40 Minutes In The Old Testament - Episode 84 (Exodus 19:7-20:2)
Episode Date: May 30, 2017Mount Sinai is a freaky place. Darkness, thunder, lightening and threats of death. What are the differences between Sinai and Calvary? Moses brings the words from God to the people. We know them as th...e 10 commandments but is that the best way to understand them? Chad Bird and Daniel Emery Price talk about all this and more in this episode.
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welcome to 40 minutes in the old testament i am daniel emery price and i am kicking it with chad
bird-alicious here we are here we are bro how's it going it's good it's good it's a it's a good
day uh had a good weekend good start to the week so we are doing good down here in texas
right our things in arkansas they're good man the weather has turned it's uh it's all warm out now
i i think it's i think the cold's done uh and it's just gonna get warmer and warmer from this
going on so i like it but right now it's nice man the days are in the 70s sweet sweet yeah i got uh
i got facebook friends up in montana and over the weekend they're posting pictures of snow
oh man and all i can think of is a divine curse has fallen upon the people of montana i refuse
to live anywhere north of like kansas city yeah i'm i'm definitely a south of the nasa dixon line
person yeah maybe sunshine and warm weather yeah you live a little too far south because uh
because it's a little too hot there at times yeah we get our three weeks of winter every every year
it's a little too hot that's about it i know i lived in other than phoenix for a while it's too
hot yeah yeah phoenix is phoenix probably outdoes us well there's no clouds there there's no trees
there it's just you and the sun it's like sinai it is it is american sinai i literally when i
lived there was it was the first time or first portion of my life and the only portion of my
life where part of my morning regimen was like lotioning my body because the sun like sucks all
the moisture out of your body and so as you get ready yeah you just dry up and so you in the
morning you're like lubing your body up and you're putting in eye drops i never had to do that before
it's just ridiculous it's just when you know it's i think that i think the fact that people live in
phoenix and the fact that we built like a huge city there it's just it's sort of like the tower
of babel it's like a huge defiance like we could live here and you're like what are you doing why
would you do that it doesn't matter how bad this section of creation is we're going to
We're just going to be stubborn.
Yeah, it's a –
Phoenix is a total testament to man's arrogance.
Yes, it is.
Geographical theology, right?
That's it.
That's it.
Like, why would you live there?
I mean, it's the same in North Dakota.
It's just some – you know?
You're just trying –
It's a different extreme.
You're just trying to prove something.
One's hot, one's cold, right?
We got this.
Oh, man.
So where are we at in the Old Testament, in Exodus here?
Yeah, yeah. So speaking of the desert, we are in the desert.
We are at the foot of Mount Sinai. That's where we left off last time.
We covered about the first eight verses of chapter 19 of Exodus.
So we're going to pick up there and talk about the rest of the chapter and maybe we'll see, maybe get into the Ten Commandments.
But we're still kind of in the. The introduction to that, because this part is important because it kind of sets the it kind of sets the whole stage, literally, like, you know, you get ready for a play.
You got to get everything set up, got to get the stage just right for the main performance.
So that's coming in Chapter 20. So this is all all preparations for what's about to happen in Chapter 20.
so there it's the third month as we talked about last time since they left since they left egypt
and they finally made it to mount sinai and god begins the chapter by talking about
what he did for for israel he brought them out uh they are his chosen nation he talks about how
they are a kingdom of priest to him and uh they are the ones who are the bearers of his his covenant
and his special treasure among all the peoples of the world.
It's a lot of good stuff, a lot of really grace-centered language there at the beginning
that accents what God's done for Israel and what he will continue to do for Israel
and their special place among all the peoples of the world.
So that's the beginning, all about the first eight verses.
And then we pick up here in verse 9, and the rest of the chapter talks quite a bit about kind of the external stuff.
There's some words here as well, but there's a lot of external stuff happening here that indicates that, without a doubt, that God is coming down upon Mount Sinai, and he's getting ready to deliver the 10 words.
So first of all, we pick up here in verse 9, where God says to Moses that he's going to come in a thick cloud in order that the people may hear when he speaks, when he speaks with Moses, and so that they may believe in Moses forever.
Now, this picks up something that we've heard before back at the Red Sea, where it says, I think that was around the end of chapter 14, 15, something like that, where it said that the people believed in the Lord and in Moses.
So we've heard this kind of language before, where the people believe not only in Yahweh, but they also believe in his mouthpiece, his chosen servant, Moses.
And it's going to become increasingly important because, as we're going to see later in chapter 20, after the Israelites hear God actually speak the Ten Commandments, they're going to beg that speak to them directly, but instead that there's a middleman between them and God.
So they're going to ask that God speak to Moses and then Moses relay God's words to the people.
So Moses is being, as the story progresses, just like Moses is being brought a little bit more and more to the very center of things where he becomes kind of the mouthpiece of God.
What Moses says is what God says.
So God speaks to Moses.
He's going to he's going to come in a thick cloud and people are going to hear God speaking and they're going to believe not just in God, but in Moses.
So that's kind of the way it starts out. And we'll see more of that as the story goes on.
But then with verse 10 and in the verses that follow.
We have the setup. Protecting the what you might call the sacred borders around around Mount Sinai.
So God says to Moses that he's supposed to go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow.
And they're supposed to to wash, wash their clothes and get ready for the third day.
So there's this there's this three day preparation period that that's about to take place.
So they get to Sinai. But God doesn't immediately come down and speak the Ten Commandments.
There's like this time of preparation, both, I guess you could say, externally and internally.
Internally in the sense that the people are simply getting ready.
They're opening their ears and their hearts to what's about to happen.
But externally, things are taking place too.
So they're supposed to wash their clothes.
and a little bit farther down it says they're supposed to refrain from any kind of sexual
contact that's in verse 15 so you got the washing of the clothes the the refraining from sex and
then a third element of this these external preparations is that nobody not even an animal
is supposed to go so close to the mountain that they can touch it so there's like this
i guess you'd call it a fence an invisible fence if you will that's set up around the mountain
no one is supposed to go there except moses and he takes aaron with him so there's you can see
that what's taking place here at mount sinai is really what you might call a
a foreshadowing of what is going to take place afterward at the tabernacle because as many
people have pointed out at this point mount sinai and the surrounding area becomes a a replica
of the tabernacle and and later the temple the tabernacle you basically have uh you have three
different areas if you will you've got the holy of holies which is where only you know the ark of
the covenant is and only the high priest can go in there once a year so it's the most sacred place
the holy of holies and then outside of that you get the holy place and the priests can go in there
they daily go in there and they take care of the candles and they offer prayers and once a week
they eat the show bread that's in there that kind of stuff so a few more people can go there
and then outside of that courts around the the tabernacle where everybody can go all the israelites
can go and you can kind of see that here as in the rest of the narrative so the top of mount sinai
where only moses can go that's the holy of holies that's where god is in fact it says later that
He's on the top of Mount Sinai.
So the top of Mount Sinai becomes the Holy of Holies.
And then some of the people later in the story are allowed to go up part of the mountain.
That's kind of like the holy place.
Else is outside of this area.
They're not supposed to go in there and under penalty of death.
In fact, it says if if an animal or a person tries to touch the mountain or go up on the mountain.
than they're to be stoned or shot through with arrows.
They're not even supposed to be touched.
They're supposed to be just executed on the spot.
So we see at Mount Sinai then kind of this beginning stage,
what we're going to see later with this idea of sacred space,
what's often called spheres of holiness,
where you have increasing degrees of holiness
the closer and closer you get to the Holy of Holies.
So Mount Sinai is already showing us what's going to happen later at the tabernacle.
So you can kind of think of the tabernacle then as a perpetuation of Mount Sinai, because everywhere that the tabernacle goes and then later when the temple is built, where the temple is at, that is the ongoing presence of God in the Holy of Holies, just like he was present at Mount Sinai at the beginning of the covenant.
covenant uh formulation yeah what you know what what's interesting about sinai is i mean sinai
becomes pretty synonymous um with the law you know um in the new in the new testament we see
we see the you know paul use uh use sinai and use even moses as a as a as a type of the law right
and uh i i think that what you see in all in all of that besides the obviously the correlation of
the temple but even the temple in a lot of ways um this is god unmediated right this is this is not
uh christ for you it's just god with his law and uh and you can't go there and you can't touch
you can't approach him you can't touch it that's how it is without christ there's no there's no
approaching this there's no there's no lay in your hand to this um and i think that you see that
like vividly there where you even get too close to this thing and the penalty is death you know
and we see over and over again in scripture that that nobody can see god uh no one can stand in
his presence this kind of thing um and so i think that within sinai uh you do see this um this sort
of this is how it would be always apart from Christ.
We'd just all be screwed.
Yeah, exactly.
And that, if everybody's familiar with the New Testament book of Hebrews
and kind of the overall message of that,
that's exactly the main point of Hebrews.
It talks about how the way into the holy place,
while the tabernacle was still standing the way into the holy place had not yet been disclosed
right you still had these barriers you had uh the veil between the holy place the most holy place
you had all kinds of restrictions as to who could go where and then the book of hebrews says that
because christ has come because god has assumed our humanity and not only that but as our high
priest has gone into the holy of holies not with the blood of animals but with his own blood
then he has opened up the way for us because he is god for us so that the way into the most holy
place has now not only been been disclosed to us but as hebrews says we can not with fear and
trembling but with boldness and confidence we can enter into the most holy place through the blood
of through the blood of christ so everything changes everything changes with the coming of
god in the flesh and christ is our high priest was restricted in the old testament is now not
only opened up but it's like thrown open so that we have access to the place that only the high
priest had access to and that only once a year and never without blood but now you know like
happens in the gospels the veil is rent in two between the holy place and the most holy place
and the door is thrown open so that through christ we enter into that place that was
formerly restricted only to one guy yeah i mean this is why uh for sinners you can uh sinners can
just run to calvary but with sinai there is no like come all you weary are you downtrodden and
broken and sinful come to sinai yeah no no no that's no yeah it's the exact opposite it's like
come near sinai touch it and you're dead yes yeah you're gonna be you're gonna be stoned
or you're going to be shot through.
Even your goats and your sheep and your cattle.
If one of them wanders too close to the mountain, they're dead.
Yeah.
I mean, you see here the great contrast.
I mean, this is the extremity of the law,
and then we see the extremity of the gospel in its opposite.
Yeah, and that's really what we're driving at,
is that you do then see between Sinai and Calvary
like this stark contrast between the law and the gospel
where the law does not allow you to...
It's basically saying this,
that you cannot lay your hand to the law and survive.
Yeah, not as sinners.
Yeah, it's deadly.
And in that way, it's the total opposite of the gospel,
which is which is life-giving you know the contrast could not be clearer or greater than
what we see just even i guess you could say uh you know structurally architecturally between the two
because what we have in the old testament you have walls you have barriers you have veils you
have threats you have all these various spheres that are open only to certain people the sacrifice
takes place out in the open it's not inside some you know secluded chamber it's right outside the
gates, a public sacrifice that takes place to which not only like the high priest or the priest
or even just the Israelites, but every person, Jews and Gentiles, slaves and free, lepers and
people who are perfectly healthy, everybody is invited to enter into the holy place because of
the, the openness of, of grace and the gospel.
Yeah. Yeah. Right on. So, uh, what happens next?
So, uh, we've got this three day preparation. Everybody's getting ready.
And, uh, verse 16, it says what happened on the third day.
And this was, this was one of those, you know, I think we all have,
we all have moments, uh, in our, in our lives where things happen.
Like you, you know, you'll say, I'll never forget when such and such happened.
Well, this would have been a day when the Israelites would never forget what took place next, just because it was so incredible what happened when God comes down on Mount Sinai.
This kind of reinforces what we were just talking about, because you don't see like some, oh, I don't know, some outward natural manifestation that communicates like love and grace, but you see the exact opposite.
you've got thunder you've got lightning flashes you got this thick cloud you got this loud trumpet
sounding so you got all this uh stuff happening in creation when god clothed as it were in all
of this stuff like this is his this is his clothing of creation that he puts on when he
descends upon mount simon so you don't see god but around him you hear all the stuff surrounding him
and that's god coming down upon the top of mount sinai and as if we didn't need to be told this
it says all the people who were in the camp yeah you bet they trembled i mean who wouldn't be this
was scary stuff and so you have moses bringing brings the people out of the camp to uh to meet
god it says they so they stand there at the foot of mount sinai and i kind of picture them all like
there you know like well how close can we get because nobody wants to die right so like keeping
keep a little bit of distance there while all this stuff is happening in creation
sinai it's smoking like it's on fire this is the lord descended upon it in fire so you got the
whole mountain i it's kind of a uh it's almost the i get the impression it's like a combination
of one of these huge thunderstorms
where you got lightning flashing and thunder clapping.
It's a combination of that and a volcano.
If you kind of picture all of those,
you picture a volcano
where there's this huge thunderstorm around it.
It's like that
because you got smoke coming out of the mountain
like it's on fire,
but you also have thunder and lightning.
You got this blast like the blast of a trumpet
and the whole mountain is shaking.
so i guess you can add an earthquake earthquake in there too so this i mean this is this is going
all out here there's nothing in in creation that's not in some way involved involved in what's
happening here the the sound of the trumpet gets louder and louder moses speaks god answers him
with thunder it says the lord came down on mount sinai to the top of the mountain and then god
calls moses to the top of the mountain this is kind of a funny back and forth here so all this
is happening the people at the foot of the mountain god says to moses come up the mountain
and so moses goes up and then as soon as he gets up there god says to moses hey go back down
and warn the people one more time that they're not supposed to come on the mountain not supposed
to try and ascend the mountain to take a look at me and tell the same thing to the priest that
everybody is supposed to stay where they are and moses moses tries to get into an argument with
god this is verse 23 he says look look god the people can't come up because you warned us you
said set bounds around the mountain and consecrate it but god is adamant he's like nope go down again
And tell the priest and the people not to break through to come up here.
Bad things happen to them.
So Moses has to go back down the mountain.
He's getting his exercise that day.
He goes back down the mountain to the people.
And he relays this warning to them.
So God wants to make sure they know that they are not allowed to break through, to come up the mountain.
that only moses and he says he takes aaron with him only they are allowed back to the top of the
mountain so that's that's everything that's taking place to lead up to to chapter chapter 20 happens
at mount sinai is it's kind of interesting it is uh picked up again a lot later in scriptures
uh well at lots of different places but what we're talking about specifically with all these kind of
you know, pyrotechnics going on around Mount Sinai is picked up in my favorite, just Hebrews,
big, big surprise there. It's the most Old Testament of the New Testament books.
But in Hebrews chapter 12, it references all this stuff that's happening at Mount Sinai,
the thunder, the lightning, the trembling, the shaking of the mountain, the shaking of the
people all of this and i'm in i'm in hebrews 12 uh 18 and he's the writer to the hebrews is uh
is addressing the people and he's going to contrast two mountains and this kind of fits
in what we were talking about earlier dan about the difference between law and gospel and here's
what he says it's one of my favorite parts of hebrews it says for you have not come you have
not come to a mountain that may be touched into a blazing fire into darkness and gloom and whirlwind
into the blast of the trumpet and the sound of words which sound was such that those who heard
begged that no further word should be spoken to them for they couldn't bear the command if even
a beast touches the mountain it will be stoned and so terrible was the sight that Moses said
I am full of fear
I mean that's
That's quite the
Image so that's not the
Mountain he says that you've come to
That was the mountain that the Israelites came to
That was full of
All of this all of these
External indications
Of
A God that you don't want to mess with
Because it's the God of the God of the law
So he says all of that
And then he transitions to talk about the mountain that you've come to.
He says, but you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels, to the general assembly and the church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, to God, the judge of all, and the spirits of righteous men made perfect.
and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than
the blood of Abel. Like I said, it's one of my favorite passages because this beautiful, beautiful
contrast between the two mountains. So you haven't, you Christians, he says, haven't come
to a mountain that's going to condemn you, that's going to instill you with fear and with
trembling, but instead you've come to a completely different mountain. You've come to Mount Zion,
you come to the heavenly jerusalem you come to jesus you come to his sprinkled blood that speaks
better than the than the blood of abel so that's the great contrast between the old and the new
covenant and the old covenant you came to this place of fear and trembling the place which in
which the law condemned you but now in christ you come to the new covenant you come to mount
zion you come to this place where there is forgiveness where there is life and salvation
and healing and notice he says you he didn't say you you will come this isn't some kind of
future prospect he says you have come you've already arrived so in christ you've already
come to mount zion you've already come to the heavenly Jerusalem you've already come to this
healing sprinkled what you get in the gospel yeah that's good that's good i feel i feel like people
within christianity a lot of times are always trying to get you to go check out that other
mountain though like yeah they want you yeah go back to it right they're like hey zion's good
let's go back to mount sinai you know remember like i bet you like let's go let's go uh you
what you really got to do is uh you should try to touch it just touch it that's yeah that's what it
is always trying always trying to get me to to climb that that thing man like let's get to the
top man like there's all these thunderings and lightnings and lava and hurricanes on there let's
go yeah yeah well that was the uh that was where the galatians wanted to take a trip right yeah so
they they visited mount zion and it was great you know it's kind of like a a getaway and that's
vacation you get you get rejuvenated you get started with that good news of zion and and
the gospel but then you you hightail it right back to mount sinai you're going right back under the
law the old adam likes to be yeah yeah yeah yeah that's unfortunate this this idea of the gospel
of mount zion kind of getting you going empowering you uh to then run back to mount sinai
where you know the real christian life happens as you are obedient and as you live this principled
life and as you strive for holiness and all of this all of this stuff which is nothing more than
a way of saying that the the purpose of the gospel is the law where it's the exact opposite
yeah all serves the gospel yeah yeah yeah you you end up making the the law the end of the gospel
uh or the or you know the end of christ as if that's that's his ultimate goal is that
so you go to zion where you pick up your climbing gear and then you head back and you're like all
let's go yeah yeah as if as if somehow becoming a christian now is going to enable you to climb
to the top of mount sinai and and to be to be the person that is going to be uh obedient and and god
pleasing on his own yeah it's the it's it's the ongoing uh sad false teaching that inflicts and
has afflicted christianity from the beginning this this drive to push people back under the
law once more yeah all right so uh that uh that got us to uh to the end of chapter 19
all right here we go there we go a few minutes left right it's gonna get real now yeah we have
10 minutes left yeah we have 10 minutes left okay all right so chapter 20 uh my goodness this is a
This is a hugely important section, so there's a lot of different ways that we can approach the Ten Commandments part of the day.
We'll pick it up next week.
So I think maybe just to start out, maybe talk about some kind of bigger questions related to the commandments, and we'll get to more of the specifics as we go on.
A couple of interesting things that I think are worth pointing out when you think about the Ten Commandments is, first of all, that probably most people know this, that there's a lot of different ways of configuring the Ten Commandments.
I mean, you've got, for instance, in the Jewish faith, first of all, they don't talk about Ten Commandments.
they talk about the 10 words
so that, and I should say that
to begin with I guess, the Bible
interestingly, the Bible never has
the phrase the 10 commandments
in Exodus 34
in Deuteronomy 4
and in Deuteronomy 10
I think those are the three places
they're referred to
as the Aseret
Hadavarim, which in Hebrew
is the
10 words
uh the 10 sayings the 10 speeches something like that literally the the 10 words so that's and
that's what the the jewish faith calls them so they don't think of them as as 10 commandments
but as 10 words and one of the reasons they do that is not just because that's the language of
scripture but because for the jews the first word is really not a commandment at all so here's how
this chapter starts out it says then god spoke all these words saying i am the lord your god
who brought you out of the land of egypt out of the house of slavery so that's the first two verses
and that's what the jews understand to be the first word what we might call the first the first
commandment so for them it's not a command at all instead it's a declaration their god
that he is the one who has redeemed them from slavery
and has brought them out of the land of Egypt.
So it's kind of, it's always been attractive to me,
only the sense that before God speaks any word
prohibiting or requiring anyone to do something,
he first of all identifies himself, I am Yahweh,
Secondly, he doesn't just say, I am Yahweh, but he adds this element of faith to it.
He says, I am Yahweh, your God.
So he is for them, and they then are connected to him by faith.
That's the impact of that your word.
So he's God for them, and then by faith they confess that, yes, he is our God.
And not only that, but he goes on then to say what he's done for them.
so he identifies himself there's that word of faith and then he says this is what i've done
i've redeemed you i freed you from slavery in egypt so that's the first word for for the jews
and then they have the other the other nine commandments or in their tradition they would
say nine words so that's the jewish way the uh for those who who aren't uh either roman catholics or
lutherans probably the the way that you learn the commandments is that the first is you shall know
over the gods and the second is not to make graven images right right and the other rest
of the commandments for uh roman catholics and for and for lutherans we divide it up differently
uh we understand uh the first few verses all talking about the first commandment and then
we uh our ninth and tenth commandments divide up the coveting between not coveting a neighbor's
house commandment 9 and not coveting anything else belonging to the neighbor as as a commandment 10
i am of the opinion so all of that just to say there's lots of different ways to number them
yeah i'm of the opinion that any way you cut them up it's weird anyway any way you divide it when
you like it's to me i might get in trouble here but uh to me when i when i actually when i actually
look at them um i only see nine really because i think i think we rightly combine what what most
people in most protestants would divide up into two i think those those are rightly put together
but then but then at the back end of that you're like yeah it's weird that this is divided up into
so so and i think that it really doesn't matter that much unless um you take the graven images
thing and uh and isolate it from worship and then and get into something weird there that then you
can get then you get weird the other the other thing is that i think when when we just decide
that these are commandments and uh and one of the reasons why i agree with you and i actually don't
like the the term 10 commandments that much it's not because don't hear me it's not because i'm
against being commanded to do something or like god requiring or demanding something of me it's
not that uh i think that when you say when you when you reduce this down to simply commands
you lose um the eschatological promise contained in them so you you take the word shall
and decide that it only means that that you are to do this only means must must right as opposed to
um where it certainly does mean that like like do this uh but then it also is saying this is
also descriptive of like of of what what we will be like too so and if you just pick one say um
thou shall not um covet in one sense it's i must not covet it but as well it's also true is that
the day is coming when i shall not covet because of the reality of the first thing that we said
because god is my god because because that's true and he has delivered me from the ultimate pharaoh
and the ultimate uh you know egyptian army and and you know which is sin death and the devil
because that's true because he is my god the day is coming when i shall not fill in the blank uh
that will be true of me um and so don't hear me say that it's not it's not uh condemning me at
the same time and saying like hey this is what this is what god requires of his creation and man
it is but it's also what he will bring about which is why why 10 words is better yeah it's almost
like you could preface each commandment by adding two words and it brings in that uh that eschatological
perspective gospel perspective you're talking about so if you add the words in christ at the
beginning of each commandment that brings it in right so in christ you shall have no other gods
In Christ, you shall not covet. In Christ, you shall not steal. Because in him, his obedience, perfect lifelong obedience to each of these commandments, his keeping of the commandments becomes our keeping of the commandments.
So it no longer is something that we must do, but instead it's something that Christ has done for us.
and like you said earlier of course the the commandment remains these are things that tell
us what we must do and must not do that is the law but from the perspective of the gospel when
you attach in christ to the beginning of these commandments then they become descriptions
of who we are not in ourselves but who we are because of what christ has done for us
and then reckoned to us by faith.
So you've got that double aspect going on with the ten words, as we'll call them.
Yeah, I think about when God talks, you know, how stuff happens.
That's typically how it goes.
When he says, let there be light, there is.
And even when he talks to people, so when he says, rise up and walk,
there's there's there's a doing there it sure looks like a guy got up and walked
right um but uh but there's a there's a like this is god is causing this to happen through his
through his word and so when god says you shall not bear false witness while he is telling me
that like this is something i must not do he is also going to make that happen
he is going to make me one who does not bear false witness he is going to achieve that like his
his word has power i shall i shall not bear what false witness that he's going to bring that about
this is also why he's like the author and perfecter of our faith going back to hebrews
your favorite book yeah yeah yeah that's perfect so you got to look at him you got to look at the
commandments well lots of different ways but certainly in those two main ways it's not only a
Prohibition or requirement
But also from the perspective
Of their fulfillment
In Christ
Where like you said
It's kind of what in linguistics would be called
I think a performative
Like the words perform what they say
That's what God does
So what he says he makes happen
And that's what he has done for us
Done for us in Christ
That's right and that's it man
We're out of time
We gotta wrap it up
next week we'll be
working our way through these guys
and I'm sure that'll be
fun. We'll figure out
what it is that God is
going to deliver
to the people
of Israel and to us.
So come back next week. Guys, thanks
for hanging out. Chad,
we'll see you then. Alright man, we'll see you then.
Thanks.
© transcript Emily Beynon
