40 Minutes In The Old Testament - Episode 77 (Exodus 14:21-31)

Episode Date: March 22, 2017

This episode is soaking wet! It's all about crossing the red sea, the violence and peace of baptism and the theme of seas in the Bible. Chad Bird and Daniel Emery Price hit all these things as they finish up chapter 14 of Exodus. Check it out! 

welcome to 40 minutes in the old testament i'm daniel larry price joined as always every time and never not by chad bird chad how's it going hey dan it's good it's good uh feels like it's been what has it been two weeks something like that since we delved in well here's a sneaky thing they don't it's been two weeks since me and you sat down and did this it's not been two weeks since people listen because we were a week ahead now we are a week ahead that's kind of nice to have uh one uh one in storage and ready to go right yeah that episode in the oven is good to have but we don't have any longer so now we're just uh but it was good to have so people didn't miss a week because uh i got sick uh almost died not really but felt like i was gonna

and so we couldn't we couldn't do it because i couldn't i literally could not talk that's not that's not a that's not very helpful when you're podcasting hey dude i will i will fight through some illness to like to do this stuff but uh when it comes to podcasting the one thing you can't fight through is sorry guys i cannot speak i cannot talk yeah just it's just glad you're better glad to be back at it yeah dude we've been just like 40 minutes of of me nodding at you you talking i mean maybe maybe that'd be better people have been like dude that would have been a much better podcast oh the conversation is always better i'm sure people talk to us we just can't hear them that's true like they're yelling like adding things along

while we're talking asking questions while we're talking so it's a it's a large conversation that takes place probably they're probably yelling at us they're probably like we're as we're working through there and come on chad pull together man i can't believe you're missing this i'm sure there's a few uh so where do we end off man do you remember we sort of left uh Israel in the middle of the sea, actually, is where we are. We're in the middle of chapter 14 of the Exodus, one of the most astonishing chapters and insightful chapters in the whole Bible. So I guess that's where we need to dive right back into the middle of the Red Sea

and see what happens to Israel and to Egypt, because both are central characters in this story. Hey, man, you know what? I'm all about that Red Sea. and you know who else is all about that Red Sea is Israel is all about that Red Sea much like the Passover is sort of this

big time moment in sort of Israel's history that they commemorated every year becomes this staple I don't think there is anything more sung about

that infiltrates the Jewish worship as you read the rest of the New Testament particularly if you go to the Psalms you go to the Jewish hymnal you have the deliverance from Egypt and then you've got lots of

straight up references to the Red Sea all over their hymnody if you will this becomes sort of this put a pin in it moment in history and it's weird where they know

like hey we belong to god remember the red sea yeah i i don't have any any stats here but uh i would i know the psalter psalms pretty well and i would venture to guess that there is besides creation there is no other historical event that is referenced more than the crossing of the red Sea in the Psalms of Israel. It really becomes the creation, which interestingly has to do with water, and the crossing the Red Sea, which of course is another liquid moment in God's saving plan. Both of those together are sort of the dual center around which a lot of the hymns of Israel circle. So yeah, I mean, it really does. And I want to talk more about this in a few minutes once we finish the chapter, but it really does become kind of the foundation for

almost everything that happens after Israel, the way they understand themselves, the way they understand God. And then it bleeds over into New Testament, as we'll also talk about in our understanding of of how god saves and and how he works in baptism and even how the last day is already prefigured in in this moment in this moment in the sea so you know there's a there's a there's a whole lot that uh that is uh is it's kind of a a growth out of this out of this chapter it uh it it it is really inexhaustible and it's various kinds of theological implications it has Yeah, yeah. I got thoughts, but I'm going to hold on to them. But I want you to put a pin in that thought of this being referenced over and over and over again and it being sort of this pivotal moment in the life of basically every Israelite from that time forward for generations and generations and still today. yeah let's uh let's put that pin there let's uh we'll finish the chapter just to kind of get the

whole story and then we'll go back and and talk about talk about those things because we're we're really not that far from the end i think we left off in our discussion of the various verses around around chapter verse 24 something like that so uh as far as what's happening uh israel of course was trapped there on the shore moses held his staff over the sea god caused this strong wind to blow which parted the waters israel is is passing through they got a wall of water on their left and a wall of water on their on their right and about at this point as they are passing through the sea the egyptians decide uh a very foolish decision by the way but the egyptians decide that they are going to pursue them right into the middle of the sea so you got verse 23

that the egyptians took up pursuit and all pharaoh's horses and his chariots and his horsemen so all the king's horses and all the king's men they they go after them into the midst of the sea and then we kind of this this pause in the story it says in verse 24 that it came about in the morning watch so this is like the the last last few hours of the night from like i don't know two o'clock to six o'clock something like that the last last watch of the night that God looks down on the army of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and cloud. So you had this image, we met this pillar of fire and cloud earlier at the end of chapter 13 that led Israel up to this point.

So Yahweh is still in this pillar. It's like he's clothed with this pillar of fire and cloud. He's there, but he's wrapped in the mantle of this pillar. and he looks down on the army of the egyptians and he throws them into confusion uh a few different ways that you could translate the hebrew here but uh uh it's something like he caused their chariot wheels to get stuck or to or to swerve or something like anyway he he messed with their chariot wheels however he did it he messed them up so that they they couldn't drive them anymore it's like they got they got stuck or they came off or whatever happened their wheels

weren't working the way that wheels were supposed to go and the egyptians at this point of course they're now they're stuck in the middle of the sea they got walls of water on their left and right and they're stuck they can't get out and it's at this point that they say this is this is Them speaking, they say, let us flee from Israel because Yahweh is fighting for them against the Egyptians. As if they didn't just didn't realize it to this point or didn't want to acknowledge it. I mean, they had seen the 10 plagues. They knew what Yahweh had done for his people. I mean, they're right in the middle of a sea that God has divided for them.

But it's like not until they finally get into the belly of the beast and God messes with their war implements that they finally realize that all hope is lost. Because not only have they been pursuing and fighting against Israel, but in fact, now Israel's God, Yahweh, is fighting against them. See, that's crazy right there. That is crazy. that's a crazy moment for for egypt i mean they're confessing the truth the truth that is their own undoing yeah dude i mean like post 10 plagues you know some crazy plagues that went down and then like your chariot wheel stuck in a in a seabed and you're like turn to your buddy and you're like bro it appears that god is on their side you know it's just dawned on me

you know god is fighting this is it this is i know what you know i was undecided before but uh i feel like it's safe to say at this point that there is something else at work here yeah you know it really is a testimony to the uh the stubbornness of of the enemies of god to to admit to confess uh the truth about him that only in the most dire of straits or only when destruction is just about to hit will they finally acknowledge that uh that they are fighting against god and god is fighting fighting against them dude you gotta have like a strong delusion on you okay

straight up if me and you are chasing like somebody like say they like snatched your wife's purse and me and you are chasing him

and he like runs up to like the the ocean and parts it and just starts running through it there is no chance no matter no matter how much you beg you'd be like let's get let's go dan like dude we got this there is no chance i'm going in there

no way dude that's it like that game over right as soon as the as soon as the c parts i'm like i'm out sorry i'm just gonna have to let the purse go i'm out man like i'm no way i'm going down there Well, I think this is a symptom of the hardening of hearts that took place, too. Well, yeah, it's kind of— Even when it's—they're going into death itself, they still go against Israel. Yeah, I don't think this is just a matter of, like, well, Pharaoh said to do it, so you got to do what Pharaoh says. I don't think it's that. uh i think this like shows you that pharaoh is um representative of of all of the Egyptian

you know of the entirety of the Egyptians um i mean i don't think it's just strictly pharaoh who has his heart hardened here but like it appears that these are some hard-hearted people because i don't i don't care who you are yeah you're not gonna do that like i mean it is your commander could be like go in there and do that and you're gonna have a number of dudes that are gonna be like no yeah yeah i think this is a it's kind of a a mass hardening that's taking place over the whole egyptian army and i mean it's a it's really a i think an insightful picture into the way that uh evil eventually is is destroyed and this is kind of the the meta story if you will of this whole individual story is that evil is destroyed by pursuit of God in attempt to destroy

him, and in that very pursuit of destruction, evil is destroyed. It's the same thing, of course, that happens with Jesus. The devil thinks that he has won by pursuing God all the way to the cross, and then it's on that very cross that evil is destroyed. Death thinks it has destroyed God by killing him and burying him, and yet it's in that very death and burial that death is destroyed. So you have these symbols of evil and of sin, personification of the devil, if you will, in Pharaoh and in his army, pursuing the people of God, and in that very pursuit, they themselves are destroyed. That's the way that God works. He brings his people to the point where it seems that They themselves are going to be destroyed.

And yet what happens is he ends up destroying evil in order that he might save his people. So they realize God's fighting for them. And God says to Moses to put his hand back over the sea. And the waters come back on the Egyptians, the chariots and their horsemen. and it uh it says that the egyptians while they were fleeing right into the sea that the lord overthrew them in the midst of the sea the the hebrew word uh naar is used there my translation as the lord overthrew the egyptians but literally it's the idea of shaking off it's like you have you know you you've got these uh i don't know you got ants that are crawling on something and you

you shake it and they all fall off into the water that's that's the image that that's uh It's conveyed by the Hebrew verb there He shakes them off into the midst of the sea And there they drown The waters engulf them And it says not even one of them remained Which is important because this is not The other plagues were to some extent restrictive

They only dealt with some of the people Or even the 10th plague only killed some The firstborn of the Egyptians But this one is is is is is the is a total destruction of the enemies of God and of his and of his people. So not even one of them remain. Then it kind of wraps up to kind of wrap up the chapter. It says the sons of Israel walked on dry land through the midst of the sea with these walls to their left and right. And it says in verse 30, the Lord saved Israel that day from the hand of the Egyptians. And Israel saw the Egyptians dead on the seashore.

And when Israel saw the great power which the Lord had used against the Egyptians, the people feared the Lord, and they believed in the Lord and in his servant Moses. Let me say a couple things about the way this wraps up, and then we'll go back and talk about some of these bigger issues. So these last two verses, you've got everything kind of pulled together here. You got your two main parties, Israel and Egypt. It's mentioned there's in these last two verses, Israel's mentioned three times and the Egyptians are mentioned three times. She got these these paired together and a threefold mentioning of them to kind of pull the whole story together.

Israel and Egypt, Israel representing the people of God and then Egypt representing everything that is anti God and that is anti his people. and it says the people when they had seen what god did they feared him they believed in him and in his servant moses i love the fact that faith it says they they feared and believed that their fear and their faith result from seeing what god has done on their behalf So by understanding that God has worked to save them, to destroy their enemies on the basis of what God has done, they fear and they believe in him. So faith is not just kind of simply a plunge into the unknown, you know, the step into an unknown darkness. Faith is based upon knowledge of what God has done for us in saving us. So our faith is not just kind of this, like sometimes we'll talk about faith, you know, this is leap into whatever.

No, faith is not based upon that. Faith is based upon knowledge and trust in what God has done for us in Christ. Just like the faith of the Israelites was based upon what God did for them in saving them from the Egyptians of the Red Sea. And not only did they believe in the Lord and in what he had done, but they also believed in his servant Moses. So there's this idea that by virtue of God's saving activity, the people believe in him, but they also believe in the one that he has sent to be their leader, to guide them, to be God's mouthpiece for them from this moment onward. So Moses himself is given credence and he's given authority, not based upon what he's done, but based upon the fact that God has used him as the human instrument to bring about this deliverance at the at the Red Sea. So that's the end of the chapter. Lots of lots of good stuff that is there. I'm sure there's things that you want to talk about, Dan. Let me kind of start us out with something we've touched on before, but I don't know that we explicitly looked at it.

And that is that when the New Testament reads the story of the crossing of the of the Red Sea, it reads that story in connection with with baptism. This is from this is from First Corinthians 10. Paul is Paul is leading up to his discussion of the Lord's Supper and related related matters. But this is the way he starts out. First Corinthians 10. He says, I don't want you to be unaware, brethren. that our fathers were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. And he goes on and all ate the same spiritual food and all ate the same spiritual drink, but they were drinking from the spiritual rock, which followed them and the rock was christ now what he does there what paul does there is he's reading this old testament story through new testament eyes so he's saying to the people that he's that he's

writing to to the corinthians as well as to us that when you read exodus 15 or 14 read that with the understanding that what god was doing there is the same thing that he does in our midst today Just like he saved Israel through the water and through the one that he had sent to bring them out of slavery and into liberation. So he does the same thing for us. They were baptized into Moses in the cloud and the sea, just like we are baptized into the new and the greater Moses, Christ, who has brought us through the water of baptism into freedom and into salvation via his cross and resurrection. So if you think about baptism as having a twofold nature, you're going to have kind of the whole picture of what God does in baptism and then how that connects with the Red Sea. because we tend to think of God's work in baptism in connection with his saving activity, which is true. But the flip side of that is that God also destroys in baptism. So baptism is also a violent

act. When you look at baptism from the perspective of the Red Sea, you see that what God does to the Egyptians, what he does to Pharaoh, what he does to these forces of evil in destroying them and drowning them in the water is the same thing that he does in baptism so in baptism what god does is he takes the old adam he takes our sinful nature he takes death he takes every every aspect of evil which we have inherited from adam and which we have which we have added to that to that and he and he plunges it under the water of of the red sea this red sea baptism that we are that we are undergoing, and he drowns it. It's a violent, destructive, death-dealing act. That is the one side of baptism. So God does destroy in baptism, just like he destroyed at the Red Sea. But he

destroys in order that he might save and recreate. There could be no salvation for Israel without the simultaneous destruction of Israel's enemies. Salvation means being saved from something, and that something from which we are being saved needs to be destroyed. So God destroys our sinful nature. He drowns it in order that he might recreate us and reform us in the image of Christ so that when we emerge from the waters, we emerge as a new creature, as one who has passed through the water of our Red Sea baptism and emerge on the other side as those who are recreated, remade,

who are saved from all the stuff that is now at the bottom of the Red Sea, Red Sea of Baptism. And I think when you look at baptism from the perspective of this Old Testament narrative of the crossing of the Red Sea, it gives you a bigger picture of exactly what God is doing there. He's not just saving you, but he's saving you by destroying that which would have been your death. Yeah, there's this awesome thing where – because this language might be kind of weird to someone where you're like, hold up, hold up. What do you mean baptized into Moses? But all this is really saying is that they are baptized into their deliverer. This is what Moses is, right?

He's the deliverer that God sent. uh and and so if you look at it that way like yes but we are we are but too baptized into um the one sent to save us we're baptized into our deliverer and uh what's you know all the way back to that initial point that we were talking about uh this becomes then this pivotal moment This is very much the Jewish identity. We're those who pass through the Red Sea, right? That's who we are. And so as this becomes the thing that they sing about

and the thing that they identify themselves with, likewise, at least this should be this way, this is why Paul brings it up almost in every letter to different churches, he will reference their baptism. He does it in Colossians and Romans and Galatians and 1 Corinthians. Over and over and over again, he talks about this. It's in Ephesians, if you know where to look. That your identity then, much like Israel's identity are those who were baptized in the Red Sea,

that God brought through the Red Sea and that the horse and the rider were thrown into the sea and destroyed forever. Your identity then, this sort of pinnacle moment in the Christian life, is the one of baptism. you you are the baptized that's who you are uh you you are the ones who have been baptized into christ you are baptized children of god there's this there's this cool phrase when you have a a christian who's uh wandering off there's i i can't even remember who it is that first said this but i love it and he and he steals it from paul because he says this is what paul does over and over and again his epistles but he says he tries to grab them by their baptism uh which i like because i Yeah, that's great. That's a great image.

Yeah, I do think that's what Paul is doing a lot of the time. So instead of trying to grab them by something else, grab them with the law or something like that, instead he's like, hey, hey, you see this in Corinthians, jacked up church. I mean like the worst church you ever thought of. Okay, like you've never been to a church that was more jacked up than the church in Corinth.

And he says, he's like, hey, you guys were baptized. What's going on? what what is this like you're baptized uh that's that's grabbing them by their back that's grabbing them by their identity saying like hey you know this is you right this is the moment and like and this is why like i love hymns that incorporate uh terms like baptism or washing and things like that because i think it's i think there's biblical precedent uh when you look at the sort of things that the Israelites sang about. This is a

definitive moment, a defining moment in who they are. And it wasn't as though, oh, it's happened and then we just forget about it. No, this happens and now we're going to sing about it for generations. Well, this didn't just happen to your ancestors a long time ago

when you get to sing about it. This sort of, God takes the Red Sea and puts each and every one of you through it. And so this becomes something that, honestly, I would like to hear us sing about more i think i wish there was more more of baptism in our hymnody i mean there's some because i think that that's exactly how it was for the jews it becomes a thing and so um yeah that's that's it sounds weird but but uh yeah baptism baptized is who you are

much like the jews are they are the ones who like were brought safely through the red sea you know that's why uh we haven't got to it yet we will next we will next time but that's why immediately following this in chapter 15 is is a song it is a hymn uh it's it it doesn't just kind of recount what happened but it does much more than that well of course i don't want to get too far ahead we'll get to that we'll get to that in the next episode talk all about the song at the song at the sea but it's very significant and it dovetails exactly what you were what you were saying, Dan, that the hymns that flow from this act are numerous and they really set the identity of Israel for all generations. So who is Israel? Well, they are the people that God brought out

of Egypt and through the Red Sea into the promised land. That's who they are. And their identity i love this aspect of it too their identity that is based upon not some moral achievement or some victory which they which they were able to uh to gain through military might or through careful human planning but their their identity is based completely upon god's action for them so he's the one who parted the waters he's the one who destroyed their enemies he's the one who brought them safely through the waters of the sea. And so this then becomes the way they understand themselves, what they sing about, the way that they see who they are in the eyes of God.

And as such, it becomes exactly then the same for us in baptism. It's not just an act in a past, but it becomes the moment which defines all our moments. so when we are baptized when we cross our own red sea that defines who we will be for forever really we are those who are washed into christ jesus those who are saved from sin death and the devil those who are brought forth into into a new into a new creation i mean you see this in revelation when you're like when straight up the the question is asked so who are these guys i think that's those whose robes have been washed white, right? I mean, that's who you are, like, forever in heaven.

I mean, so just as God pulls Israel out of the slavery of Egypt, washes them in the Red Sea, and takes them to the Promised Land, there is a 40 years in the wilderness thing that we all go through there. But it's just like that for us. He pulls us out of slavery to send death and the devil, baptizes us into our deliverer we struggle through life as god's baptized people uh but eventually he he the end goal is what he does that does there and he will take us to the promised land of a new heavens and new earth and a good forever i mean that that's i mean like the whole

the whole redemptive narrative is sort of like right here in the exodus i mean this is this is what if you want to know what the bible's about you can sort of just read like these two chapters and know like yeah this is what it's about it's about god uh not not even see like a lot of times you get this twisted like it's not even like really about like god doing things through you it's about god doing things for you and to you so he's he delivers you unites you with christ at baptism guides you through this wilderness of life uh providing for you all along the way and we'll get there with manna and what life-giving water from the rock of christ eventually to get you to that good everlasting promised land of the new creation that's what's up that's the whole

bible condensed down i mean that exodus is the whole bible yeah it really is it really is it's the bible in miniature right there you know i as you were talking uh i was reminded of of another of another aspect of this especially with the whole new creation imagery and that is that when John in Revelation 21, so the next to last chapter in the whole Bible, when he talks about the new heavens and the new earth, one of the things that he mentions is that there is no longer any sea. This is the beginning of Revelation 21. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth for the first heaven and the first earth passed away. And there is no longer any sea. Now, I remember years ago reading that for the first time and and being struck by that and wondering why in the world that

was added by john i mean you got a new heavens and a new earth why would it why why would there not be a sea the old heavens and the old earth they had plenty of seas and and over over time i came to realize it especially through studying the old testament passages like the one we're looking at now is that for the old testament people when they thought of the sea they didn't think of some kind of calm uh calm waters you know a nice vacation spot on the beach for them the sea was symbolic of evil and of chaos and of confusion and of the and the forces of evil that god overcame on their on their behalf it's not just it certainly is here with crossing of the red sea but you already see this in the in the in the beginning when when god one

of god's first acts was to demonstrate the that he holds the authority over water because he splits the waters in half he separates the waters above from the waters below and then later he'll he'll split the waters again and he'll make water stay over here and then he has dry ground and he won't let the border between those two be crossed. So God is always the God who subjugates the power of water. He's the one who rules over the swelling of the seas, as one of the Psalms talks about. Psalm 46, that has that verse about, be still and know that I am God, talks about how there's the roaring of the of the waves the roaring of the seas the sounds of many waters so for the old testament in the old testament imagination and really in the biblical

imagination the seas are not a place of of repose and calm and peace but instead of of of evil and of chaos and confusion that god must overcome and so when you have a new heavens and a new earth where there is no longer any sea, that's the biblical way of saying that in this new heavens and new earth, there is calm. There's not chaos. There's peace. There's not warfare. There's salvation. There's no need for destruction anymore. So when you read stories like the crossing of the Red Sea, you got to read this, not just in isolation, but in view of a whole biblical story as well, that this account of these violent waters is God's way and God's victory by means of and over these violent waters is also a way of his pointing toward really to the end

times. In some ways, you could say that the crossing of the Red Sea is a preview of the eschaton of the last days when god will vanquish all evil by means of water and then we'll create a new heavens and a new earth where there will no longer be any chaos or any confusion or any or any death yeah i think i think that it's also there's um obviously so in genesis you have god creating everything uh kind of from water uh informs everything out of water um then you have him recreating people through the waters of baptism um and the new heavens in the new earth there there the creation is done uh and recreation is done so there there is no you while your identity in in the new creation is one of uh one who has been baptized there is no baptism going on

uh in the new heavens and new earth there is no there is no more creation going on or recreation going on this is like the forever eighth day and and so it's there were this weird thing where like water is no longer necessary since god creates and recreates using water it tells it sort of speaks to the finality of the new heavens and the new earth that they're they're forever there will never again be a cause to create or recreate anything that this this final word of uh this is very good uh remains it does not get destroyed there will be no need to baptize anything uh that everything will remain uh good and so because that water is the element that god uses for that right this is what he creates things out of but god no longer will have have

need of it which is great so it speaks to the the finality of the goodness and um and the final destruction of sin that there'll be there'll be no need to wash anything everything will be pure no need to create everything anything everything will be created and no need to recreate anything because nothing will be fallen yeah yeah you know i i think this uh uh as far as like i'm looking at how all these narratives fit together i think this this also gives us an insight into what happens with christ and his apostles as they are crossing over over the sea of galilee and it storms and storms come up yeah i don't know if if folks have have uh have looked at that story through this particular lens but i think when you do it gives you a greater insight into what's

happening between jesus and his disciples there they're they're in the boat a storm whips up the sea of course the disciples are are panicking jesus is asleep in the boat and they wake him But Lord, don't you care that we are that we are perishing. So really what you have happening in that in that crossing of the of the Sea of Galilee in the midst of a storm is kind of all of these biblical stories coming together. I mean, you've got the creator in the boat, the one who who overcame the chaos of the waters in the beginning, the one who brought Israel to the midst of the sea and then who brought Israel later across the Jordan River, which we haven't talked about yet. uh the one who delivered jonah from the sea i mean you got all these stories of god bringing about deliverance for his people in the midst of of the waters of chaos and here he is

with his disciples on the boat in the storm and he stands up and he he says be still so by his word he brings calm over these these chaotic waters and they cross from one shore to the other So it's what Jesus is doing there is he's demonstrating by his actions that he's the creator come to his creation to bring peace in the midst of chaos by means of water and word and to bring his his people then safely across to where he he wants him to be. It's I mean, it it's all kind of implicit in that story. But when you see that story, it connects you with all these other biblical stories and it becomes clear exactly what what Christ is doing there. yeah one of my favorite uh jesus and a stormy sea things actually in mark where the disciples are in the boat and uh things are getting crazy and the seas seas all whipped up in a frenzy and it says jesus on a mountain and it says that he he looks down and sees them perishing and so i mean like

there's this beautiful gospel thing where they're like they're in the sea they're gonna die and here's jesus on a mountain and he has to condescend he descends down and comes walking across the water like just like a boss yeah it's it's amazing because like that's that's how it goes you're like we're all gonna die we're all gonna die and god looks down from heaven and says guess i'm gonna have to come down and like a champ and just like walk right on top of this oh that's great that is great yeah that's all that's all that's it that's it dude that's it we could talk i feel like we could talk about uh water narratives for uh days and days yeah we could we could well it's just what the i mean the you can hardly open up a page of the bible without getting wet i mean it's it's

all over the place so uh it's uh it lends itself to lots of stories yeah it's one of our main objectives is to teach you to read the bible with uh without the the common evangelical dehydrated hermeneutic there you go so it's a the scriptures are wet brother all right guys thanks so much for uh for tuning in uh go over to the itunes rate and review share this podcast uh go over to christvillefast.org check out the events that we got going on we got one coming up in detroit uh may 6th and we got a huge event that you don't want to miss coming up in san diego in october to celebrate the 500th anniversary of the reformation you are running out of time to get in on the early bird that is only that early bird price ends at the end of this month uh so if you

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