20/20 - True Crime Vault: The Vanishing Act

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

Detectives discuss evidence revealing how they say Sherri Papini fabricated her kidnapping. Originally broadcast on Sept. 30, 2022. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoice...s

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm John Quignores. Vanessa Guillaen, a 20-year-old soldier, vanishes while on duty at an army base in Texas. Her family demands answers. How can she go missing on a military base? That's too ridiculous. The search goes on for months. And a dark story starts to unfold.
Starting point is 00:00:26 She told her family that she was being sexually harassed. and wasn't reporting it out of fear of retribution and retaliation. What investigators finally uncover is horrifying. Find out how one soldier, a beloved sister and daughter, ignited a movement and sparked a reckoning in the U.S. military. Listen to Vanished. What happened to Vanessa? A new series from ABC Audio in 2020.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Listen now wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the 2020 True Crime Vault. It's the greatest story ever of survival, right? Except it never happened. It's a lie. Next tonight here, the desperate search for a missing mother in California. Sherry Papini. Sherry Papini. Why did she lie?
Starting point is 00:01:24 It didn't do anything wrong. Right now, you're not telling the truth, which is doing something wrong. Tonight that just released. video that takes you inside the interrogation room, breaking one of the most outrageous cons ever. Sherry told the world that she had sat there, locked up, chained, miserable, abused. I can't remember if she said, we don't want to hurt you, we don't want to kill you. There were definitely lots of people saying, oh, this is BS, it's an obvious hope. But then things get far more twisted.
Starting point is 00:02:00 There's information that I think you have about induction. There's evidence that says you were around. It's a massive break in the case. And now it all comes crumbling down. Oh my gosh, do we have a monster in our midst? This is very weird for me, because I know that you know everything. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:28 So I just got home for work and my wife wasn't there, which is unusual. She was reported missing at about 5.30 p.m. on November 2nd. Found her phone and it's got like hair ripped out of it, like in the headphones. So I'm like totally freaking out thinking like somebody like... What's your... What's your wife's name? Sherry. That's H-E-R-R-I.
Starting point is 00:02:49 My name is Sergeant Kyle Wallace. My name is Sergeant Kyle Wallace with the Shasconi Sheriff's Office. I was the lead investigator for the Sherry Pippini investigation. Okay, what's your last name? Pippini, P-A-P-A-P-I-N-I. And your first name? Uh, Keith. Okay, are you headed back to the house, or where are you at right now?
Starting point is 00:03:05 I'm at the end of the driver. Let's just have the officers contact you so they can start, you know, processing everything, figure out what's going on, okay? The whole Sherry Pippini story was just a huge bombshell to this area. The search is intensifying for a wife and mother who disappeared while jogging in Redding, California. The briefing was we had a lady that was jogging, came up missing, her husband came home not to find her, and then the kids were still at daycare. Sherry was last seen about a mile from her home in Mountain Gate. Search teams are looking everywhere, trying to piece together what has to be together what has.
Starting point is 00:03:50 happened to Sherry Papini. You have this beautiful blonde mom of two who all of a sudden had vanished. And whenever we have the abduction, especially of a mom, everyone panics. She is considered at risk due to the suspicious circumstances. There was definitely a sense of fear. We just knew that a young woman had been taken somewhere near the I-5 freeway. Her family suspecting something went terribly wrong. Someone took our daughter.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Our daughter snatched her out of the thin air. What does it feel like to have that thought that somebody has abducted your wife? Scared? I was scared. Everything from day one had your hairs up on the back of your neck, just trying to figure out what was going on. Sherry's disappearance was the start of a mystery that would grip the entire country as detectives searched for answers
Starting point is 00:04:42 in the rural Northern California town of Redding. Writing is unique. Northern California, two hours north of Sacramento. Roughly 180,000 people that live in Shaston County, but half of those people live in Greater Redding area. It's just the very get-or-done kind of community that helps one another. Sherry has been described as a super mom.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yeah, she's always wanted to be home with her babies and to be an important role in their lives. From everyone we talked to, Sherry, who was a stay-at-home mom, cherished her family life, doting on their four-year-old son, Tyler, and their two-year-old daughter, Violet. I know my sister would never leave her children, never leave her babies. They were a very nice couple, sweet, sweet young people.
Starting point is 00:05:36 She's just very kind-hearted and different from other girls that I have dated throughout the years. She's just so down to earth. Keith and Sherry's love story is really rather sweet. They shared a very electric first kiss to the seventh grade, and they stayed close and continued to communicate all through junior high. We have a unique story.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Years later, we kind of reconnected, and I remembered that I kept her notes that she wrote me. I took her out on a date, and I handed her a box, and of course it was like all our little love notes back and forth. I mean, this is like a cosmic connection? Yeah, yeah. No, like we were always meant to be, for sure. For Keith, there was never,
Starting point is 00:06:16 anyone but Sherry. He knew he wanted to marry her and he did in 2009. They later had two beautiful kids, they're all living together in the very same house where Keith grew up. Their whole relationship has just been the story book relationship. They do just very sweet things for one another. Even her wedding photos looks like a celebrity wedding, just so glamorous. The cutest, prettiest couple
Starting point is 00:06:46 We see these amazing family pictures, absolutely perfect. Everybody's so happy, that is an incredible stark contrast to the anguish we saw from Keith in November of 2016. Take me back to that day. It was a little cold in the morning, but it was a nice day. I went to work and I didn't get home until around 5 o'clock. He just came home to an empty house, which was unusual for him. I looked in a few different rooms and I couldn't find anybody. So I thought, okay, maybe they're outside.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I looked around outside and couldn't find him. He thinks they're just on a walk, but his time passes and they're still not home, started looking for his family. And I called our daycare type place. First thing I said is, what time did Sherry pick up the kids today. And when she said the kids are here, that was like, something is wrong.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Heath goes to the Find My Phone app, and he starts to track where Sherry's iPhone is. It's about a mile away, actually, near our mailbox. I wasn't looking for a phone. I was looking for Sherry. When I didn't find Sherry, I parked and I got out. And now I'm looking for a phone because it's saying it's here, it's here. Keith was so smart.
Starting point is 00:08:27 He took a picture of the phone when he found it because he thought it was weird, but he knew it was important, and he wanted to show it to the police. Where exactly did Keith find Sherry's phone? So the phone was found right near the intersection of Old Oregon Trail, and sunrise just a short distance away. I knew something was wrong. My first thing was somebody took her. And that begins the search for Sherry Papini.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Keith is panicked. He's calling everyone he knows, friends, family. When I heard Keith's voice on the phone, I fell down and just started crying. My sister's gone. Please bring her home. She has babies. babies, she loves them.
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Starting point is 00:11:11 trying to piece together what happened to Sherry Pippini. We're just using a map and we're doing some grid searches. The married mother of two vanishing without a trace last Wednesday afternoon while jogging near her Redding California home. It wasn't just that Sherry was missing and her cell phone was found. It's that her wallet, her purse, her keys were all at home. She hadn't used her credit cards. She hadn't been to the bank, the ATM, nothing.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Ms. Papani has been entered into a national computer for missing persons. She is considered at risk due to the suspicious circumstances. Everybody, put your good thoughts out there, put your prayers out there, and let's find Sherry. How quickly did public attention start to focus on this case and the Pippinies? Oh, immediately. Every day, you couldn't turn your teeth. beyond seeing, you know, Sherry's picture. The desperate search for a missing mother. Sherry Papini.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Last scene on Wednesday, the 34-year-old has been missing. It got massive headlines. I mean, everyone was following the Sherry Papini case. A story that is capturing nationwide attention. Sherry Papini. Sherry Papini. Sherry Papini. The amount of national attention was quite overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:12:36 All the cameras, all the reporters, everybody going around trying to, you know, get their own angle. The community responded. There was hundreds of volunteer searchers within the first couple of days. The longer that someone's missing, that's a very critical time within the first, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:51 24 hours. Working our way down on houses. It was really a wide variety of our community coming together to help the Pippini family. Not only does the family offers a reward for the safe return of Sherry, but so do perfect strength. A GoFundMe page is set up.
Starting point is 00:13:14 That page set up by Keith's friends promises all funds will go directly to the family to aid and search efforts to bring Sherry home. In total, raises nearly $50,000. They probably had a couple of hundred volunteers that were scouring this area looking for any evidence. Keith is volunteering in the search. He has tremendous support. tremendous support from friends and family, and they had a single mission to leave no stone unturned. I remember hiking, looking for evidence, looking for Sherry.
Starting point is 00:13:53 When we start to see some birds circling, they're like, you know, there's a lot of birds starting to circle over there. And I just went to my knees, and I thought, am I really, when I really, I can out here to look for my wife, and do I even want to, I don't want to find her right now, but I do want to find her. One of my good friends came over and just, you know, hugs me and let me cry on her shoulder for a little bit. It was a, that was a tough one for me in that day.
Starting point is 00:14:31 All this time, you're dealing with this. You've still got two little kids to think about. Fortunately, I have very, I have an amazing family and amazing friends, and they really, really came to the rescue on that, kept them happy, kept them out of this. Still, Keith knew he had to find a way to explain to his young son, Tyler, why his mom was away from home. I told him I had something important to tell him, and he jumped up on the couch with me, and he knew something was up. And he said, Dad, you can tell me anything. For a little four-year-old to say that, I wasn't prepared for that.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And I just said, I was like, son, you know, Mommy went running, and she didn't come home, and we just held each other. And I said, he said, are you looking for it? And I said, everybody in the whole world is looking for her right now. And I said, we're going to find her. And we're going to get her back. ABC News has learned police have suspended the ground search for the missing 34-year-old.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Detectives now scouring surveillance video. It is very frustrating for investigators that we haven't gotten any viable leads or tips to pursue on. What was Keith's behavior like those first few days after Sherry went missing? He would answer every media outlet, every chance to get. getting on TV. I feel that she's going to come home, and I want to be home when she comes home. So I interviewed Keith several times. He would contact me and say, can we do something more on Sherry?
Starting point is 00:16:15 What else can be done? Just to keep her face on the TV screen. It is excruciating. I don't like to think too much about it, because, you know, I just assume that I'm going to get a phone call any second, or she's going to, you know, show up at my house. He was trying to keep her story out there and keep her picture out there. But the detectives were watching TV every day.
Starting point is 00:16:36 if we can pick pieces out of some of these interviews he was doing. Because you were still eyeing him as a possible suspect. Yeah, yeah, definitely. We were looking at that. Basically, there were some inconsistencies in his story that made you a little bit suspicious of them. Sure.
Starting point is 00:16:49 So at this time, you're not only dealing with the disappearance of your wife, having to break it to your kids, but you're also the prime suspect. The sheriff's office thinks that you had something to do with Sherry's disappearance. Yeah. It never occurred to me at first that people would think it was me and then, you know, when you step back and you kind of look at this from an outside perspective, I'm sure you'd be,
Starting point is 00:17:15 oh, it's the, it's the husband. I remember family members where like, you need to, you need to get a lie detector test and you need to get this and this because they're saying all these mean things about you. I never care what other people were saying. Clearly investigators must do their due diligence in looking into Keith's life and activities. But at the same time with a missing woman, they need to know about her too.
Starting point is 00:17:42 We were looking into a little bit of everything, financials. We found where she had been previously married and had been divorced. Investigators learned Sherry had married a Marine Sergeant in 2006, which he said was because she needed health insurance. He said they never actually lived together
Starting point is 00:18:01 and divorced in 2008. And in a quick turnaround, Sherry and Keith married. the very next year. We checked with her ex-husband who lives out of state and found that he had not heard or seen from talk to her in probably six years or more. So that was not a viable lead. Even after an exhaustive search,
Starting point is 00:18:24 investigators still have no solid leads. They're no closer to finding Sherry or figuring out how she apparently disappeared in the middle of the day. We were going to keep every option open and keep an open mind that this could be any type of situation. It could be foul play. It could be a kidnapping. She could be voluntarily gone and her own. A missing mother in California.
Starting point is 00:18:54 The family convinced she was abducted. When you think about it, it's really rather unusual for a person just to be snatched off the street in the middle of a job. in the middle of a jog, but in Redding, California, it was not the first time. The last major disappearance in this county was of Tara Smith. That's correct. Yay, hi, Terri Lynn? Yep. My grand car.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Tara was 16, very outgoing, very friendly, well liked by just about everybody that knew her. You'll do great. Great. Thanks, Mom. We did everything together. We were at church every Sunday together. We had a very close church family. She was a good daughter.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I mean, we had typical teenage confrontations, you know, as most people do. Tara Smith was 16 years of age. Seemed to be extremely active in school, a very good student, had lots and lots of friends. She had recently started. She recently started taking a Taekwondo class with one of her best friends. She was spending time at the dojo and had this new instructor, Troy Zink. The Smiths owned and operated a family entertainment center in the town of Reading and Tara was the oldest of their four children.
Starting point is 00:20:24 She helped out at the family business and she was supposed to be working that night. So six o'clock comes and goes and she doesn't show up and that's not like her. She was always where she was supposed to be, when she was supposed to be. So I called home, our younger daughter, who was 10, said that she had gone for a run. And she hadn't come back. But started off looking at it from the perspective
Starting point is 00:20:51 that this is just a teenage kid, maybe somebody else's house, visiting somebody. Started driving all the roads, looking for her running somewhere. Started calling her friends and nobody had seen Tara. We just couldn't find her. We just couldn't find her. One of her friends called back and said she believed her
Starting point is 00:21:15 Ta-Wendo instructor, Troy Zink, had an inappropriate relationship with her. On the very first night she was missing, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, were looking through her bedroom and came across some journals that Tara kept. In reading her journals, there were pages in there relating to a relationship between Tara Smith and Troy Zink. They also say they found this four-page letter that Tara had addressed Troy Zink.
Starting point is 00:21:46 To the Smiths, it seemed to confirm that she was involved in an intimate relationship with him. She wrote, I know that what I'm doing is wrong. There is no way to overlook this fact. It's against God's will, and we both know it. But the letter also makes it clear that Tara had deep praise. regrets, and she decided to end the relationship. She wrote, ask herself this question. Are you putting yourself and us before God?
Starting point is 00:22:12 I know I am, but not anymore. We think she intended to give the letter to him and then opted to meet him in person instead. We know that she did call him the day of her disappearance, which is Saturday. She wanted to meet with him. tell him in person that she was calling off the relationship. I called the house, talked to his wife, and she didn't know where he was, but he wasn't at home. At this point, the Smith's call the police, and an officer is sent to Troy Zink's home. Now, he's nowhere to be found, and Zink never contacted police that night, but guess who he did call?
Starting point is 00:22:59 did call the Smith family. He did get home and called us back. 11 o'clock. And said that Tara had called him and asked him to come to her on the road back behind her property, and she asked for money. He claims that he told her he wouldn't give her the money, that she got angry, started cussing at him,
Starting point is 00:23:22 and screaming and hollering. And he ultimately dropped her off. at an intersection. And he says that he last saw her jogging east on that fairly busy road. And then he proceeded to go home, get his dogs, and then go up to the mountain to prey. The last time anybody saw Tara Smith, it was right here on this remote gravel road, road just about a quarter of a mile from where she lives with their family. I remember covering this case so well.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I covered it for a while. Last person to see her was Troy Zink. Police launched an extensive search for terror, but nobody or any trace of her was ever found. Mr. Zink, could we have just a second? Once Troy Zink was named a person of interest, he retained a lawyer and then refused to talk to investigators or submit to a polygraph test. And while that case still remains open to this day, Zink is on the record saying he had nothing to do with Tara's disappearance, and he was never charged.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I know there remains something is always found. People don't just go missing and are never recovered. And sadly, that's not the case. 18 years had passed since Tara Smith went missing, a tragedy still fresh in the minds of the Redding community when Sherry Pupini disappeared. in a similar way. It was on the investigators' minds. In fact, there is a resemblance of Tara Smith and Ms. Pippini, which made it maybe even a little bit more eerie. A hunt for a woman who vanished without a trace.
Starting point is 00:25:10 We lost our daughter. She never came back, so I don't think we thought show you would be found. This whole incident just brought back that fear and concern in our community that was ramped path. Then the Smith woman was missing. Missing Mother last seen jogging near her home. What happened to Sherry Pippini?
Starting point is 00:25:30 That's part of what made our community really get behind Keith and his efforts. It is very difficult for me and for my family. I would never wish this feeling upon anybody. It is taking its toll on me. Now at this point, Keith is contacted by someone who claims he can help as a hostage negotiator. These videos this guy was putting out when I walked him, I was a little shocked. I wanted to make it so tempting that the abductor's own mother would have turned out.
Starting point is 00:26:01 At the end of the seventh day of the search for Sherry Papini, investigators seem no closer to finding her. I'm just wondering about her health. Are they feeding her? Is she hot? Is she cold? Sherry's disappearance was completely different from Tara Smith. Keith was desperate. He wants to hold on to anything, anyone. And that's when he made And he made the decision that he wanted to meet with Marilyn and Terry Smith. He was pretty distraught and just wanted to know mainly how to deal with the circus, you know, the law enforcement and media and just all the demands. Our hearts really went out to her family, what they were going through, and her kids, not having
Starting point is 00:26:48 their mom. We were hoping against hope that she would be found and she'd be returned and we were praying for Keith and the kids. The rule of thumb for criminologists in any missing person's case is that the first 72 hours are critical. And with every passing hour, the chances of finding the victim alive fade.
Starting point is 00:27:09 So investigators looking for Sherry are desperate for a break. But still, at this point, the only piece of evidence they have to go on was her phone. The phone was found in this general area right here facing up her earbuds. were somewhat coiled and placed on top of the phone,
Starting point is 00:27:28 and there was a few strands of her hair with the earbud. Did it make you think that perhaps it was staged? It looked like it could have been placed there. It didn't look like the phone was thrown down or just haphazardly set off to the side. There's so much about the abduction that just doesn't add up. And so with so very little to go on, investigators can only do one thing at this point,
Starting point is 00:27:53 and that's focused their attention on Keith Papina. We called in a polygraph examiner to Polygraph Keith. I was like, no problem, let's hurry up and get this over with. It's a crazy feeling just going through that. Did they ask you if you had anything to do with Sherry's disappearance? Oh, of course. These tests, they don't tell you if it's a big lie or a small lie. They just know, like, when you're lying.
Starting point is 00:28:19 How did he do on that polygraph test? He passed Polygraph. local officials are saying her husband's polygraph test indicates that he had no involvement with her disappearance adding that they were also able to confirm his whereabouts the day she went missing everything that he did that day we were able to cooperate he was with another co-worker that we were able to say that he was with him all day when most cases of domestic abuse or disappearance the spouse or the partner has something to do with it that never bothered me
Starting point is 00:28:50 I knew, obviously, had nothing to do with it, and I didn't care. I looked past all that. Police are still no closer to locating Sherry or figuring out why she was taken or by whom. We need something tangible to hold on to. And when we don't have that or you're dancing around some answers that may be there, it can get very frustrating and taxing and tiring. Now, at this point, Keith is contacted. by someone who claims he can help as a hostage negotiator.
Starting point is 00:29:25 His name is Cameron Gamble, and he tells Keith that an anonymous donor has offered $50,000 for Sherry's safe return. No questions asked. You don't know who the anonymous person is. No. It's anonymous to you as well? Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:42 My name is Cameron Gamble, and I'm an international kidnapping ransom consultant. I've been retained by an individual who wishes to remain anonymous. Who is Cameron Gamble? We know he's a former Air Force senior airman who makes a living training military, law enforcement, even private citizens on how to evade and escape capture. There was no idea or thought that if I think could work, that I was not going to try. Gamble decides to post a video on YouTube, promising the kidnappers a payday. Take advantage of this opportunity. But there is one very important condition.
Starting point is 00:30:22 They must return Sherry by the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. What made you so confident that this was an abduction and not something else? Everything I looked at fit that bill. Look at the husband. He wasn't faking it. Look at Sherry herself. This isn't the type of girl who's just going to walk away from all that. Bring her home.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Bring her home safe. There's a $50,000 reward. Bring her home. Cameron Gamble makes this makes this public plea specifically to the kidnappers. And he says, I will work with you. I will talk to you. I will negotiate this, contact me.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Well, of course they don't contact him. Your critics would say that this is a publicity stunt. They can say that all they want. I don't do this for the critics. I do this for the small number that actually matter, and that would be Keith and Sherry. I don't know your motive. I don't know who you are.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I don't care. I simply care about getting Sherry back. Did you ever expect someone to ring you up and say, I have Sherry, I want the money. I was hopeful. We were so convinced that Sherry was still alive. You know, you go into these situations thinking they're dead, then you lose hope right off the bat.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Though Cameron Gamble's motivations are sincere for the investigators on the case, his involvement muddies up what was already a murky case. We were opposed to it. And the reason we were, this would create Kooks, scam artists, con artists coming out of the woodwork. There were some big opponents to this. The sheriff was adamantly opposed.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Yeah. To Cameron Gabble being involved in any way. For me, I was going to do everything I could to get my wife back. The deadline for the ransom comes and goes, not a peep from the kidnappers. So on the day before Thanksgiving, Gamble throws Hail Mary. The ransom is now a six-figure bounty. and it's for anyone who turns in the kidnappers. I'm sorry you didn't take advantage of this opportunity when you had the chance. The world has been looking for Sherry Popini,
Starting point is 00:32:26 and now the world is going to be looking for you, whoever you are. Was it actually a call for bounty hunters? I said, I don't care your criminal status. I don't care if there's a worn out for your arrest. If you can lead us to Sherry, and we give you more cash than you can spend. These videos this guy was putting out, when I watched him, I was a little shocked, because we went from cooperated with us we don't care to now we're taking the money off the table and we're coming after I wanted to make it so tempting that the abductor's own mother would have turned in about three weeks after Sherry disappeared on the morning of Thanksgiving before the sun has even come up this trucker calls 911 911 emergency what are you reporting there's a lady on the side of the road and needing help and I talked to her
Starting point is 00:33:14 Please, please. Oh my God. This is unbelievable. It's now been more than two weeks since Sherry disappeared on November 2nd. There's no leads. And Thanksgiving is just around the corner. Keith Papini is sinking into tremendous despair. Thanksgiving morning, there's a tradition here of a big race called the Turkey Trot.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And so Keith had asked that balloons be released that day in honor of Sherry, in honor of the search for her. You know, we're all looking for you, and here's just a symbol, here's home. And I really like that. Happy Thanksgiving, it's going to be a cold morning. You've got the turkey trot in Reading. Bundle up. If you're up just getting your turkey ready, I want to wish you a happy Thanksgiving. In the pre-dawn hours of November 24th, which was Thanksgiving morning, 150 miles south of Redding and Yolo County, a driver spots a woman in distress on the side of the highway. A truck driver actually pulled over as a big rig because she was standing trying to wave cars down and she was frantic.
Starting point is 00:34:39 So this trucker calls 911. 911 emergency what are you reporting hi i have an emergency there's a lady on the side of the road needing help do you know what's wrong with her she's saying that she got kicked out of her boyfriends okay just just be safe where you are what what is she asking for she's chained up her vision blurry and needs an ambulance do you see her chained up yeah her name is sherry panini Can I talk to her? Here. Please.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Please. Sherry, I need you to listen to me. Listen to me. Do you know where you are? No. No. I've been in the car. Okay, take a deep breath, sweetie.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Who chained you up? Do you know the person or were you kidnapped? I don't know. I don't know. Okay, listen. Listen, I have help on the way. You're going back to me. Very early in the morning, Thanksgiving Day, you get a phone call.
Starting point is 00:35:54 My cell phone rang. I didn't pick up the first call. I was just getting done shaving. I didn't recognize the number. Immediately after that, my home phone rang. I pick it up, and it was a very mixed emotion. It was my wife. screaming in the background.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I'm panicked, but I'm happy because I, at this point, this is the first time I've heard her voice. I know she's a laugh. And you hear, and I hear screaming. So then I get the phone and, oh my God, honey, and of course, she's screaming. It's very emotional. And I love you, I love you, love you, oh, my God,
Starting point is 00:36:32 you're here, you're back, where are you? And then the phone gets, like, taken away from her, like, super quick. I got a call from Keith. Keith was frantic, yelling into the phone, they found her. She's been located telling me CHP and down in Sacramento area had Sherry. Meanwhile, back in Reading, there's about to be a big balloon release, but no one knows anything about the miraculous return of Sherry from captivity. Two, three. There were probably a thousand balloons.
Starting point is 00:37:10 We all felt, well, please let one of those balloons be a light for finding Sherry. Let's get her home. I was supposed to meet Keith at the Turkey Trot that morning, but Keith didn't show up. And so that's when I just went home and was up working on my roof when I got the call from Sheriff Besenko saying, Sherry had been found. We are very ecstatic to report that Sherri Papini has been located. She was found early Thanksgiving morning near I-5 in Yolo County.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Sherry Papini found alive. Missing for nearly a month under mysterious circumstances has been found alive. It was just kind of surreal, like what do you mean we found her? Then my mind kicks in at that point. Who? What? How? Is she alive? The paramedics were the first people to tell her Happy Thanksgiving. It just blew her mind and then she's like, oh, it's Thanksgiving night.
Starting point is 00:38:08 And they said, no, it's Thanksgiving morning. Sherry is immediately transported by ambulance to the Woodland Hospital. That's where I met her a couple hours later. First walking into the hospital room, Sherry was pretty hostile, which I didn't expect. Detective Wallace recorded that first interaction at the hospital with a very shaken sounding Sherry. I can't imagine what you've been through. We don't know how this happened.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I don't know. No one can protect me. I just want my husband. No one found me. And I want my husband. I want my husband. One of the officers kind of braced me and put his arm around me and he said, you know, prepare yourself.
Starting point is 00:38:50 She's alive and you just got to be happy. And in that recording, you can hear how emotional Sherry sounds when she's reunited with Keith. Sherry Papini is found I know. Sherry Popini is found alive and everybody is ecstatic about her safer turn. But this story is about to become far more twisted than anybody can imagine. Looking at her injuries at the hospital, I was shocked by them. Her kidnappers had branded her. She said they don't struggle that I can go on.
Starting point is 00:39:30 If they don't struggle, I could go home. Why would you starve her, torture her, and chop off her hair? How could somebody do something like this? That's the mystery. Why? But then, everyone has questions. There were definitely lots of people saying, oh, this is BS. It's not true. Things just started to not really add up.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Investigators also get the DNA hit. The DNA was of a male. We're here regarding Sherry Papine. Sherry Papine, we're just trying to understand how your DNA got there. What are the chances? The DNA came back. It's a massive break in the case. That's not what happened, what did happen, Sherry.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I just don't. No, there's no way. There's no weight. And now it all comes crumbling down. There's no way. The DNA doesn't lie. Tron is back. Are you serious?
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Starting point is 00:41:35 The mystery evolved in the town of Reading, but really the story gripped an entire nation as police looked everywhere for Sherry. About three weeks after Sherry disappeared, 22 days. days later on the morning of Thanksgiving before the sun has even come up. She's found alive. Good morning, America, a Thanksgiving miracle. Sherry Papini, the Shasta County mother missing for three weeks, has been found alive. We are very ecstatic to report that Sherry Popini has been located.
Starting point is 00:42:19 She and Keith have been reunited. It was Thanksgiving Day. They just said Sherry's back, Sherry's home. She's been found. We were so happy for Sherry, so happy for her family that they got her back. And then it felt like just a stab in the heart at the same time because we didn't get our daughter back. It brought all that pain back again to not get our daughter back.
Starting point is 00:42:49 It was amazing to see her alive and talking and saying our names. But it was hard to see her in the condition that she was in. Looking at her injuries at the hospital, I was shocked by them. I've been to several homicides. I've been to several domestic violence situations in my career, but the totality of the injuries for it to be all over her face, her arms, her legs, and her chest, and her back was just alarming. In 2016, I spoke to Keith just days after Sherry returned.
Starting point is 00:43:36 What did you see? The bruises were just intense. Her hair, everybody knows Sherry. She's always had very long, blonde hair, and, you know, they chopped it off. She lost almost 15% of her body weight in 22 days. That is traumatic physically. It made me sick that there is people out there that could do something like this. Now, the detectives wanted to talk to Sherry.
Starting point is 00:44:08 They're looking for any information that she can give them about the horror that she had just endured. But it didn't really seem like Sherry wanted to talk to Sherry. talk to them. I don't want to talk to you. Tell me I'm going to look at them. I'm not leaving me. Sherry says she doesn't want to talk to the police because she's afraid of them. Her kidnappers told her that she was going to be sold to someone as part of a sex trafficking ring.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And that one of the people involved was actually in law enforcement. He said that they were involved. I don't want to talk to them. She really wasn't having any part of talking. We made the investigative decision to keep Keith in the room to hopefully start getting the information. We have to do this, and we have to catch these people. Let's just answer everything they want to know.
Starting point is 00:45:05 With Keith asking the questions, Sherry begins opening up about what happened to her. On November 2nd, Sherry said she was on a run in her neighborhood. She initially saw a black SUV going north. Close the car. When did she look? This is an SUV. It was a dark colored SUV. Dark colored SUV.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I know it's just one person. Two. Two. Two women. Two women. They were Hispanic. They spoke Spanish a lot. She said the younger female got out with a handgun and Sherry just froze.
Starting point is 00:45:43 She was instructed to get into her. to get into the vehicle. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I got in the car. I'm sorry. But first, she places her cell phone and earbuds on the ground and pulls out some strands of her hair to place on top of those items. They begin to drive.
Starting point is 00:46:00 She doesn't know where they're going. That first day, you were supposed to be in the car for a while, is that right? I don't know. I lost time. I lost a lot of time. Okay. And they didn't let me see me.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Do I had something from my face and wrapped around me. I think she may have teased me. I don't remember. I don't remember. And I can see it. I remember. Oh, my God. Did she know the people she was with?
Starting point is 00:46:30 No. The people who abducted her. No. Didn't recognize them. No. Did she ever see them? Their faces were always covered. Aside from all the bruises,
Starting point is 00:46:42 the bruises and abrasions and restraints, police were pretty shocked to find that Sherry actually had been branded on the upper right portion of her back. And they said I was branded, and that was what he said. That's what you like this. In fact, they were in my back, and then I did the table.
Starting point is 00:47:03 I want to do. It would be every day I do. It's been like a puppy, so. It hurts so bad. The word was Exodus, something from the Bible. She was physically abused quite a bit, but there was no evidence of any type of sexual abuse. Sherry Papini has endured three weeks of beating and abuse and torment. Then after all that, the kidnappers let her go.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Sherry says she has no idea why they suddenly decided to release her. I'll never forget hearing Keith Pepini talk about the moment he got to see his own children reunited with their mother. Four-year-old Tyler went first. He hugged her and my wife obviously very emotional and started crying and she said, I'm so happy and my son of course is like, you don't cry when you're happy and my wife said when you're this happy you cry. Then it was two-year-old Violet's turn.
Starting point is 00:48:11 She just said, Mommy! And just took off running and she picked her up and then we all went to the ground for a big family hug. What a blessing, right? That she was found safe. But then, everyone has questions. Once she returned home, we went from worrying about finding a lady to now finding her abductors. The cops took every piece of clothing that she was wearing, including her underwear. They bagged it, sealed it because they were going to test it for forensic evidence and DNA.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Authorities are now searching for two Hispanic women armed with a handgun in a dark SUV. I see a vehicle go past. The window goes down, but it was... It was a woman. There was some dangerous people out there, inflicting this type of harm and torture onto somebody. It's like, oh my gosh, do we have a monster in our midst? Welcome home, Jerry!
Starting point is 00:49:21 After 22 really harrowing days, Jerry Pippini, she's home. Everyone really is overjoyed about this. But it wasn't over yet. Still, these alleged kidnappers are on the loose. Officials say they're looking for two Hispanic women that they consider to be armed and dangerous driving a dark SUV. Two Hispanic females in a dark colored SUV in the state of California is not much of a tip. No, it would be literally a needle in a haystack.
Starting point is 00:49:55 The investigation is far from over. In fact, it has only begun a new chapter. In this just released video, you see detectives from the Shasta County Sheriff's Office interviewing Sherry at her home. She was in a ball and a cocoon, essentially, with her knees up to her chest. I feel like sometimes it's easier with my eyes closed to her. Is that okay? Absolutely. Absolutely. Again, Keith had to be present for the interview. She wouldn't allow us to talk to her alone. I can't be blown with people I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:35 So he's here. He's here for the direction. We're here for you. I'm here for you. Cops go out of their way to reassure Sherry and make her comfortable, but you can see she's reluctant to open up to them. That's another thing I'm scared about. I don't know you guys.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I don't know if you're in my corner. I know my husband's in my corner. But, you know, there was a lot of other people. of other things and I know that you guys know about everything. Yeah. It's embarrassing. Well, yeah. That's weird for me.
Starting point is 00:51:13 That's weird for me. Now, Sherry provides these very unique details about the home where she was held captive. And all of these specifics can help investigators narrow the search, especially as they get closer to potential suspects in a case. She said she was put into a bedroom. Sherry described that bedroom with just a single bed, no other artifacts inside the room. There was boards on the windows and I yanked that
Starting point is 00:51:43 the wall super quick and that's what got her in the room with that noise. The yanking it out was what made the noise. Broke my nail, ripped it off. She came in and then it was lights out. it was lights out. What do you mean I was lighted out? I can't remember if it was,
Starting point is 00:52:05 if I was hit with something, if I was stuck with something, if it, and that's what I was asking too, if I was tased, wouldn't I remember? Sherry tells investigators that she was chained to a very specific kind of pole in the closet. There was a chain around my waist. Do you know what you were affixed to?
Starting point is 00:52:25 Was it a tether? Was it like a robe? A metal cable. Was the cable affixed to the wall and like the cable was loose? The cable was affixed to a pole that went up into the ceiling. She describes it as a piece of all thread, essentially a long bolt that has grooves, just like a screw. So the cable that you were attached to, that was loose. I had slack.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Yes, yes. I could get to the bed, so it reached the bed. Okay. I could obviously get to the closet. Couldn't reach the door. How about the bathroom? What's that look like? It just was a standard.
Starting point is 00:53:04 There was a crack in the tile. It was a light colored tile that was speckled. There was a crack in the tile. It was always hands on the wall. It was a really high-pressured shower. That very first shower that I had hurt really bad because the burn was fresh and the water was running over it
Starting point is 00:53:26 and there was other open looms and it just she literally lived through hell the thing she told me that she did acting like she was tucking in her kids and she told me when time she took some piece of cloth
Starting point is 00:53:50 and rolled it up like it was violent She would rocket. She's so strong. The Shasta County Sheriff offered new information this afternoon into the abduction and discovery of a running woman. The sheriff held a news conference today describing Sherry Papini as courageous and revealing details about her three-week ordeal.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Suspect number one, had long, curly hair. She had a thick accent. She had pierced ears. Suspect number two, She had straight black hair with some graying color. She had thick eyebrows. I've lived here most of my life. In the Hispanic Latino community, we were shocked,
Starting point is 00:54:38 but it could have happened. I mean, we had to have an open mind and think, well, maybe these were gang affiliates who did this horrible thing. Sherry told investigators, they kept telling me no one's ever going to believe me. No one's ever going to believe me. That's because people from law enforcement are involved in this ring and you are going to be sold to someone. We do have some sex trafficking going on in our community, unfortunately, like probably every community.
Starting point is 00:55:07 But there are others who thought that certain details of Sherry's story weren't actually consistent with sex trafficking. If you're going to traffic someone for monetary purposes, are you going to starve them, them, beat them, especially in the face, chop off their beautiful long looks, you're going to do the opposite. You want them to look like someone you can sell, unfortunately. Things just started to not really add up exactly. Next, the strange new twists in the case of Sherri Papini, rumors that it could all be a hoax. There were definitely lots of people saying, oh, this is BS, this is an obvious hoax.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Many reports have said that this was a little bit of a attention-seeking kind of couple, sort of a reality show ready to go. And there started to be rumors that circulated that Sherry had something to do with her own disappearance. Did that anger you? In my darkest hours, I obviously explored any possible outcome. You know, could she have just left? I mean, there's no evidence. And then, as everybody will tell you, no. She couldn't. I knew it in my heart. With mystery still swirling about who's responsible,
Starting point is 00:56:26 this Northern California community is on edge. Should the community be worried? The community should be concerned. The police are mystified. It was frustrating. I did not want this to be a cold case when I retire someday. I assume you were also looking at the Sherry's background. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:41 There's some red flags there. She had been talking to a man in the days before she was abducted, not her husband. And five months later, there is still a lot, police don't know. There is concern about inconsistencies in Sherri Papini's case. There were no witnesses at the time. We had very little to go on. Some things just weren't adding up.
Starting point is 00:57:09 While the police are mystified, the Papini's go quiet and lay low. Sherry and Keith have a dinner with the Smith family. Remember, those are the people who still have no answers on their own missing daughter, Tara. We had a nice dinner. Just, I guess, to talk about the shared experience, kind of, and support them. We didn't ask questions. We didn't probe too much about her experience, but it definitely looked like she had been traumatized. She went to use the restroom and was so claustrophobic.
Starting point is 00:57:47 She said, as a result of having been bound in a close space, that she asked Keith, her husband, to go in the restroom with her. We thought, given what she had experienced, was understandable. When lights are off, with doors shut, when she hears certain sounds, I mean, it's something that I don't know how to deal with, and we'll need somebody that, you know, can help her through that from a professional standpoint. Sherry gets that help, and it comes from a government program that gives financial aid to victims of crime. And it paid thousands of dollars for therapy to treat the anxiety and PTSD that Sherry claimed she suffered from that kidnapping. Nothing had happened for a while.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Then it came another big reveal from the police. This morning, the FBI released these news. release these new suspect sketches. And it shows two Hispanic women, but with their faces covered up. It did seem odd that it took Sherry Pippini almost a full year to come up with enough details for a sketch artist to work with.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Law enforcement seemed to react quickly to this, and the manhunt was on. The tips came in and tips like, I saw two Hispanic ladies at Walmart. They concerned me. Latino women were fearful that they might look like one of those people in the sketch. They wouldn't walk in pairs. They wouldn't drive to work or family outings in an SUV.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Around the same time, investigators also get back results from the crime lab that's been examining Sherry's clothing. And there's a DNA hit, exactly what they were hoping for, but the results are confusing. The DNA was of a male, and it would be somewhat incongruent with the allegations that she made that she was abducted by two Hispanic women. So that was, you know, perplexing. Are you putting it mildly that finding a male DNA was perplexing? Yeah, I would say so.
Starting point is 01:00:00 That was an issue for me, and that was an issue for all the detectives. Still, this is a very big deal, a potential link to the kidnappers. The next step was to enter that DNA profile into the law enforcement. database to see if this unknown guy is in the system. And we get a return that nothing matched with it. And so now we're back to the drawing board. I assume you're also looking into Sherry's background. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:27 What did you find? There's some little bit of red flags there. In a 2003 call seeking advice from police, Sherry's mother said that her daughter was apparently harming herself and blaming it on her. Then investigators talked to her first husband because Sherry had been married before. According to the police, he said,
Starting point is 01:00:47 yeah, but you know, she was a real liar. She made up a lot of stories. And it wasn't just her ex-husband waving red flags. Police say many friends and relatives were less than supportive. Has anyone told you that she had a history of writing away? Because that is kind of how she used to deal with things. As a child, when things got hard, she would just run away. And then you had the other half that say she's super mom,
Starting point is 01:01:12 she would never leave. I really strongly feel like she would not leave those babies. They are her life. Another information revealed was that she had been talking to a man, not her husband. She was trying to meet up with another man shortly before she went missing. You know, there was some infidelity issues
Starting point is 01:01:33 in her background that even Keith had told us about. Issues with infidelity, issues with lying, and a history of running away. Yeah, oh yeah. There was definitely some dishonesty in the background. They went back to Sherry time and time again and found that often her stories were inconsistent. She told different stories about why she had been branded.
Starting point is 01:01:54 She said she was branded by her kidnappers because she tried to run away. Because her chain rattled the females branded her for punishment. But then she also said, oh no, I was branded by my kidnappers because my buyer, the person who was going to buy me, wanted me branded. Is this real? Is this not real?
Starting point is 01:02:15 At any point, we could just say, we're done with this. But then where's our due diligence? What if it really did happen? I was telling my staff, unless we have some very strong evidence to disprove her allegations, we need to continue forward with the investigation.
Starting point is 01:02:31 It was hard for investigators to get past the sheer brutality of her injuries. Her kidnappers had branded her. And I have to tell you, when I heard that detail. Ooh, okay. So maybe some really horrible things really did happen to this woman.
Starting point is 01:02:49 And I do recall that there's no way these were self-inflicted. We have an innate ability not to want to harm ourselves because it hurts. Years had passed by and really no new information had been released to the public. I honestly thought it would just fade away. And then in 2020, there is a massive break in this case, and it's all because of the DNA.
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Starting point is 01:04:40 case when I retire someday. The Sheriff's Department pushed on. Now remember, investigators had that male DNA they'd gotten from Sherry's clothing, but they had never been able to connect it to anyone. Investigators asked permission of the courts to be able to run that DNA against all those DNA ancestry type websites where people contribute their own DNA, looking for familial DNA. They're hoping somebody in this guy's family
Starting point is 01:05:16 had used one of those DNA websites. If they find a relative, they've got a lead. And it worked. The familial DNA. This man has two sons. One of those sons used to date Sherry Papini. They came back to James Reyes, an ex-boyfriend. And you see James Reyes in a photo with Sherry
Starting point is 01:05:37 from one of her social media posts. It's a massive big. break in the case so the FBI field officer and myself went down to James's residence to do the confrontation oh good morning obviously he was a little reluctant he was scared we're here regarding Sherry Papini okay I'm just trying to figure out how you know her when was last time you talked to her well me and Sherry dated back in no too and I've been talked to her in years there's information that I think you have about the deduction yeah I mean I just that's I don't I all as I know is what I read about it we're just trying to understand if she was truly abducted
Starting point is 01:06:16 is she lying to everybody and gone 2020 and is a liar are you willing to tell us what happened yes or no and we're just sit and talk and it's not until 53 minutes into this interview that they get reyes to finally come clean i didn't kidnap her you know i just friend in need asked me for help And that was that. What did she say? She was trying to get away from her husband. Your husband beat you, your husband raped you. I don't know what her deal was.
Starting point is 01:06:47 She made up stories. You know, Keith was abusing her. She needed to get out of that relationship. As Sergeant Kyle Wallace chats up Reyes, his FBI colleague wanders the apartment. Ding, ding, ding, ding. This apartment, this closet, and this bathroom, looked just like the place that Sherry says she was held captive.
Starting point is 01:07:14 All the way down to the Allthread. All thread, that's the screw, the metal pole that she described. Yeah, the metal pole and the screw. She said she was chained to that. Chain, yeah. The ex-boyfriend's version of what happened is radically different from what Sherry told the authorities happened. But you're saying absolutely, there was just you and her in the car.
Starting point is 01:07:33 There were no females involved. I don't know. He's not really girls. I mean, this is, yeah, there's no way. He was duped by her, but he went along with it. I didn't know what the final plan was, like, were we going to end up together? Was that her plan? But it's fair to say you were hoping maybe you could get together there?
Starting point is 01:07:48 No, no, I wasn't there yet. She instructed James to get a rental car, leave his cell phone at his house, and drive the nine hours or so to get to Redding, California to pick her up. He gets her down to his apartment, gives Sherry the bedroom, and he sleeps on the couch. He sleeps on the couch. Sherry asked him to put up the plywood to block out the window. I think James thought it was strange,
Starting point is 01:08:15 but he was also just helping a friend. Sherry told the world that she had sat there, locked up, chained, miserable, abused. But Rea says the truth was that she voluntarily spent time alone reading the news about her own disappearance. She starts to act erratically according to him. She starts losing a lot. lot of weight he says she's not eating much one day came home from work and she'd
Starting point is 01:08:41 cut off her hair but then things get far more twisted remember all those terrible injuries covering Cherry's body how did all that stuff I mean she did while she was here I mean she just hit herself with something creative ruse or something and I helped her I mean I didn't punch or anything I just she just was just like thank a puck off my leg so I shot a buck off her like lightly Reyes also says that Sherry slammed a hockey stick into her own face. That's how she injured her nose? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:15 It's a weird situation. I mean, I know it, yeah. And that's my life. Like, man, what the f***. So now he's describing a situation where he has an unhinged woman in his apartment. She's bleeding, bruised, burned, and scarred. Then she says to him, I need you to brand my back. I'm like, oh, this is probably going to hurt.
Starting point is 01:09:38 I mean, I've never done this. I can't even say it did a good job, you know what I mean? I just, that's scary. You've ever burned, have you ever done that to someone? Yeah. It was so hot, it was red. What'd she do for the pain? If you do, she didn't really complain about a lot of pain.
Starting point is 01:09:52 I want to say after this amount of time in the law enforcement, nothing surprises me, but I was little taken back. And then she was like, I'm ready to go back to the kids, and she started missing her babies. I'm like, of course. Everybody's got a plan until reality day. It's just like, I'm ready to go, and it's like Thanksgiving game, I'm just like, seriously? Then before dawn on that now infamous Thanksgiving morning, James Reyes says he dropped Sherry off in a remote area.
Starting point is 01:10:22 It's the greatest story ever of survival, right? Except it never happened. It's a lie. It's a hoax. It's all made up. We come up with a plant to do an interview to confront her with his evidence. In August of 2020, investigators asked sharing her husband to come in. Thank you for coming. We appreciate you to take the time to contact us. Thanks to the cooperation of that ex-boyfriend, James Reyes. Investigators now believe they have solid proof that Cherry Pepini's kidnapping was a hoax. The plan is developed to confront her with this and get a reaction.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Does she have any idea what's about to happen? Oh, no. So were you able to find where that house is? Yes. And what? Tell me more. Tell me more. We'll get to that.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Okay. She's confronted with pictures that look exactly like the places she says. I mean, she described a crack in the tile in the bathroom. So this crack is in a different location than this crack, which is... And they showed her a picture of that exact crack. And they say, Does this look like, you know, the place that you were held captive? And she's like, yeah, kind of, but not exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:45 It's pretty, excuse my language, it's pretty f***er similar. But it's different. There was even a pole in the closet where she was staying. I mean, yes. Keith right next to her jumping up and down, saying it's the right one. So he thinks this is a break in the case. Oh, yeah, absolutely. He thinks they found the abductors.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Yes. We talked to the people who live there. Sorry. We found the house. We found who was involved. When the police finally dropped the bomb, the mood changes and the body language changes. DNA came back, like I said, to a specific person.
Starting point is 01:12:31 That specific person told us very specific things. So if we can talk with Keith or without Keith here, what would you like? Do you want to step out or do you want to stay? Obviously I'm going to stay. And you can see on that video that the detectives step out to let them decide. And Keith appears to be confused by Sherry's reaction because he thinks it's great news. You need to stop waiting. And at this point Sherry tells Keith that she doesn't want to
Starting point is 01:13:04 want police to catch that captor who she claims helped her escape. I don't want them to fund her. You're not listening to me. I tell me why. Because she saved my life and she's the reason why I get to hold my children every single day. The detectives go back on the room and pretty much lay this case out. The DNA that was on you belongs to James Rice. We talked to him. We've been on the polygraph. We talked to everybody around him. We We have the rental agreements, phone rental, car rental agreements.
Starting point is 01:13:39 The reason why you lost so much weight is because you stopped eating. The reason why the brand is because he went to the store and bought the brand new tools and branded you. The reason why your nose was broke is because of a hockey stick. It's not an abduction. She asked me to come to get her. No. I rented a car. No.
Starting point is 01:14:00 I drove up and picked her up. He passed the palm of ground. That's not what happened, what didn't happen was changed. I don't know. No, there's no way it's changed. There's no way. The DNA doesn't mind. And she's like, no, no.
Starting point is 01:14:21 You mean he's behind it? I just cannot believe that my ex-boyfriend is behind my kidnapping. Keith is in the room when they're identifying and talking about the ex-boyfriend who she was allegedly with that whole time. with that whole time. Yeah, and Keith just, he gets up and walks out. Were you surprised that she stuck to her guns even after you presented what, you know, appeared to be this incredibly compelling evidence?
Starting point is 01:14:49 Not at all. She had spun this story for so long that, um, that she wasn't going to come off of it. They tell her that they have proof of phone contact with her and James, and that sense her since her spinning off into another direction. It's my fault that I was flirting with other men. It was just stupid thing to you. You love my husband. I love my children.
Starting point is 01:15:13 That's understandable. Here's the deal with other men. Not a crime. Lying to me today? Yes, a crime. She just went into her cocoon state where she just tried to control the interview by crying, putting her head in her hands,
Starting point is 01:15:32 not answering questions. So either, either James- I didn't do anything wrong. I know you didn't do anything wrong. Right now, you're not telling the truth, which is doing something wrong. And she's begging police to protect the captor who she claims let her go.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Get a female pointed gun at you, yes or no? I am done speaking to you until I talk to a lawyer. I will not arrest her. I am with my children, we cut the far. I don't understand. There is no way that this is Jeremy loves me. He did believe. I agree.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Did you ever get an impression from Keith about... He wanted to leave. I'm an idiot husband that stayed around the whole time. You were so angry. He was so upset. So upset. So emotional. I'm just upset.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Now you're telling me, okay, you guys in the home now. Do you think I want her anywhere around my kids or around me at all at this point? I don't know what the next stages of this are. That's why... It's not us together. All of a sudden, it's like out of nowhere. The news breaks. Sherry Pippini arrested on charges that she allegedly lied to federal agents about being kidnapped.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Now being accused of making the whole thing up. I just think that she scammed us all. And there's understandably resentment in the Redding Hispanic community since Sherry's infamous description of the two Latina kidnappers. When Sherry Pippini was busted, we were overjoyed and relieved. There are no dangerous, ugly, masked,
Starting point is 01:17:14 gun-toting Hispanic Latino women here, wanting to abduct your children, especially if they're white. And there's the Smith family, still to this very day searching for one of their own daughters, and they had offered their sympathy and support to the Papanis. It just kind of makes a mockery out of anyone who's really lost a person. It's kind of a slap in the face.
Starting point is 01:17:38 And now it all comes crumbling down. We're outside the federal courthouse in Sacramento. What the judge actually ruled inside just now, shocked not just the defense, but the prosecution as well. The fact of the matter is there's really no law against faking your own kidnapping. What is against the law. is lying, making false statements to a federal agent. I've already told you you lying to me is a crime.
Starting point is 01:18:06 So you walk out to the store telling lies, and that's a crime. In addition to that, she's charged with mail fraud, but specifically mail fraud in using funds from the victim's compensation board for her therapy. And these are some serious charges. And with everything that she was originally facing, Sherry Pepini is looking at up to 25 years behind bars. behind bars.
Starting point is 01:18:30 And that might explain why she finally decided to come clean. Sherry Papini, the California mother who faked her own kidnapping is set to plead guilty today. There's a plea deal. She's avoiding trial entirely. As part of this agreement, she has to admit, which she did in writing and through her attorney,
Starting point is 01:18:50 that she made the whole thing up. This past April, Sherry released this statement that said in part, I'm deeply ashamed of myself for my behavior. and so very sorry for the pain that I have caused. I will work the rest of my life to make amends for what I have done. In her apology, she did not specify harm done
Starting point is 01:19:10 to the Hispanic Latino community. She did not express remorse to law enforcement who wasted incredible resources. We just spent four years of our existence investigating this case and all the resources we put into this thing. Literally thousands and thousands thousands of dollars and man hours being expended to try and solve this case.
Starting point is 01:19:32 We were so behind finding this woman as a community and then to feel like you've been misled. It's heartbreaking and you feel betrayed. You have you have to be like you why did you lie? I fully expect the judge to do the right thing and no matter what that sentence is, it will be justice and this case will be over. Inside that courtroom, the judge handing down a shocker, sentencing Sherry Pippini to 18 months in prison. That's more than twice what even the prosecution had asked for.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Sherry just looked devastated. Her attorney was holding her. It was very intense. I do think the judge was trying to make an example of her so that other people don't think they could fake their own kids. and make money off of it. Keith Pabini in this case, if there's a victim, it's him. He's had to endure a lot of humiliation.
Starting point is 01:20:38 After the sentencing, we followed up with Keith to see how he feels today, knowing that he tearfully defended a wife who made up the whole thing. And in a statement, he told us, the events of the past two months have been shocking and devastating. My current focus is on moving on and doing everything I can to provide my two children, my two children with as normal, healthy, and happy a life as possible. Keith has filed for divorce and wants full custody of the kids. If he gets it, that could be more punishment than any jail cell for Sherry.
Starting point is 01:21:13 This case, I almost want to call it a tragic comedy, but a tragic comedy has to have a happy ending, and there isn't a happy ending here. In addition to that prison time, Sherry Pippini was also ordered to pay more than $300,000 in restitution for all of the wasted resources spent on her. You've been listening to the 2020 True Crime Vault. Friday nights at 9 on ABC, you can also find all new broadcast episodes of 2020. Thanks for listening. 911, what's your emergency?
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