40 Minutes In The Old Testament - Episode 99 (Exodus 30:11-31:18)

Episode Date: October 6, 2017

Chad and Daniel talk about the temple tax, why it was instituted and what Jesus says about it later. How do all the things going on in the tabernacle serve to comfort us now? A couple of guys with odd names are given the gift of being craftsmen and why does more talk of the Sabbath come in here? They discuss all of that in this episode. Have a listen!  

Welcome to episode 99 of 40 Minutes in the Old Testament. I'm Daniel Emery Price, joined by Chad Byrd. 99 episodes on the wall, Chad. Take one down, pass it around. That's right. You know what that means? It means we've got to be close. We've got to be close to the live recording.

That's it. The Here We Still Stand conference. That's it. This is the last time we're going to do this before we do one live. So there'll be a, I mean, depending on when we release that one. but, uh, the next one will come out, uh, will be the, the live, the live hundredth episode. So that'll probably, you know, I don't know, that'll probably happen about two weeks or so, uh, from when this airs. So, uh, yeah, so this is the, this is the last one we're going to record.

And then, uh, and then we're off to, uh, to San Diego. Uh, if you want to come, you could still do that. It's, uh, you're, you're running out of time. Uh, you're about two weeks away from the time this airs from the event but if you still were feeling frisky you can definitely still do it there are uh there are a few tickets left uh we're actually doing a sale forget the the code 40 ot forget that code uh until the thing sells out you can go for 99 which you're going to eat more than 99 with the food of this thing you can go for 99 by using the code sellout because we know you want to be a sellout me and chatter sellouts totally uh we just own it and uh you can be that with us and i just use that code 99 bucks you can come i mean

especially if you're if you're in california or arizona or somewhere within driving distance uh and you want to do it come on uh you can still get a you can still get a room uh you can you can still get a conference ticket uh for a little while here so we'd uh we'd love to see you just go over to here we still stand.org and uh you can do it there chad where are we at in the in the 99th episode of the old testament all right so uh 99 finds us in chapter 30 of exodus uh we're gonna we're gonna cover some territory today because a lot of this is this stuff that we can we've either talked about or that we it just kind of summary kind of material so i don't know how many episodes that we've had on the tabernacle uh but uh this is going to bring us to the conclusion of that

and i was looking ahead and uh that well the next three chapters were which are all about the golden calf that's that's a complete unit but then after that uh you've got a number of chapters which we will basically skim through because if you uh if you have good memory you'll you recall that when we first started talking about the tabernacle, I mentioned that basically you have the layout here where the whole tabernacle is described as to how it is to be built. And then you have this golden calf parenthesis. And then you have several chapters where it tells of how the tabernacle was built. So there's a lot of repetition in those final chapters of Exodus, which we will not simply go through the same way that we've gone through these these chapters here so anyway that's

a little bit of a of a look forward as to what's what's coming up in the rest of the book we have been talking about the tabernacle uh since chapter 25 we've covered uh all the uh the general structure of it the materials the the priest who serve there the the priestly clothing that's to be worn and we're getting right toward the end of it now we've moved outside the tabernacle and really the only the only piece of of uh furniture using that term quite broadly here the only item sacred item that we haven't talked about is what's coming up next uh that'll be uh beginning with with verse 17 and that's this bronze vessel the labor of bronze that is outside inside the tabernacle, between the altar and the tent itself. So we'll get to that in just a

moment. That's the last sacred item. There's a few verses that we didn't cover last time that I just want to say a couple things about, and that is the offering that's taken. So in Exodus 30, beginning with verse 11, it says that Moses is to take a census of the people, find out how many there are and then a collection is to be taken from them it's uh it's called a half shekel and keep in mind i think i've said this before but it's to reiterate it here that when we talk about a shekel or a half shekel these are not coins i mean i know in when i when i read that my mind immediately goes to you know some kind of coin a gold coin or silver coin or something like that. But coins come much, much later in Israel's history. At this point, when

we talk about a shekel or a half shekel, it's talking about a unit of weight. So this is so much gold or so much silver that is weighed out to where it equals a half shekel. So what Moses is to do is more or less to count everybody in Israel and then to collect from them a certain amount of gold or silver and then this is to be used in the construction of the tabernacle so this is a uh a one-time one-time contribution in order to not so much to finance this i mean that's what when we think of taking a collection we think of financing but actually the reason the gold and silver is collected is not to like buy materials keep in mind they're in the middle of desert they're not going to really doing a lot of trading and purchasing not going to run down the

lows and buy some tuba floors or something uh rather this material is actually used in the construction itself because you have a lot of gold objects you have a lot of silver objects and so we read much later on a few chapters from here that uh the gold and silver which was collected was used for example to make sockets for the doors so this half shekel that's collected is to be melted down and used in the actual construction of the tabernacle and all the various parts of the tabernacle. So, this was, as I said earlier, this is a one-time collection. Now, this actually, interestingly, comes up in the New Testament. In Matthew 17, if I can find that right quick. In Matthew 17, we have this interesting story

where Peter comes to Jesus and it says that some people came to Peter and it says these are the ones who collected the two droplet tacks. So these are people that went around Israel and they were to collect each year a contribution for the temple. And the justification for this was this passage from Exodus that we're looking at. So this was the annual temple tax, which at the time of Jesus was a two drachma tax. And so they come to Peter and they say, does your teacher not pay the two drachma tax? And Peter says, well, yeah, he does.

And so he goes to Jesus and they have this conversation about the paying of this tax. And this is where we have this real, real, real strange story where Jesus tells Peter, hey, go out to the sea, you know, throw your line in the water, throw your hook in the water. And the first fish that you catch open its mouth. And in that in that in that fish's mouth, you're going to find a coin or coins, whatever it is, that pays the temple tax. And presumably that's exactly what what Peter did. It's a rather odd story, but this rather odd story from Matthew 17. actually originates all the way back here in Exodus when they had this tax, this census,

and this collection that was taken in order to fund, not really so much to fund, but to build the tabernacle back in the wilderness. That's a little bit of a background to that story from Matthew 17. You know, what's interesting about that story is, you're saying how it's a one-time kind of tax, And it wasn't really supposed to be implemented over and over and over and over again. And Jesus says as much when he says, like, hey, you know, you're going to pay this tax.

And he tells him this little story about, like, from whom do kings take tax? The subjects are their sons. And he says the subjects. And he basically says, well, I'm the son of God, and you're with me, so the sons are free. so he essentially says like no you don't have to pay it and neither do i uh really nobody has to pay this but in order to not give offense go to the sea and find this fish and there's there's a coin in there and uh and so the the example he uses uh there or what what what he's doing there is uh basically saying there's gonna be a lot of things that we're gonna offend these guys with

uh but this isn't really one of them like this is like this it's not a hill we're gonna die on just just so it's an interesting thing uh where he says yeah just pay it so you don't so you're not unnecessarily offensive uh but do you have to like is it sinful to not pay this yeah yeah yeah it was a i don't sometime during the second temple period so sometime during the centuries leading up to christ is when they started doing this uh you know the temple was a huge huge financial and religious operation in uh in israel so they had to you know they funded it so this was a forced collection just kind of imagine you know the deacons of your church showing up at your door every year with an offering plate you know all right you need to hand over this year's

uh this year's offering for the the building upkeep that's kind of what was going on here they had these special collectors went around doing that yeah and it's weird too because i mean you know jesus at this time wasn't a he couldn't say he wouldn't say he's a huge fan of everything going on at the temple no no not i mean he wasn't yeah not not so much a uh a fan boy he had a few criticisms let's say a little bit maybe his most notable criticism happens at the temple where uh you know where he's fast or he's fashioning a whip and uh flipping over tables and that sort of stuff you you really never see jesus like that ever again like that's sort of a unique moment in jesus life where he flips out over the way that they're using the temple and this is

because the temple has its uses it's not that it's not that jesus is opposed to the temple obviously he hadn't died yet he's pro the sacrificial system and everything else that's going on there until he becomes the sacrificial lamb obviously

but he's pretty much opposed to everything else going on there and a lot of it has to do with surprise surprise money and how they're taking it from people and what they're using it for you definitely said that old testament side of jesus coming out there because uh over and over in the old testament

you have uh you have yahweh being zealous about his temple and uh ezekiel especially you have these these uh fantastic episodes centered around the temple where uh you have this just horrendous idolatry taking place in the temple all around the temple and uh finally god just leaves he vacates the premises and if the Lord's not home it's not the Lord's home so the temple ceased to be the temple it ceased to be the sanctuary

because the Lord was no longer there and after that of course it was destroyed but you see that same kind of zeal for the Father's house in that one time episode of Jesus uh acting like a uh like a wild man in the temple turning over tables and making whips and doing all they did that day yeah yeah you you may have seen that meme where it says uh wwjd and it says well taking a whip and uh flipping over tables has to be within the realm of possibility

so all that uh uh the uh the collection for the upkeep of the temple and uh that has it that has its roots here in exodus so that is uh that takes us through verse 16 17 through 21 is this bronze vessel for washing that i mentioned at the beginning of the the podcast so it's made out of bronze and i don't i don't think i've mentioned this before but i have talked about how there's a uh the farther you get from the epicenter of holiness from the holy of holies then there's like these gradations of holiness so the farther out you go the less holy the space is you have this also indicated in the use of metals because in the holy of holies everything is gold there's no silver there's certainly no bronze there's only the best of

the best in the holy of holies so everything is gold but the farther out that you get from that epicenter of holiness the the the lower quality of metals that you use and so you have on the outside of the tabernacle you have an altar but it's not an altar of gold that's an altar of bronze now the incense altar that's right outside the curtain of the holy of holies it's gold so you have gold close to the holy of holies bronze that's used a little bit farther out that's part of these gradations of holiness uh that you have here so this this uh this tub if you want to call it that this vessel that's used for washing is it made out of gold because it's not inside the tabernacle. It's not in the tent itself. It's outside. And so it's made out

of bronze. So it's a step down in the quality of the metals that are being used. And this has a practical purpose, but it also has a theological purpose, as most of the items in the tabernacle do. The practical purpose is it's helpful for cleaning up. You know, being a priest was kind of a dirty job i mean one of the one of the things that priests had to do was was butcher animals they had to handle blood and and meat and no doubt they got ashes on their hands every once in a while so they had they had dirty hands because of the the uh because of their vocation like they couldn't walk into the whole into the holy place with uh with hands like that and so before they stepped into the tent before they went into that that outer room the holy place they would wash

their hands and that's what this bronze vessel was for they washed their hands and they washed their and they washed their feet anytime they went into the tent of meeting they'd wash their hands and their feet so it served that practical purpose but the flip side of that is that there was also a theological purpose, because no one could enter into the presence of God without being washed. And we hear a clear, not even so much an echo of this, it's a direct reference to it in the book of Hebrews, because when the book of Hebrews talks about us in Christ, our great high priest, entering into God's presence in the heavenly holy of holies, it says that our bodies have been washed so our hearts are sprinkled clean and our bodies are washed with pure water

hebrews says as we enter into the the holy of holies in christ well that's what this in uh in the in the days of the tabernacle was pointing forward to that you don't enter into the presence of god without first being washed now the priest didn't it wasn't like this big basin they jumped into they just washed their hands and their feet but their hands and their feet were uh that were washed in lieu of their their whole body but the gothic paper says that we've been we've been washed so that we can enter into the into the holy of holies itself so what you see in exodus 30 17 through 21 is a preview of baptism so we enter into the presence of god as those who have been washed we've been sanctified we've been cleansed by the word that has clothed itself with water

to wash away our uncleanness to sanctify us for entering into the presence of god as those who are priests in our great high priest christ so that is the that's the last bit of uh of sacred furniture to cover uh is is the bronze bronze basin do you know you know this is maybe uh a little bit connected um i'm preaching through romans right now and at one point uh in romans the end of romans 15 paul mentions he talks about um you know being a being a missionary to the gentiles and this sort of thing and he talks about those who have not heard will hear and those who have not seen will understand this kind of thing um he's quoting uh isaiah uh and in that same passage in isaiah 52 it makes uh he doesn't quote this which i

always i sometimes i think it's funny the parts of the parts of verses that um people quote and there's parts that have to do with what they're saying that are in the same verse uh that they leave out for some reason um well i'm like keep going paul keep going tell them where it is But in that same chapter, in Isaiah 52, it talks about how God is going to sprinkle, clean, or purify many nations. I remember that, yes. And so Paul doesn't mention that in that text, but it's in there in reference to the Gentile world, to the people who are outside the house of Israel. and so and that all that sprinkling language kind of originates here but it's used not just you know not just peter using it but it's used the prophets use it it's used all over the place

um you know it's using paul uses it again in ephesians and this kind of stuff but uh this this is set up here this like sort of sprinkling you clean but there is uh the prophetic voice of the prophets uh and in this case particularly isaiah talking about how that will then that will that will expand uh with christ and and not just include the people of israel but that he's going to sprinkle all the nations of the world clean um in the coming of christ which is good news for non-jewish folk like me yeah yeah we've been we've been grafted Yeah, that was I mean, that was a that was a struggle for the early church. We we in our time really don't think about that.

But one of the greatest issues in the early church was the inclusion of all these non-Jews Gentiles into the church and all of the very practical questions and issues that arose with that. That is one of the one of the great fruits of the gospel is that it goes out into into all the world. And it passes well beyond the borders of the Holy Land to bear fruit and to give life all over the world, not just in Israel. Yeah, and what's interesting about it is we might just sort of read something like that, like Isaiah saying that or whatever, but Paul knows that in the mind of a Jew, when he hears something like sprinkled clean, he knows what that's talking about. And when that language is used to include those outside the borders of Israel, again, it doesn't sound like anything that crazy to us. But to them, that's like, wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't just – it's not going to – he's sprinkling clean in this nation. But what are you talking about nations?

What are you talking about? What's that business about? Yeah, all you have to do is read a book like Jonah to realize how often the non-Israelites were not only viewed as completely outside of any possibility of being in God's favor, but actually as bitter enemies. So Jonah runs the opposite direction, not because he's afraid. The only thing he's afraid of is the love of God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it is true that all the things said about Israel specifically and set up for Israel specifically within the Old Testament, not just the New Testament, but in the Old Testament, it is prophesied and said over and over again that these things will be expanded out. And so there is, and when you see it with Jonah or you see it with the Pharisees later on and having a big problem with the Gentile world,

there is sort of this, when you actually go back and look at it, you're like, man, this was not, this actually wasn't anything new that was being said. The Old Testament actually includes or prophesies about the inclusion of the whole world many, many, many times. In fact, there is very little said about Israel specifically that later on by some prophet or something isn't mentioned and then expanded and saying, like, the time is coming or whatever, or in the fullness of time, this will happen. Or when God sends his messenger, this will happen. And he'll take something like this, like this being sprinkled clean, something that's uniquely Jewish, and say, like, this thing is going to expand out. that's actually not just some kind of new testament idea that's all over the old testament

yeah you see that we covered this way back in in genesis chapter 12 and but it's a passage that very often people forget about because they become so focused upon what happens in israel later on but in genesis 12 you have the i mean the forefather the patriarch of israel abraham When he's called, God says that he will make him into a great nation. He will bless him and make his name great. But then he goes on to say that in you, all the families of the earth shall be blessed. So already there, focusing on one man, on the patriarch, the very foundation of Israel, God speaks of how the blessing that God gives to Abraham is going to spread out to all the families of the earth.

So even here in this very foundational text of Genesis 12, 3, you have a universal focus of that. This is sort of the, I don't know if you want to call it the Great Commission of the Old Testament, but it has certain parallels here because just as Jesus sends his disciples out into all the world to bring the gospel. so here we have the promise of of god to abraham spreading out to all the world so that they receive a blessing blessing in him so this this universal worldwide jew and gentile inclusion of of people into the kingdom of god was wasn't something that god like you know thought of later he's like oh you know what i really need to include non-jews in this in this as well this was this was in his mind from from the beginning and israel's job israel's calling was to preserve

the promise to preserve uh the the blessings of god and not just to keep them keep it to themselves i mean they were they were to to speak of uh of of yahweh before the nations to sing of before the nations and in certain cases god even sent prophets to to the other nations so uh we i think we do have kind of a a very uh abbreviated view of mission in the old testament because from the very beginning god had in mind the inclusion of all people into his into his covenant yeah yeah that's that's the whole pauline argument is that uh that through the promise of given to abraham which is of course the that the messiah is going to come through him through his line and that he will make him a great nation and that that his promises will be his and that

promise ultimately being christ is going to come through that nation but uh the whole pauline argument is that when when god switches his language and says in you all nations shall be blessed i mean that's it that's a huge part of paul's argument it's just the simple word nations as opposed to nation yeah that plural means everything yeah that plural is the reason you and i are are on this podcast members of a church uh baptized into christ right and uh this this is not just for one particular people on earth god always had in mind the inclusion of all humanity all those who are uh the offspring of adam and eve yeah and i guess i mean to say saying all that to say like when you read then oh you're gonna do this and you're gonna be sprinkled clean

you can go ahead and read yourself right into that text but yeah that's for me it's gonna happen that happened that happened for me and i'm part i'm part of that yeah exactly good stuff all right uh moving on to the rest of the rest of chapter 30 not a whole lot that uh i really need to to say uh you can read that for yourself if you're if you're actually studying this as we go along So 22 through 33 basically talks about the kind of oil that's to be used for purposes of anointing. And they use it for anointing all sorts of things. I mean, it's used to anoint the tabernacle itself and the ark, the various furnishings that are in that. And this makes them most holy.

So it sanctifies, sanctifies them. It's also what's used to anoint Aaron and his sons. And it's only to be used for these specific sacred purposes. So that's the that's the oil that is set apart only for for divine use. That is 22 through 33. And then the chapter ends up with a somewhat parallel section. And this is all about the incense. We talked about incense last episode and how incense was burnt. It was burned there in the holy place on the altar of incense, also called the golden altar before the throne of God. As the visualization of our prayers, our prayers made visible and also our prayers made odorous, something you could smell. So God sees our prayers, he smells our prayers, and he hears our prayers.

So that was the purpose of the incense. and this this incense was also a very special incense it was only to be used there at at the tabernacle no one else was to make it or to use it in other in other contexts so this was a way in which the incense just like the oil was set aside was sanctified only for use in in divine worship and that brings us to the end of chapter 30 it also brings us to the last of the of the particulars about how things are to be made how things are to be used all those particular details that we've been talking about since chapter 25 then we get to 31 and 31 is sort of a a wrap-up kind of chapter so god has told moses how everything is to be built and then in chapter

31 he tells him who is to build it and this is where we we meet a couple of a couple of guys that are going to come up a little bit later in the book as well. One is called Bezalel, and one is called Aholiab. So far, I have not met a Bezalel or an Aholiab, but maybe they're out there in the world. You know, not every biblical name gets reused in baby books. Well, I just haven't had a son yet, once I do. Yeah, once you do, are you going to go with Bezalel or Aholiab?

I'm going to go with both if I have twins. Okay. yeah he's called b and o right yeah that's right for sure so uh it's kind of an interesting interesting description of these these two folks the first one talked about it is is bezalel he was from the tribe of judah and it says that uh god has called him by name and then it says i have filled him this is god speaking i have filled him with the spirit of god in wisdom and understanding and knowledge and in all kinds of craftsmanship to make artistic designs for work in gold and silver and bronze

and in cutting stones and carving wood and all this kind of stuff. In other words, the Spirit has equipped Bezalel, as well as the Holy Lamb, has equipped them with certain gifts, and these are artistic gifts. So everybody has been shaped in a different way by the spirit of God. The spirit of God who was active in creation is also active in the creation of each human being. And as we all know, we're formed differently. And some people have certain gifts and some people have other gifts. And Bezalel was given the gifts of an artist, more or less.

the spirit had filled him with the necessary wisdom and understanding in order to work with all these kinds of materials whether it was whether it was metal whether it was stones whether it was wood he was he was an artisan he was a craftsman probably part architect as well and god had given him this ability as well as a holy up given him that ability in order that they might use that in the service of making and shaping the tabernacle. So you're really going to have three people in charge of the actual construction of the tabernacle. You got Moses, of course. You can kind of think of him as the general contractor, I suppose. Then you have Bezalel and Aholiab, who are the actual ones in charge of doing the work, as well as overseeing

the work of others that they're going to to use in this in this particular enterprise so uh that's a that's what the first half of this chapter is about is how god is going to use uh use them to put their gifts to use in the forming of uh forming of the tabernacle then we're going to wrap everything up here at the end of chapter 31 with a discussion of the sabbath now we have talked about the Sabbath more than once. We talked about it in connection with the Ten Commandments back in chapter 20, and we've talked about it on other occasions as well, so we don't want to spend a whole lot of time talking about it here. Maybe just point out a couple of things that are unique about this section. First of all, it might seem kind of strange that it's actually here to begin

with, because, I mean, we're talking about the tabernacle, I mean, all this really minutiae of how things are to be built, how long boards are supposed to be, what kind of stuff you're going to put in the incense, all these kinds of things. Then all of a sudden, seemingly out of nowhere, you have five verses about keeping the Sabbath. So why is it here? Well, there's a couple of reasons. The first one is, or seems to be, I should say, the first one seems to be that God is reminding his people that, hey, you have a lot of work to do.

you have a whole tabernacle to build all these all this equipment that goes with it uh all this oil and incense put together i mean there's there's gonna be a lot of work to be done but keep in mind as you're laboring at building this tabernacle that you also have a sabbath day so it's fine i mean work monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday work work sunday but saturday The Sabbath, no work because you need a day of rest. So that seems to be one reason it's placed here. There's a second reason, though, which which in my mind is even more even more significant. So in chapter we started this section in chapter 25.

We're ending it in chapter 31. And this whole section is comprised of seven divine speeches. Seven divine speeches is how this whole, the instructions for the tabernacle are divided up. So doesn't it stand to reason, if you think of this in the biblical context, in the biblical structure of things, that the last of these would be about the Sabbath day, the seventh day. And this actually fits within this whole latter half of Exodus, where the tabernacle itself, how it's to be built, the very structure of the instructions for the building of the tabernacle is patterned after creation itself. So over and over, you see Genesis 1 reflected in the latter half of Exodus. So just like God made everything in seven days, made everything in the creation good, made it for the sake of his people, made creation and in it Eden so that he could dwell among his people.

So now what you have in the tabernacle is a new creation, a new Eden, a new place for God to dwell among his people. And that's why everything has to be exactly the way that God wants it to be, Because everything in creation to begin with is exactly the way God wanted it to be. So if you ever wonder, man, you have all these details. Everything has to be just so in the building of the tabernacle. Why is God so fixated on having everything exactly the way he wants it to be? Well, here's your answer. The reason there's so many details in the building of the tabernacle

this because the tabernacle is the microcosm of a good creation in the midst of a creation that has gone into chaos. So just like everything in the original creation had its place, was made just the way God wanted it to be, so the tabernacle now fills that void. We have the fall into sin, everything goes crazy, everything has gone into chaos, but here at the tabernacle, you now have a place where god dwells in the midst of his people where everything is just the way that god wants it to be again so this is a little new creation a little microcosm of god's activity in the world where he dwells among his people where he forgives their sins where he makes them right with him where he is able to do his recreative work among among the israelites so that's uh

that's why we talk about the sabbath here because as the sabbath was the last thing talked about in creation in the creation account so the sabbath is the last thing talked about here in the creation account of of the tabernacle yeah i mean this is one of the reasons even even though we've um sort of moved the lord's day from from saturday to sunday because of the the resurrection uh one of the reasons for that obviously is that the resurrection uh speaks not just to uh our resurrection which of course it does but uh also speaks to the power of god to make things new to bring things from death to life and so in a very real way as we when you assemble when christians gather on a sunday morning uh there's they're looking forward to

the same thing which is the the recreation of all things the restoration of all things of course including themselves and we do this on sunday uh because sunday is the the day that we saw the first uh the first born of the dead right the first the first um example of god saying this what i'm going to do not just for not just for all of you but for all of creation i'm going to do this bring it back yeah you see uh really the the in the resurrection of christ you see the preview of the resurrection of all things you see the preview of this new creation that's going to be bursting forth finally the resurrection of the resurrection of the dead and so you have you have in christ a new sabbath day in his in his resurrection a new a new rest a rest that

that doesn't end so you have you enter into kind of a what you might call an eternal sabbath in christ in his resurrection uh because in him uh is the kind of rest that we need from the burdens of this life and the kind of rest that we need from uh all of the uh the sins which afflict us and it's the kind of rest that we're going to experience fully in the resurrection on the last on the last day so you have a the restoration of all things foreshadowed the resurrection of christ and promised in the resurrection of christ and we partake of that we partake of that rest now as we uh enjoy the the the fruits of his work as he as he gives them to us because of our connection our connection with him so all that is kind of packed into the

sabbath theology of the old testament amen and that is it that is episode 99 chad the next time we do this we're going to do it live uh we're not gonna i don't think we're going to be in exodus we're still figuring out what we're going to do we're going to do something special and amazing i'm sure uh for episode 100 just seems appropriate so uh hey we'll be out there in san diego i hope that a bunch of you are going to be there uh and and attend the i know a bunch of you signed up for the for the the podcast pre-conference stuff and so uh we look forward to meeting you hanging out with you it's okay if you want to be loud and obnoxious during it you don't throw anything at us but uh but you know you can you can make some noise we'll make it make

it lively uh if you if you want to uh come to that if you decide you know what i'm going or you have been planning on going and you're just a massive procrastinator go over to to here we still stand dot org and you can get your registration and get everything arranged over there chad uh i will see you in san diego man all right can't can't wait we'll see you there you