32 Thoughts: The Podcast - First Playoff Carcast

Episode Date: May 4, 2022

Best time of the year! Before getting to the action on the ice, Jeff and Elliotte discuss the season-end press conference in Vancouver (6:30) and what their off-season might look like. They also talk about the coaching search in Winnipeg to wrap things up (32:20).The guys then touch on each of the series for a few minutes starting off with the Rangers-Penguins (00:01), Calgary-Dallas (16:50), Nashville-Colorado (18:50), Washington-Florida (22:20), Toronto-Tampa (22:30), Edmonton-LA (26:15), Blues-Wild (28:30) and Carolina-Boston (30:50).Music Outro: Yankee - DollyListen to our 32 Tracks playlist on Amazon Music. All the tracks you hear on this podcast during the playoffs are featured there.This podcast is produced and mixed by Amil Delic, and hosted by Jeff Marek and Elliotte Friedman.Audio Credits: 105.9 The X, ESPN, KKSE-FM, NHL Network, Sportsnet 650 & Sportsnet 960.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.

Well, if you are just joining us, first of all, what in the world have you been doing? Second, sit down. Yeah, it's 3-3, second overtime, we got 7.38 left to go. Casey DeSmith started this game, played the first 60 minutes, the whole first overtime session, and then with 10.42 left in the second OT, there is an unknown ailment that has removed Casey DeSmith from this game. He removed himself. Play was stopped. So Louis Domingue has entered the game in the second overtime session. He has stopped the first few shots he's seen.

And the Penguins have a faceoff coming up to the left of Igor Shosturkin. I think we believe. We believe. I actually had quite the meal in between the first and the second overtime. I didn't expect going in, but maybe it sustained my energy. So it was cool, though. It was cool to be part of that. You say quite the meal.

What was it? Some spicy pork and broccoli. Not the best. 2022 Stanley Cup Playoff CarCast edition of 32 Thoughts to the Podcast presented by the all-new GMC AT4 lineup. Jeff Merrick along with you at my home studio in lovely Stouffville, Ontario. Elliot in his motor vehicle driving home after working another exciting edition of the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

Let's begin with the game. It drifts to the far corner with it. Up the wall now. Back to the point for Marino, wrist shot, scores! Evgeny Malkin plays hero! The flex impassions lurking, and you can

slap it on the Broadway marquee! The Penguins take game one and lead this series one game to nothing. Now, that counts as two games for Pittsburgh, right? Like, lead the series 2-0 now, right? By winning that game. Am I right on that one, Elliot?

I would say the Rangers would disagree with you. Respectfully. The Rangers would say that would only count as one victory. What a game. What a game that was, Elliot. That was fantastic. That was a great, great game. I mean, we've been spoiled so far.

The first two nights have been really, really good. You know, all credit to Louis Domingue and the spicy pork and broccoli that he had, not thinking he was going to play. You know, you think about the precipice the Penguins are on, right? You know, they don't have Tristan Jari and maybe game three at the earliest. They lose Casey to Smith and lower body injury and Louis Domingue.

And they have an e-bug getting dressed. Reed Robertson from Manhattanville College getting dressed to play just in case. And, you know, they're really on the precipice there. If anything happens to Domingue, it is big, big trouble. But he comes out, he makes 17 saves. The Rangers had some great chances too. And this might prove to be, Jeff, a wrong take. History might prove me wrong here.

But I think the Penguins needed that game more than the Rangers did. Just because the Penguins are older, and if they lose that game, it's bigger trouble for them than it is the Rangers. Agree or disagree? No, no, no. I completely agree. And the other thing is, the Rangers

have owned the Pittsburgh Penguins. The last couple of seasons, the Rangers have dominated the Pittsburgh Penguins, and I know we of seasons, the Rangers have dominated the Pittsburgh Penguins. And I know we, the same thing to do is take regular season stats and regular season matchups, crumple them up and throw them out. But in this situation,

you wonder about things living in between the ears of other teams. And the Penguins have been owned by the Rangers. They win that one in that fashion against a goaltender. Let's not forget, like, Louis Dominguez, one story here. So is Igor Shcherkin. 79 saves, a new Rangers record.

He was phenomenal all night long. I do have to ask you, though, was that goalie interference? You see, Kevin and Kelly both thought it was goalie interference. I thought the Rangers really handled it well in the postgame. They said it could have gone 50-50 either way. Kevin, the defenseman, and Kelly, the goalie, went for goalie interference. My feeling that it wasn't goalie interference was simply because I think Kako goes across the top of the crease if he's not pushed by Dumoulin.

That's how I saw it. I saw him skating on the top of the crease and he got shoved in. And I don't know what a forward is supposed to do in that situation. First of all, you're allowed to go to the net hard. Last time I checked, you're not allowed to drive into a goaltender, but you're allowed to go hard around the top of the crease. And then he got pushed and it took the whole fracas all the way to the outside of the far post.

And again, it would have ruined a great experience, a triple overtime game. But I don't think that game should have gotten to overtime in the first place. You know, the other thing we got to keep an eye on here is that one of the Rangers defensemen got hurt and Raquel got hurt on a big hit too and Ryan Lindgren got hurt blocking a shot and Lincoln also hit Raquel and there was no update on him post game and the Lindgren hit someone sent me a note that January 2020 Lindgren had a big hit on Jonas Donskoy when Donskoy was still with the Avalanche, almost the exact same hit. And he actually had a phone hearing. And after the hearing, he wasn't suspended because after going through it, they said that he did everything properly and

there was no suspension. I showed it to Kelly and Kevin. I found it online, Jeff. It looked almost the same as this one. I don't think he got his head as the principal point of contact. If anything, I wondered if it was late. Kelly and Kevin said, no, I don't think there's anything there. I could be wrong, but I don't think there's anything there. The other thing, you mentioned the Pittsburgh Penguins on a precipice, too. They're skating on a precipice this entire playoff with the thoughts that this might be the last hurrah with this group,

whether it's Rust. Rust was excellent, by the way. I thought Rust had a great game. So was Letang, Malkin with the game winner. In the back of everyone's mind is still, we're probably seeing the last of this rock and roll band. I want to get to a couple of other games we've seen so far in the first couple of days of the Stanley Cup playoffs,

but I want to get your thoughts on Vancouver and Jim Rutherford, Patrick Galvin, comments about amongst other things, and we'll start with the coach here, Bruce Boudreaux. Oh boy. Rutherford says he doesn't want to give Boudreaux a contract extension

until he coaches for an entire season. Well, he knows we want him back. He was told that before the season was over. And he knows our position. Like I said, he did a terrific job, but he didn't coach a whole season here. And we would like to see him back. here and we would like to see him back and that's certainly not to say that at the end of next year we wouldn't want him back. He continues to do the job he's doing. We have an exclusive time period to negotiate a new contract at

the end of next season and I just feel that as good a job as he's done, it wasn't a full season. It seems like the ball's in his court. You've told him you'd like him to come back. When do you need a decision? Well, in our agreement, both sides have until June 1st. How do you see the Boudreaux situation right now in Vancouver now that Jim Rutherford has come out and publicly commented on it well I mean you know there there were some reports on the weekend that they were

getting close and I had a couple people telling me it's not getting close I think I said that on your show on Monday yeah I had a couple people telling me don't go there like it's not getting close and you know Jim Rutherford gave us the answer and um like Jim Rutherford like you know he's uh you know he's great with the media he's a really good talker I really like talking to him but he's not a guy who backs down you know from a fight or anything like that and I don't necessarily know if this is a fight but it's a little bit of hardball. And that's the one thing I wonder. Sometimes something gets said at a time and then we see, does the line move? Does that change? Is it part of a negotiation process? You know, does Jim Rutherford reserve the right to change his

mind later? Do they feel that in any way, shape or form that what Boudreaux was asking for is too much they just said no forget it like I always think what are the moving parts behind the scenes here I think the other thing here too is Jim Rutherford saying I want to see what Bruce Boudreaux's move is going to be like one of the first things that i wondered about is you know there's a general manager in philadelphia who knows him really well like is chuck fletcher in any way shape or form gonna want to talk to bruce boudreaux and so i just wonder if there's a little bit of poker going on and you know maybe maybe there isn't maybe jim r says, nope, this is just the way it is. But I also do wonder if, as we record this, date just flipped to May the 4th. May has 31 days.

That gives us basically 27, 28 days to figure this out, right? Yes. I wonder, is this a hard no, or is it part of a conversation, a strategy? Do the lines move somewhere? Does Jim Rutherford want to see where Bruce Boudreaux is? But I do wonder, are other teams going to reach out to the Canucks and say, you know what, we'd like to maybe talk to them, and maybe the Canucks want to see the landscape too.

It wouldn't surprise me if we haven't heard the end of this whole situation. Well, a couple of things that Rutherford spoke about, about his team. He talked about wanting more structure in the game. He was quite candid about not liking the way the Vancouver Canucks played and focused in specifically on zone exits. Coming away from this, you know the impression that I got, Elliot? I'll be quite blunt with you the impression i got was he thought the vancouver canucks under bruce boudreaux was a mirage he talked about relying on the goaltending too much and the goalie saved all these games didn't

like the way we played we didn't have any structure sure they still piled up some wins but we've seen that before i came away with the idea that I don't think that Rutherford A, liked the ways team played and maybe thought all those wins were just a mirage. What did you think? I've dealt with Jim Rutherford a lot over the years, a lot. And one of the reasons I like dealing with him is that if you ask him a question, he'll give you an answer. And he'll give you a pretty honest answer. I have found over the years is that Jim Rutherford has never been dishonest with me. I can never remember once him being dishonest with me.

But what I do remember is that he decides how honest he wants to be in the sense of how much information am I going to give you? Like, I never questioned whether or not he's telling me the truth. I think what I always am wondering is how much of the picture is he willing to give me at this particular time? And so everything that Jim Rutherford said today, or sorry, I don't even know what day it is anymore, So everything that Jim Rutherford said today, or sorry, I don't even know what day it is anymore, Jeff. Yesterday, today, East, West, time zone, who knows. Everything that Jim Rutherford said on Tuesday in Vancouver was the truth as he sees it. To me, the most noteworthy thing is he probably gave us a lot more of the truth than he might have if there was common ground on an extension so that's why i wonder is this all part of like a negotiating tactic i'll tell you what i don't believe for

a second i don't believe that bruce budro and his representatives or and jim rutherford have not talked about an extension i I don't believe it. I think they absolutely talked about it. What do we know right now? They don't have one. So I think what this could have been from Rutherford today is I'm giving you a bit more honesty in the sense that here's why I'm taking the position I'm taking.

I still think he believes that Bruce Boudreaux did a good job with the team this year, but not to the point where he says, I'm giving Boudreaux the contract that maybe he wanted. If that is what he wants, it's not going to be here right now. That's what I think this is. You could get it, but not here right now. That's what I think this is. It's you could get it, but not here right now. And that's the impression that I have of what Rutherford did.

Okay. One more thing on Vancouver, the JT Miller talk. And we saw Jim Rutherford, you know, we talking to Dan and sat on, on six 50, you know,

he talked about age curves about jt miller and talked about would you sign a player in their 30s and you sign them and you're put in a position you have to sign them long term would you have to weigh in that decision is how much that player is going to give you in the first three years compared to the last three years. You know at some point in time there's going to be a decline in the player's play, okay? But does he give you that much more in the first three years that offsets the last three years? And then when you're dealing with the player,

like the example you're giving in JT Miller, he's coming off a career year. He's a very good player. Players like him are hard to find that can put up points and they're strong and they're physical and things like that. But we're going to negotiate with his agent this offseason and we're going to negotiate in a way that works for the Canucks, not only for now, but long term. And if both sides can come to an agreement,

then JT Miller will be here long-term. If the numbers get out of whack, then we have to make a non-emotional decision and make a tough decision that won't be popular with anybody and try to get assets that are going to help this franchise long term what's your jim rutherford decoder ring saying about that conversation well you know i think he's telling the truth like i do think the biggest question with miller is term right and i do think that is what he is saying is that if miller wants say, seven or eight years, it's probably not going to be in Vancouver. If it's five years and they have to bend the elastic a certain way on the AAV, I think they're potentially more willing to do that. As we've talked about, I think Horvat is a big priority

for them. And the other thing is, if you listen to Ben Hankinson in the past couple of days, and he was on Rick Dullaw's show, and plus also if you listen to Rutherford the past couple days, and he was on Rick Dullewald's show, and plus also if you listen to Rutherford the past couple days, I think they are really trying to get something done with Besser. So I am kind of trying to figure it out. I think that what Rutherford is saying is that if Miller wants to stay and he's saying all the right things, it's going to have to be about term. And again, Brian Bartlett, who represents Miller, says, well, I think term's a little bit of a fallacy

because we've seen players have career highs now at age 32, right? Stamkos, Stamkos was, I think, one of the examples here. Yes, one of the, so, like, I mean, this is the dance. This is the dance. Now, I will say this. One of the guys I wonder about there is Ekman Larson. And once again, Ekman Larson has control over this. But I do think the Canucks have at times this year tried to see, is there a market there?

So I don't know where this is going to go. I just think they've had their feelers out there. And I think they've tried to see if there's potentially a market there for them. But don't forget, OEL has control. Back to the games here, Elliot. So we talked about the Rangers and the Pittsburgh Penguins. Other games on Tuesday. Just fly through a couple of quick thoughts here on a few of these games

as we go Carcast style. The Calgary Flames beat the Dallas Stars, but it wasn't necessarily easy getting there. Shoots and scores! Just five seconds into their power play. Elias Lindholm rips the puck past Jake Ottinger and it's 1-0 Flames. Lindholm with the goal and that was it

1-0 Ottinger on one side Markstrom on the other side some real rugged play from some Calgary Flames players you guys highlighted Blake Coleman took a tough hit from Yanni Hakenpah of the Dallas Stars.

He had a really interesting and physical game. And that's the kind of game where a guy like Blake Coleman really thrives. How did you see game one between the Flames and the Stars? I thought I was watching NFL films circa 1948, like three yards in a cloud of dust. Of all the games that unfolded the way that you thought they would, I thought that was the one. A couple things.

Kelly talked about how Mitch Marner had the big first night of the playoffs and it's the monkey off his back. I think that was a big confidence booster for the first line, especially Goudreau. 1-0, 20 seconds left or whatever it was. Offensive zone draw, and you put them out there. And, you know, Kachuk made a hell of a play. Oh, he was great.

But I have to say that I thought that was a big moment for that first line and for Goudreau. Daryl Sutter says 1-0. You guys are going to protect the lead. And he gave them the shot, and they did it. You know, the one thing, the one play I look at in that game, Jeff, that I thought about a lot was I guess was Pavelski and

Hintz had a 2-on-1 and Hintz missed the net. That line is not going to get a lot of chances. They've got to bury those chances if Dallas is going to have a shot. That was the third period, 2-on-1 you're talking about? Yes.

Yeah, just shot a little bit wide to the right. Nashville and Colorado, 7-2 is the final. Tough night for Dave Riddick, five goals on 13 shots. He gets pulled. Connor Ingram comes in. This game was all Colorado. And welcome back, Gabriel Landeskog. He scores.

Cale McCarr scored an absolute beauty. Is that Gabe Landeskog or Peter Forsberg? Now Cale McCarr has the puck high in the zone. Works down the wall away from Janot. Cale McCarr out in front. He scores! He did it again! He did it again! It's Chicago

times two! Cale McCarr spun down the Nearside boards away from the Forward and he tucked it in short Side Kale McCarr Is not human Oh hell Kale

Dad insults injury Andrew Cogliano we should mention his Day to day with the upper body injury And did it not seem like And maybe the most obvious one was Luke Cunnin, the Nashville Predators were trying to get Nazem Khadri to do something dumb, thinking they could goad him into doing something. That was message sending, which, you know, like Toronto and Tampa got a bunch of fines at the end of game one the other night.

Look, they were beaten. it's still only game one it was an awful night for them and they were trying to do what they could maybe to turn the momentum or change things around the ESPN cameras got a shot of Cadre at one point and his eyes were wide and I was looking at it and I was I was saying boy I hope he keeps his cool so that's a big victory i think you're right jeff i think it was a big victory for cadry that you know he kind of recognized what was going on there and he kept himself calm you know i have to tell you i've always loved dave riddick's story you know he's got a brother on the spectrum and yeah that was one of the great stories about dave riddick about you know how he took care of his brother and uh in a lot of ways I've kind of rooted for him over

the years because of that and uh boy that was that was just a a brutal night for him really tough to watch and I gotta think they're coming back with Conor Ingram in game two now you sent me a note about a scar off the first round pick who just signed in the american hockey i was listening to chuck fletcher on tuesday talk about fedotov who had a great year in the khl and he said look like we think you can play here next year but you never know with a european goalie coming over you got to get used to traffic you got to get used to the ice i don't know i was i was talking about this with someone jeff after you put on my radar you think are you gonna throw that kid in that no way man welcome here i i i don't know man like he's going to milwaukee i have the sense that that's where he's i could

be wrong but it was a good idea. Like when you sent it to me, I was like, you know what? Like I was on my national radio hit last Thursday and they asked me if there's, I thought there was any chance of Scar off. We play for them.

The sorrows. I was like, I hadn't heard that. And then he signed, you mentioned it, but I did ask someone not connected with the predators, but someone who kind of, I think would have good Intel.

And he said, man, I think that's a terrible idea. Nashville's in tough against a really good Colorado Avalanche team. Florida Panthers and Washington Capitals. Capitals win this one 4-2. The one thing that I think we all noticed watching this one to begin, Florida came out just trying to pound the Washington Capitals into submission. Like to start that game for each, that was like Florida came out like, okay, we're playing bumper cars and we're playing bumper cars now.

That was a little bit of a surprise from this microphone. And people were all over Toronto about that, you know, play to your identity. In Florida's case, like I think Florida's a tough team. I think they are. But I do think they kind of got out of their way a little bit. Like, I don't overreact to game one, and I'm sure they'll be better, especially with Tom Wilson getting hurt. That's a huge victory for the Capitals, a huge victory for them.

When Kuznetsov tied it, you're like, uh-oh. And then Oshie and Eller salted away Vitek Vanacek with 29 saves in that one. Because we haven't done a podcast since the opening night of the Stanley Cup playoffs. A couple of things here. Just a couple of notes and a couple of thoughts on each of the other games that we saw. These games on Monday night. The Toronto Maple Leafs handle the Tampa Bay Lightning. It is probably, I would have to say, the best overall team performance that we've seen from the Maple Leafs this season, maybe with this entire combination of hockey players. How would you frame it, Freed?

I agree with that, Jeff. I think that's the best game I've ever seen this group of Maple Leafs play. I think that may be the best playoff game. I have to say, I didn't go back through all of them, but I think that may be the best playoff game I've seen the Maple Leafs play since...

I always remember the one, 93, when they beat St. Louis to advance to play the Kings. They beat them 6-0 in Game 7. That's the one I always remember the one, 93, when they beat St. Louis to advance to play the Kings. They beat them 6-0 in game seven. That's the one I kind of always remember. That's the best game I've seen that group play. And that was the best I've seen them play. That's the worst I've seen the Lightning play. And I don't want that to take away from my credit to Toronto

because part of the reason Tampa played so badly was because of how the Leafs play. They won every puck battle. They won. They were faster. Campbell got a shutout. And, of course, he made some really good saves. But I didn't think Campbell had to, like, save their bacon over and over again because I just thought they were really

good. I am really curious to see the counterpunch in Game 2 from Tampa. You know, Kucherov was weird. I thought he was passing the puck a lot. I got to think Tampa's going to be a lot different. But Toronto's going to have Bunting coming in. That Toronto win, like I said, I think it's the best game I've ever seen them play as a group.

Penalty kill, turned it around the five-minute. Was that the turning point? Safe to say. And the penalty kill pretty much like all game long for the Toronto Maple Leafs, whether it was Marner, Kampf, Kasha, Engvall, Kerfoot, Mikheyev, Blackwell, some really good middle six, and in Marner's case, top line,

two-way players on this team. I thought they were great. And you know what? The tea party that is the Toronto crowd, that was the wildest Leaf crowd I've seen since Maple Leaf Gardens. Normally, normally Scotiabank Arena, like I said, it's like a tea party. And that was no tea party. That was legit.

That was an energized crowd. And you really noticed it. Matthew's first shift was the third one in. And buzz and the MVP chance when he hit the ice I remember like Sam Cassell the great basketball player he played college basketball at Florida State he called North Carolina a wine and cheese crowd once and you know I always thought about that was not Toronto's typical wine and cheese crowd. No, not at all. Okay, I want to get to the Los Angeles Kings here and the Edmonton Oilers. Now, you talked a lot going into this one about one player specifically,

and that's Philippe Deneau. And Philippe Deneau was great. You know who else was great? Alex Iafallo and Trevor Moore. That line. So Mike Kelly from NHL Network and Sportlogic tweeted this one out from game one. Stats, okay? From the Iafallo-Deneau-Moore line.

Time on ice. This is even strength. Five on five. 42 shots eight four la slot shots five to one la goals three nothing la rush chances against that line zero that is doing a job elliot and And listen, Jonathan Quick was excellent. 36 saves, great job. But that line to me was the story of that game. I agree with you.

Now, I'm not expecting Arvidsson to play in game two. So they'll be together again, I assume, that group. I have to say, Deneau, playoff player, and someone actually made An interesting point to me said because I know it's only one game but he said LA not give you a Montreal from last year vibe and Remember last year we jokingly called Montreal. We called them Islanders light, right? Yeah. Yeah suffocate you Look at what the Kings are doing like they play structure

They don't do what they're not supposed to do I'll tell you this Jay Woodcroft for a guy who's been a coach for three months He's got the the 65 year old NHL coach mind games down to a science Nurse is a game time decision. Give us a break I Know I'm playing in game two i'm just not telling you yeah who it is if edmonton loses the series they'll look back at that game and they'll say damn like that was one we gave away but i don't think it's a devastating loss for for edmonton i don't i think you wish you would have had that one, but I still think you can sort that one out.

St. Louis Blues and the Minnesota Wild. A couple of stories here. David Perron with the hat trick. Villejuso with the shutout. 37 saves. 4-0 is the final. And Jared Spurgeon avoids a suspension. Your thoughts on Game 1 between these two?

Well, Jared Spurgeon is very lucky. There's no question about that. You know, Kelly felt very strongly he should have been suspended. And I don't think Kelly would be the only one who's felt that. I know there were a lot of people. You know, some people think that the Department of Players' safety is inconsistent. I actually think they're pretty consistent.

And one of the things that you do is for cross checks where a player is not injured there's not a lot of suspensions for that there's fines but there's not a lot of suspension so you know as much as everybody hated the look of that and i was one of the people when i realized that they don't spend a lot for cross checks that don't hurt people, I kind of thought that would be the outcome. And I know there's going to be people listening to this podcast who swear and say that's stupid and that's dumb. You say whatever you want.

That's fine. I'm just going by what their history is. Because Damien Echevarrieta has been there 22 years. He keeps all these things on file. And he says, this is what we've done. The only area where they do suspend for crosschecks even if there isn't an injury is crosschecks to the head those do get special consideration but by and large you're right mulligan and matthews you're right correct you have any further thought from the blues end of things here maybe david perron

maybe villi husso maybe something else that i'm leaving out i mean perron is fantastic most fantastic player i just think like minnesota you cannot take penalties you cannot take penalties against this power play it is too good and i'll say this like that st louis team they look really confident that was the one thing that really struck me about game one is that every time especially o'reilly was on the ice like they really seemed to know what they were doing and what they wanted to accomplish this series is far from over but you know the wild got schooled a bit in game one i think they're more than mature enough to recover. I want to see how they counterpunch in game two. Antiranta 35 saves, Seth Jarvis with a goal and an assist. Five to one is the final. To me, Ranta, his performance in that first 10 minutes of the Carolina-Boston game where Boston

threw every single puck they could find at him. 12 shots in the opening 10 minutes. To me, anti-ranta was a story for the Carolina Hurricanes as they drop first blood five to one is the final score there. And I, and I agree with you, Jeff. I mean,

you know, that was the thing we were all waiting to see was how would Ronta handle it? And you could tell is he weathered that storm, you know, the confidence in the Hurricanes grew. And Tara Vinen, his goal was beautiful. Jarvis's goal was beautiful. Now, a couple of the other ones were kind of ugly, but like Ronta wins that game in the first 10 minutes because the Hurricanes see he's up to the challenge and they begin to get going and feel really good about themselves and uh that's the way I kind of see the that game he bought them time and he bought them confidence you know look I think you can say all the right

things about oh we've got two number ones and this is the way it's supposed to be set up but until you really see it I don't know how much you really believe it. And at least with Carolina, they could really believe it after those first 10 minutes were over. Okay, Elliot, a couple of quick notes here to wrap up the podcast. Day three of the Stanley Cup playoffs on the horizon, but a couple of things first. Are you hearing any names around the Winnipeg Jets behind the bench?

You know, just a couple of things that I'm curious about. There's a couple of people with Winnipeg connections. Like I said, I think Kevin Shevelduff, when he said it's going to be a wide search, you know, one of the names that a couple of people have said to me, they wonder about is Scott Arneal, assistant coach in Washington, Winnipeg history, played for the Jets, has been a head coach once before. He's a guy who's been really valued as an assistant coach since he was a head coach. So Arneal is one guy I'm wondering about. I am curious, too, to see if the Jets talk to Randy Carlisle at all.

I've heard he would like to coach again. I've heard he would like to coach again and I just wonder if the Jets look for somebody who's got a bit of a connection to the market I don't think that's the number one reason you hire a coach but I think that you know

Winnipeg values that and I look at people like Arneal and Carlisle and I just wonder if their history with the market kind of gets them in the door a little bit, too, in addition to their other qualities. Interesting. We'll end it there. It's a little bit after 2 o'clock Eastern, and it's time we all went to bed because there's more hockey on the horizon. So, Elliot, taking us out is an Irish artist who dropped out of school to pursue his passion for

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