40ish - Capes, Loafers, and Vinted Fails

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

This week on 40ish it’s midlife shopping gone wrong. Lauren suffers a Vinted fail while Nicole debates whether she’s officially lost the plot after lusting over a Supergirl-style caped top. The gr...eat loafer debate of 2024 has returned from the dead. Lauren’s bought a pair, and Nicole is strictly forbidden to comment (good luck with that). Meanwhile, a listener writes in full of Halloween regret: her Morticia Addams costume was a hit… until she realised she was the only one dressed up at the office Halloween party. Now she’s convinced she looked like a middle-aged tart — her words, not ours. It’s fashion faux pas, spooky shame, and a caped crusade through the chaos of midlife. We love to hear from you! To share your feedback, dilemmas, rants, funny stories or general complaints about midlife please be in touch at: Email hello@40ish.co.uk Instagram https://www.instagram.com/40ish.podcast  TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@40ish.podcast Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/share/DVQWb6y2vesgeHEK/?mibextid=LQQJ4d  To order our book HAVE YOU TRIED THIS?” click here  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Have-You-Tried-This-Only/dp/1801293139/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1O7EA4ZF1O5CS&keywords=have+you+tried+this&qid=1699449028&sprefix=have+you+tried+%2Caps%2C125&sr=8-2 This episode is sponsored by London Nootropics Get 20% off at LondonNootropics.com with the code 40ISH Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everyone. Welcome to 40ish. I'm Nicole Goodman. And I'm Laura Mishkon. This is the podcast where we dive into 40-something life. The news, your stories, the dilemmas, and of course we bring you our own mess and challenges of navigating midlife. From mundane to ridiculous, we figure out how to survive midlife together, one-round crisis and or meltdown at a time, or all of the above. You can subscribe on Apple Podcasts for early access, add free listening across both our shows and bonus content, and you can watch the video every week on Spotify or listen on any other podcast platform. And if you've got something to share big or small, we want to hear it all, so please do email us. Hello at 40ish.com.uk. Please, please keep being in touch. We love having you as part of the conversation.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Look, we got through that whole thing professionally. And I can see that our most 40-ish moments of the week that we've both written here are both shopping-related. Well, I mean, yours kind of inspired mine. Oh, okay, okay. Do you want to go first?
Starting point is 00:01:17 Well, I found this, you know how adverts for clothes come up on your Facebook? Totes. And then I get quite drawn into those. In fact, I do, I would say, 80% of my shopping from those bloody Facebook ads. You are a dream customer. Yeah, I am.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Karen Millen, I'm never shopping Karen Millen, do you? No, never. Anyway, this, it can only be described as sort of like a post box red, the neck, sleeveless, body suit, cape. Oh, you sent me the photo while you were on holiday? The back of it was just fringing, really, really. really long, shoulder to kind of ankles, fringing. Yeah. Like a cape.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yeah. The rest of it was like a vest, a bodysuit vest. Very well described. Thanks. It was fabulous. Oh my God. I believe I said to you, love it, buy it immediately. You did.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I was very drunk when I sent that to you. Were you? Yeah. You're never drunk. Well, I was on holiday. You're never drunk with me. You'll never drunk with me. I'm happy to be drunk with you anytime. Have we not ever been drunk together?
Starting point is 00:02:32 I think we have. When? I actually don't think we have. When have we been drunk? I've, I've, I've been drunk with you. Yeah. I know, as in you've been drunk. What? What are you saying? That night that we went to that dinner. Oh yeah. I was a bit drunk that night. You were a bit tipsy that night. I believe we got a bit drunk in Paris. Did we not get drunk in Paris? I think we did. We must have done. We definitely did. I think there's been a few occasions I think we've never been trashed together but I don't really do that anymore but no so you were a bit drunk anyways it's a bit drunk so then I was like
Starting point is 00:03:09 I showed it to my husband oh what was the point of that who was also drunk yeah and it was in the sale so I thought oh and it was 71 pound 50 in the sale so this is not a cheap item how much was it not in the sale I think it was about 20% off
Starting point is 00:03:24 so it wasn't like loads off I mean, it was like in the 80s 90 kind of bracket. Yeah. So what I'm saying is it's an expensive item to purchase. What did Adam have to say about this top? He asked me if I was a superhero. Well, yeah, it is giving Wonder Woman vibes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:40 But in a good way. Is it in a good way? Yeah. Anyway, I then looked at it in the cold light of day. I still haven't bought it. And they do it in like an off white. If they did it in black, I think I would have been all over that shit. Or would that be in a bit Batman?
Starting point is 00:03:54 Yeah. well or catwoman cat woman I don't mind cat woman I'm here for cat woman you see I like the fact that it's red it does give superhero vibes it is a bit supergirl
Starting point is 00:04:06 well I was I received that message when I was stone cold sober and I still think it's a winner winner winner chicken dinner anyway I haven't bought it it it's probably sold out well I'm waiting to get paid and then I'll maybe buy it but then where am I wearing it and also
Starting point is 00:04:23 what's the fuck am I wearing that with jeans the fringing is shoulder to ankle literally jeans what jeans it's literally jeans
Starting point is 00:04:31 and a nice top top it's more than a nice top it's like a what the fuck are you wearing top it's a piece but you can get away with that shit
Starting point is 00:04:39 also how do you have dinner in it you sit down yeah and then you put it back like a conductor you flick it back like you're wearing tails
Starting point is 00:04:48 top coat and tails you flick it back but it's all fringing so you'd have to like plat in and flick it At it. Well, you get a hairband, you tie it up.
Starting point is 00:04:57 It's not a top for sitting down and having dinner. It's a top for going to a party, being on a cruise ship, going to a Christmas party. It's a standing up, because it's a standing up top, because you've got to walk around and all the, all the, syching sash. It's like, I'm going to a party and I'm making a big statement top without having to wear a dress. What shape jeans? Slim. I don't have slim jeans. You can't wear it with a baggy jean.
Starting point is 00:05:24 No, I know. It would have to be a slim, or even like a black trouser, slim, but it has to be a slim silhouette, definitely. Yeah. Anyway, that was my most fortish thing. Like, have I actually gone mad? No, I don't think you actually have gone mad. Okay, I'm going to tell you mine now, and I don't want any back chat about it.
Starting point is 00:05:47 You know, back chat? I'm really sorry. It's a podcast, I know. The whole podcast is based on backchats. Okay. Bring it. So I'm allowed or I'm not allowed. You're allowed.
Starting point is 00:05:58 You're allowed. But I'm not changing my mind. Oh, God. What is it? It's happened. It's a year later. It's a dumb deal. You bought loafers.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I've bought loafers. I've bought loafers. Get over it. Deal with it. Deal with it. Talk to the hand. Maybe you need to deal with it. I have dealt with it.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I am. Because I feel like this is transference. I'm loving them. Great. Oh, you've worn them? I've worn them. With jeans. What jeans?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Like a slightly... Mum gene. No, like a cropped flare, actually. Yeah. When did you get cropped flares and I didn't know about it? Actually had them for quite a long time. You've never worn them? I have.
Starting point is 00:06:42 No, you haven't. You've not worn them with me. Okay, I'll wear them like tomorrow. They're not that special. Okay, they're tan, they're suede. I'm not seeing you tomorrow. Because I've got a mysterious text when you're telling them you've got some meat No, appointment at 1pm.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I was like, okay, fine. That's fine. Can we talk about the loafers? You were all a critic about what this meeting slash appointment was. Probably like the dentist or something really. They're tan, they're suede and then inside they are shearling. They sound great. Where they're from?
Starting point is 00:07:17 They're from Zara. They've got a tassel. They've completely sold out and I had them on the link and I had them on the when they're in stock email. and it just didn't happen and then I went to the store for Josh and they had one pair left in my size it was like a freak I thought it's meant to be. I feel like you've told me this story so many times
Starting point is 00:07:34 it's meant to be it's meant to be. This happened with the M&S ones yeah it did exactly the same thing happened but they were disgusting but these these are amazing how can you be so sure have you got them on? No I haven't I've got my crooks on I'm just sure and got your crocs on yeah got my crooks on today I seem to have a problem with a Shearling line shoe at the moment
Starting point is 00:07:55 That's all I want to wear Basically if my feet are not in shearling I don't want to know It's cold Yeah You're not walking the dog in Shearling No, I'm not walking the dog in Shearling But I've now got my Shearling crocs
Starting point is 00:08:06 My shirling loafers and my shearling slippers That's how I am with like leper print Like it's starting to take over my life Yeah But I also feel genuinely Because we've been discussing loafers on and off Let's just say They've been on the back burner
Starting point is 00:08:18 I feel like they've really hit their stride this season though But the same last year. But also, when it gets colder, what are you wearing them with? The long sock. Because they're shilling. But you're cozy warm. But you're not wearing them with socks? No way.
Starting point is 00:08:34 They're a barefoot item. They're a barefoot item. But because they're so fluffy inside, you don't need a sock. That's why they're so joyful. I did have a leper print pair sent them back. No lining. I'm telling you I'm all about the cozy lining. I'm going to let you try them on and you're going to be like, yes.
Starting point is 00:08:50 You're going to let me try them on. Thanks. Now back to this meeting slash appointment. What is it? Is it something really boring? Yeah, it's really boring. What is it? It's literally a...
Starting point is 00:09:12 And opticians. You're literally going to the same thing a few weeks later. Oh, you're having a facial? Yeah. It's the most... Well, why? Okay. No, we've been invited.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Excuse me, it's not the most boring thing. I mean, like, it's not like a secret because you're also going. Never, we've been invited to this beauty clinic in Harley Street, Mayfair. Yeah, but you're also going. No, no, I know. But you're like, you're so cryptic. What's with the, I can't see you Tuesday because I've got a meeting at one? No, I didn't say I can't see you.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I just said I've got a meeting. You did a meeting. I said an appointment. You said, you said, I'm not around Tuesday because I've got an appointment at one. Yeah. Yeah. Well, why don't you just say I'm going to that clinic? Because it was very long winded.
Starting point is 00:09:52 you know that thing and then you're also going in a few weeks no no i'm having that facial because that wasn't the message it was a whole other message and then on wednesday i've got to do this and i thought i'm not going to literally like write out my destination and road name for you for everything i have to do this week because it's very tedious and also you won't even read it oh okay thanks you'll be like Tuesday wednesday wednesday but i know you that's what you're doing she said Tuesday Wednesday said that's fine I read your text messages but you don't care for the detail. Actually, as it would turn out, I do care for the detail.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Okay. Because I thought you're... Good to know. Good to know. Because I was like, where the fuck's she going on a Tuesday at 1pm? That's where I'm going. No, no. I know that now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:33 But actually, you were wrong. Because you said I don't care for the detail. I do care for the detail. Well, I shall be sure to send you extensive long WhatsApps with every detail from now on that he won't to read. Will you read it? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Okay. I have never not read one of your messages. No, but I mean, You might skim-read? I don't skim-read WhatsApp. Oh, why? Why are they an anomaly to the rule? I don't feel like I need to.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Oh, because they're short. Yeah. Sometimes they're not short. I think this is a very interesting moment. You actually assume that I don't read your messages. I think if I give you two ones that are too long with too much detail and information. Not on a WhatsApp. Not on a WhatsApp.
Starting point is 00:11:18 But okay, so if I'd emailed it. Oh, no, I wouldn't read that. I mean, all right. Why don't I read that? This is complex to navigate. It's not. It's not. And also, if you leave me sometimes, like, my friend, my lovely friend, Danny,
Starting point is 00:11:34 she'll leave me like a four-minute voice note. Right. And sometimes it takes me like three attempts to hear the whole thing. You know what I mean? It's like, I haven't got time for a mini podcast. Okay, so I can't leave you a lengthy voice note. Like you would ever leave me a lengthy voice note. And I can't put it all.
Starting point is 00:11:52 on an email, but I can put it in a WhatsApp. I sent you a voice note the other day, whilst I was on holiday. You often send me a voice note. I don't. Yes, you do. Sometimes if you're I don't. I'm fine with, I'm fine with any form of messaging.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So am I. I think it would be a bit weird at this point if you start emailing me. I think that would be, that would be a bit weird. Right. But I'm fine with, I mean occasionally you, I message me. Always find that a bit. Oh, that's mainly accidental. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:14:18 Before we dive into your dilemmas, a quick disclaimer, we're not doctors or healthcare professionals. So if there is an issue that you are seriously struggling with, please contact a qualified expert. Hey ladies, love the pod. I decided to share my problem as I am now the ghost of social embarrassment, so you may as well get a smile out of it. My office had a big Halloween party on Saturday night, costumes, mandatory. I decided to go all in this year after being so boring. last time. I wore cat ears and some eyeliner tragic. I actually
Starting point is 00:14:52 think that's quite enough. Anyway, I went for sexy mortisha Adams, black dress, red lips, bit of cleavage, nothing outrageous, just a touch, vampy. Love it. Love that look. I got to the party, feeling fabulous, only to realize everyone else has gone wholesome. Pumpkins, scarecrows,
Starting point is 00:15:08 a couple of Glenda the Goods, people dressed up as Ted Lassow. Ted Lassow? Like a big mustache. Even my boss was a big fluffy K-pop. demon hunter meanwhile I was there looking like a middle-aged tart oh dear my boss's wife said oh wow that's brave and now I can't tell if she meant my outfit or my life choices I think she meant both so here's my dilemma next year do I play it safe like everyone else or do I own my mortician
Starting point is 00:15:39 moment and stop caring what the office thinks and is there a cut-off age where sexy Halloween becomes please put it away help me ladies I'm haunted by regret and body glitter. No, I'm not into this. Oh dear. I'm not into this. What are you not into? No.
Starting point is 00:15:55 No. Which bit are you not into? No. You wear whatever you want to wear. Okay, your boss's wife, fuck her. Whatever she said, it doesn't matter. Oh, wow, that's broken. You cannot be in control of what everybody thinks about what you wear.
Starting point is 00:16:12 So you could play it safe and someone could come up to you and say, oh, wow, that's a bit safe. And you've still got the same problem. do what you want go for vampy go for sexy you're not a tart you're just allowed to express your sexuality in middle age wow yeah i completely disagree why because it is the office christmas party and i would play it safe because it is the office sorry Halloween party i would tone it down for the office Halloween party friends family Halloween party whatever's because they know you in your full glory. She says nothing outrageous just to touch vampy. What's wrong with that? But we don't know what we don't know what we don't know she may be a generous chested woman so but they might have been
Starting point is 00:16:59 heaving out of that so what tissue dress it's it's her colleagues it's fancy dress if you don't want to be judged play it safer. I can't believe because she's feeling regretful I'm not saying she shouldn't wear it. I'm saying she's living in the regret of it. Okay, but I'm saying Play it safe next year. No, no, fuck that. Play it safe. No. We are not encouraging women to shrink
Starting point is 00:17:26 and play it safe. That is not what this podcast is intended for. It's about... Go ahead. Is there a cutoff age? No. There's no cutoff age. There's no age where you're like, between like maybe put it away. You're a little
Starting point is 00:17:41 old for that. Okay, like, what about short skirts That's on a 70-year-old. Why are we judging this? Why are we still doing that? Why are we still sitting in judgment over what women wear? Can't women just wear what they want to wear? I'm not in judgment over what men wear. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:17:59 I never notice what men wear. I don't really care. I mean, I often don't either. Unless it's really special. If I go to a party, I could probably tell you what 80% of the women are wearing, but I couldn't tell you what one man was wearing. Unless it was really outrageous. or really awful than you'd notice.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I think maybe just outrageous, not even just really awful. Well, if they were wearing like some really weird shoe, you know. Well, something that stands out. Yeah. I don't know why we're still
Starting point is 00:18:33 judging each other. Wear what you want to wear. Wear what you feel good. And she obviously felt good in it and felt a bit sexy. So that is a good thing. But she's just living in the regret because of this stupid boss's wife
Starting point is 00:18:46 who said, oh, that's brave. Okay, well, yeah, it is actually brave. Well, I think she was living in the regret because everyone else went wholesome and she went sexy. So it was like she wasn't fitting in with the vibe of the party. But she didn't know what the vibe of the party is.
Starting point is 00:18:58 No, she didn't, but she does now. She does now for next year. I'm not into having to play it safe and shrink and be smaller and be less than and disappear and blend in. And I'm not into that. Neither are you, by the way. No, but I am.
Starting point is 00:19:13 into being appropriate for the occasion. It doesn't sound like she was so inappropriate. She said black dress, red lips, bit of a cleavage, nothing outrageous. I'm really sorry. That is not over the top. I think the, oh, wow, that's brave, is very mean. Because no one is saying that in a nice way or a supportive way. I don't think she was saying like, oh, wow, you look amazing and that's really brave.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I think that was meant to be judgy and cutting. But it might have been judgy and cutting because she looked so great in it. Maybe. And she probably absolutely killed the outfit. And you know what? That makes other women feel insecure. Maybe. It does.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Quite possibly. Don't know. I do. Fuck it. Wear what you want. Be who you want. Do what you want. Really.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I mean, I have not got the patience for anything else. I said on holiday to my sister, I said, you know, I've never been a very patient person. No. But the very little shred of. of patience that I once had, I no longer have. It's just... Worrying? Gone. Worrying? I don't even care. Really?
Starting point is 00:20:19 No, don't care. I'm here for it. Like, I just don't have the patience or the time or the headspace to worry about what other people think about what I'm wearing. I mean, luckily for you, it's just you, me and James. Well, I mean, I'm in a pair of jeans and a denim shirt. We're not judging. If James came in and said, oh, well, that's brave. He actually did say that to me the other week.
Starting point is 00:20:42 when I wore a pink jumpsuit he said wow brave that pink jumpsuit first it was a dusty pink corduroy jumpsuit yeah right which was very very nice I always say it was brave no I think he just meant it in a mean way like it's horrible so he used the word brave do you think he meant it in a yeah yeah he's not normally he was he was jesting he you know that was that was that was that was what he said Let's go straight in with the meltdowns. Okay, let's do it. I had a vinted fail. I've got seriously into vinted
Starting point is 00:21:24 and I'm no shame in telling you that I am partly influenced by my 12 year old son who I would now say is a vinted entrepreneur. He buys he sells, he buys his sales, every day we're going to the in-post locker and every day he's packing something up. The kid is, and sometimes he goes to charity shops, finds things and then sells them on vinted
Starting point is 00:21:39 for quadruple the price. Wow. The kid is killing it. The kid has more in his bank account currently than I do. Good for him. I'm not joking. Anyway, I bought the dusty pink jumpsuit on Vinted and I really, really loved it. I loved it so much.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I bought another one in another colour, but in a size down. And I then realised that the pink one is actually a size too big for me. I thought, this is not a problem because what I will do is I will sell the one on Vinted that I bought on Vinted again and I will buy the size down. I'll wait to see if one in a smaller size comes up. Anyway, lo and behold, it did. So I sell the one that I bought. I buy the new one in the smaller size. It arrives.
Starting point is 00:22:21 I open it. I put it on. The fucking zip is broken. Completely broken. You can get it fixed, you know. Do you know how much it cost to a pair? 30 quid. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:31 It's really expensive to get a zip. I don't understand that. My mum used to sell zips at her shop, by the way. And I used to sit there and I used to mark them up. I used to price them up. They were about 75p. I mean, I'm going back a long way, but I reckon now they're probably about, what, four quid for a zip? Yeah, but it's having the zip fitted.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I obviously can't do that myself. No, I know, but how long does it take to someone a zip? No time at all, but I have neither the skills nor the machine. So I'm not going to spend what I've spent on the jumpsuit plus an extra 30 quid to fit the new zip, and I'm fuming. Meanwhile, the seller has vanished into the ever, and I have sold my perfectly lovely jumpsuit that was just a little bit big. Now, I have no jumpsuit. had this problem, I had exactly the same. I bought a Donna Ida denim jumpsuit. Do you remember? Yes. Now those Donna Ida jumpsuit, they are so expensive. And I found one in the sale for
Starting point is 00:23:22 90 quid. I was so excited. Denim jumpsuit, Donna Ida, 90 quid. For Donna Ida, it is a bargain. It came with no zip. Oh yeah, I remember. And I emailed them saying, excuse me, there's no zip. Yes, that's why it was so cheap. She should have said that. Well, it probably did and I probably just like. Oh, you skimmed it. Okay. Also, if they'd WhatsApped it, then it would have been fine, wouldn't it? You would have read the whole thing. Or voice noted it in under 30 seconds. Yeah. No, but 90 pounds. And they wouldn't take it back. It was non-refundable because it was a sale item. So I had absolutely no choice. So the whole thing cost me 120 quits. And guess what? Not so fucking cheap. No,
Starting point is 00:24:06 not so cheap. And it winds me up every time I wear it. Yeah. Is that your meltdown? Yeah. Yeah. Well, actually, it was because I saw yours in there about Vintage. I can't get into Vinted. Still. Still. And then occasionally a notification comes through.
Starting point is 00:24:21 So I go onto my phone, I click the notification and it takes me into Vinted. But then I can't get in again. So I can't sell anything. Oh, that's so funny. Because I can't get in and out. I have emailed them so many. Maybe Josh needs to have a look at it. Josh will sort it for you.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Don't worry. Will he? Can he please? He is the Vinted King of North London, that kid. Great. I'll get him to sort it. Thank you. You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Any meltdowns from the listeners this week? Can I just... Yes, there is, but there is also a piece of feedback about Graham Norton. Oh, please. And this came in actually a couple of weeks ago. Just share with the group. I'm going to because it is absolutely brilliant.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Dear ladies, I've discovered your podcast only in March this year and oh God, did it transform my life. I'm catching up on all the old episodes done with 40-ish. I'm at the beginning of 2023 with the Self-Care Club. Wow. That's a lot of listening. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:25:11 of listening to us. A lot of listening. She must be sick of us. Do you know, some days when I sit and edit us all day and then you'll like call me. Yeah. In the afternoon I just think, I can't talk to you now. Because I've been listening to your voice all fucking day. Go away. Yeah. Yeah. Not go away.
Starting point is 00:25:26 But, yeah. I've decided I'll write to you when I'm done catching up and I will, but I simply had to send this quick message. I'm neighbours. Get this, Lauren, with Graham Norton's sister. What? The actors. Sisters. It's Plural.
Starting point is 00:25:41 What? Every time I see her, since you mentioned him on 40-ish, I have a little giggle thinking about a little chat with him about your podcast. Next time he's visiting. Yesterday morning, I was having my adaptogenic coffee. Yes, London Neutropics. Great. Great. And almost burned myself when I saw Graham Norton passing by my window.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Shut up. Only because I was in my pyjamas and definitely not ready to face anybody. I chickened out, but stay tuned. Come on now. Love your podcast and I just want to say, you keep me going in the most difficult stage of my 40-ish life. Love Maya or Maha, M-A-J-A, I think Maya. Oh, I love that message.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Hello. What are the chances of that? She's neighbours with Graham Norton's sister or sisters. That is brilliant. That is brilliant. Isn't that brilliant? And he walked past her house. Well, next time you see him pass, please invite him.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Tell him he's an open invitation. Can I say something about Gray and Norton that I thought about when I was falling asleep last night? Oh, yeah. That was a real miss, him not being on the traitors this year. Oh, he would have been amazing. Wouldn't he have been an amazing traitor? Maybe he wasn't asked. Oh, of course he was asked.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Look at that line up. It's the most amazing cast. How could he not be in there? You were right, actually. He would have been brilliant. He's BBC. I'd love to have seen him on there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Yeah, he would have been. Amazing. Wouldn't he? But he would have had to have been a traitor. I might have him down as a traitor though, I think. But then how could he be a traitor with Alan Carr and Jonathan Ross? No, no, he couldn't be. Too much.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Too much. And also you've got to put a woman in there. Yeah. Yeah. True. Anyway, so that's our feedback. Okay, love that. Love that.
Starting point is 00:27:35 And our listener meltdown. Yes. Danielle. I wanted to share my day on World Men Pina Pals Day with you as it was very fitting. Tuesday is a work day, went to gym, went home to get stuff for work, and then drove to work. I work on a farm and it had been raining. Got to work and realized A, I was still in my gym gear and had not changed at home and B
Starting point is 00:27:54 had not brought any of my farm boots so had to feed 20 horses in my $300 runners. Oh, Danielle. Oh, that's not good. That's not good. Oh, that's not good. I've had a couple of episodes of weird. something's dropped out my head, but that's not the weird thing. The weird thing is that then 24 hours later, I remember that I forgot?
Starting point is 00:28:18 What's that? Sorry, I stopped listening. Say that again. I was sorry, because I saw something else that I've just read, but ignore me. I made an apple crumble on Thursday. I literally didn't hear any of that. I made an apple crumble on Thursday. On Friday afternoon, for absolutely no reason,
Starting point is 00:28:36 I remembered that I had forgotten to put. sugar in the crumble topping. Now, why did I remember that I had forgotten? I understand that I would forget in the first place, but why did I then suddenly remember that I had forgotten? Then two days later, I was sending out some invitations. I sent them all out. They had all gone out. 24 hours later, I suddenly remembered I'd forgotten to invite two people who were pretty fundamental to being invited. So I invited them. Why did you? Why did you? did I remember that I'd forgotten? Why are you confused that you suddenly remembered that you'd forgotten something?
Starting point is 00:29:15 Because that's, I understand that I would forget, you could call that, brain fog, forgetfulness, whatever you want to call it, but why am I suddenly 24 hours, ping, you forgot the sugar, ping, you forgot to invite these two people. What's that? Oh, no, I think that's perfectly normal. Is it? Yeah, well, I got to the gym this morning, and I was in the car, and as I was getting out the car, I realized I'd forgotten my headphones.
Starting point is 00:29:37 It's not like I was looking in my bag for the headphones. I just automatically knew ping in that moment. I'd forgot my headphones. But this is a whole 24 hours later. And it's not like I tasted the crumble and then went, oh my God, I forgot to put sugar in. It's like it just came into my head.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Like someone had dropped it in there. It was very strange because there was nothing that jolted me to remember. Thank God you did remember that you'd forgotten to invite those two people. It would have been so awful because I would have gone like, oh my God, why aren't they here? And why have they never RSVP? There's a piece of feedback in here which I think you've put in strategically. go on Sharon she says I'm messaging about Nicole and paddle okay paddle is big in the
Starting point is 00:30:15 Algarve and for the last five years it's so addictive but so many people of our age get injured because we think we're still 20 I had to stop after being laid up for five months and a back operation from falling backwards on court now I do the gym and swim oh I'm really sorry Sharon that's really shit I mean I didn't put that in to be strategic she just sent it in so it went in the show I mean I sincerely hope you don't fall over backwards on a paddle court because you've done enough back operations in your time i've done one it's enough you know what one was enough one was really enough walking you round half a block like i didn't even get to half i got to the post box i mean it was like walking with my grandma was not good all right i was 24 hours
Starting point is 00:30:57 post what i'm saying it one's enough one is enough yeah but you know i'm really pleased i had it done now good i'm glad it worked it did anyway thanks sharon Sorry about your fool and... I'm really sorry you can't play paddle anymore. She does get to live in the Algarth, though. That sounds pretty nice. She might be Portuguese. She might be.
Starting point is 00:31:21 She might be from the Algarat. It's so true. That's so true. Should we sign off? Yeah. Okay. I've done a lot of talking. I've actually got sore throat.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I'm actually really hungry. Well, you haven't eaten is 2 o'clock. I know. Outrageous. Outrageous. See you next week, everybody. Bye. Hi there, I wanted to tell you about a podcast that I think every single one of you will benefit from.
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