40 Minutes In The Old Testament - Episode 156 (Deuteronomy 1:24-46)
Episode Date: March 14, 2019Moses recounts the people's refusal to trust God when the report comes back from the promised land. A crazy accusation is made against God. Moses reminds the people how God has acted as a Father to th...em and carried them along. Why do we refuse to trust the promises of God? Why are we so forgetful of His faithfulness? Is it a good thing when God gives people what they want? Chad and Daniel discuss all of this. Have a listen! 1517 Podcast Network CHF City Events Become A Supporter
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Chad, what's going on, man?
I'm actually sitting here listening for the rain.
We're supposed to get like a flood this morning.
So I'm like,
I'm hoping it doesn't hit during the recording of the podcast and be like
drowning out my voice.
But so far the Lord has pushed it back.
Does this mean you're going to be driving around a truck in the rain today?
Yes,
it probably will.
Yeah.
It's one of the,
one of the joys of my vocation is getting to drive in the rain and watch
everyone act like they're,
you know,
trying to kill themselves or each other on the roadway driving like it's you know dry outside
when it's super wet and super dangerous yeah that's good we're already here man for uh episode
number two in deuteronomy yes sir yeah we uh we kick-started that last week uh delved into about
the first half of the chapter and we got some good stuff coming up here in the last half of
chapter two. We sort of got on the edge of that last time, and we're going to pick it up from
there. So the first part of this chapter is sort of a summary of what happened so far in the life
of the Israelites. There's going to be a lot of reminiscence in these first few chapters,
kind of a historical overview and we left off around verse uh 25 26 something like that
with moses recounting what had happened when they arrived at the edge of the holy land last time
and he says that they sent the the spies in there the 12 men and they brought back some of the fruit
of the land and brought back a report which said this is the end of verse 25 it is a good land
which the lord our god is about to give us so so far so good of course we've covered this material
back in numbers when it actually happened this is just a remembrance of that there's a little bit
of difference between these two reports nothing of nothing of substance just a few details that
change. So let's pick it up with verse 26 and see how the people reacted and then how God and
Moses responded. So verse 26, Deuteronomy 1. So after the spies bring back this good report of
the land, bring back not just a good report, they're not just like saying, yeah, it's a great
place, but actually bring back some of the fruit of the land so that they can see what an awesome
land full of good things that the lord is giving to them verse 26 yet you were not willing to go
up but rebelled against the command of the lord your god and grumbled in your tents and said
because the lord hates us he has brought us up out of the land of egypt to deliver us into the
hand of the amorites to destroy us and then they they go on well i'll go ahead and i'll read the
rest of what they had to say where can we go up our brethren have made our hearts melt saying the
people are bigger and taller than we. The cities are large and fortified to heaven. And besides,
we saw the sons of the Anakim there. Now, this is an amazing act of rebellion on the
part of the Israelites. Well, not so much the rebellion, but what they say.
So this would be like us transforming John 3.16, saying something like,
for god so hated the world that he gave his only begotten son because that's exactly in essence
what the what the israelites are saying they're saying that god saw them in egypt
and he was sitting in heaven and thinking okay what horrible terrible thing can i do to them
to show them how much i despise them oh i know i'll bring them out of slavery and i'll bring
them to the wilderness and i'll take them to this land and then i'm gonna let the amorites just
kill them that's what i'll do yeah and promise them good things all along the way but it's all
set up yes yeah it's like not only does he plan to kill them but they're saying that he lied to
them right he was just he was leading them on this whole time which of course is the one thing
and that uh you know scripture tells us that it's impossible for god to do they're like he did that
impossible thing just for us just yeah it's really uh i mean it's it's it's of all the things that
the israelites have said up to this point they've never gone quite this far and they have they have
said that the lord brought them or that moses brought them into the wilderness in order to
kill them they started saying that way back in the book of exodus so they attribute sinister
murderous motives to the lord as well as to moses but they've never gone so far as to say it's
because the lord hates us that he has done this to us but here they do and they go on and verse 28
the latter part of what they said where can we go up or that's literally what it says where can
we go up something like uh like there's no place for us right there's there's no place for us to
go to because the spies they call them our brethren as if to give them a little bit more
credibility you know these aren't just like people we hired uh to go out and spy the land out for us
these are our brothers are the people of our own flesh and blood so our brothers well they've made
our hearts melt saying the people are bigger than taller than we are the cities are large and
fortified to heaven. And besides all that, I mean, it's as if that weren't enough. We also
saw the sons of the Anakim there. So they just come up with a list of reasons to justify
their refusal to go up, as well as their attributing these hateful, murderous motives to
God. So first of all, he says, well, our hearts, we're no longer, we no longer have any kind of
hope any kind of courage because the report from the spies has made our hearts melt and this report
says that everything that we are facing is bigger than we are the cities are bigger than we are the
people are bigger than we are in fact they're so big that they're the sons of the giants so the
anakin we're going to talk more about those when we get to chapter two we've discussed discussed
than before, I think, back in Numbers. They're known by many different names. Here they're called
the Sons of Anakim. The Greek translation has it literal. It's the Sons of the Giants.
There were evidently in this particular area during this time many different peoples, or at
least many different individuals among these people who were of giant stature. We've already
talked about one of them. His name is Og, and we covered him back in the book of numbers. He's
going to come up again in chapter three. He's the guy with the iron bedstead that was 13 and a half
feet long and six feet wide. So that doesn't exactly tell us how tall he is, but if he needs
a bed that's 13 and a half feet long, then I assume he's a pretty big guy. And he wasn't the
only one because there's a reference to a number of these people of giant stature and we know that
they weren't all wiped out because some of them continued to like sort of moved over to the
coastal area right there by the mediterranean sea and settled in places like uh gaza because
the giant that david himself encountered goliath and he wasn't the only giant they were the
descendants of these on achim we hear i believe it's in chronicles where uh there's a list of
other battles that the israelites engaged in that david and his men engaged in with other philistines
and some of them like goliath had a brother who was also a giant so there's these aren't just you
know very isolated instances there's multiple reportings throughout the scriptures of people of
of giant stature and we were told the the height of goliath i can't remember if we're told the
height of any of the other of the giants but presumably they were pretty close to to the
goliath's stature so they were called anakim and and other other other names as well different
peoples called them called them different things but the the fact is that when the israelites saw
these giants and the giant cities that everything to them appeared as if it were insurmountable
so once they got to this point they were they were so afraid that they attributed all these
negative motives motives to god so uh what's gonna happen well verse 29 is when moses begins to
respond uh he says don't be shocked and don't fear them and then he begins to basically it's
sort of a sort of a creedal kind of rehearse rehearsal of what god has done for the israelites
just like in the creed we go over who god is and what he's done for us so moses goes over who god
is and especially what he's done for the israelites beginning at verse 30 he says the lord your god
who goes before you literally who walks before you so he's like the vanguard god is the one who
walks in front of the israelites he is he is the warrior for israel so that the lord who goes
before you who walks before you will him cite himself fight on your behalf just like he did
for you in egypt before your eyes and not only that but in the wilderness where you saw how the
Lord your God carried you, just as a man carries his son in all the way which you have walked until
you came to this place. But for all this, you did not trust the Lord your God. So Moses is
reminding the Israelites that they've been in this situation before, except they were
really in an even worse situation because there were fewer of them. They had just come out of
slaves for hundreds of years. The Egyptians were hot on their heels. And yet what happened? Well,
the Lord fought for them. He fought for them in freeing them from Egypt. He fought for them at
the Red Sea. And then he adds this image, which reminds the Israelites that they aren't just
sort of a possession of God, people that are now his slaves, as it were. He says that God
carried you like a father carries his son. Like if you have a little son, you know, you go out
for a walk, you go shopping or whatever, wherever you go, you go to the park. And after a while,
your kid gets tired, starts to complain. And so what do you do? Well, you reach down and you pick
him up and you carry him. That's what God did for Israel. He carried Israel like a father carries
his son, all the way through the wilderness, all the way to the place where they now are.
So Moses is trying everything that he can to convince Israel that everything's going to be
okay, because you not only have God, but you have God as your father, and your father is also a
warrior, so you have absolutely nothing to fear. And yet, despite this, verse 32, but for all this,
you did not trust the Lord your God who goes before you on your way to seek out a place for
you to encamp in fire by night and the cloud by day to show you the way in which you should go
yeah i mean it's a crazy thing to think that uh that god is like really intent on wiping you out
by these people so you you have the red sea incident and you're like look if god's intention
was just to you know kill all of you that seems like a as good a spot as any to get that done
why go through all this why hassle with you why why have to part the sea and then you know supply
mana and then you got you have fiery serpents and you gotta like save you from that you have
you have all these things like why would he be going out of his way to preserve your life all
of these years just like finally that my the real my real way of like taking them out is this
it just doesn't make any sense no it doesn't and and maybe maybe if if we draw nothing else from
this it is that there there's a resistance that the sinful heart has to every form of
of reasoning in every rehearsal of god's god saving acts when you you can't you can't convince
a sinner into the kingdom of god the only way that he's going to get there the only way that
she's going to get there is by the Lord creating trust in that heart in order to to make it happen
there's a there's a resistance that the old Adam has to every form of of reasoning every form of
argumentation every form of the display of God's grace and his his kindness toward us
and that's what Israel
Israel is like
an individualized embodied
old Adam here as they were
recalcitrant
refusing to
basically refusing to receive the gifts
that God was wanting to give them
I think we all do this
where you
I mean I've been faced with things before
where I'm like
and somehow believe like well this is it
God has finally abandoned me
It's going to be me and this insurmountable thing.
I quickly forget all my history, you know, and think this is it.
Like he's finally had it, and I'm facing this one alone.
Yeah, and I think that's why in the scriptures we have so many times history repeated,
whether it's sung in the Psalms or told or retold or retold for the thousandth time
is because this history of God's fidelity needs to be impressed upon us time and time again,
because time and time again, we forget it, especially when we face an obstacle.
You know, it's easy to believe that God is on your side.
It's easy to remember all the things he's done for us in the past when right now everything is going well.
But it's when we are on the brink of a land filled with giants that all of a sudden we get amnesia and we forget, oh, yeah, God has been taking care of me the last 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years.
There's something about the giant that we face, or the threat that we face, or the fear that we face, whatever it might be, that the immediacy of the threat of that somehow erases from our minds years upon years of God's faithfulness toward us, and all we can see is the threat and not the God who's right there beside us.
Yeah, I mean, you've never done that, right, Chad?
never no never i mean every single day as you've studied the old testament you know
right never happened to you i mean i'm like a hundred percent on board with this kind of stuff
yeah no i mean it it's like uh i was just telling a friend this morning actually uh on uh we're
messaging back and forth that uh yeah i mean like actually yesterday yesterday was like that i don't
I don't know why, it just, it hits me sometimes, and it's like everything I know, everything I
believe just somehow evaporates, it's gone, and in its place is anxiety, or fear, or lack of
confidence, or lack of faith, or whatever it might be, that void gets filled really quickly with all
sorts of bad stuff, and you know, then sometimes that lasts a day, sometimes it lasts longer,
But there's plenty of Israelite in me, just like there is in all of us.
And that's why we keep going back to stories like this, right?
I mean, it's the encouragement that we need to realize that God is still on our side,
despite the fact that we keep jumping to the other side.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's usually when you're faced with stuff, or sometimes it's just faced with just exhaustion.
But when you're faced with things that, yeah, indeed, by yourself, are terrible and unbeatable, right?
I mean, this happens.
You'd be faced with things that you're like, oh, well, this is going to kill me because there's no way for me to deal with this.
It's not to allegorize the text too much.
But, I mean, that's literally what's going on here is that these guys are faced with something and they're like, yeah, well, this is the end for us.
can't beat this this is too much for me i can't do it and then you you you do look at the thing
and if you believe in god it's almost as if you want god to spare you any difficulty as ever to
evidence that he is on your side as opposed to get you through difficulty like if you really love me
you would have me face nothing but because i have to face this thing clearly you're against me
yeah we want we want a helicopter god yes just hover over us and make sure that nothing difficult
comes our way that we don't face any any seemingly insurmountable circumstances make sure we never
get hurt never have to endure any kind of pain or or suffering and just basically make our earthly
like life like heaven and then everything will be good yeah if i could like just then and this
is the problem sometimes with you know the way that people talk about you know becoming christians
and stuff is sometimes you they do this thing where it sounds like all your problems go away
like you come to jesus and like you'll never face adversity again you know this is dangerous
because this is simply not true in fact the opposite is true yeah now you have a now you
have a bullseye on your back and the demons are taking aim because yeah now you have definitely
become part of their enemy camp so it doesn't mean everything's going to get better in fact
and sometimes and very often means that they will get get more difficult but jesus did say
something about taking up your cross and following him something like that he did
all right back to the text what happens well i should i should guess the lord's not very happy
about this the lord heard the sound of your words and he was angry and he took an oath so this is
like the exact opposite of what happens earlier because earlier see if i can find that oh yes
verse 8 so god places the land before them he says go into position because the land the lord
swore to give to your fathers. That same language in Hebrew is now used here, except
God is swearing that these people are not going to inherit the land. So there's a switch that
takes place because of their rebellion, because they said God hated them, because they wouldn't
believe. Then they are not going to enter into this rest, as the Psalms put it. In fact, he says,
i'm going to give you exactly what you wanted back in the book of numbers they had said oh that we
had died in the wilderness i believe that's numbers 14 when this same same scenario i mean
this is what this is what they said back in numbers 13 and 14 when they were at the situation
that moses is now describing they said oh that we had died in the wilderness so as god often does he
as he when he disciplines us he gives us exactly what we want so he says oh you wanted to die in
the wilderness okay go die in the wilderness that's what that's that's what you want that's
what i'm going to give to you so very often the uh the anger of god is expressed in the scriptures
by giving to people that which they desire which is which is a pretty scary thing uh but when you
know what sinners desire you realize how that is a is a terrible punishment a discipline to bear
when we're given exactly what we want so that's what the israelites wanted they said oh let's
just go back to the wilderness we'd rather die there so that's what god says okay well that's
what's going to happen you're going to go back to the wilderness and you were worried about your
children and so what's going to happen is your children are going to live and they are going to
enter into the land but you yourselves are going to die in the wilderness all except for caleb
and joshua caleb says because he followed me fully he was one of the spies remember who who
not only brought back a good report but actually said yes the lord is on our side he will fight
for us we should go in and possess the land he and of course joshua were were the only two
exceptions the other 10 joined with the rest of the israelites and bemoaning their situation and
saying, yeah, we're all going to die.
And it was kind of an interesting addition here.
Moses throws this in right in the middle of this discussion.
Verse 37, he says,
The Lord was angry with me also on your account, saying,
Not even you shall enter there.
Now, I was looking at this this morning quite a bit, and I can't quite figure it out.
I looked at some commentaries as well.
Now, we know that later the incident with the striking of the rock was where God told Moses, because you didn't treat me as holy in your sight, therefore you are not going into the promised land.
I guess the only thing I can figure out is this is Moses' way of alluding to that.
But three times in Deuteronomy, here in 3.26 and in 4.21, he uses the exact same language.
He says, the Lord was angry with me on your account.
So he attributes the reason for him not entering the promised land to the Israelites.
Now, that doesn't quite completely mesh with what we saw in the book of Numbers for Moses' rebellion.
So I don't know if this is something else or if it's almost a case where the sins of the Israelites also,
So because Moses was so connected with the Israelites that their rebellion, as it were, seeped into him as well.
And so he had to bear the effects of that also.
That's one possibility.
Or it could be his kind of oblique way of referring to his rebellion at the rock.
But however you want to take this about the Lord being angry with him on the account of the Israelites, three times Moses attributes his reason for not entering the promised land to the rebelling of the Israelites.
I don't know if you have any insight.
I just think that's the humanness of Moses.
That's like the devil made me do it kind of stuff right there.
Like, I mean, you know, and there's some truth to it, of course.
I mean, like, well, if you get rid of these people, I probably wouldn't have lost my temper.
Well, that's probably true.
But, you know.
I wonder how many pastors have said that in their congregations.
Well, it's sort of like if you remove the person I sin against, I probably wouldn't have sinned.
You know, and you're like, well, yeah, that's kind of how that works, but it's still your sin.
Yeah, I think we might not say something like this, but I suspect quite often, you know, if it weren't for my co-workers or if it weren't for my family, you know, if it weren't for my friends, then everything would be good.
We do have a way of always deflecting the guilt onto someone else.
Well, I mean, this is just Moses, like, you know, tapping into his ancient grandfather, you know.
And so Adam says, that's the woman you gave me.
Moses says, it's the stinking people you gave me.
You know, that's what the problem is here.
Yeah, I think you're probably onto something there.
So three times Moses does say that.
And, well, we know the end effect of that.
In fact, later on we're going to see that he even begs God to let him go in.
But God still says, no, no, you're going to die outside the promised land.
Yeah, and I know we've talked about this, but I think what is, obviously sinners are going to go in.
It's not like as though all the super righteous people go in, and Moses, who's just so terribly unrighteous, can't.
That's not what's going on here.
I think what you have is God never intended to let Moses go in because of what Moses represents, and that being the law.
And so no amount of begging or pleading.
I mean, Moses is going to inherit the true promised land.
I mean, obviously, he is going to be in glory.
He appears with Christ on the Mount of Transfiguration.
I mean, we don't have to worry about the eternal fate of Moses.
But as a type and shadow, and Moses has the law and the promised land as the kingdom of God,
in the new heavens and new earth uh no he can't go there he's he's not going to be allowed to
enter there because uh god is trying to paint a picture that says that shows that the law can't
get you in there it's got to be joshua yes yeah it's got to be uh got to be jesus and uh it goes
on to say that joshua will be the one who will will lead them into into that land now at the end
of the chapter we have something fascinating i've actually been thinking about this for two weeks
trying to distill this down into exactly what this represents theologically
and how it applies to actually what still happens in our day-to-day lives.
So here's the way the chapter ends.
I think this is fascinating on a number of different levels,
psychologically and theologically and uh some some other ways as well so let me just tell you
what happened we'll talk about it so they uh after they hear this uh it kind of ends verse 40 god
says as for you turn around and march for the wilderness by the way the red sea uh that is
that is by the way in hebrew that's turn around and set out exact same hebrew that's used back
in verse 7, where God says, turn around and set out for the Holy Land. And now God says, turn
around and set out for the wilderness. In other words, put it in reverse and go back where you
came from. So what happens? Well, verse 41 and following, they said, oh, we've sinned against
the Lord. We've changed our mind. We will go up and fight just as the Lord commanded us. And so
all the men of war, they put on their weapons and they regarded it as easy to go up into the
hill country. And God warns them. He says, verse 42, say to them, don't go up nor fight because I
am not among you, lest you be defeated before your enemies. So verse 43, Moses passes this on.
He says, you would not listen. Instead, you rebelled against the command of the Lord and
acted presumptuously and went up to the hill country.
And what happened?
Well, the Amorites, they came down and they chased you like a bunch of bees
and crushed you from Seir to Hormah.
Then they returned and they wept before the Lord,
but the Lord did not listen to their voice nor give ear to them.
So what I find fascinating about this is,
so they're they're at the edge of the promised land and god tells them i will be with you i'm
going to fight for you i'll do for you what i've been doing for you for for all this time that i
brought you out of land of egypt and when that's the situation they're like no no i i know you're
offering us a gift but we're not going to take it and then the minute that god says okay turn
around and go back to the wilderness. Then all of a sudden they think they can do it and they
change their mind, even though they're told that God is not among them. They're like, oh, well,
we're still going to do it. It's going to be easy. So what before with God's promise
was deemed impossible. No way we're going to die. Now, all of a sudden, when God says I'm not with
you and commanded them to do the exact opposite then they decide oh yeah we can take care of this
no problem we're going to go into the whole country and we're going to be able to conquer
the enemies easily no problem whatsoever and of course they get the butts kicked they got chased
away like bees and then they return and weep to god and he basically says i'm not listening to
right now because you did the exact opposite of what i what i commanded now so i i'd love to love
to hear your thoughts on this uh like i said i've been thinking about this the last uh last couple
weeks and to me it boils down to this that there is that once that once we refuse the free gift of
God, that is to say, once we refuse to trust that the Lord is true to his word, he's true to his
promises, if we refuse to believe that, then what we're going to do instead is try, on the basis of
our own strength, of our own deeds, of our own prowess, of our own wisdom, our own whatever,
to accomplish it, as if to show God that we can take care of this ourselves.
Yeah, this seems like it's all defiance of God, and whatever it is that God says, we're going to do the opposite.
So if it's go in there, then it's, no, we're not doing that.
If it's don't go in there, well, then that's what we're doing, and this is how we work with God.
And I think that there's something going on there where it sounds as though they don't want the land, right?
So it's sort of like everybody would like heaven.
They'd just like it without God.
And so, you know, we're fine with trying to obtain the things that God has promised.
We just don't want to obtain them through his promise.
We want to obtain them through our own doing.
That's perfect.
Yeah.
What you just said is perfect.
Rather than obtaining them through the promises of God, then we want to do it on our own.
I mean, it's kind of like God says, on the cross, Christ has atoned for your sins, every single one.
And we say, I'm not so sure about that.
I don't know if that's going to be enough to take care of all the bad stuff that I've done.
I don't know if that's enough to get me to heaven.
And so we basically, rather than believing that God came down to us on the cross in order to atone for our sins,
we disassemble the cross and transform it into a ladder by which we try and climb up
into heaven on our own efforts. This is the psychology of the sinner, right? Rather than
accepting the free gift, we think that we need in some way to earn it by to prove to God that
we can take care of this, to prove to God that he should accept us on the basis of our
of our penitence of our acts of atonement of our whatever whatever you want to do
and as we can see in the case of the israelites it has the exact opposite effect because it's just
basically us saying to the giver no we don't want your gift we don't want you to be our father we'd
rather you be our boss someone that we have to prove our worth to rather than someone who loves
us unconditionally yeah i think that's exactly right and and something that we all do i mean
this is like ingrained in human nature that and that we would try to oh we just can't we can't
wrap our heads around we can't wrap our heads around something being free especially if it's
worth something because when something is free we we immediately think that it has no value right
So this is the problem with grace, is that people devalue grace because things that are free can't be valuable.
And so if God's like, I'm just going to give this to you, you're like, well, it must not be worth very much.
But if you have to go out there and earn it yourself, well, then that's very different.
Yeah, that does seem to be the mindset of the Israelites here.
You're right.
I mean, they want the land now.
it's almost as if they want it more now when it's taken away from them than they wanted it before
as as a gift and and it backfires i mean it's kind of like uh they refuse to believe the gospel
they refuse to believe the gift and then when god gave them the law then they rebelled against that
too so it's on on both fronts refusing to believe the gospel and refusing to to heed the law and we
see the we see the ill effects of this now this uh kind of wrap up wrap up uh this this particular
chapter with a brief summary of how the new testament appropriates this and you can check
this out on your own look at hebrews chapter four sometime and you can see how the author there was
basically using this particular incident in the life of the israelites to relate it to to the
church that that he was writing to in in hebrews 4 he says that we indeed we have had the gospel
preached to us just as they he's talking about the israelites just as they did but the word they
heard did not profit them because it was not united by faith in those who heard it and then
he goes on to talk about how the israelites didn't enter into the rest of god because they because
they didn't believe now what's fascinating about that is he says that we have heard the gospel
preached to us, just like the Israelites heard the gospel preached to them. The gospel, the good news
he's talking about there, is the promise of entering into the rest and entering into the
Holy Land, and yet they refuse to do that. And then he goes on to talk about how there is a rest
that remains for the people of God, and that rest is found in Christ himself. So all of this,
this whole chapter, is, as it were, a preparation for us to understand exactly what is happening in
the messiah because the israelites even the ones who did enter into the promised land they weren't
entering into the ultimate and final rest they were entering into a foreshadowing that because
joshua gave them the promised land but even even then another rest remains for the people of god
and that rest is finally found in in the messiah who brings us into into a new kind of promised
land of course which is which is his body his he is the embodiment of the kingdom of god and so in
him we finally get that rest of which all of this was a was a foreshadowing yeah so it's a good thing
that this is happening because now you know definitively that me and chad are not making up
the fact that uh that this the promised land is the rest of god it's the promises of god this is
why moses can't get you there because this is a type of shadow of what you get for believing the
gospel not what you get for obeying the law uh this is yeah we didn't come up with that the
author of hebrews is firmly on our side yeah and because it is the rest um and because it's you
know the author of hebrews says this is this is a shadow of the promise of this land is a shadow of
believing the gospel uh yeah this is why this is why we come to this conclusion about moses and
the law and that is gonna have to do it for us chad that is it that is it guys if you want to
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