2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer - You're Not A Skater! w/ Tony Hawk | 2 Bears, 1 Cave Ep. 170

Episode Date: January 30, 2023

This week, Tony Hawk joins Bert Kreischer as a guest bear! Bert starts the episode off by letting his daughters ask Tony questions, then Bert and Tony get into surfing, skate injuries, the relationship between comedy and skating, Tom’s basketball injury, the best old school skaters, Bert’s new movie “The Machine,” and much more!https://tomsegura.com/tourhttps://www.bertbertbert.com/tourhttps://store.ymhstudios.com/

Your friends with Chris Rock, right? Yeah, I mean... Did you guys go to dinner the other day or something? Oh, yes, yes. I saw him at breakfast. What do you mean you just... We were sitting... Seriously, fucker.

100% It's a brand new episode of Two Bears One Cave. It's Two Bears, Two Cubs, and One Cave. My daughter's George Nihler here to start off two bears, one cave. I'm sitting with the greatest skateboarder alive, Tony Hawk. How? Thank you. And my daughters have only one time have said they got mad at me that I didn't introduce them. They've introduced them to everyone.

Everyone and they just like, hi, good to meet you. I was like, that was how we fucking manned out. They're like, cool. And then you came and left last time and they're like, Well, why did you exclude me? That's the question. They were just always like, that was how we fucking manned out. They're like, cool. And then you came in last time and they were like, well, why did you exclude me? That's the question. Well, they were just like, you said they met everyone.

I feel like they just got tired of it. So do you guys have any questions for Tony, Ila? Come on in. Do you ever look at the kids trying to skate and like get embarrassed for them? Never. Oh, not at all. I was, I was that kid. I was a kid who was terrible at skating and I refused to quit.

I hated school. I didn't hate school. I just, um, I can't say I hated school. It was just more like once I got into high school and skating was taking off. It was hard to do both well. So I kind of went towards skating more. Would you, if one of your kids said, did your kids go to college?

A couple of them, yeah. If one of your kids was like, that's it dad. I know what I want to do. It's not, tata, tata. Knowing that it worked for you. You still have like a little trepidation, going like, no, because I know what it's like to follow your passion and it's worth it.

That was your question? I'll go ahead and ask it. No, that was it. No, that was it. So what would be your passion, ladies? Like if you had to quit college right now, Georgia, and just go do something, you absolutely fucking love what would it be?

Work at you, Semity. That's pretty cool. and just go do something you absolutely fucking love what would it be. Where could you submit it? That's pretty cool. That would be pretty cool but there's no chances of like a video game getting made out of that. That's not what she's aspiring to. I know but yeah but I only want them to follow their dreams if their dreams are gonna make millions. I kinda want you to follow like mediocre dreams. What's your dream? I don't know. I really don't know. Yeah. No, I don't know yet. I'll figure it out at one point.

It was the funnest, the funnest moment as a dad is when they decided they wanted to try to learn how to skateboard. And they just would skateboard up and down the driveway. I don't remember how to skateboard. You don't remember? It's right there. Carry. Yeah. So, but they, so they would go back and forth. And they would, it was just fun as a dad. Like those types of things as a dad are fun. Did you ever, were you controlling of your kids

when it came to skateboarding? Like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, the way of softball based on that is? Yeah, that's a good question. Yes, it's funny, it's all of my kids skate. I have five boys. Sun Riley is in your master class with you. He's a pro, he's a pro skater, yes.

And then I have a daughter and she skated with me for a bit. And then at some point it was like, it doesn't seem like any of my friends skate and I'm only skating with my dad and that kind of, she got out of it then. But all the other boys, all the boys, they kept skating, and at some point, I was trying to give them advice, basic advice,

for tricks that they, you know, crucial tricks they want to learn, and they don't want to hear it from me. Yeah. Not at all. And someone else would tell them, one of their peers would tell them, the exact same thing

I told them and they'd be like okay, and they figured out and I was like that's what I was telling you But it's not cool for me. Do you think one of my daughters should go into comedy Tony? And which one by the looks on those faces no all right ladies all right We're gonna do a podcast. I love you guys. I love you guys. Oh grab me maybe you guys. Yes nice to finally meet you They She came up with the nose ring They drove me fucking nuts Why are you whispering? She's still in the room. Okay, but this is like going out to the world. So yeah, why no?

She's not listening to two bear, new episode of Two Bears, guys. Okay. Fair enough. We figured Tom has the moniker as the most famous injured dude in the world. Tony Hawk's got the new fucking town, the broken femur. Yeah, that was a game changer.

That was a big one. Femur's a game changer. It has definitely changed what I'm capable of doing and how I view the future. Yes. So, so how did you back at the first time doing a I know you've talked about this in time. I'm so sorry It's okay, but I followed it because you got it you broke your femur and I felt like such a fucking pussy Because all I did was rip the tendons off my arm. I tried set I ripped my tricep off my arm and I was such It took me forever to recover and then I washed you and you were already skateboarding and I was such, it took me forever to recover. And then I watched you and you were already skateboarding

and I was like, yeah, well, that was my mistake. But now I go. Yeah, thank God I'm not like Tony Hawk. So I broke it in March, in half doing a failed McTwist. And it was, I thought that, I think I had a few exhibitions and things that were scheduled for not too far out and I kept thinking, I'm going to make it to those.

That's the goal. And so I had this goal in mind and I started, got on my board too soon. I should have known better. I mean, really, I think the first sign of trouble was that I was limping up to the ramp and then skating and then dropping in and so on. You figured there's not, I mean, you would figure jogging's one thing, skating's okay. I could never run, either.

Okay. And I didn't, none of those red flags were really, I was paying attention to you. Yeah. But I was able to skate because I could sort of put most of my weight on my back foot and keep just about 30% on my front to make it work. But it wasn't like I was skating a full capacity. Yeah.

Were you worried about falling? Not really because I was told that your leg will ever be stronger. It's got titanium in there. And I was like, here we go, that's all I needed to hear. And then at some point, I remember actually the day it happened, I stepped off and I kind of put all my weight on that foot and I felt the bone move positions. And in that time, I was like, oh, that was bad,

but it'll be okay, because I still have that rod in there and keeping it together, but the bone has shifted almost like off, killed her completely. Oh, God. And it never came back. And it never, it never connected. Never connected. Never connected.

And so then you've had the surgery already that they took pictures of you. Yeah, but it wasn't until about seven or eight months into my recovery, into my recovery that I felt like I wasn't making progress. It was always in pain. I'd have to, I literally have to take a pain killer to walk through an airport. No, that's called flying.

Yeah, I'm talking to the wrong guy. Yeah, I was like, yeah, okay. But then I, I just said, something feels wrong. This doesn't, this doesn't feel like the trajectory of how a recovery should go. So I went and got X-rays and it had actually moved further away. So there was this, this gap in my, in my two femurs now, and I went to a specialist and he said, oh, I, I just, I would just go back in there, realign it, take, take your hardware out, realign it, put new hardware in, and he sounded so confident that I was like, I want to do that. Whatever you said, I don't want to do that in a scheduled surgery two weeks later. And I am now a month into that and I am walking.

So you had a surgery a month ago? I had a surgery a month ago. I am walking better than I was before that surgery. But what is it about you guys that makes you guys not notice injury? We're used to pushing through pain. But this pain was so intense that I thought somehow that I was just immune to it. And it was just, oh, it hurts, but and I wasn't listening to that at all. And I, at my age, of course, I should have been. So, I'm 54.

54? Yeah. Was there any part of you that was like, oh my God, maybe I'm turning into an old man? Sssh. Because I think that about myself every fucking day. Every fucking day. I go, like, I can't lose weight.

I just cannot lose weight. And I work out every single day. I eat horrible, I drink a lot. But I burn calories every fucking day. And I kill lose weight. I just cannot lose weight and I work out every single day. I eat horrible I drink a lot, but I burn calories every fucking day and I can't lose weight and I had my cardiologist, my fucking cardiologist told me to go on testosterone. He was like, hey, man, you're not getting any younger. Your levels are shit. You should go on testosterone. I was like, I said, what if I get cancer and he goes, oh, he had a little expedit, but I mean, what are we gonna do here?

It took the good with the bad. He's like, how many years do you think you have left? And I was like, my mother, fuck her! Yeah, I'm not having those conversations. You think about getting on testosterone? No, no, no, no. You're not even just getting to help repair things. I, well, I do, I mean, I come from a bloodline

of high cholesterol and heart disease. So I take a statin, I don't know what the name is, I take a statin. What's your statin? What is it? Yeah, I take a to a to a store. Okay, how many milligrams? 10. Okay, I'm in 20.

I just got my blood work back last week. And then I also take a supplement to counter that Q and all, a CQ10. What do you mean to counter it? Well, to keep my levels normal. Really? Yeah. So you don't mind going to the doctor.

Well, I don't mind it. I hate it. Like when I have a doctor's appointment, I start having anxiety. I start having anxiety a week out And then I start like I start training for it like I stopped drinking I started eating It's like it's like you go to the dentist and you brush your teeth and floss and endlessly for the first for the couple days before Yeah, and I get really ready for my appointment and then I go in and I and I Yeah, I he's like do you have as long as I've been lately?

I what I always do is I really, it's been rough. I've been on the road pretty aggressively. And then I said, I didn't drink all of October and my wife, I brought my fucking wife with me like a idiot last time. And she's behind me and I go and I barely drank in November and she went,

eh, I went, what are you doing? She's like, why are you lying to your doctor? I go, I'm not lying to him. I'm telling him the truth. I want him to hear. Like I don't want to tell him, the time I tell him. I'm telling him to truth, I want him to hear. Like I don't want to tell him the,

I'm telling him the truth. I want him to hear. Yeah, yeah. So if my liver enzymes were up, I want him to think it's my medication and not my drinking. Oh, wow. So, yeah, well, I think because it's not that I like

going to doctor, it's that it's more that, for instance, I just had my first checkup for my new surgery bone still in line. Yeah. I'm feeling way better than I was. I don't limp endlessly. And so I keep waiting for him to say, okay, your bone is connected. Go for it. So my next appointment is a month away.

I am counting the days for that. So I'm looking forward to seeing the doctor more because I want him to say, looks good. Yeah. Escape. Oh, fuck. So everything else is incidental to that. So we put the blood work and stuff like that. So when you do find that when you're not skating, you have it like you feel like rudderless? I don't feel rudderless, but it's hard. It's because that was my exercise of choice too. It's the coolest exercise there could be.

Yeah, by default. The fucking coolest. I've always said to myself, I wanna learn how to skate vert ramps because I can do it all day long. Yeah. Like something that I would go, oh yeah, I just do this all day long.

I get up and go, I'm gonna skate vert ramps, all fucking day long. I would love, I can't even Oli. Like that's how bad of a skateboarder I am. But I have, I can't say you're bad because you can't Oli. It's fucking children can Oli. Well, sure, but they practice it endlessly. Yeah, it's, I've, and also they,

like you're from the regeneration that the Oli wasn't even created until I was 12 or 13. I was in 9th grade the first time I ever saw due to Ollie. Right. And it was also the first time I was introduced to Pussy. And I was like, I can do learn how to Ollie or start fingering checks. I was like, I don't know how to fingering checks. Why couldn't you have a healthy balance above? Well, by the way, I fingered people as bad as I Ollie. I was just, I was just put it in and leave it there. Like I'm thinking her temperature.

Um, well, you know, I've got much better at fingering women. The, Ollie, I got, I got a little rubber stoppers to go on the wheels. So the wheels wouldn't turn to learn how to Ollie. I've Ollie didn't grasp, I've Ollie didn't carpet. I've done everything I could to learn how to Ollie. I've Ollie didn't grasp. I've Ollie didn't carpet. I've done everything I could to learn how to Ollie. But if you were to stick with it, you would have gotten there. I just gave up. It's fucking so hard.

It's hard. I am not, yeah, I'll agree with you there. It's just sick for hard. Because you push down, but you gotta take this foot. You gotta slide it. It's all timing, yeah. Yeah, I don't have that timing down. I don't have that timing down.

This is gonna sell on your shirt, Ollie. No, I don't have that timing down. I don't have the timing down. This is gonna sell my- I can teach you how to allie. No, you couldn't. I could. I could. Okay. I'll take you up on that. Yeah, it's right there.

Yeah. I'm barefoot. I'll put on shoes. When we get down, I'll show me how to allie. Okay. I have a balance board. I do a balance board every morning. That doesn't count.

Okay. The, the, hey, do you remember this is gonna be an off, kill to a question, but do you remember when you first started seeing black dude skating? It was early. Yeah. I felt like it wasn't until, for me, it wasn't until like 91 that you started seeing like the inner city in New York

skateboarding. For sure. Interest of Street skating. Yeah. I agree with you there. I mean, it was largely, yeah, like it was like a white dude. I remember I talked to, I've talked to a bunch of skaters, especially ones that are prominent now.

Now he seems so, so diverse, skating is so diverse. Sure. Now it seems including so so diverse. Getting us so diverse. Yeah, and you know, and you can't even say like there's some race or culture that that owns it. It's everywhere. And it's that's why I love it. It's a great equalizer. It really is. It's kind of the coolest thing when like, it sounds silly, but you know, I came from Tampa

and it we weren't very diverse. I mean, as diverse as Tampa is, it was predominantly Cuban and white, and then there were pockets of things, but mostly everyone I grew up with was Cuban or white. And like in what I mean white, I mean redneck or Cuban. Have you ever left a cart full of items in an online store because shipping was too expensive? Oh, I've actually done that a lot.

It's almost like, I feel like I do that more than buy them. I remember finding out Christian and soy was Asian. And I was like, oh, fuck yeah, and I bought his board. And I was like, that's so fucking cool. Like in my head, I just didn't know any Asian kids. I knew Samuel Howe. But then, and then I saw a picture of Kristen and soy with that fucking hair.

You know, I've texted him because of the last time we did a podcast. I've texted back for Christian and soy. Really? You know crazy've texted him because of the last time we did a podcast. I've texted back to Fort Christian, it's like, really? You know crazy that is? That's sick. To the, like I had his board. Like I, like he's amazing.

That's fucking so insane. Yeah, they're like, he texted me. He's like, I man, I think I can't remember how this goes because I get a lot of DMs from people, but like he was like, I heard you shout me out or in a podcast. I love the podcast and I was like, fuck, yes. I haven't gotten together with them, but I'm on the road.

But yeah, that was like the coolest time is like when the movie kids came out and you saw the inner city skateboarding. Yeah, I think that definitely shed some light on it, but it was already happening in the background. I mean, those days skating was really underground. So anything that was happening, you weren't going to see it on mainstream media or TV or whatever, but there was a moment, I mean, I actually talked to for all about this on his podcast recently where... Bro, it was a big skateboard. He was, and he skated in the underground days. Yeah. Big time. And you know, everyone in his neighborhood and his peers were like it's a white boy sport.

Like what are you doing on that white boy sport? And at some point that changed dramatically. I would say through late 90s, I mean some people say that our video game helped introduce them to and change that notion a little bit too. Which I'm proud of but I wouldn't take full credit for that. I just think it's just think it's cool that it, I always felt like it had this element that it wasn't elitist.

You just buy a skateboard and you're in. It means it's not like you have to be part of a club or you have to pay some dues. It's just like, yeah, whatever. And everyone through and through has been judged on their talents. Yeah. Not on their backgrounds. Yeah. Not on their backgrounds.

Yeah. And so I love it for that, for that. I think is the coolest thing. I think the thing I think that's interesting, like a deck's a deck, right? Yeah. Like, can you notice the difference? I remember the first time, not Jody Foster. Who is that guy?

He had a triangle for a logo. Something Foster. This is an army something. Foster's army. JFA JFA. That was this homie. Oh for real? Yeah. Yeah. I remember I remember seeing his board any and the The sides went up. Every other board was flat like a Michael J. Fox board. Yeah, his sides went up on the side Now what the fuck this? They're like oh, I think that's because you were getting cheap skateboards and then you finally saw a process. Christian, his voice was no, Chris, he was talking about it. Now, I mean, they're, so they were flat when we started and then concave started happening. So, um, concave, that's right, concave, yeah. Um, but, but the concave now is kind of, it went, they went to the extremes and then

they finally kind of found what works. And so that's where we're at now and most most boards are generally the same Kick and concave with some subtle differences. Do you notice the differences? Oh, sure But that's because I've been riding the same skateboard for the last 15 years really yeah, I mean the same board same shape same setup And that's because you like it. Yeah, I just found that that's what works for me. And I can set up a whole new board, trucks and wheels and everything and ride it right away. Like I don't need to break it in. Oh, and so are there are there difference in trucks?

Yeah, yeah. Like is are there cheap trucks? There are cheap trucks, but really most of it is in the bushings. Bushings is what's the bushings are that rubber thing? Yeah, the rubber that's separating the hanger from the base plate. The how that's made the the hardness of it and how much it'll bounce back is key. Yeah, it's such a fucking, but you're right, it is such an accessible sport. Yeah. And it's the funnest.

And the cool thing is that you don't have to follow some practice regimen, you don't have to have these certain tricks to be, to do it in your own style. It's like, it's like art. Just do it however you want to do it, make it whatever you want, and you can still be part of this community that will support you and that will be excited to do it, with you to see what you have. Yeah. Do you find a correlation between comedy and skateboarding? Sure, yeah.

Like, because I was talking about you know, do you know Mark Norman? Yeah, he was on our podcast. Have you ever seen him skate? Yeah. Yeah, he can skate pull it. Have you ever seen him skate? Yeah. Yeah, he can skate pull it. He had some, I want to say he did 360 flip. No slide.

Is that what he told me? Yeah, do a kickflip. That's going to love these ledges. I think that ledges. But he also, like he was in skate videos as a kid. Oh, for real? Like he really thought that that that was gonna be his calling. Switch, so are you talking to him.

But yeah, he came on, he come on our Hawk vs Wolf podcast. He's, it's such a, I remember the first time we rebots me and my buddy, Corey, rebots, skateboards, and we got drunk as fuck, and skateboarded around Hollywood. And we were both like, holy shit. I had a realization I was sitting on the toilet the other day and I was like,

every time I bought a new skateboard was when you were making money. Isn't that crazy? What is that? I'm saying that. Like every time I went and says, like, I should get a skateboard. I should get a skateboard. Like those moments in my life, right? So like, uh, the first time I bought a says like I should get a skateboard. I should get a skateboard like those moments of my life, right? So like the first time I bought a skateboard I was probably it was probably I wish I could do my the years I was so I'm four years younger than you so I was in

I was in probably seventh or eighth grade and that was the first time you probably started making money when you were in high school Yeah, and then like 16 17 then again, when I was like 20, 21, 22 and, and but like that period that I was trying to. I like how I'm your marker of that. Well, no, I talked about that. I'm the measure of when it is 20 making money again. I need a new skateboard. I'm doing pretty well right now.

If you want to get a new one, I have fucking four skateboards. All right. I just bought my car. I just bought my nephew, a skateboard. I'm doing pretty well right now. If you don't go get a new one. I have fucking four skateboards. I just bought my neck. I just bought my nephew a skateboard. Well, there you go. I guess that's it. I wish it had been something that my daughters had gotten

into early didn't bum you out when your daughter stopped skateboarding because you're like, cause. It didn't bum me out, I understood. But it was fun. It was super fun. I'll show that with your, um, she's 14 over. Oh, my 16, 16 and 18. And, uh, we let her get to twos. What's that? A tattoo. I get to. Oh, uh, yeah, sure. You would. Yeah. I mean, what fuck? So my,

why am I buying that? My oldest son, my oldest. I'll never forget this. The day he turned 18, he texted me black Sabbath tattoo on his arm. They just got done. The day he turned 18. The day he turned 18. Yeah.

I mean, what did you, but what am I gonna do? What are you, what am I gonna do? You gotta say no. Didn't you, he is emancipated. Oh, he really got a black Sabbath. Right on his own. Well, that was the first one. I mean, then he went crazy after that. Is that Riley?

That's Riley, yeah. He actually got one of my graphics. You can't see it there, but he's got one of my graphics on his arm. Is that... Wait, let me see. That's a great hair. He cut it. He did?

Yeah, I mean, he grows it and he cuts it. But is that, wait, let me see. That's a great hair. He cut it. He did? Yeah, I mean, he grows it and he cuts it. Oh, there's Zeus, that's his dog. So let's then, I'm curious about parenting. So because you're someone that, okay, it could be argued, I'm obviously, I'm in remotely in Zencate, where is you, but we both are men that chose to do different things for

a living. Yes, I agree with you there. You, yeah. So far, so good. We are clearly probably at the same level of what we do. Like I'm the best comedian ever been around. But like, do you find, like I myself, maybe because I know how I almost didn't make any money, getting worried for my kids where I go just do something safe.

Like, don't fucking do stupid shit. Like, she came back with this nose piercing. I was like, what the fuck are you doing? And she was like, it looks cool, right? And I was like, no. And then my other daughter, I was like, what the fuck are you doing? And she was like, it looks cool, right? And I was like, no. And then my other daughter, I was like, that you got a supporter. I go, no, I don't.

She looks like a fucking bull. Like, it doesn't, I don't like it. And then I had to be like, and then I go, can I at least get you an extra point? But looking cool is so subjective and you're obviously not her demographic. So, she has this beautiful face. And then she puts an earring in the center of it so then that's the thing you look at. I'm not gonna try to sway your opinion.

Yeah, I'm just trying to get some perspective. Okay, but so have your kids ever done stuff where you go as a dad? You're like no, this doesn't fucking happen in this house. I never went to extremes with anything like that. So drug, drug, all bad, the talks for sure. And we, and but you get to be, you're a good guy. You never really partied. I, I didn't, but between my wife and I, we experimented, you know, through our youth, for sure.

She grew up as a punk rocker in Detroit, and you know, went through her thing, and I went through it. Mostly, my examples are of my peers. So it's like, look, you guys, I was skating with these people, and they had equal potential, if not more than me, and they started partying and it was gone.

Yeah. And it was gone. Yeah. And it was gone. Yeah, that's, that is kind of crazy when you look at that because you look at someone like Jay Adams or who Jay Adams, I'm only knowing this from the movie really, but he was just this like, and probably because I think Emil Hersh plays him in the movie and Emil Hersh is so fucking, you just charismatic. Yeah. That you feel like Jay Adams had the world

at his fingers, Tony Alva, like all those guys, and then they end up partying, and it... Here's the connection. Here's the connection I find with standup and skateboarding is they're both jobs that, it within the industry, if it looks like you're trying hard, they get mad at you. If it looks like you're doing the right thing,

you're like, no man, I want to get sponsored, I want to really do great in this competition. It seems like the way to do it was like, I don't give a fuck. Maybe in the old days. No, it's not like that at all. Now there is, I think there's more respect for the hustle now. Some people overdo it, and some people will turn you away

because it's like, look at me, check this out. And it's almost like, okay, you don't need to hype it up so much. Do your thing and we'll decide if it's good. But for sure in terms of the people who are taking it seriously, who are competing actively, I mean, they're Nike athletes. They're going to their practice places and getting trainers. You know what I mean? In our day, in the 80s and stuff, well, no one could afford that.

And also it would just be absurd because our skating was the antithesis to organize sports. Yeah. So you're not gonna go have some trainers stretch you and have you work out to get better. Like that was absurd, but nowadays it is that serious and the stakes are high and no one is getting blasted for that. Yeah. If anything, it's like, we've come this far.

The skaters are on the same level as NBA NFL. Oh, by far. I would say some are more popular. Absolutely. And I know dudes, like I follow the old, old, I end up following older dudes only because I don't know, during sober October I watched a couple documentaries of guys on what's the, what's the YouTube series

that shows, it's like later, maybe? Epicly later. Epicly later. And I watched a bunch of guys that were big skaters in the day that maybe it's explaining what happened with their careers. Those are the ones, who's the guy with no teeth?

I know him, I followed him on... Oh, Andy Roy. Andy Roy. Guys, a fucking fascinating dude. Yes, teeth now. I know, they look great. He looks like a holy person. He really, yeah, he's a fucking fascinating dude. Yes, Teeht now. I know, they look great. He looks like a holy person. He really, yeah, he is.

Check, he just did a, he just did a meme on his Instagram that was a picture of me next to him and it said, front of the Christmas tree, back at the Christmas tree. He looks great now. But yeah, I watched, I like watched him, bam, I'm still rooting for bam. I don't know what's going on with bam, but I'm still rooting for bam.

You're never gonna fucking lose that place in my heart. Those moments from Jackass and Viva LaBam. Like the hardest I've ever laughed, this sounds silly, because I met Ryan Dunn. I did a show on Travitanel called Birth Conquer. And Ryan Dunn auditioned to be, it was gonna be, it was called the Conqueror series. So it was gonna be Ryan the Conquer,

Dunn the Conquer, Birth Conquer, whoever got it. And so we all auditioned. Ryan Dunn was the coolest dude, like cool dude. He was, I mean, I traveled with him, I traveled a couple of times on tour in some hard situations. And he was the coolest. What do you mean, hard situations? Just, you know, getting into weird places and we went on a rally and it was going through Serbia and you know, and I mean just things could have gone South very

easily. And he was the most collected. Yeah, you know, he kept it together and that was when Bam was kind of partying it up and he kept him in line. Really? In those times, yeah. But yeah, he was awesome and I've actually seen Bam recently. He's been, I think he's living kind of in our area now. And he's, you know, he's staying straight and he's just getting again. And I'm really happy to see him come around. Yeah, he's a kid, he's a guy I root for because I, there was an episode of the two

and I talked to both of them about this when they, at the audition, where they were caught, they got stuck at the top of a scissor lift. Did you ever see this episode? I don't think so. And they, they, two of them got up at the scissor lift and one of the guys went down and he like turned it off. And then they're stuck up there. And so the whole episode is these two idiots stuck with scissor lift.

And they're yelling and no one's coming. And so it's just two guys. It's like the beauty of comedy is two guys. It's stuck in a situation that they don't wanna be there and they're stuck in a scissor lift and they're yelling and finally someone comes over and they're like, finally, can you get us down and the guy goes, just push the button.

And they're like, what? And they push the button and it lowers and I laughed. This is a ski lift. It's very different than a scissors lift. If you're holding scissors on a ski lift, does that matter? No. Do you know what's crazy?

Okay. What are the difference when you talk about scoring for snowboarding, surfing, and skateboarding? Do you know that? I know Rob, Rob, what you're gonna call it was trying to do like a like a Tell me Ramachado. No, no Rob Deere deck

Rob Deere deck. Oh his scoring. Yeah, it's a format. Yeah, it's it's the scoring is is always based on difficulty consistency Use of the area style speed, you know, those are all the, it's more refined now because it's an Olympic sport. And definitely with street league, Rob's league, they changed their format for street because it was, they have a routine where it's like you get your timed do what is matrix as you can will score you if you stay on, I mean if you stay on better score. And then there's sort of a best trick element where you

get five tries. And you're trying to make, I think it's three out of five attempts or something like that. I don't have the exact format. But that's when things shifted and they use that format for the Olympic Street. Oh, really? Yeah. Which I think didn't play wealth to the non-skating audience because the non-skating audience saw people trying a trick and falling, and then they're resetting for someone else. And that, do you know what I mean?

Oh, are you right? I don't think so. They're expecting X Games action and stuff you see in video games. So that was, I understood it, because obviously obviously is more four skaters by skaters. But I think that that, like, it just didn't play well for the, for the bigger audience. Yeah, I just watched the pipeline masters. We just have a couple of weekends ago.

And I was watching a kind of, no, uh, fuck fuck, forget his name. Koa, Koa Rothman compete. I was watching him on his YouTube. I think he recorded his set. It's so fucking bizarre, which is something I wanna talk to you about. And he didn't like catch any good waves. And then I went, that's it? Like there was just no good way to say him. And then I went, that's it, like there was just no good way to

game. And then I mean, that, but that's half the battle with surfing, you know, getting getting in position and getting at least the amount of waves to get scored in a heat, for sure. And yeah, I would just back to the other format with skating. The cool thing about it is that when something happens, it's huge. There's some crazy trick that could be something that skaters only done once or twice in their life, or maybe this is the only time they do it. So in those moments, it's massive, but in the down moments, it's hard to sit there. Yeah. Are you following any of what's going on? By the way, Tom's been texting me all day.

And he's like, please have Tony watch my surfing video. He went surfing in Hawaii. Okay. And he was like, he was like, please have Tony. He goes, he's like, if he thinks I'm going. Are we watching it right now? I was doing, we can do it now. He's like, if he thinks I'm good enough, will you please, please, please,

see if we can go surfing together? I was like, I'll ask. So this is Tom, that's Tom's mom trying to carry a camera. That's the next one. So this is Tom's to grow surfing. So he looks. Oh, okay. Well, that's the end of the surf.

I think he's pretty squat like he's taking a shit. Like he's taking a shit. He's up though. He's up, he's up. And then right now is when he gets comfortable. He's like, oh wait, maybe I could not look like a jagged ass. Okay. Well, he's coming off the way of there. Yeah, he's up, he's up. And then right now is when he gets comfortable. He's like, oh wait, maybe I could not look like a jaguette. Okay. Well, he's coming off the way of there.

Yeah, he's coming off the way of. So what do you think of Tom's girlfriend? And by the way, is it weird that he has a native dude carrying his board for him? Where he's like, yeah, you just a big water. Yes, I could look. He's like, I'm James Cook. You guys bring my stuff to shore.

Oh, I was going to walk up with a suitcase behind him. Yeah. And then they'll put out a table and pour in fresh water and cut him a mango. He really is a little bit of a fucking settler. Like he's got settler vibes, doesn't he? I don't know about that, but I know it. Actually, that looked like the guy carrying the board. The look I might have been the other guys bored.

And tell him to just watch. Oh, yeah, when he just leave his in the water. I'm done. I'm done. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no sharks? No, not sharks, it's big waves. Really? Yeah. It's different wiping out. The whole down man, that changes things.

Yeah. That and the board coming back, I had the board hit me in the head one time. Oh yeah. Like smack me in the head. So bad, I was with surf instructors, by the way, I only surf with surf instructors. I never do it by myself.

I always hire someone to come in the water with me, push me into the wave. And so the guy came up and he was like, are you okay? Like I'm 49 I'm 49 oh No, but I got I got cracked in the fucking head Yeah, like fucking smacked and I'm not when I was younger I cuz I never really was good at sir I've never been good at anything I keep it like wakeboarding. I was never I always was a little nervous

Wait, didn't we have this conversation when we're on the show? Jason yeah, you're way boarded. Yeah, you were make a big claims. By the way, I'm better than Jason And also better than we couldn't find any video proof of it. We couldn't find any video proof And I have my fucking ex-girlfriend college. She was like he was alright Yeah, oh was all right. I'm like, yeah. Oh, that's really, that's right, that's really it. Fuck, yeah. But like, I don't have to go over that again.

I think we had close. I'm not going. I'm still be Jason in it. I still be Jason in it. I did, I actually went serving with Jason a few weeks ago. I went right before I had my surgery and I rode some waves like that, but we went to Waco because it's a wave mission.

Oh, one in Texas. Yeah, and Jason was getting up kind waves like that, but we went to Waco, because it's a wave mission. Oh, one in Texas. Yeah, and Jason was getting up kind of like that. Yeah, so. Is there footage of it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Find it. I want to see it. I would love to be skateboarding for me

as a little more accessible. Cause it's something you can bring with me and learn when I bring a skateboard on a plane. Cause I think I'm a stepfather. I bring a skateboard and I like, I'm like, oh, someone's seeing his kids today, huh? And I was like, huh? That's mine. And then like, sure it is.

Oh, this is a great. Jay's, I kept telling me like, you're regular footed. You want to go right? He's like, left right. I don't know what the hell that means. I'm just going down the wave. Wait, he had his, he not know what that means. He's capable.

Well, like, cause, wait, can I hear this? Is this talking? Yes. Let me put down the wave. Wait, he had his e-not know what that means. He's capable. Well, like, because if- Wait, can I hear this? Is this talking? Yes. Let me put it on the headset. Oh, hey, is he? How the fuck did you get in here? That's Jason Chinelope. Go back to the beginning.

Go back to the beginning. These are his first attempts. So that's me with my leg that is not connected. But look at you got it. Yeah. Oh, wow. And then we did a, this is our doubles tandem podcast wave. I was threatening to jump on his board, but I chose not to.

That's where Thomas saw it. He was like, I want to do don't want to ride away with Tony. And I was like, all right, I'll ask him. Yeah, I'm down. Okay. Well, I'll set it up. But maybe if you guys ran out, Waco, I don't want to pay for that again. That was expensive. No, it's not. I mean, it is if you get it for the whole day, sure. All right, not way to go. All right. When am I in Texas next? That's won't be until March.

That's better, because the water was 55 degrees. Oh, for real. Yeah. Oh, that was late December right there. Who does your favorite server? Or late November. Who's your favorite server, and you can't say Kelly fucking Slater.

That's like, wait for server? Oh, late November. Who's your favorite server? And you can't say Kelly fucking Slater. That's like saying to yourself. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, Yeah, I mean, he does, and they call it different stuff in surfing, but for what it is, he does backsteads, Dale 540s, and that's huge to me. Backside. Dalefish, back 40s, yeah. They call it, I don't know, air reverse or something, and they different grab, but if you look at it for what it is, that's what it is. I want to go, I want to go, uh, uh, skin boarding. I used to skin a lot. Have you seen, what's this guy, I think to go, uh, uh, skinboarding.

I used to scan a lot. Have you seen, what's this guy? I think his name's John Howell. Will you type in John Howell on Instagram? This kid is fucking awesome. He's got my body type and he's fucking rips. He rips and he's offered to take me to, I guess, I guess it I guess it happens every fucking week.

And Laguna and Laguna. Yeah. Is that because of the break you think? Yeah, because it's short break. John Howell, Skinboard. Yeah, we used to, I think you're, I actually have a funny story about Victoria Skinboard. Yeah. John, Jonathan Howell.

How are you having a hard time seeing this? It's the one that says John Howell. All right, go to his Instagram and watch his Instagram. The kids fucking awesome. We grew up skateboarding in Tampa, but you just skimboarded. No, you just flat. Yeah, you just went to the foot down.

Yeah, the first foot down. I bought a skimboard when I was, I, with my paper out money, I bought a boogie skimboard, which was round. Yeah, was it a circle? Circle, yeah. I had one of those. Yeah, one of those.

And then you just, you just go and spin 360s, you know, in the shallow. But then I saw people doing waves. And I had told my dad, I said, I wanna buy a Victoria Skin Boy, I saved up my money again. And he drove me to three different surf shops in San Diego. I'll never forget this day. And they're like, we don't carry those.

Like those are specialized. You gotta go to the shop, Victoria and Laguna, to get it. And he's like, let's go. And I was like, we're gonna go to Laguna right now. He's like, yeah, let's just go. And I just remember in that moment, like my dad, you know, he definitely had his challenges, but he would do anything for his kids.

And he drove me to Laguna and I and I picked one out. I'll never forget it. It was this maroon had, you know, I had like a surfboard shape, 100 bucks. And I had a like pro skim board. I want, I don't make skim boards for as big as I don't think this is a Instagram. Yeah. Of real Victoria.

I reached out to, I think John, this guy hit me up. This is him. Is this him? Yeah. But no, this isn't him. He's not the follow. No, no, that's Victoria's skin boards. John Howell is the guy I'm looking for.

Because I only, I only want to celebrate Body to Body Positivity. He doesn't look like a professional skimboarder. I'll tell you this, this is him. Look at him. I'll tell you this though. And skimboarding is amazing, but you can eat shit when you're jumping on that thing in the shower.

I just want to warn you of that. What do you mean? You'll be running and you'll throw the board down. And if you don't jump on it right, you're in the flat. Like it's not, it's when you get on the board, you're in the super shallow water, it's not, when you get on the board, you're in the super shallow water, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm fine. Okay, I just, I mean, I just want to give you a heads up

on that, that's all. I've had some, I've had some injury skin boarding. Wait, what you have? Yeah, for real? Yeah, like bloody knees and my friend, brother, ankle and yeah. Look at this guy. By the way, just a normal looking dude, fucking shredding.

Yeah, I love that side wave, that's so sick. I love that when they catch the wave that's coming back out. I remember the first time I saw that ever was in endless summer in the movie theaters and they were surfing in Africa. Look at him, look at him, look at him, look at him. It's gorgeous.

Look at this guy, I fucking love it. Look at him. I never figured out that technique him, look at him. Look at him, it's gorgeous. Look at this guy, I fucking love it. Look at him. I never figured out that technique, the side slide to get out to the wave. I haven't figured that out either. I expect John to teach me. That's me. Look at him.

Look at this kid. You ready for all that? Cause it goes through the washing machine into the sand. Yes. Oh my god, look at how beautiful that is. Look at how fucking beautiful that is. I could definitely get in that.

Well, I hit him up and I was like, and he was like, hey man, we got, I think he's sponsored by Victoria. He's like, we got a skateboard for you. You'll be able to ride it. Because I bought one in, I bought one on a beach store in Venice and then took it out to the beach and I broke it like I broke it and I was like Trying to jump on it. Yeah, and it broke You want to talk about

Making Plenty of kids fucking see you the only other thing that's been more embarrassing than that is I had I might have told you about this I had do you remember those couches that they'd sell online and you'd fill them with wind and then close it up real quick and then you had a couch? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had one of those. Haha, now. And I was like, and I was in my front yard with my daughters and I couldn't get it to fill

with air. Like I just, you have to be really fucking quick. Like, who do you and catch the air? So I go, here's what I'll do. I'm gonna, I'm gonna grab my skateboard and I'll skate down the street with it, fill it up with air and then tie it up. Now there's, there's, and I only point out their color

because of the way that as hard as they fucking laughed. Three younger black dudes on the corner drinking Starbucks, so our house is right next to a Starbucks. They were just talking, I get on my skateboard, and they see a grown man on a skateboard, and they start laughing at me at first, and I hear them, and I go, well, they don't know that I fucking shred.

I also have this, what looks like a fucking foil sale with me, and I go to skate, I don't realize how far back on the board I am, and it scoots out from under me. I land on my back, knock the wind out of myself and did not expect the noise I made was eh. But did you catch the air for the couch? I did not. I did not.

But that was Ireland's first question. Did you fill up the couch? These guys, one guy spits Starbucks out his nose and they were laughing so fucking hard. And I couldn't, and I just was like, God up, grabbed my board, walked inside. I was like, I think I just slipped a disc. So how did you hurt your leg in the first place?

What was the injury that hurt your leg? My femur? Oh, I did, I was doing a McTwist. And you just landed? I was doing it and I didn't have the usual amount of speed that I would have. In fact, I had very little speed and I was I used to be able to do that when I was young and Make it work. So I thought I had to be all right. And then next thing I know I'm sliding across the flat bottom with my leg dangling behind me Like I could literally feel it disconnected.

And I knew, I mean that moment. I was still sliding when I looked up, but a couple of friends Kevin was there. And I was like, I broke my leg, and they go, what? And then they saw me grab it. And I just tried to put it back in place out of desperation. And then I just knew I was in for the long haul right then.

For real. I broke, I ran over my foot the other day on a roller skate. I'll show you the video also. I'm gonna send you the video. Can you can you I do want to say Brad Domke who's a myster of skimboarder He gave me one of his models recently and I went to that spot that we saw right there with that side wave with him And he kind of got me back into skimboarding a couple years ago and it was awesome. He's amazing. He actually will take off on a huge wave with a skimboard on top of a longboard and then lose the longboard and then skim giant waves.

How can you do that? I don't know. He does it. That's, that's not the best. Is that a skim board? That's a skim board. Yeah. Yeah. He's like unlocks some. How the fuck can you see?

But I would no fit on it. I remember do you see how he just dropped the, he, he dropped the, uh, long board as he took off. Oh, yeah, he knows that it turned without a fin. Yeah, it's amazing. I can't do that. I remember. Do you remember the wave pools that they have at the, uh, never on knows that it turned without a fin. Yeah, it's amazing. I can't do that. I remember, do you remember the wave pools that they'd have at the,

they have one at San Diego? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could get on that. I remember that one was different. Oh, you're talking about the flow rider. I do one where it's this deep. Yeah. Yeah, you can get really fucked up on those.

I got really fucked up on that. I got really fucked up on that. Turned Wi-Fi on. Holston, I'm air-dropping it to you. So we're trying to announce my movie. And I was like, I was like, oh, easy, peasy. I'll hold on, I'll get in the roller skates, I'm pretty good on roller skates.

I'll get in the roller skates, I'll get outside the car. I'll let go of the car, and then they'll throw me a ski rope. I'll grab onto the ski rope, I'll swing behind the car, do some pretty sick moves, and ask the movie. And that was my idea. Did you get the, do some pretty sick moves, announce the movie. And that was my idea. Did you get the video? And then announce the movie. And that's the movie. My movie. The movie. I think I think I heard you say, and that's the movie. No, no. And that's it. Wow. That sounds short. I was like, I was like, okay, so this is, this is me. And this is our rehearsal, by the way. We haven't even, right now I'm just seeing

if I can skateboard roller skate next to a car, and I'm going, oh, this isn't that bad, this is pretty easy. Oh, you know what, speed it up. Fucking piece. What is it? Oh, you're wearing goggles. Yeah, there's goggles on your helmet.

Apparently, doing absolutely these days you gotta go full-time cruise. Care, are you coming with me? Fuck no. He's Skydives. I do what I do best. Speedos and roller skates. All right We just ran over the foot stop the car stop the car stop the car. Oh my god I ripped the wheel off. Definitely think I broke my toes. This is exactly Good This is exactly Go up here take a right

Here's your chance to announce the movie oh, I was a little panic I just ran over my you have our attention. Yeah, no Yeah, you're in shock. I'm in shock I mean shock and I go I can't tell right now if the broken rocks are so cold, right? They're frozen and they were and they were Here's good right here. So I go to urging care to see if I can extract Yeah, yeah So I go to urging characters to make an extra scene. My favorite scene comes from May 25th Memorial Day. Oh, you did it! Yeah. Spend it with me. Only in theaters.

It's been my honor and privilege to entertain you. I'll see you at the movies. So was that actually on your way in when you came out? Oh man, that's on my way in. So I got there my toes were like no I presume yeah and and I was panicking Because I first I thought I ripped them off

So I was like I They gone what they're gone. They're gone. My toes are gone. They're ripped off inside this boot The only other time that happened to me I got hit in the dick with a snowball one time And I thought that it exploded in my pants They're ripped off inside this boot. The only other time that happened to me, I got hit in the dick with a snowball one time. And I thought that it exploded in my pants. I thought, and I was in Anchorage, it's called Yuki Gossin, and I reached in my pants. With my hand, my hand was close,

I was throwing snowballs, right? And I couldn't find it. And it's not that big to begin with, but I was like, I thought it exploded in my pants. And I thought I was gonna find two loose toes in a sorgh. And so when we got to urgent care, I was like, I was like, fuck it. I was wiggling them.

And I was like, oh, they're not that bad. And then they're like, we should go get a max raid. And I was like, I don't know if this is the outfit to go get a max raid. It's perfect, what do you mean? Nothing's in the way. Yeah. And then everyone started laughing. And they're're like just go into urgent care and say an

Outure movie and I went turn around and I go my movie's coming out Memorial Day weekend. I'll see you in the theaters and I just started walking backwards with the rollerscape and all anyone was saying was I hope you get hit by a car. But that feeling of when you get hurt, that's terrifying. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's in that moment when I broke my leg, I had never broke, I broke my elbow and my thumb and a rib, but this was like, oh, I am, I'm stuck. This is the biggest injury ever had. For sure, yeah. And it was more like, oh, this is such a huge thing. There's no, there's no pushing through it. Yeah. Like I'm stuck here on the bottom of the ramp until an ambulance comes.

For sure. Oh, shit, you had to sit there and wait for it. Yeah. Yeah, there was no choice. I mean, I was, I was cut off. God damn it. And then how long was it until they came and who was with you? And then did you cry?

Um, no. I just was more, everything hit me all at once of the magnitude of it. And in terms of what it's gonna take to try to get back from this. So that was hard to accept in that moment. But my first thoughts were, please get me to this one hospital because I know I know the head of ER there and he's going to line me up with the best surgeon. So I actually had

to pass two hospitals on the way to this one. I really. And the the ambulance driver kept saying like, you sure you want to go there? It's going to be, you know, another 20 minutes and like, yes, we were like in pain pain. I was only when they tried to move me. So once they got me in a position, I could deal with it. Yeah. But when I did finally get to the hospital, I guess they, but they have to, they have to check your neck and your back and everything else,

just for protocol. When they tried to roll me over for that, I had my leg in a place where it was stable, not stable, but it was sitting in one place, not moving. I was manageable. And they had to roll me over. And when they rolled me over, my legs stayed behind. And that was by far throughout this whole process,

the worst pain I was in. I remember I fell off a waterfall one time and the lady and I I had to I landed at the bottom of the waterfall. The guy that's supposed to hold the rope. So it's called I guess called the golden tail. Is that I don't know any rock climbing, but there's a guy that holds the rope. So if you start falling past the tight and then your line goes tight, you don't know.

He wasn't paying attention. He had one fucking job. And so I land 15 feet 20 feet on my back on a rock I land on a rock. I think I've broken my back. I Have to crawl two hundred and ten feet out of a ravine all my hands and knees I get to the top then they had to fucking they got a ATV with a swing It was like it was the most most, and it hurt so bad. Get me in the ambulance, get me to hospital,

and then the lady goes, I'm gonna have to give you delotted, which is like pharmaceutical heroin. And I told her, I said, listen, I have a pretty addictive personality. Like, I don't think delotted is the thing I want right now. And she leans in, she goes, honey, I'm gonna turn you around a bunch. It's gonna hurt real bad unless I give you this. So let's just take the Delauded. I was like, okay.

And then she goes, wait, are you the boy on Rachel Ray? And I was like, I am. She goes, you got that giggle. And I said, I do. She goes, can you give me a giggle? I said, can you give me some Delauded's like see if we can. I see him, you got it right away.

I got it and then I thought I would write a poem because I never had heroin before. And so I got my phone. Did it make you nauseous? That maybe, they gave it to me when I had my injury and it made me nauseous. No, it just made my face warm. Actually, I was gonna write it.

I had to take the zofran to stop from puking. Well, zofran is that an anti-nausure medicine? Yeah. for real? Yeah. And so you never did any drugs in your life? No. Because I saw my peers burn out. Yeah.

And skating was so important to me and keeping a high level of skating kept me so motivated and my mental health and everything else that it was like, I can't do that because I know it's gonna take away from my skating. It wasn't that I was like, no, I'm straight edge, it was just more like, I see what's happening over here and I can't, I can't let my skating fail.

Do you think that was in part because of the way that was? Since you had this cool dad that was just all about his kids and almost as a part of you that didn't want to let your dad down? Um, I, I don't know, it was my dad. I definitely tried to separate, keep some distance from my dad because he was so involved in what I was doing. Oh, that's right. He was like judging content.

He wasn't judging him. He was helping to set them up and organize some events. Did that still live? No, no, he passed away in 95. He got to see the first X-EMs. Really? Yeah, that was huge. That was huge. For him, he loved what I did. He loved and to his credit, supported all of his kids. My sister was in a band. He used to be the roadie for the band. My brother grew up surfing, he would drive him down patrol out to surf. And so when I started skating, he'd drive us to all the events. Like all my friends, parents didn't want them skating.

So they were let him my dad for rides to the park. Really? Yeah. So for him, but also mainstream sports was also huge. He loved watching football and baseball and stuff. And so when he saw a skateboarder and I used to him, that was, that was it. It was real. We made it. Yeah. I mean, everything has exploded since then. Where did he grow up? Billings, Montana.

Really? Yeah. And then he, you know, had a rough childhood and very poor and then joined the Navy for World War II. And that's how we ended up in Down and Sunday, I go. Really? Do you have any tattoos? No. No. You know David's spadekinscape board?

Yeah. I doubled him in Police Academy 4. It's the only job I've been fired from. For real? Yeah. We wanted to get fired. Because from the time that I got hired for the part and the time that it shot, I went through a

growth spurt and I was just all. Oh, yeah. Yes, spade was here the other day and he was like, he's really like, he pulled up his skateboard, he broke post his wrist skateboarding. Yeah, he's really into it. And then I brought you up and he's like, oh, yeah, I talked to him about it and I was like, why wouldn't he tell me his story about? Well, I don't think he wants to tell people that I got fired for being taller than him. I don't know. Yeah, I'm just saying. Why do you like comedy? Like, is your friends with Chris Rock, right?

Yeah, I mean. We didn't you guys go to dinner the other day or something? Oh, yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, I saw him at breakfast. Yes. What do you mean you saw? We were sitting, we were sleeping. We were sleeping. He nudged me. Hey, Chris, you're still here?

He nudged me for breakfast. I would pay money to watch Chris Rockfuck. I would pay money to watch Chris Rockfuck. I know we were, we were staying in the same hotel and it's a very small breakfast area and we're on breakfast near him and then he came over and started talking to us. Does he know anything about skateboarding?

Oh. That was a skateboarder. Yeah, yeah, a little bit. Yeah, and I've seen him through the years. I mean, I saw him, I saw him when I was, I don't know, like 20 plus years ago, some perform. Yeah. I mean, I've been a fan of years ago, some perform. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I've been a fan of his for a long time.

Yeah, that was probably when he did bring the pain. It was right around then, yeah. Yeah. Really? So what is it, what do you like about comedy? Um, because you're doing a podcast now. Yeah. Do you enjoy the podcast?

I do, yeah, it's fun. I mean, between Jason and I, we have such ridiculous life experiences that a lot of people just can't even fathom that they're real from the most part. But we tend to find the humor in them too, especially in the struggles where our life was, you know, we were doing whatever we could to try to get by. And in doing ridiculous things or injuries and people are just like, that sounds absurd and to us it was just normal. Yeah. So I do enjoy. What do you like about comedy? I mean, laughter is the medicine of life, right?

Yeah, it's so funny. I don't know if I was in a comic if I'd like comedy. I don't know. I don't know. You can't like comedy, but I love it. A lot of people don't like it. Good news. Com' shows.

My family was always very weighty and sarcastic, so you had to keep up. Yeah. Oh yeah, because you had kids in the family, so it's like a big deal. I was the youngest one too. Yeah. Yeah, and so I just kind of learned it.

And my dad was funny too. He was edgy. Really? Yeah. Kind of wish. It's funny when you, there should be like just a podcast about dads. It's like when you like Tom's dad is past. And when Tom tells stories about his dad, the one thing I'm bummed at is I never met his dad.

Like he just is a really interesting guy. Well, I'm not certain like me, but he was a really interesting guy. He said to Tom right before he passed, and the sticks with me, I don't know if Tom's shared this on the podcast, so if he hasn't, you can, you guys can edit this out. But it sticks with me. It's so heavy that his dad was cool with it, but he said to him, buddy, life goes on. Don't take too long on this. Life goes on.

I'm just like, mother, I don't think I can be that dad. I think I'm going to be like, no one forget me. Oh, yeah. Be with me every day. Yeah, my dad was, he died of cancer. And in his, what we knew were his last days, I was supposed to be on a skate tour. My brother was supposed to go to an event,

a surf event, he was the editor of Surf and Magazine at the time. So he was going to surf event in South Africa. And my dad told both of us, separately, you cannot sit around and watch me die. You got to do your thing. Really? You have to. Yeah. And so I went on tour. My dad, my brother went to South Africa, J.B.A. and we both got the call. I got the call like a week into my tour. He got the call when he arrived and turned around from home. Wow. That's got to be a long flight home. Yeah. Yeah. And then I flew home from Woodward Skate Camp. Woodward Skate Camp, where's that? Yeah, I'm Pennsylvania. Oh yeah, and was that like just a stop on the tour?

It was, yeah, yeah. Shit. Shit. I haven't lost my dad yet. I've been waiting for it. Like I know it's gonna happen. Like I'm waiting for the phone call. Sometimes I get a phone call a weird time and I go,

this is it. Well, my dad, he was not healthy. He did not take care of himself. His diet was terrible. Yeah, the high cholesterol had two heart attacks for I was born. And so we were just expecting him to have a heart attack. So we expected that call at any moment.

And then when you got cancer, it was like, what? That just didn't work. What kind of cancer? Long cancer, but not he didn't wasn't a smoker, and we came to find out later that many of the maybe guys on his aircraft carrier got the same cancer. Shit. And they were, most of them were had been gone, but there was a sort of Collective I don't know if it was a class action suit, but there was a collective thing on around it was like yeah everyone had the same thing

God yeah, Tom's dad got it. I mean, I feel weird talking about Tom's dad with him now here But Tom's take got it through being in the military, right? Yes They just when everyone was disposable. They didn't give a fuck about it. And it was best us was rampant. Oh, can you imagine? Can you imagine living the life you've lived with doing your, I mean, not technically, but really doing your own thing. Can you imagine the amount of free will that men had like 50 years ago when they went into the military or 70 years ago? And they just were like, you guys will storm that hill. And I think sometimes I go, but what if I die?

And they're going, oh, fuck about that. It's your honor. Yeah. Oh, fuck, I couldn't have done it. I, you know, I, and, well, if you got drafted, you didn't have a choice, but my dad, my dad really didn't have many choices in life. What do you mean?

I mean, he just, he kind of grew up with a, he wasn't even sure, he didn't think it was his mom. And it was, he had a heavy childhood. And so that was his escape from his surroundings and from Montana. Fuck you, you think about, I guess that's the tax you pay. Is he got, ended up having a pretty great life with kids that all did what they wanted to do.

He raised like great fucking kids. Yeah. And that's the taxes he had to fucking, how old was he when he passed? Uh, he was 65. God damn it, that's fucking young. Dana Carvey 67. Wow.

With Dana Carvey, that's what I was gonna say. That's an oddly specific person to pick out, but okay. So when you got one month until you're like, it's fixed? Yeah, in my dream scenario, yes. I was expecting. So I went in from my X-ray. I have been like counting the days. I mean, literally each day that came up, I yelled my wife in the house, like, five days, three days. At one point, I just started playing three days from James Addiction. I want a great point of thought. She's like, yeah, I know it's three days. Oh, what a great phone. She's like, yeah, I know it's three days.

And then I got to the, and I got to the, um, that is not my current X ray. Um, but it looks very similar to that. The gap is closing. Um, and so I expected that he was going to tell me, oh, it's, you're good. Did the bone and then he's looking at it. I can see the gap in it when he's looking at it. And I'm like, what about that gap? And he's like, yeah, yeah, everything's lined up. I was like, yeah, but what about the bone connection? I was like, we wouldn't see that yet. Like, what's wrong with you?

And I was just thinking like, well, that gives me relief, but also, damn it. Yeah. You know, I was just hoping for that. The fucking. Is that the old one? So what happened was the one on the left is when it first moved, when I knew there was a problem.

And then that's the progression of it. And then the one on the right is how far away, it just started moving further and further away. And my limp was really bad. Yeah. I mean, I was like, there was, when we went to wake up from that surf trip, we had to make a connection through Dallas. And I was with three of my kids. And our, and

you know, when you're at the gate, but they're not letting you off and you know, your connection is getting tighter and tighter. And it got to be where everyone's like, okay, when that thing opens, we're running. I'm like, we're running. I can't. And so the thing opens, all my kids start running through the terminal. And I am hobbling. Yeah. Like trying to go fast. I was, it was pathetic. Like, and I just saw them look, if you guys get to the gate, it's not closed. Tell them I'm coming. And they did. And so you just show up late sweating one leg fucking swollen? Yeah, she did tangling behind me, dragging. Yeah. Like, yeah, like I'm in some combat movie. So will you take it slow when it's totally healed

or will you just get back? No, I'd learn my lesson. Oh, did I learn my lesson? Yeah. Like that was the one thing, like, have you ever seen Tom break his arm and break his leg? No.

Oh, should I have? What? We're washing that now. I'm like, have you ever seen Tom break his arm and break his leg? No. Should I have? What? We're watching that now. Yeah, we are. Yeah, we are. Oh, this is, you wanna see this. So this is, this is the day that changed Tom forever, okay? Forever.

He calls me up, he goes, hey man, we should play basketball together, we'll do it for like a, actually I think it was my idea. I was like, we should do a thing with this kid Tristan. I don't know if I want to watch that. Oh, it's pretty great. So this is Tom, we started doing a dunk contest. I'm really glad my eyes are bad.

So I'm gonna see in great detail. So this is him trying to dunk. Oh my God. All right, I know what happened right there. You know exactly what happened. Yeah, I heard it. Yeah, that was just tibular, right? His, yeah, yeah, it popped.

And then he landed on his arm and broke his humerus and half and it spun in a circle. That was, that was bad. No, we don't need to see it again. I'm not, I'm not a fan of that stuff. Look at his arm. It's, yeah. Now the best thing to do in that moment

is to move it back to its regular position. Yeah. So if you keep watching, you'll see that it's best friend bird. Now the best thing to do in that moment is to move it back to its regular position If you keep watching you'll see that it's best friend bird I was don't we're in trauma we're in trauma we're in trauma. We're in trauma. Tony. We're in trauma. Tony It's fired. It pause hit pause. We didn't we know when was thinking with the F***ing you're liable. No not viable. The doctor said it was the best thing you could have happened really yeah Yeah, well that was a spiral fracture. Yeah, it was yeah, that's yeah sure and so and you tried to unspire It was listen all I thought was I thought was I didn't know it was broken I was like oh his arms bought going the other direction and I was like so what you thought was dislocated

I just was like no, I was like oh, buddy. You're gonna put it back. Yeah, okay, so I think it's gonna hurt I am never getting hurt, okay. So I think it's gonna hurt if it's all right. I am never getting hurt around you. I uh, I didn't, I mean, some doctors have said it's the best thing could have ever happened. He say that gave him relief when you did that. Uh, he wasn't, he wasn't talking. He was going, call Christina, call Christina. Wow.

Yeah, it's I, I, I regret a lot of my behavior that day. I'm doing their show. When, uh, in this weekend, in Austin, in Austin, yeah, when you go to Austin, I regret a lot of my behavior that day. I'm doing their show. When? In this weekend. In Austin. In Austin? When you go to Austin? On Sunday.

Oh fuck, I'm flying down tonight. You are? You can hop on a jet with me. Oh man! You should've. What an offer, geez. Yeah, I'll be drinking on that jet. I can promise you.

Fucking seven o'clock at night. We get in at one in the morning, and then I'm doing, we're doing two bears tomorrow for two episodes. Then I fly back at 3 p.m. back here, and then I fly to Oslo. Ooh, Oslo's insane. Yeah, you have any idea of things fun to do, things to do in Europe?

How many times have been in Europe? Oh, many, dustless, yeah. What are some fun things to do in Scandinavia? Um, just go up to the mountains. You got to see the mountains for sure. Yeah. There's some right outside also just like an hour drive that are insane. But also it's beautiful. Also it's great. We're going to Copenhagen. We're going to Sweden, Stockholm. We're going to Berlin. We're going to Antwerp, Amsterdam. Maybe I'll bring a skateboard with me. There's plenty of skate parks.

Really? Yeah. There's a good one to stock on. Yeah. Have you ever been to the one in Butler, Ohio? I don't think so. Butler, Ohio, it's like a, it's like a, like a, what's it called when people, it's like an adventure camp for kids.

Yeah. And so, and so it's Butler, Ohio, it's like an adventure camp for kids? Yeah. And so it's Butler Ohio, it's not Oxford. Wait, is that the, is that the, is that the Ohio dream? Ohio dreams, yes, I have been there. Yes, fucking places. Yeah, we went there. So one of our skaters, we're on tour, Kevin went, with that giant slide. Yeah.

Oh, that was cool. Yeah. So one of our skaters, we were on tour. I don't remember what city we were in, but it was, maybe a couple hours from there. And he's like, hey, check out this place out. This is close by. Close by. Like this is close by.

I go, what is that? It's just crazy water slide. He's just launched into the water. And I was like, that sounds cool. Is that, can we go there? I go, when? I guess after the demo. Like you want to just hop in the car

for the demo and drive to our set place. How it's not even open, like it wasn't we were in the fall and he goes, they'll open for us. They'll open for you, they'll definitely open for you. He goes, they'll open for us. See, he's already done all this back. You know, he's already done all the, all the, all the, all the, all the, all the, all the,

I've done that slide. I've done that slide. So we go and they are expecting us to go and skate. Oh, and you guys are like can you turn on the or like we're like no I mean they knew we wanted to do that too

but it was very much like here's our skate park right over it's over here in this building. Yeah it was good. It's great. I mean, but we were on a skate tour we had just in a big skate demo we're all pretty sore from that and we just wanted to do that. Yeah.

On the water slide. I did the outdoor so they've an outdoor skate park too. And this is at my height of skating, like when I'm skating the most, and mostly because it was in our neighborhood, and I used to skate from place to place. I think you can find me doing the slide of Ohio dream. Yeah, that's a good idea. Just as fucking launching into the air. They were like, how must you wag? Because we want to make sure that you're going to not exceed the length of Ohio dream. Just that is fucking launching into the air. They were like, how much do you weigh?

Because we want to make sure that you're going to not exceed the length of the pool. That's not there. But so I go on their outdoor skate park and it just rained. And I start to get a little confident, a little cocky. And it's a steel ramps. It's the worst.

And there's no friction. None. And the board, and I land on my shoulder, knocked the wind out of myself just, and these kids are just watching me. They're like, like, Mr. and I'm like, on a skate park king called Mr.

I really call you Mr. Mr. You need to put a helmet on, Mr. if you're gonna try these things. Oh. Oh, but shout out to Ohio Dream, since they were super cool, very accommodating.

They let us run wild on that slide, and it was a blast. They were awesome to us, and they, and they've, we had a fucking blast there. We ended up doing the camp with the kids, waking the kids up, taking them out to the thing.

That was cool, yeah. It was funny, shit. If we had, if we were there during summer months, we definitely would have. You'd fucking do understand. Do you understand? Does it, do you understand the responsibility that it is to when kids see you?

The responsibility. Does that like weigh on you or do you think about it? Or do you just hear just Tony? I don't put on some persona. I just do what I do. I think having kids gave me perspective on, you know, that your actions can resonate. Yeah.

And that you wanna be someone to emulate, hopefully. But also just growing up as a kid, an impressionable kid that looked up to skaters and having awesome experiences with them and super terrible experiences with them. Yeah where they just They pass you off or they're or they're addicted to you or like one time I literally got spit on and and stuff like that it weighs on you so heavily so when I was in a position of Someone that they're looking at and maybe looking up to. I was never going to be like that because it has such a profound effect on me. But also, like, I just, you know, I'm so honored that people care what I do or that they

recognize what I do. And then I still get to do it in my age. Like, none of that is lost on me. So I approach it with a sense of gratitude, where it's just like, this is amazing that I get to do this and kids are stoked to see me, like, I want to go up and talk to all of them high five and everything, like, it's not a job. It's not, yeah, I can imagine that.

Yeah, and I bet in a business or an industry where all parents think all the people that come here just come here to smoke pot and drink 40s on the side of a ramp to see a dude like you who's not a fuck up. But I'm not I'm not an anomaly in that sense. That will now you're not. That's the thing you were. Yes and no. There were there were there were enough of us. Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, I guess so.

All right, so here's my thing. This is what I think we're gonna do. Me and Tom are gonna do a surf competition. Okay. In Waco. In Waco, okay. Waco. We'll bring you out.

I'm down. You're down? Yeah, because I feel like by the time this happens, my leg will actually be functioning. Yeah, I bet it will be. I'll get to surf again. We'll bring Jason Ellis out too. Oh, that'd be great.

What do you like about Jason Ellis? You know what? You know what? What? They have wakeboarding there. Just saying. Done, son. By the way, I'll blow out my fucking need to be Jason Ellis.

I will blow out my fucking knee. I will. You want to see fucking Ares Railies? What are they called? Just like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I'll be skinny as shit, thanks. I should be on steroids. So I'll be fuckin' jacked. Wait, why are you gonna go on steroids?

But testosterone. I'm gonna do testosterone replacement with therapy. Oh, okay. I'm a waiting point. My cardiologist, I'm waiting for my test results to come back for my testosterone. He hasn't called me, which is kind of bothering me. Like I'm wondering.

Someone who hates the doctor, you are definitely very anxious about that fun ring and from your doctor. I think about death every fucking day. Every day when I wake up the first thing I think about is death. You don't think about any of that shit. I try not to let it weigh on me. It weighs on me so happy. I lay in bed sometimes, and I think one day.

Maybe it's time to make a positive change. What is it, name it? Not like to quote you, eat like shit and drink too much. Well, that's out of the question. Well, I don't know how to do it. That was out of the question for my dad too. Really? Yeah.

But how much did I weigh? He was pretty big. Like my size? I'd bigger, right? Yeah. How much do you do that way? He was pretty big. Like my size. I'd bigger, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bigger. But also, we actually tried to have an intervention with him about his eating habits because we thought he was going to have our exact. And we're just like, oh, we should, you know, we'll try to supplement this, this, things like that, he goes, look, I would rather die earlier happily eating this stuff than change my eating habits. And it was kind of like my brother and my sisters and I were like, what do we do?

Yeah. That's it. Well, the question is, you, everyone, as much as you want to try to say you know how long you're going to live, you don't, life's not guaranteed. I go to the doctor, we run through and he tells me he goes I think your testosterone is fucked and he goes I he tells me that he was even coming in You're staying the same way you're saying you're working out your hearts and great shape your blood pressure is in great shapes Right, I'm assuming my blood pressure was 117 over 77

But the other day when I went in he goes all your liver enzymes. I'm a little high like 37 It should be 34 but it's out of the scales not that bad and he goes I think I'm a little high, like 37, it should be 34, but it's out of the scale, it's not that bad. And he goes, I think I'm gonna change your statins, but he goes, I really think, I think if you're saying you're doing it, my wife's there, he knows I'm not lying, because if you're saying you're working out and you're traveling with your trainer and you're not losing weight, it might be your testosterone, you might be fucked. That, for me, I go, give me something to fucking fix it.

I am, do I worked out hard as shit today? And I honestly, I put a fucking skate ramp in my backyard if I knew I could fucking do for it. I would lose so much weight, just do it all day long like when you were a kid. That's the beauty, you know that you live the life that everyone wants to try to recapture. Everyone's looking to recapture this moment

when you're a kid where you can get on a bike and ride five miles to your friend's house and not be winded. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not be like how much fucking long girl. Like you live that life where you go. I'm just gonna grab my skateboard, put on a fucking helmet.

I mean, just, I'm gonna just have fun today. Yeah, I mean, I get that perspective, for sure. I work at it too. Oh, no, I'm sure it's a job. It's always fun. But at times when you feel terrible, you're on tour, the terrain is not good. And it's like, okay, perform.

Let's see all that crazy stuff. We see on videos and it's like this ramp or this part is not good. It's like, so what? You know what I mean? Here we are now, entertain good. Yeah. It's like, so what? Here we are now. Entertain us. Yeah. Fuck.

All right, let me see. I wish I had video of me surfing so you could really judge the two and see who's better. Oh, between who? Me and Tom. Oh, okay. I think you're talking about Jason. No, Jason, Jason's actually pretty good for a guy like, but he should be. He's a professional fucking skateboarder. Yeah. Like, that's the thing that is a little sideways. I don't think you're gonna

find video of me surfing. I'm a what? You just went to Hawaii. I know, but I don't think you'll find video of me surfing. I thought you guys did a vlog thing. No, I don't think we did with you in Georgia. I snowboard pretty aggressively. I've always been into board sports. I think they're I think I've always been into board sports. I think there, I think I don't know for whatever reason that was what was cool when I was a kid. Yeah, yeah. All right, I'm gonna call Tom real quick.

How is Tom's recovery? You know, honestly that day changed his life because I know I'm not gonna speak for Tom, but I will. He, I think at that moment, he caught me the day that day and he goes, you know, they say that number one way men over 40 hurt themselves is playing basketball. And I was like, dude, we're not going to go that hard. And he's like, he's like, yeah, you're right. You know, it's before that was before and then we went there, he blew out his knee, broke his arm. And

and it happened and everyone walked in the in his thing and they were like, wow, man, a guy, your size, what were you doing playing basketball? Oh, well, I think it fucked with his head. And now he has been working out. He has been working out. He followed all his recovery to a tee. He did.

He's had like four or five surgeries on that arm because there was, there was nerve damage in that arm from the break. Um, he said he's done everything and he's now lost. He's like 205 pounds. He was 270 in that video. He's 205 pounds. He looks amazing, almost unrecognizable, but it's all because of that moment. It was like a real wake up call of like life isn't guaranteed.

You're fucking Mobility is so important and and literally he is I mean, he's a little bit I'm gonna say I've you know I bust his balls all day long because it inspiration me He sent me a picture of him in In Hawaii take a look at this. You're gonna go that's not the same fucking guy, but his leg is flake healed Kind of kind of I think so. I mean, I don't know if you ever really, I don't know how, I think his leg is,

I think his arm is, but I think he's always gonna have like, like, when I pulled off my, my triceps, I can bench more than I've ever benched, but I definitely notice it. There's a difference. Like, I don't think you ever fully recover from something that traumatic from him. I mean, I don't know.

Do you think you'll have like a hundred percent recovery? I'm not really gonna accept anything else. So yeah. Yeah, I guess you go, well that's what we get. I'm gonna see if I can find this picture of Tom. Look at this. Now you remember how fat he was in that picture

when he was laying on the ground, right? Yes. Look at that guy. So I'm the same guy, right? Yeah. So I'm the same. Is that Laird Hamilton? Yeah. I mean, it's very relatable and stand up as a guy who's jacked and rich. A lot of people are like, man, I want to be friends with Joe Pesky.

All right, I'm going to call Tom and that's how it went in the episode. I appreciate you doing this. My pleasure. You are the best and it's so cool. It's so cool to fucking be able to talk to you like this because like I said, I'm a fan of all boardsports, but skateboarding is the most accessible for me. And then you're going to teach me how to fucking kick flip. All right. Let's call Tommy. Ollie, Ollie, I'll like. If you were to try kick flip, but that might go the way of Tom. All right. We'll FaceTime him.

No, no, we'll leave a message because I guarantee you he's flying today. Okay. Um, what's your rest of your day look like? Uh, we're just, I'm striving home. San Diego. Really? Hey, Tom, I'm with Tony Hawk. I did what you asked me. I showed him the video of you surfing and he and playing basketball and playing basketball. He thinks you're a much better surfer than basketball. Here's the deal buddy.

Surf champ talent. We go to Waco, we run out the pool, Tony's in. He's gonna, we'll run out the pool for the day. We have the surf champ talent coming up. Your dream's coming true, you get to surf at Tony Hawk. We're doing it. I made it happen for you big guy. I gotta invite Jason to.

Jason's like it's a- We might as you big guy. I got to invite Jason to. Jason is like it's a double makeup. We got the full podcast. Let's invite Rogan. Invite Rogan. The Kelley Slaider. Fuck. Why don't we just go to Kelley Slaider's fucking place?

Tell Rogan to call Kelley Slaider. That's a taller order, but I'm down. What wake up surf park it is. We're gonna have corn dogs for dinner. All right, I love you buddy. Bye. All right. Kelley's way is, you know, that's the premier wave just seeing it. Yeah, it's just it's it's it's you only get like 15 minutes on the way

Well, you can rent it for the day. It's much more than wake up. I know it's over 50 grand for the day. What the fuck Are you fucking kidding me? How much is Waco? It's gotta be a thousand. Closer to, depending on what you do, how long it is, 10-15. 10-15? Yeah. No, there's no way Tom's cardio is for shit. There's no way he's gonna last for fucking all day.

We get it for a solid hour. But also the Kelly Wave, it's a different technology. So you, one wave every five minutes. What do you mean? The one have one wave every five minutes. What do you mean? The one wave comes through every five minutes. Did you get a wave five minutes for a fucking wave? Yeah, and if you miss it, back in the line. It's, I mean, when you catch it, it's amazing.

Have you done that too? Oh yeah, have I seen you do that one? Yeah, probably. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it barrels every time. Really? Is it better than the ocean? I liken, it barrels every time. Really? Yeah. Is it better than the ocean? It's, I liken it to a skate park.

Like, it's a skate park in the water. It's, you can rely on it to be the same every time. You can learn tricks. Yeah. Because you can, you know, oh, this is exactly how it's going to go. In the ocean, it's like, you've got to try to read the wave and wait for the moment, which in and of itself is amazing, but it's much more spontaneous. And Kelly's wave is like, all right, it's going to throw right now.

Get ahead of it. Get in it. Or this is the spot to do an air. That's crazy. One of the things that Koehrothman said when he was doing the pipeline masters is he said, I didn't realize how little I knew. I'm paraphrasing co-ipologize, but he goes, I didn't realize how little I knew this break.

He goes, I, when no one's in the water, I don't know where to go. He was like, he was like, when no one's in the water, I'm just going like, where the fuck is it? Yeah, you gotta line yourself up on the coast. Yeah, and he was like, he was like, it was, he was, I still got it, but it was like, it was challenging. I thought that was like, oh fuck.

See that, my perspective is, I'm not a fan of huge waves because of just getting caught in them. I'm dying. And so whenever I've been to a heavy spot, I am always looking at the coast to line up because I don't want to be caught inside. Yeah. Because I've been caught inside.

I'm big waves and it's traumatic. Really? Have you ever been toe in surfing? Yeah Really? Is that scary? I would think it would not be miscarried. It's surprisingly less scary because you end up so far ahead of the wave once it breaks that it feels like You're out running it. It's almost like a lap dance like you You just ended out there and then if you come in your pants, no one tells anybody right Is that what it's like? I I I don't know I can't say I've experienced

both so all right we'll go to strip club and wave at wake up at night there's a great one called jaguars we should get chippin joana to do this with us you know the bug in renovators they live in wake up that's how you know what every time I go That's what people say. She been Joanna like the biggest thing in Waco. I know I know they turned this town that tear Where did it Terry Shribo? What was the name of the guy that shot up all the people burn his people up? Oh Oh, yeah No, no, no Who was a vegetable Terry Shribo wouldn't Teresh Shiba. It was Jesus Christ. Teri, Teri, Miss Col, Miss Colky, that's him.

How the fucking, you're not gonna find, you're not gonna put it on Wikipedia's. It's got a zoo. This is where all those, the club devadiens, devadiens, devadiens. Yeah, praise to Vadiens. Praise to Vadiens. Yeah, that's correct.

David Corrash, where were you when David crashed? When that happened to you, my boy, I was in my fraternity house. And I had no frame of reference for anything of what it was about. And I was. It looked very confusing and chaotic on TV. It's back when we used to believe in media. All right. I want to say that.

I want to say that. Aren't you the media? I guess I have. Oh, how the turn tables. My daughter, my daughter, George, I'm going to wrap this podcast up by swording out. My daughter, George, who was taking, was said she's wanted to major in media in college. And I go, that's fucking ridiculous. And she goes, why? I go, because the media is fucking gone, baby. Why would you do the fucking media?

I go there's the media is not done exist anymore She goes, I think it's interesting I go okay. Well, I'm not gonna change you. Whatever you want to do But that's such a broad term now. You can't then she said to me Yes Leandos. Yeah, yeah, she's spending a son of her work. She's got a post for podcasts to go podcast What's the fuck she have a podcast for she was it's the media? I said what yeah, and I enjoyed it came out to me and go you have a podcast she goes. Yeah, it's for school I go why would you do that she goes cuz it's media dad know what? Podcasts are media and she

You're part of the media you didn't know that exactly. I'm a part of the media. She goes. Oh, yeah BCCBS. Yeah, she goes we talk about your buddy Joe Rogan in class. I went for real. She was like, oh my God. I can't imagine. My son, my son, Kagan is doing media as well. Is he doing podcasting and stuff? Oh, powder.

Yeah, but he's editing videos and stuff. Yeah, really? Yeah. But media, creating media. I'm college right now. I'll pay him $250,000 a year. It's the best fucking.

If I would, if I had a kid right now I go learn how to do a graphic design and editing He edits god damn that's so fucking valuable good editors are so hard to come by and Once you find one you got to lock him down. It's like a woman It's like a woman once you find the right one you got to cut the top off your crown I'm wearing like a wristband and get her pregnant. That's what Tony Hawk wants you to leave on. Ladies and gentlemen, the greatest skater in the world.

Thank you. Tony Hawk, thank you, speedy recovery. Thank you very much. Surf champs, Waco, Texas. Yeah, also Hawk vs. Wolf, our podcast. Check out Hawk vs. Wolf. It's fantastic podcast. We'll do Hawk vs. Wolf and two bears won cave.

Surf off coming soon. I love it. I love it. And I guess you get points for the least amount of clothes. You know Jason and I will be fucking naked. Oh Jason, if you could be more than naked, Jason would be it. Yeah. Oh, I bet Jason and I are the same.

You and Tom are the same. Okay. We should have you and Tom versus me and Jason. Ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah, sounds good. I love you brother. Thank you for doing this. Thank you, Mom.

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