40 Minutes In The Old Testament - 40 Minutes In The Old Testament: Episode 48

Episode Date: May 18, 2016

Chad and Daniel talk about what Joseph's brothers decided to do to him and how it pre-figures Christ along with some stories about how brothers treat each other....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 welcome back to another episode of 40 minutes in the old testament i am daniel emmy price i am joined solo today by chad bird chad how's it going the birds flying solo well with you it's good it's good i don't count yeah well just two of us today i guess brandon is under the weather so we're just going to have to handle this on our own you me and joseph is 11 brothers yeah there's a there's a whole passel of us today and what a mess we have good grief things are about to get uh interesting with with our with our pal joseph yes they are his life is about to take a uh and a rather unexpected turn from what he's experienced the first 17 years of his life yeah yeah so so which uh chapter and verse are we in well we just we started chapter
Starting point is 00:01:15 37 last time which is the beginning of this this uh extensive narrative that mainly focuses on on joseph we're gonna we're gonna switch in the next chapter back to judah but besides that pretty much the rest of genesis in one way or another is is about joseph so we started it last time we got about halfway through uh i guess we're just around verse uh 18 so we we covered about half the chapter last time and up to this point what's happened with joseph well first of all he is uh he's the he's the favorite son because he is the he's the the firstborn son of uh of jacob's favorite wife of of his four wives he's the the son of jacob's old age and jacob makes no bones whatsoever about the fact that joseph's his favorite he loves him more than all the other
Starting point is 00:02:08 brothers and to show that he gives him this uh this multi-colored tunic or this long robe or coat of many colors whatever you want to call it uh that that says to everybody who sees joseph wearing this oh look it's jacob's favorite son now of course uh this causes great uh anger and jealousy and even hatred not just anger jealous of even hatred uh by his brothers who uh like their moms are not loved as much by Jacob as they wish. And to make matters worse, as we talked about in the first half of this chapter, Joseph has these dreams in which not only his brothers, but his mom and his father bow down to him. And he makes the mistake of telling them about these dreams, which just increases the hatred of his brothers against him all the more.
Starting point is 00:03:03 and then we kind of finished off last time talking about how uh his brothers are a few days south of where jacob and the rest of the clan are are uh are living and so uh quite foolishly jacob sends joseph to check on them i don't know what he was thinking you know ordinarily jacob's a pretty smart guy but he's making all sorts of stupid mistakes in this chapter But when I say smart, I mean, he acts in a way that is beneficiary in which he is the beneficiary of the actions. But this time he's just he's making all kinds of foolish decisions. And the foolish decision he makes is to send Joseph down to check on his brothers. So that's where Joseph is kind of where we left off.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Joseph gets lost along the way and he finds this man. We assume it's a man could have been an angel. who knows but this man who directs him back to where his his brothers are so that's kind of a recap uh that takes us through the verse verse 17 of of the chapter and we'll pick it up here with 18 which is really where uh the action uh gets uh gets kind of crazy and we have uh we have three different possibilities of what might happen to joseph depending on which brother or group of brothers should talk to. So, here's how it starts. It says, when they, that is the brothers, when they saw Joseph from a distance, and before he came close to them, they plotted against him
Starting point is 00:04:35 to put him to death. So, things have escalated quickly, as we say. not they've gone from from hating him not being able to even even act like they're friendly toward him to now they want to they want to put him to death it's basically another it's another cain and abel scenario uh cain was jealous of abel so he rose up against him and killed him in the field kind of out in the middle of nowhere and the same thing's about to happen here to joseph at least if the brothers if the brothers have their way now what we're not told right away is that probably the reason the brothers saw him at a distance was because he was wearing this neon sign that blinked,
Starting point is 00:05:26 I am the father's favorite, as he was coming up to them. So the brothers are looking at a distance, and they see a guy coming, and it's obvious that it's Joseph because he's wearing his coat of many colors. I mean, this would be like waving a red flag in front of a bull. This is not a wise decision on Joseph's part. It's not like he had to wear that coat, but he does. And he gets the reaction that you might expect. So we know that at least, let's say, eight of the brothers want to kill him.
Starting point is 00:06:03 So the majority opinion is they want to put him to death. And then they add this afterward. They say one another. here comes this dreamer now then come and let's kill him and throw him into one of the pits and we'll say a wild beast devoured him then let us see what will become of his dreams so uh i mean i i i guess it's the it's the dreams that's really the uh the uh the unhealed wound on these brothers that's really what gets to them that was kind of the acne i guess of everything going on it It was bad enough that Joseph was a favorite and that Jacob loved him,
Starting point is 00:06:42 but now he has these dreams in which he rubs salt into their wounds. So that's their plan. The brothers want to take care of this once and for all. It makes sense that they're irritated by him being their father's favorite and they don't like Joseph because of that. But that's not entirely Joseph's fault. walking in all cocky with your dreams well that's that's a whole different thing right yeah that's that's a whole different ball game that's right that's another level
Starting point is 00:07:17 and so uh if he was like this awesome dude who you know i don't know he was dad's favorite but he wasn't a snitch yeah he's one of those people that it's hard not to like anyway right right we You're like, well, I mean, Joseph's pretty awesome. So, I mean, I get it. He's so nice and, you know, just wanting the best for everyone. And who wouldn't like him? No, he's more, he's not, it's not really like that. It's more like his dad's favorite.
Starting point is 00:07:50 And now he's just like rocking that coat 24-7. And now he's telling us about his dreams where we like fall down and worship him. And yeah, all right. and on top of all that like right before he does all that stuff like he totally snitched us out to dad oh yeah i forgot to mention that detail yeah he brought back a bad report about his brothers he's gone past the three strikes you know he's on to like five or six by now and his brothers aren't the kind of dudes that won't uh you know talk you into getting circumcised and then kill you while you're healing i mean these are not guys to mess with
Starting point is 00:08:33 yeah i mean simeon and levi who would have been among these brothers that uh that plotted to kill him they had they had they already had the taste of blood they'd wiped out a whole city i mean not just one man but a whole city had wiped out with their with their swords after after the daughter after their sister was was kidnapped and raped yeah yeah yeah you know you don't mess with these guys yeah the way these guys get even is documented yeah they have a they have a track record already and uh joseph for all his wisdom later in life is uh still kind of has that teenage foolishness going on here i guess he's so he's so cocksure himself that he that he uh he doesn't see what's coming you know he's kind of the invincible teen right he'll be fine nothing's
Starting point is 00:09:22 going to happen to him and evidently jacob is under the same delusion because he sends joseph down there to to check on his brothers but we have to do we have to say this at at least one of the brothers reuben quite unexpectedly uh reuben is uh is not in favor of this so uh reuben as we as we've heard before he's the firstborn he's the son of leah and um uh what we know about him is minimal, but we do know that as we talked, I think, a couple of episodes ago that Reuben tried to kind of exert
Starting point is 00:09:58 his own authority over his father by sleeping with his father's concubine after Rachel died. He slept with her maidservant, who was one of Jacob's co-wives. So that
Starting point is 00:10:14 is definitely going to come back to haunt Reuben, and probably already at this point has. So Reuben says, Reuben hears him talking, and it says he rescued him, that is Joseph, out of their hands. And he says, don't take his life, shed no blood. He says, throw him into this pit, I guess there was a pit close by, that's in the wilderness, but do not lay hands on him. Then we have kind of this parentheses where it says that he did this, that he might rescue him out of their hands to restore him to his father. So even though the majority of the brothers wanted just basically to murder Joseph, at least Reuben, for some reason, and I have a couple of suspicions as to why, decides that he wants to rescue Joseph.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Now, here's my two suspicions as to why. First of all, it could be that simply he is acting out of his duty as the oldest brother. He's the one who is supposed to be the protector of the group. And you see this later on in the story as well, where Reuben tries to put himself out as kind of the sacrificial lamb to his dad, saying that, you know, if anything happens, let his life be taken. So that could be one of the reasons. And another reason could be that he's trying to get back into the good graces of his father. Because, I mean, think of it this way.
Starting point is 00:11:46 If Reuben is able to rescue Joseph out of the hands of his brothers and to take him back to Jacob safe and sound, and to tell Jacob what his other brothers had been up to, hey, this is a chance to redeem himself, right? He's going to make himself look good in the eyes of his father, and maybe all the bad blood between them will be taken care of. so whatever the reason is uh that's what that's what ribbon's plan is and uh it doesn't work out so well but we'll get to back we'll get back to that in a minute joseph gets there when joseph reached his brothers they stripped joseph of his coat of coat of many colors and they took him and they threw him into the pit now the pit was empty without any water in it a little detail added there uh there were evidently these pits were uh were were used in in various places in the
Starting point is 00:12:39 wilderness to uh to store water they're basically a cistern it's like a uh it's like a big pot underground if you will it has a very narrow top and then it widens out as you go underneath the underneath the ground there they would uh ordinarily line them with uh with something which would prevent the loss of water so they were basically a cistern in which you kept maybe rainwater or something like this. This one, of course, was dry, and it worked as a perfect jail for Joseph while they tried to figure out what to do with him. We actually have one other case where a cistern like this was used as a jail cell because Jeremiah was, in chapter 38, Jeremiah was also placed in custody and lowered down into a cistern like this by those who had taken him
Starting point is 00:13:26 captive so uh that's where we find joseph he gets his tunic taken away he's seized and he's he's thrown into into the pit and then we have this then we have this detail added which uh maybe i brought this up last time which i've always found to be uh rather enlightening because as soon as it says that they threw in the pit the very next verse says then they sat down to eat a meal so you've got uh these brothers who have just turned on their own brother put him in a pit want to kill him are trying to figure out what they do but in no way does this affect their appetite they have a picnic near the pit yeah they're like they they put the picnic blankets down sit around have their lunch and even though it's not recorded here in uh in chapter
Starting point is 00:14:25 42 later on uh the brothers recall that joseph was pleading with them so it kind of gives a little bit more color to this scene i mean it's bad enough that joseph is in the pit but he's actually pleading with them so while their brother is uh begging for his life they are sitting around breaking breaking bread and trying to figure out what they're going to to do with them i mean as you go through the story the callousness of the brothers just uh hardens just more and more as you as as you proceed as you proceed through the story to where there's just this there's this the the capacity for humans of inhumanity is remarkable the the the the inability or the refusal rather to to show to show compassion
Starting point is 00:15:19 is really uh hardly knows any bounds and we see that in the case of the other brothers here now it's also there's also elements in this story which uh are are foreshadowings of what's going to come later because here we have the brothers who have all the power all the power over the life of joseph sitting around eating a meal while he is while he is separated from them in the bottom of a pit then in chapter 43 much later in the story everything is reversed because on the second trip that the brothers take to Egypt once more there is a meal and once more they are separated from Joseph except now Joseph is not in a pit but he's on the throne and it's not the brothers who hold the authority over the power of the life of Joseph
Starting point is 00:16:17 but it's Joseph who holds the power over their own lives. She kind of got these two meals that play off against each other and thus reveal the turning of the tables that happened in the life of Joseph, where before he's at the point of death, cut off from his brothers. in the end God exalts him so that he gives life to his brothers and it all it all culminates in in a meal in which a decision is made so here they are Joseph in a pit brothers eating and lo and behold lo and behold almost as if by divine intervention which of course it was It says they looked up, and behold, here comes a caravan of Ishmaelites.
Starting point is 00:17:15 They were coming down from Gilead. They had all these camels, and these camels had aromatic gum and balm and myrrh, and they were on their way to Egypt. Now, this is another one of those kind of parallels in the story of Joseph Because on the brothers' second trip down to Egypt, these are some of the same elements that they will carry themselves. These items that were used for bartering, for trade, as they went down into Egypt to purchase grain. So you got another kind of play in the story there. And maybe this is a stretch, but as I was looking at this this morning,
Starting point is 00:18:00 I couldn't help but make the connection there to the gifts of the wise men to Jesus, too. They bring him gold and frankincense and myrrh, and they bring this immediately before Jesus makes his own journey down into Egypt. Which, you know, the gold, the frankincense, and myrrh, I mean, that was the means by which Joseph and Mary were able to sustain themselves when they were when they were on their on their journey and it kind of puts into it puts into bold relief really the the fact that this this whole story of joseph could really be called the passion narrative of joseph or his uh his suffering and his death and his uh and his resurrection because throughout this story joseph is is a type or foreshadowing um of of the life of jesus it's like what you what you read in joseph's life is in black and white
Starting point is 00:19:01 and then it's colored in when you get to the life of the one whom he foreshadowed because in the life in the life of joseph you have the same things happening then in the life of jesus i mean he's betrayed by his brothers he's uh he's sold for the pieces of silver he's betrayed at a meal just as just as joseph was and and just as joseph goes down and then goes down and then finally goes down into the very pits of the the prison there in egypt so christ goes down and down and down until he finally is in the in the uh in the tomb after his own after his own crucifixion so luther in his commentary on the joseph story talks repeatedly about the crucifixion of joseph and about the resurrection of joseph and about the exaltation of joseph so he depicts this this
Starting point is 00:19:51 story in in christological terminology so that what we see in the life of joseph is as as we do in many cases in the old testament but we're shadowing what we see in the life of in the life of our lord yeah i mean so joseph is young and impetuous and and does um things that are probably not um not wise to say the least that that wind him up in this this situation where his brothers can't stand him and they're gonna want to kill him however it's sort of from this point on where like joseph's gonna pretty much crush it from here on out we're gonna we're gonna really struggle to figure out some like some places where joseph like is a real he's a real jerk Man, he's just a terrible guy.
Starting point is 00:20:41 He's going to pretty much do right. Yeah, he's pretty much squeaky clean after this. Well, maybe when he talks, deceives his brothers. But anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. You're right. And so you're going to have this type of Christ even kind of go on there where he does the right thing with Potiphar's wife and gets punished for it, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:06 and uh hooks up the cupbearer or whatever you know and then like gets forgotten yeah right and so like yeah you'll see you'll see this this play out where uh joseph is uh he's pretty righteous as far as egypt goes joseph is pretty righteous and uh he is treated pretty crappy a lot a lot of the time and he also gets rewarded a lot of the time too you see his his resurrection as it were Yeah, I think of all biblical characters, well, in Genesis for sure, he is one of those who really is kind of living this kind of theology of the cross sort of life, which is completely Christ-like in nature in that no good deed goes unpunished with him. it's like every every every good thing that he does ends up with uh with some sort of punishment until finally he is exalted to the right hand of right hand of favor but yeah this this is a turning point and uh it seems like after this he kind of loses that uh that youthful uh big-headedness
Starting point is 00:22:22 that uh he exhibited with his brothers early on and i mean by the end of the story uh he's a he's very different because he doesn't throw dreams in their face instead he throws absolution at them he forgives them and does not seek in any way to punish them even though he held all authority to do so but by that point in his life he had come to realize that the reason all of this happened to him was that it was it was part of god's plan to uh provide physical protection physical life physical salvation for uh egypt as well as for jacob and his and his family so uh kind of getting back to the story uh we'll see what happens next so they see these band of ishmaelites who are coming and uh and then we kind of have the third option i mentioned
Starting point is 00:23:18 three options earlier so most of the brothers wanted to kill him ruben steps in he had he has the authority the firstborn he says no no no that's not we're not what we're going to do this just put him in a pit and then ruben ruben evidently by this point is somewhere else as we're going to discover in a moment he's not with the brothers at this at this moment maybe he's gone back to check on the sheep we really don't know but he's not with everyone else as the following events uh transpire so here comes the third option so reuben wants to save him most of the brothers want to kill them and then judah steps up and i believe i could be wrong here i believe these are the first recorded words of judah judah said to his brothers after they saw
Starting point is 00:24:08 these this this uh care of animation lights he says what profit is it for us to kill our brother and cover up his blood come and let's sell him to the ishmaelites and not lay our hands on him for he is our brother and our flesh and his brothers listen to him now i as i've said before i am so glad that i did not live in bible times because because not only would my actions be recorded many of which are are are not things that i want preserved for uh for all generations but my words would be as well so judah's first recorded words are hey we're not gonna make any money if we kill our brother let's just sell him he is our brother after all he is our brother after all i mean we can talk we can kill him let's just just go into these midianite israelite
Starting point is 00:25:01 traders make our uh make our 20 shekels of silver it's a weird it's a weird thing i mean the reasoning of the sinful mind is not rational. It doesn't make any sense. Man, this is our brother. We can't do anything that's really bad, so let's just do something that's bad.
Starting point is 00:25:22 It starts off with this reasoning. Hey, if we kill him, we don't make any money. He is our brother. After all. It's this weird thing where it's like, are you saying that like that you shouldn't kill him because he's your brother or are you it almost sounds like
Starting point is 00:25:41 he's saying hey uh we can make some money off this guy if we sell him and uh that would be a merciful thing to do yes he's he is our brother after all maybe maybe we should have maybe we should have mercy on him and just sell him into slavery yeah the mercy of the old adam is not very merciful no it's not this is a great case of where a person tries to choose between the lesser of two evils but it just underlines the fact that he still chose an evil there is a third option you know yeah there's a third option how about how about stand up with your brother ruben and say listen it doesn't matter how much we hate him it doesn't matter you know how much he's angered us by by telling us his dreams he's our brother and so pull him out of the pit
Starting point is 00:26:35 and give him a good talking to but hey you know we're brothers we we love we forgive we reconcile and we may not always get along but uh we're not going to kill each other we're not going to sell each other into slavery we're not going to destroy each other's lives and the lives of our father and the rest of our of our family i mean putting your little brother in a pit while you eat lunch like that's something i can see myself doing yeah yeah brothers yeah you can see brothers doing something like that it's like hey you just stay down there and then i mean even telling you like i was leaving you down there i'm just gonna leave you down there i'm gonna close you i'm gonna put you in the closet and lock the door as soon as i finish this sandwich i'm out of here and
Starting point is 00:27:16 you're staying down there just freak him out and then yeah you know but but you go get him after afterwards yeah he is your brother after all oh so it reminds me this is totally irrelevant but this is this is what maybe some of the listeners don't have brothers this is how brothers do me and my brother who's a is a year younger than me uh we used to go we used to go out in the woods and play all the time well when uh we were like 12 and 13 we have i might i have another brother who's five years younger than that and so he was um about i don't know eight at the time and my mom was like you take your brother with you you and of course you didn't want to no we don't want to say take josiah with
Starting point is 00:28:09 you and we're like oh man so uh so and he was mom and dad's favorite for sure but anyway uh so we so we took him out there and we told him this long story about how we were hunting this massive wolf named named sharp bang and we were like and uh scared the kid to death yeah we're like we're hunting him and it's like and he's and he's it's crazy and so like and he's like okay all right so he's with us and once we got like him all convinced about this this thing that we were out there to do we ran and left him and left him there and then we and then we circled back around and just made sounds and just watched him freak out like that's perfect that yeah that's what brothers do right like mom you said to play with our brother
Starting point is 00:29:05 that's that's exactly what we did there's all sorts of play we played with him good real good so yeah i get like yeah you can throw your little brother in a pit eat a sandwich while he's down there tell him that you know a wolf's gonna come eat him i don't know but uh but by the way we did not leave him out there yeah yeah he is our brother after all yeah you didn't go find the meanest dog in the neighborhood and stick him on your brother right there are lines that even brothers are not supposed to cross so so joseph's brothers evidently did not did not know about those lines so they they do what they do uh they listen to the listen to judah and uh they they pull them out of the pit it says midianite traders or ishmaelite traders uh in later parts of
Starting point is 00:29:54 scripture these are synonymous so no big deal about who these people are midianites has been lights they're all all part of the same group of people so they pull them up lift joseph out of the pit and they sell them to the ishmaelites for 20 shekels of silver thus they brought joseph into egypt so 20 shekels of silver a shekel by the way is not a coin uh later it was but at this time a shekel is just a unit of weight so however much 20 shekels was kind of the british pound i mean it's a it's a term of a measurement so 20 seconds of silver and we know from leviticus uh for instance that 20 seconds of silver was the going price for uh for a male a male servant a male slave at this time so more or less they are not only selling him into slavery their own brother
Starting point is 00:30:42 but they're selling him for the same amount that they would get for uh for a slave which uh you know which which is a further insult it's not like you know they even said to themselves you know what We should at least ask a higher price for since he is our brother after all. But they they treat him like he's he's nothing but a nothing but a slave to them. So that's the way it goes down. Now, I was just thinking to this this morning. And and again, maybe maybe it's just one of those coincidences. But isn't it interesting that. The person who was behind this, the person who was behind the idea of selling out their brother. for 20 shekels of silver was named Judah, and the person who was responsible for selling
Starting point is 00:31:31 out his brother Jesus for 30 pieces of silver was also named Judah, because Judas, that name Judas Iscariot is nothing but the Greek form of the Hebrew name Judah. So in both cases you've got the guy with the same name who comes up with a plan to make some money off the selling of uh off the betrayal of a brother that that's really interesting and the one that ends up receiving the the birthright yes he is exactly which is bizarre because uh jacob will say okay no i'm not going to give it to the oldest because uh you know he's he's he he hooked up with my co-wife so you're disqualified so he's not right he's not he's not righteous enough i'm not gonna give it to these next two dudes because you know they uh they were
Starting point is 00:32:29 shedding blood like crazy over at the old uh the whole rape a dinah thing so they're they're out i'll give it to judah he seems pretty upstanding righteous dude and it's like well i don't know i know if this is any better i don't know what standard you're using but yeah he's the dude that came up with the let's sell your your favorite son into slavery right and as we'll see in the next chapter too i mean the next chapter about judah and tamar tells us uh even more about what uh what kind of what kind of guy judah was see i mean jacob's criteria are are definitely i mean if they're like some kind of moral categories that uh that jacob has then he's got a weird system of morality that's for sure so incest is out uh you know
Starting point is 00:33:27 uh murdering is out but if you only sell your brother and then have incest with your your daughter-in-law, then that's fine. You're the guy for me. You're the guy for me. Yeah. But I mean, it is true that beginning here, this is the first part of it. Beginning here, Judah begins to emerge as the leader of his brothers. And, you know, they listen. It says, you know, they didn't do, they didn't kill him. So they did listen to Reuben. But really the one who convinces him as to what they should do is judah and uh as the story goes on ruben's leadership will basically disappear and judah's leadership will emerge because he's the one he's the one in fact that that jacob puts in charge of their return to egypt and uh the one who basically
Starting point is 00:34:24 is in charge of of the clan after that so it's like even before he gives the blessing in chapter 49 jacob has decided that judah is the one that he's going to pass on his uh his baton of leadership to but yeah it's a strange it's a strange reasoning in the mind of of jacob but jacob's kind of a strange guy so i guess maybe that's what we should expect so uh they took joseph down into egypt uh they is is uh is the traitors now uh we gotta we gotta back up a little bit here because reuben reenters the scene now so reuben as i mentioned earlier he wasn't around when all this uh this decision making was going on so he returns to the pit and uh looks in there and joseph's not in the pit and so he tears his garments and then he goes to his brothers and
Starting point is 00:35:13 says the boy is not there as for me where am i to go uh it's almost like he's talking to himself more or less like and joseph's lost uh now what's going to happen to me so it it seems to me like reuben is really clueless as to what actually happened right now maybe you know maybe you had a suspicion uh but if usually when you tear your garments that's a that's a symbol of mourning as as at the end of the chapter jacob's going to tear his garments when he when he assumes that Joseph is dead. So it's almost like Reuben's decided that they actually did go through with the killing. In fact, later on in the story, in chapter 42, Reuben talks about how he says something like, basically, we're being paid back for the blood of our brother. So it's almost like
Starting point is 00:36:06 he was convinced this whole time that they actually did kill Joseph. So that's what happens with Ruben, and then the story goes on. We're about to run out of time here, so we want to wrap this up. Here's what the brothers do. Their old Adam, by the way, is hard at work here. He is having a heyday. They've lied.
Starting point is 00:36:28 They've sold their brother. They've acted maliciously. It gets even worse now because they have to cover up their crime. They take the coat of many colors. They kill this male goat. They dip the tunic in the blood. Then they send it.
Starting point is 00:36:43 they don't go themselves but they send servants or someone with this bloody tunic and to take it to their father with this message that we found this please examine it to see whether it is your son's tunic or not now there's a bit of i can't call it humorous irony because this is really not funny but there is a bit of irony here because remember that it was it was through by means of uh of clothing and goat skin that jacob deceived his own father to get the blessing and now his own sons are using clothing and goat skin to this or and a goat to uh to deceive their father so uh he sees it and uh he says uh it's my son's tunic a wild beast has devoured him joseph has surely been torn to pieces. And he mourns for his son many days. It says his sons and his daughters
Starting point is 00:37:43 rose to comfort him, but he refused to be comforted. So it's really a, it's a terrible picture here of the brothers who are guilty of all this. They're lying. They see how much this has distressed their father. And it's almost like, you know, they're almost like they're enjoying this because they got what they wanted, right? And then they're lying to him, trying to comfort him, all while covering up what they've done. And here's the thing. They're going to hold out on this confession for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Yeah, yeah. It's going to be a skeleton in their closet for many, many years to come. and it doesn't go away in fact as soon as things go south when they get down into egypt the first thing that they say is this is happening to us because what we did to our brother joseph so it's like over time it began to eat on them like a cancer and they interpreted negative events in their life in light of what they'd done to joseph so later they regretted it to be sure uh and this guilt this guilt plagued them because of uh because of what they've done but behind all this to kind of wrap everything up behind all of this is is the unmentioned god uh god is not mentioned
Starting point is 00:39:11 in this chapter even though he's he's there throughout the whole story because uh he's the one who is guiding guiding these events it says that you know the servants the midianite traitors are the ones who brought joseph down into egypt but uh it really wasn't them because as joseph himself will say later, it was not you who sent me here, but God. So God is the one who's at work through all of this treachery, jealousy, hatred, pride, lying. He's at work beneath all of this sin. It's just like he's at work beneath everything going on in our lives in order to bring about the effect that he desires. So this is theology of the cross stuff. The hidden God, the God who works backwards from what we expect who when we see black he sees white when we see darkness he sees
Starting point is 00:40:02 light he's the one who works opposite to what we expect especially in our suffering and deprivation he hides himself so that in that hiddenness he can be at work to to do for us what he uh what he ultimately desires which in the case of this story is the salvation of egypt and all these lands and in our case it's it's our own salvation that he will bring out of our of our sufferings and our pain and everything else and our sins everything else uh our ultimate good which is the salvation of our of our souls and the resurrection of our bodies that is true and that is it very good very good my man well guys thanks for uh thanks for hanging out with us it was fun hey if you're interested in going to city events if you're in the new york city area or in the
Starting point is 00:40:51 dallas area we're coming to you new york city in june june 11th uh and then we will be in in dallas october 29th so if you are in either of those areas or can make it to either of those places uh you should definitely come out and uh and see us and you can find more information about that over at christoldfast.org and just go to city events and you'll see everything you need is right there all right thanks for hanging out we will see you next time Thanks for watching!

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