32 Thoughts: The Podcast - Cancel Your Plans This Weekend

Episode Date: May 13, 2022

7s are wild this weekend. Jeff and Elliotte recap all the actions from the Toronto-Tampa series (1:00) to the exciting finish between the Oilers-Kings (9:20). They also discuss some of the physical play between Boston-Carolina (13:20 ), wonder if we’ll see Sidney Crosby back in the lineup (25:00), the confidence we've seen from the Flames (29:00), who has the edge in the Capitals-Panthers series (27:30), and what we might see from Minnesota this off-season as they were eliminated from the Stanley Cup playoffs by the St. Louis Blues (15:30).Music Outro: Jesse Roper - HooksListen to our 32 Tracks playlist on Amazon Music. All the tracks you hear on this podcast during the playoffs are featured there.This podcast is produced and mixed by Amil Delic, and hosted by Jeff Marek and Elliotte Friedman.Audio Credits: KFAN FM 100.3 and Sportsnet.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.

Carolina five to three is the final score here. Brad Marchand, outstanding. Jeremy Swayman. What's going on, Elliot? I'm sorry. There's a guy in front of me driving really slowly and somebody got really pissed off. Was that person you? No, there was a guy behind me and he's not wrong. Like this person in front of me should not be on the highway. Sevens are wild on Saturday. Welcome once again to the 32 Thoughts podcast presented by the all-new GMC AT4 lineup,

Carcast style. Once again, Elliot driving home from the studio after another wild night of Stanley Cup playoff action. We have three closeout games on Saturday. We have some game sixes where we may see closeouts or series extended on Friday and we say goodbye to the Minnesota Wild.

We'll begin though with the early game on Hockey Night in Canada, Elliot. And that is the Tampa Bay Lightning stave off elimination for us at game seven. We'll see that on Saturday against the Toronto Maple Leafs. Wide brush thoughts on what we saw on Thursday night.

We can title this podcast. How am I supposed to sleep after this too? The sequel. That Toronto Tampa Bay game was a great game. The overtime was phenomenal. The series has been fantastic. The Toronto Maple Leafs have proven to me this year, this year,

they are as good as Tampa is. And at five on five, they might even be better. But you've got to win the series. And look, they were down to nothing again. When the Tampa scored the second goal, I joked with Kevin and Kelly and Ron, I said, they've got them right where they want them. Not really thinking that was actually going to happen. But they took over the game and they were up three to two. And in overtime, the overtime was phenomenal. Vasilevsky beat them. And, you know, I wasn't crazy about tweeting about how I felt about the officiating and

things like that, but I wanted to like consider my thoughts and really kind of formulate my proper opinion and Jeff what I didn't like was the standards so obviously changed like I think this is a series that's been played a certain way and then it really changed in game six and I'm not convinced that's really fair to the group maybe what has to happen jeff is that you just assign officials to playoff series and we talked about chris cutford noticed it and we noticed it in the first game there were 11 penalty minutes in the first period three minors in the major to clifford in the next three games there were eight penalty minutes in the first period three minors in the major to clifford in the next three games there were eight penalty minutes in the first period in game five there were 14 there were seven minors

in the first period and i just thought that the way that that game was so different look the players can decide do they like it do they not like it but i just can understand how they would find it weird and different and i think toronto wants a five on five series i think they would be happy with a five on five series but only one of the calls really bothered me and it was the one on conf because i don't like head snaps and kelly and kevin were very philosophical about it when we talked about after the game. They're like, you know, that happens. You may not like it that a referee gets fooled or an official gets fooled,

but that happens, and you've got to get used to that. I don't know. I don't like blaming officiating. I really don't. On this game, I just felt it wasn't in sync with the rest of the series and not convinced if i was a player that i would have been happy with that can i make a quick point about head snaps yeah this is like again we always use the example of jazz i can't describe it but i know it when i see it you can know when it's too much,

but the automatic head snap, I understand. I understand foot snapping his head when there's a stick near his shoulder. I would do the same thing. I think it's a natural instinct when there is a stick anywhere near your head, you snap it away. That doesn't mean that you're embellishing.

That doesn't mean that you're trying to draw a penalty. I firmly believe that that is a natural reaction any human being would have if they get a stick around their shoulder or around their neck. Your natural inclination is to pull your face away from it. That's why I have a hard time with the idea of, you know, looking at it and going, you know, pixel by pixel and frame by frames of Pruder style and saying, aha, look, that's embellishment. He's trying to draw a penalty. Honestly, Elliot, I think that's a natural reaction. I really do.

I don't think that's a bad argument, Jeff. I really don't. I don't think that's a bad argument, Jeff. I really don't. And that's why, you know, for example, in the late game, we talked about the penalty on Gronstrom that led to the 2-1 goal for LA. I always ask people like Kevin and Kelly how they feel, because I don't know what it's like to have a cross check in the back. And I think in a lot of ways, I don't necessarily think you're wrong. But I also do know that a lot of people who've played the game for a long time really hate that. Really hate it. And I always tend to defer to that kind of thinking. That they believe in a lot of cases, it's more embellishment than not. I remember Thomas Placanitz, who was a great player, got that reputation as a head-snapper.

And he stopped getting calls. And this was around 2014, I would think it was. I think I remember because I think it was the last year we had the rights at CBC. And he had a game where he got a couple penalties, and then they stopped calling

him on him and i remember i asked around like i think i had the same opinion that you did and people just said like in hockey they see this more of an embellishment than a natural reaction so maybe in normal humans it's your way and in hockey it's this. That's the best I can counter. But I know it makes a lot of people crazy. I know it doesn't. Like I said, I'm not one who likes to rip officials a lot because, look, I make mistakes. They make mistakes.

It's a fast game. I just found that it was weird with the tenor of the series. And I can understand why that would frustrate people. So we have a game seven here. If you're the Toronto Maple Leafs, if you're the Tampa Bay Lightning, how are you feeling about your team heading into Saturday, Elliot? You know, like I said, I do think this Toronto team has proven that this year's Lightning, it's a coin toss.

It is an absolute coin toss between these two teams. They are evenly matched and they are just as good as each other. I think if you're Toronto, there's no reason to be nervous in game seven. They might be, but there's no reason to be. They've proven they're just as good as they are. They shouldn't lose because of nerves, for example, if they lose. And I'll tell you something else. I never thought I would have believed going into this series. Jack Campbell has proven

that he can look Vasilevsky in the eye and battle him puck for puck. To me, honestly, this game is a total, total toss-up. A total toss-up. The only thing I don't like is I don't think Toronto should get in the habit of spotting the 2-0 leads. Probably not the wisest thing to do.

You tempt fate too often when you do that. Well, here becomes a question, too. And after we do this, we'll bounce around a couple of the other series. And I do want to get to what's next for the minnesota wild here but given how the maple leaves have played against the tampa bay lightning given how they've demonstrated they can hang with the two-time defending stanley cup champion and to your point are not just right there with them but probably as good a team as tampa is is that good enough right now that the Maple Leafs organization and everybody who feels their job may be in jeopardy

can withstand a loss now? Has this team shown enough that people who may think that with an opening round loss, they may be walking out of the building with a pink slip? Can they now withstand a loss? the opening round loss, they may be walking out of the building with a pink slip. Can they now withstand a loss? The only loss I think you can't withstand is 11-0. If you lose another game like this, I think you'd be crazy to fire people.

I agree. If you lose, you're losing to the two-time defending Stanley Cup champions in a seventh game. And unless you go up there and you throw an absolutely non-competitive performance, the answer's no. They're just as good as Tampa is. To the other series. Let's get to Edmonton, Los Angeles. This one was awkward.

This one had a comeback by the Los Angeles Kings, courtesy of Sean Dursey and Carl Grunstrom. And in the end, it was Tyson Berry who establishes himself in this series and inserts himself in a significant way with five minutes and ten seconds left. He scores to make it three to two.

And he skates back onto Kings territory. Dry side of saucer pass. Berry shoots. He scores! The go-ahead goal off the stick of Tyson Berry. And late in game six, the Oilers lead three to two. And you know, you look at that shift. An offensive zone face-off after a tired bunch is on the ice.

And they just continue to push the issue. Hemden-Minn, L.A.'s looking for a change. Athanasiou just kind of can't put this puck in deep, but it's David all the way back once again in the defensive zone. And what a pass by Leon Dreissel. He looks back. He knows Barry's there. He's got time. That's Grunstrom coming on the ice late. And that's it.

Your thoughts on Edmonton extending this one and Evander Kane reminding Kings fans that we're headed to a Game 7. I thought that McDavid had one of the greatest games I've ever seen him play. I know he didn't get eight points or anything like that, but considering what was at stake, and Dreisaitl is clearly hurting, didn't have Nurse, andcdavid came out there and he took a big hit from kaliev he carried the man that's as great a performance as mcdavid has had in his nhl career i really believe that how did you feel about the uh the kaliev collision by the way i I gotta tell you, I think

it was mostly accidental. Mostly? I thought at the end he was like, you know how it is, you're going to give someone a little nudge and he caught him a lot more than he thought he was going to catch him. I think he always expected like, I do think people look at

McDavid and they're like, oh he's going to see me because he's Connor McDavid. I would bet you that Kalia was actually surprised that McDavid didn't pick him out at the absolute last second with his super peripheral vision. I think it was, I have no desire to really hit him, but I wouldn't mind bumping him a little bit. And he was shocked at how much he got him. The way that I see that, I'm very similar to how you think. I think that if I'm Todd McClellan, one of the things that I'm telling all my players is,

as often as you can, set a pick in front of Connor McDavid. Slow him down at every opportunity. Make it look casual, make it look non-deliberate, but set picks for Connor McDavid to slow him down all over the ice. And I think Kaliev in that situation was doing it, but I don't think he intended to do it like that. But I do think that whether it's Kaliev or anybody else on the Los Angeles Kings, make no mistake about it. The instruction is slow this guy down. You can't make it look like a basketball pick,

but we all know what skating picks are, and we all know what skating picks look like, and that was just more of a, that was just a rougher skating pick. How's that, Elliot? Yeah, so we're pretty much on a similar wavelength. We believe the same thing. I mean, I'm looking at this right now, and I'm thinking about how is dry sidled yep i know

the kings are missing dowdy but you know dry sidle would obviously be a huge factor if he was not available or less than 100 but i just got to tell you tonight i thought thought McDavid was unbelievable. I thought he won that game and the Oilers aren't always known for grinding out wins and things like that, but I really thought they grinded that one out. It was really impressive

what they did. We have another Game 7 on Saturday. That is the Boston Bruins and the Carolina Hurricanes. The Bruins beat Carolina 5-3 is the final score here. We're going Game 7 and rally. That is the Boston Bruins and the Carolina Hurricanes. The Bruins beat Carolina 5-3 as the final score here. We're going Game 7 in Raleigh. Your thoughts on that one? I was surprised that Ajo got up from that hit. Oh, but he wasn't the same the rest of the game, though.

He was in the game, but he wasn't in the game, Elliot. That was a punishing, punishing hit. And I agree with you. I thought it set a tone. I thought it really affected Ajo. But game seven, to me, Toronto-Tampa is a total toss-up because I think both those teams are going to bring a lot and they're going to compete hard. And I think they're really evenly matched. I think this series has proven that they're really evenly matched. I think Edmonton and L.A. is going to be three yards in a cloud of dust. I've said a couple of times talking about Calgary-Dallas, but I think that's what this series is now.

I think there's a lot of attrition there. I think that, you know, players are banged up. It's become a really, really tight grinding series. And those two teams are going to claw at each other to whoever's going to win the game. I have no idea. There's been times where Carolina's been completely dominant in this

series, but I think as the series has gotten on, I think Boston's gotten a lot better. And right now, I think Swayman, this is what it comes down to. Who are you betting on? Swayman or Ronta? Well, tonight, Swayman outplayed him.

He sure did. But how many guys on Boston and Carolina are going to look at Game 7 and they're going to say, holy smokes, I never thought my season was going to come down to X goalie. Like the Boston guys thought that Tuukka Rask was going to be here right now. And Carolina thought Freddie Anderson. I got to think that there's guys playing saying, holy smokes, we never envisioned this.

It'll be a fascinating one. Right now it's the Homer series, and it's heading into Carolina's backyard. We'll see what happens on saturday let's get to st louis and minnesota you and i talked on the radio about some of the really smart moves that craig barubi has made in this series some of the tweaks some of the changes minnesota made you know one significant change for this game inserting cam talbot and net instead of mark andre flurry talbot hasn't played in a couple of weeks.

It doesn't end well for the Minnesota Wild. Their season is done. It's a 5-1 win for St. Louis. And one of those changes that we saw Craig Berube make in this series paid off again. Jordan Bennington. We just talked about goaltenders in Carolina and Boston. Elliot, Jordan Bennington was excellent again. He was really good again. He was the difference. There's no question about that. As this series went on, St. Louis got stronger. And it's like if you believe in the law of energy, right? Energy is neither created nor destroyed. It just goes to different places. The energy went from Minnesota to St. Louis as the series went on and St. Louis took control. We talked about this, about the danger of playing Cam Talbot, is that you were asking a lot of a guy who hadn't played in two weeks.

You're putting him in game six of a series and you're saying, look, I know you haven't played in two weeks, but we need you. And I'm watching that first goal. And at the time, Minnesota's out shooting St. Louis 9-2, and it's a pretty harmless-looking goal for Nick Letty, and you could just see the wild say. Loose change finds Pareko, peels to his right, plays it on the tape of Letty, who will gallop ahead,

hit the red line, now the offensive blue line, left circle is shot. And I don't blame Cam Talbot in this situation. I think that if you're any goalie in the world with any sense of competitive nature, if your team comes

to you and says, you're going in tonight and we need you, you're going to say yes. You're going to go and you're going to say, says, you're going in tonight and we need you, you're going to say yes. You're going to go and you're going to say, yes, I can do it. I can win the game. But I think deep down, everybody had to know it was far from ideal. And he'd been out for too long and it was a tough place to put him in.

It was a tough place to put them in. And I think Minnesota has created a kind of name for themselves as an organization that is unafraid to take chances that other teams won't take. And I think that serves them well. But sometimes those decisions are going to blow up in your face like a grade 10 chemistry experiment. And I did that because I once set a sink on fire in grade 10 chemistry. Oh, well done. This was one of those cases where it did. But the thing is, I don't think that Wild can let that change who they are. I think it's easy to say tonight they made the wrong call.

It didn't work for them. And maybe in this case, they made the wrong call it didn't work for them and maybe in this case it was the wrong call but what my point is is that i don't think it can change bill garen and dean evason from thinking the way they think and i would hope it doesn't it didn't work but you can't let it change your i I don't know, your identity. Or how you operate. And now the Minnesota Wild are going to have to operate with a big salary cap hole of $12.7 million next season. Let's do the what's next for Minnesota now that they've been eliminated from the Stanley Cup playoffs.

First order of business for Minnesota. Is it Marc-Andre Fleury decision or is it Kevin Fiala decision? Well, I think about it this way. Fleury is an unrestricted free agent. Yes. What does he want? Well, the first question is, does he want to stay? I think that all goes in there.

I mean, in Minnesota, there's nothing personal in Minnesota's decision. They made the best decision, business decision that they thought was right. How is Marc-Andre Fleury with that? Is he going to want to stay or is he going to want to go elsewhere? And even then, his regular season numbers are such that Minnesota has to be very careful with all their contracts, right? As you said, they've got a big salary cap hole. They don't have a lot of flexibility. So, you know, Marc-Andre Fleury could probably get more in the open market

than Minnesota could offer. Now, he might fool us all and say, you know what? I really liked it here. I'm going to stay here, and I'm going to find a number that works. We'll see. You know, the Fiala thing, I was going over it this week with someone. What's Fiala's ARB case? And, you know, his ARB case is going to lead into his UFA case.

I think Minnesota is going to have to do major surgery if they want to keep Fiala. We're not talking about, like, okay, you're going to lose your pinky finger or your little toe. I just don't see it. I think Fiala is going to have to go and they'll have to figure it out from there. But the thing is, again, with Garen, if he sees something,

he might do it because he's not afraid. But from what I'm hearing, it's just going to be extremely difficult. Yeah, I can't see a scenario barring completely blowing up, like, for example, completely blowing up your blue line. I think, like, that's about the only way you're going to be able to keep Kevin Fiala. And we all know, you know, the hot and cold relationship between Kevin Fiala and Dean Everson, which goes back to the Nashville days in Milwaukee. So they're not strangers to one another. They've very much found a way to coexist this season and Kevin Fiala had

an outstanding season for the Minnesota Wild under Dean Everson. I just think that that was the last time we'll see Kevin Fiala as a member of the Minnesota Wild. And listen, they're in the picks and prospects business now. It's going to be a steady stream of entry-level contracts now because of the buyouts to Parisi and Suter. That's a story we've been talking about since the buyouts occurred. I think the Fiala deal

will be a whopper. Sounds to me very much like a draft day trade, but I don't think it's going to be for anybody that has much, if any, salary attached. This sounds like a picks and prospects deal. Does it not to you?

Like I said, I think Garen is showing that he's completely fearless and I've learned that if anybody's going to do something unconventional, he might be that guy. But I would say you're probably right but until I

see it, I'll wait. That's a tough loss for Minnesota though. It really is. This was their year. They went all in. They pushed all their chips into the table. The thing is, I look at Minnesota like I look at Toronto, right? I think that's a really good team. There's no weaklings in the playoffs.

What did Minnesota get for their reward for a great season? They got St. Louis. St. Louis. What did Toronto get for their reward for a great season? They st louis st louis you know what did toronto get for their reward for a great season they got tampa bay one of the things we look at here is oh they lose in the first round well that's depressing for them and i'm sure they feel like crap really but i look at who they lost to and how good that team was and you know sometimes in this league you get beat by the playoff setup as much as you get beat by the team you're playing and i think that has to be

recognized and i wouldn't overreact to this it's a crappy loss but that's a hell of a team that beat them it really is uh one other note with with Minnesota before we move on here quickly. What about Nick Delorier? He was a really effective regular season player. He brings an element of toughness, a really good penalty killer as well. I know sometimes it's tricky to play players like Delorier in the playoffs. I think we all get that. But what happens with Delorier here?

I mean, everywhere he goes, he's a fan favorite and a clubhouse favorite. But his contract is expiring. What do you think of Deloria? Well, I know there was some thought he might end up going back. To Anaheim. Yes. And I also think that after he left, you know, what happened? The Arizona game happened.

Yeah. And I don't think that Deloria's absence from that game went unnoticed I still think there are some teams specifically in the Metropolitan that want to get a little tougher and I wonder about the Pittsburgh Penguins who've tried to get them before

I wonder about the Penguins and Nick Deloria but we'll see there. Okay, so that's what happened on Thursday. We got game sevens on Saturday. Saturday is just going to be a glorious day. Just going to be a glorious day for hockey. And we've got three elimination games on friday as this podcast gets released you have

three elimination games tonight penguins up 3-2 on the rangers we still don't know about crosby panthers are up 3-2 on the capitals coming off a five-point performance from carter verhege and the flames could close out the dallas stars you have a quick thought here on each of these series elliot well i mean the big one, obviously, is Crosby. You know, the Penguins are obviously being very guarded about his situation. You know, I gotta tell you, part of me actually

wondered if he injured his leg on the play as much as anything else, but obviously that's not the case. You know, it's an upper body injury, and we all think we know what it is, unfortunately. i agreed with the decision not to suspend jacob truba i think it was a bad fluke unfortunately i'm probably like most people i want to see sydney crosby healthy and playing i do think on some level this will start another conversation about contact the head and what

has to be done about it but i i think in this case you know it was a play where truba was trying to make a stick on puck and unfortunately it went really awry and i hate to see it and i hope again i hope that we see sydney crosby in the lineup on friday night for game. I just don't know. You know, just from a purely Penguins point of view, they have to be concerned that they completely melted down after Crosby got hurt. Adam Fox told Carolyn Cameron that the game completely changed and it was like a new game entirely. Pittsburgh's actually fortunate that Malkin didn't get a hearing yes that's true

you know he had a cross check to the face and he's just getting back from a late season suspension from one of those like they became unglued and i wouldn't expect that to happen again i would think that mike sullivan will grab a hold of everyone and get everyone under control. I'm also wondering if there's any chance that Tristan Jari shows up. Listen, we've seen him on the ice. We don't know if he can go. We've seen it before. I wonder if we see Jari. You know, the other thing I wonder too, Jeff,

is if there's anybody in the Pittsburgh organization who looks at what happened with Talbot and says, yeah, I don't know if we want to do that. I don't know. I'm just throwing spaghetti at the wall. I don't know about that one. I think it's different going from Marc-Andre Fleury to Cam Talbot than going from Louis Domingue to Tristan Jari. Yeah, that's not the worst argument you've ever made. I've made some bad ones.

You remind me of that on a daily basis. Panthers-Capitals, Cats can close out against Washington. It took another comeback in Game 5. The Panthers keep getting scares here from the Capitals, and then Carter Verhage goes to work. Your thoughts on this one? Boy, of all the people on that roster, Carter Verhage, what a story. Five-point game.

And Florida looked asleep for a good chunk of that game. Again, Barkov has been really quiet in that series. I thought he was better in five for each. He has not taken over a game yet. Nope. Again, like both of these goalies, they make you nervous, right? Like Bobrovsky is having rough moments and Sassano's having rough moments. We talked about Boston, Carolina, like the players looking and saying,

boy, I wasn't expecting this in terms of in goal. I think in Florida, obviously you were expecting it was probably going to be Bobrovsky. But I got to think the players on both these teams are kind of looking at it like jeez like you know we don't know what to expect behind us and we also you know think that we're never out of a game because of it that's right well that certainly happened the last game like Washington is clearly not intimidated by these guys Washington thinks they can win this series I don't know that they're crazy about the goaltending but Washington thinks they can win this series. I don't know that they're crazy about the goaltending,

but they think they can win this series. And I just think Florida's deeper, and I think Florida can outscore them, but Washington is completely unfazed and unintimidated by that. Calgary flames up 3-2 on the Dallas Stars. They can close out on Friday. Really quickly, just as a quick thought, that Andrew Mangiapane goal in

Game 5. A beautiful goal. It's got the perfect ping of the post. It hits the post perfectly. Did you hear Ron mention that, by the way, on Thursday night? No, I missed that. What did he say? He actually credited you.

First intermission of the Edmonton game, he said that Jeff Merrick says that the best sound in hockey is the ping off the post and in. And I said that's the first smart thing you've ever said. Well, thanks for the compliment. I can't believe you weren't watching. Well, normally I do watch the intermissions. Today it was probably either bouncing around games or

doing something with the kids that just came back from baseball. Merrick only watches himself on TV. That's how we go now. Right above my mirror it says, oh look, there's my navel. Calgary Flames are going to close out against the Dallas Stars. And the Andrew Mangiapane goal, was that the loudest we've heard the Saddle Dome this year? I would think so.

That moment was such a release for everybody. First of all, you're getting into the third period here. And the Jason Robertson goal is standing up. And Jake Ottinger is being Jake Ottinger. And everyone in Calgary is going, ooh, geez. And then they tie it up. And then Mangiapane scores to give them the lead. And it was like this incredible release valve.

And like all the tension that Flames fans have built up about their team all got released on that goal. Yeah, it was, it was a great building. To me, that was an incredibly mature win by the Flames. They didn't panic. They stuck with what they do, and Sutter went to the blender, and they found stuff going on. And they grinded away to win that game. I really thought that series was a toss-up through four games.

For the first time, I think one team's really in trouble I think that team is Dallas I think now that Calgary has just said we're gonna play and we're gonna forget the the tomfoolery which you worry about next season you don't worry about now there's been a separation between the two teams I always look at a series and I say, okay, who's in trouble? And until the end of the last game, I never felt anybody was in huge trouble in that series. Now I feel differently. I feel Dallas is, and not just because it's three to two. I just think that Calgary has established itself,

took a bit longer than we thought, but now they've established themselves. And that's a tough level for Dallas to get to. You know, what's an interesting thing about the Calgary Flames through all of this with the Dallas Stars who have thrown a real big scare here into the Calgary team? They haven't panicked for each. Yeah. Has there been a moment where you said like, ooh, look at

Calgary, they're panicking right now? I haven't seen it. Have you? No, they're definitely not panicking. I've been really impressed by them. They have not panicked at all. We'll see what happens tonight we could have three closeouts uh the pens and the rangers the panthers and the capitals the flames and the dallas stars and then it's game seven saturday folks okay so we look forward to

all these games and elliot will get in some more news on the next podcast how about that because you just got home and you need a pillow. I need a pillow. Amel, though, needs to get to work to get this thing out first thing Friday morning. Amel, we love you. And we love ending the podcast with some great tunes. Taking us out today, a musician from Victoria, B.C., whose latest body of work takes us to much greater depths. Jesse Roper explores new sounds on his latest EP by bringing forward pulsating percussions and undulating guitar with Roper's expansive vocals leading the charge. From Hold On Me, here's Jesse Roper with Hooks. Appropriate for a hockey podcast. On 32 Thoughts, the pod. Enjoy. I see you walking around like a lost dog

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