40ish - AI, Burnout & Liquorice Allsorts

Episode Date: June 23, 2026

In this week's episode of 40ish, Nicole and Lauren tackle some of the biggest midlife challenges facing women today: people pleasing, setting boundaries, emotional overload and the reality of being part of the sandwich generation. Alongside the usual chaos, they discuss AI destroying garden dreams, accidental Instagram business strategies, makeup storage meltdowns, Temu temptations and why a packet of Liquorice Allsorts might be the secret to happiness after 40. A listener shares her journey of finally stopping shrinking herself to make everyone else comfortable, while another opens up about the resentment and exhaustion that can come from caring for ageing parents, children and everyone else's emotions at the same time. If you're navigating perimenopause, menopause, midlife burnout, people pleasing, family boundaries, confidence after 40 or simply trying to survive adulthood with your sense of humour intact, this episode is for you. 40ish is the funny podcast for midlife women navigating menopause, perimenopause, ageing, relationships, confidence and everything else life throws at women over 40. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, everybody, jumping on here quickly to remind you about our live podcast on the 5th of July. It's a Sunday. It's at 4 o'clock. It's in Kings Cross London. So you're going to be home for an early dinner. Please come along. We would love to see you there. There's going to be prizes and surprises and us on stage. And we'd love to see your quasi-faces. It's our first ever live show. So we're really excited about it. The link to buying the tickets is just below in the show notes. Just click it. It will take you straight through. It couldn't be easier. And we are so excited to see you there. My father-in-law is selfish, manipulative and takes zero responsibility for his actions or his words. My mother-in-law died three years ago and he has become increasingly difficult, rude and expected since. What is this website? What is it? Why do I need to spin a wheel, pick up three cups, have a cup.

Just get me to the fucking website. You can't get it. Do you know what? I really am not going to be able to cope with. So, oh, my God, we've got to go to number 10 on Tuesday and I don't have an outfit. And that is going to be more than like the petition and it getting signed off and it being in the Sunday times and like changing the law. It's all going to be about the outfit. Hello, everybody. Welcome to Portish. I'm Nicole Goodman. And I'm Lauren Mishcon. This is the podcast where each every week, twice weekly. We challenge and tackle the chaos of 40-something life.

Nicole is up and down, up and down in her chair. My back really hurts. Oh dear, that is very 40 something. We talk about everything midlife, your news, your stories, your dilemmas. We do an extremely average job of trying to solve them. No, we don't. Stop saying that. We don't.

And of course, bringing you our own rubbish nonsense and shit. Yeah, especially last week when you were all off campus. We watched it yet? Maybe. Maybe. No, I haven't. I'm very busy. I said literally we are going to break up if you don't watch this show.

I think that's really mean. It's not me. Just get on it. So we can discuss the love triangles. From the mundane to the ridiculous, we figure out how to survive midlife together one round and crisis and meltdown at a time. Don't forget, you can subscribe on Apple Podcasts

for early access and after you listening across this show and self-care club. And please make sure that you are subscribed and following this show. Just hit the plus sign or the follow button wherever you are listening, whatever platform, it's usually at the top somewhere. And we want to hear from you.

You can email. ask hello at fortiethish.co.uk or you can send us a DM. We love, love, love, hearing from you. And don't forget, we have a live podcast coming up. There are a few tickets available. We would love to see you there. Please, the link is below in the show notes. It couldn't be easier. Just click that link and you'll buy the tickets. And then we get to meet you. And we would absolutely love that. Can I tell you my most Fortunish moment this week? I mean, I feel like I have to listen to your paddle stuff. So you're going to have to have to listen to this, but it's not really about gardening. I actually don't bring you my paddle stuff.

No, I don't. No, I don't. Yeah, you do. You do. Not the ins and outs of the actual game, but the surrounding, I get a lot of paddle info. I have a lot of information about people and a place and a sport that I've known nothing about. It's like a whole world. It's like I'm in the bravo verse of your paddle world. I have like an insight into it, but I've never been there. Oh, like I'm like how I'm, like how I am in Bravo. Yes, exactly like that. Like a voyeur. Yes. I'm in the paddle verse. There's a lot I don't tell you. Do you know that I'm in a tournament this weekend? Yeah, I did know that. No, you didn't. Yes, I did, because Adam was supposed to be a partner, but then Adam's got a thing and he's got to go away. So now you've got another partner and it's a man, but it's okay because he's a good player. Oh, I did tell you that. Yeah, yeah. I didn't make it up. He is a good player. Yeah, you did tell me that. Anyway, my thing is about gardening. It's not actually about the actual gardening.

It's about the fact that I did something very modern and now I like really deeply regret it. I took some pictures of my flower beds because I was feeling there was a bit of sparsity there and I put it into chat GPT and I said, this is my garden. I live in London. This bit gets sun in the afternoon. This is the kind of flowers I like and also I have a lot of snails and slugs. Please let me know what to do. What I didn't know was that the fuck I was.

Your stomach? Yeah. You're very hungry. No. The fucker. You see what you know what you need? What? Banana.

The fucker sketched me out. Which mean the fucker? You asked it to. Yeah, but I didn't realize it was going to actually. What did you think it was going to do? I thought it would just say, buy some Sylvia's and lavender and fill it up. It sketched me out what it could look like. And now I just feel really depressed and really poor.

Let's have a look. Because I would need to spend about 800 quid on fucking. plants for it to look as good as it looks right i'm going to i'm going to show Nicole now showed it this bit and it gave me oh it's very nice basically it just looks fucking amazing yeah but when i and then i said well how much is this going to cost me i mean it was it was so absurd just for one patch of it it was like 600 quid yeah i was like well i can't do this this is like a four grand makeover buying plants and we know that at least 40 percent are going to die.

Yeah. So now I just feel sad and depressed about my garden, which actually is really nice as it is. So I'm just regretting. I'm regretting being modern. So another reason of why we don't like AI. Yes, another reason, because it just makes you feel bad about yourself.

You know? It doesn't make me feel bad about myself. You know, I am, firstly, let's unpack this. Okay? I am very impressed that you use chat GPT. Are you? Yeah. Yeah, because you, you, you,

make such a fucking fuss about it you you you are so like you're so obstinate when it comes to things like i am yeah because i think it just makes when it yeah okay all right okay we don't need the rant dumb people dumber makes dumb people dumber so you're so into the idea that ai is going to ruin the world you might not be wrong by the way um and then you like go on a bit of a stance about the fact that you're not going to use it but actually that's not everyone uses it so use it I know but I just would like my brain so then occasionally when you use it

but you don't use it for things that could be like helpful like with workflow and shit like that that you refuse to engage my own cells well no but like because I can just switch off and get AI to literally apart from wipe my butt do everything for me and I just don't want it to do that not yet

not yet but it can tell you what to cook for dinner and how to cook it Yeah, but I regret it now. I really regret it now because I wouldn't know what I could have if I hadn't put this in. What made you turn to AI? Because I was thinking how can I get information about what plants to put here and that like, I don't know any gardening websites or things to go.

I did actually, to be fair, I did actually go on four different garden centre websites and look at the plants. And I thought, well, I'm not going to buy these plants because I don't know if these plants are going to work in my soil and in that bit of the garden. I need something to tell me. Oh, AI. Anyway, I feel very middle-aged. I don't think that was middle-aged. I think that was very hip. It's very middle-aged. I feel slightly sad about the fact that your garden doesn't look as full and it doesn't have the depth and the height of the arrangement of plants. Yeah, yeah. You're right. What you actually put into chat GPT is very middle-aged. Deeply. But the fact that you used chat GPT, I think, is encouraging.

Okay, encouraging. I'm going to tell you about a funny moment that I came across the other day. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's to do with your Instagram. Oh, right. Yeah. Okay.

When I was posting about the live show and like promoting it and stuff like that, I tagged you to be a collaborator. Yeah. Collaborator. So I went to check on the message and if it had like landed in your inbox. And as it turns out, you have an inquire. button on your Instagram. What?

What's that? What? You have a form. What? On your Instagram. I swear to God. And I knew, I knew you didn't know. I have a form.

So when I saw it, I can't tell you how much it amused me. So I thought, I know. I'm going to fill out the form. No, you didn't. What's on the form? Oh my God. I'm going to see if she actually gets back to me.

You have not. I don't know where it is. What's on the fore? What does it say? Of course you don't know where it is. What does it say? What does it? What kind of questions?

It says inquire here. For what? I don't know. That's what I wanted to ask you. I had to leave my email and my phone number. What? Yeah. No.

Yeah. Are you telling me that somehow I've set this up? Yeah. You obviously have a business. account. No, I don't. I don't. So I don't know what business you're actually touting.

What? Being your business partner, I am curious to know what you want people to inquire for. Okay, gardeners maybe. I don't have a business account. Can I do it again? No, because I won't even know where to find it. I'm going to do it again, right? What are you talking about?

It's so funny. It tickled me so much. Okay. I'm very confused about this. Let's find you. I'm really confused. Lauren. Oh, you've got a new appointment.

You've got an appointment with me. It says. Have I? Here, in my DMs, it says, you have a new appointment on the 9th of June. Well, you've missed it. You've missed it. Oh, I've missed it.

Oh, confirm the appointment. You have a pending appointment. What? What is this? Hold on, I can't find it. So, you're booked. It says you're booked in. What am I booked? What are my appointment with me? I don't know.

What exactly am I booking in for? I don't know. How many appointments have you missed? I'm with you. Could be all these people with appointments. All these big sponsors that want to sponsor the show have come, have tried to get hold of you. You've missed all the phone calls. No, it's only you.

You're the only person that's booked. that's booked in with me. That really took with me. What the hell else am I accidentally doing on the internet? I could have an only fan's account that I don't even know about. We had feedback from Katie. She said, Lauren and Nicole's smiley face. I love the podcast and your chat.

And I wanted to say how much I loved the response you gave to the listener who wrote in saying she shrinks to accommodate others and doesn't prioritize herself. It felt so familiar hearing how she's put herself at the back of the priority list and your empowering response was so refreshing. I would probably have responded with pity, but your suggestions were spot on. I hope she is booked the hair appointment and treated herself. It was a great reminder that we need to save ourselves sometimes,

and we can. And we must. While I'm here, hoggers. I relate so much to Nicole's hogging gym pal. Yeah, he's mad at my pal. He's your mate now. I have just had surgery myself and as a regular gym goer, desperate to get back for my sanity.

There is one guy there who's super sets three machines at any one time for six sets. Oh my God, you don't know what that means. I have no clue what that sentence means. That is absolutely unforgivable. But it sounds annoying. He is there every day. Because of my shoulder, I can only use machines and it's so stressful working around him. His hygiene is also questionable.

So I usually avoid any machine he uses. Give me strength. Stephen Bartlett, too funny. She's referring to my rant about Stephen Bartlett the other week. Wish I lived nearer to come to your live show. Thank you for keeping me company in every season out with my dog, Katie. Oh, Katie, you're very welcome. Thank you, Katie.

He should not be allowed to superset three machines for six sets. Right, a super set. You don't care. I don't have the words to tell you how much I don't care. Super set is when you do two X. Okay. Did you say something? You should care.

Why should I care? Because you should care. This is like me taking you through a mahjong hand and everyone at the table and like what they had. No. You would die of boredom. No. No. No.

I tell you why it's different. Why? Because you find that boring. I don't find mahjong boring. I think I would really enjoy margong. You might. No, I would. Okay.

You're a bit gay, keepy about it, but that's fine. I'm so not. You are a little bit. It's fine. And you play with someone that I know. So, just come. No, I can't. Well, I can't now.

Because you're all a different level. I'm really not on any level. Oh, well, you should be. You should be on a level. You play Marjong all the time. How can you not be on a level? I don't play it up. Excuse me, I don't.

And you sit behind the glass. You think, how can you not have your silver badge yet? If I was able to play more than once every other week, I would be at a better level. But I'm not at better level because I don't get to play that. Because the games are not arranged at times when I'm able to attend. So I'm not good because I don't get to go a lot. If I went every day, I'd be killing it. I'd be a sixth.

Are there levels to Marjon? No. Is that a Playtomic? Yeah, it's on Play-Tomic. That was a paddle gag. Yeah, yeah, I understood. I got it. I dropped it.

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than they do on social? Let me introduce you to fans. And they're here with me on Spotify. Trust me, I know fans. They don't skip. They stay for hours. They don't move on. They manifest.

They're not a demographic group. They're fans. Spotify advertising. You're among fans. Before we dive into a dilemma, as a quick disclaimer, we're not doctors or healthcare professionals. If there is an issue,

you're seriously struggling with. Please contact a qualified expert. Hi, ladies. I would love some advice. I'm in a classic sandwich generation situation. I love my partner and want to support him, but I am increasingly struggling. with his relationship with his dad.

My father-in-law is selfish, manipulative, and takes zero responsibility for his actions or his words. My mother-in-law died three years ago, and he has become increasingly difficult, rude and expectant since. She did everything for him, and I absolutely cannot fill that gap as I have a job and two teenage kids. My brother-in-law does nothing to help,

and I am so frustrated when I'm left to do so much helping, and my partner refuses to set clear boundaries with his dad or his brother. I don't want to make him more stressed or make him feel that he must choose between me and his dad and if I criticize his dad too strongly, my partner shuts down or says I'm being selfish as he's lonely. Without going into too many details, it's been a lot for me recently and it's causing arguments between us. Should I continue to push for stronger boundaries with his dad, even if it risks creating conflict between us? Or should I accept that I cannot change a situation and their relationship and focus instead on protecting my own well-being and preserving our relationship?

Oh, that is tough. I feel like she's asking the same question, though. Should I continue to push for stronger boundaries? Or should I continue to focus on protecting my own well-being? Isn't that the same thing? Well, I think she's saying that when she pushes for him to change how he behaves with his dad, then it causes problems between them. Or so she just shut up and put up and focus just on preserving the relationship,

you know, and keeping her partner happy rather than making him upset when she brings up his dad. The thing is she can't change their relationship or the fact that her father-in-law's difficult and religion all those things. That she can't. The only thing that she can do is have boundaries with

herself around how much she is willing to do and put up with. So difficult. Well it is difficult, yeah. Really difficult. Because it sounds like he needs her and he's leaning on her the father-in-law. Yeah and it sounds like there's a lot of guilt going on there with the son.

sons, you know, that they've lost their mom and that she did everything and now there's this big gap and no one's filling it. Should she be the one having to fill it all? It's tough. That's tough. I think I would really struggle to be in this situation and I would really struggle to find a balance between the two. But I think it is also imperative because you don't need someone being rude to you. No. And you don't need someone who's being disrespectful in your life.

That's never okay, regardless of age or circumstance. You don't really need to put up with that. But you can create a loving boundary. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Can't you? It doesn't mean that you're like, right, I'm not doing anything for you and that's my boundary. That's not really a boundary, is it?

That's just sort of like shutting down to it. But creating a boundary of, okay, well, I'll come over Tuesday afternoon, but then I'm not going to see you until Saturday. I think what I would do is sit down with the partner and the brother. And before you do that, think about what are your limits? What are you capable of doing? So maybe she might say, listen, we will have Dad over on every Saturday lunchtime. And I will do the shopping for him on a Wednesday.

But you guys have got to fill in on Tuesday, whatever, and make a plan so that the load is divided more equal. because she's a short job, she's got kids, she can't be doing everything and it's their dad. Yeah. So I would have a think first about what you can do or what you're willing to do, do those things and then make sure that they are taking up the slack with the rest of it. Oh, that's rough. It is. It's really hard. I think so many people are in this situation.

And I think rather than the conversation being around how difficult the father-in-law is to her husband. and saying, right, your dad's driving me mad or being critical about his dad, so then his back gets put up. I think you're right, have a conversation that is actually helpful, practical, practical, useful for everybody. Right, what can we do? What support does your dad need?

This is what I can give in my week. The rest is on you guys. Yeah. I think that's, yeah. Very good advice, Lauren. That's not average advice. That's very good advice. Thanks, thanks so much.

Good luck. I think you're very much not alone in this situation and it actually sounds really tough. What is your meltdown this week? I mean, it's not sexy. Is it ever? It's not sexy. Okay.

The Royal Mail app, yes, is a wanker. Okay. I literally hate the Royal Mail app. You generally hate parcels and packages. I mean, you like them coming to your house but you don't like having to return them. I really do. To the point where I have.

I've had, I, I can't know all to go into it because. I feel like you were a postman in a past life. I've got such an avoidance to returning packages. I haven't got an avoidance. I do return. No, but you hate it. Who likes it? I just don't care about it.

But you can't always, it's just admin. And like, they didn't send me a QR code. And the very nice royal mailman turns up to my door to pick up the parcel this morning. I'm like, there's no QR code. And he's like, but there must be. I'm telling you there isn't. I printed. off the thing, I showed him. He's like, no, that's not going to work. I said, I know.

I go on the app. He was actually very helpful. We went through the whole thing together. I've even paid 30p. For him to come and pick it up. And that 30 whole pence has gone to waste now. There's no QR code. He's like, oh, just pop into the depot. So I did. I popped into the depot. I hate to go into the depot. The depot is one place I don't. The depot is closed. Oh, it's always closed. Depo's always closed. It's open for like 15 minutes once every other Wednesday. What is that?

I don't know. Why is a depot not open all the time? And there's so many rules. We're like only press the button once. Yeah. If we don't come, it's because we're doing something else. Yeah. But you're always doing something else.

And you have to bring your passport, your driving license. You have to bring the, prove your blood type before we'll give you the package. You have to bring the three emails that we've sent you over the course of the last 20 minutes. Like there's so much. It's so strict. I remember going there to pick something up for Ollie and they were like, well, it's not your name. I'm like, am I going to just randomly queue up in this shit? for half an hour

to pick up a package that I've psychically guessed might be here for this person like I'm only doing this because I know it's here. I will tell you my midlife meltdown

it started so simply and it ended up just someone necessarily complicated I was sort of looking at my makeup what do you store your makeup in? Can I tell you yesterday

I spent two hours in my dressing room sorting out all my makeup We are just one hive mind at this point. Is that what you did? What is your makeup contained in? A makeup thing. Okay, that's not helpful.

What do you mean a makeup thing? It's like drawers. It's like a clear perspex box with drawers. Okay. I also have that, but mine isn't one thing. Mine is like five different things. And also there's like glass pots for brushes, glass pots for eyeliners.

I've got two separate things. got all my brushes in and one's got my makeup in. Okay, I have about five separate things. And I looked at it yesterday and I was like, firstly, this is disgusting. Like, it all needs boiling. And actually, I think it just needs chucking away. Secondly, this is not user-friendly anymore.

You know, like, I need a system. I need a plastic store. So weird that we did, both did this. That is so weird. Anyway, I start looking at makeup organisers online. Oh, no. No, no. I've done this so many times with the kids.

Half an hour later, Max comes into the kitchen. What are you doing, mum? I'm looking for a makeup organiser. He was like, what? I said, I'm looking for a makeup organiser and I'm really struggling to find one. He said, you're getting a person to come over to organise your makeup. I was like, no, no, not a human. Just like a plastic acrylic.

He was like, I really, he's like, yeah, okay, because I thought that was a bit extra. I was like, no, no, I just need plastic. I then end up, as everyone does, accidentally. on Timu. What is this website? What is it? Why do I need to spin a wheel, pick up three cups, have a coupon, just get me to the fucking website. You can't get in.

Anyway, I refuse. And then, right, you spin the wheel, you pick up the three cups. The £400 pounds. And bonus, bonus, bonus, bonus, and you're like, I don't know what's happening. I almost have a panic attack. Then I can't get into the website. No, no, then you get in, right? I never get in.

I get in. Yeah. I get in. Yeah. And then everything's free. Yeah, everything's zero. Zero pounds. And then you're like, this doesn't feel right.

No, there's something wrong here. Yeah. Why are you giving everything away free? So I come off it. That's exactly what happened. That was exactly what happened. And then I know, no, no, no. The same thing on Amazon, the same thing that was three pounds 82 on Timu was like

16 quid on Amazon. Really? Did you buy it? Yeah. I did. Yeah. I did. And do you know what I've got?

And I just arrived this morning. and I haven't opened it, but I'm quite excited. I've got like a white. It's not clear. It's white. Like a carousel. Oh, yeah. Yeah?

I'm quite excited for that. Yeah, they're not good. Oh, don't say that. It was like half my Sunday. I'll tell you why. Why? Because all the compartments are so small that you could fit like a lipstick. I got the extra large.

Okay. So you'll have more small compartments. I bought two carousels. Oh, you brought two. Oh, you really went for it. Yeah. I did. Once my daughter has got on Timo and she did this whole free thing,

she starts putting loads of shit in her basket. I'm like, Daisy, I'm telling you. It's not free. There is something wrong here. This is not free. She goes, mum, it's free. I'm telling you, it's free. She got shitloads and it costs her zero.

Oh, come on. I swear to God. What about the postage? I said to her that is never going to turn up. No. It turned up. No. Yes.

I don't understand. I don't either. I should have got Daisy to do it for me. Well, anyway. How weird is that? That's so odd. Why did that happen to us on the same day? No, I wasn't on T-Mew on the same day. But why were we both doing our makeup? And also, it's not like we've had someone on the show to talk about makeup or it's been on- or it's been on our algorithm or we've even had a conversation about it because we haven't. No, we haven't. No. Okay, that's really weird. So that is my meltdown that it is taken up half my Sunday.

Timu. And I don't even know if this stuff's going to be okay. And I'll have to let you know next one. I'm telling you, all the compartments are too small. I really hope not. We had a listener meltdown this week. It's from Julia. Hi, Lauren and Nicole. I think this is less of a midlife meltdown and more of a deep 40-ish moment.

But it's still allowed in this section, isn't it? If it's a deep 40-ish moment, she can have it here. She can have her deeply 40-ish moment wherever she goddamn well likes. Okay, she said I feel compelled to share. Today, I bought myself a packet of licorice, All Sorts.

I love liquorish all sorts. Me too. And I was embarrassingly excited to discover the contents were catastrophically unbalanced. Instead of the usual assortment, it was packed with the plain ones and only three of those revolting round, bubbly ones. I felt genuine joy. Not like plain ones. No, I like the sandwich ones.

I like the plane. I like the plane. I felt genuine joy like I had beaten the system. There was a time in my life when excitement meant going out till 4 a.m. having hot sex with unsuitable men, but today it was a statistically improbable distribution of licorice. By tea time, my kids told me to shut up about it and stop being such a sad case, so I decided to email you instead. Anyway, if anyone needs me, I'll be riding this high for the rest of the week. Thanks, Julia. Julia, I'm sorry, you're wrong there. You're wrong. Like, I get that

you're happy about it, but the plain ones, you can't actually just buy the plain ones. Oh, no, because there's different kinds. There's the like cylindrical plane Yeah But there's now a new kind of plane Which is the Mr Bassett Also plain but slightly different chewier Don't like that

Love it! Don't like that Love it No I like the sandwich one So we would share a packet of licorice all sorts Beautively Can I tell you what? I don't like the round one

With the bobbly bits I hate that Nobody does BIN But I tell you what I do love It's coconuty No no no no no No that's just aniseed

What I love is the one With the plain Liquorice in the middle And then the coconut Outside It comes in pink or yellow No that's disgusting No that's the coconut

one. We are going to share the shit out of the licquish. No, I'm talking about the anisee ballie one. It's covered in tiny anisee balls. That is the gross one with the jelly inside. Okay. That's binned. Well done, Julia. I want to go and talk my makeup out. I'm excited for my new. I'm telling you, you're going to have a lot of compartments where you can fit one lipstick in or a few makeup brushes. That's it. You're not going to be able to fit in your, there will never be wide enough for your foundation. They'll never be wide enough for like your powder. You'll never be a able to put your powder in there. I don't have any powder so that's fine. Why are your bronzers? No, that won't go in there. Your number seven

bronzer, that won't fit anywhere. But that's a big, that's a big fuck of that put. Yeah, okay. Okay. But it should have a compartment for it. That's the point of these carousels. Why laughing? It's true. Why are you laughing? I just don't know what to do with the size of this and all this and all this pronger. Why is it so big? They need to make a mini version. Can we petition number seven to make a normal size. Do you think we should petition something a bit more useful?

No, I think that's our petition. Like the gender health gap. Or something like that. When we're done with... Like really petitioned to number seven to make a travel size Bronzer. I'm not going to... I'm not like, just no. When we're done with fixing the gender health gap and fixing medical misogyny,

can we move on to please doing a travel size of the number seven bronzer? There's a new housewives, rural housewives of Rhode Island. It's very, very good. Is it? Two of the housewives have... have been petitioning for a piece of legislation to be passed off so that menopausal women are protected in the workplace. So you know how there are now laws for pregnant women and they can't be discriminated against

or they can't lose their jobs. They have now passed that off in Rhode Island, the first state in America for menopausal women to have protection. Interesting. Isn't that fantastic? Yeah. So then I started, well I didn't. I wanted to start Googling about how to get that passed off here because menopausal women do need protecting in the workplace. Because how many menopausal women are pushed out. Or they have to leave because no one understands what the fuck's going on with them and they can't manage their jobs. So I just thought that was absolutely amazing. And then I thought, oh, we should be doing this. This is what we should be doing.

Do you think? Yeah, I do. Do you know what I really am not going to be able to cope with? is that, oh my God, we've got to go to number 10 on Tuesday and I don't have an outfit. And that is going to be more than like the petition and it getting signed off and it being in the Sunday times and like changing the law. It's all going to be about the outfit. I can just see it. I can see it now. I can see it now. Be like, I have to wear something for number 10.

I have wear this and I have to wear heels and I can't have my trainers. But then how are we getting to? And I'll be like, how are we getting to number 10? That'll be my problem. I'm like, well, we'll just drive. You're right. There's no way to park. There's no way to park in number 10 of Downing Street.

The police are out there. And you'll be like, we're not getting the tube to Downing Street, okay, because I'm in my new outfit with heels. That will be the whole thing. So do you know what? No. Just a whole. No.

Don't you think that would be an amazing thing, though? Get that past off. Are you sure it's not happening? Do you know about it? Because I don't. It's the first state in America. Yeah, but they're behind with a lot of things, you know, like abortion. Yeah.

That we can do here. Yeah. I reckon there is stuff going on around that. And I bet Debena's on. it, we'll have a little deep dive. It'll be more useful than Timu. And probably less

and a travel site number seven bronzer. Less spinning wheels. Are we done? Good time, yeah. We will be back on Thursday.