32 Thoughts: The Podcast - 61 on 32

Episode Date: March 4, 2022

Rick Nash joins the podcast! Jeff and Elliotte chat with the 2-time Olympic gold medalist (33:30) as the Columbus Blue Jackets get set to retire #61 to the rafters at Nationwide Arena. Nash talks about how he found out his jersey was getting retired, tell us his best Doug MacLean story as well as his proudest moment in hockey, why he decided to step away from the game, he shares a great story about his first day in New York after being traded to the Rangers, if he’d very considering being a GM, and he talks about his junior days in London, Ontario with the Knights.The guys also discuss the impressive Rangers (9:15), Jon Cooper getting ejected from Thursday nights game against the Penguins (20:20), what the Jets might do with Andrew Copp (25:10), a player (or two) who might be getting exceptional status (27:15), and Jeff apologizes for something he said on the Monday podcast — thank you Ken Daniels and Mickey Redmond (00:01)Music Outro: The Heavy Hours - Spend My MoneyListen to their debut album “Gardens” on SpotifyThis podcast is produced and mixed by Amil Delic, and hosted by Jeff Marek and Elliotte Friedman.Audio Credits: 104.5 THE TEAM, 1120 KMOX, Bally Sports Sun, Fox Sports Ohio, Sportsnet and Tampa Bay Lightning.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.

Jeff answering a question on our Monday podcast but to the point about where do the other pucks come from are they really goal number one two three the answer is no those are just random pucks they're just prop pucks more than anything else you have anything to add to the the puck phenomenon way to ruin it Jeff oh okay yes every puck is saved just in case it's special. You know what's going to happen now? Because you just did this, and this pot is so hugely influential, you're going to have people, every time someone has a four-goal game now,

like Marner did the other night, they're going to be holding up four pucks, and there's going to be people tweeting at the Maple Leafs or Marner, those are three fake pucks and one real one. Or they might be too fake and too real because they probably get the hat trick puck. Yeah, they'll get the hat trick puck. But goals one and two?

Yeah, no chance. You know, Elliot, if we had the rights to play Brenda Lee's I'm Sorry, this would be the appropriate time to play it. Want to start the podcast with an email. Evan in Yorkton, Saskatchewan submits this. Big fan of your podcast. Never miss an episode.

Thanks, Evan. It's my go-to move for blocking out all the noise from my children while I take some me time and wash dishes. We're big with the dishwashing set. This podcast is. I'm a lifelong Red Wings fan. And while I was watching the game against Carolina last night, Ken Daniels and Mickey Redmond talked extensively about each puck being

swapped out after a goal and cataloged by the game slash goal scorer and said many are then sold or given away at various events. They even mentioned that after Marner's four goal game, the Leafs requested the four pucks from each goal and the Red Wings obliged them. Therefore, according to them, Marner has his real four goal pucks, not quote unquote props. So I'm wondering, are Ken and Mickey wrong or are Jeff and Elliot wrong? Or does Detroit operate differently than other NHL buildings slash teams, which you weren't aware of? The answer is i was wrong i'll take this one all right it's good on you i'm impressed unlike elliot's okay when we had the discrepancy between who won that anaheim buffalo game when trevor

ziegers and sunny milano did their little thing which will be a highlight forever where elliot wanted to spread out the blame oh amel's to have to absorb a little bit of this too. Merrick, certainly. I mean, you're standing there, so you're guilty by association. All of this, I will pay. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You are not guilty by association. You asked the question without knowing the answer.

Come on. Anyhow, Mr. Friedman, I will take all of this one. This was my fault. I was under the impression, very much so, that knowing that officials change the pucks all game long, I was under the impression that pucks that were taken out of circulation were discarded and they weren't saved and they weren't cataloged. I was watching that Carolina-Detroit game,

and it was a heck of a game. Dylan Larkin was amazing. Moritz Seider was fantastic in this game. Robbie Fabry almost ended it a couple of different times too. But yes, when Ken and Mickey started talking about that, I said, uh-oh. Because listen, it's Ken Daniels, Mickey Redmond. Like, they know what they're talking about.

I'm pretty sure we're wrong on this one, Freejian. And by we, again, I mean me. This is mine. We say a lot of stupid things on this podcast. There is a lot of stupidity in these walls. I have to say, I don't know if I've ever gotten on something that's harmless. I don't know if I've ever gotten more correction or faster correction than I did on this. And the funny thing was, I was going to leave it to the podcast, but I got so many people

writing about it and sending me notes about it and really good qualified people sending me notes and writing me notes about it that we couldn't ignore it before then. We had to mention it on your show i wrote about it in the blog i had a referee who sent me a note i had someone from a team sent me a note to say here's what winnipeg does for example there was so much response that we could not hold it back for four days until the next podcast came out. And when I heard the Red Wings did it on their show. So good. That's when I realized that we had created a crisis that had to be addressed immediately.

I feel like Denis Lemieux. I go to box, I feel ashamed two minutes and you are free. You know what I got free agent? This was very creative. I loved it. free agent this was very creative i loved it one person actually sent me an ottawa senator's goal sent me uh the clip of it on youtube and said i have this puck because i bought it to ken and mickey's point they sell these you know goal pucks after the game at various outlets i thought that was very creative but i'm like you. I heard it fast. And you know

what? One of the things that I love about doing sports, and I don't know if this is unique to sports as opposed to entertainment or news or whatever, I always keep in the back of my mind that as I'm doing anything either here or on the radio or wherever, that there are a lot of people that are listening that know a lot more than I do. I'm convinced that it's the one area of media where your listeners know more than you do. I know that's certainly true of me. And this week, I was very much reminded of it, Elliot. Very much reminded of it.

This is just proof of what your influence is, Jeff, that when you are wrong, the order has to be restored immediately. And so for that, we thank Ken Daniels and Mickey Redmond. And everybody who wrote in. And again, special thanks to Ken Daniels and Mickey Redmond, one of the best broadcast booths

in all of hockey forever. Gentlemen, thank you. And with that, we'll kick it off. Welcome to 32 Thoughts, the podcast presented by the all-new gmc at4 lineup and i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry Okay, welcome once again to the podcast. We got the ugliness out of the way early, and we'll focus on the news. And we'll focus on Elliot Rick Nash.

We sat down with him on Thursday morning was really gracious with his time his number is going to be retired on Saturday 61 goes to the rafters at Nationwide Arena then the Blue Jackets face off against the Boston Bruins another team that Rick Nash played for alongside you know CBJ and the the New York Rangers before we get to the interview a little bit later on want to hit some news but you have a quick thought on on rick nash's career he's he's one of those players that you know we saw him like all the way from you know the uh the london knights of the ohl right until you know the very end uh in the nhl 15 season career and international resume as well what's your thoughts on rick nash and his career well i just want to say that you

should stay to the end of the podcast because after you and i are finished doing the interviewing amal hijacks it and asks what nash thinks is the best question of the entire interview and it's a good question too you're going to want to stay through this to see how these two supposedly experienced podcasters are completely shown up by their producer and Nash was a great interview he told a lot of great stories a lot of good stories my credibility has already been shattered with the pucks thing and then Amla just comes in to to finish me off but it's a wonderful like I loved Rick Daz I think you did as well like he was like such a horse he was such a beast of a hockey player i mean how many times did you see

him you know going hard to the net with guys draped on his back you know i referenced the the one goal in the interview in the the world championships in halifax up game would have been at the metro center against finland where he's got like it's like luggage draped all over his back and he still scores and And he provided highlight after highlight for a really new market. And I think that's really important for an expansion team to have a player that can single-handedly bring you out of your seats.

And even though there were a lot of lean years there, you would go watch a game in Columbus and Rick Nash would do something. Rick Nash would score. Rick Nash would do something spectacular. There was always something that Nash was doing, even though it was a lean time and Columbus, you know,

wasn't exactly, you know, winning a lot of games. He's one of the people that just reminded me and Matt Sundin was another, that just because you don't look mad all the time, doesn't mean you don't have a burning desire to win. Yeah. And you should never mistake calmness for weakness or politeness for weakness.

And I always think about that when I think about Nash. All right. You'll hear that interview coming up in a little bit. Before we get there, though, a few things I want to go over with you. Wednesday was an interesting night at Madison Square Garden. It was, you know, two really good goaltenders staring each other down. It was the return of Pavel Bushnevich to MSG, and it was a big win by the New York Rangers.

We haven't really talked a lot about them recently. Where is Elliott Friedman at on the New York Rangers? Are they more than just this all-world goaltender? So I worked Wednesday night, Toronto Buffalo, and I didn't get a chance to watch a lot of Rangers Blues. It was on the other TV, but as you know, when it's not your primary game, you're not paying attention to it as much. But on Thursday morning, I think I was probably like a lot of people watching that game. The Rangers are up two, nothing. blues score three times in a row to the goal for o'reilly

they score ryan o'reilly the captain gets the blues on the board and the blues fans at madison square garden on their feet oh he had barbachev they get it to him barbachev to the goal Score! 2-2 in New York. 1.23 to go in the second period. O'Reilly behind the net. The score! David Perron and the Blues lead 3-2. 15.8 seconds to go in the second period. You're sitting there thinking, okay, they've broken the cone of Shesterkin. For one night, they've knocked out his mojo. It's been stolen like Austin Powers, like fat bastard stole Austin Powers' mojo. And you're thinking, okay, this is not the Rangers' night. But they came back to win. O'Reilly between the circles as the crowd chants for Igor Shesterkin.

2-10 remaining in the third. And I went and I watched from the 3-2. And I wanted to see, like, did the Rangers earn this win or did something else happen? And I thought the Rangers really earned it. They could have folded at that point in the game because the Blues, like we said, had punctured it. But they came back and they controlled play and they won the game.

You know, the Blues had their moments, but I thought the Rangers really responded. I call them a comeback, kids, if this thing holds up. The Rangers have come from behind for the 18th time this season, emptying at her off the stick of Artemi Panarin. Great job at the defensive blue line by the Rangers. the defensive blue line by the Rangers and no sooner had Husso exited stage left that the puck got deposited in the blank net five three Rangers and to me that was a very important win because I think when you're a team that's driven by their goaltender like the Rangers are like Buffalo was

I remember there'd be nights where you know know, the Sabres, you know, Hasek wouldn't have a good night and the Sabres would be like, oh, well, we're not winning this one because Hasek's not there. And I thought that was a game where, you know, the Rangers said, okay, we got kind of blown up a bit here, but the rest of the team kind of came back and bailed them out. And I really liked that. Like that's the kind of game I think you find a way to win.

If you really have a chance at being a good team. And I think this Rangers group is probably not as, as good as it's going to be. I think as they get more experienced, they're going to get better. Look, I think Shesterkin has a chance to win the Hart Trophy this year, but I do think there are players on that team.

And, you know, Trouba is one of the guys I think has had a really good year. I think Miller, his regular defense partner, is coming too, and I think Trouba deserves a lot of credit for that. Like I said, I don't think this team is as good as it's going to be yet, but I think they're going to get to a point where they're seen as more than Shesterkin carrying them to victory. I do think that's going to come because I just think there's a lot of players there that I see that are getting better.

And Trouba, in a lot of ways, I think, doesn't get as much attention as some of the other guys, but I think he's a big factor there. So a couple of things there. One, to your latest point about Jacob Trouba, just me, or does it seem as if this season he's always been a physical defender, but it's almost as if he's next level. And there've been some signature highlight body checks that we're all very well aware of but it's fighting it's hitting it's 23 minutes a night it's engaged on every shift like this is some of the best hockey we've seen jacob truba play period i agree with that and adam fox uh as well it continues to be you know an elite level you know defenseman and his big ticket is

coming like the adam fox 9.5 million dollar cap hit elliot starts next season yeah that's a huge chunk of change there yeah but he deserves every penny oh i'm not saying that he doesn't deserve it i'm just saying like don't get too comfy with what your salary cap looks like because next year adam fox is going to blow it up i think that that's one of the things the Rangers are looking at. Like one of the guys I know that they were interested in was Olofsson from Buffalo. Yeah. And they didn't do it. And a major reason was that they can't handle what his situation is next year.

So I think they're really mindful of all of that. Fox, I didn't even mention because to me that goes without saying, I think everybody knows what he is. You know, when you talk about Trouba being more physical this year, look, this is a team that made changes last season because their owner didn't think they were tough enough, right? Oh, yeah. So you go out there and you get Reeves and you get Barkley Goodrow,

and those guys are tough players. They're also really good teammates. And to me, team toughness is more than just blowing guys up or fighting. Team toughness is being hard on pucks. Team toughness is about making life difficult for your opponents. I just think that this team looked at the way that their owner challenged them last year and they're a bit meaner they've got a great goaltender you know we've had some people who asked us you know can you talk a little bit about the rangers i'd like to hear what you have to think when i look at that team jeff i think they look there and they say we can win playoff series because we have shisterkin so they obviously got left a lot of

talent by the jeff gordon regime yes and chris drury has made his tweaks he has made his tweaks and i think he's going to take a big swing at the deadline this year because their division is pretty wide open i think carolina is the best team but it's wide open. But I also still look at them and I say, okay, I would do that too if I had Shusterk and I take my wax. I still think that the Rangers are a team that is still very young in their growth into a contender. I wasn't sure when the Rangers traded Pavel Buchnevich last year. I understand they did it because they were worried they couldn't fit him. But I really wondered about them trading away a player like that, and I still think it's a loss.

But the one thing I do believe is that Goudreau and Reeves have been really good for that team. And you know what, Elliot? And he was injured and hasn't been there for the majority of this season. They traded him for Sammy Blay, and if he were in the lineup right now, I'm convinced as well would be a difference maker for the Rangers. of this season you know they traded him for sammy play and if you were in the lineup right now he i'm convinced as well would be a difference maker for the rangers i think they have a big window as long as panarin continues to be an elite player i think they have a big window and i think they're

really early in it very early in it here's how i look at the rangers and we're similar because i look at teams that are, and listen, we can all remember the Jeff Gordon letter to the fan base, right? We're, we're throwing in the white towel. We're rebuilding this thing and we're coming back.

So you start to think to yourself, okay, what's the wind cycle going to look like here? When is the wind cycle starting? Where are they at on the wind cycle right now as they redevelop this team, as they rebuild this team. And I look at the Rangers this year and I'm with you. Like,

I think the Rangers are a really good team that are, I don't want to say propped up because that sounds too strong, but they're significantly enhanced by Igor Shcherkin, almost to the point where we thought the Rangers, or at least I did, I thought the Rangers would get to this point in their division two years from now. Yes, I agree. Or maybe a year from now, but because of the goalie, they're there right now.

Now, that isn't to say that they couldn't take a step back next season. We all know that rebuilds aren't linear and they don't follow one exact line. It lurches forward and it stumbles back along the process it wouldn't even surprise me if they took a step back next season but right now what this goaltender is doing is saying guys i'm going to give you a taste of how good we're going to be in two years and i'm going to give it to you right now and my suspicion is further to your point elliot that if i'm Chris Drury, the general manager of the Rangers, I'm saying

we got to capitalize on this. We are two years ahead of the program. And we don't know what this is going to be next year. We don't know what this is going to be two years down the road. But somehow, we ended up here. We have to do something right now. You're closer to it than I am. Is it a forward?

Is it a defenseman? Is it both? It could be both. I don't know, but I'm with you. I can see the Rangers looking at this and saying, listen, we're getting super elite goaltending right now. We cannot squander this. I know this isn't the plan. We thought we'd be here in a couple of years, but here we are. Let's deal with this. And as long as this guy stays healthy, Igor Shcherkin is putting on a clinic. And he almost scored a goal against Ottawa. Yes. Not too long ago, which would have just been the cherry on top of all of it.

So, yeah, I'm with you. That's where I'm at with the Rangers. And as we've made the point before, I know if you're an Islanders fan or a Philadelphia Flyers fan or a New Jersey Devils fan, you hate to hear this. But at the end of it, Elliot, the NHL is just better when the Rangers are a competitive team. Whether

you like them or you hate them, it's just better when the Rangers are competitive. It just is. It's a better NHL. And you know what, Elliot? When we talk about the Rangers, sure, we'll talk a ton about Trish Durkin and we'll talk tons about Chris Kreider, who's having a really nice season and Mika Zibanejad and Artemi Panarin, obviously, you know, someone that doesn't get the headlines that he probably deserves and he's in a really important spot. That's Ryan Strom. He's had a really nice year. And if you're a Ranger fan, you know Jim Dolan. And generally, he leaves the Rangers alone, and he's a lot harder on the Knicks. But he sent shockwaves through you last year

and said, I'm impatient. So now you've got a shot. I think they're going to go for it. So, Elliot, as we're recording this podcast on Thursday evening, John Cooper has just been ejected from the Tampa Bay Lightning-Pittsburgh Penguins game, a game that is being pretty much dominated by the Pittsburgh Penguins. So here we go. It's going to be dropped to the right to Vasilevsky. Crosby will take the drop. uh-oh John Cooper just just gave it to West Bacali and we'll see what happens here he's still barking at him so extra minutes here wow and there goes John Cooper down the tunnel. He's done for the night. He's tossed.

Wow. So Braden Point has gotten into a fight. The coach has now been tossed out. Hockey coaches are not like baseball managers. We don't see ejections very often for hockey coaches, but Wes McCauley said enough's enough, and Cooper turned around and made the walk, but not before getting a good bark in at Wes McCauley said enough's enough. And Cooper turned around and made the walk, but not before getting a good bark in at Wes McCauley.

First of all, I'd like to say this all came at the end of a scrum involving Corey Perry and Mark Friedman. And there is no question in my mind that Mark Friedman is completely innocent of anything in this altercation. And Merrick Sidlicky never did anything wrong in his career either. Now, sometimes I wonder, Cooper's a really smart guy. Pittsburgh is dominating that game. As that happened, the score was 3-1 Pittsburgh

and they were playing great. So sometimes I kind of wonder if Cooper's a bit frustrated, but he's also trying to motivate his players a bit. He knows they like challenges remember us talking about that headman game earlier this year where they only had 4d and he was like oh we're gonna win this one yeah so i kind of wonder if cooper knows that about his group and he's trying to get them going that way the funniest thing about it is wes mccauley tossed

mike sullivan out of a game five years ago. So I wonder what Sullivan's thinking watching this on the other bench. That was over a goaltender interference ruling. Sullivan didn't like the call and he lost it and he kept going actually later. And then Macaulay threw him out. The only other one I remember recently was Peter DeBoer in a 6-0 game when he was still coaching San Jose. Evander Kane got tossed and he was like ripping the referees after, and they threw him out too.

So I think that was four years ago. I think that's the last one I remember Jeff, but as I was watching that and it certainly was high quality entertainment. I was just wondering if Cooper's he's mad. He's standing up for his players and his team. But I also wonder if on some level he's saying like, guys, this is a joke and you got to come back. You know what I might've reminded him of and John Cooper has talked about this

before. I remember what happened on opening night when they lost to Pittsburgh, they laid an egg, right? Yeah. And I lost the end season Stanley cup, which I should have had for at least one day.

So that's why I know what happened. Yeah. Six, two was the final score. Now, a couple of weeks later, Tampa did beat Pittsburgh, but that was a big one. And I remember that game very well. First game for the in-season cup and you're watching Thursday night's Tampa-Pittsburgh game, and you're starting to get those memories of what happened. Because Pittsburgh come out fast on these guys. Pittsburgh was all over Tampa, specifically early. And Crosby's squad, this thing has all been Pittsburgh. And it's probably giving John Cooper or the Tampa Bay Lightning memories of opening night. And John Cooper decided, I'm going to do, or in this case, say something about it. It was a shock that we were shorthanded.

You know, that team, for some reason, they're by far the lowest penalized team in the league. I'm not sure why, but they are. And for us to go down again again to be short out of that situation it was a little frustrating but number four goes over and and uh he goes to their bench and gives them an explanation whatever he did never came to ours so now i would have would have liked courtesy there but i'm just i'm not so sure in all the years. What I said is something like he'd never heard before in his history of reffing. So I want to know what that was.

And as a head coach, you have a duty to coach the game, and at times you do get a little emotional and stuff like that. But like I said, I don't know what i invented that had me tossed out number four saw it that way i guess okay so elliot before we get to this rick nash interview and as elliot you mentioned stay tuned right to the very end where emil delich you know shows us it's a master class on how to interview an athlete. Yes. Am will we bow to you? A couple of things about the Winnipeg jets. We've talked plenty about them.

And I think a lot of us are wondering like, what's going to happen with Andrew cop through all of this. We talked about him periodically throughout the season. Is there anything new on Andrew cop? So one of the things I just kind of wondered was, would there be any chance that the Jets might change their mind here? That they might just say, you know what, we're going to make some changes and maybe we keep Andrew Cobb. You know, the problem is the Jets are notoriously quiet organization and the agent here

Overhart has just decided he's going to go quiet on this one too but i don't sense that it's changed you know because we had a long conversation about them last week and i yeah it got me thinking is there any possibility here they say okay the way this year's gone we want to keep them because we might make some other changes i just don't get that sense that's going to be possible. I don't get any sense there's been any more start of a negotiation or anything like that that makes me believe that there could be an about face and Kopp could stay in Winnipeg. I just, sometimes you hear things. I'm not hearing anything that indicates that that's going to happen. So, you know, I think he's going to be pretty coveted.

And I think Colorado is looking for a center. It's one of the few things they don't do great. It doesn't always matter. You can never have too many centers. And the other thing too is, you know, if you think you're going to lose Cadre to free agency, it just gives you a chance to look, see at a

guy who you might be interested in any way on the market. It's the kind of thing i could see colorado trying to do because i think he could help them for this year and potentially in the future so i'm kind of wondering about that one you know what i'm curious about elliot i'm always curious what happens when you put something out that you think is just a nice little piece maybe you feel good piece something that has some positivity attached to it and you get an avalanche back now on television on hockey night in canada last year that would have been the situation with the uh the toronto marlies sam

gagne and john tavaris taking control of that team. And I could tell like right away, oh boy, Elliot's going to hear about this one because these are my people, Elliot. I know these people and I know what you're going to get and how much of a storm that caused. I was really intrigued to see you write about Michael Misha under the umbrella of the exceptional status situation in the Ontario Hockey League. Now, it's believed that he's applied. It's also believed

that William Moore, who's his teammate with the Mississauga Senators of the GTHL, has applied as well. Ryan Robruck as well, the London Junior Knights, there's a belief that he's applied to but i'm curious what was the feedback you got when you put misha's name and here's why there's one scout that sends me video of every single game he plays i have every single mississauga

senators yeah and always like a day later it's like did you see misha did you see misha did you see misha these are people that i talked to these are friends this is like my life right like minor hockey in ontario what's the feedback that you got after you put michael misha's name out there as is predictable i got hammered uh don't venture into minor hockey that's once again i'm reminded of that no but you get a hammer like what was the nature of like people that wrote to you like no one's no one's going to dispute that michael misha deserves no but it's almost like there's anger by omission well if you write about him you got to write about this kid or that kid and that's exactly what happened you know i didn't

realize it was the gthl top prospects game the other night and i called someone who happened to be there i said give me a note and uh he goes uh well last couple shifts this misha looked really good so i was like oh okay i'll just put that in i didn't even realize stewie was coaching in it he he told me about that so yeah i just figured i'd throw it in there ah we'll give a young kid a plug what's the bad thing about that and it was bad because i got what about more what about more that's his teammate too come on free you should know this you're dividing the dressing room and then someone actually called me and i said he's from london he's not playing in the greater toronto hockey league prospects game like give me a break but this person was actually explaining to me that he thinks of all three of those kids robrecht is the one who is most deserving he doesn't know how many will get it but he thinks of the three of them

robrecht is the one who's most ready for it i think him and misha both get it which would be unique because that's never happened yeah it would be the first time, right? John Tavares, but it's always one at a time. John Tavares, Aaron Ekblad, Connor McDavid, Sean Day, Shane Wright, in the queue, Joe Valeno, in the Western Hockey League, Connor Bedard. There have been players that have been turned down. They never announced the players that applied, and they never obviously announced the players

that got turned down, but John McFarlane got turned down, Graham Clark, Tag Bertuzzi, who is Todd Bertuzzi's son, I believe, got turned down, but John McFarlane got turned down. Graham Clark, Tag Bertuzzi, who is Todd Bertuzzi's son, I believe got turned down. And I believe that Jack Hughes got turned down as well when he applied for exceptional status into the OHL a season early. So I was all too delighted to read that note, Elliot, just because I knew what was coming next. I knew what you were getting next.

Before we go to Rick Nash, I just want to recognize the fantastic opening faceoff tonight between Chicago and Edmonton where Nicholas Jolmerson dropped the puck. Duncan Keith took the draw for the Oilers and he got a video tribute later against Jonathan Taves. And Jeff, what is the etiquette when you have a ceremonial face-off? The home team wins. Well, Duncan Keith didn't make it that easy. He decided that he was going to give Jonathan Taves a fight. Like Taves wasn't ready for it either.

He goes down and then Keith leaned right in and tried to knock it away from him. And then Taves, a fight. Like, Taves wasn't ready for it either. He goes down, and then Keith leaned right in and tried to knock it away from him, and then Taves battled back. You know, Jolmerson, anybody who listens to this in the Chicago area, you know how good a player Jolmerson was. Oh, boy. You know, I will say this, that that trade happened

on the day of the draft in Chicago, and Joel Quenville that day was giving a speech or a lecture or a, I don't know what they call it at the, uh, coach's conference. And he's, he stormed out of it when he heard John Morrison got traded. Yeah. That's how much he felt that John Morrison meant to the Blackhawks, like just a pro who threw his body in front of everything. And that was a hilarious opening face-off tonight.

I remember Elliot being at an OJHL game once. This was early in the season. Might've even been a season opener where the captain for the visiting team, like not just tried to aggressively win the face-off, but like slapped the puck into the corner, and it led to a brawl. It was one of the wildest things I ever saw in the OJ.

Welcome to junior hockey in Canada, folks. But that is a really nice touch, having those two take the face-off. As Chalmerson drops it, he was a hell of a player. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Oh, man. We'll hit a break. When we come back, you'll hear from Rick Nash, number 61.

The number goes up to the Raptors on Saturday at Nationwide Arena before the Blue Jackets face off against the Boston Bruins. You will hear by Rick Nash. Rick, first of all, congratulations. Number 61 goes to the Rafters. This isn't new for you. This happened in June with the London Knights. We'll get there.

But when you were told, like, what's going through your mind? We've all seen the video at this point at what point do you think hold on a second here this might be about me yeah i didn't catch on to it for a while you know it was one of those meetings that i was told where the owner was gonna welcome the uh the new players and the returning players to have a good season and so on and so forth and i was trying to stand at the back of it because I didn't really, I've been through a lot of those and didn't really need to be the center point of it. And Todd Chirac kept pushing me forward and I had cameras following me,

which they told me that I was getting followed for a day in the life of a front office job, retired player. So they had a good hook in it. You know, it was fun. And the emotions that went through me when they first told me was incredible. That's one of the things that I kind of heard a lot of Rick is that you've always been a guy who likes to be under the radar. You don't like attention on you. And, you know, some of your friends were even kind of laughing about how your face looked in that video and,

you know, how you're going to feel on Saturday night when all this attention is on you, when you obviously you appreciate it, but you don't always like it. And they kind of laughed about that whole dichotomy of happy to be honored, but not so thrilled to be in the spotlight. but not so thrilled to be in the spotlight. Yeah, I think you're right, Elliot. You know, I feel like I've played kind of my career that way of, you know, not wanting to be the guy up front and center. And obviously a moment like this kind of brings that out. You know, it'll be difficult, but I'm going to try to enjoy it

and try to make sure that, you know, it's a big moment for the organization, for the fans, for the city too, with it being the first number. But if I had my choice, I would probably be up in the nosebleeds at the top section watching something like this. You know, one of the great stories I heard was, was it the day after you were drafted and the story about the hostess in the

diner where you went for breakfast? Can you tell that story? Are you talking about the one that was in Columbus when we? Yes. Yes. Yeah. So how I remember it, I'm sure Todd Chirac might remember it a bit different, but he picked me up and we were doing a media tour and it was my first time in Columbus.

And we walked into a Bob Evans, I believe, to grab a coffee before we started circulating. And I think I remember that the waitress that was serving us mentioned something about, oh, you guys have blue jacket shirts on. Didn't you guys just draft a new first overall pick? And it was tough to tell her that I was standing right in front of her ordering a coffee. Speaking of the draft, I mean, your draft day story is, and I remember the draft very well, and it was Doug McClain and Rick Dudley getting together to do a trade so Columbus could grab you first overall.

When you woke up that morning, where did you think you were going? Yeah, so that morning, I kind of had no idea, to be honest with you. I know for me and Joe Resnick, where we kind of wanted to be was Columbus because we knew that they had the defenseman in Rusty Klesla, they had the goalie in Pascal Leclerc, and they didn't draft a forward yet. Obviously, Atlanta had Heatley and Kovalchuk, and Florida was set on Bowmeister from everything you heard. So everything that me and Joe Resnick was hearing was that Philly or Vancouver

were going to try to jump up somewhere and grab a spot and try to get me. So in the morning, I was thinking Philly or Vancouver. Now, the night before before I met with Doug and we had a great meeting and I kind of expressed to him how, you know, I thought Columbus was a great fit and he expressed to me that he wanted me. Then that's where kind of our stories change, change routes a little bit the way we tell it. So, you know, I had no idea, but those were probably the two teams that I was thinking at the time. When did you know? Great question. I honestly knew about five to seven minutes on the clock before Columbus got put on the

clock before the draft started when Gino Retta came running up to me. And I remember I was sitting there with my family and he said, you won't believe this, but Columbus just swapped picks for the first overall. And then I knew right then and there that Doug worked his magic to get me. Now, what is your best Doug McLean story? We worked with him, so we saw a lot of them. Oh, boy. But what is the best Doug McLean story that doesn't get us all fired?

I have one great one that I was saving that I was thinking of telling Saturday night. I'll share it telling Saturday night. I'll share it with you guys. We were playing my first year, and we were playing against Nashville. And you remember the D-man Zedlicky? Eric Zedlicky, yeah. Yeah, cross-checked me in the O-zone. And I turned around, and we dropped the gloves, and we started fighting.

And I believe it was my first NHL fight, possibly. The referees are going to let the Blue Jackets have a little leeway here. started fighting and I believe it was my first NHL fight possibly. Zydlinski's head with the right. He doesn't want to throw to his face because he's wearing a shield and he couldn't really damage his hand. Now he's got his helmet off. He's free to throw them. And he's getting that hand free. The leading goal scorer in the NHL. And he knows how to throw. And there was about three minutes left

in the first period or second period, whatever it was. They kicked the guys out because you got a five-minute major so you just go to the room and i went back to timmy leroy's office to uh to watch the rest of the period and i heard a door slam and then i heard another door slam and then i heard footsteps coming back there and it was doug mclean standing there and he goes what are you thinking fighting and i'm like well you know what happens in hockey and we were pushing each other and had our differences and he and he said i don't pay you

to fight i got other guys on the ice to fight and he stormed off and said don't be fighting and i don't know when my next fight was but it wasn't any time in the near future what was uh i i am curious because listen i miss working with d. I think Elliot misses working with Doug. He was, not only was he talented on the air, but even just sitting in the green room and watching games, he was fantastic and a great storyteller. We really miss him. What was he like as a manager for you? Yeah, Doug was an interesting guy because I honestly have this, not argument, but this debate with a lot of people around Columbus of what he has done for the city and for the organization. He was the face before

there was even an arena or there was a team. So he kind of created a lot of energy and a lot of excitement around the city for hockey that Columbus isn't really known, wasn't known as a should say as a hockey town as him as a president and GM I think he did a great job in in the early years and I think you know a lot of people around here will debate it but I don't think that he he got the true applause for what he did for this franchise so as a manager I mean he was great he was always honest with his players and what he expected on the ice the other too, is you had a really good relationship with the original owner of the blue jackets.

It was John Henderson McConnell. And I guess everybody called him Johnny Mac. That was the way he was referred. And, you know, when I was asking around for stories about you, Rick, one of the things that people talked about was his funeral.

And they said that you gave a wonderful speech and you talked about the playoffs. And they said that it was almost fitting that the next year was the first time Columbus made the playoffs. And I was just wondering if you could take us back to that because I guess you came back from overseas for it. And the speech you gave was, people just said it was beautiful. Yeah, that was an interesting situation too, just because we were at the World Championships. I think it was in Halifax that year. And we got the call that Mr. Mack passed away. And, you know, there was, I think, two of us on the team.

And Ken Hitchcock was coaching, so we all made our way back to Columbus for the memorial and those kind of things. I was asked to speak because I had a pretty good relationship with him from hanging out with him at the arena and at his golf course. He always just wanted us to work hard and give the fans like a great product on the ice so we i ended up speaking that year and i was probably a little above my head promising him uh watching from heaven a playoff berth and i'm telling you that that season just everything seemed to go right it seemed like he had his hand in it and he was helping us along the way. But he was an incredible man and an incredible family and their family still own the team here.

And I truly believe that they would do anything to try to bring a championship here. Doug McLean would always tell us the stories of your second contract and how important it was. I mean, listen, it's set up a lot of players right now. Like the second contract now is a big thing for players. And you were one of, if not the first, to really ring right now. The second contract now is a big thing for players, and you were one of, if not the first, to really ring the bell on that second contract. Doug, as you know, loved you as a player. What was the McConnell family like, though, to deal with on things like contracts? Because obviously, it's all going to go through the late John McConnell. Yeah, so it's funny because I kind of see the other end of it now before you know i i got to

give a lot of credit to uh joe resnick it's funny when you talk about that kind of bridge deal thing that wasn't really a thing and then you know the guys after whether it was perry or getzlaff and and all these different contracts were kind of modeled after that one so you know it's credit to joe on doing that now dealing with the jackets on those situations, it was always a healthy dialect between all the different parties. I can truly say there was never really pushback or arguments or situations where one side was considering leaving the talks. They were always upfront and honest,

and I think that's what made it so easy for players to play for them and give them their best. You know what I remember? I was watching it last night too. The look on your face when you scored against Chicago, the point that got you into the playoffs. And you talked about, you try to keep a lot of your feelings and emotions bubbling under the surface, but there was no way you were stopping that one that night. Yeah, you're, you're right. I mean, it's, I love, they have a still photo of it that you can still kind of see around the rink or, or online and, and you could just see kind of the, the excitement and the, uh, the relief almost. And it was one of those feelings that I've only felt a few times in my career. And, you know, one being 2010 Olympics when Sid scored the goal. And the other one is when we

finally tied the game to clinch that playoff spot. It was just a feeling like the whole weight of the world was off your shoulders. I don't remember your reaction to Sid. What was it? Do you remember what you did? Well, I think I was the first one to the pile from the bench, if you watch that. But, you know, we talk about downplaying, and obviously after Torino finishing seventh or sixth or whatever it was, and then coming to your home country and basically needing to win gold,

there was no other color that Canadians wanted. And, you know, we downplayed the pressure quite a bit through the tournament. But I'll tell you, I remember everyone sitting in that room after that game and there was more of a sense of relief before the celebration started. Correct me if I'm wrong. You played with Jonathan Taves and Mike Richards.

That was your line for 2010. Like going into that tournament, as you're talking to your teammates, talking to your coaching staff, like what was your line in your estimation designed to do? Like what was your goal out there every night? Yeah, it was,

it was funny and I can relate it to a meeting that Steve Iserman started with the Vancouver Olympics and he started with the Sochi Olympics. And the first thing was, was check your ego at the door. You know, there's a lot of captains here. There's a lot of guys that play power play, PK, top minutes. And he goes, that's what this is not about. You're going to have to play different roles in different situations in order to win a gold medal. So when I got put with Jonathan and Mike on the same line, it was a shutdown role. I mean, we played against Parise and the gold medal. We played against Ovechkin and the quarters, I believe it was.

So it was different. You know, you were playing defense first and you weren't taking too many chances offensively. But the thing that stuck was check your ego at the door. You're going to do whatever it takes to win gold. And that's the bottom line. That must've been a very difficult thing for you to do is check your ego at the door, Rick. Yeah. You know how big mind is Elliot, right? So there's so many questions I have to ask you. And here's a couple. Number one, someone said to me that there's no way that you and I would ever be able to get along because I'm the biggest slob alive and nobody had a neater locker than Rick Nash.

Are you a need freak? I am. I mean, I like to keep it organized and keep it neat and kind of know where everything is. So I feel like we've still got along over the years though. Because I'm wondering, is there something that had to be somewhere? I've learned that people are really interested in these kinds of things. Is there something that had to be somewhere in

your stall or on your desk, for example, when you're working and things like that? It was funny in my stall. I seem to always get bad lace bite. And if people don't know what lace bite is, it's, it's where you kind of tie the knot in your skates right across the uh front of your ankle where it kind of bends there and i would get really bad lace bite and i've tried so many different things like bunga pads and foam

tying your skates looser leaving the hole undone basically everything and finally i came across that uh if i didn't wash my socks and they didn't become tight again, so they would be loose when I put them on, it would kind of help with the lace bite. So I used to put my socks in a certain area in my stall. And sometimes when, you know, if I got traded or went to Olympics or, you know, one of the other trainers didn't notice and they took them and washed them. I could honestly tell you that was the one thing that I had everything laid out perfect for my lace bite in my neat stall. See, I like that kind of stuff. I love hearing about the superstitions and the idiosyncrasies, but the other one I wanted to ask is about when you finished playing in 2018,

you had opportunities to play. And I know Vegas was after you and I heard Toronto was after you, but one thing I didn't really know the depths of until this week was after you and I heard Toronto was after you but one thing I didn't really know the depths of until this week was that you almost went back to Columbus and how close did it come and did you think for a time there that you would play again for the Blue Jackets? Yeah that's a good one because you know growing up a diehard Leaf fan it would be pretty cool to wear the blue and white maple leaf and you know always always being a huge fan you always think about that once you get to the nhl what would it be like to play for them but um yeah i had a i had a weird not a weird period but

a kind of an off period after july 1st there when i became a ufa and met with a few different teams and columbus being one of them and had very good talks with yarmo and we kind of came met with a few different teams and Columbus being one of them and had very good talks with Yarmou and we kind of came up with a plan and in a situation that would bring me back to Columbus to play some more I asked him to give me some time so I can talk to the doctors and and meet with you know sit down with my family and talk to them and you know after a few days we figured out what was important to me and that obviously being my health. So I called Jarmo and thanked him and said it would have been great to continue on. But, you know, after the amount of years and the amount of concussions I went through,

I just figured it was time to pick my family and health over hockey. I did not know that story. No one can argue it either it's the right choice no and that is completely the right choice and you know no one's listen you've the the body of work that you laid before everybody before that speaks for itself and um you know whether it's you know winning the rocket richard trophy at 19 years of age uh which is youngest player ever you know you mentioned the world championships a couple of moments ago, and I can remember that goal. I think we all can

against Finland. Anssi Salmela was draped all over your back, and you sort of shrugged him off and still tucked it past Niklas Backstrom. The Arizona Coyote, the then Phoenix Coyotes goal, which is a thing of beauty as well. Pekka, outlet pass for Rick Nash.

Nash now tries to split the defense and walk in. Nice move. Another nice move. He scores! is a thing of beauty as well. Holy moly! Nash's third point of the night. Wow! Second goal of the evening. That's the best goal I've seen Rick Nash score in his career. He takes a chip pass inside, outside on the defenseman again, and then a halt and nothing left. Wow! A bound and determined Rick Nash. Take a look at this from ice level.

Remember, it was Rick Nash. I know you say you're pretty humble, and it sounds like you're very humble. Like you're, you know, you don't want to big yourself up, but you've like, when you look at your career, Rick, like you did some amazing things with teams, not just in the NHL, but also internationally as well. well. I'm curious, what do you take the most pride in from whether it's an individual moment, whether it's a team moment, because, you know, you're given hockey fans, you know, over the course of your, your 15 seasons in the NHL and internationally as well, you gave fans a lot of reasons to get excited. What do you take pride in? That's a tough one to answer just because you, you play in a team sport and, you know, everything's about the team and, you know, it's all these cliches that no one's bigger than the organization and all that stuff and I truly believe that as for personally I mean I take a lot of pride in what my former teammates say about me

I hope they thought I was a good teammate and someone that you know went to battle each night with them and and tried to compete the hardest to win games. I take a lot of pride in what I did with Team Canada, whether it was world championships, world juniors, under-18s, Olympics. You play in the NHL, but I can say there's nothing like putting on a Hockey Canada jersey and playing for your nation. It seems to be always at the highest level

and created some great moments and great games. You know, it was fun in New York when we were going to the finals and, you know, got there so close. I take a lot of pride in that, even though it didn't turn out the way we wanted it to. But I always put the team success higher than my own, but those are a few things that I kind of value. I've always wondered, there's always people there that we don't know that are huge parts of your existence, your success.

I mean, obviously your family, your wife, Jessica, your children, but I'm wondering when the number goes up on Saturday night, is there anybody else in and around Columbus that you're going to be thinking of and saying this person was critical to my success publicly or privately here? Yeah, well, I think the obvious ones come out first, like my parents and everything they've been through to get me where I am and always give me the best opportunity to succeed.

I think another one is Joe Resnick. I've had a working relationship with Joe since I was 14. And, you know, those were the days with Gord Kirk and, and Stelic and Robbins. And I know Elliot, you know, all them pretty well. And I don't have no one me since I was probably that age or about me. So, you know, those guys sometimes don't get the recognition that they deserve. You know, agents don't really can get a bad rep, but I'm telling you, Joe has always looked out for me on the ice and more importantly, off the ice.

But in and around Columbus, I think I value, you know, obviously a lot of people that work here and the people that have been here since day one, I'm hoping to recognize during my speech. It's an individual number going up. But for the organization, for the people that have seen this place since there wasn't the arena here, to think that we've come this far and in the history, we are finally putting a number up.

I want to make sure that those people are valued. One of the things that I learned from becoming a player to front office is how much goes into it from scouts to sponsor sales to ticket sales. When you're a player, you just kind of worry about what's going on on the ice. And I truly have a new appreciation for everything that goes on in the office. You know, Todd Chirac, I think would probably be one of those guys. And I just know that the media relations people, they've got the toughest job because half the time we're yelling at them because, you know, we want to talk to someone or they're trying to protect a player. And the other half of the time there's people in the organization saying, you know, why

do I have to deal with all this stuff from outside? And they're trying to get you to at least talk. And I know Todd, he thinks the world of you and he's been there a long time. And, you know, sometimes the relationship between a player and a person in that position, you know, what that's like for you too. It's a great point because those guys can never win, right? Someone's, someone's always mad at them. It seems. And funny enough, me and Todd spent the day yesterday traveling around to the couple radio stations and news stations. And we were just reminiscing on when we did it with the original story we opened with, with the Bob Evans coffee.

And we were just here 20 years later doing it again. It was just funny. But I think you're right. Those guys don't get recognized, don't get appreciated enough. don't get recognized, don't get appreciated enough. And that's why I kind of brought up the organization, really enjoying Saturday night, because everyone who's part of it is part of that event. And it's tough to express into words or into, you know, different situations to recognize how great they are. But I'm glad you brought that up. Rick, last one for me. And, you know, the last couple of days as, you know, Saturday gets closer and closer,

I've gone back and watched a lot of your videos, your highlights and old pictures as well, specifically of you with the London Knights. Your number has been retired there. You're one of the legendary London Knights and an organization that's produced many. And, you know, this morning I was online just looking at image search and found one of you with the London Knights and God, you just look so young. And I'm saying, okay, I'm going to talk to Rick Nash a little bit later on today. And here he is, so he might've been 17 years old, I think at that point. And after having gone through everything

that you've gone through in your career, in your life, I know it's a cliched question, but if you could talk to that kid, what does Rick Nash say now to that kid playing junior hockey with London? It's probably a harder question to answer. And I've, uh, I've thought about it before and there's, there's a fine line. So right away, I would say, try to enjoy it more, not take it so serious because what every veteran says to a young guy coming into the league is enjoy it more, not take it so serious because what every veteran says to a young guy coming into the league is enjoy it because it goes fast. And when you're young and 18, 17, whatever it is, you're just like, yeah, right. I got a lot of years to play, but the next thing you know, you're, you're retired and it's over. So the question that I kind of asked myself is if I

could have enjoyed it more and taken more of it in and, you know, wasn't so serious and, you know, just enjoyed living my dream of being an NHL hockey player and everything that comes along with it, would have I had the same success? And would we be here talking today about my number going up in the rafters? So that's kind of where I sit with that. And if it's the one thing that I could have said, I would have said, just make sure you sit back and try to slow things down and enjoy it because before you know it, it's going to be over. But then I asked myself, would we be sitting here talking if I did?

Two more for me, Rick. Number one, will you be a GM someday? I hope so. I mean, I think that's why I want to take the long, you know, road of going through all these different areas, you know, within an organization to learn and try to be the best person I can once I work my way up there. I'm not in any rush. I have a young family, and I'm enjoying watching them grow. But I truly believe that I'm learning from one of the best in Jarmo Kekalainen. And I look at him as a mentor and, you know, I'm putting all this work in, you know, I don't think I want to stay in development for the rest of my career. I'm a young guy, but, uh, you know, I'm here to learn right now and

grow within the Columbus Blue Jackets, if that makes sense. It sure does. And I do think Kekalainen is an excellent person to learn from. No question about it. Now, this is a Columbus day, but there's one New York Rangers story I want to ask you about. And it's about your first day there, and it's Henrik Lundqvist and Alex Rodriguez. What is this story? Yeah, that's a good one.

I'm impressed, Elliot. You've dug around for this one. I don't think I've ever told this one publicly. Yeah, you got me smiling here. So I got traded to New York and I went in right away, my wife and I, and we did some media tour stuff, cruising around the city with JR, legendary JR that everyone knows. Yeah, John Rosasco. Yep. Exactly. And we continued on our day, and Henrik Lundqvist invited us over for a drink at his place.

So we went up to his penthouse apartment, and, you know, a kid from Brampton has been playing in Columbus for the last 10 years. I haven't seen many other athletes or celebrities, and walk in, and there's A-Rod standing right there and meet A-Rod. And, you know, we had a fun night in New York City. And for me, growing up in Toronto around Original Six, where hockey is number one, I don't think I ever crossed paths with a maple leaf growing up. I mean, it wouldn't even be a question that you could get to see a maple leaf around.

a Maple Leaf around. So for me going to New York and then that being my first night in New York, sitting in a penthouse apartment, overlooking the whole city, having a few drinks with the King and A-Rod, I mean, that was one of those moments where you felt like you were in the NHL. That's awesome. Listen, that's a fantastic story. Rick, listen, this is going to be such a special night before Columbus faces off against the Boston Bruins. Number 61 goes high to the rafters. It's going to be a special night. And listen, I'll give you the same advice you'd give to a 17-year-old Rick Nash, and that is enjoy it. Soak it all in. You deserve it. You were a fantastic hockey player. And that's going to be one of many post-career accolades on the horizon for you. Enjoy Saturday, Rick. Thanks so much for doing this. I appreciate you guys doing this.

Those are some great questions and some great digging by you guys and some great stories. And I can't appreciate you guys enough for having me on. Thank you. Thanks so much for doing it, Rick. Of course. No problem. Hey, Rick.

I grew up in London, so I watched you play when I was a little boy. I watched all the games at the Ice House. And your jersey retired at the Budweiser Garden, which was John Badd Center back then. But you never got to play there. Not many people remember what the Ice House was all about. So could you tell people what was the Ice House and what are some of your fondest memories playing there for two years? You know what?

That's a great question, and no one's ever asked me. And when my Jersey got retired in London, I did a quick three or four minute speech. And I brought that point up. I said, wow, like this is this is a beautiful building. This is the first time I'm ever on the ice at the I think it was John Labatt's or Budweiser Gardens, whatever they called it at the time that year. And I said, this is, this is incredible, but I am not upset about it. I feel bad for every single London night player that didn't get a chance to play in the, the ice house. So that was a little story that I told that, I mean, that, that rink was awesome. The playoff series were incredible. I remember when we beat Plymouth.

I think Plymouth was ranked third in the CHL, and we just snuck in on the eighth spot in the Western Conference. And we took down the third-place CHL team with Cole Jarrett, Stephen Weiss maybe, Pekashawa. They were loaded. And the ice house was incredible, the atmosphere. It was an old barn with a lower roof. Right outside the visiting room, there was a door outside,

and we'd make sure our security guards would keep those doors propped open to keep the visiting locker room freezing cold. Then we went on to play Erie that next series, who ended up winning the Mem Cup with Brad Boyce, Koliakovo. There's a few other great players in that team. And I think they swept every series and won the Mem Cup except our series. And I remember talking to Brad after that, and he said you guys were the team that we were worried about the most.

And we took them to six games. So the London Ice House or the London Gardens, whatever you want to call it, had a lot to do with that playoff success. It's an amazing place. It really was. The smell when you walked in, it was unbelievable. It was so good.

I love watching games here. I love watching you play as a 16-year-old too. It was amazing. Well, thank you. That was a special place. You're right. No one ever asked me about that, so I'm glad you asked me. Awesome.

Thanks, Rick. Our producer with the best question of the interview. Maybe Amal should be doing the interviews. What are we doing here? I don't know if you can talk to A-Rod one. That caught me off guard. Thanks so much, Rick. And have a great weekend with your family, okay?

Okay. I appreciate you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Be well, Rick. See you. We really hope you enjoyed that interview. Congratulations to Rick Nash and a special thanks to Todd Schrock and the Columbus Blue Jackets organization for making Rick Nash available for the podcast. Taking us out today is cincinnati-based

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