32 Thoughts: The Podcast - Shesterkin Was God Like

Episode Date: May 27, 2024

In this edition of 32 Thoughts, Jeff Marek and Elliotte Friedman recap Game 3 between the New York Rangers and Florida Panthers that saw Igor Shesterkin stand on his head as the Rangers stole the win in overtime. That conversation makes way for an update on the Blue Jackets' hiring of Don Waddell (19:43). Then, the fellas talk about the Winnipeg Jets making Scott Arniel officially their new head coach, and they ponder whether they can keep Sean Monahan (29:17). Jeff and Elliotte then delve into the open coaching vacancies in Seattle (31:19) and San Jose (31:45). The guys also talk about the aftermath of the Ryan McDonough trade and wonder whether Tanner Jeannot could be on the move as a result (35:50). They close the A block by discussing Czechia's gold medal performance at the World Hockey Championship and whether room should be made for them at the Four Nations Faceoff (40:10). The guys answer your questions in the Montana’s Thought Line (42:32).The guys wrap the podcast by revisiting Game 2 and previewing Game 3 between the Edmonton Oilers and Dallas Stars (57:20).Email the podcast at [e-mail] or call the Montana's Thought Line at 1-833-311-3232 and leave us a voicemailThis podcast was produced and mixed by Dominic Sramaty and hosted by Jeff Marek and Elliotte Friedman.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.

Sits free at the dot, Gulikov comes in to take it, Rangers get it back though, shot towards the net, scores! Lindgren's shot from the point, it's into the back of the net, and the Rangers remain perfect in overtime in these playoffs. Barkley-Gudrow was the story, no, Alexey Lafreniere was the story. No, Sam Reinhardt was the story. No, the Florida comeback was the story. No, the Jacob Truba elbow was the story. No, Igor Shcherkin was the story. No, the Alex Vinberg overtime tip was the story. 5-4 is the final.

We got a lot to unpack. 32 Thoughts, the podcast presented as always by the GMC Sierra Elevation. Elliot Friedman in Edmonton. Elliot, can you tell I'm a little bit excited about the game that I just saw? You know, every now and then you need a palate cleanse. Earlier in the afternoon, I watched that Blue Jays debacle against the Detroit Tigers. And when three o'clock Eastern rolled around, I was ready for a good game.

But I got a great one. Went into overtime, 5-4 is the final score. And as I ran down off the top, those are just a few of the things that we can pull out of this one. Flat out, one of, maybe the best game we've seen in these playoffs. That was awesome for each. Well, the ice was kind of tilted, Jeff. Well, the ice was kind of good, according

to Paul Maurice, too, in a not-so-subtle jab at the MSG ice with Emily Kaplan. That was a great shot, too. I don't know. I think the ice is really good tonight. Both teams are making passes and they're making plays. I don't think we saw that much in the first two games. Maybe a little bit more composure with the pucks. It seemed like in the first two,

there was a lot of ping pong in the neutral zone. I saw your tweet. I don't know if I would call it one of the best games of the playoffs. I would say it was a great game. It was a great game. Loved it. I just thought one team was too dominant for it to be one of the best games of the playoffs my rule of great games is that two teams have to be entertaining and relatively

evenly matched shisterkin was godlike yes he was yes he was like especially in the third period when i don't think the r Rangers touched the puck the entire period. Certainly not at the end. But I always have, I'll be honest with you, Elliot, I always have the voice of Kelly Rudy in the back of my head saying, don't apologize for having a great goaltender. Your goaltender is part of your team. And that's why whenever I say,

my default setting is the same as yours, but you're my, my, Oh God, what a great game. My 1987, the best year ever for hockey. My default setting to that is to agree with you, which is I want it a little more 50, 50. I want a little more evenly matched, but then you can make the point that one guy was evening it up for the New York Rangers. And that was Shushturkin. And again, to Kelly Rudy's yearly point, don't apologize for having a great goaltender. And that's why I'll say it was a great game. It was a great game by the Florida Panthers, a really good game by the New York Rangers, and an outstanding game for Igor Shushturkin.

How about that one? Yes, I think that's all very fair to say. If you're Florida, there's not much you can get too. How about that one? Yes, I think that's all very fair to say. If you're Florida, there's not much you can get too upset about in that one. You got beat. And you got beat by a great goalie, but you dominated the play. You probably,

I don't know what all the deserved meters out there say. It's not something I really look at, but I assume they were heavily skewed in favor of the Panthers. And you've got to believe if you're Florida, if you play four out of seven games like that, you're going to win a series, but you didn't win this one. And I know there's going to be a lot of talk about Jacob Truba and his defense attorney, Kevin Bieksa, but we didn't have a pod after the last game,

game two of this series, but one of the things I thought about when I saw Vesey get hurt and Ryan Lomberg, I thought did you have any problem with that hit? I didn't have a problem with that hit. I'm really sore to see

Vesey get hurt and miss time because I think he's a great story. I've got a lot of time for him because this was a highly regarded player who found another way to be successful in the NHL. And I have a great admiration for that. But I thought I didn't have any problem with Lomberg's hits. The one I thought was much dicier was the Kulikov one on Wenberg. And I was around some hockey company on Friday night when that hit came down. And they all thought that should have been a five. And we'll get to how you feel in a second. But I remember my reaction after that was going to be that game. You see Vesey get hurt.

You see Vesey get hurt. You see that hit. And we all know the Panthers are a physical, nasty team. It's part of their DNA, and it's why they're as good as they are. But really my reaction, Jeff, was going to be, what's Trouba going to be like in game three? Because there's two things I believe going through his head. Number one, Vesey's hurt and he's out. They've lost him for a while. And Trouba, like everyone's talking about Rampey,

but in a lot of ways, the Rangers' true physical leader is Trouba. And number two, he's your captain. And I have no doubt he's looking at this and he's saying, this is partly my job. I have to answer for this. So I was not surprised in the least, Jeff, that he had a wild game on Sunday. Because I'm thinking that he went for 48 hours or less than 48 hours because it was a Sunday afternoon game. He is all riled up about this. He is thinking, I have to answer.

This is my job. I have to answer. And so I'm not surprised in the least bit that he was the center of attention again. So you thought that he was thinking of Kul least bit that he was the center of attention again. So you thought that he was thinking of Kulikov and he was thinking of Lomberg when he stuck the elbow out against. No, no, no, no. I don't. Or that was just that was just like, this guy can't get around me. I've already got one minor penalty. I'm going to take, you know. Well, I think it's more. I think all of those things can be true to some degree. Like I don't think in that moment he's thinking about Vesey or Kulikov.

But I think for a day and a half, he's been thinking about them. And, you know, it's – Oh, his guy is getting pushed around. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. To me, that's inarguable, Jeff. You know Trouba.

You know the way he's wired. You know the game he's playing. You know the game he's playing. You know the game he plays. Of course he's going to be wired for that game. Now, they do have to stop this chicken wing. You know, he – and the one against Carolina when he went flying into the boards, he put the chicken wing out there too. Part of me was kind of like, all right, Kulivkov got two.

So after the review, they give Truba two. Maybe it's even. I don't know how you feel about this, but they do have to stop the chicken wing. I have no problem with Truba's train track hits if he lines you up if he lines you up and hits you and he's and a lot of people haven't liked his hits when they've been very clean but i think you have to stop that the um andreas athanasiu hit to me that is like the signature jacob truba hits it's right the line, but on the clean side of it. And it's a freight train like that.

That to me is the one that I look at when I think of Jacob Truba hits, I go back to the Athens CU hit. Now for this one, first of all, I didn't have a problem with the Kulikov hit. Okay. I really didn't. I really didn't.

I know some people might think it was a little bit late. I didn't find if it's late, it's a split split of a second late. To me, I look at Vennberg and he's coming out of the zone. Like anything around the blue lines, whether an exit or an entry, be careful. Like that's the rule, right? Like I know I'm new to hockey, but I do know that. Like anything around the blue line, exit or entry, be careful.

And Vennberg has lost the puck. And what's he doing? He's reaching. He's putting himself in that spot. What's the old saying? If you're reaching, I'm teaching. And that's exactly what happened there. When you're around the blue lines, you can't reach. Really, you shouldn't be really given, you know, when there's players out there that want to really do harm to you, you shouldn't be reaching in the first place but when you're exiting the zone or entering the zone again you're reaching i'm teaching that's what kulikov did in that situation i will maybe concede that it is a shade late but still to me i'm good at the cool car i am with you on the chat i am with you on the chicken wing I am with you on the chicken wing.

And not so subtly, he may get a tiny little piece of Rodriguez's jersey on the shoulder, but that's right there, neck, head. That's what saved him is that he didn't get the head first. I've seen enough of these things to know that that's exactly what it was. It was so, so close. Put it this way. It was so close that it couldn't have been deliberate that he got that tiny little piece of the shoulder and the neck instead of the head. Because, I mean, listen, Evan Rodriguez, fast skater, man.

All that is happening is super quick speed. It is so close that it can't be deliberate all i look at it and say is that's a desperation play by jacob truba who's saying to himself i can't i'm about to get i can't let this guy take a shot in that position so i don't care i'm gonna get a two i'm gonna get a five i'm gonna gain it doesn't matter it's worth not getting scored on that's what i think jacob truba said in that moment to himself you know you made it you made another i think you're totally right and you made another point a couple of seconds ago that's fair he's thinking oh i've already got a penalty yes what are they gonna do give me they did give him two you know, I had no problem with for that. I, you know, at that moment to make that call, that was, you know,

that was, you don't see that a lot. That moment to make that call, that was a pretty gutsy call. But what people don't like, and I'm with them on this, and we don't need to keep repeating it, is the chicken wing is not a hockey play. Like, it should not be seen as a hockey play. And the only reason he doesn't get five is because he doesn't get them in the head first. But I look at that and I say, we're really lucky he didn't get them

in the head first. It's behavior you have to put an end to. Yeah. A couple of other things to pull out of this game as well. Barkley Goodrow has been a force in these playoffs. Barkley Goodrow has six goals in these playoffs. That shorthanded goal to make

it 4-2 was just gorgeous. And then him and Trocek almost hooked up like a minute later and almost got another one. I want to go back really quickly here to the origins of the Barkley Goodrow NHL story. So Barkley Goodrow was playing in the OHL for the Brampton Battalion, then turned into the North Bay Battalion.

And he went to Detroit Red Wings camp. And Ken Holland offered him an American Hockey League deal. And he said no. I know you're always big on betting on yourself. Barkley Goodrow bet on himself. A lot of guys just would have said, man, I could. I know you're always big on betting on yourself. Barkley Goodrow bet on himself. A lot of guys just would have said, man, I could either go back from my overage year in the OHL and it's, it's a gamble.

It's a risk. Or I, maybe I should just take the American hockey league deal here and turn pro and whatever. It's not the deal that I want, but still I'll be getting paid to play hockey. Barkley Goodrow went back to junior to his, for his overage season with Stan Butler and the battalion because he bet on

himself and it worked in the San Jose sharks, signed him to an NHL deal after that. I love that. And I've always remembered it. Every time I watch Barkley Goodrow play, whether it's sharks, Tampa, whatever, you know, now, now playing with the New York Rangers, I always think of that story. The guy that had a professional hockey contract in his hands

and said, no, I can do better than this. And he did. That is one of the many reasons why I love Barkley Goodrow. Well, of course, the big overtime goal for San Jose, where he sat for 40 minutes of real-life time. And, you know, I always liked him because of that. But the other thing, too, about a guy like Goudreau, and I know he's been, he's received the ire of Rangers fans from time to time because he's not the most productive regular season player.

The thing you have to remember about a guy like him is that this is the time of the year that he is built for. And we're going to talk about Edmonton, Dallas in a little bit and, you know, the new reputation the Oilers are getting. But you do win with Barkley Goudreau at this time of year. Ask Tampa. He is a difference maker. Ask Tampa. You know, Mark Bergevin's line is, there are guys

who get you there and there are guys who get you through. And Barkley Goudreau might not get you there, but he can get you through. And he is proving that once again. I mean, we expected both of these series to go deep. They're going...

They're going deep. I hope so. I want seven games of both. Deep, deep, deep undercover. Oh, very nice Beverly Hills Cop reference. I hope so. I want seven games of both. Deep, deep, deep undercover. Oh, very, very nice Beverly Hills cop reference. I like the banana in the tailpipe.

Really? The other player we should probably pull out of this. Well, there's a couple of them really, but Alexi Lafreniere continues to demonstrate why he was the first overall pick and the Rangers were sound not to move him. You talk about Rangers fans getting on a player. How much for rangers fans on

alexis lafreniere at various times oh he's a bust oh he's no good that's a dead pick gotta move on blah blah blah blah blah alexis lafreniere was awesome again this afternoon um and that second goal is an absolute thing of beauty now i'm not'm not exactly thrilled that Oliver Ekman-Larsen played it, but the toe drag around Kulikov, getting it to his backhand, sliding it past Bobrovsky. Unfortunately, his skate catches Bobrovsky flush in the face as he's getting spun and turned on the way by. But you have a thought here on not just Alexei Lafreniere, the player,

but the Alexei Lafreniere, I don't know, phenomenon or situation with the New York Rangers, the ups and the downs, the love and the hate from Rangers fans, maybe Rangers brass as well over the years with Alexi Lafreniere because this guy is firing on all cylinders right now. You know what, Jeff?

It's just a reminder of one of my favorite lines, which is, you can solve your problem or you can trade your problem. And last summer, the Rangers reacted really negatively. Like I heard rumors about Lafreniere last summer, but when it was put out there, they reacted really negatively to it. Negative, super negatively. They said, we are not doing it. And they obviously went to the solve your problem school about thinking about this. And that was definitely one of the things that they talked about in their interviews.

We want to make this guy work. How do you figure to do it? And we saw what Laviolette did. You know, he put him in different places, and he seems to have found success. And it's just a reminder with young players, you know, now we expect young players, you know, we've lived through the era in the last, in this century, we look at players. We've lived through the era in this century. Look at some of the number one picks who have completely changed franchises.

Crosby, Ovechkin, Patrick Kane, McDavid, Matthews. Conor Bedard looks like he's going to do it. So now, if you're a number one pick, this is expected of you now. You know, when we were kids, Jeff, there were a lot of number one picks who didn't make it. Oh, yeah, Greg Jolly. I remember Greg Jolly. I wouldn't say necessarily didn't make it,

but they didn't have that kind of an impact. And now it's expected and you know it's it's a young draft so you're really you're really taking kids when they're not anywhere near close to being fully developed physically or mentally and the one thing about Gerard Gallant who I really like and I really think he is very good at what he does. I was at a coaches clinic with him a couple years ago and I asked him, there were three coaches

there. There was Dave Haxtell, there was Martin Saint-Louis and there was Gallant. And one of the questions I asked him was what makes you mad? What do players do that make you mad? And Gerard Gallant's answer was the most simple of all of them. And it was actually beautiful in its simplicity.

It was, I don't like it when players get pushed around. That makes me mad. And I can see why a guy like Lafreniere wasn't ready to be successful under a guy like Gerard Gallant. Because a lot of players have been very successful under Gallant. He wasn't ready not to be pushed around. Now, he's a little bit older. He's a lot more confident, and that matters. I think you get pushed around less the more confident you are,

but he's also a bit more developed. So I think that it just was a bad marriage at that point, and now it's a better marriage, you can see the kids confidence building. You're right. That was a, that was a beautiful goal. And this series is far from over. And the other thing, you know, is that, you know, the Panthers are going to be riled up in game four. I don't know how much more riled up they could be. Like Verhege had 20 shot attempts, but they're gonna you know they're gonna they're

gonna come back like this is far far far from over um a couple of things on the on the Florida Panthers side here because like to your point like they were excellent Sunday afternoon like they were great front front and center with Sam Reinhart um front and center was Barkoff comma again uh Gustav Forsling ties this thing up to send it in no time in the first place man did Sam Bennett ever open up a can on Ryan Lindgren holy smokes like the thing about this series is like Elliot it's so great because everything is for keeps. There's nothing frivolous about anything. Everything is deliberate. Everything has an anger to it.

It's like there's hot sauce on everything. Every player, every play, everything's got bites. Let's cross our fingers and hope that this one goes seven games. Okay, news on the march. Before we get to the Montana's Thought line and before we get to the edmonton dallas series which is why you're in edmonton right now as we have this conversation um a couple of things uh don waddell and the columbus blue jackets now x of carolina the latest with don waddell i expect this to be announced this week as early as Tuesday. It was pretty clear that when it got out that Waddell was interviewing in Columbus last week that it was going down that road and it is going to get done. I'm not exactly sure how this is all going to look yet and we

might not get clarity for a little bit. I have some theories. We'll get to those in a second. You know, I was on NHL Network on Friday evening and Catherine Tappan was hosting. And she was asking, you know, what do you think happened here? And I just think time ran out on the Tom Dundon, Don Waddell partnership.

And I think it was time for Waddell. And, you know, like we said, there have been some flirtations before. And everybody thought that it would all work out. And it did. But it wasn't going to happen this time. And one of the other things, too, is I would suspect that Waddell is going to be higher compensated in Columbus than he was in Carolina. That's always a thing.

But, you know, Tom Dundon is a really intense guy. Like, Don Waddell can't be going to a different setup, a more different setup, than he isn't going from Carolina to Columbus. And, you know, Tom Dundon is very much involved. He's the boss. And when you're the owner, you get to call the shots. He's got a way of doing things. You know, a lot of, a lot of, as we've talked about, is based on probability. Like Tom Dundon's a very successful businessman. He knows what he's doing, but it's his way.

And like I said, a lot of it's based on probability. A lot of it is prove it to me. You know, they're one of the teams when it comes to front office salaries or non-player salaries is one of the lower paying teams in the league. And Dundon has made it very clear. I have a value. I see you at this value. If you're free to go see if you can get that value somewhere else or more than that value somewhere else. We've seen it happen a few times in Carolina.

But this is what I see. And he sticks to his guns. And, you know, for the most part, hot ice, Carolina has been a very successful organization and he has breathed new life into the market too. So you can't, so, so the way Dundon looks at it is you can't prove him wrong. What he has done since he's gotten to that organization, he feels quite justified in saying my process works. Now Waddell is going to go to Columbus. Like I said, I assume he'll be better compensated. And also that's an ownership group that generally lets people do their job. And so, like I said, Jeff, I don't think there's a lot to dig into here

aside from it was time. Now, what I think the interesting thing is going to be is where both these organizations go. Columbus, Waddell, it sounds like he's gonna be the president and GM to start how long does that stay now like Steve Simmons he wrote on Sunday that he is still heard that Ken Holland might go to Columbus to work with Don Waddell and and they work together in Detroit. Ken Holland's got bigger things on his mind right now.

It seems weird to me that that would be a duo, but that rumor is definitely out there. So we'll see how that plays out. It's going to be interesting to see where Columbus goes in terms of building out their front office now, their hockey operations. In Carolina, one thing that was very interesting is that in the release announcing the official move on Friday, announcing the official move on Friday, Eric Tulsky was named interim GM, but he wasn't the only person that was mentioned in that release. The Hurricanes took pains to mention Darren York too. And Darren York has been a member of that organization for some time. He's done a really nice job and they really think highly of him. And I don't think that was an accident. I think that was their way of saying,

this is another employee we consider very valuable. And we want everyone to know that we consider him very valuable. They didn't, there was another member of their front office they didn't mention who's an assistant GM who handles a lot of their contracts and also this year did a lot of work to figure out what was going to happen in the American Hockey League. That's Aaron Schwartz. And he's another guy who's been a big part of their front office. Now, I would think if it's an internal hire,

it's going to be Tulsky. I would think, however, I've also heard that from a couple of different people that Dundon really likes the way his front office was set up in the sense that he had somebody there who knew the personalities across the league very well and could deal with them on the level that Don Waddell could like Don Waddell knew everybody he could talk to everybody. And he was an excellent collector of information and facilitator. And I have heard that Dundon thinks that's valuable. And that is why he's going to look at, like, I've heard they've got a long list of people. And, you know, Eric Joyce is there, which I didn't actually realize right away.

And Eric Joyce, who used to work in Toronto, he helped run the search that brought Bill Zito to Florida. So he has some experience doing this. So he has some experience doing this. But I have heard that Dundon considered the role that Waddell had and Waddell's relationships to be valuable. So, like, you know, one name someone threw at me the other day was someone like Chuck Fletcher, where Chuck Fletcher would fill that role and obviously Dundon, Tulsky and et al would still continue to do, make a lot of the discussions, lead a lot of the decision-making,

but a Chuck Fletcher type person would be in the Waddell chair. Like, I don't know what it'll end up being chuck fletcher but that was but someone was saying if that's what they're looking for that's the kind of person they saw doing that job a couple of things here a couple of further points on the carolina hurricanes and i'm with you i think both these situations are going to be fascinating to follow um as'm curious in Columbus what all this means for people like Rick Nash or Derek Dorsett and these types of people. Don't know. And I'm really curious to see what happens here in Carolina

and how all of this shakes out. When it comes to Carolina, though, we focus a lot on, before the Don Waddell situation, and I guess the Rod Brindamore situation as well. We focus a lot on the decisions that the organization had to make on players and how much of a sure thing that the Brett Pesci's and the Brady Shea's were going to be leaving for greener pastures. Should we pause on that for a moment? Just in the aftermath of everything happening this weekend, I had someone who listened to the pod after Carolina got knocked out. They completely agreed with me that Slavin

is their top priority. And they also agreed that Roenick makes a lot of sense for Carolina if Vancouver and them make a deal. But they also said that in the aftermath of Waddell leaving, there were some rumblings around the league that maybe there was – I don't even – I want to be careful because I don't want to radio myself too badly here, but there seemed to be some positivity that maybe things had improved with either pesci or

shea so we'll see like i know at the end of the season i really thought it was likely both those guys were gone and all this guy said to me was not so fast that that there's definitely been some work at this kind of stuff. Okay. Let me fire over to another hot button team, and there'll be a presser on Monday when you get this podcast, the Winnipeg Jets and Scott Arneal making it official on Monday. Yeah. I don't think anybody is surprised at this.

Arneal was always the favorite here. It's like the Kentucky Derby, right? Your number one horse that you think is going to win and somebody else is going to be given the opportunity to catch them and maybe beat them, but you're not expecting the upset and they've really got to beat them to change your mind. One guy I heard interviewed very well in both Winnipeg and Seattle was Dean Everson. Now,

he's not going to get the Winnipeg. Everson to Winnipeg just would have been so true. I know you wanted that. He didn't get the Winnipeg job, and I'll tell you what I think about the Seattle job in a minute, but I think that he interviewed really well I heard however I just think like Scott O'Neill has a long history with

Winnipeg he did a nice job there this year when he had to take over I just think somebody was really going to have to do something memorable or supremely outstanding to beat him out for this job. And I don't think anyone is surprised that Arneal is the guy. Sticking with the Winnipeg Jets, as far as player personnel goes, is there any chance they can keep Sean Monahan? Like that was a real nice fit. I think they're tried a couple of, and just in making all my calls on the weekend, just hearing what was going on around there as all this news was going on there,

there was definitely a sense of Winnipeg wants to keep him is trying to keep him. And what are the dominoes that could fall if they do keep him um okay a few more things here uh of note you mentioned uh the seattle job that is still open you have a theory there no surprise and also we should mention san jose that's still open and available so with seattle like i think it's going to be bilesma. I'm not, I don't know that. I would just be surprised at this point in time if it isn't him, but based on everything I'm hearing, but again,

nothing is done until it's done. But it was that, that's in coaching circles. That's where everyone is leaning. In San Jose, I think Marco Sturm had his interview recently. I think Jeff Blashill was due for a second one, someone told me. And Ryan Worsofsky, another person person told me they think he had two and i have to tell you that ryan warsofsky thing was my biggest embarrassment of the week which is pretty much saying something because someone who texted me about it it came out out Rafalski. And I thought they were talking like Brian Rafalski, serious contender, San Jose. And I was like, what?

And so I'm Googling Brian Rafalski. I said, is this guy coached anywhere? And it's turned out he has, he's coached youth hockey in Florida. And I think he had some connection with the Green Bay Gamblers of the USHL. And I'm like... San Luis, the sequel. Yeah. San Luis, the sequel.

Let's go. San Luis. And I'm thinking, could this be true? So I actually texted two people and said, have you heard this? And could there be anything to it? And one of them completely ignored me. And the other one said he hadn't heard anything and then I I got back to this person he said not Rafalski

Warsofsky and so I had to apologize to these two people I'm like oh man I'm such an idiot I'm so sorry about that so that was that was my that was my loser behavior last weekend. And I always assume there's people there I'm not seeing, but those are the three I'm with. All right. Last week, the NHL world was more than a little bit surprised when Ryan McDonough went from Nashville back to Tampa. And we all said, okay, who's going?

Who's going to make room for this and maybe a Stamco steel, et cetera. Who are you looking at Elliot? So one name we wondered about in our last, one of our last pods here was the last one or two ago was Tanner's, you know, and I got a couple of calls from people saying that's going to be one to watch because his salary, which is about 2.6, Tampa can use the space. It really hasn't worked out as well as everyone has hoped there between him

and the Lightning. But there are a lot of teams out there that see something and they think he's more the player in nashville than he was the player in tampa bay so i i do think that depending on everything that tampa is going to want to do they're going to have to consider it and i do think there are teams out there who are interested. You know who I always, and I'm saying this like legit, like based on nothing. I've just, honestly, when I say I wonder if, I really mean, I wonder if there could be a fit with Tanner Jeannot and the Calgary Flames. That one always jumped out at me.

Why do you pick them? Any particular reason? Just knowing how that player plays and how that style of play is valuable, certainly not just with the Battle of Alberta, but in Alberta itself. It is a young team. Craig Conroy has a lot of young players

that are making their way into the NHL. And I'm sure he'd like to provide a security blanket, although he kind of already does have one at Martin Pospisil in some ways. Always he making a name for himself. I just wondered if, if a guy like Tanner Janot could be the sort of cop on the beat for the Calgary flames.

That one always logically made sense to me. I haven't, I hadn't heard that, but it makes a lot of sense. It always just seemed like a fit. Here's a team that has a lot of young players that they're starting to move in, whether it's Connor Zeri or Matthew Coronado, etc.

I just can't help but thinking that maybe Craig Conroy wants a little bit of a security blanket there around these players, although Martin Pospisil is certainly making a name for himself in that regard wants a little bit of a security blanket there around these players although martin pospasola is certainly making a name for himself in that regard in some ways i just can't help but thinking whether tanner juneau could be a fit there given how many how many younger players are going to start to populate that flames roster that always seemed like a fit to me again i am saying i am i am saying that based on just based on it feels like it would be a fit that's all i'm just

i'm just dealing with vibes here at this point elliot i'm just dealing with five it's a vibey time of year very vibey and elliot to finish up a new segment here on this uh as we record this sunday evening there are just some trades that get the tinfoil hats well onto everybody. And this is why. Not just the normal conspiracy-oriented people. The Islanders send a first-round pick, 18th overall in this year's draft, a second-round pick, 50th overall in this year's draft, to the Chicago Blackhawks in exchange for this year's first, which is a 20th for Chicago, a second this season, which is 54th and a another second, which is 61st.

We all kind of, well, most of us anyhow, I know I certainly did. I looked at this and said, this is a deal you make after the draft has started, like not even before the draft has begun. But once you start to see where players are going and teams are leaning, then you make a move like this. Elliot, why did these two teams make this move this week? What's your conspiracy? My conspiracy is that someone's trying to move up in the draft.

And look, that's one of the theories. Obviously the Blackhawks did right right because they went from 20 to 18 however obviously the blackhawks did because they went up from 20 to 18 but whether it's the islanders using the second pick that they got to do something or the Blackhawks jumping up to 18 so they can get even closer. It's a, it's a precursor to something else either moving up in the draft or acquiring

someone in trade. And you knew that you had to get higher up for them, make your first round pick more valuable or make your package of picks more valuable to do. Yes. That's what I came to on. That's what I came to. This is Chicago saying,

okay, now we have two commodities. We've talked about the drop off at 20 before. Sam Cosentino has talked a lot about this, Jason Buchla, et cetera, but the drop off at 20. Well,

now they're in, uh, they're inside of 20 at 18, outside of their other first round pick. So now they have 18 and 50 to play with if they want to move up even more. And this is a really intriguing draft too. There's a lot of defensemen in this draft. If you want to do something to really help your blue line outside of the first overall pick, this is the year to do it although there are still some highly skilled forwards available in the top five but still i look at this and i say i would not be surprised if we saw both 18 and 50 that chicago has

move on yeah well or or before then because you're right jeff you don't need to make that trade now no it was it was funny someone said to me well normally i'd call the gm or something like that and say what are you up to but i know lamorello's not going to tell me so i'm not calling him and if chicago's doing something with that pick or wants to do something with that pick, right now, you're going to know soon enough. So that's what that is about. Somebody's trying to get in a position to do something early. Or they've done their research and they know that they've got to get into a certain tier to do something and they're just making sure that they can do it. This will all play itself out either at or before we get to Vegas and the sphere. And Elliot, before we move on here,

neither of these countries will be at the four nations face-off, which will either be in Boston or Montreal or perhaps Toronto. The heat is on there. Congratulations. Czechia over Switzerland. 2-0 is the final. And jubilation once again at the World Championships reigns. One of my favorite pieces I ever saw Hockey Night in Canada do was fantastic. And I wasn't involved in it, which is probably why it was so good,

was when Chris Irwin, who was a producer at Hockey Night, was when Chris Irwin, who was a producer at Hockey Night, went to the Czech Republic with the Czechs after they won the gold medal in 98. Like, they gave him unbelievable access. He was there with Hasek. It was fantastic, the celebration. And I don't think this is that, but it's obviously going to be a huge celebration. And Pasternak's post,

his Instagram post, exactly what you said, pointing out maybe Four Nations invite now. You know, there were some players that they had to meet with last year at the All-Star game. Drysaddle was one, Pasternak was one, I believe Roman Yossi was another, just talk about, hey, this is why we have to do it this way. And those players understood, but they didn't like it. They realized they couldn't change anything, but they weren't happy about it. And I agree with you. I think that's a big victory for that reason on this stage. Just to say, hey, don't forget about us. Absolutely. Last year was marvelous with Latvia and with Germany. And this year, congratulations to Czechia. A huge win. Listen, we've had big celebrations in the past little while with Slovakia and now great to see the Czechs get their due and win a world

championship. Okay, so with that come our thoughts on Edmonton and Dallas. That series nodded at ones. Game three is on the horizon Monday. But before we get there, the Montana's Thought Line. That's next. Listen to the 32 Thoughts podcast ad-free on Amazon Music, included with Prime. Welcome back to the podcast. You have thoughts. So we have the Montana's Thought Line, Montana's barbecue and bar, Canada's home for barbecue. Thank you to Rick Turner as always.

32 thoughts at sportsnet.ca. The way to get in 1-833-311-3232. Thanks as always to our Montana's thought line, email and voicemail curator. The one and only Griffin Porter. Thank you, Griffin. Austin from Kleefeld, Manitoba. You'll like this one, Elliot. Hey, guys, long-time listeners.

I enjoy your takes while in the tractor, whether it's seeding or harvest time around the farmyard or on the deck having a cold one after a long day of life. My question to you guys is, is there a rule that teams can only wear two jerseys home and away over the course of the Stanley Cup playoffs? I watch other big sports leagues such as MLB, NBA, etc. And they're able to wear the whole closet they have of regular and alternate uniforms throughout their playoffs. I just feel the NHL is missing out on another source of revenue when the other fans watch games they may not particularly watch during the regular season. Wouldn't some of the jersey matchups be pretty cool too?

To see the flying skate make an appearance or even for the Jets to actually wear white uniforms to support the Winnipeg whiteout. Anyway, I hope you guys enjoy this take because I very much enjoy listening to you guys bicker and argue lol. Thanks, Austin from Kleefeld, Manitoba. You know what I've always wondered about? Yes, what's that? wants to award the Stanley Cup to a team that's wearing their classic and traditional jersey with the traditional and classic logo, whatever that may be. I've always just assumed that, but I don't know that.

Remember what Ron Francis told us about the expansion team in Seattle? Yeah, that they weren't allowed a third for a number of years? No, it was also that he wanted, when they were putting together their jersey, one of the things they talked about was, if we win the Stanley Cup, are we going to be embarrassed to be wearing that jersey? It had to be a jersey we were proud to wear. Now, the answer to the question is yes, you have to pick your uniforms in the playoffs. You can only pick two but i i actually do like the question in the sense that maybe you could be able to sell a few more

jerseys in the playoffs like one of my favorite third jerseys was the rangers liberty jersey and if you could wear that in the playoffs you know maybe what you do is once around and not when you're eligible to win the stanley cup final this is me just spitballing here you can wear one say this is our special jersey night at home and i don't have a problem with that because you're right it probably sells a few more jerseys and it appeals the entrepreneurial part of me. But right now you do have to declare. If you were up to me and I was running the New York Rangers and I had a chance to do it,

my third Jersey logo would be Merrick Malik doing the statue of Liberty celebration after scoring the marathon shootout winner against the Olaf Kolsig and the Washington Capitals. I always thought that would make a great-looking New York Rangers alternative logo. Austin in Kleefeld, Manitoba, thanks so much for that one. A voicemail, Bree is in Nevada. Hello, gentlemen. My name is Bree.

I'm a Quebecois living in southern Nevada, and I'm actually listening to you talk about the Memorial Cup as I'm driving to a George Thorogood concert. And that plus my affinity to my adopted team, the Vegas Golden Knights, has me thinking about this question. What would the possibility of a person putting a team in a place like Nevada to compete in major junior Canadian hockey? Maybe planting the seed of how nice it is to play here with young, impressionable minds in the hopes that maybe one day they eventually remember how nice it was playing in Nevada and want to sign with the Golden Knights. Could a team in the Western Hockey League be based in the Las Vegas or Nevada area?

Or is there a geographical limitation? Thank you. I love that voicemail, Elliot, as you can imagine. Good question. A transplanted Quebecois now living in Nevada. Love that. It would be the Western Hockey League. That would be their domain, jurisdiction,

whatever you would call it. Nothing would preclude them from doing that. I don't know, nor have I heard anything recently about the Western Hockey League looking at expansion to Nevada. Not saying that they won't one day, but I think Bree brings up a couple of interesting points there. One, the one thing that the CHL, and this may all change as we all know what's happening

between the CHL and the NCAA, but we'll see how that all shakes out. It's marching towards an inevitability here, it seems. But all three CHL leagues have all been mostly successful, except for the Quebec League, as they have made their foray into the United States. In the OHL, there's Erie and Flint and Saginaw, who's hosting the Memorial Cup in Plymouth. Detroit had the ambassadors. There's always been rumors, Elliot, you've heard this a million times about Buffalo. Yeah. Getting a junior hockey team. You've heard that one before.

In the Western League, Portland, Everett, Tri-City, Spokane, Seattle, Wenatchee. Remember Billings where Gord Kluzak played? Yeah, Billings, Big Orange. I always said that was a really cool spot. Yeah, you know it. And so I always said that was a really cool spot. The one league that's always struggled with American expansion is the Q. Now, there was a team in Lewiston.

Yeah, I remember that. Jonathan Bernier. Yeah, that's right. You remember them. Yeah. So Jonathan Bernier played on that team. There was also, and I'm going to go deep on this one, Elliot. Maybe, I shouldn't even say maybe, the worst hockey team ever was from the Quebec Junior Hockey League. Plattsburgh? And it was the Pioneers. John Torchetti played on that team. They played 17 games.

That's right, I remember that. They played 17 games. Their record was 0-16, 0-1. And they folded. And all the stats were erased. All the points that teams scored against them were all erased. Like the Q just wanted to make it vanish. It was such a disgrace.

They didn't have an expansion draft for the team. So they had to pick a bunch of American players that weren't going to college to field the team. And it went as you would imagine. Now, one thing, and I've wanted to mention this for a while. Mario Cecchini is the president of the Quebec Maritime Junior Hockey League. And he is, as I'm told, very interested in exploring American markets for the Q. interested in exploring American markets for the queue I think the Quebec League wants to go back or at least really have a good exploration if it would work Chikini has like pretty big ambitions here and this is one of the things that

really interests him I would look at Vermont Elliott I would look at Maine and I would look at Massachusetts not saying that it'll all come together with those three, but the Q is very interested in exploring the potential of welcoming back once again, American teams. So thank you, Bree, for letting me get that one out. That's been in the back of my mind here for a while. Does that surprise you at all, Elliot? I mean, the Q has struggled before.

There are two times in the States, but the fact that they may try to dip their beak into it again, would that surprise you at all? No, people have an entrepreneurial spirit. They always believe that they're the person who can get it right, right? And also, you look at the success in Ontario and the Western League, I bet the you would have some pride in saying we can do that too you know the thing about the question that was specifically

asked by brie uh about vegas vegas to me is such a success in hockey that if they got there eventually it wouldn't surprise me at all like they have ranks now. You know, UNLV has got a club team. I don't think it's a short term thing. But if you told me in five to 10 years, they had a junior team, it wouldn't like it's not impossible to believe. Now, you've also hit on something here that our world, a story that you and I have been pounding. And again, there was a big one last week. The world between the NCAA and the Canadian Hockey League is really about to change. So we don't know where this is all going. But, you know, I'll say this, that I was just down in Dallas, obviously,

and Southern Methodist has a really good hockey team. And a bunch of those schools have club teams now and they play. So it's not, I mean, it's growing and that's a great thing for hockey. It is.

Bree, that's an excellent voicemail. Bree in Nevada, thank you so much for that one. Let's finish up with another voicemail. Let's go to St. Louis.

Here's Jeremy. I was curious who are some of your favorite NHL playoff OT goal scorers who are unlikely heroes? So grinders, role players who step up in those big moments and become immortal. Here in St. Louis, we're partial to Pat Maroon and Carl Gunnarsson from the 2019 Cup run, but other options are encouraged. Notice I said unlikely heroes. So you are not allowed to talk about Steve Eisenman from the blue line in 1996. That's off limits. If the NHL could burn that piece of footage,

I would be very, very happy. Thanks so much. Keep up the great work. Yeah, Jeremy, that's a tough one. That Eisenman shot. What a beautiful shot. Just wait till the screen is right there. Bam. But I can understand that. That's some hockey PTSD there for St. Louis blues hockey fans. Okay. Elliot unlikely playoff overtime heroes. I think I have the ultimate one. Let's see what you have. Well, I mean,

there's a couple number one, and he was a very good player, but nobody was more of an eliminator than Marty Gelina. How many times did he score a goal to knock somebody out of the playoffs? Well, Elliot, there's a very strong belief that whatever the number is, you could probably add one for 2004. That puck was not in. Sorry, Calgary, but that's the parallax angle.

That's an optical illusion. No angle that I've ever believed has concluded that, Elliot. I'm sorry. Okay, thanks, Jeff. But, you know, growing up in Toronto, and all my friends are big Leaf fans, Nikolai Borshevsky, because that was a Leaf team that hadn't been very good for a long time.

93, knocking out Detroit. Can we pause on that for one second? Yes. That was a leap year that hadn't been very good for a long time. 93. Can we pause on that for one second? Yes. Do you remember the interview he did with Ron? Now Nikolai Boroshevsky didn't have a command of the English language at that time. Do you remember the interview that he did with Ron? And all he could say the entire interview was just unbelievable. Unbelievable.

Ron tried to drag an interview out of him, but all he was getting was unbelievable out of Nikolai Borshevsky. It was like the only word that he knew at that time. I think I'll always remember that one after he scored that goal. And the Leafs have been so bad for so long. Like there was a generation of fans

that was their biggest Leaf goal at the time. Now the other one I have to mention, and I was not alive to see it. There is only one Stanley Cup game seven that has gone multiple overtimes. 1950, and the Red Wings beat the Rangers on a goal by Pete Babando, who played a grand total of 351 NHL games. He scored 89 NHL goals regular season and playoffs, three in the postseason, and that was, of course, the big one. So I always remembered who was the only person to score

a double overtime Stanley Cup Game 7 winner. That's good. Pete Babando. Going historical. I would think of Brad May, Buffalo Sabres of the Boston Bruins, Dave Volek, the Islanders over the Pittsburgh Penguins. That's a great one. You remember.

We've talked before about Peter Klima and the triple overtime, Edmonton and the Boston Bruins, but I think this really is the one that tops them all. With all due respect to Pete Babando. Nicholas Walleen. Didn't he score two that year? One against the Maple Leafs? Hold on. Yeah?

Hold on. He played 93 playoff games in his career with Carolina and San Jose. He scored in those 93 games, four goals. All of them were game winners. Three of them were in overtime. Nick Wallin. That's a good call the ultimate the ultimate playoff underdog hero elliott all four goals for game winners three was we're in ot what's more clutch than that and we never talk about nick wall-e so thanks to jeremy and st louis for that voicemail so we can mention nick wall-e here on this program okay that is that is the Montana's Thought Line. Montana's Barbecue and Bar, Canada's home for barbecue. Quick pause, we come back.

Elliot's in Edmonton for game three. We'll talk about how we got there in moments. Jeff, Elliot, and Tom on 32 Thoughts try their ribs today. Whoa, yeah. Welcome back to 32 Thoughts to Podcast, presented by the GMC Sierra Elevation. Okay, Elliot, you're in Edmonton for game three.

This is the series that you are following, going back and forth over the border between Edmonton and Dallas. We're all tied up at ones after a big 3-1 win. Dallas Stars over the Edmonton Oilers Saturday night on Hockey Night in Canada. You were there in the building. Oh, by the way, how did your assignment work out? What was the most obscure jersey you were able to find? I sent it to Pitlick. I sent it to him.

Yeah, Tyler Pitlick. Tyler Pitlick, a very good one. I had to remember which Pitlick it was because there's been so many of them. I saw a Radulov. I saw another Patrick Sharp, but Pitlick was the one. Pitlick was definitely the one. Now, I want to clarify something else because i had some people who tweeted at me wondering how my walk was in the suit so i walked oh yeah i walked to the morning skate in my regular attire golf shirt and pants and i was like oh boy this is hot, but I'm still going to try it. So I walked out in my suit for in the afternoon.

I took literally about eight steps and I was feeling it. And I said, Uber, I cannot do this. So the walk did not last because I would have ruined the suit and I would not have been able to recover. And one thing, Jeff, you said, I am following this series. You are right. But so far, my clothes haven't followed it with me. So if you see me in an ill-fitting suit on Monday night, I think it would be Mark Spector's.

So if we see you in a barrel and a tie, we'll know that your clothes have still not arrived on Monday evening 8.30 Eastern for game three. I have asked for Mark's suits to be screened for communicable diseases, because if he has any, I'm not wearing it.

That's like the new trick. Instead of going to the gym heavy, just wear clothes that are too small. That's right. It makes it look like you're popping out there. Okay, so Dallas wins 3-1. Yep. Mason Marchman with the tip on the shot from the point from Suter. Esa Lindell with the empty net goal.

Jamie Benn, that was a really nice two-on-one. I don't think anyone thought Logan Stankoven was getting that pass. Fired it in. Connor Brown marches right back down the ice and scores 44 seconds later. Opens up Jake Ottinger's pads and tucks it in between. I'm always happy when Connor Brown scores. He's had a really challenging season. 3-1 is the final score.

What are your takeaways from Saturday night, other than you sweating on the way to the rink? It's going deep, just like Florida Rangers are. I don't see why anybody would be surprised by anything less than that. And David and I, when we walked out after the game, we saw a few of the Dallas players, and they were telling us that Edmonton has really changed in a positive way.

They can now beat you different ways. They can beat you run and gun, as everybody knows, but now they can grind you. They can check. They've really improved. And they are gaining a respect for doing that. Teams are noticing. Dallas is a good team that can grind and check.

They were very complimentary of the Oilers. They said there's just not a lot of room out there, which is the way you've got to win. So the Oilers, early in this series, the last time they got to the Western Conference Final, they were not ready to handle Colorado. That was not an assignment that they were capable of accomplishing at that time.

This is different, and the Stars see it. Now, it doesn't mean that the Stars lack confidence. Obviously, they feel they could win, but this is going to be a fight for every inch of the ice. A couple of things coming out of this. Rupé hints. I had heard that the Stars considered the games in Edmonton as the most likely place where Hintz would return in this series.

I think they were hopeful he could play in maybe game two, but they weren't expecting it. Now we'll see what happens Monday night. He's obviously a difference maker, and it's also pretty clear that he plays a major role in Jason Robertson's offense. And

Robertson's been very quiet to start this series. A couple of posts. Yeah, you know, I mean, it's funny. One of those posts goes in, and we're talking very differently, but he hasn't had a ton of chances. Not that too many people have. But so you're hoping, if you're Dallas,

you're hoping that Hintz comes back and he brings Robertson back with him. I, you know, I mean, I got to think Henrik turns up too for the Oilers and it'll be very interesting to see where they go with him because Knobloch, their penalty kill has been great and he didn't want to take any of those guys out. But you got to think he's going to do it now.

But the thing I wanted to talk about was Chris Knobloch very delicately talking about the Oilers' lack of power plays. Now, Knobloch clearly was prepared for this question, and he was hoping it would be asked. And the one thing I do know, it was a subject of conversation in the off days between game one and two, when in game one, I mean, well, the power plays were, what, five to one? And the Oilers' power play was an obvious one.

And, you know, Knobloch chose his words very carefully. He paused. I think you have to walk this line at this time of year very smartly. You can say we feel we deserve more calls, very smartly. You can say we feel we deserve more calls, but you can't do anything that makes the referees want to bury you. And he walked that line very well. The thing is, though, Jeff, all year long, Dallas doesn't commit a lot of penalties. In the regular season, they were the second best team. I think they were 246 penalties taken, and Vegas was the best at 238. And in the playoffs, they have taken 37 penalties,

which is the best of all the teams remaining, and there are four teams, thealanche the hurricanes the canucks and the bruins the bruins took 64 penalties that's 27 more than the stars so you're not looking at a team here that is undisciplined and i and i and i heard the others were told that, and I think they also were told, like, the stars don't do dumb stuff after the whistle. So what Knobloch is probably hoping for is one or two calls here, but it's not like there's an avalanche of penalties against them that should be called. Could you go through and find a couple more? Absolutely. But I don't look at this as a series where I see the stars fouling the Oilers or even the Oilers really fouling the stars. I see two teams battling each other for every inch

of the ice. And it's going to be like that for up to five more games. I thought that response to the question was really interesting. You're right. He paused. He collected himself. He took a breath. He mentioned that they win a lot of games on their power play. He talked about the difference between regular season and playoff calls, mentioned that it's tougher to draw penalties in the playoffs, and was quick to point out, again, to your point, not wanting to get on the wrong side of the officials or humiliate them.

He did say the standard is the same for both teams. But then he said something which was interesting and can be interpreted a number of different ways he closed with i'm not saying that we're getting it's unfair for us but we would like the same standard which is i'm not looking for any special treatment here we just want the same standard as the other team. You could read it that way. Or do you read it as we want it to go back to the regular season standard of how they're calling games?

Because he went out of his way to mention regular season versus playoffs. Like it was a really like sort of like layered response. It was really intriguing. It was a really layered response. He's a really like sort of like layered response yeah it was really intriguing it was a really layered respect he's a really thoughtful person to begin with and he sends messages he knows what he's doing totally and i walked away from that going there's a there's a lot in there to sort of pull out like is he saying that he wants the regular season standard or is he saying look i just want you you know, to,

to, I want the same standard as the Dallas stars here. Wink, wink. I'm not trying to embarrass you. Please notice that I'm not trying to embarrass you. And now please give us the same standard. I thought it was like,

to be honest with you, Elliot, I kind of thought the answer was kind of brilliant. And it's, and it's understatement. Like it was, it was essentially him trying to lobby for more calls yeah but he was doing it in such a very passive and gentle way we never really seen that

before we've seen we're used to the angry coach complaining about who wants to eat the referee no knob block went at it the exact opposite yeah the exact opposite way i thought that was really intriguing um let me let me close on this one unless you have other thoughts about this one exact opposite. Yeah. The exact opposite way. I thought that was really intriguing. Let me close on this one, unless you have other thoughts about this one. No, I'm good. You're right there for these games. Do you have a thought on Miro Haskinen? Like, he just continues to be incredible here. Like, goals do not go in on the Dallas

net when Miro Haskinen is on the ice. That is what we know of the playoffs this year. Well, a year ago I voted him number one for my Norris. And this year, he, I don't think he's on my ballot this year, which I am really regretting, really regretting. Like that guy should be a Norris contender every year. We just have a lot of really good defensemen and,

but he should be up there. And, you know, if they win, if they win, they'd still have to win seven more games so a lot can happen. You got to think Ottinger's the guy, but it wouldn't surprise me if Haskinen won it. I always look at Miro Haskinen for the Norris and say it kind of feels like a Brad Park situation

that he's trapped in between the era, like Brad Park was between, you know, like Bobby or and Dennis Potfan, Larry Robinson, then Ray Bork. Like he's, he's trapped in, in between these two. And here's Haskinen who's in there with all these giants, all of these killers. I can't help but looking at him and say, cause I thought Brad Park was one of the best defensemen of that era, period.

And I don't think that that's a controversial thing at all to say. And I kind of look at Miro Haskin in the same way. Outstanding defenseman who probably, by the time his career is over, will look back and say, he deserved more than he got. He deserved way more than he got. We'll see what he gets tonight. He deserved more than he got. He deserved way more than he got. Yeah. We'll see what he gets tonight. It is the Dallas Stars and the Edmonton Oilers Game 3 Western Conference Final.

This thing all tied up at once. The puck drops 8.30 Eastern. Watch this one on Sportsnet. Thanks for joining us today. We're back again Wednesday morning.