32 Thoughts: The Podcast - The King

Episode Date: November 25, 2022

Jeff and Elliotte pay tribute to Börje Salming (00:10).They also discuss the latest 32 Thoughts blog where Elliotte talks about Patric Hörnqvist (12:20) and Jesper Bratt (14:50), the crazy game between Toronto-New Jersey (15:50), Ryan Reaves being traded to the Wild (26:40), what might be next for the Senators (29:00) and the Canucks seem to be finding a bit of rhythm (33:30).Borje Salming ALS Foundation: https://borjesalmingstiftelse.se/en/home/This podcast was produced and mixed by Amil Delic, and hosted by Jeff Marek and Elliotte Friedman.GET YOUR 32 THOUGHTS MERCH HEREMusic Outro: Broder Daniel - No Time For Us (Full Track)Email the podcast at [e-mail] or call The Thought Line at 1-833-311-3232 and leave us a voicemailAudio Credits: 104.5 The Team, CBC, NHL Network and SVT.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.

Svansktextning.nu What a beautiful tribute that was. That was in the second period of the Lexan vs. Brinas game on Thursday afternoon in afternoon in North America. Anyhow, Breenus was a team that Boreas Salming played for the news on Thursday. The passing at the age of 71 of Toronto Maple Leafs and Detroit Red Wings and Trey Kroener star Boreas Salming. Welcome to 32 Thoughts, the podcast presented by GMC and the new Sierra AT4X. Elliot, we've spent a lot of time talking about Borea Salming over the last couple of weeks, and I wanted to add a couple of more things to it, certainly after Hall of Fame weekend and the

outpouring of love that we saw on Thursday and those tributes and memories are all over social media and keep flooding in, and they're all wonderful. I thought a lot about Borea Salming after my radio show was over and had a chance to talk to Daryl Sittler, and he spoke so beautifully about Borea. How could he not? Gave us a wonderful moment a week and a half ago holding Salming's arm in the air before that game

against the Pittsburgh Penguins on Hall of Fame weekend with tears in not just Daryl Sittler's eyes, but everybody's eyes that day. And the one thing that I keep coming back to is, you know, we should all be so lucky to know how everybody feels about us before we pass. And I look at Boreas Salming and the fact that he, you know, flew to Toronto for those games, for Hall of Fame weekend, the standing ovations, the tears, the hugs, the outpouring of love from like Elliot, every single hockey corner mentioned on the Monday at Hall of Fame by various, like Gary Bettman by, know by swedish hockey players again we should

all be so lucky to have an understanding of how we are loved before we pass on that's one of the things that i feel about boria salming today it's an incredible outpouring to be honest listening to you say that jeff i don't think i'd want that for myself because I know it would fall well short of what Boreas Salming received. Me too. But I think that's the thing that a lot of people feel today is grateful that that happened. Yes. ALS is a horrible, horrible disease. Lou Gehrig died 90 years ago almost, and we still haven't made a ton of advancements. It's just a brutal, disgusting disease. And I think everybody knew when they heard that this was the diagnosis, that it was very serious. And, you know, everyone's sad today, but I think everyone's glad too that they got that final goodbye.

On some level, there's closure. Yeah. And that's the best thing about this is he got the proper send-off. That is the way that Boreas-Solming should have been celebrated while he was there to see it, while everybody was there to witness it. I have to tell you, I am still amazed, Jeff. And Sittler said it today when I spoke to him briefly and Mike Fariman from the Maple Leafs organization,

who was one of the people who helped organized it. I still think about what he said a couple weeks ago, and that is that how did the stars have to align for it to be hall of fame weekend back to back home games, Friday and Saturday for the Maple Leafs, which almost never happens three Swedes going into the hall of fame that weekend and six Maple Leafs being able to start who are Swedes in their natural positions.

Three forwards, two defensemen, and think about it, Eric Shalgren in goal. Yeah. Like Samsonov and Murray had to be both out for Shalgren to play. And nobody roots for injuries. Nobody wants that. But just think of the karma like you you think about somebody looking out like i don't know who out there believes in a divine

power but there was somebody that wanted that to happen and bory salming himself wanted very much to be in north america to to be with his. And it was great seeing him with, you know, Daryl Sittler and Lanny McDonald and Tiger Williams and standing beside Matt Sundin. Ah, the whole thing, you know, Borya Salming wasn't the first Swede in the NHL. That was Ulf Sterner with the Rangers in the 64, 65. Tommy Bergman, you know,

played a year with the Detroit Red Wings a year before Borea Salming started with the Maple Leafs, but he was the first star, Elliot. Like you talk about those players on the Maple Leafs that started, you trace all of that back to Borea Salming because of what Borea meant to Swedish hockey and what Borya meant to Swedish hockey players. And I really enjoyed your most recent blog as you talked about toughness with Borya Salming. And there's one other thing that I want to add to it, because we know how much he endured and how much he refused to change and how much he got speared and cross-checked and attacked and all of it and wouldn't change his game and, you know, kept plowing through.

That was Borya Salming. all of it and wouldn't change his game and kept plowing through. That was Borya Salming. One thing that we never really talk about with Europeans who came over to North America to play in the NHL at that time is how tough it must have been to leave. We have this idea that everybody dreams of playing in the NHL and everybody wants their stars to go in the and go to the nhl whether you're in prague or helsinki or stockholm or karuna in borja salming's case it was hard oh yeah on both sides that's what i'm saying it's really tough i mean you know there's a documentary out there where his wife spoke about about, about just how difficult this was. It's been four years now since Borya Salming and Inga Hammerström arrived in Toronto to play for the Maple Leafs.

Since Borya spoke very little English at that time, his wife-to-be Margita told us about the mixed feelings back home in Sweden with their number one star going to North America. Most of the people, I think, are happy to see them here. They want the Swedes to do well in NHL, of course. But there are some who had wanted them to be still in Sweden, of course. Once it was a fan to Borja who called him up and called him a traitor because he was going to leave. In the short time he's been here, Borja has become one of the National Hockey League's biggest stars. That was a really difficult decision for Borea Salming.

But again, it was his resolve and it was his toughness that got him through. And he had to go back to Sweden and hear all of those things as well. And one of the things that Daryl Sittler and I spoke about on the radio show on Thursday was, and this was such a beautiful moment, and you can find it, it's available on YouTube if you haven't seen it before. and I spoke about on the radio show on Thursday was, and this was such a beautiful moment, and you can find it. It's available on YouTube if you haven't seen it before. It's Borya Salming playing for Sweden in the 1976 Canada Cup, and he's out there being introduced by himself on the blue line to a standing ovation at Maple Leaf Gardens against Team Canada. And it was emotional then, and on a day like this, Elliot, it's even more emotional.

Jeff, that is beautifully said. We're going to put a link in the show notes. There's a Boreasalming ALS Foundation. If you'd like to contribute, any amount counts, any amount helps. Look at the link in the show notes. amount counts. Any amount helps. Look now, everyone in the building is standing. Gregorius Omen, he has scored two goals and two assists in the Canada Cup competition. Thank you. Thank you very much. It is a fantastic evening for me and my family. It is amazing to have my banner up there

for all the great corona new people. It is also amazing that my banner will be there forever. I would like to say thank you to Toronto Maple Leafs for taking care of me and my family at all times. And to all you people in here tonight and all the Toronto fans out there, you are the greatest. Thank you very much.

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That can be you, ladies and gentlemen. That can be you. Okay, Elliot, a couple of names here. Patrick Hornquist and Jesper Bratt. I want to have a bigger conversation about the Devils right now. Their 13-game winning streak just ended, but we'll start with Patrick Hornquist here. We know with Anthony DeClaire on the horizon,

there's going to have to be some type of move made by the Florida Panthers. And according to your blog, it looks like Patrick Hornquist is off-limits. So I wrote earlier this week when I did my first of the two 32 thoughts blogs. And please, people, I had people coming after me that I only had 13 of notes in the last blog. Give me a break here. I'm trying to get a new rhythm going. Okay, everyone.

You guys are merciless. Anyway. Just stretch them out more. Seriously, dude, just stretch them out more. I wrote that Duclair, when he comes back and they're capped out they've had to play with 17 twice i said duclair when he comes back his salary is three million i'm not convinced they want to trade duclair i don't know what they're going to end up doing but some people have said well it's obviously it's declared no i don't think it's obvious that it's duclair anyway uh my point being

that they have some options here they're going to look over. And a lot of people were like Hornquist, Hornquist, Hornquist. And someone called me and said, whatever you do, don't put Hornquist on that list. And I said, okay. And I said, why? And they said, because remember initially that when hornquist was traded from pittsburgh to florida he initially said no and then he changed his mind but one of the things that uh he said was i'd like a guarantee that i'm not going to be traded from here and i don't know if there was an exact guarantee given but i think there was a conversation about we recognize how you feel and we'll honor it now these things can always change i've learned never to deal in absolutes but it appears as if it's unlikely

that hornquist would be the guy you know i really like patrick hornquist staying on the florida panthers why is that i just love the idea that both the coach and one of the players on this coach's team were both selected last overall in their drafts paul maurice 1985 252nd to the philadelphia flyers patrick hornquist 2005 last to the nashville predators i'm cool that's a good one i have to tell you there's a thought for you if you're stretching for another thought to get to 16 ask the audience apparently i apparently i'm short every week um you're right about jesper bratt as well and listen throughout this streak we've i think even casual hockey fans know just how good this guy is uh what's the latest with the contract credit first to uh james nichols from the fourth period he actually reported that there was a conversation with Rick Comero,

who's the agent who represents Jesper Bratt. I don't think that there's anything imminent here. Now, first of all, he can't sign until January 1st because he's on a one-year deal. But you're allowed to talk. Some people think that, well, you're not allowed to talk until January 1st. No, that's not the case. You can talk.

There's just nothing formal. And I do think he's their top priority. New Jersey has a bunch of UFAs, but I think Brad has established himself as the guy they have to deal with first. And I believe that is their plan. Like I said, I don't think there's anything imminent. I think this is very early. I still think it's going to be a grind to get there,

but I do think the Devils have said that this is the number one thing they have to deal with. Okay, Jesper Bratt's team, the New Jersey Devils, had their 13-game winning streak, Elliot, ended in, let's just say, controversial fashion. Well, controversial to some, obvious to others, and we're talking about the three disallowed goals okay the situation with nathan bastion the situation with tatara on murray

and the situation with eric holla and the kick we'll get to what happened after in a couple of moments but your thoughts on the three disallowed goals. First of all, great game. Maybe the best game of the year, I have to say. It was really good. Just the drama was incredible. Skill. You know, the first one, I give a lot of credit to Down Goes Brown. Sean has done a lot of work on way too much work, more work than I would ever want to do on goaltender interference.

And one of the things that he discovered which I think is totally right is if a player is in the crease on their own accord basically 95% of the time that goal is getting overturned and if you watch Bastion he spins away from the defender and he ends up in the crease and one of the things i've learned over the years not to do is watch these reviews too much in slow motion yeah because in slow motion it looks like murray has a ton of time and at regular speed he doesn't it's hamilton hamilton cross ice feed to the cloud back to siegenthaler rips one scores devils take a 1-0 lead with 12.25 to go in the first. Woo!

The impact line, the impact line doing what they do best, forechecking, taking the puck away. You know, and it goes back to Siegenthal off a nice pass from McLeod. But way on the right side, Dougie Hamilton, he's slapping his stick. He wants it. They give it over. Siegenthal gives it over. Siegenthaler gives it over. We got a

problem? They're discussing it. Are they talking about a goalie interference? Are they talking about... What are they talking about here? We got Bastian out in front, Chico. Okay. He turns in the crease. His skate

strikes the goaltender's skate. He's challenging the play that there was no goaltender in the fair. Okay, good, good. But I got to say, so anyway. Now, I will say this. One of the things that drives me crazy about these review calls is when a goalie resets or how much time he needs to reset.

I hate that. I think it's too subjective. But that one at real speed, to me, that was a simple call. Bastion's in the crease on his own accord. His skate and Murray's skate do connect. It's not a long time. For me, Jeff, that one was a no-brainer based on everything I've learned about goaltender interference. I'm going to skip to the third one. The third one was a no-brainer. Based on everything I've learned about goaltender interference.

I'm going to skip to the third one. The third one was a no-brainer. It's a kick. You can't count that. Yes, he has. 43 seconds left on the power play for the Leafs. But here comes Holla all the way up the ice across the blue line. Tried to stick handle through a guy.

Bastion picks it up in the slot. Bastion to Holla. Big save there by Murray. Oh, empty net. Scores! Count that one. Oh, empty net. Scores! Count that one. Let's just wait. I'm just waiting here

on a kicking motion. I hope I'm dead wrong. I hope I'm dead wrong. At least we got to the goal song, Chico. We did. Here we go to see it. There. Okay. Holla's kicking it up to his

skate. To his stick. Ah it's a kicking motion. Don't get too excited yet folks. I don't know. I'm looking at Kyle my statistician. See what he thinks. It does go off a leaf. I'm looking at Kyle, my statistician. See what he thinks. It does go off a leaf.

I mean, it could go either way again, folks. Way under review to determine if the puck was kicked into the net. The second one, I think, is the tough one. To me, I see a case there where you could say, look, there was contact. It was not a penalty, but we can't allow the goal to go in like that. I'm okay with that ruling generally. I've got to tell you, Murray, though, there was a little bit of embellishment there.

Hey, hey, it's World Cup time. It's World Cup time. It's World Cup time. Come on. If there's anyone I would have an issue with, it would be the second one. Yeah. Rips it around the glass. Comes out to Severson. Severson with the empty net.

Shoots. He scores. No, no, no, no. No, they're saying the goalie got interfered with. Oh, the crowd is going to be going crazy. So the goalie, if you're looking at the leaf net, he goes to the right to play the puck. He's outside the crease. It's not the same when he's in the crease.

I haven't seen the replay, but he was totally out of the play. And it was, I mean, a completely empty net. And the officials are talking about it let's see what they're gonna say and everybody's looking at on their pad i i don't know what happened all i know is laying down to the side is murray the goaltender So that's the only one I look at and say the devils may have a case. Although I also understand that the league is always going to err on the side of the goalies. Always, always, always. I think we should err on the side of goals when there's no attempt to really hit somebody.

But the league will generally err on the side of goalies outside of the crease. Okay. What do you think? I'm fine with all three calls. As a matter of fact, the one that got the fans the hottest to me

seemed like the easiest, the hollow goal. Well, that's black and white rule. You can't even argue that. That's what I'm saying. I understand that there's a lot of steam that's built up here for New Jersey Devils fans at that moment.

And they've already seen two disallowed and, oh, here comes another. But really, I mean, if you're having a look at this one, I mean, I get it that you're upset. I know like this, you know, sports, you know, you lead with your heart and you lead with your emotions. I get that. And you're frustrated and you want to see your team, you know, uh, 14 uh in a row i get it we all do but that to me seemed like the easiest one but of course that's the one that caused everything to explode at the rock and that's

why i want to get your thoughts on here too like after video review the puck was kicked into the net, no goal. Wow. I mean, it wasn't kicked into the net. It was kicked to the top of the crease, and then it hit a Leaf player and goes in. Oh, no, the fans don't want to do that. They're throwing beer cans. Don't like this. Devils will take the penalty. Bad, bad, bad.

No, come on, you guys. You're going to hit somebody in the head. And even Nico Heischer is saying enough. What is wrong? That's ridiculous. I get that it's frustrating, but I believe they could still hand out a penalty to the Devils because of the crowd. I've got to tell you, I love our crowd. But, you know, Paul is saying the same thing. I hate it when people throw things on the ice.

Outside of hats and teddy bears, the teddy bear toss game. It's just so dangerous and just so stupid like there's a couple of things that i really i can't stand glass bangers i have got no time for glass bangers really and yeah i hate it yeah i really hate glass bangers i figured you of all people no no it's ridiculous i am actually shocked at this i hate i got i have zero time for glass bangers and i've got even less time for people that throw things on the ice. Beer, sodas, jelly beans, whatever it was

hit the ice. It was almost to the point, and I know that the place would have gone banana sandwich if they would have done this, but if I'm the officials, in order to make sure that this doesn't happen in another rink during another game,

I don't want a warning. I want the officials, and I'm disappointed. I just found something out about you that you've never heard this term before. I want the official to throw the dog at the Devils. Yeah, I've never heard a delay of game called a dog. You've never heard it called the dog? No. Oh, they got the dog.

Ooh, tough one. Really? No, because when we were when we were kids if our coaches ever wanted us to take a delay of game penalty and at that time puck over glass wasn't automatic they would just say take the penalty that's what they would say so i always we always knew when we were playing if the coach said take the penalty we knew it was like a delay of game penalty or something yeah for us it was yeah if they're knew it was like a delay of game penalty or something. Yeah, for us it was, yeah, if they're going to do the delay of game, it was always just put your skate on the puck along the boards

and don't move. Don't try to move it, no matter what the referees say. We were getting killed on a five-on-three once, and I picked up the puck and threw it down the ice. Come on, you did not. And the coach said to me, like, what were you doing? And he said, you told us to take the penalty. And he goes, you got me on that one.

It was a running clock, too. The other team was furious at me. Oh, I'll bet. But were you a little bit surprised that they didn't get the delay of game or dog as we're going to try to catch on here? I would be really curious to hear if the league warns teams to say that that was a one-off and we won't be that patient again. Like part of me wondered if it was just one of those situations where they were like, yeah, they've had three goals disallowed. We're going to vent, let them vent a little bit.

Like it's not good. The thing about that is you never want other fans to get the idea that if you're really pissed off because too many calls are going against you that's okay and it wouldn't surprise me if they send something out warning that we're not going to be as patient but part of me is like well it's kind of human nature look what's happening here We're going to give them a bit of break. Everybody listening. Don't throw things on the ice. Don't throw things on the ice.

No matter how upset you are. And even though Elliot doesn't seem to mind you, I do. Don't bang the glass. Don't bang the glass. Please don't bang the glass. Thoughts on a couple of trades this week. We should catch up on.

I want to get to Connor Timmons in a couple of seconds to Toronto, but first Ryan Reeves, who had been scratched in eight of the Rangers we should catch up on. I want to get to Connor Timmons in a couple of seconds to Toronto, but first, Ryan Reeves, who had been scratched in eight of the Rangers' previous nine games before the trade, goes to the Minnesota Wild in exchange for a fifth round pick. You write about this at 32thoughts at sportsnet.ca.

Elliot. Yeah, I think this is a situation where Ryan Reeves had asked if he wasn't going to play, could he be moved? And the Rangers obviously accommodated it. This will give them some more cap room. The Rangers aren't an LTIR.

They're fortunate. I was checking CapFriendly, Puckpedia. If it stays this way, although nothing ever stays this way, you plan, God laughs, nothing ever stays this way. 6.5 million approximately in cap space at the deadline, which will give them a lot of flexibility to do things. What's half of Patrick Kane's contract? I don't know why I bring that out.

That could be double retention anyway. I don't know why I throw that name out there anyway. I know. Everybody ties it in with the Rangers. No question about that. Nothing to see here yet. The other thing about Reeves is Minnesota was looking, they were considering some ideas.

I think one of the things that Minnesota was kind of considering is, number one, I don't think they're interested in anybody with term unless it's a game changer. And that's because they have a lot of cap constraints because of Souter Parise. They're in prison right now. They're in cap prison. They're in cap prison. They're in cap prison, a maximum security facility.

And so I think, you know, he's only under contract for this year. That helped. I think the other thing too is I think, you know, Garen has some flexibility. He's also not in LTIR. So one of the things that I think he's kind of looking at is, you know, do we add a score? Do we add some edge? You know, if you look at some of the guys they have there, the role Foligno's played, things like that, they consider the stream physicality a key part of their game.

And I think that he kind of looked at it as, you know what, I'm looking at both, potentially adding some edge and also adding some scoring. And so now he's added some edge and I can still see him adding some scoring. A couple of other Canadian teams here before we wrap up, Elliot, the Ottawa Senators continue to lose we've talked about like look the last place team in the Eastern Conference are the Ottawa Senators the last place team in the Western Conference are the Anaheim Ducks we've talked about at what point does this season become about next season are we there for Ottawa are they now do we now say, is it going to be Conor Bedard or Adam Fantilli? Well, I think you kind of have to, you know,

the math dictates that you have to be there, but like I thought they really played hard on Wednesday night. Do you disagree? I don't disagree. As a matter of fact, I know that some Ottawa Senators fans may disagree with me here. There are a lot closer to it.

First of all, Vegas is an outstanding hockey team. And congratulations, by the way. I know it's in a losing effort, but nice to see Jake Sanderson score his first goal in the NHL. Many more to come. But I see individuals. I don't know that I see everybody, but I see a lot of members of that team still playing hard.

And that starts with the captain Elliot. I'm not ready to say that this entire team is just thrown in the white towel, not a chance, but it's tough, man. It's hard. Again, the numbers don't tell the whole story, but at five on five, I thought they were the better team. Like, to be honest, like how many bad games have they had? They had a bad game against San Jose had they had a bad game against san jose five to one and they had a bad game against a really ugly one at home against the devils

and i remember talking once with gord ash when when he was the general manager of the blue jays they had a time where they were struggling and they had an afternoon game and they had a big crowd a lot of the kids were there and he was really sour after they lost that game. And I remember talking to him later about it. And I remember asking, like saying, why would you be more sour about that one than any of the other losses at the time? And he said, it's an afternoon game.

We've got a lot of kids here. These are the games that you can really sell to fans. And they were down big early. And it reminded me of that game against jersey that you're it's an afternoon game you have a good crowd one of your biggest crowds of the year and and they were out of it early and those are the tough ones even more than the others what does gordon stalek always say about losing if you're gonna stink stink on the road yep that's the one don't do it at home but you know the thing is like again like a lot of Ottawa's

games like their underlying numbers aren't bad but I was on uh Brent Wallace's and Jason York's show and you know one of the things that we were talking about was Jason York said it he's he kind of said they sold too much hope and now the hope is there and you're portraying yourself a certain way and maybe they weren't ready and it's harder for the real fans of the team to handle this because they think they're going to be better but they're not like i still think ottawa's future is very bright it's hard to keep saying that when the expectations were so much better like i think columbus is going through the same thing like i think columbus's future is very bright but you look at the way it's going right now

and you kind of sit there and say man that's to stomach. But the truth is you really weren't ready for where you hoped you would go. And it's, it's a really tough place to be. Like, like I've seen teams quit on coaches before. I don't think this team is quitting on, on DJ Smith. I just don't. Nope. Um, cause, cause they're at five on five, they're still really good. You don't do enough to win, and the losses pile up, and it becomes difficult to sell that. Speaking of Columbus, by the way, I do wonder if Columbus is going to be a team here that takes a look at Chikrin.

That name's been out there for Chikrin for a while now. I'm glad you mentioned that. They've been around, oh, big time. They don't have Wierenski. They don't have blankenberg you know jake bean had surgery it doesn't sound good like i just wonder if it makes sense and obviously they're not giving away their best pick that's insane but they've got to find have a way that they can like it just makes a lot of sense to me i don't even necessarily think it's just for this season either to try to salvage something. No, you're not salvaging anything.

He's still got two more years on term. You might look at them and say, well, why have they been for Jacob Trick? Well, it's not necessarily just for this year. It's for the two subsequent years at a very team-friendly number. Real quick, Vancouver Canucks, you have a thought on that? It was a big win. It's a third-period win. Ethan Baer with the on that? It was a big win. Like it's a third period win.

Ethan bear with the heroics. That's a big win for Vancouver on Wednesday night at a, at a time when they really need one. Elliot. Absolutely. I do. I like, absolutely. I agree with you.

Um, they folded a lot of games, folded a lot of games this year when they had chances to win and this one, they didn't fold. I think that's huge. I'll tell you this. Someone said to me that Rutherford's going to let this play out with Horvat for a couple more months. Now, because I said that, it might happen tomorrow, but Rutherford apparently thinks he's got time.

So, I mean, we'll see. Again, I know I could end up being wrong on this. I know I could end up being wrong, but there were no negotiations with Miller, and then, bop, something happened. So, I could be totally wrong, but I still wonder about that, even though I can't imagine the players too thrilled with all this. Right.

One follow-up as well on a story that just started to pick up on again. It sounds like Rachel Dory has filed a complaint against the Vancouver Canucks. She was let go in September. This was shortly after Bruce Boudreau announced that she was joining his staff. We'll see where this one goes. No details available right now. And that's it. Hope you enjoyed the podcast today.

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