40 Minutes In The Old Testament - Episode 80 (Exodus 16:1-21)

Episode Date: April 18, 2017

It's all bread from heaven in this episode! Well, actually there is a massive detour in the wilderness of sin. Chad Bird and Daniel Emery Price end up all over the New Testament before bringing it all... back around to God providing food for a bunch of his grumbling children. It's an interesting episode but you may just like it! 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to another episode of 40 Minutes in the Old Testament. I am Daniel Emery Price, joined by the one and only Chad Bird, or as people know by his Twitter handle, Chadalicious, or Birdalicious, or whatever that looks like. Yeah, Bird Chadalicious. Yeah, if I had a dollar for every time someone had looked at my email and told me, hey, you know, when I first looked at that, I thought it said Bird Chadalicious. I'm a pretty good pile of cash. i don't know i don't know why i uh well i chose that because my name is is chad lewis bird but i
Starting point is 00:00:59 never in my uh in my choosing of that never dreamed that it would be uh would be interpreted that way it does kind of it does kind of look like bird chadalicious somebody told me one time they thought that was my wrestling name i'm not sure i got that but it is really bird chad lewis even even if it looks uh it looks different i'll try to refrain from every single week being by introducing myself and then saying joined by bird chatalicious yeah about a dollar for every time that mistake has been made and for the uh a dollar for every time people have told me that in my uh in my 20s and 30s i look like bob saget i just posted a picture on facebook of when i went to to uh to siberia years ago in 1999 actually to i taught at the lufthansa seminary and that
Starting point is 00:01:48 was severe siberia anyway i got a picture of there me on red square and and and i could have predicted it there's somebody commenting saying hey you look like you look at bob saget yeah i know i've been told that many times not anymore that's why i grew a beard so i didn't have the bob saget look a lot going on anymore yeah that wasn't that you're saying the bob saget's not one of the guys you're like awesome sweet i'm gonna go with that yeah not exactly my hero when i'm out to emulate if somebody's like dude you look like brad pitt you're like i'm gonna stay with this look as long as i can i'm going for wolverine but i i'm just no one's ever made that comparison that's my goal yeah people usually end up saying i look like some like some cartoon character or
Starting point is 00:02:32 something there it's never like so it's never some like awesome actor they're like dude you look like it'll be some muppet character or something you're like what you're like oh thanks appreciate that yeah you look like big bird dude oh great oh man where we at oh i think i think uh we threw a tree into some water uh made it sweet and uh waters this time yeah that's right that that puts us at uh the chapter all about uh manna oh that doesn't have anything to do with jesus No, no, nothing whatsoever. There's no connection whatsoever between the bread and the wilderness and the bread of life. But maybe we can make something up as we go along.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Yeah, let me see. I'll try to connect some dots as best I can. Yeah, see if you can make a jump here to a certain chapter in the gospel of St. John somewhere along the way. Yeah. Yeah, so if you're a listener, a faithful listener, you know that we crossed the Red Sea. We sang a song. We came to Marah, which means bitter. The waters are bitter.
Starting point is 00:03:40 So God showed Moses a tree, which he threw into the waters, sweetened the waters. And then they moved on. They camped at a place called Elim, where there's a whole bunch of water. There's 12 springs of water. There's 70 date palms there. So kind of a nice little Garden of Eden in the midst of this wilderness. And they stayed there at least for a while, but then they had to leave. And that's where we are at the beginning of Exodus chapter 16.
Starting point is 00:04:08 They set out from Elim and all the congregation of Israel came to the wilderness of sin. Well, it's not really the wilderness of sin. If you're reading your English Bibles, you'll see that it's written S-I-N. But don't get confused between the English spelling there and our word for sin. Dude, I've totally been there. If anyone wants to know, that is in Arkansas. I'm dead certain of it. I'm pretty sure that I have.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I do. I could freaking map that thing out. Like, I've been there. I've spent a lot of time in the wilderness of sin. Yeah. You know, it has worked very well, actually. I mean, it is a wilderness of iniquity, of sin, but it's kind of a double entendre, I guess you could say. In Hebrew, it's the wilderness of seen, written like S-E-E-N.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I have seen this wilderness. But in English, in our translations, it usually comes out as capital S-I-I-N. So, I mean, it's a great little handle there for preaching, I suppose. We're going to talk about the wilderness of sin. Everyone's convinced that's right next, that that's wherever they live. You're like, the wilderness of sin. I'm pretty sure that's my backyard. It's got to be.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I've spent many years in the wilderness of sin as well. I know the terrain like the back of my hand. You went camping there? Yeah, I built a house. Yeah. Yeah, St. Deep Roots in the wilderness of sin, in fact. It's between Elim and Sinai. So that kind of situates us as to where we came from and where we're going.
Starting point is 00:05:51 So they leave their camp at the springs of water, but they're not all the way to Sinai yet. We're still working our way there. And it's already halfway through the second month. So some time has passed, about a month and a half since everybody left Egypt. So they're a little ways into their journey. Just like we heard before, back in chapter 15, verse 24, when the people were thirsty, they grumbled at Moses saying, what shall we drink? so here again in verse 2 of chapter 16 we encounter grumbling once more and this kind of it kind of
Starting point is 00:06:34 it uh broadens the uh broadens the whole spectrum of who was doing the grumbling here in in chapter 15 it says so the people grumbled at moses but here it says and the whole congregation of the sons of israel and here's what they said here's the the uh the content of their grumbling we wish would that or we wish that we had died by the lord's hand in the land of egypt when we sat by the pots of meat james's flesh pots there sat by the pots of meat and when we ate bread to the full because you speaking there to moses and aaron you have brought us out into the wilderness to kill this whole assembly by the way by the way that's the name of my next band flesh pots flesh pots yeah that's if i ever start a heavy metal band again flesh pots is on the list
Starting point is 00:07:35 flesh pots yeah that image that image is it's always kind of grossed me out i don't know why but uh flesh pots this is conjures up this this uh image in my mind of death for some reason but pots of meat sounds a little better pots that's it i still don't really i mean do we put meat in pots i mean i just that's barbecue grill that's a pot but when we sat by the barbecue grills i did i got i got a pot like on the pot roast bro oh there you go okay pot roast we sat by the when we had pot roast we had plenty of bread in the in the land of land of egypt pot roast and bread or where it's at on a sunday afternoon you put that thing you put that man we i make a we make a pretty big habit of this like early in the morning the pot roast goes in
Starting point is 00:08:23 i go do all my stuff i gotta do at church probably end up going out to lunch with some people get back in the afternoon take a nap get up the whole house smells like pot roast dinner is served it's a great thing you've got it all planned out it's nice i'm nothing if not prepared that's it it's a very good uh very good tradition uh very biblical it is that's why we do it so this this this whole verse is kind of uh uh nostalgia in some ways don't you think i mean they're they're thinking back so think think of it this way so they're they're in a situation now where they're uh they're looking at the present through the eyes of the past so they're looking at their current situation they're hungry they're in the wilderness they're free but they're hungry you know they're
Starting point is 00:09:17 they're no longer bound to follow the uh the dictates of the pharaoh stuck out in the middle of the desert and they don't have any food there they were lacking water earlier they're they become nostalgic they think about the good old days and uh it's interesting how when this happens when nostalgia takes place that very often we tend to exaggerate the deficiencies of the present and to exaggerate the happiness of the past so when we when we engage in nostalgia it's like we look back and i hear this all the time when people talk about the good old days you know why can't we bring back the good old days well the good old days had plenty of good old sufferings in them as well there were a lot of
Starting point is 00:10:07 deprivations in the good old days whatever those good old days might have been so we tend to forget about the the sufferings and and the lack and the pain and the heartache that we suffered in the past and tend to just focus upon those good things whenever we're engaging in nostalgia. And that's what's happening to the Israelites here. So earlier when they're in Egypt, they're crying out to the Lord because of their oppression. But now when they're free and in the wilderness, they're looking back on those times as if they were the best times of their life. And so I think when we engage in that kind of nostalgia, very often what happens is our ingratitude for the present gifts of God decreases. We have this kind of unrealistic memory of the past.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And what happens in the present is we're ungrateful for what we do have. And as we see here with the Israelites, this crisis of the present, in this case, the crisis of hunger, leads to a crisis of faith. And we begin to doubt that God will provide. We begin to doubt that God is on our side. We begin to doubt his love and his mercy. And in some cases, people even doubt his power or even his existence, depending on how severe the crisis might be. That's what's happening to Israelites. The same thing that happens to us in our own wilderness of sin, if you will, that whenever there is some kind of deprivation that we're undergoing, maybe it's a sickness, maybe it's a period of grief, maybe it's a financial crisis.
Starting point is 00:11:55 maybe it's a marital crisis whatever that uh that cross we are bearing in the present might be that leads then to a spiritual crisis as well the physical side of our life and the and the spiritual side of our life are inextricably intermingled with one another so then what happens to us physically almost always inevitably affects us spiritually don't you think this is most certainly true. It's kind of a double-edged sword because in those times when there is a crisis, that is typically when God is most at work in our lives. At the same time, though, when there's a crisis, that's when we tend to have the greatest struggles and the greatest doubts and begin to question all sorts of things. And we never stop to question when we're happy and
Starting point is 00:12:53 got plenty of money in our bank account we're healthy and and all those all those sorts of things so it's you know it it's like the times when god is most at work in our lives are the times that we would never we would never choose on our own because they're never easy easy times they're always hard times yeah i mean a lot a lot of times it's in that god is also working this is this is why god is god is nuts a little bit but i'm gonna play i'm gonna just i'm just gonna own this and play on those words but uh maybe it's not accidental i don't know but uh it is it is and as much as the shoe fits like god is at work in the wilderness of sin it seems like quite often i mean those are the times when you you probably are in a bad place
Starting point is 00:13:42 of your own doing i mean there's there's a couple different kinds of ways that that we suffer i mean they all have to do with sin because sin is the reason we're in a fallen world but there's some things that you certainly didn't uh you can't control i mean it's not your fault if you're born blind or uh or you have some kind of you know if you get cancer or something like that this is probably not you're doing but i don't know about you chad most of my suffering is like pretty self-inflicted yeah like 99.9 percent of my suffering is due to my own stupid choices yeah and like and this is this is a mean like hey go out there and make sure you suffer something but like i that's when it is in those times that where sometimes in that suffering you get to the point
Starting point is 00:14:30 where like i mean you just you can't you can't do anything about it it's your own fault it's a And God is the one who has to come, and that's where he's rescuing you and lifting you up and teaching you. And that happens a lot of times in the midst of being in what feels like very much a wilderness. A wilderness that you yourself weren't just placed into, but wandered off into. And it's not fun. That's one of the reasons I don't recommend it. uh it's not it's not a pleasant place to be uh but you do find out that sure enough like god is there too he likes to work in those places where you look all around you and it doesn't seem like
Starting point is 00:15:14 there is life it doesn't seem like there's there's hope doesn't seem like there's a there's a way out well that's that's that's god's workshop that's where he that's where he does his best work is because when uh there's really nothing that we can do ourselves to to get ourselves out of the situation when there's really uh at least to our vision no uh no possibility of of hope or restoration well that's when god steps in and he does he does kind of work that he always does he brings life right into the middle of death and where there's darkness he brings he brings light that's the way he's always worked uh he's he brought all creation into being out of nothing And so he continues to work that same way.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Yeah, and totally because you deserve it. Yeah, because we're such good, upright, holy, righteous people. That's the reason God acts that way. You see this clearly with the people of Israel. Yeah, I mean, they're in the midst of their praising God and living righteous and holy lives. God provides the metaphor. Totally relying on him. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:16:24 No anxiety. no no like accusing god or or his servant uh of uh of abandoning them or leading them out to die none of that just just pure unadulterated faith bro and uh and then that's when god's like you know what manna for you it's amazing in this chapter that uh that god doesn't get angry with the israelites isn't it moses does a little bit later on but god that is one of the the striking absences of this chapter is the anger of god they're complaining about what god has done they're complaining to moses and accusing moses of trying to kill them in a little bit they're going to break the the sabbath sabbath rules but throughout this god is nothing but gracious
Starting point is 00:17:16 and giving and and forgiving he really is uh this is a this whole chapter is a great example of his long suffering in the midst of uh his people's hard-heartedness and and grumbling and complaining about uh their situation yeah yeah and you know um when you see god providing bread from heaven right and uh to a bunch of people who don't deserve it um who are who are not trusting or loving him the way they ought considering that they were just like pulled out of Egypt
Starting point is 00:17:57 that I mean that's a that's strikingly similar to the way that the bread of life the true bread from heaven comes and what he comes into I mean he comes into a very similar situation where
Starting point is 00:18:13 that people are a little grumbly a little complainy uh they're not uh they're i mean like i mean spiritually they're a mess uh you know there's a reason that john the baptist came first it wasn't because like everyone was super prepared to receive the messiah you know god didn't look down and be like you know what this is prep nice like let's go i mean yeah in fact uh i was looking at this this morning i was curious uh and this this is the uh this wouldn't be of interest to to everyone but i'll put it out there because i think it is a little bit of an insight into what you were just
Starting point is 00:18:55 describing dan so the the the greek translation of the hebrew here for grumbling in uh verse 2 exodus 16 that greek verb for grumbling that's used there is the exact same verb that we find it two times in Luke's gospel when it describes the grumbling of the scribes and the Pharisees against Jesus. And what I find especially interesting is that both times it occurs, it's in Luke 15 and Luke 19, both times that verb occurs, it is in the context of Jesus eating with sinners, which I think is pretty insightful here. So the kind of mess that we have here with Moses and the Israelites in the wilderness
Starting point is 00:19:46 is the same kind of mess that Jesus is going to encounter when he comes into the wilderness of Israel in his incarnation. And the same grumbling that was taking place back then is the same kind of grumbling that we're going to hear
Starting point is 00:19:59 in his own ministry where people are turned against him, ironically, because of who he eats with. So it's a whole, just like there's grumbling here because of food, there's grumbling later on in Luke's gospel
Starting point is 00:20:12 because of food as well that the Son of God would deign to eat with those that the Pharisees considered religious lowlifes. Yeah, that hasn't gone anywhere. What's crazy about that is like, and I'm about to bunny trail here. Sorry, we're talking about food now. We started talking about food. Once we started on pot roast, it's all over. It's all derailed.
Starting point is 00:20:38 But you have here People are grumbling and there's food involved And then you have the Pharisees They're hacked off at Jesus because there's food involved And you know what's crazy Is like you think This gets fixed Like at the cross
Starting point is 00:20:53 This will just be done with People won't do this anymore But then you go into Acts And you see Peter Compromised with some Judaizers Like I'm not going to eat with these Gentiles because i don't want to hack off these dudes and you're like bro did you not hang out with jesus for three years was this not like the exact thing that he did that like got people annoyed
Starting point is 00:21:17 and like and like actually like to the point that after it says that they saw him eating and drinking with tax collectors and prostitutes that it says like after that they sought a way to kill him i mean so you know this and yet like the propensity that you still have is to be like oh man there's some holy people i better not be seen with with those people yeah i don't want i don't want to eat with them i better not eat with them like like and you know if you think that it has somehow like that ended with peter you are also sadly mistaken like like the equivalent of that most certainly still goes on today oh yeah yeah by all means uh the the more people are worried about uh obtaining and keeping the approval of the religious elite whoever those might be
Starting point is 00:22:10 then the more they're going to worry about being associated with those that the religious elite object to right i there was a there's a tweet that was going around for quite a while i can't remember who who uh who tweeted it out originally but it says something like uh if you want to if you want to ruin your reputation with the religious then hang out with those that the religious reject or something along those lines and that's very true uh you don't you don't want to be associated with certain people because if you do then you're going to become uh those that the religious superiors are going to going to reject well that goes all the way back to jesus there's there's there's few things that more that are more christ-like
Starting point is 00:22:54 than befriending those that the religious establishment keeps at arm's length or rejects entirely dude you like there are there are few things yeah there are few things more christ-like than wasting your righteousness on sinners luther like says that part of the christian life is is the calling to do exactly that that and obviously we don't have any vertical righteousness to waste we're all in the same boat when that comes to that but what he does mean by wasting your righteousness on uh on the sinner is that the perceived righteousness that we have that horizontal righteousness that good reputation that that upstandingness uh before the eyes of other people that we are to waste that on sinners he called he calls that um uh rolling around in
Starting point is 00:23:50 the mire with them it's like real graphic man but but but that's what it is i mean jesus didn't seem real concerned about whether or not his reputation was uh you know gonna get like all all all messed up based on like who he was willing to love and and have to show compassion to and that's where these didn't seem he's not concerned about that at all you know some people say like you know you've heard like you know man of no reputation i'm sometimes like it's not entirely true like you just had like a really like by the end it's just like a really bad reputation yeah right yeah well i think of the mistake that a lot of people make with regard to this whole reputation business is they mistake their reputation for their ego and these are two
Starting point is 00:24:39 different things yeah yeah jesus jesus wasn't worried about his reputation of the sense of of his ego but that's usually what happens is people are you know they want to hang with the right people because they want to look good in other words they want they want to have you know what what their ego is is desiring they want to feel good about themselves they want to look good in the eyes of others and so they want to make sure and keep the people that can give that to them on their right side and so they know if you know if they hang out with the sinners with the infamous with those that are rejected by the religious elite because they're going to lose some of that approval and so their ego is going to suffer and they they might use the whole
Starting point is 00:25:22 reputations uh as an excuse for avoiding those people but that's it's only their ego they're protecting it's not their reputation yep yeah jesus uh not not a man of much ego not counting equality with god something to be grasped even though he was god now that's Now that's being humble right there, bro. Yeah, but he emptied himself out, being found in the likeness of man and hanging out with those that were considered really to be subhuman by the scribes and the Pharisees. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Yeah, that bunny trail took us quite a ways. It did. We have detoured way off the pass. That's what the wilderness of sin will get you. That's what happens. we're wandering around for for 40 minutes in the wilderness here well we'll get back to manna so we're going to circle back here uh backtrack from uh from galatians through uh through the gospels back here to exodus 16 back to the grumbling of the
Starting point is 00:26:26 israelites and the flesh pots that they are uh they're missing from back in their egypt days so how does god respond to all this well he uh several different ways but uh as far as the physical part of it he gives them two gifts it's mainly on the manna in this chapter but actually there's there's two different food gifts that god gives them one is the manna which becomes the daily gift that he provides and continuing all throughout the 40 years and there will notice and the other is the quail so in this particular area of the world a quail were migratory birds and so they would of course fly south for the winter months they fly uh they fly north for the summer months and uh this would have been kind of in the springtime for the
Starting point is 00:27:18 beginning of the summer when when all this happens so there uh there's some sort of migration that's taking place and god takes advantage of that in order to bring quail into their camp so uh he provides for them uh quail at evening time i'm in verse 13 it came about an evening that the quails came up and covered the camp so now they're gonna have meat to eat and they received quail more than There's a pretty famous story in the book of Numbers that's parallel to this one in many ways. And quail is given to them there as well. But that's an occasional gift. The meat is.
Starting point is 00:28:03 But what becomes their daily ration is manna. So what is manna? Well, that's kind of what the Israelites wondered. Most everyone's probably heard this. But just to explain a little bit, the name manna, this is from verse 15 of chapter 16. It says, the Israelites get up in the morning, and there was a layer of dew around the camp. Nothing unusual about that. But as the dew evaporates, they see this fine flake-like thing on the ground.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And so they're looking around at this stuff. and they don't know what it is and so they ask a very simple question in hebrew they said manhu which means what is it and that became the name of the stuff so manna really is what is it that's the literal translation of of it which is kind of a funny name for uh for for bread when you when you think about it don't we have a candy bar called whatchamacallit whatchamacallit yeah it's manna that's kind of the uh the equivalent here watchamacallit give me one of those watchamacallit so they're eating what is it for 40 years in the wilderness manhu or as it as it's uh usually uh pronounced manna so this is a so you're saying this is like a flaky
Starting point is 00:29:30 thing on the ground and i i have to i have to just believe that this is just communion wafers with the morning dew the communion wafers that have been stamped with uh a picture of a cross yeah yeah totally that's why that's why much like when i go up to communion and they have the wafer i also say what is this i thought we were getting bread what is this what is this you know there's there's there's a whole lot of ways that the old testament describes in manna and so it's kind of it's kind of hard for me anyway to get a a clear picture in my mind is actually what it looked like okay so it's called a flake like thing in verse 14 but later in the chapter in verse 31 it says the house of israel named it manna and here it says it was like
Starting point is 00:30:30 coriander seed well coriander seeds are a little bit bigger than a pea and uh they're they're white so it's got like it's got two different descriptions here in other words it's considered it's called a flake like thing earlier in the chapter and then here it's called something that kind of resembles a coriander seed and white in appearance and then we have so i don't know exactly what it looked like uh we have two different descriptions there but we're told more than once that it tasted like wafers with honey and that's pretty consistent throughout uh throughout the old testament the description of its taste is wafers wafers like honey so what is it well uh this is this is my opinion on on the matter uh there is uh and this is widely documented
Starting point is 00:31:19 and you can read about this in the various commentaries there's there is widely documented in this part of the world a secretion that's put out by insects these insects are like little aphids and they they feed on the tamarisk trees which are very popular this this part of the world and they secrete this sugary substance which forms into seed like uh uh secretions hardens and it's actually still eaten in that part of the world in fact the arabs call it manna now it could be that what we see here is related to that. I tend to think that it is. Now, did I just deny that it's a miracle? No, nothing whatsoever. Instead, I think this is an example of God taking something that does occur in nature and amplifying it and miraculously amplifying it
Starting point is 00:32:11 so that there was enough there for the people to consume on a daily basis for 40 years, no matter no matter where they were and he uh he so worked it to where there was enough for them on friday to cover not only friday but the following day which was the sabbath as as well hey slow your heretical role chad because what i hear you saying is that sometimes god might take food that already exists and multiply it which seems wildly unbiblical yeah you know i was thinking about that this morning as i was as i was deliberating whether i was going to go full board heretical on you or not i mean if only there were other instances where like the god or god incarnate uh took things that we already eat and then like and took like a small amount of them
Starting point is 00:33:08 and then made enough to feed, like, a great multitude. If only that was somehow – if that was precedented, I'd be okay with it. But, you know, that seems very outside the nature of God and probably his heresy. Yes, it does, it does, it does. You know, I think this does actually fit very well with – dovetails very well with the feeding miracles of the four and the 5,000. Yeah, yeah. You have – in both cases, what do you have?
Starting point is 00:33:37 you have people in the wilderness you've got moses as the leader you've got christ as their leader or their teacher you've got hunger in both cases and then you've got some things from nature okay in the old testament you have the quail i mean nobody tries to say these were like miraculous birds that just god made up here angel quail yeah angel quail that just popped out of heaven and fell fell there in their camp and so these these are natural quail and i suspect that the manna was this natural secretion sugary secretion that's found in this part of the world and god simply used that multiplied it magnified it in order to provide for for all these people and then you go to john 6 for instance where the feeding at 5000 recorded in all four gospels so
Starting point is 00:34:32 but you can look in Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John, and you've got the same situation. You've got a lot of people in the wilderness around a teacher. They're hungry, and so what does he do? Well, he takes fish, and he takes loaves of bread, and he multiplies it. He miraculously amplifies that to provide for their sustenance. And, of course, in John 6, where this happens, that's where you have the whole discussion about Christ being the true bread
Starting point is 00:35:00 that comes down from heaven yeah yeah you know you know what's cool is in the feeding of the four thousand there's a there's this little line i actually think that it's the reason that feeding of the four thousand is even included in the scriptures it's like just for this because it comes after the feeding of the five thousand and you have like john saying that like you know if i wrote like uh if i wrote all the things that jesus did like all the all the world cannot contain the books that sort of thing right um yet some for some reason they decide that the feeding of the $5,000 and the feeding of the $4,000 are going to both appear.
Starting point is 00:35:32 You're going to have both those things. Which seems redundant. One, because it's like the same deal. Like, we get it. Like, you can take some fish and some bread and multiply it. But you're giving it to us twice. Not only that, but after the $5,000, you give us the $4,000 which is like kind of a lesser miracle.
Starting point is 00:35:49 It's not like... If it was like reversed, I would get it. Like, yeah. And then you thought that was impressive? Well, how about this? But no, it's like less. I think the reason it's in there is because of the words jesus says and it says that they were out in a desolate place and then it says that he was moved with compassion so there's the the compact like he's moved on with compassion on the crowd he asked for for if there was any food he's
Starting point is 00:36:19 moved with compassion to feed them lest they perish and that's and that's the language used which is not used in the other ones, but I think you can probably move over to the other ones as well. But I think this is what you see then, that in desolate places where you will surely perish, God is moved with compassion and cares for you. And it becomes really clear in that text. And I don't think that's dissimilar to what you have going on
Starting point is 00:36:44 with the children of Israel in the wilderness, is that not because they deserved it, not because they earned it. I mean, they're grumbling and all this stuff anyway. but god is moved with compassion uh and without him acting they will surely perish um which also ties into like the whole reason behind the incarnation like why why do we why do we end up with the bread from heaven because god for god so loved the world for god was so moved with compassion for the world that he gave his only son or sent bread from heaven that we might not what perish but have eternal i mean i think all this works together yeah yeah it all it
Starting point is 00:37:24 all ties together and then it it all then is contemporized for us i mean these are great stories what happened in the wilderness then and what happened with jesus feeding in the five and the four thousand but the beautiful thing is that then god continues to do the same thing for us In the midst of our whatever wilderness that we're in, whatever we're going through, God is right there having compassion on us as well and feeding us. He has compassion on us in the midst of our physical and our spiritual hunger, and he continues to give us the bread of life. He continues to feed us the manna that comes down from heaven, which is Christ himself. Every Sunday, he draws us to himself in the Lord's Supper, and he feeds us the true manna, his own body, this bread that gives life, this bread that bestows life upon us in order that we might not perish, but have that everlasting life that is found in Christ himself. He feeds us that life as he feeds us himself in the supper.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah, everything is amped up in Christ, where you have in the Old Testament, in the manna, or the bread from heaven, the miraculous bread, as it were, right? And he says this. It was miraculous, and it was the provision of God, but all those dudes still died. unlike the bread that he says that that that represents that that points to which is the true bread for heaven which is his flesh and you eat of that and you will live forever that's the promise that's that's the john 6 promise the john 6 promise is eat my flesh and drink my blood and i will raise you up on the last day and in the greek and in the greek man it's one of my favorite text in the greek like that's so emphatic that that he will like i mean it literally says
Starting point is 00:39:35 like i will do it and not another kind of thing like i mean like he's so emphatic that like the flesh that you eat is the one who's going to raise you up with nobody else is going to raise you up on the last day which is why i am the greater like i'm not just the greater david and the greater joseph i'm the greater manna because all those two people died but you eat this you're never gonna die yeah he who lives and believes in me shall never die that's it and that's it and that's it we're not we're out of time you know i think we're gonna probably have a little bit more to talk about on this uh on the uh on the provision front next week yeah yeah we are in fact a lot of this chapter actually talks about the sabbath as well
Starting point is 00:40:19 So we'll come back and talk about that some more before we move on. All right. Well, guys, thanks so much for joining us. If you're interested in hanging out with us sometime or going to some of the Christ Hill Fast events, go over to ChristHillFast.org, go to the event page. We're going to be in Detroit here. Man, by the time this airs, real shortly, we're going to be in Detroit May 6th. And then me and Chad are both going to be in San Diego in October. and that's something you do not want to miss.
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