20/20 - House of Cards (Rebroadcast)

Episode Date: July 11, 2026

After a mother and daughter are murdered, investigators encounter a self-proclaimed vampire and taunting letters from a killer. Airdate: 02/17/2023. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastcho...ices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Three decades ago, a young woman named Angie Dodge is found brutally murdered in Idaho Falls. Police put a man behind bars. But as the years pass, doubts emerge about whether the real killer was ever caught. That's when Angie's own mother embarks on a decades-long mission to uncover the truth. Listen to The Snare, a new series from ABC Audio. Listen on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app, and ad-free on Amazon Music. I can still feel the murder in the house. We had a 74-year-old woman killed.
Starting point is 00:00:41 A 35-year-old woman killed. Somebody needed to tell their story. The blood, a lot of blood, all over, the mother and the daughter. Angel and mom were definitely a package team. Why would you murder two innocent people? Two innocent women. We have an extremely psychotic, taunting killer who is taking pleasure in the homicide. who is taunting the police and writing this letter.
Starting point is 00:01:07 About 1230 or so, I got my knife and did the dirty deed. What a rush. Don't bother checking for prints or DNA. I'm wearing a body suit and gloves. And then a second letter came in. I write to you again. I must confess I have done it for a second time. And we had a killer, apparently, who was traveling the country.
Starting point is 00:01:31 The two letters sent by the killer made it pretty clear. the killer made it pretty clear he's not only one step ahead of the cops, but the murder spree isn't over. On Friday night, the 4th of July weekend in Norfolk, Virginia, John Schraft is a rookie officer working a weekend shift. It's about 1.30 in the morning, patrol in the East Ocean View area. Driving around, I was by myself doing normal routine patrols in that area. when I got the call from dispatch to respond to Fryden Street. Okay, is there anything? The victim keeps hanging up.
Starting point is 00:02:48 The 911 operator keeps calling her back. This could be anything. An accident, burglary, it is much worse. As I'm approaching the steps, I can see that the interior front door is open and the screen door is shut. And I can also see that there's a light on inside the resonance. In front of him there is a faded sort of beige Oriental rug on the floor.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And there is a lot of red what he takes to be blood. And he sees an older woman on the floor, on the rug, next to a foam that appears to have blood on it. I immediately drew my weapon, opened up the front door, walked in, walked in, asked the elderly female, is there anybody else in the residence? She said, my daughter is in the bedroom. I looked around.
Starting point is 00:04:02 My main concern was, is there the person that did this, is that person still in the residence? Definitely nervous, but your adrenaline takes over for the situation at hand. The lady that was apparently called 911, her name was later determined to be Vanda, Goyena. and she actually was 74 years of age. This woman has been stabbed multiple times
Starting point is 00:04:31 and her throat has been slid. So when the elderly female said, my daughter is in the bedroom, and I took a couple of steps towards the bedroom, walking down the hall. He knew what he was going to find, a second victim. I could see that she was clearly deceased, covered in blood, laying naked face down on the floor.
Starting point is 00:04:58 She was later identified to be Angelique, Goyeke, Gleina. She was 35 years old. Within the blood-soaked bed, you have this heartbreaking image of her childhood teddy bear, also soaked in blood. It is an image that is hard to forget. They've already checked Angel's Room. Now, they have to go through every other room in the house, the closets, the kitchen, to make sure that the killer is not still inside. Detective Walter Whiteside arrives just minutes later. Unfortunately, I've been to a lot of homicide scenes.
Starting point is 00:05:36 It was probably one of the worst. That room literally just looked like something out of the movies. It didn't even look real. Very rarely do you see a scene that gruesome. It was very clear that she had more stab wounds than what you could possibly count. I think it ended up being over 37, 38 stab wounds. There was just no rhyme or reason to why the amount of injuries. injuries were inflicted on the victims.
Starting point is 00:06:07 He can still hear Vonda calling out for Angel. She kept asking me how her angel was doing, if she was dead, if she was okay. It hits home, it does. You try to separate yourself from that, but I've got three children, so, you know, you do kind of empathize. You have to, as a human. It's horrific. And he's starting to realize how many times that she's been stabbed. He knows at this point he does not.
Starting point is 00:06:37 point, he doesn't have a lot of time. As EMT's work, Whiteside steps out to call a homicide detective who tells him what has to happen next. He asked me at that time to do a dying declaration. So a dying declaration is a legal term. Now, normally somebody has the right to confront their accuser in court. This is the exception to that. The accuser is actually dead.
Starting point is 00:07:00 So with their last breath, it's presumed to be the truth. A dying declaration can be used in court, but there is a is one rule. The person has to believe that they're going to die when they give you the statement, and then ultimately they have to die. Normal human compassion is to just tell everybody, oh, you're gonna be okay, keep fighting,
Starting point is 00:07:21 we're helping you. It's completely counterintuitive to look at someone and tell them, you're gonna die. Basically, there's no hope, you're not gonna survive this. For them to tell you their, their last thoughts is this is who did it to me. That's very powerful. Walter Lucas, she says. Walter Lucas.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Two women staffed to death inside this Frieden Street home. Tonight, Norfolk police are looking for the person responsible. Seventy-year-old Vanda Goyena died in the hospital yesterday one day after getting stabbed. Her 35-year-old daughter, Angelique Goyena, died early Saturday morning. The doorframe around the front door had not been forced. They fingerprinted all the windows and found no latent fingerprints on any of the exterior windows to the house, no signs of some sort of forced entry. But nothing is stolen and there is no murder weapon. All the DNA and fingerprints belong to Vonda, Angel, her living fiancé David, and other family members.
Starting point is 00:08:33 The detectives have only one clue to pursue. They have to find Walter Lucas. As a family we gathered and tried to find out what would possibly be a motive. And we couldn't come up with a thing. Why would you murder two innocent people? Two innocent women. Mailbox one, you have three old messages. Well, my answering machine from 15 years ago...
Starting point is 00:09:08 It's Angelique and mom singing happy birthday to me. Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you. I kept it, so a month later they're not on our planet. Happy birthday, here we'll be. I've kept that for 15 years and somehow it's still intact. And many more. We always call their angel. I mean, it's like if your parents called you, you know, by Angelique, come here.
Starting point is 00:09:46 You're in trouble, right? I say, Angel, do you come here, then you're not in trouble, you know. Angel is the baby of the family. She's younger than her three siblings by 16 years. And she loves fantasy novels. She loves dressing up in Elizabethan style. She writes poetry. She writes stories.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And she and her best friend even wrote stories together. There was mythology and there was history. She wanted to believe in the good of everyone, which is something you don't find very. often anymore and that's why for her to be gone and stolen away like that it was heart-wrenching this was a woman who loved imagination loved the magical world we went to a Renaissance fair I think Angel enjoyed just kind of the fun and the carefree nature of it we went to Virginia Beach and on the beach we saw the
Starting point is 00:10:48 statue of Neptune just hung out, and just, it's not time. Angel's job may be in a sandwich shop, but her heart is clearly in our poetry. A heart is judged by the love it gives, its thoughts, deeds, and actions. First, you must open your heart and take a chance. Angel and her mother, Vonda, were very close.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Angel and mom were definitely a package deal. She was the caretaker for her mom, who had dementia and heart problems. and that was her world. Well, it was like my little sister was my mom's keeper. They did watch TV, they read. Angelique would write poetry and photography and art, you know, painting and drawing.
Starting point is 00:11:39 That's what they did. My mom was from West Virginia, and she was a hoop. Oh my gosh, but, you know, you couldn't pull the wool over her eyes at all. You know, we all tried, you know. And she was very very... She was very creative as well. That's probably where Angel got a lot of her creativity. Angelique and Mom would always go to the store together.
Starting point is 00:12:04 They would go out to the beach to go to one of the stores for the Wicca. They love the Wicca store, both of them. Wicca is a pagan spiritual practice. Some Wiccans even call themselves witches. They see all of the earth and sky and moon, all of nature as a mother goddess. Angelique's always been fascinated with the stars. It kind of opened her eyes to nature, sunsets, leaves.
Starting point is 00:12:32 There's definitely energy to things. It's kind of like the force, be with you kind of thing. Beyond that, they also love tarot cards, reading each other's future and fortunes. The tarot cards were, I remember them having tarot cards, both of them. Territ cards, palm reading, that kind of stuff. They had a love of reading, they had a love of tarot cards, nature walks in the park.
Starting point is 00:12:59 They were really in tune with one another, more so as friends, beyond that mother and daughter's special bond. They did everything together. They went everywhere together. Except for, you know, of course, when Angelique would go out on a date. Mom couldn't go then. Agileet meant most of the guys she dated online. She wanted to be married, and she wanted it. Yes, she did. She talked about it. I know that's something she definitely wanted, and she was hopeful.
Starting point is 00:13:29 She did tell me she really wanted to have a child, and she was concerned that she was too old. She was 35. She was on all over the page with dating. One guy, he was really into motorcycles, and so she'd be the passenger. And there's one fellow she dated. He was a pilot, small prop planes, and he let her fly.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And he let her fly. And it seemed to be exciting people that she would date. In 2006, Angel decides to put herself out there. So she signs up to a dating nap. And then days after, she meets a man who's a father of two. What you can't live without, my dreams of finding happiness and love. My true love is out there still to be found. The last book you read.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Stories with werewolves, vampires, and other magical creatures. My sons are both in scouting, so we like to go camping in the life. We like to go camping in things like that. I'm good at dream interpretation. I live with and take care of my mom. He plays a strong emphasis on family as well. I would love one day to get my poetry published. I've dreamed of a night in shining armor.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Don't laugh, but I've kept a medallion of gold and silver of a knight upon a steed for the day I meet him. Angel is discovering so much more about David Hoshall. He is an electrical designer. He's a scout master. He's seeming more and more to her like he could be the one. I remember Angel telling me he seems sweet. She told me he had two boys and they were a big part of his life. I think Angel wanted from David just to kind of be that Prince Charming, that night and shining armor.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Angel meets the sons, all great, and even meets David's ex-wife Naomi. David was an Eagle Scout, so of course he got the boys into scouting. They went camping with the Scouts and they really enjoyed. He enjoyed it. He was an adoring father. When I first met David, my initial thought was, he looks cuddly. He looked cuddly to me. Within a matter of months, they fall in love.
Starting point is 00:15:37 David proposes, and now he's moved in with her and Vonda. An angel is just off and running, planning a wedding. December 18, 2006, David Wayne Hoshaw, Jr. David is my fiance. and this will be the first of many Christmas memories that we will treasure. We are planning on being married September 15th, 2007. Angel was into the Renaissance, and she was having a special dressmate. It was very much Angel. It was red trim, you know, just kind of fairy tale.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And her shoes she actually bought from a store and decorated them the way she wanted them, you know, artists. and all. I think my married name will be pretty. Angelique, Elaine, Hoshaw. I wonder if our children will have dark hair like me and blue eyes like David. I still have the dress that I purchased to wear as made of honor. Of course, neither of those dresses are ever worn.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Two months before her wedding, Angel is killed. Police don't have much to work with at this point. Just a dying declaration with the name Walter Luechard. Lucas. Who is this guy? Police need to track him down. Turns out Walter isn't hard to find. Walter is my ex-husband. We were married in our 20s. And then, you know, we got divorced but he stayed in touch with the family. Everybody loved him. Not only does he seem unlikely, the detectives find that on the night of the murder, Walter was more than 200 miles away. When the detectives told me that Vonda mentioned my name, I knew I wasn't the one because first off, I wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:17:27 and I knew that she had Alzheimer's. I just shrugged it off. But he said my DNA was there, and I said, well, of course, I was there the week before, visiting them. But his alibi checks out, so they have to cross Walter Lucas off the list. At the time that I was interviewed by the detectives,
Starting point is 00:17:47 they said they don't have any leads. If there is no break-in, the next question police ask is who could get into the house? The only people with keys are the two dead women and members of the immediate family. Everyone who has a key, family, David the fiancé, all have alibis too. The family members confirm that David Hoshaw is a couple hours away, and he's on the Middle Peninsula in Virginia at a Boy Scout week-long camp. David is with his 12-year-old son.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Other parents see him there at 11 o'clock Friday night. Now 6.30 Saturday morning, he's there for camp breakfast. And David drives back into Norfolk that afternoon. That Saturday was when he had brought my oldest back to me. And everything was fine. The police track him down, and they tell him that they need him to come down to the station. And then I'd gotten the call from the police department saying that my ex-husband was there and that he needed a ride.
Starting point is 00:18:51 The whole time, I'm like, what happened? And David just say, well, you know, if I was there, I could have saved them. And I'm like, what do you mean if you were there, you could have saved them? You would be dead too. And yeah, it was confusing because we had nobody to go after. No evidence. Days are passing and there's no arrest, no clues, no clear direction. They want justice.
Starting point is 00:19:20 They want answers. It takes a little piece of your soul and it breaks your heart just a little more every time you have to tell them that there's no breakthrough in the case. But two weeks later, a pretty startling development. A single piece of paper changes it all. It's a confession. You need a homicide victim's family for the first time. They don't know you from anybody in the world and you suddenly are handling the most important thing in their life the case involving death of their mother and their sister. The police at this point are just stymied.
Starting point is 00:19:58 It's been a month since the murders. There is no evidence, but then a development that most murder investigations never saved from the killer. And it's a postmarked from Chicago. The act of the killing was not enough. Essentially, the killer is reliving it in writing this letter. So that is highly unusual. You don't have a clue, do you? I met the pretty viage at the beach a few days before I killed her.
Starting point is 00:20:28 She had her mother with her. She told me she was getting married in September. but she wanted to have one last fling beforehand. It references Angel and her mother going to the beach. Now investigators cross-check her diary, where she actually talks about going to the beach with her mom. Me and mom decided not to waste a good day. And we're ready to be on the beach by 8 a.m. or so.
Starting point is 00:20:55 After that, I'll play the rest of the day slash night by ear. And the dates line up. There's also a description about going to a lawn. to the laundry and everything else, and all that was consistent with the habits of Angel and her mother. How would the writer know all of this unless they knew the women, unless they were actually there?
Starting point is 00:21:18 When it came to going all the way, she told me she was having second thoughts and couldn't do it. About 1230 or so, I got my knife and did the dirty deep. What a rush. I should have gagged her first because she screamed and woke up her mother. mother and that's mother MOTHA. The detectives think the use of that kind of slang
Starting point is 00:21:41 beauch and mother is kind of a clumsy way of trying to make them think the writer's black. Angel had previously dated white men, African American men, different types of employment, which is one thing that confused the issue. The writer clearly knows the victims. Don't bother checking for prints or DNA. DNA, I'm wearing a body suit and gloves. Clearly it showed a killer that was reveling in what he had done, really was unconcerned with talking about the act itself. And then lo and behold, a second letter is received. It's mailed from Gaylord, Michigan, which is a small community in the middle of Michigan. This one is so badly spelled, it's hard to read. Let me try.
Starting point is 00:22:28 detectives I write to you again I must confess I have done it for a second time Friday Street was just the beginning for me he's now saying that he's killed someone possibly in the Midwest it gave me such a rush I can't explain I will never forget me first the goyenas so now they're checking the Midwest for unexplained homicides a killer could be roaming from state to state he could easily have come through Norfolk Norfolk Virginia has one of the highest per capita murder rates in the United States. You have large ports, you have international airports. You're kind of the hub for 95 and 85 areas where people are traveling north and south a lot.
Starting point is 00:23:13 We have an extremely psychotic taunting killer who is taking pleasure in with the homicide, who is taunting the police, who writes in a vernacular words that are more commonly used by an African American or someone else's other. than somebody in the family. Both letters and envelopes were forensically checked. No DNA on either of them. Taunting the police is not a smart move. It tends to make them even more determined. The case is about to add another detective
Starting point is 00:23:44 and the most bizarre twist yet. The man comes into the station, says he knows who did it, hands them a ceremonial knife, and tells them he's a vampire. In Toronto, every arrival is a statement. and nothing says it better than this. Cadillac Optic was the number one selling luxury EV in Canada for 2025.
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Starting point is 00:25:15 meaning that there's no suspect fingerprints. We have no DNA at the scene. It's pretty clear investigators won't be able to rely on forensics to identify the killer. No physical evidence, no sign of forced entry. But that in itself gives them two important clues. First, his murders were likely planned. Second, it's probably someone Angel and Vonda know. A close friend? Maybe a romantic part.
Starting point is 00:25:43 We have this fiancé and they're set to get married in September. We aren't aware of any motive for him to want to do harm to his fiancee and furthermore he's out of the area. This is a dead end for them and at this point the rest of the family and the friends have been ruled out. Prosecutor Phil Evans needs a confidant, someone that he knows will get the job done. So he turns to a man that he's worked with many times. in the past.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Let's get Rick Malvin on this case. We'll work it together. Phil and I have worked a lot of cases together. I won't say it's like brothers, but it's pretty close. Rick was the best of the best. He was someone who could translate the crime scene, but he also understood what it really means to develop evidence for the courtroom.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I went to the house with Detective Malman. Detective Malben. We walked through it. You could still feel the murder in the house. I knew that this case was going to be difficult. But deep down, I felt that this was a solvable case. It may take time, but it was going to be a solvable case. They approached this from the standpoint of,
Starting point is 00:27:06 we're going to start at ground zero. We weren't at the crime scene. We're going to go back and go through everything so that we are comfortable, nothing was missed. Nobody is perfect when they commit a murder. I may overlook something, but there is no such thing as the perfect murder. At this point, Evans and Malbin are worried about something else. The killer made it pretty clear he's not only one step ahead of the cops,
Starting point is 00:27:33 but the murder spree isn't over. Anyone working that case should have taken that letter personally, and I did. And then a second letter came in. taunting. I must confess, I have done it a second time. I was gonna do everything I possibly could to find that person. The cops up here are a lot smarter than yous. It really puts an increased energy on Detective Malvin, and certainly I felt it.
Starting point is 00:28:01 We had a victim's family here who was just gutted. They lost their mother and sister. And we had a killer, apparently, who was traveling the country at the At the very least, if he wasn't killing other people, he was perversely enjoying having killed the Goyinas. You don't just look at suspects in a murder case. You also look at the victims. By 2008, Detective Malban and his partner are digging deeper into Angel's past, and they find
Starting point is 00:28:31 the ties to Wicca. Remember, Angel and her mom were interested and hung out at this Wiccan bookstore. A relationship with Wicca was more interest. I think that kind of trickled down to mom as well, because mom got interested in that. Wicca became popular in America back in the 50s. You know, you can think of lunar rituals and secular worship. It is not black magic in Satanism.
Starting point is 00:28:59 It's more defined as nature's religion, where Earth is a source of spiritual power. Angel had become associated with a group that loosely operated out of a bookstore called the Mystic Moon. Wicked rituals often involve a special set of mystical tools, commonly including a wand, a pentacle, a chalice, and a large knife called an athane, used only for symbolic purposes. To the police, that opened a Pandora's box of, well, who did she meet there? January 2nd, 2008, there's a call to the Norfolk Police Department.
Starting point is 00:29:42 There's a man that wants to talk to you on the Goina case. He considered himself a vampire. We met with him. We invited him down to the office. And he said he was part of that community where there were some people who were involved in vampirism. He also disturbingly implied. to the detectives that he may know something about Angel's murder.
Starting point is 00:30:15 He produced a knife that he said that was used by someone else to commit the murders. So now the detectives had a knife in their possession. The case is taking a pretty bizarre turn. More than six months after Angel and Vonda were stabbed to death, Detective Malvin is sitting across from a self-described vampire, someone who claims to draw pleasure from ingesting blood, and someone who turns over an athame knife, he says, is the murder weapon. The knife was submitted to the lab.
Starting point is 00:30:48 There was no DNA blood trace, and the knife could not have made the injuries on the bodies. And so once we talked to him and knew that he was not close to the family, I didn't have a problem eliminating him. It's another costly detour, squandering time and resources. So Evans and Malvin take a harder look at someone who seemed to have an airtight alibi. Angel's fiancé, David Hoshaw. He came to take his sons to a Boy Scout camp, and he had been away from his fiancé for a while. He certainly could have left Boy Scout camp.
Starting point is 00:31:30 He could get to the house without being noticed. We looked into David Hoshaw's background. The more we looked, the more disturbing. information came. He becomes stronger not by evidence of this crime but by information about his behavior in the past. We had a 74 year old woman killed, a 35 year old woman kill. Somebody needs to tell their story. That's it. The house looks so different. Everything's changed. Everything's new. That's a good thing. Rick Malbin is a veteran homicide detective with 15 years under his belt.
Starting point is 00:32:31 But this case is different. Malbin begins an investigation that will span two years, four states, and a couple thousand miles. I got here during the early morning hours. The initial investigators were here, I was when I arrived. Rick Malvin was one of our senior homicide detectives. He was definitely one of the go-to guys. He had a very good reputation. Detective Holman was just very focused and it was like the bulldog sense about him that he's going to get something done.
Starting point is 00:33:08 You know, he's going to do something. When I go to work a homicide, when I roll out, I pray. That's from my mother. I pray that I don't get tunnel vision and let me see through the lies. Fishing through all the lies, Detective Rick Malbon and his partner. they've been following dozens of leads. All of them are dead ends. The only real solid clue that they have at this point
Starting point is 00:33:37 are these two letters. But who wrote those letters? And was it truly the killer? I can't remember a case where the police department ever received legitimate letters like this in connection with a real homicide. Can you? No.
Starting point is 00:33:53 We explored the possibility of being a serial killer. Letters were taken to the FBI lab and they determined that it was. wasn't a serial killer. So that narrowed down, I searched, and David Halshaw looked more like a suspect to me. There's no reason to write a letter like that other than to try to throw the police off.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Obviously, whoever wrote it put Norfolk in strange handwriting that's not the same as the return address. Right. Part of trying to look at the way to look at everything is each person of interest, we want to know everything we can about them. My way of doing my job and Rick Malvin's way of doing this job is we're going to get every detail we know. We're talking about this guy, David Hoshaw.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Who is he? For Angel, David Hoshaw is the man she wants to grow old with. But in the months before they exchange wedding vows, it's clear she is having serious doubts. I haven't heard from David except before work this morning. He says he misses me and I hope he does because I miss him. Hoshaw has a job doing electrical work for Virginia Company with U.S. Navy contracts. Detectives learn he tells Angel he's been placed on a project in the Midwest. Most of the time he'll be living up there and commuting back to Norfolk.
Starting point is 00:35:19 But you gotta ask, is that really why he's gone? Angel's diary entries in the last weeks of her life, she was frustrated on one level because he didn't seem to be engaged and he didn't seem to be his normal demeanor towards her. It just makes you feel ignored when you get only less than five minutes on a call, when you need way more to feel loved and appreciated. He worked for a naval contractor. He was supposedly building a ship. But why are you building a ship in Wisconsin or Michigan?
Starting point is 00:35:52 How is it? It didn't make sense. You would think it would be built in Norfolk, not... the Midwest, Great Lakes. I've been filled with all sorts of doubts and worries, but I think the part of me is slowly learning to trust David and that he is not like the guys in my past that betrayed and hurt me.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I hope this means my capacity to love is increasing as well. There were definitely red flags that David possibly was cheating or hiding something from Angel, just when she couldn't get a hold of him. and he's not where he's supposed to be. When the forensic investigators were going through the house, one of the things that was of interest was a computer. We got the search warrant for the computer,
Starting point is 00:36:44 and once we got it to forensic, that's when we found out when he changed that password. The forensic analysis of the computer revealed that on June 24, 2007, David Howshaw as the administrator for the computer, changed the password to for Amanda. Amanda? If David's marrying Angel in two months, who is Amanda?
Starting point is 00:37:09 Amanda came into the picture when we realized David Hoshaw had changed the password on the computer. It's early 2007. Angel is buzzing, planning for this wedding. Turns out, David Hoshaw, he actually goes back to the dating website. and he ends up connecting with and starts to date another woman. So while he's traveling for business to stay up there to work,
Starting point is 00:37:44 he was actually cultivating another relationship in that area to Amanda, to another woman. All the while Angel is preparing for a wedding in September. Angel was very trusting, but when someone hasn't necessarily given you, initially a reason to doubt them. Why should you? That password unlocks more than a computer. It also opens an exhaustive search. Detectives start digging into everything David Hoshaw said he was doing before, during, and after the killings. Starting with his airtight alibi, was he really in Boy Scout camp the night of the murders? We knew he was roughly 80 miles away at 11 p.m. at night and he was there at 6 in the morning. That
Starting point is 00:38:32 is not physically impossible to drive to Norfolk two hours, commit a brutal homicide, and drive back, but it's unlikely behavior. Detective Malbin knows that the whole case is writing on the letters. Prove who sent them, and they have their killer. When you're looking at individuals capable of committing a homicide, David Hoshaw does not jump off the pages.
Starting point is 00:38:59 He doesn't look like he's gonna be a threat to anybody, but sometimes people that present that way actually the most dangerous. Turns out David Hoshal was more dangerous than anyone imagined. It's like a whole nightmare. I never thought I'm a million years I would be on. He came down the hall and grabbed my throat and started strangling me. I just felt something to smack across the back of my head and I just blacked out.
Starting point is 00:39:39 In the residence, I was slightly in shock of what I saw. Two people are no longer with us who should be, who were good people. What would possibly be a motive? Could the murder somehow be tied to Angel's interest in the occult? Remember, Angel and her mom were interested. Whoever did this must be some kind of monster. Extremely psychotic, taunting killer. We got two letters that we have a killer taking credit for the double homer.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I was hiding. I skip town pretty quick. I move around a lot, so good luck catching me. But if you ever confronted him about anything, the switch would just flip in his brain. I just felt something just smack across the back of my head, and I just blacked out. It was just like I was thrown in an alligator pit,
Starting point is 00:40:33 and I needed to fight my way out of it. I think truly there was something more sinister going on. going on. We do, June. We've had several homicides in the city of Norfolk, multiple deaths. This case was unusual in the sense that it was mother and daughter. Angel and Vanda Goyano were killed so brutally, right in their home. How could there be no evidence to go on?
Starting point is 00:41:08 There was no size of four century. There was no DNA or fingerprints. The police investigation of everyone, Angel, knew, including people from the Wickebook store, has led nowhere. And the self-proclaimed vampire who went to the police? It was a false lead. Angel was humble. She was kind. She was writing how excited she was to get married.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I was trying to get you kill him. I was going to do everything I possibly could to find that person. Where do they go from here? Angel's best friend thinks she knows. It was David. I just had a feeling. Remember, early in their investigation, police reached out to Angel's fiance, David Hoshaw. At the time, he seemed to have a credible alibi.
Starting point is 00:41:56 David talks to police and tells them he was about 80 miles away on a Boy Scout trip. But it was some of what David said during this interview that piqued their interest. What was interesting was he never asked them, why do you need to talk to me? If you got called by the homicide squad, your first question is, what is this about? He was talking to the detectives. He tells them, check my easy pass. Well, you can leave the easy pass at the Boy Scout camp. When a person is being interviewed in a murder investigation,
Starting point is 00:42:28 and they're providing you a lot of information, it means they're totally innocent, or they're somehow involved, and they've gone to a lot of trouble to make it look like they're totally innocent. David Hoshaw became like an onion in the case. The more you peeled him back, the more strange information came out.
Starting point is 00:42:45 A disturbing picture of Hoshaw's past begins to emerge. We knew that there were at least six women that David Hohshaw was involved in, and we investigated all six of them. David Hoshaw had been married three times prior to becoming engaged to Angel. I am Naomi Houshaw. I was David's first wife. We were 16, and we met at Bush Gardens when we worked there. It's all the fondness vendor of old
Starting point is 00:43:15 Europe, but a lot closer. At first, neither one of us liked each other. You know, I looked at him like, oh, he's too preppy, and his uniform's on too perfect, you know. I gave him a little bit of attention, and he gave it back a million fold. I felt special. Of course, when he asked me to marry him,
Starting point is 00:43:34 I definitely said yes, because that's what I wanted. He then joined the United States Air Force and was transferred out to Spokane-Washington area. And the good times were good, but what I remember are more of the bad times. He would be very lovey-dovey when he wanted to be, but if you ever confronted him about anything, which would just flip in his brain. I found out I was pregnant, and he was like, no, you're not pregnant, you're not pregnant. And I was.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I was on bed rest at the very end, and I got up because I was pregnant. I wanted something to drink. He came down the hall and grabbed my throat. And started strangling me. And my oldest son, he was just screaming and screaming and screaming. He just wouldn't stop. Finally, David let go. And I went and picked up my oldest son and calmed him down.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I was terrified. And I didn't know what was going to happen next. And then there were some letters that I found. To my one true love. During his first marriage, David also started to groom and unlawfully touch a 12-year-old friend of the family. I went in there in hopes to be alone with you. Your mom would not have known. I didn't know what was going on. I was naive. You're in your 20s, and this person is still in elementary school. Love forever, David.
Starting point is 00:45:17 You knew she was 12. That's the part that I could never wrap my head around. Naomi had complained to the United States Air Force about domestic abuse. The 12-year-old girl and her parents cooperated with the United States Air Force. He pled guilty to both indecent acts and assault on the 12-year-old. The United States Air Force chose not to criminally prosecute him in a court-martial, which could have sent him to prison. and administratively discharged him from the Air Force
Starting point is 00:45:53 with an other than honorable discharge. I filed for the divorce, and he never fought me. After his discharge from the military, David follows his ex-wife Naomi back to Virginia to stay close to his kids, where he begins online dating. One of the women that we talked to indicated he said all the right things,
Starting point is 00:46:17 and he wound and dined him. After Naomi, he got involved with his eventual second wife, who he was married to for a short time. And then there was me. My name is Alison Ashcroft. I am David's third wife. I met David in 2001 through an online dating website. He showered a lot of attention on me,
Starting point is 00:46:42 and that was not something that I was used to. At that time, I was severely overweight. And so that there was this person who found me attractive despite that was just mind-blowing to me. And I thought, you know, I might want to hang on to this one. We were concerned what we learned from Naomi and the domestic assault. We were trying to see if there's a continuity of violence with Hoshaw. I had an injury at David's hands. I was having migraines and dizziness.
Starting point is 00:47:14 David had asked if there was anything he could do to help. and we had a massage roller. So he started rolling this thing back and forth across my neck. He started moving a little faster, and he was lifting the roller up off my neck. And then eventually I just felt something to smack across the back of my head. And I just blacked out.
Starting point is 00:47:38 When I came to, he was standing on the side of the bed, looking down at me, saying, do you think we need to go to the hospital? Hoshaw came up with some story that did not include any acknowledgement. He had something to do with it. I don't think anything was really said other than he may have said he was sorry and that the roller just slipped out of his hands. Now I realized, you know, I was young and naive then that I think truly there was something
Starting point is 00:48:07 more sinister going on. It left that nagging seat of doubt in her mind. In 2005, he said, this marriage isn't working out. I can't do this anymore. I'll pack my stuff up in the morning and I'll be gone and we can get a divorce. I think if I had tried to work things out with him, if I had stayed, I might not be sitting here right now. As detectives dig into all of David Hoshaw's past relationships, they learn that his trail of lies and deceptions only continues to grow. And very soon he would move on to a relationship with Angel.
Starting point is 00:48:50 And that's when he got ugly. The authorities have learned about David Hoshaw's disturbing past. The question becomes, what exactly happened between David and Angel? When Angelique Goyena meets her true love online, there's a lot he isn't telling her. Like, he's been married three times. I have a huge heart of gold that I want to share with my partner. What he projected was all the type of things Angelique Gawina would want to hear or see in a dating profile. I was happy that my sister found someone, but when I met him, I didn't really care for him.
Starting point is 00:49:35 There was something about him. I didn't like, you know, this force and energy. It wasn't good, but Angelique liked himself. I wouldn't like him, too. Within a few months, David Hossaw is moving in with Angel and Vonda. One of them we found out out. We were up and on. about that. And he's a bum. He's going to live in my mom's house with nothing. No, we didn't like that. But my mom wanted her to stay. Angel was hoping that they would live there with her mom and continue to take care of her. Angel's diary entries, they start to change. It's not all hearts and flowers anymore. Why is he so secretive about his money? I know marriage is a matter of trust, but David is weird with money.
Starting point is 00:50:22 There was concern that David was not the person he originally appeared to be. Angelique would tell me out of the clear blue that he'd have a look on his face like he was disgusted with her, and that would really bother her. David was wanting her to put Vonda in a managed care facility, an angel was vehemently against that. He's been grumpy and moody. Tonight he was even arguing with mom. Well, I stood up for her, of course.
Starting point is 00:50:52 But it put me in a strange place between mom who I love and David who I love. David didn't seem to have jumped in done getting the wedding preparations together. He did nothing. He proposed, and that was it. She's bugging Hoshaw. Who do you want to invite? And he kept saying, yeah, yeah, I'll get them to you. And David Hoshaw is going back and forth to Michigan.
Starting point is 00:51:18 He wasn't around. And I thought that's strange for somebody who wanted to get buried. David said in a condescending tone of voice, don't question me where I am. Doesn't seem like he was feeling warm fuzzies for me, now does it? Angelique called me, and she was really upset and said that she'd had a bad dream, that she dreamed he was kissing someone else.
Starting point is 00:51:48 And I tried to console her. You're getting cold feet or something like that. Now I kind of looking back at him, like, Oh my gosh. In spite of all the red flags, even the day before she is killed, Angel is still looking forward to the wedding. Friday, 77 days and counting. After work today, as I always do, I check my voicemail and guess who finally called, David. He'll be home sometime tomorrow, and for that I am very glad.
Starting point is 00:52:18 That is written just hours before she dies. Initially, the family is going to the house and they're going through personal belongings. We gathered and tried to find out what would possibly be a motive. There were forensic investigators still working on the house, trying to make sure they didn't miss some forensic evidence. There was nothing, nothing pointing to anybody. We didn't think it was going to be solved. A couple times, Hoshaw showed up there, which they thought was strange.
Starting point is 00:52:50 He was allowed access to the house. He should not have been allowed in the house. I think he got to guide anything he wanted, you know, that could destroy the case. And maybe he did. I just noticed, why isn't he grieving? He didn't even appear to be shocked. At the viewing, at the funeral home,
Starting point is 00:53:09 entire family shows up. Who doesn't show up? David Hoshaw. Angel's sisters and her brother are like, there's something up with David Hoshaw. Not only is David Hoshaw a no show at his fiance's He makes another stunning move. He packs up, leaves Norfolk, and moves to Michigan to be with a new girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Remember, as police were investigating Hoshaw, they discovered that shortly before the murder, he changed his computer password to For Amanda. Marking? Tell me your first name and how you are connected to this case. Amanda, and I was engaged to David Hoshaw. At Amanda's request, we are not using her last name and have altered her appearance. He told me that his ex, Angelique, was murdered.
Starting point is 00:54:02 He was distraught. He was confused. He went to the police department and they're questioning him. And I asked him, I said, did you do it? And he said, no. He said he was cleared. So I believed him. When I found out that he had another woman, I went,
Starting point is 00:54:20 oh my gosh, Angelique's dream. It's like she was right. I set up a meeting with the victim's family and they were adamant that they knew it was David Hoshaw. We all thought it was him. We had to get him charged for fear that he would do something else. I'm Harvey Gien and this is Killer Stories. Every Monday I'm cutting the lights. Except these stories are all real.
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Starting point is 00:55:36 This is the type of thing that gets you set home. The world is watching. Project Runway, new episodes, Fridays. Stream on Hulu and Disney Plus. David Hoshaw is now living with his girlfriend, Amanda. And while police consider him a prime suspect, there's no physical evidence linking him to the murders. The detectives in this case may feel like David Hoshaw is the killer,
Starting point is 00:56:01 but they can't yet prove it. And hunches don't count in a courtroom. We have circumstances. We have behavior that is strange. but we have to demonstrate there is no other person that could have committed the homicide. Well, we looked at everything that David Horshaw did before the homicide and after the homicide. We got two letters that we have a killer taking credit for the double homicide. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:35 But we needed evidence that showed that Hoshaw was the only person that could have mailed the letters. This is the envelope of the first letter that was mailed on the letter. that was mailed on July 23rd from Cardis Collins processing station in Chicago. But you were able to nail it down to one specific distribution center that would have applied that postmark. We had to try to find something that would put him around Chicago. So we had to try to rebuild David Hoshaw's activities. If they can connect the dots of cell phone records and credit card receipts, and credit card receipts, they can use the paper trail that Hoshaw left and trap them.
Starting point is 00:57:21 We started following the cell phone records of David Hoshaw. There was a cell call that bounced off the tower within a few miles of where this letter would have had to have been mailed. That was really key. We were able to put him between 2.1 and 12.6 miles from that post office. So, evidence places David in Chicago near the post office. office on the same day the first letter was mailed. Can they connect them to the second letter?
Starting point is 00:57:51 But this one was mailed nowhere near Chicago. August 15th, that letter is dropped in the mailbox in Gaylord, Michigan, which is a small community in the middle of Michigan, middle of nowhere. David Hoshaw's credit card purchases opened a window because his purchase history was literally a roadmap. We knew that David Hoshaw took his... his new girlfriend Amanda on a little celebratory road trip. How about that? Why did you take that trip?
Starting point is 00:58:27 We went on a trip because I had a doctor's appointment and we started off in our town and we stocked at all these little different places. There were hotels. There was the zoo. IHop, movie theaters. We followed all of it. Yeah, he's showing Amanda the good time. good time, you know. He's trying to impress her. August 13th and 14th, he was consistently making purchases moving southward on the interstate to the point where he would go through Gaylord on August 15th. Then a few hour time frame, he made purchases north of Gaylord and then south of Gaylord. There's a single highway running through it. What are the odds that's going to be
Starting point is 00:59:14 somebody else who mailed that letter? So never saw him stepping away to go to the post. office or mail anything. No. And nothing unusual. I mean, I'm usually the one that's gone, you know, stepping out somewhere. Now they've got a string of receipts and cell phone records that all connect David to the letters. The problem with that is that doesn't go into court and prove anything. Could the answer be witnesses?
Starting point is 00:59:41 But it is always a lot more powerful when you have an eyewitness. That carries a lot more weight in front of a jury. So Detective Malvin and his partner go on a road trip. partner going a road trip, talking to store owners and vendors and trying to get them to come into court. We ended up with 23 to 25 different people subpoenaed in this case. They present their case to the grand jury and get an indictment and an arrest warrant for David Hoshaw. David Hoshaw had set up a separate life. He was moving on. We knew Amanda had now changed your life to live with David Hoshaw and take him into her home. David and Amanda have a child and Amanda's due with their second.
Starting point is 01:00:26 But things seem to be headed downhill. David's changed. He was acting weird. I'd find him in random places. I'm like, what are you doing? Why are you sitting here? He never had an answer. We wanted David Hoshan not to be prepared for what was happening,
Starting point is 01:00:46 and we wanted to create an impact upon Amanda. So 2009, you're pregnant with your second child, and you hear a knock on the door. I didn't get no knock on the door. So tell me about what happened. It was 4 a.m. And they rush in. One officer pushes me to the side.
Starting point is 01:01:11 I'm asking what's going on. So they're running in and just grabbing David and... Yeah, they threw him on the ground. I have a baby in the other room. I'm just asking what's going on. Well, he's under arrest. David Halshaw stepped out. He was handcuffed and then escorted out of the house.
Starting point is 01:01:28 out of the house. And he finally told me that he murdered two people, his ex. But really, to find out he was his fiance, it wasn't his ex fiance, it was just his fiance. What did you say? I was stunned because I thought he was cleared. He was transported to state police barracks. That was the first chance that Detective Malvin had to talk to, David Hoshaw.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Does you correct? Yes, I have. I didn't even get time to even process anything. I just, it's like I was thrown in an alligator pit and I needed to fight my way out of it. Amanda has no idea that she's about to break the case. I didn't have a confession from David Hoshaw. I had all this other evidence.
Starting point is 01:02:34 The only way he could say something is if tactically and psychologically we got under his skin. You understand in any statement you made, maybe he was an evidence, because you could have a quarter of a month. Where is there no secretation? Yes. We're here to talk to you about the death
Starting point is 01:02:49 and the answer to the head and the lead to the problem. When we walked into that interview room, I expected to get a confession. I was so pumped. Do you recall mail over a letter? Some novel place of the park? No, I don't. Let me tell me.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Let me say that left. That's an employer. And the person that mailed that letter, took credit for the deaths of Anjali and prompted. Okay. I think he was unnerved, but trying not to show it. And he's sort of like processing the situation, talking in a normal turn on the voice.
Starting point is 01:03:36 You will be in 2.1 mile of the post office that processed that left. Okay. You think is that a good incident? But like I said, I don't remember being in there on July 23rd. Okay. But that would be one hell of a coincidence. One hell of a coincidence, right?
Starting point is 01:03:55 I wanted David to know that we knew almost better than him what he had done after the homicide. Let me give you a little history on your trip. You stayed at the company in, room 333. You had an eye hot, you had a potato pancake breakfast, a funnel cake meal. There is a psychological, tactical game that goes on the room. And it's hard. I know. It's hard talking about his first time, but I guarantee you once you get it off your chest, you're gonna feel a lot better I know your heart is burden right now, man.
Starting point is 01:04:33 It got to a point where I told him that he wasn't going home that he was going to coming back to Norfolk to stay in trial for killing Angelique and Vonda and then he broke my heart I need to speak to honor turn. I need to speak to my turn. Okay. He said, I need to talk to an attorney. He knocked me down. I didn't get anything from him. He lawyed up.
Starting point is 01:05:00 And I knew he wanted to talk to Amanda, and Amanda had asked to talk to him. I asked if I could speak with David and find out what's going on. They told me we'll get him ready. So I waited. I want to let Amanda, see whenever she wants to say, Torn. You want to see it? Yes. It was one of those things where sometimes, like, it's the drop of water in a still pool,
Starting point is 01:05:28 you allow the drop to fall and then it will take its own course. Please be honest. I love you. I've heard me with all my heart. Did you hurt these people? We have kids, honey. I know we do. I've asked for an attorney.
Starting point is 01:06:08 I don't want to say anything else in problem. But please, I'm sorry. So what did detectives say? you about talking to David during the interrogation? That I would have a private conversation in a room, and I could talk to him, and it would be just me and him. We need you, that's just... Detective Malbin advised David Hoshaw as legal rights.
Starting point is 01:06:35 This was in an interview room in which there was a camera that was discreetly placed. So did you know it was going to be recorded? No. I never knew that. Maybe I just, I need, you know, I'm just not the smartest cooking in the bunk. but I thought it was in the private room. He had a right to remain solid.
Starting point is 01:06:53 He didn't have to talk to him, Amanda, especially about the case. He didn't have to answer her. I got creed. I'm so sorry. Looking at you on the interrogation tape, it's almost as if you seem like you're in physical pain. I was sick to know that my baby's daddy did this. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 01:07:24 It was distraught. I thought maybe... Maybe I was having a nightmare. I don't know if I did have you to do it. I didn't, I didn't go down there with that in my mind. I went down there to try and break up and things got me. I was so confused. It doesn't make sense to me.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Why were you there at that time? If you were going to break up with her, why didn't you do it during the day? Amanda started going off. She picked up the letter. Did they have this letter? That was stupid. I was trying to get him off my dad. He eventually told her he mailed a letter to get us off of the tail.
Starting point is 01:08:19 So at that point I knew I had the right person. He took ownership of being the writer of the letters in this exchange with Amanda. And he said that, yeah, I mailed them to get them off my tracks. I never understood how he had time. how he had time to write these letters. So he must have wrote him before and had him ready to go. If he had never mailed the letters, there's a very good chance the evidence would never have developed
Starting point is 01:08:48 to charge him. Did you admit to me? No. I didn't do. He said enough to Amanda to strengthen my case. I couldn't wait to come out and call Phil. call Phil. It was a great feeling.
Starting point is 01:09:11 He acknowledged that he went to the house to break up with her, but then things got out of hand. He admits to her sending the letters. A confession really is a mission of certain facts. Why can she just walk with me? That's what I tried to do. I was pregnant at the time, and I just found out that my man is guilty of killing two, not one, but two people. I'm sorry to hurt you, it's right. I heard me the most is the pain I'm causing you and our pain. All I could think of is why I wanted to get up and slap him,
Starting point is 01:09:58 his smirky face, but I didn't, because it wasn't worth it. That's you ready? I don't want to see it again. I love you. I love him. He lies. All he does is lie. I feel there's more truth to the story,
Starting point is 01:10:32 and I figure the only way I could get the truth is through the courts. The man accused of killing a Norfolk woman and her mother now faces a capital murder charge. In Norfolk yesterday, a grand jury indicted David Wayne Hosham. The problem with the case is the first thing a defense attorney is going to do and stand up in court and say, you do not have one piece of evidence. have one piece of evidence that demonstrates my client committed the crime. Across the globe are about to join me for the audition of a lifetime. ABC Monday.
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Starting point is 01:12:03 Two people are no longer with us who should be. His past is horrific. He prays on those that are. insecure and maybe people he perceives as being weak. He was a predator. David Hoshaw in jail is waiting for his murder trial to start. The prosecution seems to feel pretty good about this. They have a very unsympathetic guy to put in front of this jury.
Starting point is 01:12:31 It was clear he went to great ends to try to cover his tracks. And we knew that his taunting in the letters, the boasting would not play well to a jury. But District Attorney Evans has a problem. The sort of evidence he's going to give to those 12 people. Nobody said he did it. Nobody said he confessed to me, he did it, nobody forensically said it was his thumbprint, it was his DNA. To be blunt, what we did was we built up a case of circumstantial evidence, layering one piece of evidence information on top of another.
Starting point is 01:13:04 This is not where a prosecutor wants to be. Juries like to have that smoking gun, that forensic proof, but that's not the hand that he's been dealt. At the same time, the defense is doing their job, trying to exclude evidence the prosecutor does have, like Angel's diary entries. David said in a condescending tone of voice, don't question me where I am. They want to throw out the interrogation video. I agree. But it doesn't work. The judge admits it all. The diary, the interrogation, the jury's going to see all of it.
Starting point is 01:13:39 The case was set to be tried for a month. We had about 140 witnesses subpoenaed. We were ready to go. We literally had travel arrangements for, I think, half of the vendors in Michigan. Shop owners, clerks at hotels. I don't think anybody could have got food up and down the interstate in the middle of Michigan because they were all coming to Norfolk Virginia for trial. We produced a mannequin and we asked the medical examiner to use knitting needles.
Starting point is 01:14:19 And we intended to use this at trial to demonstrate all of the wounds. It not only shows just the incredible sheer number of stab wounds in this area, but it does clearly show that Angel sustained defense of wounds. A demonstration like that is so effective with the jury. It shows the level of violence of what they call overkill. The family has waited three years to hear David Hoshal on the stand, to see all the proof. a lot of emotion.
Starting point is 01:14:57 You, you want that justice. The death penalty is on the table. And facing all of that, Hoshaw surprises them all. David Hoshaw pleaded guilty to capital murder and first degree murder. He was originally scheduled for a jury trial next week. A guilty plea. No trial. And suddenly, it's over.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Detective Rick Malbon is excited. He finally got his guy. He pled guilty. He's getting ready to call Amanda and deliver what he thinks is great news. But he was not expecting this reaction. I was shocked. I couldn't even handle it. I said things to Rick that maybe I shouldn't have said, but he deserved to go to trial.
Starting point is 01:15:42 He deserved to have the whole laundry, all the truth out, to set her family free, to give her, that family the truth about everything. accepting a plea agreement for two life sentences first-degree murder David had to stand before the goyennas the victims loved ones and he had to admit to killing angel and vanda he made a very long very bizarre statement he then went on to lecture every participant in the court process i want to see shame on you detective moulbin for his actions the lord god almighty does not like to be full of pride of themselves. I pray that you lose that pride before it's too late.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Every word that came out of David's mouth in court just made me angry just to see him, to see words coming from his mouth. Today, for the sake of my family, I'm pleading guilty to this horrific crime. I'm putting their needs and their desires ahead of my own. He said he pleaded guilty for his family. No.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Do you think that was for you and your children? No. I think he lied. He didn't take this deal for his family because he knew I wanted him to go to trial. He murdered him. He doesn't be alive. I'm sorry. Might be harsh.
Starting point is 01:17:10 What's the truth? Two life sentences, I think it's what he got. He is ineligible for parole. He's gonna rock there in jail. Would you forgive somebody to kill him? forgive somebody that killed your mom and sister? I won't. The family's most basic question is never answered in court,
Starting point is 01:17:31 and that is, why did he do it? So this is really the first time you're talking about Vonda and Angelique. Well, I don't know I'm talking about it. And he does talk about it in a prison interview. After all these years, I still think about her. I have a tattoo of two butterflies. It's just a reminder.
Starting point is 01:17:59 It's always there. It's something I can see every day and know that she's there, even if she's not. Remember, to avoid the death penalty, David Hoshaw had to admit that he killed Vonda an angel. But he didn't have to say why. And he hasn't. Until now.
Starting point is 01:18:22 David Hoshaw agreed to interview with me over the phone, since he is in a high-security prison facility. David tells me that night, he went to Angel's house to simply break up with her at one in the morning. How were you thinking the night would have played out? David claims that when he told Angel it was over, there were tears and raised voices.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Her emotions got my emotion going, and then, of course, anger, and it just got escalated from there. Yeah, it was like, an impulse and when I started it just kept going. I just couldn't stop. You have one minute remaining. And his second victim?
Starting point is 01:19:20 He says Vonda tried to stop him. I know that what has happened. And so I've chosen to kind of not think about it. I mean, I thought, wow, you know, I was got so lucky. He made himself out to be a guy that was a terrific man. He was a Boy Scout engineer. I mean, he takes care of his sons. I mean, he's there for them when they need it.
Starting point is 01:19:51 In a way, David Hoshaw left two kinds of victims, the ones he killed and the ones he left behind. There are a lot of times when I think it should have been me. It should have been me, and it wasn't. Why? That monster. I was married to that monster. The ripple effect of grief that families experience and loved ones experience in cases like this, it goes through generations. He lied and he, you know, about him being in a relationship with Angelique. So he like got me into the circle and he got rid of her, murdered her because basically of me.
Starting point is 01:20:37 I'm feeling horrible for them. I hate, you know, I'm not hating him. It's like a lot of hate. So what do you do with it? The coroner noted something in their report. The only thing Angel Goyena was wearing when she died was a medallion. I have dreamed of a knight in shining armor. Don't laugh, but I've kept a medallion of gold and silver of a knight upon a steed for the day I meet him.
Starting point is 01:21:11 I had an old mentor who told me, you can always see the soul of your victim reflected in the eyes of those who love them. And on the 4th of July, it's kind of hard day to remember, you know, because that's the weekend. This all happened. Her brother remembers a moment long after the murders when he went by the house. It's going to laugh at me, but I saw my sister, my mom and my sister standing at looking at me. And they were there and they were smiling and I looked back and they were gone. But I know, I saw them. I remember that.
Starting point is 01:21:49 I think I am at peace. I know I am at peace. It's taken me years to get to this place. I just think of them very fondly. My mom's incredible sense of humor. And Angel just, gosh. Angelique was a gift to our family. What are you left with when someone dies?
Starting point is 01:22:17 Photographs, memories. For the Goyanas, angels and poems. The night with its endless realm of possibilities, what could last forever? Stars, scattered diamonds of the night. The stars watch and somewhat guide. choices and outcomes. But in the end, the stars watch us. That's my girl. That's my girl. When a charming neurosurgeon rode into western towns selling a persona of confidence and care,
Starting point is 01:22:58 patients trusted him. He wore cowboy boots in the operating room and became sought after by patients. He promised to heal them. Instead, he left a trail of broken bodies. This is a story of greed, betrayal and a fight for justice. Listen to Dr. Death, The Cowboy, wherever you get your podcasts, or binge the entire series right now only with Audible.

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