you should keep going. I love the way you fucking,
Starting point is 01:12:13 I hope this is all in your book because this is like, this is, I definitely feel like, I definitely feel like, I feel like this next month is me building walls around myself. Yeah, you have to, because your heart, your heart, man, I'm like, I can sit in your eyes, man, your heart's so good. You will let everything, we'll say anything, we'll do anything, but the world's not ready for that.
Starting point is 01:12:36 The world is the world. So we have to, that's good. See, that's what I need, I need a wife, because my problem is, I say, my nymph is special, man, I might get counseling, cause I say, my niphyl is special. I'm like, it counts because I say it was on my mind. But man, I can feel, you know, everybody feels that off you, man. I was so excited to come here.
Starting point is 01:12:52 I'm like, man, it's just the me, real people, you know? No, man, I'm a fan. I've been a fan for a while. And like, the one thing, the one thing I don't have is, and I'm sure I have it. I'm sure I'm fucking full of shit, but like a cynicism about watching people succeed. I don't have is, and I'm sure I have it. I'm sure I'm fucking full of shit, but like a cynicism about watching people succeed. I don't have that.
Starting point is 01:13:08 And I watched a bunch of you guys just kind of blow up. And at a time where I was a little vulnerable in my life trying to figure out, what am I gonna do? Cause what year was it when you actually just catapulted? I think, I mean, I think 2017, yeah, I think 2017 is when the machine story went viral, but that whole year building up to that, I was doing a lot of bullshit talk and a bullshit theories.
Starting point is 01:13:38 And like, I just didn't, I was the guy saying things about the internet and not understanding that this is an opportunity and at a certain point I just got lost. I was in Philadelphia the first time I realized it. I was in Philadelphia in like 2016, maybe 2015, when I started looking at the internet it's like, if I'm enjoying this, why wouldn't I try to make stuff that people would enjoy? And I don't even think, I mean, I think I had a podcast then, I'm not sure, I'm sure I did, but it wasn't on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:14:16 I loved Rogan, I watched Rogan religiously, and I was like, if I'm willing to like, veer towards that, I should find other things that I'm interested in and veer towards that. I wanna say Vine was big at the time. I'm not certain, I can't remember. But that's when I got fired from travel channel. I got pulled off this tour.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Oh, this thing's happened to me. And I started focusing on me. But in doing that, I got rid of, I would argue all of my cynicism and started welcoming anything that came in front of me that was was good I started going like cool. All right, let's go there. Let's let's do that like I remember the big thing The big I mean, I would find out what gear people shot stuff with I would I I mean, I just took in so much content at that time. And that's when things changed for me. And then I started believing myself,
Starting point is 01:15:11 because I was like, no one, everyone just, not everyone bailed on me. I'm like, my buddies were still there, but like all the industry bailed on me. And I was like, well, fuck them. If they don't believe in me, I'll just do what I believe is right. And then listen to no one,
Starting point is 01:15:23 did everything on my own, what I thought, and I listened to Tommy, I listened to Joe, I listened to like my close friends about what they were doing and what they were doing was right. And then the ability to upload things to Facebook, the ability to know how to simply take a video off your computer and put it onto a website. That was a big deal.
Starting point is 01:15:43 I mean, for me, but I learned how to edit. I learned how to do that. I learned how to take control of my own content. And then that's when things started happening. And then I just, then I stopped listening to everyone entirely and just started doing everything on my gut and going like, fuck everyone. No one knows, like I still listen to like,
Starting point is 01:15:58 like Rogan said something to me that I think every comic should write in their joke book on the front page, if not on the fucking cover. And it was be undeniable. I fucking love that. He said that to me, and I didn't understand it. But I said to myself, I'm gonna figure out what that means. Like I don't know, I remember saying,
Starting point is 01:16:19 I just say something else, I don't know what the fuck that means. And he goes, just be undeniable. Be undeniable. When you're undeniable, you'll get everything you want. And I and he goes, you need an Netflix special. You need to be undeniable. And I was like, great, Joe, great, Joe, thanks, Joe. Thanks for the advice. And I took where we were at the Carly store. I took my joke book and I wrote on the very front page, like the, you know, where it says, put your name and stuff and you're, they lose a joke book. By the way, don't ever fill that out. I've lost a joke book. It's out there. I don't know what's written in it. I'm terrified. That's how I'm getting
Starting point is 01:16:51 canceled. Someone reads my thoughts. They're just thoughts. Everybody, just so we're clear, they're just thoughts. The, um, I am, I am waiting for the joke book to show up. I know, I left it at the comedy store. I know there's a comic that hates me that has it. There's gonna be like, once they figure out it's mine, they're gonna be like, oh, let's ruin this guy. But I wrote, be undeniable. And then one night, I watched a guy I really respect, tried to shuffle around the lineup
Starting point is 01:17:21 so that he didn't have to follow me. And they came up and they're like, hey, is it cool if Dota goes on after you? And I heard before you and I went, well yeah, I'm gonna get the fuck out of here. Then I get, yeah, but he has to get out. And I was like, okay. Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:17:43 And so he went on and I murdered after him. And I Biden really watched his set. And then he stuck around to watch me on the second show. So he didn't have to go anywhere. And I did the second show and I went up early and he came up after me and he was like, what did you get so funny? And I was like, huh?
Starting point is 01:18:02 And I was like, we hasn't seen me in a while. And he was like, and then I was like, Oh, that's undeniable. That's undeniable. Like when that guy, who I really respected, when he says he doesn't want to follow me, and then, and what sucks though is he's start getting haters. He's start getting legit haters and the people that you were friends with and I'm sure they creeps up on you, but I remember going like interesting. And then right after that, I started, I was selling tickets, and then, then, definitely showed up in there,
Starting point is 01:18:33 and I was like, wait, am I? I am to undeniably funny, like you can't deny it. Like, there's a lot of people I'm sure there could be like, I don't find it that funny. My wife being one of them. But, yeah, that was when things started happening for me. people I'm sure there could be like, I don't find it that funny. My wife being one of them. But yeah, that was when things started happening for me. And I would take advice from the people I really respected. Like Tommy, I will joke with him all the time.
Starting point is 01:18:55 But he was like, he's one of my best friend, but his advice to me has always been like, fucking the gold standard. Cause he really thinks about the business. You would have had a lot better of a conversation with Tom had been here. Yeah, man, this is a great conversation, man. Brother, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:19:14 I'm a fan. I can't wait to see your Netflix special. Please come back, do Burt Cast, we're to promote it. And we'll come do my cooking show. How we have both. Do both and we'll promote the fuck out of it. I can't wait to see the movie you do with,
Starting point is 01:19:26 with the, you shot down in New Zealand. Oh yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, it's got, they did read their time-end. Whoa. Release a cool joke. Time-end? Yeah. It's a big fucking deal.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Yeah, it was crazy, man. I was just glad to be there. I played, I played two different characters. I was a guest star, but they put me in two different episodes. Oh, fuck yeah. I played Bumpet Johnson then came back and played African. Oh, for real? So I went from, hey, hey, what's going on to Dan?
Starting point is 01:19:55 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, is African just the eyes? I guess, because it's crazy. So it's American Black dude like this, hey, and then Africans like, hey, I got a swish in the crazy man. And everybody from Africa there. So I talking from Africa for real. So I was the only one going around today. And he was like, okay, what's your African accent, man?
Starting point is 01:20:15 What's your African accent? I was like, is this, is it okay? Yeah, so it was crazy. I can't even look after now. Yeah, I'm in the captain yet. Today is very happy. Yeah, we got all of a sudden. I was excited. I am the captain now. Yeah, I am the captain, yes, today is very happy. Yeah, I was excited. I was excited.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Oh my God. So tell everyone where they can find you. Your book's out right now. Book out here was on the way. It's everywhere, man. It's my life story. But at the same time, I got lessons for your blessings. You can find me on social media or countryway with a K.
Starting point is 01:20:40 I'm on Facebook, I'm on YouTube, I'm on Instagram. And yeah. Brother, thank you for doing this. No, thank you, man. For sure. Hell yeah. My brother. My brother.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Bird time, time and bird. One goes top and swath the other, wears a shirt. Tom tells stories and birds, the machine. There's not a chance and hell that they'll keep clean. Here's what we call, two bears one cave. No scripts, a bed of booze, amateur, They'll keep the clean, here's what we call Two bears one cave No scripts to bet a booze amateur for topology Dirty jokes, ranchy humor, no apologies Here's what we call
Starting point is 01:21:14 Two bears one cave you

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