40 Minutes In The Old Testament - Episode 174 (Deuteronomy 21:10-22:12)

Episode Date: July 18, 2019

Chad and Daniel have to deal with a bunch of odd things in this episode. What if someone wants to marry a captive woman? How does inheritance work when you have sons from multiple wives? How bad does a son have to be before he is stoned? What do we do with strange laws and how does a body hanging from a tree help us understand? Have a listen! 1517 Podcast Network HWSS Conference Donate

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clothes how's that sound for a lead-in hey you know what these are everyday issues that we need to we need to get answers to i know there's a lot of guys wondering what they should do about you know whether they should marry the captive that they have so it's a pressing concern it is i'm glad that god has some very clear instructions on this yeah so we're we are in the middle of chapter 21 of deuteronomy and there is i mean this the rest of this chapter chapter 22 chapter 23 i mean we've got a lot of stuff that is uh is interesting uh from you know just kind of a biblical perspective uh and i mean it's got some it's got some new testament connections too which we'll uh we'll bring up later in this chapter uh but it when i was looking through this preparing

for the podcast i kept saying to myself you know this you really have to you just got to put yourself in a completely different place where you're at in the world you're not living in this culture yeah well i think it's passages like passages like this that remind you that the bible is written in a different time and place uh and you know some people say like every word of the bible is relevant today it's not all equally relevant we'll put it that way uh there are there are things in in the bible where where you are like okay that's that it's tough to find a place in modern life where this is applicable um and it reminds you that this is just different and it's speaking to a different culture now there's obviously loads and loads of stuff that's very

applicable and very relevant um but it's not all equally applicable and relevant yeah i think we can i mean we can draw out kind of general truths from these specific examples and see some applicability there, you know, like do nice things for your neighbor and treat people well and those sorts of things. I mean, those are sort of the, the love of your neighbors yourself, of course, is undergirding all these laws.

So that remains everlastingly applicable. But these specific examples, yeah, I mean, these are things that we're just not going to encounter. But for the Israelites, this was, you know, this these weren't like occasional incidents that might happen this is stuff that was a very realistic possibility yeah like starting out in verse 10 like so you know you're a soldier and uh you go off to war and what happens in war well if you conquer a city at least a city outside the the holy land then typically all the all the guys all the enemy guys are put to death

but you take captive the women and children well what are you going to do with them and the situation that's presented here in deuteronomy 21 10 through 14 is all right you uh you've conquered a city uh and you're you know you're bringing back the the women and the children the captives and lo and behold you you see one of these women and she's super attractive and you say to yourself, well, I, you know, rather than making her into a servant, I think I'm just going to marry her. Yeah. This is, you put yourself back in that situation and yeah, you could definitely see that happening, right? What do you do in that situation? So this is one of these examples where, and the Bible does this a lot, like it takes existing

practices and rather than simply forbidding them, what it will often do is just kind of place boundaries around those existing practices. We saw this in the case of the asylum cities, right? It doesn't forbid a surviving relative from seeking revenge against someone who either accidentally or purposely killed his brother or his father, whoever. It doesn't forbid that cultural practice, but it does place limits on it. And it's kind of the situation here so you get this soldier he sees this beautiful woman among the captives and he decides that he wants to make her his wife so what do you do in that situation well according to deuteronomy 21 uh he's first he's got a after presumably after he gets her back to his community then uh she's

given one month of of mourning and what 30 days was a typical morning time for uh for the israelites We have examples of that in the scriptures. And during this time, it says that she shaves her head, she trims her nails, she takes off her clothing of captivity. So presumably somehow connected with morn rituals. And then after that time, then he can take her as his wife. And this happened all the time in the ancient world. This was not just like an Israelite thing.

We have plenty of examples from antiquity where things such as this happened. OK, so it kind of assumes that that's that is going to be something that that's going to go down. But here's the situation. So what happens if later on, you know, the attractiveness of her beauty, which, you know, lured him in to begin with, is not enough to sustain his interest. And he's like, he's not pleased with her anymore. He doesn't want her to be his wife anymore. Then what's he going to do with her? Well, verse 14 says that he basically has to liberate her. just to let her go but here's what he can't do he can't decide that because he doesn't like her now doesn't want to be married to anymore that he can turn around and sell her as a slave to someone it says that that is forbidden so he shall not mistreat her because he has humbled her so

that's the law it's to us yeah i mean i'm steeped in the in the old testament but i'm reading this this i'm like that's really strange but that's just the just the way it was yeah i mean there's no way and to read that in our society and not be like it's a little misogynistic like it doesn't seem like she has a lot of say and there's i'll be captive women it's just not so i mean there's no way around that and it is just dealing with the way that society was structured it's better that this is not a scenario that we have to deal with now and if we did see if we saw another country where this scenario was always happening we'd be like dude something's got to change over there like that's messed up that's messed up and so what it's doing is yeah it's great that you

can't sell someone seller to be a slave and all that kind of stuff and the reason you have to take the women is because they don't have any options like they're gonna all die that's part the misogyny of the culture is that what are you going to do you you can't go get a job over here or over there at the you know some other you know you can't go to med school or you know or whatever what are you going to do and so there's layers to the reasons that this is the way it is it's and it is good that that's no longer the way it is yeah yeah well put well put well so that's that's the first era we've we got some more coming up here too so all right see what we got next so verse 15 starts out with a kind of interesting phrase if a man has two wives so we we've

discussed this this uh this before the subject of polygamy so this is a case where notice it doesn't it doesn't say a man shall not have two wives or cursed be the man who has two wives it just says if a man has two wives because as we've seen multiple places in the old testament this was not uncommon whatsoever this seems very normal actually seems very normal yeah i mean you i think part of the issue we know the stories from like genesis so well that i think sometimes we just don't stop to think about how strange this is like abraham had more than one wife and jacob had more than one wife and we have of course all the kings had not just two or three but a whole lot of wives so polygamy was by no means unusual in the old testament and this is a one more case

where we just we got we got a situation here and the situation is not polygamy per se but it's okay you've got two wives and the situation is that one is loved and one is not well that ought to that ought to sound familiar of course that's jacob uh all over again because rachel he loves and and leah he he doesn't so if you got one loved and one unloved and the the firstborn son comes from the unloved wife and then later on other sons are born to the wife who's who's loved well the husband might be tempted to say you know what i i really love the uh i really love you know wife b more than wife a so what i'm going to do is i'm going to get my inheritance over to the firstborn son of wife b the one that i really love yeah this is this is something you could

totally see jacob doing it's all like where's like joseph and benjamin get all the stuff yeah knowing jacob yeah he'd be like in fact i sometimes wonder if this law was not given specifically with jacob in mind yeah yeah i mean you could yeah not just that but the wife herself could try and use her influence you know i i know i know that uh you know little eli over there is the firstborn but you know look at my little look at my little samuel you know he's he's a much better kid and you love me more and thus you love samuel more so why don't you give the inheritance to him because eli is probably just going to end up like his mother oh yeah yeah you know he's going to you get to see this these uh these pillow this pillow talk

going on right these conversations going on uh but so you say here's the rule because that is a very real possibility then the rule is nope that can't happen so whoever the firstborn is it doesn't matter which wife he comes from that firstborn is the firstborn will remain the firstborn and so he's gonna be the one who probably will inherit uh twice what the other the other sons will that's typical inheritance for uh for the firstborn so this is like this is trying to as much as it can put a barrier in the way of someone acting simply out of selfish interest instead of saying well well, you know what? God's gift was, God's action was giving us this particular firstborn son, and so he's the one who's the primogenitor, thus he's the one who's going to receive the

inheritance. That's the second situation, where you have a polygamous household, multiple sons, who's going to receive the inheritance? All right, now we're going to shift into even a bit more dicey territory next 18 and following this is i don't know that this ever happened in the life of israel maybe it did we don't have any instances actually recorded this happen but so this is another case uh where we're dealing with a son but this is a different situation because we have a stubborn rebellious son it says he won't obey his father his mother and uh they they like they discipline him it says they chastise him and no matter what they do he doesn't listen to him well it says if that's the case then mom and dad are supposed to take their

son and bring him out to the elders of the city at the gateway the hometown of course the the gateway the entrance of the city is that's that was like where court was held kind of unofficial or unofficial and official discussions and debates and hearings and judgments were made there at the gate of the city that was like the official place kind of like the courthouse i guess so they bring him there and they tell the elders this they say this son of ours is stubborn and rebellious he will not obey us he is a glutton and a drunkard which i think that's like uh sort of a like a saying like that that was that was how they used that was kind of language they used to describe a son who was like this so that's the way he is he won't obey us well verse 21 says then all

the men of the city shall stone him to death so you shall remove the evil from your midst and all israel shall hear of it and fear this is a hard one to wrap your mind around uh how do you deal with a stubborn rebellious son today well i mean i guess you do a lot of the same things that they would have done back then i mean you you you discipline him you straighten arrow and stop him from making disastrous decisions or from committing crimes or whatever it might be but you don't take him to the courthouse and say execute him no because he won't listen to us no it's not typically how that goes it doesn't work so it's a strange scenario but i was reading a luther's commentary on on deuteronomy uh on this particular section and i thought he had a good

point i mean this is as extreme as this is if nothing else this impresses upon us just how foundational for the life of israel the fourth commandment was to honor your father and your other i mean that really that is that's kind of the that's the foundational commandment for at least in the in the israelite sense of the law that's the foundational commandment for what we call the second table of law uh where we life with our with our neighbors so if you have a child who won't listen to his father and mother chances are he's he's going to be a menace to society because those are kind of that's the foundational family relationship that determines how the children are going to conduct themselves so yeah it seems that it seems that the idea here is that

you know if they come in they say look like we've tried all these things like he won't listen to us so you have this you have this son who uh is apparently going to be a problem for the entire community because i don't think this is talking about i mean when they say a glutton and a drunkard so we're not talking about like a five or six year old kid or something like that this seems like this is a teenager or something and um and apparently sounds like a teenager yeah sounds like a teenager totally does i'm sure that we'd all be like well i guess i would have got killed uh in israel but it seems that the idea here is that this is a someone who is not going who doesn't give a rip about you know what god has said doesn't care about how israel is to conduct

itself and they're like yeah he's going to be a problem going forward and so they just root it out and that's a crazy thing and it's difficult to get your mind your head around for sure it does also tell you that how serious god is about about the about sin too that we know and we've said before that the wages of sin is death and this is an example of well i said on your father and mother you don't and this is how this works it's not that we should go around then stoning our kids but it does tell us that the consequences of sin is death. And we know this ultimately at the cross. Now what's fascinating about this section

is how it segues into what's coming next. So kind of keep that in mind about a stubborn, rebellious son who's accused of being a glutton and a drunkard. So kind of keep that in the back of your mind. And then listen to, I'm just going to read these next two verses. This is chapter 21, verses 22 and 23. If a man has committed a sin worthy of death, and he is put to death, and you hang him on a tree, his corpse shall not hang all night on the tree, but you shall surely bury him

on the same day. For he who is hanged is accursed of God, so that you do not, that was in parentheses, he who is hanged is accursed of God, so that you do not defile your land, which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance. The reason this is fascinating is we transition from this discussion about this son who's stubborn, rebellious, glutton and a drunkard and put to death to, okay, how do you deal with a body, right? So you got this body that he's been, stoning was a typical way in which people were executed in Israel. So presumably he's been stoned, but as sometimes happen, and we have

cases like, we'll see these when we get to Joshua, where Joshua like executed some foreign kings and then hung up their bodies for part of a day and then buried them that same day in the evening so this was like a kind of a public display kind of deal uh they weren't like this was a crucifixion but this was a display of the the body on a tree on wood so if that happens he's he's executed and you put him up on this tree you hang him on a tree then you don't leave the corpse there all night you bury him the same day because the one who's hanged is accursed of god so what's fascinating again is when you look at this in the light of galatians right yeah because uh let me read you this section from galatians chapter three he uh this is 3 10 and following

paul is saying that as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse because it's written cursed is everyone who does not abide by all the things written in the book of the law to perform them okay now that no one is justified by the law by the law before god is evident because the righteous shall live by faith however the law is not a faith on the contrary he who practices them shall live by them and here's verse 13 this is the one that's key christ redeemed us from the curse of the law having become a curse for us for it is written cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree in order that in christ jesus the blessing of abraham might come to the gentiles so that we who receive the promise of the spirit through we might receive the promise of the spirit through

faith so paul's talking about how the ones who don't do the law are are under a curse because of course the law is constantly pronouncing a curse upon those who who break it and then he says christ for this reason christ became a curse for us and then of all the things he could have quoted he pulls this verse out of deuteronomy 21 that we just read and says for as it is written cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree it seems to me that what paul is doing here is he's reading not just that particular verse in deuteronomy 21 but he's reading that whole context so there's this talk of a stubborn rebellious son who's put to death accused of being a glutton and drunkard and then a body hung on a tree and that body is cursed by god hanging on that tree and

paul in this masterful exegesis he interprets this whole section in light of christ yeah yeah but it's it's when you when you look at exactly how paul does this kind of interpretation where he'll where he'll where he'll pull the old testament verse from and you look at the the whole context all of a sudden this whole this whole section has a as a completely new meaning for me because you can see how of course christ is accused of being a glutton and a drunkard right and he's accused of being rebellious and he is put to death uh even though he's a faithful and obedient son he's still put to death and then his body's hung on a tree and he's accursed of god and all of this in order that he might become the curse for us

in order that we might become, as Paul says, part of Abraham's offspring. Now we are like the sons and the daughters of Abraham. When you put all that together, it's just amazing to me just the way that Paul sees all of this as interconnected. Yeah, I mean, this whole chapter, you read it and you're like, man, this is pretty messed up. and is dealing with messed up things in the sense that like well this is going to happen because you're a bunch of sinners this is going to happen because you're a bunch of sinners and here's the

other thing that sinners do and like so here's all these situations and you're reading it and you're like well this is all horrible and it ends with this and then also you know cursed feet you know if someone's hung on a tree that person's cursed by God and yeah so I 100% think that Paul pulls that and says like you know that like messed up stuff like what you're going to need is someone to be cursed for all these things somebody to have all these things laid upon them because this whole section is full of just undesirable situations but none of this stuff is good yeah yeah well it's it's a it's a great example of just how necessary it is to when you're reading whatever in the old testament to read it always with one eye on christ yes or

One eye on Deuteronomy 21, one eye on Christ, because Paul shows us in one way or another, it all is going to come to its fulfillment in him. And this is a great example of that. So he becomes everything that we deserve. He becomes the curse, or as Paul says in 1 Corinthians, that he who knew no sin became sin for us. So however you want to say it, that he became a curse or he became sin for us, that's what's happening here. All of this just crazy, messed up stuff that's talked about in Deuteronomy and elsewhere, all of that evil and injustice finally is brought to its head in Christ, and it's because of him that we have hope, because in him we have the blessing, because he came to curse for us. yeah yeah deuteronomy 21 is it zooms in on a world that desperately needs redemption

and ends with a verse that paul quotes in conjunction with that redemption so that's i think that's kind of what's going on there yeah yeah saw some good stuff there uh when you see it in the end a lot in light of galatians okay well let's let's keep uh rocking along here we're at the end of 21 so we'll jump here into into 22 and the first uh four verses echo some of the material that we've seen elsewhere it's it's a concern basically for what's a double concern it's a concern for your neighbor but it's also a concern for for your neighbor's property in this case your neighbor's livestock so more or less if you know if it if you're outside and all of a sudden an ox or a or a sheep comes wondering about wondering up where

you find them when you're out in the field and you you know you wonder what to do with them well here's what you do well you you first of all if you know whose it is you return the property so finders keepers does not apply in the old testament it's not the way it works because you are to view your neighbor's property as your own responsibility in the sense that if if you lose something then you you take it back to him and it says that you know suppose you find an animal and you don't know whose it is well it says if that's the case you take it to your house and it stays with you until he comes looking for it and then you you give it back to him and he says not only does this apply to animals but it's the same thing like if he loses one of his garments or it loses anything

then you are to take care of it until he comes looking for it and you're not to basically turn a blind eye to to your neighbor's needs to your neighbor's property this is just a this is a specific illustration of love your neighbor as yourself so this is how do you love your neighbor well this is one example you return his lost property or you take care of his lost property until he comes he comes looking for it and if you if you see that maybe his ox or his donkey has fallen down under some burden then you help him raise it up so these are just like concrete specific examples of how you love your neighbor so love of course is not just some kind of emotion or some kind of wish but here love is incarnate in the sense that it's it's going to be

evident in the actions you show toward your toward your neighbor so i don't know if there's anything else to say about those four verses but that's the that's the way this opens up now the next uh i guess seven verses five yeah five through twelve deal with some there was some related things a lot of these are are uh are similar in in in nature in the sense they deal with not mixing up some of them anyway deal with not mixing up stuff that doesn't belong so verse five starts out with what i referenced at the beginning of the podcast a woman shall not wear man's clothing nor shall a man put on woman's clothing for whoever does these things is an abomination to the lord your god and i think the concern here well of course first of all you got

to this is another one of these where you got to put your back yourself back in that society where people did not dress similarly so if you saw a guy you you knew just from his clothing that was a guy if you saw a girl you knew from her clothing that was a girl so the basic basic idea here is that whatever god has created you to be and however you conduct yourself and however you dress yourself then that's a representation of who you are so don't try and don't try and masquerade yourself as something that god has not created you to be that's verse five verse six has a this is another one he's kind of concerned for not just your neighbor but the concern for your neighbor actually also involves also involves concern for creation itself so this is a this is

one of probably i don't know maybe three or four examples in the old testament where there's actually a concern for the proper treatment of animals which interestingly i don't know if we have this in christianity but in judaism there's a whole ethical system that revolves around the proper ethical treatment of animals i mean even down to how you should if you're like going to to butcher beef there's a certain way that you can that you're supposed to put the animal to death before the meat is taken from them. So this is one of these cases. So verse six says, if you happen to come upon a bird's nest in a tree or on the ground, and there's young ones or eggs, and the mother sitting on the young or on the eggs, you shall not take the mother with the

young. You should certainly let the mother go, but the young you may take for yourself in order that it may be well with you and that you may prolong your days. So there is this, we don't here i don't think i've ever heard anywhere in any sermon a kind of a reference to uh the proper treatment of animals but even though it's not a big deal in the bible it is there so animals are not to be treated simply as uh that we can do with them whatever the hell we want to i mean there is a concern even for uh for the proper treatment of animals in in the old testament and this is a this is one of those examples. There's, as I said, there's three or four others as well. Continues eight says, uh, when you build a house and all the houses back then had flat roofs and a lot of time

was spent up on the roof. I mean, they, they dried out things there. They slept there during hot weather. Uh, we even have in the new Testament, this idea of like people, uh, preaching or crying out from the rooftops. Well, that's because the rooftops were flat. And so there was a lot of activity that happened up there you know we have our back porches they had their roofs and so you but if there if there's no guard if there's no parapet along the edge to prevent someone from falling well then you've created you've you've heightened the risk factor of them being up there so it's a simple concern you if you build a new house and you're finishing your roof you put a parapet over the, around the roof. So this, this small wall, if you will, to prevent someone from,

from stumbling off. And the concern is that you not bring blood guilt in your house, if anyone falls from it. In other words, don't create a situation or don't allow a situation to exist in which a person could become, could become hurt, injured, even die. Arrange your home, arrange your property, arrange your activities in such a way that you don't create a situation where a member of your own family or one of your neighbors can become harmed. It's kind of the same idea behind if you have an animal, maybe it's an ox that is very dangerous and is likely to harm someone then you yourself as the owner are held responsible for that so it's it's a concern that in all your doings and all your property that you do you conduct things in such a way that

people that the the risk of harm is reduced to people and then 9 10 11 and 12 all concerned not mixing things uh like you don't in your venue you don't sow two kinds of seed when you plow i know dan this is a this is a verse that you think a lot about yeah yeah i do you take care of your farm i mean i know you have an ox and a donkey and the temptation when you plow is to put both them together but we've talked about this before you gotta you to stop that yeah i don't i don't do that anymore that used to be my go-to but yeah i've i've amended my ways well i'm i'm glad to see your your increasing sanctification i knew that i knew what happened so that's that's forbidden no no marrying wearing a material that's mixed wool and linen together i've just gotten rid of

the wool period just so i know now yeah so i'm not i don't want to be tempted oh good man you're getting this law down yeah we can get some tassels on the four corners your garments it is it is hard to read this stuff and not be like okay like i don't know i don't know man and here's the thing while it would seem ridiculous right where you're like okay say say me and chad like went in on a vineyard okay we decided you know what let's like start growing this these grapes and we're going to release that 40 40 minute wine you know we're going to do that it's gonna be great and uh and but we gotta like you know it comes time to like plant some new some new vines now obviously we're not going to be like shoot me now let's make sure we don't plant two different kinds of

grapes in here it's two different you know we don't we don't have any mixed seeds in here but if you did believe that we were under still under the law and in some way then you do have to think about these things you actually do have to think about okay is this like is this scarf but is it wool and linen mixed in any way is that what's going on here like what's that what's what's going on with this you would literally uh have to put some tassels on all your shirts that would also have to be also based on other passages a certain length even i mean like the shirt itself needs to be long you know you need to do all these things and so when somebody i mean so like wow this is sort of we read this and we're like this is seems ridiculous these are all things

to set israel apart obviously from other nations so like you know hey i know that's a i know that's an israelite walking down the street without even asking like i know for sure it is because look at the way he's dressed look at the way he looks um but if if that person that comes to you and then says well you know we we still we still you know the law the law the law the law and it's like throwing the law on you and you can't parse it all out and say that you can't that this other stuff doesn't apply then yeah that's exactly right but that's that's usually what happens well what they'll do is they'll say there's a ceremonial law and then there's the moral law the moral law stands well where does this fall in because yeah those nice and neat categories we

often hear about they're a little bit too nice and neat yeah because these aren't ceremonial well this is moral you know making sure that you have a fence on the top of your house is not ceremonial it's yeah it's look at the reason that he says to do it it's moral it's this isn't the same as like ritual uncleanliness or anything like that like that's not this kind of these are these are very practical laws i understand ceremonial law like some of that stuff but i think that those there's stuff that's there's a lot of gray area on some of these other things you're like well i don't know where does this fall in yeah so i understand I mean, just for the sake of instruction, some people have divided into the three kinds of law, right?

The political and the ritual and the moral. But there's those, yeah, as I say, those categories are fluid categories. And there's some things that, you know, it's hard to put them in any one of those three or they cross over like the Sabbath does. Well, typically what happens— A lot of this stuff is, yeah, how do you conduct yourself morally, right? Taking the captive one and making your wife, right? or a rebellious son. All this is a moral law.

Well, typically what people will do is they will say, well, the Ten Commandments, those are the ones that cross over. Oh, and also, you know, the sexuality stuff. Those are the ones, that's the only,

that's what they want to take over. That's it. It's a great example of how if you're going to live under the law, well, then you're going to have to live under the whole law. There's no like picking and choosing a few things that you think apply to you

and the other ones don't apply to you. which is why the gospel is as sweet as it is, because we are rescued from the power of the law. Christ is the end of the law, and so now we live in freedom. Yeah, and it doesn't mean that the law— I mean, certainly, this is what always is bound to happen, is when you say something like, well, you know, if you're going to— The same guy that said thou shalt not covet said put tassels on your garment.

And you might think that's ridiculous, but that is true. If you go to, you know, Hebrew Roots movement kind of stuff, there are certain movements that, like, will acknowledge that this is the case. Although I would vehemently disagree with them bringing all of this stuff over. At least they're consistent. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think what they show, what groups like that show, is what happens when you go down that road.

If you want to go down the law road Then you're going to go all the way There's no like going a few feet Down the law road It's either don't go down it Or you're going to go all the way And the law has a way of sucking you in that way too Because it like proliferates

You start doing this and think you have to live under that And pretty soon you're living under 10 more things and then 100 more things And pretty soon You put yourself back under the old covenant completely And in Paul's words and you've believed a different gospel, which is no gospel at all.

Yeah, well, you also want the law, but you don't want the punishments either. So you want honor your father and mother, but you don't want to go stoning your rebellious kids. Yeah. Yes, sir. And that's it, man. That's a great way to end it.

Yeah, that's real optimistic. Optimistic ending. Great. That's a great way to end it. Guys. We got more stuff coming up next week, so stay tuned. Yeah, we're going to have more super popular stuff

to talk about next week. uh hope you'll join us uh chad i'll see you then