20/20 - Death in the Dorms Season 1: Episode 5: Samantha Josephson

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

South Carolina University senior, Samantha Josephson, enjoyed a night out with friends. Then she called for a rideshare and never made it home.  Originally Aired 01/05/23 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey there 2020 listeners, this is Deborah Roberts with another installment of Death in the Dorms from ABC News Studios. This week we'll hear the story of Samantha Josephson, a graduating fourth year and prospective law student from the University of South Carolina who called a ride share and never made it home. They say time heals all things, but I think that's bullsh-t. I think you just learn how to adapt to go on. 911, what's emergency? Our friend is missing.

I don't think any of us, as much as you expect the worst to happen, you also don't expect it. It's still the most shocking thing when you actually hear it. She still hasn't made it home. the most shocking thing when you actually hear it. Everybody I did know, it felt like it hit them in some way. She was one of us, so to speak, one of us, one of us Gamecocks. I will never forget Miss Josephson when they told her the news. I'll remember that for the rest of my life.

Yeah, you said you've been working in law enforcement for 26 years? I have. And this really sticks out to you? Absolutely. We think we have a safe city here, but this might happen again. It's just really scary to think that, like, that can happen to anyone. My husband Seymour and I met, I was in college and he was working at the supermarket and I used to go through his lane because I thought he was cute and I invited him to a party and he did not show up.

But then two years later, someone introduced us and we went out and we were driving past the supermarket and he said, oh, I used to work there. So then we knew that he was the one whose lane I used to go through. Samantha was born August 13th, 1997. I just remember Sydney kept calling her baby. She wouldn't call her Sam for the longest time. Sammy was younger than me.

She was 20 months younger than me, even though I always, for the most part, would refer to her as two years younger. She would always correct me and say that we were not two years apart, because we were one year in school. She was always silly, goofy. The life of the party would like to make people smile. She was a really good person, cared deeply about the people that she cared about, would do anything for them.

Sid was always put together kind of like, if we were playing house, Sid would be the mom character. Sammy would be the rambunctious, kind of out of line, younger sibling that you had. But like, you always could go and look at Sammy and you knew that she was up to no good, but you'd have fun doing it.

Samantha was a little bit a mix of everything. She was very sensitive, but she was also like wanted to be the class clown. Growing up, Sammy wanted to do so many different things. At one point, she was really into makeup. She wanted to be a makeup artist. She would always do my makeup. But she eventually grew into wanting to be a lawyer.

I think Sammy wanted to go to law school because she wanted to change the world a little bit. You always knew that she wanted to help people, whether it be help people throughout the day or help people throughout their life. She always like had that ambition. So when we were looking for colleges because the girls were only one year apart in school, we went to the University of South Carolina with Sydney. So Sammy came and we wanted her to also, you know, take it in. We all flew down.

My family loved the school, Sammy especially. I didn't end up going there for different reasons, but Sammy then decided after that trip that she really wanted to go there. And she got in obviously, and she had her mind made up that's where she was going. I'm Timothy Boddy. I go by T. Michael Boddy. I was one of two managing editors of the student newspaper at the University of South Carolina. It's called the Daily Game Cock.

["Campus Urban"] If you were to Google the university, I'm sure the Wikipedia page would say campus urban. It's an urban campus in the sense that it is pretty well integrated into the city. You know, restaurants, shops, that kind of thing, you'll hit them without realizing that you're off of the campus. The campus, even though it is in the middle of a city, does have a very campus-y vibe to it where there's grass and trees and areas for you to sit.

It was a big sports culture, really big Greek life culture. I mean, I don't remember the exact percentage of the students that were in fraternities and sororities, but it was a lot. We actually dropped her off on her 18th birthday was her first day at college. She really acclimated to the school and she enjoyed it. Having Samantha be in South Carolina and being so far from home, it's a 12-hour drive or a flight, it was

difficult in the sense of letting go, because God forbid if anything happens. But you just hope that you did enough, and you did things right. I remember for Parents Weekend we went to a football game, which was a lot of fun. She seemed very at home and like she knew everything about it, so she was excited to show all of us. Samantha joined the sorority Alpha Gamma Delta and made a lot of nice friends,

had a lot of connections. She became close with this one guy, Greg, who then they started dating at some point. I know that they were friendly for some time before they started dating. She was happy with Greg. He was, as far as I know, happy with her. They were in a good spot. Samantha really didn't want her senior year to end. She loved it so much down at University of South Carolina. But she knew she was getting ready for law school.

So Samantha had applied to Rutgers and that was really where she wanted to go to law school. She also applied at Drexel in Philadelphia. At Drexel she had a full scholarship. At Rutgers she had a scholarship but it was not a full scholarship. So she decided to go to Drexel. They flew her up for Student Acceptance Day. Then we went to a winery, Marcy, Sydney and I, and Samantha. It was just really nice.

It was just really nice. It was still... It was the last time that we were all together. She went back to University of South Carolina that Monday morning. Sammy had about a month left until graduation, a little bit more. That's the kind of time where everybody is really taking in the last parts of college, being with your friends that you don't know the next time you're going to be that close to, if ever. So just a happy time, a celebration. The way that the university is situated, it's situated at the top of a hill that leads down

into a very popular bar district called Five Points. And that is where a lot of kids would go every night. Sammy was just the life of the party. You'd always be having the best time whenever you were with Sammy. She brought that joy to life. That Thursday night, she called me to ask me if she could use my credit card for the Uber because her somehow,

someway never worked, so she always used mine. Samantha went out with her friends that night. They typically went out on Thursday nights. Samantha Josephson and her friends, they were out here at this bar called the Bird Dog. And that was the last time we had any type of communication. Disturbing mystery out of South Carolina.

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And he said to me, Marcy, we can't find Sammy. And I said, what do you mean you can't find her? And he said that he was at home with his parents in Charleston. He said that her roommates couldn't find her. She didn't come home that night. And I just kind of froze. And he told me he was going to leave to go to Columbia to help his friends track down Sammy.

going to leave to go to Columbia to help his friends track down Sammy. I get a phone call from Marcy saying, have you spoken to Greg? I said no. She goes, uh, Sammy's missing. I'm like, what? She goes, he called me and told me that Sammy's missing. She never came home last night. I said, get home. We're going down. She goes, what do you mean? I go, get home now.

We're going down. We're driving down. My dad called me and I answered him and he very sternly told me that I needed to come home now. And I asked him why and he said that something with Sammy, she's missing. And I was like, oh, she's probably like her phone's dead. She's fine. He's like, no, you need to come home. So I did. Marcy then got home. We threw stuff in a bag and we just, and Sydney, I said, stay here, watch the dog.

Hopefully we should be back, we'll be back this weekend. Before we left, I had called one of Samantha's roommates, Carly, to find out what was going on. And she said that we've called the police. We don't think she went home with a guy or anything. We're actually worried. On March 29, 2019, I received a call from my captain at the time that said we had a call out to assist Columbia Police Department. I am a lieutenant in the Midlands Investigative Unit with the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division.

We're here to assist with whether it be manpower or technical assistance, and within the Midlands Unit we have 10 counties that we assist. Several agents were called out from SLED to assist along with several Columbia PD investigators. And we were tasked with interviewing the roommates of Samantha Josephson. The friends had told us that the night that this occurred, there were multiple friends that would be graduating. And at this point, they just want to go out

and have a good time. They all go to Five Points together. They go to the Bird Dog. Samantha decides she's ready to go home around 2 AM on the morning of the 29th. And she contacts an Uber. Her friends, they think she's taken the Uber, so they return home.

When they return to the apartment, Samantha is not there. At this point, they also have a system where they all would keep up with one another and track one another through apps on their phone. So at this point, they're looking for her through the apps. Greg's looking for her through the apps. And it shows her phone going into the Rosewood area. And the phone's docked. area, and the phone stopped.

And at this point, we've learned that she'd never got into the Uber. It was canceled due to her not being at the location according to the Uber driver. So now we're trying to figure out, Samantha, where has she been, where did she go? I was just kind of like waiting to hear that she was okay. I remember playing with my dog outside and one of my neighbors came over after work and just kind of like strongly suggested that I come over. So basically told me like I needed to come over their house and that I was going to have dinner with them. We were all posting on social media like begging for help or if anybody had any information.

I remember being at the desk in one of the residence halls and learning that Sammy had gone missing. Everybody I did know, it felt like it hit them in some way. Even if we didn't know her, she was one of us, so to speak, one of us, one of us game cogs. It was one of those things where it's so outside the realm of what you would be thinking about at any moment, that it would take a minute to really process it.

I was at work when I found out about Sammy. I was going through my phone and started to see all of the posts on Instagram actually of Samantha's missing, what's going on? And I ran out of the meeting and I called my mom immediately. I was like, is this true? What's going on? And she's like, yeah, this is true.

Seymour and Marcy are on their way down to South Carolina right now. And you should come home from work. To drive down was pretty quiet. You just want to get down there as quick as possible. And I'm driving fast. I'm driving 85 miles an hour, 90 miles an hour down there. When you're talking to the police on the way down,

what time's your ETA, what time's your ETA? And I'm like, all right, do you have any... I'll be down there whenever. And asking about updates and speaking to the police about do you have any, I'll be down there whenever. And asking about updates and speaking to the police about do you have any updates? Do you have your founder? Do you have any leads? Detective Odom of the Columbia Police Department.

She was my main contact for the day. And I remember her for the second time, going, what's your ETA? And I'm like, it's saying 12 o'clock, whatever it was. She was, okay, just come right to the, you know, when you get into Columbia, just come right into the police department. I'm like, okay. And I hung up the phone and I remember looking out to my left,

away from Mars and I go, this is not going to end well. I just got an empty feeling, an empty wave over me that I knew that something was bad. I'm a special agent, Lee Blackman. I work with the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division in the Midlands Investigative Section of SLED. On the afternoon of March the 29th, I was actually out at the movies with my family and I actually saw media reports that there was a young lady, a student from the University of South Carolina that was missing from Five Points. The Columbia Police Department had already notified the officers on patrol, not just within Columbia, Richland County and the surrounding counties had been notified.

And on our way home from the movies, I received a call that a body had been discovered in Clarendon County. Clarendon County Sheriff's Office received a call from two gentlemen that were out turkey hunting. They had went to a field kind of in a remote location to like scout for turkeys. While they were down there, they located a deceased female in a wooded area. I was told that the manner in which the body had been found and the injuries that the body had, that this was a horrendous situation,

and that the victim had been brutally murdered. Columbia PD had put out a BOLO for Samantha as a missing person. Based on her physical description and her clothing description, they believed it to be Samantha at that point. When I was called out, I responded to a Columbia Police Department annex,

which is near Williams-Brice Stadium, which is the University of South Carolina football's team stadium. And that's where I first learned that there were friends of Samantha that were there that needed to be interviewed, including her boyfriend, and that her parents were on the way to that facility as well. When we got to the police station, they took us into a room. There were a lot of people in the room, and they were introducing us to people.

And the first thing I saw was there was a man with a jacket, and on the jacket it said, coroner. And I just put my head down, and I just grabbed onto Marcy. And then they told us. They said that they think they found Sammy. They weren't 100% sure, but she matched the description of what she was wearing.

And we just broke down. I remember slamming the table, hitting a wall, Um, Marcy breaking down. I remember my neighbor Jody answering the phone. My dad had called her and she just like drops to the ground and just starts crying. And I just remember grabbing the phone from her because I needed to hear it myself. I needed to hear my dad.

And I could hear my mom in the background just crying. And I only remember exactly what my dad said, but I think he said something that she was gone she was gone and I just remember like totally losing, I couldn't breathe. That was the hardest call. One of the hardest things I had to do ever. The fact that Sydney wasn't with us, I don't know if it was good or bad, but you know, I would have liked to have hugged her and held her at the time. Marcy and I went into autopilot. At least I did. I just wanted to find a guy.

I was a senior when this happened and the word did spread really, really fast. One day you're with your friend, and the next day you may never see them again. And it's kind of a morbid thought that it does happen, and sadly it happened here. This hurts, whether you knew the person or not, because it was just so awful what happened. We hang out at Five Points, like, every weekend,

so it's scary. We hang out at Five Points like every weekend, so it's scary. We were around the area, could have been any of us. You'll spend some time going, no, no, no, that didn't happen. No way. Before it really hits you that it did happen. When I arrived at the annex and started my part of the investigation, the Cleveland Police Department had already recovered the video from the Bird Dog Lounge. And it showed Samantha Josephine outside. On the video you see Samantha, she's standing on what I would consider the island of the

sidewalk in front of the bird dog. And when she's standing there, it's apparent she's looking for someone to pick her up. We know that she had requested through an app her Uber. It was canceled due to her not being at the location according to the Uber driver. And at that point, we're able to see a black Chevrolet Impala come out of the side parking lot next to the bird dog. It showed her getting inside the dark-colored Impala, and it was not an Uber vehicle. On the video, you cannot see a license plate. So at this point, we started gathering more video from the downtown area. Watching the videos, you could see

her getting into the vehicle. And we could watch it leave five points and leave that area with her inside the vehicle. We know at this point that we are looking for a black Chevy Impala. Columbia PD puts out a BOLO to all of their units as well as all the surrounding agencies to be on the lookout for this black Chevrolet Impala. We knew that we were looking, in a sense, for a needle in the haystack.

We flew down to South Carolina, drove to meet up with my parents, and then pretty quickly we're involved with just talking with the cops and everyone there, and we all just kind of waited for answers from the cops. After we had interviewed the friends and after we had spoken with Samantha's parents, I actually stepped outside to take a break to kind of get my thoughts together on where I thought we needed to go next. What would be important for us to do next? go next, what would be important for us to do next? I said a short prayer.

I said, God, please, please give us a lead. Please help us find some information to move this investigation along. Because there's a fear already when a case like this starts that you may not solve it. You may not find the person who did this. And I remember walking back in the door, and as soon as I did, one of the Columbia PD investigators said, we got to get to five points. One of our officers just stopped dark-cutting Impala. The god had already answered my prayer before I prayed it. Ha.

Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. All right, here's the deal, man. Mm-hmm. I pulled your car over because it matches the suspect.

Get your hand in your pocket. And the driver took off and ran. Hey, get over here. Go and run it. Bravo Mike wearing a gray sweatspants, gray sweatshirt. Nunez, keep going. He's going to be on your left. Right there, right there, right going. He's going to be on your left.

Right there, right there, right there. I got him. They called him and went by to the car, and there appears to be blood in the backseat. Of course, that gets everybody's attention at that point. It's well more than a traffic stop. Blood on the seat. There's blood on the driver's seat too. that will last all year long. A Guardian Bike. The easiest, safest, and quickest bikes for kids to learn on. Kids are learning to ride in just one day. No training wheels needed. What sets Guardian Bikes apart? Designed especially for stability. They're low to the ground with a

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We talked to the officers who had been part of the car stop, and they had found a phone. The phone matched the description of Samantha's phone. Look at this. Girl iPhone. We looked in the backseat, and you could see what appeared to be blood. Look at the back of the seat. Oh, there's blood all over there, man.

Yeah, something happened. He was not telling us who he was. He was not identifying himself. You gonna tell me your name? Huh? We had already started the process of taking pictures and doing facial recognition to see if we could determine who he was. We're gonna get a fingerprint scanner could determine who he was. We're going to get a fingerprint scanner and see who you are. He's determined to be Nathaniel Rowland.

He was 24 years old, and he lives in South Carolina. We were on scene talking to those officers who had stopped the vehicle when I got word that Nathaniel Rolland wanted to speak to an investigator. I was told you wanted to talk to somebody, so I'm the one that came up here to talk to you. Do you understand that you jumped out and ran from the police and they caught you pushing the back seat of the car? Yes, sir.

OK. At that point, there had been some narcotics found inside the vehicle. And of course, plus with the blood and the other things in there. Daniel, do you want to talk to me about where you've been left up to date? I was just partying.

OK. He gave an explanation that he had been partying the night before in some apartment complexes near the university and that he was in the apartment, had been drinking too much. I woke up this morning, my T's running in my pocket, and I fell asleep at Stadium Suite. You fell asleep at Stadium Suite? Yeah. And when he went outside to try to find his car in the parking lot, it was not located

in the place where he had parked it. And when he did find his car, he opened the door and looked in, and there was blood inside. What you're trying to tell me is somebody else got in your car last night, most likely, and all of a sudden, there's blood in the back. Is that what you're telling me, Nathan? Someone else barged my car.

At that time, we knew that Samantha had been murdered, and we're looking at a person that all of a sudden, he's on our radar now. And we want to find out more about him. And we asked him if he would wish to talk further with us, and we had him transported to the Columbia P.D. Annex that we're working out of. I'm gonna straight up. Because listen, and I'm gonna tell you something, OK? What was the reason?

Because, listen, and I'm going to tell you something, okay? There was a girl who was abducted from Hardin Street in Five Points around 2 10 or so Friday morning. Okay? He was still sort of passive in his answers to us. Her phone's in your car. He simply just refused to have any more conversations with us at that point. You don't just get tunnel vision and think, well, we got our man here. We have to look at him. Of course, he's in our picture now.

We have to find out where he's been. Do I do diligence to look to see, hey, is he involved or is he not involved? We knew at that point that we had a big piece of evidence. And that big piece of evidence was his vehicle. We also had a phone that we believe was Samantha Josephson's phone. He also had phones on his vehicle. We also had a phone that we believe was Samantha Josephson's phone. He also had phones on his person. And we knew that we needed to get the ball rolling as soon as

we could to start processing the phones and processing that vehicle. At this point, I was with our crime scene agents and they go to do a thorough search based on the search warrant for the Black Share land pallet. We're able to see a lot more clearly into the vehicle. It appears that the child locks are engaged in the vehicle. And once Samantha stepped in the backseat of that vehicle. She couldn't escape. And there is tons of blood. I have never seen that much blood in any crime scene that I've ever been on in my 26 years. We actually had some of our sled lab workers come in immediately to the office in the wee hours of the morning to start, as we call it, spinning the DNA to get a DNA profile

from the blood that was found inside the vehicle. Our lab was able to turn it around and determine that the blood located in the vehicle was that of Samantha Josephson. At this point, I know that everything we're doing now and everything we're about to do is for Samantha, is to make sure that we get justice for Samantha and for Samantha's family. I remember being at the Soda City Market, which is a little market on Main Street in downtown Columbia on Saturday morning, March the 30th.

I was there with my family. We were walking around enjoying a beautiful day when I got a call late that morning from the Columbia Police Department telling me, hey, we have something pretty serious here and we need to talk to you about it. That Saturday morning I was actually headed out of town with my daughter, headed to a softball tournament, and I got a call from my deputy solicitor, Dan Goldberg, and he at that point began to inform me that there's a person of interest. At this point, agents from the Columbia Police Department and the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division are working together and independently.

They started to kind of confiscate as much information as they could about cell phone records and cameras. So in this case, investigators knew they had to take a look at both Samantha's phone and Mr. Rowland's phone. And what they discovered was that both his phone and her phone tracked to the same path to the point that Ms. Judgson's phone turned off. But more importantly, a look at Mr. Rowland's phone records showed his phone traveling out of Columbia up Highway 378 to just a short distance away from where Samantha was found.

In South Carolina, we as the prosecutors, we as the solicitors, we stay in an advisory role. We don't put out the warrant. Law enforcement will actually do the investigation. They'll consult with us about, you know, maybe elements of the crime and just different things that need to be done, but ultimately it's their decision to make the arrest.

They made the warrants and the arrests when they were comfortable that they had probable cause that McTamara Rowland had murdered Samantha Josephson and kidnapped Samantha Josephson. Roland had murdered Samantha Josephson and kidnapped Samantha Josephson. 24-year-old Nathaniel David Rowland has been arrested. And the charges at this point are murder with malice of forethought. The most serious murder there is under South Carolina law as well as kidnapping. We believe she simply mistakenly got into this particular car thinking it was an Uber ride. The Columbia Police Department Chief came and gave us an update.

an update. And they basically told us that they had found someone that they suspected was her killer and that they had gotten him basically. We were relieved that they caught him, but I have to say it still didn't feel real. You know, I guess I still kind of wait for her to come home. I could tell that it was tough on the reporters under me at the student paper, but I needed them because this was a team effort. If I was somewhere like tied up at a desk

in a residence hall, I would have needed somebody else to call this person for me, get a police report for me, go and attend the vigil that these students and Sammy's parents are having. that these students and Sammy's parents are having. Wow. It's amazing to see everybody out here. The Gamecocks, you are safe, your people. How you guys have come together, how you pulled this together.

We first met Sammy during our freshman year when we all pledged Alpha Gam. There will never be another soul like Sammy Josephson. You brought us back together, one last chance to steal the show. She embodied the phrase, work hard, play hard. We often called her the next Amal Clooney because we knew how far she would go in the field of international law. I look at all of you guys and I see that even in the short time that she was here, how many people she positively impacted with her energy and the positive attitude. Where you can make us laugh again. So at this point, Nathaniel's been charged. But the way we look at it, this is just the beginning of our investigation.

We have more items that we need to follow up. One thing that was occurring initially was the autopsy. One thing that was occurring initially was the autopsy. Initially, we were told that they believed Samantha had suffered approximately 40-plus stab wounds. Once the autopsy is conducted, we're told it was well over 100 stab wounds. These wounds were very specific wounds.

It was almost as if there was two points to the knife, and it's almost as if they crossed over one another. And it was due to the type of item that was used. We were kind of told that it was not normal. It was not just a plain knife. It was something that should match to the wounds on Samantha, if we could find it. It was important to us as the prosecutors on the case to establish a relationship with the Josephson family.

And I can recall on the day that they were leaving Columbia to go back to New Jersey, Mr. Rowland had already been arrested. The investigation was still ongoing. Myself and our team went to their hotel early that morning before 8 a.m. to catch them and introduce ourselves before they left town. I remember telling them this is what I want. I want the death penalty. I want him

to fry. So I remember saying all that means nothing, but I remember saying it. But the whole group met with the solicitors. After, I remember my one cousin was like, we need to start planning the funeral, Seymour. We really need to start doing this. We need to, we need to get this done. And I didn't want to because

who the hell wants to, who the hell wants to bury their baby? You're supposed to die before them. Right, so who wants to do that? ["The Man Accused of Kidnapping and Killing"] This morning, the man accused of kidnapping and killing a University of South Carolina senior is behind bars. It's just really scary to think that, like,

that can happen to anyone. Today on campus, some students saying they'll continue to be vigilant. I'm definitely gonna be checking, like, who's my Uber driver, checking the license plates, all that stuff. I've been telling all my friends that. I'm definitely gonna track the car plates, like, the car plate number,

and not, I'm not calling a new brand alone. ... ... And I'm not calling a newborn alone. I'm not calling a newborn alone. I'm not calling a newborn alone. I'm not calling a newborn alone. I'm not calling a newborn alone. I'm not calling a newborn alone. I'm not calling a newborn alone. I'm not calling a newborn alone.

I'm not calling a newborn alone. I'm not calling a newborn alone. I'm not calling a newborn alone. I'm not calling a newborn alone. I'm not calling a newborn alone. I'm not calling a newborn alone. But there wasn't anything yet that put Nathaniel Rowland inside the vehicle at the time that Samantha was killed. So investigators were challenged with gathering as much evidence as they could that could be pieced together to show that he had to be the one in the car.

When Nathaniel's vehicle was first searched, there were several documents that were located inside the vehicle. One was an eviction notice. And it had the name Maria on it with a Mountain Brook address, which was in Columbia. And we knew that that was important, because that could be a person who was an associate or somebody who knew Nathaniel.

So on the afternoon of April 3rd, myself and an investigator with the Columbia Police Department went to that address on Mountain Brook. I knocked on the door, and a lady came to the door, and she told me that she was Maria. I introduced myself. And she agreed to come and talk with us. We took her back to the Columbia Police Department annex

and sat down and had an interview with her. I believe Blackner was sleeping. That's a camera that's set up for audio video recording. OK? Um, like I said, we just want to get some information from him. Maria tells us she does know Nathaniel, that they're somewhat of an item. On the morning of the 29th, she had to be at work at a certain time.

And her ride to work was going to be Nathaniel. He arrived late, and she was going to be late for work. And by this time, you're downstairs at your neighbor's house. Waiting on him? Waiting on him. He pulls up, and you get in the car. Tell me what you saw in the car.

And that leads to me. I want you to be completely, 100% honest with us. What did you see in the car? Something across the seat. What do you look like? A sheep. What kind of sheep? A white sheep. She sees something and thinks it's blood.

What did he say when you asked about it? Why the f*** are you asking me all these questions? She sees him again that afternoon at her residence. What happened to the sheet? Do you have it? No. Where is it at? I don't know. I don't know what he did with it.

What we learned is that Nathaniel started cleaning his car out at Maria's. It just looked like something was clean. And I was like, what the f***? It's clean and clean. out at Maria's. She saw him cleaning those things at her residence. And he was disposing of those things in trash cans at her residence. Where's that trash at? It's in my trash can. When they take it? It's next Monday. Okay.

So whatever trash was there, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, was building. So we're getting a search going for your residents. And what we're gonna have is our crime scene units go to your house and search your house, okay? We found all kind of cleaning supplies. We found all kinds of cleaning supplies. And bloody sheets. Bloody towels. Bloody gloves.

And eventually a multi-purpose tool that had hair on it, had blood on it. The information that came from the autopsy, we knew we were looking for a unique type of weapon, one that had two blades on it. And when we found the weapon that we found at Maria's house, we knew that we had found the weapon, no doubt had caused those injuries. And it was proven forensically to be so.

At this point, it's like we're checking boxes. Every time we find one thing, we find another thing. Our analysts that were studying Samantha's phone saw where it was powered on at a business that buys and sells used cell phones. And they've marked that as a place of interest that we needed to go check out. I went there and spoke to the store manager who was actually able to pull up video. And we see Nathaniel Rowland enter into that store with Samantha Josephson's phone in his hand.

He passes it over to the counter in an attempt to sell the phone. We're able to see Nathaniel in that 2017 black and brown, you know, pulling up to the place. We're able to see a sheet that has blood marks on it inside of the car. That matches up with something Maria said. When you start putting all of these pieces together, they put the puzzle together perfectly so that we know we've got the person who did this thing.

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I was very, very nervous prior to going because I didn't know what to expect. I was afraid of hearing things that I didn't want to hear. It was really long and stressful and tiring and just draining, having to relive everything. She was dragged into the woods and left alone, covered in her own blood. On behalf of Mr. Rowland's family, I would just like the court to know that they have stood behind him 100% from the day of his arrest. They have believed from the beginning that the wrong person had been charged, and they

still hold that belief today. It was tough looking at him. What kind of animal does this? And then shows no remorse. After just an hour of deliberation, the jury found Roland guilty of three counts, murder, kidnapping, and possession of a weapon during a violent crime.

When they read it, the arm pump of saying yes, then I know the three of us were crying. It was just nice to finally get some type of, like, I can't even say closure, but just some part of it was finally, like, done. The judge, he sentenced Mr. Rowland to life in prison because that's exactly, quite frankly, the type of sentence that was appropriate for this kind of horrific act. I have to thank, you know, the judge and the jury. They were, they were fair. Today's a brand new day. The big part of the takeaway for people was that we will not forget Samantha Joseph's

name. It's never hopeless if you don't think it is. It's really all in how you're looking at it. This whole thing caused Uber and Lyft to come out of the woodwork making statements about what they're planning to do with their own companies. For us, it's a reminder that we have to constantly do everything we can to raise the bar on safety. New Jersey actually reached out to Marcy and I and wanted our input on a bill. We tried to come up with a way of ensuring that at a minimum when somebody gets into

that Uber or Lyft, it is verified that is your driver and they know this is their rider as well. We did share our bill with our state, the state of New Jersey, and they took it almost verbatim with a few tweaks. Almost immediately the notion of passing a law that would do everything we could to prevent something like this from ever happening in New Jersey was an immediate impulse both by the legislature as well as by my office. It's called Sammy's Law and that law did go through

where you had to have a QR code on a car window so that you could confirm your ride before getting in. Choose a love of a free, choose a love of a free. We passed a Sammy's Law in the last Congress that was comprehensive. It was held up in the Senate like so many bills are. No matter how it gets passed, Sammy's Law has to become law. So be it. Let's just get it done.

I actually have quit my job. All I do now is the foundation. My family and friends put a lot of time and energy into making this foundation, the What's My Name Foundation. Instead of saying, oh, are you here for Sydney? You'd say, who are you here for? Or what's my name? Since we've started the foundation, we've gotten so many emails and messages from people

either saying, you know, thank you because, you know, this saved me or asking us how they could spread the word. I'm just so proud of who she became, proud to be her mom. You know, my heart's broken, but I do have great memories. I miss her laugh. I miss being able to text her

when my parents are annoying me, or send her a picture of the dog when he does something cute. I think just having that person there that you know is going to be there is big. as a bright, fun-loving, great friend, great daughter. MUSIC This is Deborah Roberts. In 2023, Sammy's law was enacted, requiring rideshare corporations to prominently display illuminated company signage and a scannable QR code in the hopes of increasing the safety of drivers and their passengers. The law also makes it a crime to misrepresent oneself as a rideshare driver. In 2024, the South Carolina courts denied Nathaniel Rowland's request to appeal his conviction.

Next week, we'll be closing out season one of Death in the Dorms with an episode about a new first year student from Western Kentucky University and a horrifying attack that leaves investigators scrambling for clues. Death in the Dorms was produced by ABC News Studios with the Intellectual Property Corporation and Yes Like a River for Hulu Originals.

The entire series is streaming on Hulu. And of course, make sure to tune in to ABC Friday nights at 9 for all new broadcast episodes of 2020. Thanks for listening.