40ish - Blood Tests, Sexy Exes and Husbands Hiding in the Loo

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

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Our husbands? Yeah, they definitely don't want that. They definitely, I don't blame them. No, me neither. What's the most 40ish thing that's happened to you this week? I'll tell you what's happened to me. I had to have some more blood tests because I feel like once you hit 40 I had to have some more blood tests because I feel

like once you hit 40 you just have lots of blood tests. Can I tell you something? Right? Okay, I'm with you on this. I've got a lot to say about this. I'm like a pin cushion at this point. But it's not even blood tests. It's just like tests. Like I seem to go to a lot of doctors and, by the way, I am a well woman. Me too. Very well. So I seem to have a lot of doctors appointments

and I'm well and it's just because of my age, it's all age related shit. Yes, yes, yes. So I feel so sorry for the women that are 48 that aren't well. Me too. They must go to so many more doctors. So for full disclosure, I mean, you know, not that anyone cares, but basically they had to keep an eye on my thyroid, how boring. So I had to have another blood test and know, I'm not good. You had to do my finger prick blood test once because I was such a baby about it. When I told you it was a prick and you were running around. I'm not good with small pricks Nicole. I'm not. I don't like them. I so set you up for that. It's like in paddle when I just hit a shot to somebody and then they smash it in me and it's like my own fault.

That's what happens. Yeah. I went for the blood test and I said to the guy- Do you like how I bring everything back to paddle? Yeah. Actually, can I just say I've got a bone to pick with you about paddle? I was scared. Last night I had a dream about being on a paddle court with you.

Oh, that would be amazing. I don't even play paddle. No. I'm now dreaming about paddle because you talk about fucking paddle so much. It's now infiltrated my subconscious and it's happening in my sleep. In your dreams. We were on the paddle court. In your dreams.

We had a whole conversation about paddle, you and me. Were we a good duo? I don't know. but I woke up and I was like fuck you I don't even play paddle and I'm dreaming about paddle. This is really annoying. I think it's fabulous maybe you should start playing paddle. Why I don't want to play paddle. You don't know you'd probably have so much fun. I have played it on holiday it just looked a little bit aggressive. I don't play aggressively. Anyway I went for this blood test. I'm going to get a ball over there anyway go on. I went for this blood test very nice man who was doing it and I said listen I'm going to be straight with you I've had three children you'd think I wasn't a bit of a pussy but I'm a bit of a pussy. Did you use the word pussy? Yes I said so you're having... In front of

the phlebotomist? Yes the phlebotomist. Yes love that name, so do I. I said are you good at this? He was like I'm so... Am I good at this? He's a phlebotomist! No, but I said I'm telling you I bruise for a week after my... he said you won't bruise with me. I said well I hope so because I always bruise and I said did you... what... how are you with blood tests? And he went I'm so brave, I do my own. Anyway, by the time we'd had this chat it was over. It was done. And then Did you bruise? Actually, only a tiny bit. So he was good at his job. He was good at his job. Anyway, the results come back. Nothing wrong with my thyroid.

That's great. However, congratulations. However, my cholesterol. Not good. Well, why were they checking your cholesterol? They just did a full check for everything. They do that, don't they? Because I? They just did a full check for everything. Because I went to the GP the other day because I wanted to get my bloods done. Why not? I haven't had them done in about three and a half minutes. I want to get all my hormone bloods done because I'm always trying to prove that my hormones

are out of balance. It's literally become a full-time job trying to prove to the doctor or the gynaecologist or to anyone that will listen that, oh, it's my hormones and I'm not actually feeling this anxious and stressed and moody. Just life. It's not life. It's not life. It's not me. It's my hormones or lack of them. So obviously I booked a GP appointment and that took a fucking year.

Anyway, and I'm in there with her and I'm like, I just need a blood test. Yeah. And she's like, should we just check your cholesterol whilst we're at it? Like, why? What is this? I'm 48 and now I'm going to have to need a blood test. Yeah. And she's like, should we just check your cholesterol whilst we're at it? Like, why? What is this? I'm 48 and now I'm going to have to worry about cholesterol. That's what he did to me. I don't even eat fried food.

He was like, while we're at it, let's just check your cholesterol. You're white. You're this. I was like, fine, just check everything. Anyway, so I rang my mum because you know, that's what you do. I was like, mom, I'm going to high cholesterol. And she was like, I'm sorry to tell you, darling, this is just age. It's an age thing. I was like, but you don't even eat badly. But you know what my mum's got high cholesterol

and she's very thin and she doesn't smoke and she doesn't eat any fried food and so I think sometimes it's just one of those things that happens with age. She said did they put you on the statins? I was like no because I'm not 70. No it's nowhere near high enough nowhere near. It's just tipping over what they like. So what do you do about that? They just retest in a year and they send you a leaflet. Which you will read. I have read it.

Should we go to a list of questions? Yeah. Before we go to your questions, a quick disclaimer, we're not doctors, we're not healthcare professionals, we're not phlebotomists. Phlebotomists. Although we have just interviewed a very lovely doctor for Self Care Club. He's a colorectal surgeon. Yep. And Lauren was asking questions you'd think she thought that she was a doctor. Yeah you I'm a doctor adjacent. You are not. I am. But the conversation you were like nodding and you're like oh yes oh yes I've heard

this oh yes I thought so too it's like oh my gosh she actually believes like somewhere in her past life that she was a doctor. When he started talking about the vaginal microbiome I was so in there. was a doctor. When he started talking about the vaginal microbiome I was so in there. I mean that was great. It's not the best morning of your life. It really was, there's a little more I love to talk about. I think you mentioned something about a flannel. What was the flannel story? Oh it's called seeding. Like some women if you're going to have a plant cesarean and you want the baby to have all the benefits of the bacteria that it would have in the birth canal. You can stick a flannel up your vag for a few hours before the caesarean and then when the baby's born you wipe that flannel all over the baby's

face and you replicate the journey through the birth canal. It's very clever you see. He agreed with it. He agreed with it. He agreed with it. He liked that shit. I think he was just being charming. Charming. He was very charming. Anyway, the point is, if there's an issue you're struggling with, please contact a qualified expert. Not Lauren. Not me. Not Lauren. Please. Don't get sucked in. Okay, question one. I'm ready. Dear Nicole and Lauren, I want to talk about

husbands, specifically mine, who uses the toilet as his man cave. I've been married for 18 years. I feel like he has spent at least 11 of those in the loo. Whoever this is, we need to be friends. If we've got guests arriving and I'm cooking, tidying, getting everything ready, he's in the toilet with his phone, minimum 16 minutes. That's specific. That is specific. She's been timing him. Every time I need to talk about schedules, the kids, bills, he suddenly has to just nip to the loo. And then he stays there until I need to go off and do something else. He also magically in the toilet every time something inconvenient is doing like walking the dog,

taking out the recycling, kids bedtime or homework. If I spent as much time in the loo per week as he does, I swear the household would fall apart. Is this a universal husband issue? How do I coax him out of there? Is this just something I have to put up with? Please note I'm 48 and my tolerance is not what it was. I listened to this show. So I know you know what I mean. Thank you. Alyssa. Alyssa, we, we, we know that you know what we mean. We know that you know that we know what you mean. I feel like we have discussed this issue before. Listen, I am here for discussing it again. I don't think we can discuss it enough, but I feel like we have had this discussion many times or is that just us privately? I think privately we've discussed it many times.

You've done something to your eyebrows. No! You have! I haven't. They look darker. I haven't done anything different. I've used the same makeup I always use on them. Okay.

Sorry. Not sorry? I don't know. They're hidden under a fringe. You can't see much of my eyebrows anyway. It's like throwing me off. Is it? A little bit. Wow. Do you remember that time that you kept the tint on? That I forgot to take the dye off. Yeah. And I came to the studio. Yeah, that was brilliant. You're like, what the fuck is wrong with your

eyebrows? I'm like, oh my God, I forgot to take the dye off. Right. Husbands in the toilet. Yup. Yup. What do you want to say? I don't really want to say anything because I don't like want to... you go. Is it a universal husband issue? Yes. Also, can we add to that, I'm raising three, one, two, three, men. Three of them. And I thought I'm gonna engage in this subject with my youngest because he's 12, he's not quite yet a man. He did walk in yesterday and say the first thing he said was I need a poo. Why did you take so long to answer the door?

Yes he did. He said I'm standing at the front door, in front of you, I'm standing at the front door, I need a massive poo. No it wasn't in front of me, he didn't know I was there at this point. And you take too long to answer the door. I'm like, it's very, what I've learnt in a household of four men is it's very important to them. The poo is very important. The poo, and it's like a big part of the day.

Oh, it's an event. It's an event. It's scheduled. So I... We definitely have to schedule it into Adam's morning for sure. Do you? Well, I don't. What about if you're like leaving for the airport or something? No, then he's fine. No, because then he's airport Adam.

Airport Adam is a different Adam? Airport Adam is a different entity. Isn't Airport Ollie a different... Oh, it's a whole busy person thing. Airport Adam and I, we would never have got married. Oh my God, he walks like 28 steps in front of the rest of the family. He's at the desk, he's busy, he's doing this. He wants to talk about the lounge.

It's a whole thing. And also what I find really interesting is Airport Adam, when you're getting off the plane, that's when it really kicks into gear. Is he up before the engines are off? Airport Adam is like, he has got his bag on his back, ready to sprint off this plane. But the whole part of Airport Adam is built up to this moment. This one moment of getting off the plane, being the first person off the plane and getting to that passport control

before anyone else. ASAP. Ollie is the same. He is obsessed with it. It's like a marathon. And if you don't keep up with that long walk to passport control, you are in big trouble. Because he's got the passport, right? And he just disappears. And I always say to the girls, don't worry about it. He can't. You can't go anywhere. Otherwise, we can't leave this airport. Yeah. You know, it's going to be fine. Yeah, it's true.

But anyway, when the kids were little, yeah, with airport, I don't know. But the buggy, you know, that wasn't and I had to always wait for the buggy. Yeah. Buggy. And then you've got a toddler on your hip and then one's covered in snacks. It's just so focused on passport control. You can't see anything else. Men are so weird. It's actually not airport, Adam. It's just passport control, Adam. Because the whole day is built for that one moment. Yeah, the one moment. But that's not

the same as a toilet, Adam. No. No. Anyway, no. What I learned... Different. Different, Adam. know what I learned different different Adam was it's a very different energy I once asked them all what is it about the toilet the half-hour poo what is that for you because you know escape sure like what is that yeah they replied and they said it's a you'll love this will I yeah I actually love it well no but yes no I don't it's a it's a very no, but yes. No, I don't think I'm going to love it. It's a very relaxing time. That's what they all said. Like it's time for us to relax.

And I was just like, you... Let me tell you something. I mean... When I go to the loo, I need to get in and out of there as quickly as possible. Obviously. I've got shit to do. Literally. Literally.

I do not have half an hour, 45 minutes, sometimes longer. I mean, the other night, I really shouldn't say this. The other night, he said he went upstairs to go have a shower and I got into bed and I really wanted to watch my program, which I'm not watching with him, and each episode is 45 minutes. And he goes, and I thought, oh, he's having a shower, so he'll be back out in a minute. He's like, I'm just going to go to the loo. And I thought, oh, a whole episode. That and the shower. I got a whole episode in. Just saying. I'm so happy. Sometimes it works. You've got to work this shit to your advantage, Alyssa. I don't know any mother slash wife who spends half an hour in the loo. I have never met this woman and

if she does exist, she's a unicorn because I'm telling you women, it's like I need the loo, go to the loo, I leave the loo. End of. I think we should text our girlfriends and ask them how long do you spend doing a poo? I know, I've had this conversation but you know there's no iPads, phones, novels, there's none of this business right? You're in your out, you're in your out. Unless you've got a bad tummy. Yeah that's different. It's rare. Yeah it's rare. I mean I said to you this morning because my life is so mental this overloadedly mental this summer with everything that is going on I was forced to go to the toilet and simultaneously pay a parking ticket because I didn't have the

bandwidth or the time to do both separately. I often I have to say I do often multi-task I often do myocardial shop but that's too long myocardial shop takes me at least half an hour. Why? What? It takes me forever. Don't be ridiculous. What does it take you half an hour for? It does. No. What are you doing? Putting stuff in the basket. Don't you have like an automatic trolley?

Oh, I don't like the automatic trolley. Do you know what? I'd actually like to get rid of it and I don't know how to. I've even gone on my laptop, onto Ocado. I can show you. I need to remove a lot of... Because a lot show you. I need to remove a lot of, because a lot of the time I have to remove a lot of the items. Yeah. But you've got my favorites.

Favorites, yeah, that's different. You can shop from favorites anyway. I do shop from favorites. Oh, okay. I know, I do, but it doesn't take me far from it. I don't think that anyone in my house is multitasking. On the loo. No, they're doing Wordle, they're reading the paper.

They're relaxing as they say. They're relaxing. It's basically like half a spa day. Well often, Adam sends me funny memes from the loo. Yeah, this is where the whole men and women of very different thing comes in. Alyssa, you're not alone. You know you're not alone.

I think she just needed to share it with us. And she said, I swear the household will fall apart. Is this a universal husband issue? Yes. How do I coax him out of there? You can't. Is this something I have to put up with? Yes.

Should you have to? No. But you do. Is it okay? No. But it's life. Can you change it? No. You can't change it because i'm i'm there from

the beginning raising these toilet obsessed men and i'm telling you i feel like i did a normal very normal good job in most things and i couldn't no this is genetic yeah it's programming This is genetic. It's programming. I don't know what the fuck it is, but it's really annoying. On the marriage front, I've got a 40ish thing. I want to talk about the pettiness of marriage. Oh there's nothing more petty than marriage. What's more petty? Like we had a conversation the other night that we were both basically trying to outrun the other one with who had done more miles in the car. My daughter needed picking up, she needed picking up. It's like a 20 minute drive there, 20 minute drive back.

She wanted to be picked up at half past 10 at night. Neither one of us could be fucked to go. So we're both sitting there making our cases of why we shouldn't go. Well, I went to Muswell Hill and then I went to Ordenham and then I went to here and then I went to there and then I made dinner and then I washed the towels and then I did this and I did that and that's why I shouldn't go.

It's an extension of the who's more tired argument. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what is that? When did we become so petty? Because when we first started going out, we weren't petty. Oh, I think I can actually top that. Ollie and I are in a silent, completely silent war over which way around the toilet paper is going. So do you remember weeks and weeks and weeks ago, a listener wrote in about her office dilemma with this lunatic woman was putting post-it notes because she had to have the

Loo World one way. And I went home and I was telling Ollie about this thing and he was like well under and I was like no obviously over anyway I hang it over every single time he goes into any of the toilets in our house he turns it over the other way and I know it's just to annoy me so I turn it back and we've now so you you're doing it too. Yep. So it's now been two weeks of the toilet paper silent war where any time either of us goes in, it gets switched around. Anyway, two days ago, I thought I'm just going to fuck with him and I left them. What do you mean you left them?

I left them under and I've left them all under ever since. And I thought now he thinks that he's won. Yeah, he hasn't won, but I'm going to let him think he's won. But what's really happened here is I've decided not to be petty anymore Therefore I'm winning And I've never said a word and I thought that that's the petunis of marriage because if you and I live together Whichever way you put it fine whichever way I put it fine and we wouldn't do that to each other. We just leave it Let me tell you something if you and I live together. Yeah, I would not notice

Which way the toilet roll is. I never notice. I don't care. I am too busy trying to prove that I've done more journeys than he has. It keeps me and us very busy. It's a lot of conversation. To who won? Well, I literally said to him, I is I had been running the kids around. Well, this is the thing. I'd been running them around for like two weeks. He'd been traveling loads with work.

Yeah. And he came back and he's jet lagged. So I always give him a couple of days, but the couple of days had far past. I think he'd been home for four days and he was still using the jet lag. And I'm like, no, no, you can't use air miles now. You just can't. It's not going to wash here. Also, if you had got off a plane from Australia,

you would still be expected to wash the towels, so. And I would still be expected to go and pick the kids up. You would. Because I've been away. Correct. It's different. Yeah. And he's like, oh right, I'm not allowed to be tired.

I'm like, you're allowed to be wherever you wanna be, but I'm telling you now. I'm not picking her up I'm just not it's really good when your kids start driving. I can't wait one of them Yeah, it's really helpful because also then they can go and get another one of them. Yeah. Yeah, it's handy And then you say I'll go and I'll fill your petrol tank up. Yeah, go on pick him up. I'll give you a turner Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's nice. Yeah. on pick him up I'll give you a turn up. Yeah yeah. It's nice. Yeah anyway the pettiness of marriage it takes up a lot of conversation I'm not here for it. Aren't you? Well I am here for it. You are. I don't like it or not. I don't want to be. No one wants to be.

No one goes into these romances thinking one day we'll have an argument about toilet paper and who's picking who up. Yeah or who's done more miles who's more tired, or who's more jet lagged. No, you go into it with high hopes. Well, you go into it, you're completely in love, you're completely besotted with each other and you can't wait to start your life together. And then it turns into, no, I'm not driving there because I've already driven clear there and everywhere. To pick up the child that we made together. Together.

Because we were so desperate to have babies together and raise this beautiful family. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think we're selling this to the youngsters listening, if there are any youngsters listening. We're not selling this whole dream. There's no youngsters listening. They stopped about the husband on the loo. Hi ladies, help please.

Late on Tuesday night I was doom scrolling Instagram, mostly zoning out because honestly who actually cares how much protein Karen had for lunch again? I am so in love with that. When a follow request popped up from my first love, my ex from way back who broke my heart caused me to lose half a stone and cry listening to Alanis Morissette on repeat for months. Oh we all had that Jagged Little Pill album. Oh yeah. And it all got cracked out. I love that album. Still love that album. Amazing album. It's been-

Do you know there's a hidden song in that album? I did know that. It's been, I saw her live so long ago. Like- Not at Glastonbury recently. No, like when she was in her heyday, she was amazing. It's been over 20 years since we were in contact. I peeked at his profile. He's aging well. Oh, of course he is. That's been over 20 years since we were in contact. I peeked at his profile.

He's aging well. Oh, of course he is. That's why he's messaging her. He actually... Sorry, follow request. Yeah, follow request. He actually looks more handsome now than back then. I won't lie, it annoyed me. Rather than ignore... Rather than ignore it and go to bed, I accepted and I immediately went full digital spy snooping through every photo. Sure, has he got kids? What does his wife look like? What's he doing for a living?

He is clearly divorced. As am I. Within five minutes he had sent a high and a wave. I replied, wow, long time. I was trying to seem cool, but I instantly regretted it when he replied with, yeah, crazy. So are you married? And I suddenly felt like I was back in the sixth form. I panicked. I blocked him. I unblocked him because that was weird. Then I ate some toast at 2am wondering what the hell I was up to. Honestly, being in midlife is such a weird mix of nostalgia, low key anxiety and overthinking. Do I reconnect

or am I nuts? Thank you LD." That's her question. I love this. I love this and I love what an impact he still has on her. That is fascinating to me. Is it? Yeah, because I think there's so few, as you get older and you get, you know, you come more into yourself and more grounded in who you are. There's so few people that can have that, that you have that reaction to and that has that impact on you. I think it's quite something. And whether that's about him, which it probably isn't, because it's always about you, right?

It's about what's going on for her. And I think it's just something she should explore. Because I think that's powerful, strong. You do think she should reconnect? A good billion percent. Not a doubt in my mind. Why should she not? He's aging well. Oh, he broke her heart. Is that why? I think so. Yeah, but they're older. They're a lot older and they both lived a lot of life. Come on. He's not going to break her heart again. These are waters that she's treaded before. Yeah, but a long time ago. Mmm. I'd be very cautious. You are a liar. I am not! I'm a liar!

I would be very cautious. I'm a very cautious person. No, you're not. I am! No, you're not. You talk a good game. I read all the leaflets. I read all the manuals on everything. I'm not. I'm... This isn't about manuals or leaflets or instructions.

This is about chemistry, it's about nostalgia, it's about... I don't know. It's a lot. This is lighting you up. I don't know why. Because I'm excited for her. But I didn't get the vibe that she was excited. I got the vibe that she was like, I'm back in sick form, I feel anxious and overwhelmed. She's excited is what she is. Oh, is it that thing is it fear or is it anxiety? Well they feel the same. Is it fear or is it excitement? She's up at two o'clock in the morning eating toast,

not knowing what to do with herself. I think that is worth exploring. That to me is like someone has had a big like shift on you. I think that's cool. I don't. I think he's recently divorced, lonely and bored and looking for an easy lay and it's her. That's what I think. I think she should stay clear. I just know. Just know. That is so cynical. I know. But should I just I mean you don't even I don't have to finish my own I mean, you don't even... I don't have to finish my own sentences anymore. You don't? It is cynical.

Sorry? Is her name LD? LD. LD? Don't listen to Lauren. Go for it. Have some fun. LD.

Rewrite the past. No! Have you? Wait. She might meet him and not be into it. It doesn't mean that... It doesn't mean that the chemistry has to stay the same way that she was more into him than he was to her. It doesn't stay that way. Or does it? Does chemistry just not change?

I don't think chemistry changes. I think when it's there, it's there. No, I'm sure it is there, but she- But that's not a reason to go back into the water. That is the reason. No, I disagree. Why? Because it was- Well, she should go stay on dating sites

and meet people that don't do it for her or- Meet someone who hasn't broken her heart already. We all know that she is going to meet up with him regardless of what is said here. Right. She totally is. She probably already has. She can't sleep. She might be listening next to him in bed.

Yeah. Oh, listen to this. They're talking about you. Yeah. Right. Lauren said no and look, look how great it was. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Then it'll be like six months later, Lauren said no. She was right. She was right. Yeah. I think she should definitely explore it because she's going to anyway. Curiosity is going to get, but she's divorced, he's divorced. Why not? Why not? They're not doing anything wrong. They're not doing anything wrong. I'm just feeling protective of her. That's all. That's very sweet. I'm feeling protective of her too. That's why I think she should go and explore it. I don't want her to have to listen to Alanis Morissette again. Go listen, well... I mean, I don't mean that in a bad way. I love listening to her,

but I mean not in a heartbroken way. Is that what you would listen to now if you were heartbroken? I don't think I'd have the bandwidth to be listening to music if I was heartbroken. I'd be very busy dealing with custody with nine solicitors and housing I don't feel like I'd have the bandwidth to sit at home crying listening to albums do you know what I mean divorce is a bit busier than that I from what I understand why you gotta take it there why you gotta take it there custody I'll go and sit in the toilet for half an hour and think about it, shall I? Whilst you're taking a gado shot. That's our show on Fortyish. Please keep your emails coming in.

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