32 Thoughts: The Podcast - Great Start!

Episode Date: October 14, 2022

Early wake-up call! Jeff and Elliotte were in the studio early Friday morning to add a few updates to the podcast including the Travis Sanheim extension (00:45), the young Stars shining in Nashville (3:40), some impressive play from the Rangers (7:25), what we know about the Leafs (11:00), the Flames put on a show (14:50), Buffalo extends Mattias Samuelsson (38:00) plus a nice start to the season for the Sabres (17:30) and why Calder race will be interesting this season (19:30).They also talk Bruins and how nice it is to see David Krejčí back in the league (35:00), Montreal knows how to put on a show as they welcome back Carey Price (45:00), Leon Draisaitl and the Oilers are on a mission (52:00) and the guys wrap the podcast with a discussion about Hockey Canada (57:00).Music Outro: RealLiveAnimals - AutomobileListen to the full song hereThis podcast was produced and mixed by Amil Delic, and hosted by Jeff Marek and Elliotte Friedman.Audio Credits: Bally Sports West, Bally Sports North, ESPN, NBC Sports Philadelphia, Sportsnet and WEPN-FM.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.

We actually did a podcast in an hour, Amal. I thought we'd be talking at midnight, bud. I thought I'd have to go away from the games tonight to do a podcast. So Elliot, I don't know how often we're going to do this this season, but something tells me we're going to do this a lot before the podcast gets published. This is your Friday morning 32 Thoughts update. Philadelphia over New Jersey, 5-2. Connecting with a pair, Morgan Frost with a pair.

We always think of our former colleague Andy Frost in Q107 and Psychedelic Sundays. Yes. John Tortorella's debut, Carter Hart, 35 saves. A lot of injuries for the Philadelphia Flyers. Ivan Provorov with 10 blocked shots. No Nico Heischer, hamstring injury. But the big news before this one, Travis Sanheim's extension, as you tweeted about yesterday, was announced by the Flyers.

It is eight years, $50 million, 6.25 on the AAV. I wonder if Calgary GM Brad Treeliving sent a note to Chuck Fletcher saying, I deserve a finder's fee for this because I did all the work with Mackenzie Weeger and you didn't have to do anything. I don't know that when Dylan Larkin finally signs his ticket that Lou Lamarillo is going to get a thank you from Steve Eisenman

from the Matthew Barzell contract. Not sure that's going to happen. You're right about that. You're 100% right about that. Look, the template was set. What a day for Philly. that's going to happen. You're right about that. You're 100% right about that. Look, the template was set. What a day for Philly. The funniest thing was,

I don't know if you saw the quote after the game, but someone asked Sanheim about how he told his teammates and he said... Yeah, TK kind of blew it this morning. Connect, he blew the secret. During morning skate, so it got around pretty quick and guys were aware this morning that

there was a chance I was going to sign and we had to finalize the structure of the deal. I think the bigger thing was the call to my parents yesterday. Just a special moment to be able to share that with them. Tears in my eyes, tears in my mom's eyes. And coming from a small town, it was a really great day. I think this is an interesting one for Philadelphia because I think a lot of us are wondering about the direction they're going in.

But if Sandheim had hit the market, there would have been a ton of interest. It's a very interesting line to walk because on one hand, you're saying, stop giving out these deals. But on the other hand, you're saying you can't have hard and fast rules like that. You have to decide each case on their own individual merits. And there's a lot of interest in Sanheim out there. I heard about it quietly. And Philly just decides he's part of the solution.

So we're going to keep them. And ultimately you have to make those decisions internally. Philly came out. I didn't know what to expect. I really didn't, you know, hard hadn't played a minute in the preseason and they kept on telling everybody that he's going to be, he's going to be okay. And I didn't know if I really believed it and he was and very quietly Jeff New Jersey the Devils don't get a lot of hype or talk or at least compared to some other teams but the expectations there were much higher this year I don't know if I was convinced they were going to make up 30 points and get into the playoffs but there's generally a feeling that they wanted to be in the race and

playing meaningful games late in the season and i don't want to jump to conclusions on one game and it was philly's home opener and teams tend to be emotionally ready for that but i gotta think that the devils internally think that was a bit of a thud and they want to see better quickly the dallas stars over the national predators four1. A couple of things here. Wyatt Johnson, congratulations. First NHL goal, first NHL game. Suter sends it down low, waiting for the shot. There it is!

And he scores! Wyatt Johnson! With his first NHL goal at just 19 years of age. That was real nice. Taylor Sagan with three points. But in the spirit of we don't cheer for teams, we cheer for players, I think it's safe to say, Elliot, everybody in the NHL, either on the ice or around the game or in the stands,

is cheering for Mason Marchman. Two goals yesterday. stands is cheering for Mason Marchman. Two goals yesterday. The first one where he deeped out Roman Yossi was just, was just gorgeous, Elliot. Right in front, Ottinger with the save on Michael Gratner. There's the second attempt. He pokes it away with a stick.

It's still loose. Alexander Carey can't handle it. And Mason Marchman working this one out. He's in alone. Marchman takes the shot. He scores. Marchman. And Mason Marchment working this one out. He's in alone. Marchment takes the shot. He scores. Marchment, the new acquisition. Free agent signing for Dallas in the offseason.

That's his first goal as a star, and it's 1-0. That signing pays off right away. What a toe drag early on Yossi. Freezes Saros, goes over the blocker. Peter DeBoer said it was visions of Mario Lemieux and if you go back and watch it too he almost starts from a dead stop like he's almost completely stopped when he starts that play it's a wonderful goal by Mason Marchman who was front and center last night fantastic goal absolutely fantastic goal and it kind of goes back to what we were talking about there

with Philadelphia and the Devils. I always look for the teams who win on the road on opening night. Because you know what happens is the home team, the fans are jacked, the team is jacked, and they went in there against the predators which is a really tough place to play like that is one of the hard rings to play in on the road and what do they do they almost pitch a shot out against a pretty talented team yeah like that's an impressive impressive win i i really like dallas i think they're a really good team i i do i and i think

they've got a nice little blend there of um some veterans and some kids who really are good and the thing that i that was probably the best omen for them is tyler sagan three assists yep when tyler sagan plays it's not just him versus the opponents it's him versus his body and i'm not expecting him to stay on pace for 246 assists jeff but not like mcdavid who's on pace for 246 goals and 328 penalty minutes like he could have the ultimate rick tockett season he's on pace for it but i just think if you can get consistent offense from singing that's a's a big Wubble U for Dallas. They looked excellent. And by the way, something I want to mention about the Stars is

they're starting up their own internal Hall of Fame, and at the end of the month, they're inducting Bob Ganey and Ken Hitchcock. So that's October 29th, 30th weekend, so I wanted to mention that too. But they looked excellent on game one. And you're right Marchment there's a lot of people rooting for him though I would bet a lot of people who were who are rooting for him probably didn't predict he would undress Roman Yossi on night one was quite spectacular as DeBoer says visions of Lemieux and that would be the goal against

Raymond Bork in his first game uh New York Rangers over the Minnesota Wilds. 7-3 is the final. Four points for Panarin, one plus three. The line with him, Trocek, and Lafreniere looked great. Chris Kreider with a pair. Marcus Foligno and Ryan Reeves throw down. This in response to the Keandre Miller hits, who, by the way, is an RFA at season's end.

And the way that money is going for RFAs, it could be a very interesting season slash offseason for country miller he goes to start him with 33 saves matthew boldy by the way yes he can do it even without kevin fiala elliott he has a pair of goals but the story is the rangers are good full stop they're excellent you know one thing about miller that's interesting about it is i agree with you i think he's a phenomenal player. One thing I saw during the playoffs last year is that he's one of those guys who might be a great player without the counting stats.

So I'm always fascinated to where those contracts go. It's kind of like Jonas Brodine. People say about Brodine, he's going to play for 15, 20 years. He's never going to put up great numbers because that's not his game but he's just going to be an impactful player on the ice without doing it I think about that when I think about Miller hang on hang on a sec did you just see what Matthias Samuelson signed for that's a really good point you've got me on that that's a large number but even still we're saying hmm who who wins in this deal the Buffalo Sabres or Matthias

Samuelson yeah like that's what I'm saying like everyone's getting paid right now and i look at keandre miller and i'm like okay look what samuelson just got let's begin there i'm not used to you making really good arguments against me but that's that's a really good argument until in the morning i've had two cups of coffee i'm i'm good to go but you know the thing about the rangers is i think it was amber who picked them to win the stanley cup and because we worked the I had two cups of coffee. I'm good to go. But, you know, the thing about the Rangers is, I think it was Amber who picked them to win the Stanley Cup. And because we worked the opening night, the U.S. doubleheader with Anthony.

Yeah. And, you know, he said to me, do you think that's a bad pick? And I said, no, I don't think it's a bad pick. You know, what did we talk about? That we really felt that the Rangers had a chance if they ease the load on Shusterkin a little bit. And look at their first two games. They've taken what I think are two Stanley Cup contenders, the Lightning and the Wild,

and the Wild on the road, as we talk about at their home opener, and they've beaten them 10-4. Obviously, I watched a ton of that one on opening night. They overwhelmed Tampa. They were too fast for them. And I didn't watch as much of that one on opening night. They overwhelmed Tampa. They were too fast for them. And I didn't watch as much of that one last night, but what I saw, and I saw what the wild coach, Dean Everson, had to say. Oh, sure.

I mean, were we surprised? Yeah, I guess. You know, again, we thought our start was great. We thought our energy was good. We thought our opportunities were great. We thought our penalties were stupid as hell, which has already been addressed, obviously, and will be again. And even if they don't score, they gain momentum off of it,

and obviously they did on one of the first two. Now, I don't think you're going to do this for 82 games a season, but the Rangers have sent a message that they're fast and they can overwhelm you. This is going to be a really fascinating team to watch this year because they're sending a message early. They're a top contender, and I'm impressed. The Mesa Marchment play was the play of the night, clearly,

but number two, the first power play goal by the Rangers, the Chris Kreider goal. Panarin to Zibanejad, backdoor to Chris Kreider. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Just firing the puck around. Was a thing of beauty. Blitz pass off the wall. Rangers get reset as Panarin has it back at the near wing.

Cross ice pass to Zibanejad to Kreider, who scores! He batted it out of the air, and the Rangers score on the power play and take a 1-0 lead. The Maple Leafs correct the ship. They beat the Washington Capitals three to two Matthews with the game-winning goal in the third period uh Elias Samsonov with the win against his former teammates the Washington Capitals is all right in Leafland now Elliot I don't like to overreact after one game and I don't like to call game two of 82 a big one, but in his own way, Sheldon Keefe made that a big game.

When you come out after game one and you say what he had to say, and it's not only what he said, but the way he said it. Like, you have to watch him. You have to look at his face, his eyes, the intensity, the way he says it. I mean, there's nothing wrong with our effort. It was just careless. Yeah, it was just careless. Like I said, I expect more.

Our group should expect more. Not good enough. What do you think of Matt Murray's first outing here? I thought our guys had to be hung out to dry. It's one of the most dangerous teams in the NHL on the rush. Ever since their coaching change last year, they established themselves

as one of the most dangerous teams on the rush. Caulfield, Anderson, these guys are some of the most dangerous shooters there are off the transition. We talked about that this morning, talked about it before the game.

What does a power play need to do to get clicking here? That made game two a big game. He threw down the gauntlet right away. And I thought Toronto was a lot better. I thought they were very deserving of the victory. And there's two things I worry about the Maple Leafs. Number one is that I don't think they're overly quick.

They're showing that in transition, if they make mistakes like they did against the Canadians, they're going to be in big trouble and teams are going to get odd man rushes and beat them down the ice. So when you're built like that in today's NHL, like you look at the Rangers and how fast they look, for example, if you're built like that in today's NHL, you have to be so disciplined and you have to be so smart at where you play to prevent that from happening.

You have to A, not make the turnovers, and B, you have to be in position if they happen. And they were better on night number two, but it says to me that Keefe clearly feels that there's a certain way that Toronto has to play to win and they can't vary from it. Now, the other concern I have for them is right now, and again, it's game two,

is still what's the goaltending going to be? Murray had a rough night in game one and the two goals on Samsonov in game two, I'm sure he feels great. He beat his former team. There's nothing better than that feeling. But those were two tough goals, so I'm not sure what we're going to see here.

I think the one other thing that really stood out to me in game two for Toronto was at the end of the game, who did they put on the ice to protect it? Justin Holl. He had a nightmare game one. He had a bad end of the game who did they put on the ice to protect it justin hall he had a nightmare game one he had a bad end of game there poor play on the on the winning goal but at the end of the game they put him on the ice and he had a great couple of shifts to save it and that's big i mean one thing i watched with holloway in edmonton was he had a giveaway on the first goal against washington against vancouver

and woodcroft put him out there again a shift later now i didn't get a ton of time but i thought it was interesting he put him out there a shift later hall they put him out there at the end of the game gave him a chance to redeem himself and he did and i think as a coach that's all you can do is take your players and say, I'm trying to put them in the best possible position to feel good about themselves so we can win. Jonathan Huberto, one assist Nazem Kadri,

one assist McKenzie Weeger, two assists. The Calgary flames beat the Colorado avalanche five to three in their home opener. You grabbed the in-season cup from Aaron Ambrose. I'm going to get to that before you jump all over it and dylan dube scores again a strategy actually won like i can't believe i planned a strategy and it actually worked yeah well done uh and dylan dube scores uh again nine out of the last 10 regular season games dylan dube has found the back of the nets. It was back-to-back for the Colorado Avalanche.

They lose to the Flames 5-3, to which Elliot Friedman says what? Well, great night for Calgary. Great opening night win. Makes everybody feel really good about themselves. Like you said, it was a tough back-to-back for Colorado. You can't give them power plays. You cannot give them power plays. The Flames did, and Colorado got in there and won.

I thought Uyghur looked great too. But that Huberto-Lindholm pair, they could score a goal or two this year. I think it's possible Lindholm might beat five goals with the two of those guys playing together. Holy smokes. I know. It's real nice. Although, I mean, Dubé with Kadri and Mangiapane looks really nice too.

Yes. There's a few looks here for calgary that are pretty intriguing they were one of the teams you had to watch last night just because of all the change and you wanted to see how it all how it all worked out i have to say too jeff i want to say also that you talked about my faux tan or whether or not i had a faux tan nobody had a better tan than ryan leslie. I didn't realize the sun stayed up in Calgary until October. Oh, yeah. Because Leslie came out there last night, and he was baked. He had a funny night.

I don't know if you saw it, but did you see the thing he did on Bradtree Living? Oh, yeah. With the Timmy Trumpet music, like Diaz, the Met pitcher, walking into the building. So good. Okay, Brad, you're living associated with Diaz of the Mets, almost the closer after the work he did. Flames fans absolutely loving the work he did. But you know what?

It wasn't always easy because he had some work to do to dig out with the departures of Kachuk and Goudreau, and he started thinking about what former president of the Calgary Flames... And they also showed the box that Caudry got his ring in. And it's a beautiful box and it has on the inside a little screen with video of Colorado celebrating the Cup. Tampa did that a year ago. I think they were the first team to do it.

Although, if I'm wrong, someone's going to correct me. No one would ever call us out here on Twitter about a mistake we make on the podcast. A couple of more here. I want to get to Seattle, LA, but first Buffalo beats the Ottawa Senators 4-1. J.J. Paterka scores. That's real nice.

Craig Anderson, 35 saves. Victor Olofsson with a pair. That Paterka line with Cousins and Krebs looked real nice. Your thoughts on what we saw between the Swords and the Sens? I thought Craig Anderson wrote another incredible chapter last night. uh your thoughts on what we saw between the swords and the sends i thought craig anderson wrote another incredible chapter last night he was unreal he's only the oldest player in the nhl

elliott i know it's amazing so one of the rumors uh flying around jeff about anderson is that he does not take his gear home in the summer and I asked somebody about that and they told me that's true. So just think about that. Doesn't take his gear home all summer. He's 41 years old, shows up, just basically starts putting it on at training camp, works his way into shape and stones the Senators in the season opener. I mean, the story couldn't even be more ridiculous. in the season opener. I mean, the story couldn't even be more ridiculous. And then his wife, Nicole, jokes that they're like Tom Brady and Giselle with Mark Mathot on Twitter.

That's really good. What a performance last night. And I have to say, on the Game 1 overreaction meter, some of the discourse I saw about the Senators last night was up there. I don't think you can overreact to that. I didn't think they played too badly and Anderson beat them. Anderson just beat them.

One of the things I'm going to be curious about this year is what happens with Zaitsev because, you know, he didn't play last night. Yeah, Zub was in. I don't think I have any issue with that. You go with your best 60 and Sanderson, for example, looks really good, but I just don't know if that's going to work with him sitting all year.

So I wonder how Otto was going to try to do this, but I wouldn't overreact to the one game. I thought Anderson stole it. Seattle four, LA one, the Kings fall to Owen two, a couple of things in this game. After playing just over six minutes in game one, Shane Wright was scratched for this one.

Brant Clark makes his NHL debut on the blue line for the Los Angeles Kings. Played 15 minutes and 17 seconds. And it was interesting. Todd McClellan after said something to the effect of, we dressed six defensemen. He wasn't number six he wasn't number five and i don't believe he was number four he had a real good night uh speaking of

brant clark if you're the barry colts of the ohl you hate to hear that you're happy for the kid but that means you might not be getting back one of the best players in the ohl we wish he would have stunk yes um so shane right scratch br. Brent Clark has a nice night in the losing effort. And Matt Beneers with one assist. He has points in 11 of the 12 NHL games that he's played, Elliot. He's bigger than I thought he was. And he looks like he's 30. Yeah, he's like, I really had a chance to watch him last night

against the Kings. And he carries himself really confidently. Like he's a big guy. He's listed at six, two, but he's not listed really heavy one 75. And I'm, I'm looking at Wikipedia here, which is always accurate, but he, he looks bigger than that. Like he just looks like a big man and he's very confident carrying the puck. Like I said, I picked Power for the Calder this year. It's going to be hard. There's going to be a lot of good rookies this year.

And the thing about Beniers, too, is I think McTavish is obviously a guy who's going to be in this, too. I think Power has an advantage because he plays deep, so he's going to play more. But this might come down to which team does the best and seattle should have four points they have three but they should have four they played one bad period elliot one bad period and it cost them against the ducks and this berniers man he looks like an absolute grand slam of a pick and a player for the kraken now the kraken are going to sit

here and they're going to say look look, we got three out of four points and you're talking about a guy who isn't playing, but I do wonder what the plan here is for right. I trust Ron Francis and his overall vision. I think if anything, Francis gets accused of it's being too cautious, which I think in today's world is not necessarily a bad thing, but I have to believe he's got a plan for this. And I would put my faith in him because if you take a look at Carolina, Carolina's roster is full of guys who he went slowly with

who turned out to be good players. So I definitely give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm curious about it here, though, because there's no point in him playing in the OHL. I don't think that makes any sense. I'm just really curious to see how Seattle's going to go about this. You know, one thing that they might do,

and again, this is only two games, but I wonder about sending him to the World Juniors and then bringing him back. Yeah. Again, a lot of it will depend, obviously, on his play, on where Seattle is at, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But I don't think that's the worst idea.

It's only game two, so we're still really early here and there's a lot of time before that. But if this is the way it's going to go, it makes a lot of sense. There is your Friday morning update. For our great players and our great fans, welcome to opening night of the 2022-23 NHL season. What's better than this?

Good luck to all players. Let's have a great season. Well, thank you very much, Chris Rooney. Welcome to 32 Thoughts, the podcast. Once again, Jeff Merrick alongside Elliot Friedman and Amil Delic. Hey, Elliot, you know what happened to me this week? You ate lettuce. That did happen, but

more specifically, as we say in the Atlantic, I got dunked on hard. By who? Philadelphia Flyers fans. Why? Were all over me. Well, remember last podcast, we were talking about the Flyers

and whether the Flyers or their fans would stomach a rebuild. And I said, I don't really know whether the marketplace has an appetite for that. Oh, they were all over you? the marketplace has an appetite for that. Oh, they were all over you. Oh, all over me,

though. We don't mind a rebuild. We just want to see a direction. If they have to tear it down to build it back up, we're fine with that. We'll go through it. It's never happened here. It was,

and I'm still getting the tweets and bless them. Bless all Flyers fans for Duncan on me on this one. So based on Philadelphia hockey, Twitter, I could not have been more wrong in saying that Philadelphia Flyers fans for dunking on me on this one. So based on Philadelphia hockey Twitter, I could not have been more wrong in saying that Philadelphia Flyers fans won't sit through a rebuild. What do you think about that? Well, I think that 31 other fan bases will soon find out you can be more wrong about certain things.

That's number one. You know what happens? I'm convinced, Jeff. What's that? Sometimes we just forget that the philly sports fan because they have this reputation as being a bunch of negative nancies they're actually really sophisticated and smart fans and they do have a good view on their team and you know what should be going on around there or what they think should be going on around there. And so I can't say I'm incredibly surprised that they would be insulted that you would question their heart for anything, to be perfectly honest.

In a way, I was kind of surprised because when you say that a marketplace doesn't have a stomach for a rebuild, I kind of, if I'm a fan, I kind of take it as flattering that you, you, you, you won't have a stomach for deliberately being bad, but flyers fans did not take it that way. But fans don't see it like that way. Basically,

if you say they don't have the stomach for something, you're calling them cowards. That's the way people react to it. Whether it's right or wrong. You're not brave enough to be awful. You're not brave enough. You don't have the stomach for losing. You guys aren't tough enough to be awful. You're not brave enough to stink. You don't have the stomach for losing. You guys aren't tough enough to be bad.

Take that, Philadelphia Flyers fans. No, I get it. Like, honestly, almost as soon as the podcast was published, right away, Flyers fans on me, zomp, fast. Well, first of all, I do want to say one thing. I also do think that it is harder for a lot of teams to tank out of COVID. Because of all the money that's been lost? Yes.

Not everybody, obviously, because some teams are doing it, but some. You know who I wondered about that with? Who? Vancouver. Because the Canadian teams got hit really hard, really hard, harder than the American teams, most of them anyway. We all expected Vancouver to be sending bodies out the door and, you know, we're loading up

on our picks and, you know, developing prospects and stuff. And next thing you know, it's no, they're not. They're just reloading what they have right now and they're going for the playoffs. Off the Vancouver Canucks page, back to Philadelphia. Joel Farabee is interesting for a number of reasons. One, he's a big piece of the puzzle here and the future for the Philadelphia Flyers.

But two, I'd be curious your thoughts on this one. Joel Farabee now becomes the third player to undergo disc replacement. Jack Eichel, the first, Tyler Johnson, the second, and now Joel Farabee is the third. We wondered about this after Eichel's surgery. He looked good the other night, I thought. He really did look good. And that's great for Vegas. Great for Eichel and great for Vegas and

great for Kelly McCrimmon. We wondered if this was going to be the beginning of a new way to handle these types of injuries and whether, you know, we're going to point at this and say, you know, this will be whatever Jack Eichel does in the NHL, whatever he does in his career,

part of his legacy is going to be, he was the first one that had this surgery, which is now commonplace. Do you think we're now getting to that spot? Now, Farabee is the third. Clearly. Yes.

Because more than one person has done it. Look, as you know, Jeff, we took a lot of heat for the positions that we took during that whole situation. There were people who were not happy with us. And my whole belief at the time was I think people should get the choice to the medical care that they want to have. And it's your body and you should get to control the kind of medical care that you choose to get. And, you know, it's only, it hasn't even been a year since Eichel's had his. So even though he looked great the other night, I think it's still too soon to be doing any victory laps. There's still more we have to see and learn here

but i am hopeful that this is something that not only players can see as positive for them but even teams can see as positive for them what we forget here is that the reason that the sabres fought eichel so hard on this was that at the time there was no real evidence that it could work. And I hope that... In hockey, in hockey, in hockey. In hockey, yes, yes, yes. You're right. Thank you for that.

And I hope that by Eichel doing it and Johnson doing it and now Farabee does it and anyone else who does it comes back and has a good career because it's a solution not only for the players, but for the teams as well. And ultimately, that's the victory I think we all want. It is. By the way, I wanted to give the Flyers real credit about the Tortorella series.

Or I guess I'm calling it the Tortorella series because he was the star. Because he's dominating. But the four-part series that they did called The Standard. It was so good. No, just call it the Tortorella series. The Tortorella show. You know, before the season started, there's been so much good stuff I've been watching.

I've been watching Cobra Kai, fantastic. I know a lot of people out there are watching Dahmer. Fantastic. My wife tells me this thing. The patient is really good. This cat series is good, but I have to say nothing I saw was better than the Tortorella show in Philadelphia. Yeah.

That thing was so, and, and I say this too, and we always talk about it all along the show, but also the people who do this, the editors. A good editor makes such a difference. And the way that bit was cut was so well done. I always wondered how you won an award as best editor when you don't know what was actually cut. How can you judge a good editor until you know what's on the floor? That's a great question, but I think you can tell, are you entertained by the piece?

Oh no, no, I get it. Like I'm saying this tongue in cheek. Cause you can just see some things. No, I think that's actually a legitimate question. But I've always wondered about that. Like, how do you judge best editor until you know, like, okay, so here's the raw and here's what they, and here's what they got to afterwards. But I know like there's some pieces you can see and go, okay went on too long okay yeah they've beaten this point uh to death yes you

know let's just let's just move on with it here like oh man this thing needs a good editor so i i do say that tongue-in-cheek but nonetheless yes a good editor you know what almost texted me by the way on the other day after he was cutting the uh eastern conference podcast what's that he said i cut 35 minutes out of this because you were too repetitive. So that's a good idea. And even still, that pod came in at like an hour 40. Yeah. Okay, so we're a couple of days into,

well, I mean, the season started last week in Prague with Nashville taking two from San Jose, but we're a couple of days deep into the North American NHL action. Which teams have impressed you or turned your heads? Like we'll get to the kids in Montreal. We'll get to Edmonton. We'll get to Vancouver.

We've seen them. We started with the Philadelphia Flyers, any American teams or American performances jump out at you as a, and I know it's only a game in and you say, Hmm, we'll see if this continues. Opening night, Madison square garden.

I thought the Rangers looked really fast. Yep. Really fast. As a matter of fact, watching that second game between Vegas and the Kings, because of how fast the Rangers looked and how much jump the Rangers had, I thought that Kings versus Golden Knights game looked slow, and it wasn't. It was just that the Rangers looked that fast. Tampa had a real hard time keeping up with the Rangers in that game. And again, it's, it's one of 82, but I really was impressed with them.

I'll say this too. Someone called me on a, on Wednesday morning and said, I know Zibanejad's making an eight and a half million, but he's underpaid. He may be the most underrated superstar in the nhl but i think you made this point on television when at sportsnet we were asked to submit our top 10 players in the nhl i don't know that anybody at our shop would have had mikas abinijad there or anybody really outside of a diehard new york rangers fan who but mikas abinijad in there but if you look at his performances the last few seasons and you know tuesday night against tampa he was spectacular

with two gorgeous goals and should have had three on that empty netter as well i don't know man like as far as first line center centers go and first line centers get all the attention except for mikasa benachat and he really deserves to be considered amongst those other greats yeah he was fantastic that one, I said it on TV that night. The shorty? The first goal. The shorthanded goal. Where he was on the edges.

I can't do that in my shoes, what he does on his skates. With my own two feet. The other thing also I was thinking was the power plays. Edmonton's power play changed their game around. And I know the Vancouver fans were mad about the missed call on Quinn Hughes. And yes, they missed the call and it led to a goal and that stunk, but there were still 30 plus minutes to play, right? Like you can't let that ruin your game.

But also Colorado scored four times on their power play. So good teams with good power plays right from the start of the season, Edmonton and Colorado are sending you messages that you cannot give them extra opportunities. The other team I was really impressed with, and it wasn't the game I was really watching on Wednesday night, but I was really impressed with Anaheim. They were down 4-1 to Seattle. They had every reason to fold and they came back and they won that game. And when you're rebuilding and that's your home opener, you send everybody home happy. Everybody who left that game in Anaheim is going to be saying, I'm coming back and I'm

buying a ticket for another night. And I think when you're a rebuilding team, that's what you want to get out of your home opener. You want a night where people are saying, I want to come back and I want to see this again. And Anaheim sure did that. How'd you like that line of Strom, McTavish, and Troy Terry? Terry, of course, with the overtime heroics, but your boy McTavish looked real good for age.

Really good. Yeah, they looked good. They looked really good. Yeah, you look at them. I know they're playing McTavish on the left side right now. I mean, he is a center. That's where he's going to play. If you believe in that you're,

and this has been told many times, if you're going to win the Stanley Cup, down the middle in net, Anaheim's pretty close to running out. Trevor Zegers down the middle, Mason McTavish down the middle, Ryan Strom down the middle, Isaac Lundestrom,

who was like a poor man's Patrice Bergeron, down the middle. They look, Dallas A who was like a, you know, a poor man's Patrice Bergeron down the middle. Like they look, Dallas Aikens has a real luxury here or is going to have a luxury here in a couple of seasons when these guys all fully mature. Strom's already there, of course, but they look good down the middle for each. They really, really look good down the middle.

I think Boston too. Boston was another team I was really impressed with. Like Crecce should take a year off every season, comes back and gets four points. Are you talking about the checkmates? Yeah, that's a good name. Dale Arnold came up.

Dale Arnold. As you said, it was Dale Arnold, right? Yeah, Dale Arnold. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He looked really good. Someone said to me, did this raise the price on Pasternak this morning? You know what my answer to that is?

No, because the price is already high. There's no dispute between the Bruins and Pasternak about what the guy is worth. I think everybody understands it. I just think it's, you know, what's the number going to be and all that. But, you know, McAvoy goes to 975 and you know me,

I'm right on top of the McAvoy train, so I've got no problem with that. But if you're going to take McAvoy to 975, you have to understand what that's going to mean for Pasternak. And I'm sure the Bruins are saying to him, look, we know it's going to be eight figures, and I would expect it's going to be eight figures. That's just my impression.

That's what I think. I'd be personally surprised if it wasn't. Obviously, I think they're going be personally surprised if it wasn't. Obviously, I think they're going to sit here and say, what is that going to mean exactly? But you think four points on opening night, all of a sudden the Bruins are waking up here and saying, oh, we've got to pay him even more money?

No. They know that they're going to have to pay this guy a ton. He's going to get a ton. I just think it's a matter of what a ton means. You know what I'm just really happy about? David Krejci is back in the NHL. I'll tell you one thing about him too, is he's a really good talker. Just a person who over the years, I've asked him just to point some things out to me, why things happen on the ice.

And I don't know if he's got teachers in his family, but he's really good at explaining things to dumb hockey broadcasters. He's always been very good about, that's one of the things I missed about not being on the, at ringside is talking to guys like that, who I knew I could go to and I could say, can you explain to me why this happens? And he would tell me this is why this happens.

I always liked that about him. Let me ask you, cause I have a very specific name for this. When, when he's explaining things to, as you call them, dumb sports casters, does he try to coach everything in sports language or use sports examples? The word that I use to describe it is speaking Sportuguese. I like that. So you can only use sort of sports lingo to explain things to dumb guys like you and me.

He didn't. And you know what I think the reason was, and this is just a theory without asking him, is that I think it's because English is not his first language. And I find that when you deal with people who, whether they're Czech or Swedish or whoever, they don't do that because they don't understand the colloquialisms, right? Right. So he just gives it to you straight.

And that's another reason I really like to talk to him. That's another reason why I had a lot of fun at the, at the European tour, the players media tour in Paris is to your point, they just guys just give it to you straight. I love talking and we were talking about this during the tour. I just love talking to, to European hockey players as filterless as they come.

Oh, you know what I should, I want to get your thoughts on. What's that? One very specific question about the Matthias Samuelson contract. Yeah. This is seven years, $30 million. Who's taking the bigger risk, Kevin Adams or Matthias Samuelsson?

That's a great question. I think it depends on who you ask, right? Because you may look at it and say, whoa, that's a lot of money. Or then you may look at it and say, well, hang on a second. If this guy continues to play as we've seen so far, and I know that it's the offensive guys that get paid, If this guy continues to play as we've seen so far, and I know that it's the offensive guys that get paid, but last time Jacob Slavin was making a pretty good living with the Carolina Hurricanes, could he actually make more?

Could he actually be hurting himself by locking in at that number for seven years? What do you think? I did have some people who told me that. The best line I heard was when you got $30 million and he hasn't scored yet, someone said to me, you've got hope, Elliot. You haven't scored an NHL goal either. Maybe you could make $30 million. I said, I'll take it. Where do I sign? I'll do that right now. I did have people who said to me that they think on the back end of that deal, Samuelson will regret it, that he will be worth more than that.

And that's fine. I think that, but I think right now it's clear he's ahead of it. And, you know, I do subscribe to the theory that Buffalo is going to have to pay Deline. They're going to have to pay power. They could have to pay both these guys a lot. Dylan Cousins. Dylan Cousins. And they're just saying, look, we want to know what our numbers are.

But the thing I remember, and I didn't remember this to actually, I was making the notes for this podcast, Jeff, is that last year when I was talking about Buffalo's D and I was talking about, you know, they have, they have power. they have Darlene like they got good young D anybody remotely connected to the organization or even some people who played against them said don't forget Samuelson like this guy's a player he may be raw and he may be young but this guy is a player so there was respect for him now I had a really interesting comment from someone who said you know the Sabres haven't learned from their Tyler Myers mistake and it's interesting but you know that was a long-term deal even longer than this more money

from a player who won rookie of the year and I thought about that a bit maybe i will concede the argument if somebody wants to make it you know the one thing that i will say this about buffalo is years ago and i've talked about this piece before when the pagulas bought the team they spent a lot of money on players who were not in buffalo before christian erhoff villano. Yeah. And it really screwed up their dressing room. Like some of their players who were there and, you know, Pollenville was there. Derek Roy was there.

And I can't remember who specifically said it to me, but they admitted it screwed up their dressing room. And the one thing I will say is, is if you're going to air, you never want to, but air with the guys, you know, because I think what it's going to air, you never want to, but air with the guys, you know, because I think what it's going to do is you've got a team there that seems

really close, Jeff. Yeah. And now you can, and now they're going to look and they're going to say, Hey, this guy who's one of us, he was the one who got rewarded.

And I think on a team like that, it does resonate. You know, that's not just about the players either. That's about the general manager. That just about the players either that's about the general manager that's about the coach that's about hang on we've tried doing it with people we didn't know now we're going to the ones that we do we all know the association with kevin adams and the pagula family and how far back that stretches you know we look at granado like i

can't help but thinking you know somewhere there's going to be a promotion for Seth Appert, who's, who's coaching in Rochester right now too. Like it does seem very much like right now that is the vibe around the Sabres. These are our people. These are the ones we're going forward with. I don't think that's just players for each. I think that's at a lot of levels for Buffalo. Yeah. I'm not going to argue with you on this one, Merrick.

Look at some of the teams we've talked about who've handed out big deals this year, Calgary, earth shattering summer, Ottawa trying to rebuild consumer confidence in the market and Buffalo. I think the same thing. I think they were farther ahead of Ottawa. I think the end of last season really went a long way for them, but you're still trying to build it. Right. And same thing with the Islanders, like Barzell, that one also,

like people look at his counting stats and said, are you guys nuts? He's theirs. And you're rebuilding consumer confidence in the team after a really tough, tough year. And Tavares left a couple of years ago. I think people forget from time to time the market forces in negotiations and that's part of it for me with the Sabres uh I also want to

throw in Mike Weber and Mike Peck his name in there too when you're looking at like within the Sabres organization don't be surprised if these names pop up more and more anyway um you mentioned Matthew Barzell for a second I am curious because this conversation will continue until they sign new deals or something else happens to them. How much did that Barzell deal change things, if at all, for Dylan Larkin and Beau Horvat? And I'll frame it this way. When the Edmonton Oilers were negotiating with Darnell Nurse for an extension, there was a number and there was a term that we all looked at and said, okay, that's probably where Darnell Nurse is going to settle in. And I think everyone was kind of close to it. And then Seth Jones signed that whopper of a contract.

And I got a text from someone like right away and it was just Darnell nurse just went up so Matthew Barzal signs a deal with the Islanders where's the where's the effect where's the where's the where's the shock waves most felt well we've talked about this a little bit so I don't want to repeat myself too much because all gets on me when I when I repeat myself too much but it's affected the market it's affected Larkin and it's affected Horvat. You know, we'll see. You know, I think Detroit understands that they like Larkin a lot,

but I think there's a limit to where they're willing to go and we'll see what that means. I think with Vancouver, look, I've talked a lot about Horvat and what I think his market value is and I don't like to repeat myself a lot. You know, the one thing I'd say is that Jim Rutherford and Pat Morris, those guys have been around, and Morris is the agent for Horvat. Those guys have been around a long time. Like, Jim

Rutherford has been around since fire was invented, and Pat Morris, not quite as old, but close. And these guys have done millions of negotiations. They've seen this up and down. I just refuse to believe that two people with this much experience can't find a way to get it done. And number 31, number 31, Carey Price!

Speaking of getting it done, the Montreal Canadiens on their opening night got it done. Before the game, with the ceremony and the ovation for Carey Price, and then on the ice, with Nick Suzuki, Cole Caulfield, and the Maple Leaf killer, Josh Anderson. Back to the line, googly shot, walked in front, but... Muzzle game wins!

First game, first win. Good job, Martin St. Louis. Your thoughts on the Habs? Very good. I was shocked he didn't challenge the 3-3 goal. Here's why I think he made the right call. First of all, that is so close. It was close.

It was super close. I'm glad that I didn't have to make the decision, but I would have made the same, and here's why. In that game, I want to make sure I at least get a point because if you make that call and you're wrong and there was probably a good, because that's not definitive, so they're probably going to err

on the side of we're going to give this one to the officials on the ice. Then you put the Maple Leafs on the power play and there's only so long you can tempt fate with that power play

and they score, then you squander at least that one point. This one at least gives you a shot at getting the point and getting it into overtime. That's my feeling when it's that close in that situation. But I know you disagree. I know you disagree. No, you know what? It's not that I disagree. I think you actually make a really good argument and one that I wish I had thought of in the moment. My feeling was I

have a young team. I don't know what my year is going to be. Why shouldn't I challenge it? You might as well just go for it. There's two minutes left in the game. And I agree with you. I think it was really close. Now, I think your argument's excellent and you turned out to be right. And I have to admit, I was impressed he didn't challenge it. I would have.

But one of the things I found out later was I made a couple of calls and what someone told me was that the league has told the teams, we're not overturning really close calls. And basically, I heard the verbiage that was used was, don't ask us to make a hope call for you. If it's close, we're not doing it. We have to have real reason to believe we overturn and i don't think they would have had real reason to overturn that one so he made the right call i don't know if i would have done the same thing but he made the right call we've talked a lot about rookies and who's good everybody knows my love for jack eye that there may be another defense, young defenseman in the zone. I thought Ghouli was great. Almost 23 minutes for each.

Yeah. Well, he led, he led nice time. Like he was that good. He was excellent. Caden Ghouli was fantastic. One of the,

one of the visuals that I take away from that game, the visual of Arbor Jack guy at the bench after he gets, you know, tangled and commits the foul on Alex Kerfoot and the referee points to the dot, we're going penalty shot and you're a rookie and it's your first game and you've just caused a penalty shot

in a really tight game and you're sitting there on the bench, you know, Weidman's consoling him and the whole thing afterwards, like, hey, Park kid, kid, it's over. What a thing to have to go through in your first game. Like you always think of, okay, so you do the initiation lap and all these, like what are the things you go through in your first game. Like you always think of, okay, so you do the initiation lap and all these,

like what are the things you go through in your first game? Arbor Jack guy will say, yeah, I caused the penalty shot and I had to sit there and eat it while Weidman consoled me. I think if you're a coach, you're hoping that Weidman or another veteran will do something like that. I thought Goulet was great. I was really impressed with him.

And what I saw, and you can tell me if you think I'm wrong, what I saw is a Toronto team that's very worried about how it plays in transition. Because they got beaten down the ice three times. And those turned into three goals. So it says to me that the Maple Leafs know if these turn into track meets, they're going to finish in the Elliott Friedman position eighth so they just don't want that to happen.

This is also part of what Keith talked about post game was you know we know that under Martin St. Louis the Montreal Canadiens are a much better rush team that's where they create their offense this team is excellent on the rush and we saw that with the Caulfield Suzuki two-on-ones, specifically with that second one,

with the gorgeous pass from Nick Suzuki over to Cole Caulfield, who makes a beautiful and some would say perfect shot to salt it away. I think that was part of the frustration. It was like, we know how good Montreal is as a rush team, and we didn't do anything about it. I think that was part of it. He went out of his way to mention, under San Luis, this team moves the puck up the ice.

We did nothing to stop them. And as I said before, you hate repeating yourself. I hate saying the same thing about the Maple Leafs too. It's not an 82-game season. It's 82 one-game seasons. That's how this team is. I am proud to say, Jeff, I was right about one thing. What's that?

On Wednesday. When they were introducing all of the players on Montreal who were not in the lineup, I said, I bet you Price is here. And I can't remember who else, but someone else said to me, no, he's not going to be there. And I said, I bet you he is here. And I'm glad I was right because I don't often look smart. That's number one.

But I'm also glad I was right because I wanted to see him get that moment. if that was goodbye, Carrie price got his goodbye, right? And we just didn't know. And the thing is too, is he looks great. First of all,

I knew he was going to come out in a cowboy hat. That was the second thing I was right about. First of all, I got he was going to come out in a cowboy hat. That was the second thing I was right about. First of all, I got a text from someone with another team who said, when I saw the cowboy hat and the smoke, I thought it was the undertaker that was going to come out. Oh, is it Jake Allen should have been Paul Bearer,

like come up, come up, skate up with the urn. You know, Montreal, they do things right. They do their ceremonies right right it's very important and so I just had a feeling that he was going to be there and I thought it was a really nice moment and I know there were some fans out there I know some of you sent me tweets this is

this is taking too long you should only introduce the the key, whatever. Montreal, to me, is an exception because they always do it right. So I thought it was a great ceremony, and I was glad to see that Price got his part of it. And to me, he looked really good. He looked really refreshed. He looked really good. You know who said it right on the show last night? Who's that?

Leon Dreisaitl. So you played the piece that you did with uh with dry sidle when we were in paris and you had your spray tan and where leon talked about say this you that you're people were asking me if i had a spray on tan i said this to you on the radio today and i'm gonna say it again i am married do you does anybody out there think i feel that i have to look good for anyone again like until staff throws me out of the house i don't have to look for anybody good for anyone again so i'm not doing spray-on tans i'm not doing collagen lips i'm not doing botox no i'm not doing botox i'm not wearing a toupee i there's i am lazy now i have a wife i

don't have to impress anybody uh but you're not lazy like every time i call you it's like i'm going for a walk oh i'm on the bike oh i'm working out like i do want to get into better shape like that's taking good care of yourself that's not about like just fooling around with your appearance that is actually you know trying to live past 53. Okay. Well, well done. Uh,

but Dreis, you know, you talk to Dreisaitl and one of the things he said was he mused about, you know, Connor McDavid can score 60 goals. And then that game against Vancouver on Wednesday night, he showed that Leon Dreisaitl is right. And Connor McDavid,

if he wants it could probably score 60 goals for each. First of all, very unselfish play by Evander Kane. That's one thing to mention. Second thing was Ben Stelter. And the Oilers deserve a lot of credit for this. Yeah. Like paid proper respect to that young man and his family.

You know, Connor McDavid mentioned that to Scott Oak in the postgame interview. It was important to do that. Finally, I know it's never your preference to talk about personal milestones, but you reach 700 points tonight, three and one to get to 701, in fact, in 488 games. And I think that deserves a comment. Anything? You know what, tonight was for our buddy Ben. You know, we miss him, you know, for the whole Stelter family. We think about him. I said in an interview a little bit ago

that I think about him after big wins and tonight was a big win. I'm thinking about him. His famous saying was play the bomb a baby. I think we'll have to listen to that tonight. Perfect. Thanks for your time. I think the Oilers deserve listen to that tonight. Perfect. Thanks for your time. Thanks a lot. I think the Oilers deserve a lot of credit for the way they paid proper tribute to him.

Yep. But, you know, Dreisaitl, he's such a good talker. You know, we were very lucky to be given as much time as we were with him. And he delivered in a lot of ways. There was a moment I thought Vancouver was going to win that game, Jeff. When it was 3-0? nothing after because manco scored even even before that i i in the first period uh mcdavid had a chance where he's coming down the middle of the ice and demko made a blocker save off him and i was like wow like that was mcdavid from the slot and demko beat him i said this is this

is going to be Vancouver's night, which clearly was not as good as my carry price prediction. But I think one of the reasons that Drysaddle has been so open about this, and this was my theory after the game on Wednesday night, was that he knows that McDavid's going to do it, that McDavid agrees. Because I remember talking with Sidney Crosby and Jason Spezza about how they both were told they're too easy to defend because people know they're going to pass first.

Now, I would never say that McDavid is too easy to defend. I think that's a ludicrous statement, but I do think defenses can cheat because they know that he's going to pass first. So if Sidney Crosby realizes that and changed his game and Jason Spetsa realized that and changed his game, certainly Connor McDavid's going to do the same thing. And I think he's going to do it to make himself a more dangerous player.

Uh, I don't disagree. Well, one more thing I'd like to say about dry saddle. There was, there was one thing that was, was cut from the piece. Okay.

Sometimes editors take this as a shot. I thought we were praising editors like two seconds ago this is not a shot at michael attic who did a great job uh cutting that piece but when when he says it's expected that he wins the player poll for best passer there was a bit more of a conversation where i said to him because he says maybe i shouldn't say that or whatever he said. Expect it? No. I appreciate the honesty. I think, you know what, I really do think, Leon, that the fans out there

would love to hear the players be that kind of answer that you just gave. No. I take big, big pride in my passing. I do think that there are fans who like the more reserved nature of NHL players. Like, you know, whenever an athlete quote unquote brags, there are some people who like it and some people who don't. But I think in the NHL, there is room for a little more of that, the removal of the modesty, like less modesty.

I think we have room for that in our sport. And that's why I wanted to say that because I don't think there's a problem with a guy like Leon Dreissel saying that I expect myself to be the best passer in the league and I think I can be credited as such. I don't have a problem with that. Was Muhammad Ali one of, if not the greatest athletes of all time?

I found him to be incredibly modest Was Muhammad Ali one of, if not the greatest athletes of all time? I found him to be incredibly modest. Muhammad Ali? That was a joke. You know where I'm going with that one. Insert sarcasm font here. Wow. Jeez, get the hook out of your mouth, Merrick. I think you know where I'm going with that.

Okay. Yeah. I want to finish up by talking about Hockey Canada and there are more stories still to come and there's more information that we can present to you as it becomes available. So this was a big week. Scott Smith is no longer CEO of Hockey Canada,

and the board, whom I don't believe anyone was going to seek re-election anyhow, has announced that all of them will be stepping down by the time the AGM rolls around, which is on December the 17th. Now, there has been an interim governance review, which Hockey Canada has seen and has subsequently released. This is the Cromwell report, Elliot, that we've- It's a part of it, right? The full one is-

The full one is coming later. And again, all the recommendations that come out of the Cromwell report are just that, they're recommendations. This is an overview of governance of how Hockey Canada has conducted its affairs. It is up to the 13 members afterwards to enact whether they choose to do so or to not enact all the recommendations that former Justice Cromwell recommends here. There is a meeting this weekend as well, Elliot, on Saturday. And as we all know, this isn't a finish line.

This is only part of the process of a new Hockey Canada emerging from what it is now and what it was when this entire scandal began. I read some of the report and a few things. If I remember correctly, Jeff, he said that they should have sort of like an interim governance group for a year. Yeah. And that's true. Don't rush. Don't rush. Find the right people, put responsible placeholders in place. I thought it was also really interesting about how he said that one of the most controversial things that came out of this was that the fees were going to different funds to pay settlements. Some were injury settlements, some unfortunately were not.

And he said that that wasn't wrong, but what was dishonest was how much money was going to them and how they were administered. If I can add one thing, and one of the issues as well, and you're right, like the establishment of the fund is sound business practice. Everybody uses, everyone has funds set aside to settle lawsuits and claims that insurance won't cover. That is standard. Governments use that. Businesses use that. One of the issues as well is not reporting to the members those settlements. That was a big one from Justice Cromwell. Yes.

And as you said, there's a meeting on Saturday. So I'm sure Saturday night, we're going to have more information of it during hockey night in Canada. You know, the other thing I wanted to mention was the Ian Cole situation. And Ian Cole had his meeting with the NHL on Wednesday, and there was no formal resolution announced out of there. The Lightning played their second game of the season on Friday night in Columbus. And one of the things I had heard, and it's a very tricky situation, and I want to make

it very clear, we all understand the seriousness and the sensitivity of the situation. I think the thing that's become the biggest challenge for everybody involved was that the accusation came from one anonymous Twitter feed. And one of the things we've heard a lot behind the scenes in the past couple of days is, can you suspend someone based on one anonymous Twitter feed? And everybody is saying that these are serious allegations that need to be investigated and discovered. But if you don't get any more than that, are you setting too dangerous a precedent? get any more than that are you setting too dangerous a precedent and i think what they've been trying to do is see can they get any more information on this and that's what they have searched for more information but if they can't i do think throughout the sport people are saying

is this enough to suspend someone for and so i want I don't know when we're going to get clarity, but I do know that that's become a very big part of the conversation because it's not a precedent a lot of people feel comfortable setting. They understand why it had to happen in the moment and maybe a pause on the situation for a few days while they saw if they could get more information made sense. So I think one of the major parts of

conversation is if you can't find any more evidence than what we have already seen, how long is it okay to keep a player out of the lineup? Before reinstating him. Yes. As well, story continues. Um, our next podcast recording will be Sunday.

As Elliot mentions, uh, watch for 32 thoughts in the second intermission of hockey night in Canada this weekend, uh, at the next podcast, we should probably get back to doing now that we're full on and the season's begun is, uh, get to some emails and phone calls, get the thought line going again and get more interaction with everybody. Because on the one hand, it was great to be able to talk to everybody during the Boston Pizza 32 tour. That was a lot of fun. I got to meet a lot of our listeners in seven distinct Canadian markets and that was great.

Now let's get back to talking to people by email and by the phone line as well. So very much looking forward to that. And again, the thought line, as it's called, 1-833-311-3232. 1-833-311-3232. And the email, 32thoughtsatsportsnet.ca. We'll get to these on Sunday. Again, 32thoughtsatsportsnet.ca.

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