20/20 - The After Show: First Comes Love, Then Comes Murder

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

ABC News' Stephanie Ramos shares insights on a Maryland case that was unsolved for more than two decades. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now, many of us read about this story a few months ago, and it was quite the mystery. Police would find her body on the second floor of her home in the shower. And this was a case that just went unsolved for 23 years until recently. And there were so many questions around this case. Well, of course, we had to dive in. We focus on this story in 2020's episode called First Comes Love, Then Comes Murder. And, of course, you can listen to it right here on your podcast feed. or watch on Hulu and Disney Plus.

The correspondent in that story is Stephanie Ramos. Hello, Stephanie. Hello. And I thought I was the Energizer, Bunny. Oh, my gosh, you are on World News Tonight. You're on ABC News Live, on Prime, you're on Nightline. And now you're on 2020. You're actually making your debut appearance reporting a story for us.

What was that like for you switching gears? Because doing these shorter stories is so different from an in-depth two-hour investigation. Oh, absolutely. And as a national correspondent here at ABC News, I mean, a lot of the work that I do is Day of News coverage. So this is actually something that I had wanted to do for quite some time, be part of a project, a long-term project where you can really get into the details and sit down for these interviews and spend some time with the individuals that are really sharing their life story. So it was great to be a part of this team and they brilliantly put together. all of the pieces. And it took several months, but we were able to tell this story of what happened

to Leslie Prier and speak to friends and family and just really get into it. Well, to call your team brilliant, I got to tell you, you're already scoring some points here in 2020 because, you know, they do. They do a great job. Well, let's jump into this because, Stephanie, this story I remember reading about in a couple of magazines and I thought, wow, that's very strange. Leslie Pree. found murdered in the shower in her home. The shower is still going. And, you know, it was just such a bizarre mystery. There were a little clues here and there. But what was your first take on the story? Because oftentimes the producers come to us with these stories. Tell us a few details. We decide, yes, I want to do it or I have time to do it. What was your first take when you heard

about this story down in Maryland? I found it fascinating that after so many years, more than two decades, these two detectives, moms, just hard-charging women, were able to put the pieces together. Of course, there are a lot more technological advances now in 2025 and in the last couple of years compared to in 2001 when this murder took place. But just fascinated that there was justice at the end of this. Even though it was an unsolved case, a cold case for so long, Lauren Prier, who we spent a long amount of time with, her life was just turned upside down, the daughter of Leslie Pryor, just to see it all come together because these two women were assigned this case and they said, we're going to help this family. We're going to find out who did this. we're going to solve it. You know, I've done stories before with a pair of female detectives, and it's always interesting sometimes the women's intuition might be a little bit different

from some of their male detectives in the same department. And sometimes there's something there that they just can think of and see that others don't. Let's talk about Lauren Pryor. She was about 23 years old when this first happened. Obviously, her world was turned upside down, shattered, very close to her mom. Investigators, as they often do, began looking at her father, Sandy, Prere, they started looking suspiciously at him, but she was not having it. She defended both of her parents vigorously, didn't she? Oh, absolutely. I mean, she told us that it crossed her mind that perhaps her father may have had something to do with it,

but she did not think about that for long. She said her parents loved one another. And after giving it further thought, she said, there's absolutely no way that her father could have hurt her mother. And like you said, she mentioned and officers mentioned that Sandy himself, he said that there were some marital issues and that Leslie had a problem with drinking and that also that that kind of became a point of frustration for him. But Lauren was confident that her dad would never do this to her mom. She was confident that that he couldn't, even after about a year or so, when police sat down with Lauren and said, this is what we think happened. We think Sandy did this to your mother, here's why, here's how, and we need to get it out of him. And she can see her in that interrogation room, just shaking her head.

She's like, I just can't, I can't, she can't, she couldn't fathom it. And she was right all along. Well, because also, too, the way, I mean, she was so brutally murdered. It was really kind of a brutal scene there. And for her to think that her father could have possibly done that, I can only imagine. Well, you spoke with her in your interview was so moving. And we have a clip, actually, of her talking about the moment that she learned of her mom's death. Let's take a listen.

I looked out the window, and I saw a police car pull up. And I saw my dad and a police officer get out of the car. And I said, oh, God, what the hell's happening? My dad is like, he was just talking, but everything was in slow motion. He's like, Lauren, your mom has been in an accident. I think I was seeing like a bus accident or she got on a car like you know I wasn't thinking the work of that and then he goes um she's no longer with this anymore I was like what and so I ran into my bedroom and he screamed like scream screamed

like the horror movies I get deep down into your stomach scream and I said um understand. And we should point out, too, that she lived just a few miles from her parents. I mean, she's in her 20s. I mean, she's recalling this. You can still hear the pain in her voice. How is she doing all these years later? This really changed her life trajectory.

I mean, you can hear in her interview and even spending several hours with her, you can tell that the emotion is still very raw, that her mother was her best friend. And, I mean, you can imagine as a young woman, she's the only child. She didn't have any, she doesn't have any siblings. This changed her and it traumatized her. And the weight of not only the loss of her mom, but also not knowing who did this to her mom. Her dad had been out shopping for a battery or something and police thought it was a little strange, his whereabouts. Tell us a little bit about that.

Right. So the night before Leslie's murder, police say that Sandy had been out. And Sandy himself was reported saying that he went out the night before to buy something for a camera. He had been out for several hours. He went from store to store. And officers weren't really buying that. It seemed as though he was giving them some sort of an alibi of some sort that just didn't make sense. So officers at this point, when they're meeting with Lauren, they're under the impression that Sandy possibly found Leslie the night before she was killed with someone else.

murdered her that night, and then police found her the next morning. But we know now that's not the case. That's not what happened. Yeah. Yeah. So that was really kind of the theory they were operating on. So this was years ago. And then you fast forward a few years later, as you said, and two detectives pick up this case. And when we come back, we're going to talk about the evidence that led them to Leslie's killer. So don't go anywhere. This show is supported by Odu. Imagine you're a business. owner who has to rely on a dozen different software programs to run your company, none of which are connected. And each one is more expensive and more complicated than the last. It can be

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made simple welcome to only murders in the building the official podcast join me michael cyro creton as we go behind the scenes with some of the amazing actors writers and crew from season five the audience should never stop suspecting anything how can you not be funny crawling around on a coffin no that's true catch only murders in the building official podcast now streaming wherever you get your podcasts and watch only murders in the building streaming on hulu and hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers, terms apply. Welcome back to 2020 The After Show, and I'm here with my colleague, Stephanie Ramos, who reported on the case of Leslie Prier, a woman, a Maryland woman who was found dead in her shower

and a case that went unsolved for years. Stephanie, this happened in 2001. The case goes cold. And then in 2022, two new detectives are assigned to the case. Montgomery County Police Department detectives, Tara Augustine and Alice Alison Dupoy, and things start to advance in the investigation. You talked to both of these detectives and, you know, what I thought was so fascinating. You know, these are women who are very tough and fierce. They're both moms, but they had some instincts that were a little bit different that allowed them to go in some different directions.

Right. They had also worked with genetic genealogy in the past. They had taken some courses here and there. They were patrol officers. They moved through the ranks. We're now detectives. They joined the Montgomery County Department, and they're assigned to the cold case unit. They're assigned this particular case, the Leslie Prier case, and as they're looking

through it, they realize we have the tools where we can figure out who did this. At the time, at the crime scene, DNA was found underneath Leslie Prier's fingernails that had been sent to a private lab. So they were able to... And it was unknown DNA. It certainly was not her husband, and it certainly caused a little bit more of a mystery around this case. Exactly. This is why they were never able to charge Sandy Prier with the murder. That DNA, that unknown DNA didn't match his. They had nothing on him. So these two detectives, they called Lauren Prier and said, we're not making any promises, but we can promise you that we will try to find out who did this. We're going to work on this. We're going to open this up again. And that's where the plot began to

thicken. What is so fascinating in so many of our stories is DNA and where we've come now technologically and how they are able to pinpoint. Now, we're talking 20 plus years and they are able to find this DNA and track it to a family in Romania? Right. Things are so much more advanced now than in 2001. There were no ring cameras back then.

There were really no cell phones. It was maybe a few people had cell phones, but it wasn't a common thing. But what they did have from the crime scene was unknown DNA. So what they used in 2022 was genetic genealogy to find, the name Kaligor, to find this distant relative, which happened to be in Romania.

And that's where the mystery really just began to deepen. And then there's this kind of a sting operation and they get some of his DNA from a water bottle. This thing actually takes them on speed big time. And it's just so shocking because who would have guessed an ex-boyfriend of Leslie's daughter could be connected to this case? And then he, apparently, when they start talking to him, He seems a little, he's sort of crying. He seems a little confused, but they don't buy the emotion there. Not at all. And in the interrogation room, you can see these two detectives,

Detective Augustine and Detective DuPoy, and they are just talking to him straight. Let's listen to a clip. So I don't know, and I don't feel like I can, I don't know how to answer it going to. I don't want to incriminate myself with questions. You guys are professionals. I'm not. I don't know. I really do think I need an attorney. Okay. That's fine. We're not going to ask you any more questions. There's no tears coming out of your face.

I'm very dry right now. You're dry? I'm very dry. I'm harsh. I'm dehydrated. You can probably see my eyes are bloodshot red because I'm just tired and trained. I know what's going on. You want me to drink water so I could tear? I don't want you to tear. I just don't want you to say. So they were talking to him, and he is telling police that he's dry.

They don't really buy his story, and they think something is up during that interrogation. Right. He's saying things like, I don't want to incriminate myself. I don't recall. Then he says, I'm dry because he's not shedding any tears. After some time where the detectives are saying, but you're not saying you didn't, you're not saying you didn't. it. Then he starts to say, I didn't do it. I didn't do this. But it took some time, which is odd. And that was a red flag for them. Of course, Gligor is eventually charged. And then he would later

claim in court that his violent actions toward Leslie were due to drugs and alcohol. What exactly did they uncover about his past? This was Lauren's ex-boyfriend. And from what she told us is that he was welcomed into the Breer family. He would come over for family dinner. he would go on vacation with them when when Lauren and Eugene were dating and he even in court Eugene talked about how kind Leslie Prier was to him so in court when we finally did hear from Eugene Gleegor he he said he didn't remember that morning he says it's an absolute blur because he had been drinking the night before he had been using drugs the night before possibly that morning as well and doesn't remember anything. Now, police, they believe that he went into the home

because he was familiar with the home with the intent to steal. And he was surprised to find Leslie. Surprised to find Leslie. Shocked. Leslie recognizes him. He's now caught in the act. What does he do? If he was indeed under the influence, that's where that came from, that rage came from. Well, Glegoor was eventually convicted in this murder, and he was sentenced to 22 years in jail. We're going to take one more break, and when we come back, we want to talk about the family. Stay with us. TD Bank knows that running a small business is a journey, from startup to growing and managing your business. That's why they have a dedicated small business advice hub on their website to provide tips and insights on business banking to entrepreneurship.

No matter the stage of business you're in, visit TD.com slash small business advice to find out more or to match with a TD small business banking account manager. Welcome back to 2020, the after show. Stephanie, let's talk about the impact on this family because at the core of these stories when we're telling them, we're always talking about families. These are lives that are ruptured. And this particular family certainly was, as you mentioned earlier, Sandy Prier, the husband here, was considered a suspect for a while, even though they didn't charge him. There was a cloud of suspicion over him. He died in 2017, and there was still questions. Many still wondered whether he had anything to do with the death of his wife. Over the years, this had a huge impact on him, and as well as his daughter. Oh, absolutely. And one thing that Lauren shared with me was that even though she has some sort of justice, now knowing who did this to her mother. She's still, I mean, obviously sad because she doesn't

have her mother with her, but is upset that her father wasn't able to see this day. He passed away in 2017. And for that entire time, there was this cloud of suspicion over him. So this is how he lived his life. This is how Lauren lived her life where there were issues in the family because they were blaming Sandy. So it affected the prayer family significantly. but also Lauren's friends. She says she's been able to lean on her friends over the last two decades. But they were there.

They've been a part of this journey. And at the sentencing hearing, a lot of family members were there. They were in person on Zoom. And they gave some really emotional impact statements, just sharing what type of person Leslie was. Yeah. And for Lauren, for her to be able to do that,

but also to come face to face with the fact that she dated a man who would be a killer. later in life. I mean, that had to just be horrific for her. And she, she just wanted to know why. And that's the one question she will probably never, never get an answer to. Why? And she discussed this with us. She just, she knew that Eugene had been welcomed into the family. He spent so much time with them. She just didn't know why he would do anything like this. And while they were together, I mean, they were together all the time during those high school years. And she says she never saw a violent side of him.

She never saw him rage out. She never saw him in that light. So this all came as a shock to her. Stephanie, it's a fascinating story. And we just so appreciate your joining us on 2020, not only on the podcast, but on the program. I'm so excited. Deborah, thank you so much. And thanks to the 2020 team.

Well, Stephanie, I think we're going to see more of you. Oh, I hope so. So don't go too far. That does it for us today on The After Show. Don't forget to stream. First comes Love, then comes murder on Hulu and Disney Plus, along with all of our other 2020 stories. 2020 The After Show is produced by Susie Lou, Emily Schutz, and Trevor Hastings of ABC Audio, with Sean Dooley, Brian Miserski, and Alex Berenfeld of 2020.

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