32 Thoughts: The Podcast - Six-Seeeeven for Mason McTavish

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

In this edition of 32 Thoughts, Kyle Bukauskas and Elliotte Friedman begin by unpacking Mason McTavish's 6 year, 7 million dollar deal with the Anaheim Ducks. Friedge also learns about the six-seven trend. They also discuss Anthony Stolarz's new deal with the Toronto Maple Leafs (12:36). The fellas comment on how popular Calvin Pickard is in Edmonton and whether the Oilers would even entertain replacing him (19:33). Elliotte has small updates on Luke Hughes and Luke Evangelista (21:31). They touch on the injury of Aleksander Barkov (25:59). Elliotte highlights what he's keeping an eye on during week two of the preseason (33:08). The boys talk about Marc-André Fleury's farewell game in Pittsburgh (36:49). The Final Thought focuses on our amazing experience in the beautiful province of Price Edward Island (42:52). Kyle and Elliotte answer your emails and voicemails in the Thoughtline (50:17).In the final segment we are reintroducing an old podcast tradition of highlighting Canadian bands across our amazing country. Today we spotlight Coyote from PEI, and a cut off their new EP Hope You Feel It. Check them out hereEmail the podcast at [e-mail] or call the Thought Line at 1-833-311-3232 and leave us a voicemail.This podcast was produced and mixed by Dominic Sramaty and hosted by Elliotte Friedman & Kyle Bukauskas.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates

I qualify for senior citizens discounts now. I'm 55 years old. And, you know, I am someone who oftentimes will try. If something comes up in social media, I don't know what it is. I will Google it or I will search it on X. Like, what is this? And I tried to search it. And I still couldn't.

Like, I'm not smart enough to, I'm looking at this and I'm saying, I am not smart enough to figure this out. I do not understand what this means. Welcome to 32 Thoughts, the podcast, presented by GMC, Kyle Elliott, Dom, back with you again. What a Sunday in the world of sports, Elliot. I'm feeling a little overstimulated after a day's worth from sunrise to sunset and beyond of action. The Jays clinched the division, drama and rider cup, another NFL Sunday, gave it a run. good finish at the Ryder Cup another NFL Sunday worth tuning in for

I know it was a tough start for you I hear fantasy is going better and lots of news going on around the national hockey league maybe not so much on Sunday but the weekend in general how are you feeling right now feel great I would make two changes

to the Ryder Cup number one it shouldn't end on a tie there should be a playoff Agreed. And number two, if you suffer an injury, you lose the point. Could you imagine if the Americans had lost on a furious comeback because Hovlin's injury only got them half a point?

It would have been, I mean, it was testy enough between the gallery and team Europe at times over the weekend. I can only imagine if something like that played out. Oh, yeah. It was great, great theater. Always great theater. Rider Cup is always fantastic. Always. Okay, so some of the big news in hockey over the last few days, Elliot.

Why don't we start with Mason McTavish, one of the big RFAs, off the board. He is signed. Back to Anaheim, he goes, a six-year deal with $7 million A-AV, or better known as, Elliot? Six-seven. Oh, okay. Very nice, very nice. I got to be honest, too. We'll get into that.

Okay. All right. We'll save that for later. Well, we can do it after we talk about McTavish, because there were so many of these replies in the initial tweet. And I asked for clarification, and I'm still not exactly sure what this means, if anything. It might not mean anything. Anyway, on Mason McTavish. The fact that this ended the way it did said one thing to me that the moment the docs got

to a 7 million AAV on this term, this deal was getting done. Now, Mason McTavish, $42 million, great for him. And I have no doubt that he is going to make that contract worth it in NHL terms. I'm a big Mason McTavish fan. I think he's a tremendous player. the ducks now have a 7 million ceiling still when you add in Troy Terry and Michael Grandland and I think there are going to be other players here are going to take a run at that you've got to think Carlson's going to take a run at that you've got to think Gochay is going to take a run

at that you've got to think that Jackson Lecombe is going to take a run at that depending on the term of all their contracts but once again the ducks have established them as once again the have established themselves and is an extremely tough team to negotiate with. But to me, it says the moment they got to seven, Mason McTavish was going to say, okay, I'm satisfied with this and let's get the deal done. And that looks like, without anyone specifically coming out, Kyle, and telling me, that's exactly what happened. That looks like exactly what happened.

They got to that threshold and the player said, let's go. Well, I mean, you had, as you have laid out multiple times, as we've waited for this to get done, you got Pat Verbeek and Jeff Solomon on one side of the tug of war, you got Agent Pat Morris on the other, and it seemed like for a long time the center line on the rope wasn't really moving all that much. Now, when Verbeek took questions from the media after the deal was done, said they went back and forth on term, a little bit back and forth on the dollars too. I mean, you had said from the beginning, like the ducks, wanted some term. Yeah. So they, I had heard several places. They made it very clear they were not interested in doing a Brits. Like what they did with Trevor Zegris, they were not doing here. Okay.

Gotcha. And so once the number per season got to where it was, all of a sudden the, the, the snowball started rolling downhill. Like you mentioned some of the other, the other names that are going to be to do contracts here pretty soon. They've got five guys. Gochier, Carlson, Lecombe, Minchukov, Zellwiger. They're going to be RFAs at the end of this season we are just getting underway here. Sounds like the ducks aren't too interested in waiting until next summer

to deal with all of those at once. Like I know we've had examples here in the past now of some important names in Anaheim, becoming a bit of a grind into training camp. Kind of get the sense that I'm not going to spend too much time relaxing with the feet up on the desk to enjoy the start of the year before they maybe start to figure out the other ones that are going to be coming up soon too. I got to think that they will try. Why not? But again, they've sent a message that we have a line and it's going to be very hard to push us by it. This wasn't only about McTavish, it was about everything, their overall salary structure. But the best thing everybody can do here is take care of business.

A rising tide floats all boats. The ducks are very hopeful for this season. I think it was important if they want to be as successful as they can that McTavish was there to start the year. And judging from, you know, basically Verbeek said he'll be in town soon and we'll have them ready to play this week in some of our final exhibition games. That says to me that even Verbeek realized that this was something that couldn't drag into the season.

I always think if you take care of business, both individually and especially as a team, things take care of themselves. And that's what the ducks can do. This is a team I'm going to be watching a lot early this year to see where they are. I mean, you know how it goes for a lot of us, we're glued particularly to the Canadian teams.

But there's always a couple teams you stick to and say, I really want to watch this team early. Anaheim is going to be a team this year that I'm really going to be watching early because I think they have big hopes for what they can try to accomplish. And you mentioned, like just their cap structure here now. So McTavish at 7, Terry at 7, Granlin, who they sign on the offseason, he's at 7. Jacob Truba is the only guy Of course they got in a trade last year

That's north of that at 8 and he's only got one year left They did the big deal with Dostle in the offseason That's six and a half And so in an era where now we're seeing The salary cap jump leaps and bounds The ducks seem to be setting themselves up To be able to have a very manageable Balance sheets here

With a lot of young players coming due for new deals With as you say the line that they are not going to cross knowing what's coming for them. I remember we kind of talked about this with Dallas a little bit last year. And then, of course, they went out and made the deal for Ranton and that kind of changed everything. But it seems like Anaheim's in that spot right now, at least trying to be for as long as they can. We've talked about this a lot over the past couple of weeks, Kyle. There is the sort of the Cold War now between the rising cap versus the teams trying to hold the line.

And this is one where Anaheim. holds the line, but there's lots more out there. All right. Anything else on Anaheim and McTavish before? We can, we can, well, you want to do the six, seven thing here since it ties into this? Yes, yes, of course. So I don't know if I'm going to be able to help you much with this one, Elliot. But you had my eyebrows raised when after you reported the deal going.

I knew you'd love that tweet. Number one, I thought people would have fun with it, which they did. but number two, I knew you and Dom would get a kick out of it. Like, I qualify for seniors, I always think of you guys. I qualify for senior citizens discounts now. I'm 55 years old. And, you know, I am someone who oftentimes will try. If something comes up in social media, I don't know what it is.

I will Google it or I will search it on X. Like, what is this? And I tried to search it. And I still couldn't, like, I'm not smart enough to, I'm looking at this and I'm saying, I am not smart enough to figure this out. I do not understand what this means. And Frank Nizarre, he scored, I had a hat trick on Sunday night, and he did the celebration. Oh, did he? Yes.

Oh, someone sent it to me, said, here's another one of those guys for you. Boomer. Jeez. So it has something to do with, yeah, a scroll song lyrics. That's kind of where it started. It became a meme based off that and basketball highlight videos. I think Lamello Ball was part of it too. Anyway, I'm making myself sound much older than I actually am with this explanation.

Dom, anything we're missing? And now it's just become this thing. Yeah, it literally doesn't mean anything. It's just song lyrics that a bunch of kids. decided to turn into a thing. Okay, so speaking of that on Saturday night, and we'll talk more about this particular event later, Mark Andre Fleury returned for Pittsburgh to play the third period of the game against Columbus, and I got a great note from Melissa Armstrong, who I am always reminded is much better looking than her husband, Colby. And she sent me a note that when Ricard

Raquel scored for the penguins in that game against the Blue Jackets, her kids and Mark Andre Fleury's kids, what's Raquel's number? 67. They were doing that to celebrate the goal. And then at the end of the game, they got an autographed jersey, two of her kids did, from Flurry, or they asked them to sign their jersey, and they asked them to sign it with the number 67, which he did. So whatever. this is, even though it means absolutely nothing, the young guns love it. That's tremendous. Every generation has got a phraser saying that when you try to track its origins back, you're like, this is really nothing, but it took off and became part of

the fabric. Problem is now, what's the average lifespan of a popular meme? They just, they in and out of existence and relevance. Some of them never. end. But what the, the best note that someone sent me was that he said, I can't remember who it was, but he said to me, it just reminds me, think of all the stuff that we thought was cool in our 20s. And now we know it was super stupid. Anthony Stolars. Another signing over the weekend, Elliot. Four year deal, 3.75 per just a shade higher than wool. I mean, you had made it clear that both sides were working towards. getting this timely, you never really seem to throw much caution out there that things could be headed in the wrong direction. I look at, though, the total dollars of this deal, 15 million. I mean, is that kind of the one we should look at, at least in terms of the goaltender, the player's side of what the target was and the hope? Yeah, so on Saturday night, we did the exhibition game and we mentioned during the intermission that it was getting there.

And then Sunday morning, I got a couple notes saying it's going to have. and it happened Sunday afternoon. Basically, from the way a few people explained it to me was that $15 million was the number and the question was how they were going to get there. And, you know, if you look at Stollers, it's a big win for him. If you take a look at where he was a couple years ago with some of the injuries he went through, the idea that he could sign this kind of a contract, it seems so, so far away, right? And, you know, I think the Maple Leafs were concerned at A.A.V.

I think they were concerned about term. But if you take a look at what's going with the goalies, you know, there's, there a lot of them are coming off the board. Like how many, if you need a goalie, how many of them are going to be available? not a lot of difference makers or who we consider difference makers now. A lot of them are locked up. And I think Toronto got to a point where they, and you know what Toronto does,

they're not afraid to give a little bit more term to stretch out the AAV. They've done that in a few cases. Chris Tanov, even, you know, Tavares, giving him four years, brought down that number a little bit. If you take a look at their history, that's what they'll do. And I think they decided to do that in this case. And I'm not surprised Stollers took it. When you take a look at his history of he hasn't had a long-term deal since his ELC,

he's battled some injuries, he wanted this done before the start of the season. And once they figured out a way to split the, to slice the pie to into a place where the Maple Leafs were comfortable with, I don't see why he wouldn't want to get it done. It was a good place for him. He played really well last year. So I'm not surprised at all this got done. I think this week, Kyle, is going to be one of the more interesting weeks on the waiver wire to see which goal. Bullies get there and win. Columbus put Fidotov through.

I always thought that was a guy who was going to clear. I mean, teams could have had him last summer if they wanted him. And so I'm not surprised he cleared. But, you know, Toronto's got a situation with Joseph Wool, and, you know, I want to respect his privacy. The only thing I'm going to say about it is, I just don't think anybody knows what the timeline is right now. So they bring Rimer in on a P.T.

I assume he's going to play one of the two games against Detroit this week. And then, you know, we'll see what they decide to do. But there's at least two goalies who are going to go on waivers this week, who may go on waivers this week. I shouldn't say that. You never know what's going to happen. I'm really curious to see, do they pass through? Do they get traded beforehand?

do their teams try to keep three goalies, do their teams? Well, one of them's not going to move someone else, but, and those goalies are Michael DiPietro and Clay Stevenson. DiPietro's in Boston and Stevenson's in Washington. Now, the Bruins signed DiPietro to a two-year deal, and I think that's one of the things they were hoping is that second year might scare some teams off. But, you know, right now, the Bruins,

have Swamen, of course, and they've got Corpus Sallo. So we'll see what they do with DiPietro or what they do in that. And of course, the Capitals have Logan Thompson and Charlie Lindgren, who were excellent for them last year. But Clay Stevenson is a really interesting player. They sign him for three years. He's got two left. you know last year his minor salary was two ways the next two years it's 775 and i bet you the

capitals are kind of hoping that maybe that may or scare some teams off but i'm not convinced it will i'll say this that when clay stevenson signed with washington out of college Another team that really liked him were the Rangers. The Rangers were disappointed that he didn't sign there. So I think Washington knows that it's going to be hard to sneak him through. And so I look at, you know, what's Toronto going to do? What is some of these other teams going to do? And I could see the Bruins and the Capitals in particular being a little nervous about

these two guys and trying to figure out how do we protect them, do we do something, or do we just, are we, are we just, are we going to carry three, or are we just going to be resigned of the fact we have to take our chances? Now, I know last week, Connor Ingram, he cleared and with Ingram, and I don't want to make light of this. I root for Connor Ingram. I want him to do extremely well, but he just hasn't been available all the time over the past couple years. And I think that scared some teams away. I hope he goes down to the American Hockey League

if he's not traded and he gets off to an awesome start and intrigues some teams. I hope it works out for him. But I wasn't surprised at that number that he didn't get claimed this time around. D. Pietro and Stevenson, I have no doubt teams are going to be looking hard at those two guys. Also, Kyle, I did want to mention people were surprised that Edmonton didn't take Ingram.

What did we learn when we were in Edmonton about Calvin Pickard? He may be the most popular guy in that room. Yeah. hugely popular teammate he's at a million now obviously guys like di pietro and stevenson would be less but also pickard when he's played he's gotten w's for the oilers and i could see them looking at the salary for ingram and saying no but the way the players to a man talk about talk about Pickard I would be curious to see if the Oilers would be

would want to unseat him Oh yeah I think The answer is no there For sure This is business And if you believe in a guy like Stevenson or DiPietro You have to look at it But

I was very intrigued by what those guys said about him And the only reason reason I would even wonder is these guys make less than him. But it's very, very clear. He's a hugely popular player in that room. Anyway, I think there will be teams this week

curious to see what the Bruins do and the capitals do. Yeah, should also point out, I mean, the oilers have a combined 3.6 million of their salary cap dedicated to their net right now. And they think about that

A lot. A lot. It's not like the, the goal to any position is weighing down their cap flexibility right now. So some other things, just other situations to take a look at here. Luke Hughes, all I've heard is there's still work to do.

Yeah. I'm so careful. I'm so careful at this time of the year because it's like with the docks, right? we kept on hearing no movement, no movement, no movement. The ducks move and the deal gets done, right? So you have to be so careful at this time of year. But I've heard with Hughes that there's still work that needs to get done there. And with Evangelista, I'm not sure how much the predators have moved here.

I've talked about the Jack Quindle two times 3.37. um you know this is this is a big year for the predators and uh it it just seems to me like they want to they want to show that this year is going to be different and i think they've taken a i wouldn't even say it's a hard line i think i think they've got a number and they've kind of said this is our number and i'm not sure that they've moved very far and part of this to me is just they want to show that last year didn't go well the tone of this year is going to be different so i don't know how that one gets solved at this point in time um i think that guys got a bright future did you see that

uh evangelista is on the cover of nashville lifestyles magazine most beautiful people for 2025. Do you think that's worth a half a million race? Like, do you think they look at that and say that's an extra half a mill? This is a city that has Roman Yose. How can you say no to this face? Right. Say like, Roman Yossi is their captain and they've got young Luke Evangelista on the cover of

that thing. Kids got a great head of hair. I got to hand it to them. Do you think the cover says Roman Yossi is a dog compared to this guy? Yes, there's an op-ed somewhere in there. Once they sign Evangelista, that should be the predator's marketing slogan. That's right. You think he's handsome.

Wait till you see this guy. That's all I had on Luke Evangelista. Yeah, Samberg, sorry. But that's important stuff, Kyle. I'm glad you dropped that into the pod. People, hockey fans have to know this, that Luke Evangelista is the cover boy for Nashville. Dylan Sandberg, I didn't see it.

He got hurt the other night in their game against Calgary, the Jets game against Calgary. Yeah, collision with Ryan Lomburg, I believe. Yeah. And Scott O'Neill called it kind of a fluke. I assume I've heard they're going to know more in the next couple days, but the word is he's going to miss time, but it's not a worst case scenario.

I don't want to put a timeline out there because I'm not sure anybody really knows 100% yet, but what I heard was miss time, not worst case scenario. So if you're, if I would say that would qualify as good news based on the worry that was coming out of Winnipeg. So I hope that it turns out to be the case. And, oh, Kyle Connor, that's another one we've dealt with from time to time. I think I've heard there's real willingness on both sides to do something. I heard that one's going to be structure. In terms of bonuses and all that?

Yeah, Jets don't do bonuses. Not a lot. And so I heard that'll be what they're going to have to sort out, is structure. All right. Well, you mentioned worst case likely being avoided with Sandberg. The same cannot be said it appears for Alexander Barkov of the Florida Panthers. I mean, you want to talk about freak accident, what happened in practice there. And next thing you know, it's knee search.

surgery, damage done to the ACL, MCL, expected to miss seven to nine months. So anywhere from late April, would be early on in the playoffs to effectively missing the entire year right through the Stanley Cup final. And you go back to Elliott, like when they went to the Global Series in Finland last year, it was a real good education, I think, for the rest of us to get a better sense of how revered he is back in his home country. I remember Paul Maurice kind of talking about what a lift that. was for his group at that point in the season,

just seeing how beloved their captain is back there. He's one of the few guys in the league now that was at the Olympics in Sochi in 2014, but you remember he only played two games, then he got hurt. He was done for the tournament back then. And so, of course, there's the whole question about what does this mean for Florida?

But I think front of mind for a lot of people when this all came out was, man, oh man, what a bummer this guy is going to miss the opportunity to Captain Finland at the Olympics. What this showed, if he didn't know it already, is the deep respect the league has for Barkoff. Just all the people who were really disappointed to hear that he was out and that he was going to miss the Olympics, as you said, and we'll see about the season. The timeline that Florida said is seven to nine months, and we'll find out here at some, point, do the Panthers go through the process where they declare him out at some point for

the regular season and the playoffs so they can get the full cap relief? Thanks to the new CBA and the new rules, the Panthers cannot get the full Barkoff cap relief of 10 million unless they declare him out for the regular season and the playoffs. The timeline's going to be pretty close, right? so but just seeing the reaction you know people he's he's a really popular teammate obviously like those guys love him but he's also a hugely respected opponent and i agree with you i think it stinks like you know bill zito's quotes where it was devastating and it is devastating because you want to see him get a chance to compete with finland at the

Olympics. And Finland is a team I found over the years that even though they haven't won gold, they always punch above their weight and they're always a really tough out. Like they're just a pain in the ass in these tournaments. And I say that with the utmost respect. So it's really disappointing to see Barkov out. I'll say this, Kyle. I had some people who were like, oh, he's out, Kach's out. They might have trouble making the playoffs. I think those people are nuts. I think this team is more than good enough to make the playoffs. No problem. Even without, you know, Barkoff for the regular season, at least, and Kachuk for a chunk of it.

It just makes no sense to me that people would think of that. Like, look what they have in goal. Look what they have on their team. You know, it probably makes Evan Rodriguez even more important. You know, the one thing about Barkov is that he, He makes the Panthers a match-up nightmare. He does all their heavy lifting, and then you have to deal with Bennett,

and then you have to deal with that unbelievable third line. Like, you know, Marshan being a third liner with Lundell and Louisstorinen, to me that was as much a reason as any that they won the Stanley Cup last year. And so, you know, not having Barkov there, it eliminates that, but they still have a lot of great players. I'm really interested to see if Lundel becomes the guy who takes a lot of those tough matchups Does he become the person who sort of become

Like instead of Bennett doing all that Does Lundel become Barkov light Even more than he already is Well yeah what's one of his nicknames Which one? Baby Barkov Baby Barkov that's right So does that they Does he embrace that even more?

But, you know, the people wondering if they're going to make the playoffs or might battle to make the playoffs, I think that's crazy. And I think we'll wait and see how this develops both in how the Panthers decide to replace them and if they declare them out for the rest of the season and the playoffs. You know, it's kind of, it kind of reminds me of one of the things I compared the Panthers to in the playoffs. was the bad boy pistons who were kind of like we're going to commit a billion fouls and we'll see how many of them they call well you know I think Michael Jordan was interviewed once and he hated the pistons and they always said like is there anybody that you like on the pistons and he goes Joe Dumars like nobody hates Joe Dumars everybody likes Joe Dumars like Burkhov's like that guy you know a lot of people out there and they're fans of

actually love the Panthers, but if you hate the Panthers, you can't hate Barcoff. He's their Joe Dumars. Like, no way can anybody hate Barkoff. He's just too likable. Yeah. Well, that was, I mean, I've got a great appreciation for greatness, especially with how hard it is to win now. That was one of the real intriguing things for me.

And still is going into this year as like, I mean, before this injury happened, it was basically the same band coming back for Florida. with a chance to try to do three in a row. So as you say, like the real fascinating thing for me is, do they think he's got a chance if they play long enough for him to come back? Or does that $10 million get put to work elsewhere? And then it's like giddy up after what they pulled off last year. Suddenly they could try to wield some sort of shenanigans

that'll get everybody talking and upset again. Yeah. I don't know, it's going to be, they're fine. How many other teams around the league would you go, hey, Sam Bennett and Anton Lundell are your top two centers? You're okay. You're pretty good. Yeah, you're not bad. You're not bad.

So this could be an even bigger coming out party for Anton Lundel potentially this year, which could be a nice sidebar to just a bummer of a story here midway through the pre-year. season schedule. All right, Elliot, you have the line the first week of the pre-seasons for the kids. Week number two is where things start to get serious and the separation really starts to take effect. So what have you got your eye on as we enter the second and final week of preseason hockey? Yes, the veteran players might care 50 to 75% this week. So this is what separates the truth from the lies.

who really is ready and who was purely a first week phenom. So guys I'll be watching this week, Zane Perak, Calgary. That'll be a big one. Actually, as we're taping this pod right now, Kyle, someone sent me a note, Braden Kootz of the Canucks. Scored again, played a lot. I don't know. I mean, to me, it's a lot.

to ask, but let's see what Vancouver does with him this week. Edmonton's got a bunch of guys. I'm really curious to see who starts the year for the Oilers. It's such a big season

for them for a lot of different reasons. So who separates themselves? Easton Cowan, Toronto. A bunch of Rangers guys. You talked about Gabe Perrault. Like, now it's week two.

What does he do to separate himself? Tanner Mollendike from Nashville. He played on Sunday, and somebody sent me a couple of clips of his, and Nick Hague's been hurt, so they kind of wondered if he could make the team. And he was hurt initially at the beginning of camp, so he's playing a bit of catch-up. Carter Yakumchuk from Ottawa. someone sent me a couple notes saying that he played pretty well

in their game in Quebec City against the Devils. So, you know, these are some of the things I'm going to be looking at this week because you're right. I really throw out a lot of stuff I saw in week one. Now I want to see when the rosters get a little bit more serious and the veterans say, okay, let's have one great tune up to start the season. who's still good I'll say this too

someone sent me a note they said that they really liked the way that Hampus Linholm looks early in the preseason and first of all I really like those Bruins jerseys they are sharp and I think the Bruins are going to be a big

bounce back team this year Kyle so you do yes I do they're like you know I think I think in the east the Rangers are nowhere near as bad as they showed last year, and the Bruins are better than they showed last year. Yeah, I mean, bounce back for sure, but, man, unless a lot of important bodies last year

via trade or elsewhere, still got some good players kicking around. I know that. I have to believe Swayman will be better. I understand that. McAvoy and Lynn Holmback. Yes, which is so critical. And how proud was McAvoy to show off that jersey when we saw him in Vegas? Oh, yeah.

I don't blame him. They are beauties. They are beautiful. All right, before we get to the final thought, Elliot, how about the scene in Pittsburgh on Saturday night? Feels like there was a few times the last few years when Mark Andre Fleury went back there and lots of us wondered, would this be the final time he takes the crease at PPG paints arena? So cap tip to the pens for the idea of not only having them come back to where at all. started, but actually suits up, plays a period, as you mentioned, and then the shootout as well after he had officially, I guess, retired at the end of last season. You know, goaltending, such a

results-driven position. What have you done for me lately? You look back over his career, especially in Pittsburgh, and really all of his stops, but he was often looked at for his charisma first, and then all the other numbers kind of followed after the fact. And that, just watching that on Saturday, Elliot, I think that's what. drove the sellout crowd, the standing ovation, multiple standing ovations over the course of the night to see him barreling down the tunnel and the bright yellow pads again, the acrobatics, kissing the posts, the pushups and the shootout, all a chance to see that one final time for the fan base that those that grew up with him and those that are maybe too young to remember

him at his peak in Pittsburgh, but certainly know all about it. This was so successful, Kyle, that I think it's going to be a trend. I hope so. I hope you're right about that. Not only successful in terms of just the reaction and how well it went. And you could, I give a lot of credit to the Penguins players, the other ones, who stayed away at the end of the game so that Crosby, Malk, and Latang and Flurry could have that one hug. like those other guys waited.

I thought that was whether they were told to do that or whether they did it themselves, it was really, really smart. And I think the Penguins deserve a lot of credit for doing it. But, you know, we aired it on SportsNet in addition to the Toronto Montreal game. And you could tell the crowd was bonkers. There are reports.

There were lineups to get in at some point. It was, like for a preseason game, there was more. energy and excitement than most preseason games, 99% of preseason games you will see. You know, so I think we'll see this again. The only thing that might hurt it, Kyle, is that they're cutting the number of preseason games starting next year, which no one is going to complain about. But, you know, if you only have a couple of goalies and a couple of preseason games, you're going to want to see them, you may not want to want to do this.

But, like, one of the first guys I thought of was Claude Jureau. Like, you're telling me that whenever Claude Jureux retires, you don't think that the Flyers would say, let's bring them back for a preseason game like that. Do you think it's different for skaters than for goalies in terms of asking that of somebody that just retired? I don't know. I mean, Flurry, some of those saves he was making, I was sore watching them.

He said afterwards, right? He goes, my hip sore. Yeah, exactly. I mean, he's sitting for two periods and then he has to go out and play. Yes, that by your right. You know how hard that is when you're in your regular career. Imagine that when he basically hasn't done much all summer. But like I said, Giroux, could you not see the Flyers doing that, inviting them to play a game?

And it would go over incredibly, I think. Yeah. Yeah, and people could poke holes. Yeah, you can't waste a spot for a whole game. That was a period versus whatever. People can make their arguments. But you don't think that in San Jose, if they would have thought of this, bring back Marlowe or Thornton. given Joe Pavelsky for a period.

Right. Well, I remember when... Next year, Copatar. Yeah. Although Copatar is still there. It's not the same. That's stupid. Yes. That's right.

He never left. Yeah. But I remember, and you would have been there too, when Alfredson announced his retirement, comes back to Ottawa. I know he didn't play. I mean, it was midway through the year. But remember, he took warm up that night.

Like, he threw the gear on again and took warm up before. I think the Sins played the Islanders that night at home. And anyway, he was out there full gear and the place was going crazy. Like I said, I don't think this is the last time we're going to see it. There's something, I feel the lust for nostalgia has never, never been higher for whatever reason right now. I agree with that. Part of it. Like look at the reaction.

See the wild brought back their old look? The home whites, it's their 25th anniversary of this year. Those jerseys look. The sharks going back to the early 2000 Jersey look. How many other teams? We mentioned the Bruins go on the throwback look. How many other teams have done it over the last five years?

We always remember the things that made us happy when we were younger. For sure. Always. It's that great office line. Which is? I wish there was a way of telling we were in the good old days before we actually left them. That's fantastic.

You know what Mark Twain's great line is? What's that? The problem with youth is it's wasted on the young. Yes. Six, seven. Thanks, Tom. Nice, Tom. That's good.

All right. Want to get to the final thought? Yeah. Okay, here we go. Final thought brought to you by GMC. So last week, as you may have heard, listening to our last pod, it was a live show we did from Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island. We were there, the three of us, for a few days.

We were invited there to take part in the 2025 NHL Media Summit. Sportsnet was a co-host of that event. A wonderful few days, excellent dinners. One of the other things that they did along from some of the presentations. And you had a great fireside chat with Gary Bettman. and the Thursday afternoon, and you had a choice, right? You could do the tasting tour, different spots around the island for great food. I mean, you can't miss on that one.

Or you could go out to the links at Crowbush, beautiful golf course and play nine holes. Three of us all chose golf. We go out there and we learn that it's set up to be your playing in foursums and to scramble. And there's prizes at stake. for those, the foursum that has the lowest combined score in a scramble. Now, Zach, who is supposed to be our fourth, he's with the ministry. He told us at dinner the night before. He goes, look, I've got some meetings early in the afternoon.

Going to be a little bit late, but I'll catch up with you guys midway through the round. I'll say, no problem. Now, something happened. I'm sure Zach's a busy man. Maybe the meetings ran long. Anyway, we start playing. He never shows up. So it's the three of us, the entire round.

We only played nine holes. There wasn't quite enough time to do 18, but we do nine. So naturally, between the three of us, we go, well, we'll kind of rotate each shot. One of us will take a second. So we ensure that all four shots are taken each time, you know, to capture the essence of a four-person scramble. Anyway, we get into the clubhouse at six under. We think we've had a good day. None of us thinks we're actually anywhere close to being in the hunt to win the thing.

Well, don't we win the whole thing? And I think very quickly, those that had a little inkling or any idea of our golf abilities started asking some questions, Elliot. So I got to, first of all, I just want to say, P.I. is spectacular. Oh. I've been there once before. In love. it was yes I am in love with PEI I've been there once before but it was a quick trip

even this was a quick trip it was basically one full day and two half days although I didn't fly out till 6 o'clock on Friday so I rushed back to Crowbush to play 12 more holes and Dom played 6 before he had to fly it was an awesome experience if you have ever thought about even an inkling of going to visit that province, go.

The food was incredible. The golf was incredible. The people are really friendly, really nice people. Go. It's worth it. I got a text from someone on Saturday. I was on the air and I got a text and I checked it in the commercial. And they said to me, are you sure that you guys didn't cheat?

Word was getting it. Was it someone from the event? Were they there? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And I said, I swear to God, we did not cheat. We did not cheat.

Because like you said, we got off six. We got off at minus six. And there was one of the people who was at the tournament. is a guy by the name of Devin Smith who works for the NHLPA and he is a phenomenal golfer and I believe that no matter what his group was going to win

I just have to say Kyle I want to give you the credit you were our anchor you played unbelievable and there were a couple of holes where you and I went to the tips I don't normally play the tips you could before

I could, and we just took the shots because the view was so incredible, you had to try. And on the par 317, you missed a hole in one from the tips by what, Dom, about three feet? Yeah, maybe even less than that. Maybe let, yeah, you know what? I would say probably, I would say less than that. I think that's too much. And that is a blind shot. you hit an incredible shot to do that you played great you carried us i would just like to say for the

record anybody who was there it was an honest minus six and we deserved the victory and i will not stand for this slander that we did not win this tournament on the up and up and nobody is more surprised than the three of us nobody yeah it was as i said a great day to have a great day because for what my capabilities are typically on average yeah i played out of my mind for two hours and it was quintessential scramble golf i think for us because there was like so many times where of the four shots two were nowhere close one was like eh not bad but we managed to get one that was like, that puts us in a spot to get a birdie here, as opposed to all four were just dynamite.

Like it was nothing like that. There was still a handful of golf balls that were lost along the way, but you need one of the four to be good. And I should also point out, we could not have had better weather that afternoon. Temperature wise, also wind wise. For those that have played at crowbush before, you know the location, it can get very very windy and the cross winds like that part 317 you mentioned like from the tips it's only

135 you think wow what a short part 3 from the back but when the wind gets coming off the ocean the way it can there some days it can be an absolute nightmare hole to try to play so it was just I should say a very scoreable course that day because of the conditions that also allowed us to get to 6 under but that was fun that was a cool that was a highlight of like We won't forget that trip.

It's a well done. Phenomenal. Go to P.I. Go visit. Yeah. And just to joy, enjoy the pace of life and the food. Yep. My goodness.

All right. That was the final thought. Brought to you by GMC. About time we take our first break and come back with a thought line. 32 thoughts. The podcast continues after this. Okay, welcome back. Time once again for the thought line. 1833-3-3-1-321-32 is the phone number to call to leave a voicemail, or you can email us at 32th Thoughts at Sportsnet.ca. And Elliot, you and I are in trouble once again. Is this about shutouts in the Stanley Cup final? Oh, no, actually. This is about something completely different. But let's start with your issue first.

Okay, so in the last pod, which was the live one at Prince Edward Island, we talked about shutouts in the playoffs and shutouts in the Stanley Cup final. And I mentioned that Frank McCool was the only person to get three shutouts in one Stanley Cup final. He got three in a row in the 1945 Stanley Cup finals, the Maple Leafs beat the Red Wings. And also shutout again, his granddaughter Tara McCool, was a longtime personality in, in the Calgary area.

So I said that he was the only one to do it in the Stanley Cup final, and the New Jersey Devils fans who have not stopped with Nico Hescher looking buff are now on me about the disrespect to Martin Broder. And I will say that one of the people who reached out was Peter Albeach, the great media relations major domo of the devil's organization, and when you get a text from a media relations person at 11 o'clock at night, you're thinking, this is never good. But Peter was one of several who brought up that Martam Bruder in the 2003 Stanley Cup final

against Anaheim had three shutouts, games one, two, and the decisive seventh game, all of them by scores of three to nothing. Now, Bauder did not do that in a row, but that doesn't make his feet any less impressive, including when the championship was on the line. So this podcast will have no more Broder disrespect. Kyle, I shudder to think that that is not the only mess that we are cleaning up in this pod. So there's clean up in aisle two and also clean up in aisle six? yes we got multiple aisle cleanup it's just a disaster right off the hop and i should have remembered the broder one as a young mighty ducks fans but i guess i should just uh you blocked it out

out of my mind yeah yes you need an analyst to ply that out of your mind with a crowbar that's right yes it was uh like men in black styles i went and i got the flash to forget oh gosh all right so here is the other thing also that went down in our live show in PEI last week was the question about hypothetically, Connor McDavid joining Toronto and has the league ever seen two of the best players in the game on one team before?

And I remember thinking this in my mind while we were discussing that answer in the moment, but it never actually came out of my mouth. Anyways, Griffin Porter tells us, the thought line was flooded. Flooded. Capital F flooded. with Oilers fans incensed at us going,

you fools, it's happening right now in Edmonton with Connor and Leon, two of the best players in the game playing on the same team. And you failed to mention that as you're rattling off some other examples over the course of hockey history. You know what? I get that, but I was kind of just thinking of if McDavid moved, so I didn't have that in my head. Yes, you're right.

Yeah. But I'm blaming it on the question, not on us. I'm accepting the blame for Broder, but on this Oilers, McDavid, dry-sidal thing, I'm transferring the blame elsewhere. There is a limited amount of blame I will accept per podcast, and we have reached that level. Okay, well, we'll move on then.

That's right. We've shuffled the blame elsewhere. Our hearts and minds are clear, and now we can continue. So because of all that, I feel it's only fitting we begin in Edmonton, okay? This goes back to the Puma Puma discussion. Okay. I thought we had moved on from this, but this one was worth mentioning. Caden from Edmonton.

Kyle, Dom, and Elliot, I was re-watching the Simpsons. And although I disagree with Elliot, it's clear Principal Skinner does not. Let's roll it, Dom. I saw some awful things in Nam, but you really have to wonder at the mentality that would desecrate a helpless puma. There you go. And this makes me think of another one of Principal Skinner's lines. First of all, Caden, I admire your honesty. I appreciate you sending that in. You made this podcast instantaneously better. But it also makes me wonder about one of Principal Skinner's other lines. And Kyle, tell me if I butcher at Slater. is it me who's wrong and all the children who are right? No, that's impossible. They're all wrong and I'm right.

I wasn't big enough of a Simpsons person growing up to tell you if you're incorrect or correct. Either way. It sounds right. Everybody knows that line and the GIF that's always out there with it. Am I so out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong. But, Caden, I appreciate your honesty. You are a true, true gentleman.

He was even kind enough to point out the exact moment. He goes, find season three, episode 17, at precisely this time code. So he provided all the info needed. That is a true fan. Great show, big fan. So as you can imagine, I like, we've gotten a number of submissions, fans and listeners with ideas about how to get to the bottom of this whole taxation differences. Oh, really?

Good for them. I like that. Okay. So I selected a couple and we can just kind of work our way through and you let me know what you like about the ideas as we proceed. Okay. So Al from Caledon, greetings. I have submitted a couple of questions in the past that did not make the grade. I was insulted by the fact you answered a question from some guy in Edmonton wanting to know what Edmonton's record was against teams wearing the color green.

Are you kidding me? You asked about a possible solution to fix the NHL salary cap issue when some locations pay no state tax. Solution is simple. Each team would have a calculated cap adjustment based on how much their location is charged. a state or provincial tax rate versus the league average. So he lays it out as such. You would calculate the total tax that would be paid on a maximum salary cap in each city based on the state or provincial rate. You would take the sum of the total across the NHL to determine the league average and then teams below that average would have a negative cap adjustment.

so their salary cap would be smaller and teams above would have more room on the other side. Now, he actually, he did a pretty impressive job in laying it all out in an Excel spreadsheet, but it's just difficult to convey that exactly over the audio airwaves. That is our podcast. So he looks at it this way.

Teams like Vegas, Florida, Dallas, Tampa, they would have $8.3 million less than what would be average because of their tax breaks in their states and teams like Montreal, Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary and the teams based in California would benefit the most. So essentially, it's taking the average in terms of what teams would be taxed on their salaries over the entire league and those to come in under it. You've got little less money to work with and those that are above it.

You've got a little more wiggle room to try to balance it out that way. What do you think? Al, I love the work. You put in the effort. I cannot explain enough how much I appreciate you putting in the effort and the energy and the thought that you put into this. And I do think that if this does get addressed, it's going to be something along this lines. Here's my issue with it, Al, and I know this will be an issue if it ever comes to this. I don't think anybody is going to accept teams not being able to spend the cap. I don't think the Players Association will ever accept a situation where teams are going to have to be below the cap. It doesn't benefit the players. And if I was a player, I would vote against that. If I was a team, I would vote against that. I don't think you're ever going to want a situation where, let's say, if the cap is $100 million,

this team could only spend to 92. I think your idea in a vacuum is excellent. I think in a practical manner that will never occur. And as a matter of fact, I do think that one of the things that we're going to see, I'm very curious to see what happens, whether it's this year or in the future, the first time a player making significant amounts of money

can't play in the playoffs because of the cap. I remember when this came up, there were players who said to me, what are we going to do, vote ourselves out of the playoffs? That's going to happen. So I think,

when that hits, I think you're going to see a realization that, oh boy, this isn't all good for us. And that's why I don't think you'll ever see them say, okay, because of your tax system, you can only spend, say, 92 instead of 100.

So I love your work. I love your effort. I think it's going to take that kind of work and effort to solve this if it ever gets addressed. I just think from a practical point of view, no team and no player is ever going to say, hey, let's make it so Vegas can't spend the cap. I don't think teams would ever want that not only because it could affect them too. And secondly, no player is going to say, hey, I can't. can't go to Vegas because they've got $8 million left to spend, no chance.

We're not voting for that. Okay, another one we included here. It's a very good breakdown. Miles from Medicine Hat. Like, I love the idea, and I like the fact that someone would put this much effort into it. I don't think that should be shamed. I really appreciate the work. For sure.

Miles from Medicine Hat was wondering, Elliot, about the idea of a salary cap based on actual take-home pay. for the players, as opposed to the actual contract itself. So cities where you're taxed at a higher rate, effectively, again, you've got more to work with because it's only based on the money that ends up in the players' hands at the end of all of it versus, again, Florida or a Dallas, where more of what the actual contract is signed for, they get to take home because of their situation there. I would be curious about that.

I would be very curious to hear how everybody would handle something like that. I mean, I think that would have maybe more of a chance than the previous one. But again, at some point in time, someone's going to have to sit down and explain to everybody what that's actually going to mean at the time. And when the players are well aware of the advantages of playing for a Dallas or a Vegas. And you would have to convince me that they would vote against the advantages of those kinds of places. The one I stick with, and I've mentioned it before, I think the advantage should only count to UFA contracts. Like, when you're drafted into the NHL, you are not a true

UFA in most cases until you've played seven seasons or you're hit 27 years old. Basically, the only other way you become a free agent before that is if a team renounces the rights to you. And so I think before you reach that point, you don't get the chance to choose where you get to play. So I don't think any advantage should count at that point. but after you're a UFA, when you can pick where you go, if you go to a team that doesn't have the tax advantages, that's where I would like to see some credit given. That's, and everybody can sit and figure out what's the appropriate credit,

whether it's Al's situation of comparing the tax advantages to each other, or it's take-home pay, as was just mentioned. but that's where I think the only place is the advantage should be reached, UFA contracts. You've got some creative listeners out there, I love it. Appreciate them taking the time to throw all that at us. You know what this reminds me, Kyle, is that the listeners are a lot smarter than the hosts. Yeah, you wake up every morning with that thought in my mind. It's not close.

It's not, it's not like. Andre de Gras almost beating Usain Bolt close it's no it's secretary it's you and yeah secretary it's you and me racing secretariat close

that's right secretariat and the Belmont stakes winning by a billion lengths Friedman and Buccasca still haven't figured out how to get out of the gates that's right

and the horses at the pool. All right, voicemail next. Ashley from Calgary. My question is whether the NHL preseason works similarly for ruffs and lines people to how it works for players. Do officials who typically don't work NHL games get a chance to officiate in the preseason to see if they can make the roster or is it basically already set?

also do all the officials have like a camp or something to warm up and get physically ready for the season thanks guys love the program go leafs go and go jays go yes go jays go we are tap this part of the podcast before the jays play on sunday and kyle has his jays cap on but they got this they are going to wrap up the east we'll see how this part sounds on the podcast we'll see how this part sounds on the pod on Monday morning. Now, I'm sure you did some work, Kyle, but I'll say this to Ashley's question. There is an official's camp in August.

They get together every August, and they do have a referee and linesman camp. Is it the beginning of September? Okay. And at that camp are not only the full-time referees and linesmen. There are some part-time ones, and there are some ones who may,

may not be in the NHL yet, but have been signaled to the league that they have potential to be candidates in the future and they get invited to to be part of the group. Anything else you want to add the schedule? Yeah. So when they're there, so it was in Buffalo this year. And two days of medicals, physicals, fitness testing, all that, like similar to the actual players would do. And then three days where they got classroom sessions going over, there's rule changes or

just refreshers on different gameplay and how certain situations can or shouldn't be handled. And then they also go on the ice too. And a lot of guys bring their full gear. They've got six teams worth of players. And they have like a little mini tournament amongst the officials. And for those that aren't actually playing in the games, they will officiate them as well. So that kind of helps get them going and get feeling like they're ready to.

to start working games again. And typically, I was told five to six pre-season games for officials and Limes people that they go through. So they are well-versed and well up to speed again by the time the regular season comes around second week of October. Great question, Ashley. Great homework, Kyle. Thank you. All right. Back-to-back voicemails.

This one coming from Patrick. Speaking of trivia questions where we may not know the answer. Who was the last player to play in the NHL who never wore a helmet? A lot of people are going to jump to Craig McAvish, as he was the last player, but he actually did wear a helmet for several games in his career. I don't know what the answer is. From my own research, I think it might have been Randy Carlyle. But I'm curious if you guys know the answer.

Well. Is Randy Carlyle the answer? As far as I know, yeah. Really? 1,055 games helmet list. And his last season was 92, 93. Of course, McTalbis. Because Larry Robinson wore a helmet at the end of his career, right?

That was the other name that immediately, yes, Larry Robinson did. And another one who actually jumped into my head. was Guilla Point, but LaPointe would not have played as late as Carlisle. Another guy that would have been close. Did Brad Marsh ever wear a helmet? Oh, that's a good one. I think he almost played, he played into that 92, 93 year. Oh, yeah, he was on the first Ottawa team.

Exactly. like Carlisle did. But I believe Carlisle... I have a picture here of Marsh wearing a helmet with the Philadelphia Flyers. Right. There we go. Yeah.

He did wear it. And he did it a little bit with the Atlanta Flames. So that would take him out of the running. As far as I know, Randy Carlisle is the last guy. If anybody else can think of anyone who did it, I would appreciate it. If you go back, I mean, I could think of a bunch of guys in the 70s who would have retired without wearing a helmet.

But into the 80s and 90s, I don't remember that. And now we're getting down to the wire of who's going to be the last guy, no visor, to have this conversation all over again. So it's getting tight. But yeah, Patrick, I don't. think you were right. Even though you didn't feel you had the answer going in, Randy Carlisle, I believe. At least there was preparation. He had some suggestions. It wasn't just an abject failure of responsibility like Kyle's was. I still don't know where you got the idea of trivia out of that one

from a while back. It's so good. All right, we got one more here. Andrew from Frederick Maryland. I am curious which player you think has the best chance to be the next former NCAA player to win the heart trophy. It's clear that the new CHL NCAA agreement will pave the way for more MVP tier talent to play college games. Macar, Eichol, Celebrini, Quinn Hughes, all come to mind along with maybe Gavin McKenna one day. Fingers crossed for Ryan Leonard. I look forward to your thoughts. Thanks for nothing. Oh, geez. Wow. Hey, Andrew, wait until we answer the question until you'll come at us, but thanks for nothing. Yeah.

He's just getting out in front of it. The preemptive, thanks for nothing. So here's my question, though. Does Andrew mean players who are in the NCAA now? Well, I think just players that at one point were there and then reached the NHL. Like he mentioned McCar, right? He mentioned McCar, Hughes, Jack Eichol, all of those.

are very legitimate guys. Like those would be at the top of my list. You know, Macklin Sellebrini, you would think that the way, at some point in the next five to ten years, he could be in that conversation. Even think about, I mean, if the jackets had got in last year, I don't know if he was going to win it,

but just the momentary. him around Worenski. So Connor Halebuck, obviously, is a once NCAA level player that has won it. Yes. One of the names that jumped into my head. Martin San Luis at Vermont and Tim Thomas was the playoff MVP. You know who jumped into my head? I don't know if he's a heart trophy kind of guy, but he's a really good talent.

Kyle Connor. sure I mean a guy that's capable of putting up 50 because it seems like a lot of things need to go obviously right for a bid to win a heart trophy

as a player right? Like you've got to have a by and large career best season and you've got to hope that with all the other great players around the league that nobody else really goes off to that level

that opens the door for you, right? Because how many times have we seen players have seasons that other years would be worthy of the Hart Trophy but because a McDavid, a McKinnon, a Kutrov did their thing, they don't end up being the guy holding the trophy at the end but you know one guy that jumped to my head but i had to remember that he never played NCAA jack hughes right went right from the program to the devils so i think you named

a lot of the key guys and i also agree that it's going to be happening more and more with where this is all headed i agree with that too again if we missed anybody Please let us know. And I would say of who we laid out here, McCar's the next guy for me. Oh, you know what? I'll tell you this. You know what?

I'll give you one. It's a name that people look at and say that name will have voting weight if he has a big year is Brady Kachuk. No. I could see, I could see Brady Kachuk being MVP of this. league at some point. Wow. So I moved from Ottawa over the summer and now you are taking over the Ottawa market pandering role. This is good. Well, one of us has to. No, I know you were crushed when they lost to the Leafs in their

exhibition opener. Oh, yeah. That's right. You burned your senator's pajamas. I could see Brady Kachuk being MVP of the league. Well, you think that's a nutso prediction? No, I don't think it's nutso, but again, like, I don't I think he can score 40 in this league.

I do believe he can, Elliot, but will he be like a 110 point guy? Maybe. I don't think, I don't think for a MVP that matters. But you need a lot of things going your way to look past. Your team has to be good.

guys that put up those kind of you have to have a big role and i think that the kuchuch name for what those guys do has a lot of respect around the league and maybe he won't be their leading score but let's just say for argument's sake the senators win the division this year i will wager you now that if they win the division his name is big in the MVP conversation to your point after four nations the rest of the hockey world has looked at him differently. Now he's going to be featured on the latest Amazon series coming up. Yeah.

There's going to be a lot more attention to him again to start the year. So that's not a bad one at all, Elliot. Dom, I want you to title this podcast, Bukascus, colon, Kachuk, no shot at heart. Done, no problem. And then subtitle, Friedman, Col. Julian, Jack Hughes, great NCAA career. That's good. That's really good.

So Brady Kachach's my guest. That's the guy I'm putting there. I like that as a dark horse candidate that could emerge. Very good. Thank you, Andrew, for that exercise to wrap up this edition of the thought line. And thank you to record for... And Andrew, thank you for nothing. Thank you for nothing.

think. Griffin Porter, thank you once again for putting this list together for us. We'll take one final break and come back to wrap up this episode of 32 Thoughts, the podcast, after this. Okay, welcome back. Elliot, to one of the things. I thoroughly loved about this podcast as a long-time listener of the show was for a number of years, episodes would end with Canadian music content, a Canadian artist track, featured to wrap up the show. And we are proud to announce that we are going to begin doing that again this season. The highlight number of Canadian bands and artists. I'm glad you did it. Well, and thanks to Carson Iledge and his team at Sportsnet for going through the necessary channels to make sure we can, in fact, do this.

Thank you, Carson and crew, yes. We were just in PEI last week, Elliot, but that is where we start for our debut music flavor this week. Based in Charlottetown, PEI, Coyote, has been a staple of Atlantic Canada's music scene for over 15 years, their 2014 album. Proof of Life took home several awards, including an East Coast music award for pop recording. Their upcoming EP, Hope You Feel, is a time capsule, a collection of recovered songs from a decade-old recording session, and the title track is out now. To celebrate the EP, the band will be performing at Babah's Lounge in Charlottetown on the date of its release, October the 24th.

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