40ish - Drunk in Barcelona, Movicol and Menopause Awareness

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

In today’s show: Nicole goes to Barcelona. Nicole gets very drunk. Nicole takes  electrolytes and Movicol before bed and decides that it would be socially acceptable to kiss Jon Hamm if he just happened to turn up. Lauren decides to share her drunk texts with the nation. We also discuss the absolute state of modern “healthy” recipes including cauliflower fudge (why), cauliflower pizza (still why), turkey mince pizza (call the police) There’s also a dilemma from someone who is completely fed up with hearing about menopause everywhere she turns and wonders if awareness has gone too far. (Short answer: No!)  Plus petty midlife annoyances, full bins, clicky phone keyboards, Kirsty Alley, Family Ties (remember that?) all the usual chaos. If you enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend who needs a laugh (or an electrolyte). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Shall we talk about the weekend, Nicole Goodman? Shall we talk about your drunk texts? Shall we? Well, do you know what we are? Okay. I don't mind. I've got nothing to hide. Well, you don't mind.

You told me to write shit down. No, I told you to write down. I've actually remembered anyway. Have you? Yes. It's okay, because I've... I couldn't have been that drunk because we were having a proper conversation.

There was one sentence that I didn't write. in English and you were like English please. But the rest of it was all fine. I'm just going to begin. I just think it's better not to give any preamble. Nicole Goodman Saturday night. I'm currently in bed. No, no, no. You texted me first. What did I say? You said you'd had an appointment with the gynecologist and you basically told me how much you loved her. I literally obsessed with her. Yeah. That's how it, that's how the midlife conversation happened. Friday night at 11 p.m. I love my gynaecologist. I mean, I do love her. I love her. No, but what I'm saying is like, going to send her flowers this week. I'm not joking. She's like the best woman I've ever met in my

life. She is. Thanks. Listen, I love you in your many. What a compliment and a fucking dis all at the I love you in your many things, but a gynecologist, you are not. You know what? I mean, you could almost be. I've had so much experience with hormones. I reckon I could call myself a gynaecologist. And I've had so much experience with vaginas. I could almost nearly call myself a I think together we are one gynecologist. We're a dream team. Anyway, here it goes. I'm currently in bed, very drunk capital letters. Everybody flaked when I got here. Me and another girl went out. Can I give some context? Oh yeah, please. Because otherwise people won't know where I am and what I'm doing. I was in Barcelona for my friend's 50th

birthday. That's right. And they all got on a very early morning flight like the 6 a.m. They left home at 3 a.m. And I was just like, no, I'm just not doing that. Post-op. I can't can't be there on no sleep. So by the time I got there, I got to the hotel at like 7 p.m. They had been out all day. They were, had been drinking all day and they had been up all night. Right. So they were like fit for nothing by the time I got there. Yes. And they all basically fucked off to bed. What time? Uh, like eight o'clock, 8.30. Oh my God. They, but they hadn't slept. Okay. And they'd been drinking all day. So they were like, I'm so sorry about it. A war. I get it, but like, I'm just got here.

What am I going to do? Yeah. Yeah. So you went drinking with someone else. Yes. Who managed to stay up. Thank God she managed to stay up. Thank God.

What's she made of this woman? She sounds like she's made of strong stuff. You know, she used to be my gym partner. We used to race together. Thank God she was still awake. Okay. Here we go. I'm currently in bed, very drunk capital letters.

Everyone flaked when I got here. Me and another girl went out and drank our way through the wine menu. Then I think I like mustard. of, I don't know, done a wee or didn't reply within 10 seconds. Hello! Don't worry. I too, I too my electrolyte and my movicle. Now, if that's not middle-aged, I do know what it is.

Do you mean? You don't need to read out the smelly. Please put this as my most 40-ish thing as I'll forget. Yes. Then, and I'm not going to go into this, there was a whole other discussion about Jizz necklaces and John Hamm. We'll get to that. And snogging John Han.

We'll get to that. We'll get to that. And then... Can we not just stop on this moment? No. No, we can. No, we are. It's my show too.

No, no. No, we can't. No, no, we can't. Because you repeat it then. Repeat it then. This is my favourite bit. This was to do with John Ham. I reckon if he turned up in Barcelona,

it would actually be okay and appropriate to kiss him. And I said, it would not. can I go to bed now? You know what? In a sober state of mind, I agree it would not. Can I go to bed now? This is me. I suggest a large breakfast to soak up the wine and you say,

I've taken an electrolyte I'm good. Please write that down or I'll forget. I wrote it down because I was sober. I didn't write the whole conversation down. Oh, I didn't write the whole conversation down. I didn't write the whole. I've skipped a lot of it. No, we were texting for like 45 minutes.

And my friend who was asleep next. me and I was giggling away and I was thinking, oh my God, I hope I don't wake her up, which I didn't because she was out for the count. Well, it sounded like you had fun. We did have fun. We did have fun. By the time everyone woke up the next day, it was much more fun because it was, you know, nice to be with people. But we had a really nice evening. But my most 40-ish thing, which you've just skipped over. Oh, right. Is that I went out for a night out with my friend. We had like four, I'm not joking, maybe even, I think I had five glasses of wine. That's a lot for you. Five glasses of,

That's a lot. That's like nearly a bottle. Yeah. Come on. That's a lot to drink. And the last glass tipped me over a little bit. And then when I got in, this is just my most fortage thing. We've already said it. But I had to take, I remember to take my Movacol and my electrolyte. Well done.

If that is not a 49-year-old's version of rock and roll, then. Shall I tell you my most fortage thing? I'm being served recipes and I'm going to use the word recipe. very, very, very loosely here that are just fucking ridiculous. The one that tipped me over the edge this week was cauliflower fudge. That's not fudge. That's immediately no. Okay.

Do you know what I saw this week? What? I saw turkey mints pizza. It's also not a fucking pizza. What do you mean? The base. You basically make the base out of? Turkey mints.

No. No. Immediately, no. Immediately. And then she's like making it all crispy and... No. It looked utterly disgusting. No.

Turkey mince pizza is not a pizza. Have a pizza or here, here's an idea, don't have a pizza. Yeah. Have something else. But don't show me that you've mashed cauliflower, smushed it in a round shape and you're calling it a pizza. Fudge. It gives me actual like some rage. Why?

Because it's not... That's not about the cauliflower. It's not food. Rage is not about the cauliflower. It's not food. The rage is not about the cauliflower. Maybe not, but I can't stand it. The rage is so not about the cauliflower.

I can't even express you how the collie... Leave the cauliflower alone. I like cauliflower, but it's not fudge. But you don't need to put rage at it. But it's not fudge. It's not fudge. And it's not a fucking pizza. How do I remove these people from my life?

Or maybe from the planet? How do I remove the cottage cheese people from my... algorithm. Let me tell you how. I want them removed. Let me tell you exactly how. Please. Let me tell you.

Go on. I have got the answer for you. Yep. And I reckon it's going to be the answer for everything. I'm waiting. Estrogen. We had some feedback. Yeah.

Laura. I'm waiting for you to read it. Hi. Just this is a podcast where we're talking about the ridiculous price. There's a perfume. There is a website called Perfewan Parlor, which sells all the top brands for a fraction of the price. I'm talking £12 for 30 mils. Yeah, but that can't be...

I, I, I know it. I bought from it before. All perfumes are made using the same oils, but the brand shove it in a fancy bottle, put their name on it in charge of fortune. These bottles come with different names, but smell the same. But how do you know what you're ordering?

You have to deep dive, Google it, basically. But they can't say, or this is, this is Chanel number five. It's basically a jupe. Yeah, a jube. But there's loads of these websites, by the way. These bottles come with different names, but smell the same. I've ordered Chanel, Hugo Boss, Killian or Killen, Creed, Joe Malone and Moore.

Wouldn't notice a difference can even buy hand-soaked body wash in the same fragrance. Give it a go. Just type what you want in the search and it will come up with similar notes to Chanel. Oh, I see. Oh, so you do it in the search one. Similar notes. Yeah, but you have to kind of know exactly what you're looking for, really. So if I want like my perfume, which is molecule, right, what would I do?

How would I know which one it is? You'll put similar notes to molecule or you'll put in the key fragrance. notes of that perfume and it will give you some suggestions. There's a lot of perfume jupy things. You know what? They are good. Some of them are good. Some of them are less good. But they don't last. That's what I've noticed. Like they do smell very similar. But they're gone. But some of the perfumes don't last. I don't find diptee glass whatsoever. I agree. And it's so expensive. It's one of the most expensive. I put it on and

it's like gone. Yeah. I agree. Anyway. But none of them, None of the jubes, interestingly, do dipteak. No. I think they're too complex, maybe. I don't know. Anyway, thank you, Laura. She says, smell gorgeous for less. Love listening to both shows.

Thank you, Laura. What a live hack. But before we dive into your dilemma as a quick disclaimer. We are not doctors or healthcare professionals. We're nearly gynecologists, but not quite. If there's an issue you are seriously struggling with, please contact a qualified expert. Hi ladies, I don't know how you're going to respond to my dilemma slash rant, but I'm so sick of hearing about the menopause.

I know it's a big deal for many women and the symptoms are not nice. However, do we have to talk about it all the time? I feel like I'm hearing about it multiple times a day. We have menopause awareness sessions and e-learning at work. I'm targeted by advertising every time I look at my phone for some new product, vitamin, book, etc., which is supposed to help with menopal symptoms. I feel like it's constantly being mentioned on the radio, TV, by celebrity. is by people I know. If someone is forgetful, it's a menopause. If they're tired, it's the menopause. If they're angry, it's the menopause. If they're hot, it's the menopause. I'm

39 and I feel bombarded by all of the, the menopause is coming and it will be shit, messaging. I'm also a bit worried that it will make it even harder to be taken seriously as a woman in the workplace. Yeah. Since the prevailing message now seems to be that women over 45 are basically useless because of all the issues caused by their hormones. Okay. I'm guessing I'll be in the minority here and you're both think that the awareness raising is a good thing, but I just find it quite depressing. PH. Okay. There's a lot to unpack there. Wow. Okay. pH. Let's... Well, pH, the menopause is coming. Well, pH... And pH, it will be shit. And PS, you're 39, so you really have no idea what's around the corner. And also, okay, let's go with your theory.

let's just not talk about it. Let's just not educate women about it, even though it is unavoidable for 100% of women. You don't get to choose if you go through the menopause. It will happen to you, to all of your friends and to every living human woman that you know. So let's not educate anyone about it. In fact, let's not talk to girls about periods. Let's not talk to women about pregnancy. Let's just let everyone live it out with no advice. no education and no awareness and fuck them all, let them just get on with it. Should we do that instead? Or should we maybe try and explain and help women who are going to go through this

to understand what may be ahead of them so that they can perhaps prepare and be educated. How about that? I mean, just know. Just know. How much work have we done on trying to raise awareness

and help other women be prepared for the menopause and troubleshoot the endless cacophony of crap that is sent your way. Yeah. So I feel quite, as you may hear, a little annoyed about this. Yeah. But mainly because she's 39,

so she just doesn't get it yet. And I think probably at 39, I also did not get it. And even when I had a frozen shoulder, how many Christmases ago? Four Christmases ago? And everyone said to me, it's paramedopause, it's paramedopause. And I was like, fuck off.

I'm not in paramedopause. I clearly was in paramedopause, which is why I had a frozen shoulder. I don't think it was four years ago. I think it was four. No. Three, three Christmases ago, I think it started. I think women have been done such a disservice in the medical field. This is just my opinion.

Okay. And from all the doctors that we have worked with at self-care club, it seems to be a unanimous opinion that there is such medical misogyny within medicine because all of the research, most of the research is done on men. Even if it's, and here's a fun fact for you, pH, that, and I'm getting to my point here, that more postmenopausal women die of heart disease than men, but every single bit of research that is done on heart disease is exclusively done on men. Now, you can fact-check that, but we have had numerous cardiologists on the show that have told us this and are working to very much change that. Anything in the fitness industry and the health and wellness industry and anything that is done,

any advice that you hear of how women should exercise and what they should eat and how they should move their bodies is all, up until maybe two years ago, that recent, all of the studies are done on men, and it has been adapted for women as if we are small men. We are not small men, we are women with a complex hormonal makeup that needs a lot of study and research done. The fact that this movement has exploded is because it has been so, hidden from society and culture forever. And that has done a complete disservice to my mum, your mum and every other generation of women above us.

Going back to the heart thing quickly, also, when men present at the doctors or at the hospital with heart with chest pain, they are immediately checked over and check, oh, men, heart disease, heart attacks. Often when women present with chest pain, they are told it is anxiety, go home, there's nothing wrong with you, even though women die more of heart-related issues than men. Yes. That is absolutely true. And we've heard that numerous times on the shirt self-care club by doctors. Women are carrying the emotional and physical load of the majority of households. When they don't feel themselves and they begin to feel underpart or fall apart, everybody falls apart.

So it really should be vital that women are looked after in this decade so that they're able to hold up themselves and everyone else who they are still supporting. And just to highlight what she has said about, let me just go. I'm also a bit worried that it will make it even harder to be taken seriously as a woman in the workplace since the prevailing message now seems to be the women over 45 are basically useless because of all the issues caused by their hormones. Well, let's address this for a second because I'm 49. I feel like I am more productive, more clued up, more wise and more switched on than ever before. And I am now, obviously, postmenopausal since my operation, but I have been in the thick of perimenopause. So don't tell me that I would be considered useless because I feel actually at the top of my fucking game right now, because I know what I know. and I am so equipped with all of that knowledge

that I can now either pass on or do with whatever I choose to. So even putting that out there that it's a problem, it's a problem when people don't have the understanding and the education around it and suddenly a member of your staff who is female who is 47 and can't be at the office because of her crippling anxiety, that's a problem. Now people understand.

And hopefully measures are being put in place in corporate companies more and more and more. It might be bombarding and it might be all over your algorithm, but it's for a reason. Because it's coming for you, bitch. That's why, okay? And also, it gives you a, it gives you the power and the agency to look after yourself and support yourself through your menopause. And listen, let's just put it out there that there are some women who do sail through

this. It does not have to be crippling and life destroying and all. of the things that you're kind of mentioning here. Well, it won't be because they understand where to get support now. Right. That's the point of it, this. But, but on this, you know, for every woman who does sell through it, there is another woman who may find herself close to suicide. And we have heard those stories, right? We have heard about women who are, I mean, this I hear every day, but women who are just ready to blow their whole lives up because they think everything's terrible. It's not terrible. They're in perimenopause, but it feels terrible and it's very real.

Right. So for every woman that's fine, there's a woman who is very much not fine. And those women needs to hear. You don't need to suffer. There is stuff you can do to help yourself. I also have, I'm sorry, I have a theory about the women that are fine, because I don't believe, and maybe you would know a bit more about this, but I don't believe that your estrogen can just run out of your body and your testosterone and your progesterone could just leave your body and you not have one symptom. That does not. sound correct to me. Well, listen, it's a bit like to me the women who go into labour and have never known that they were pregnant. I think it's very rare, but I think there are some women who are not as in tune

with their cycles, their bodies, their feelings. You know, some people are very disconnected from their bodies. That's what I'm saying. But you might find that slowly and surely your life is shrinking or you don't really want to go out so much anymore or you don't enjoy doing the same things. There will always be a shift and

will always be a sign. So this, I don't have any signs or I don't have any symptoms. It, to me is not possible. Or it might just be extremely minor. You know, you might have someone who has the odd hot flush, but it doesn't have the emotional side. Or you might have someone who feels a bit of flat, but physically feels great. But you can't feel flat and great. You can't, those two things don't exist. I might have someone who's got a bit of joint pain, but it doesn't bother them that much. But also, it is vitally important that you have estrogen in your body until for the rest of your life. It is so important. It is so, so, you important for heart disease. It is so important for Alzheimer's and for your brain health.

It is so important for your bones and your strength and your general well-being in life. Like I am such an advocate for having estrogen. And I cannot tell you how many people have asked me since my operation. Oh, does that mean you could stop taking the HRT now? Because, and this is what's so interesting is that, and this is from women. Women still don't know. And I remember DeVina, DeVina saying this. They still, don't know. So for a woman of my age to come to me and say, can you stop taking the HRT now? As if it's like an optional medicine, it's like, how can you not know that I need to take HRT for the rest of my life if I want to live well? Like, I'm an advocate for that and I will always

stand by that 100%. And everyone gets to do their menopause, however they choose, and gets to put whatever they want in their body or not. Like, I'm not judging anyone. But for me and the things that I have learned because we have been privileged enough to work with some of the, some amazing doctors and gynecologists at the absolute top of their game, and their advice is always the same. Yes, your life is going to be better, richer, more vibrant if you keep estrogen running through your body. But there are also so many different options and ways of doing things.

There is no one size spitzel, there's no, you have to do this. There's always some sort of support and help out there for you if you go and ask for it. but no one's going to be knocking on your door saying, hi, how's 45 feeling? Can I help you? Okay? So I think of everything, isn't that what we've learnt the most? Is that you have to advocate for yourself? You have to. Anyway. You know what? Thank you so much for that question. Because I understand where she's coming from and I don't think it's coming from a bad place. She's frustrated. And also it allowed us to have what I think is a very important, conversation and I'm pleased we've had it. And I hope that helps her understand it a little bit

better from two women who are in the perimenopause and the menopause and have that knowledge to share to the younger generation because they need to know. So it's not about too much information. It's about that information is still not getting to the people that need it. I had a 26 year old who was asking me a whole, I mean, we must have had a 45 minute discussion over the weekend. She wanted to ask me everything about paramedopause and hormones and everything else. And I just, And she said, I'm sorry, do you find this intrusive? And I said, no, I don't find it intrusive. I am so happy that I can get to talk to you about it and pass on anything or everything that I know.

Because this is how it works. Like, this is how it's supposed to be. Share, share your information, share your knowledge. Help people who are younger than you so that they understand more. My mum didn't have that knowledge and she didn't have that education. So I didn't know. So when the menopause was hitting me, I didn't know. And I've had to learn it.

And now, my God, it's like my mission in life to make sure my girls know. They're like, yeah, we know. You know, they roll their eyes. Good, but good. It's like, but you have, I said, but also this, all this information is also informing you about your whole reproductive life, your whole, your hormonal health as a whole as young women. Because I have learned more about my hormonal life and how I respond with my hormones in menopause than I ever did when I was pregnant and when I have my periods.

You would never let your daughters just start a period and have no understanding of what a period was or how to deal with it or what to expect. No. The same with if they started to be sexually active. You would never let them just run through that without explaining to them contraception. What are their options? What are their choices? How can they not get pregnant?

How can they help not have any STDs? I didn't have those conversations. Did you? No, I didn't. But when they're pregnant, support, help, guide. like all the way through their lives, right, their reproductive lives,

they're given information and help. They're not. The menopause is the end of it. But they're not. That's my, they are now. I wasn't. No,

I wasn't either. So now, but it's absurd to, to teach girls about their periods and about pregnancy and not teach them about menopause. I don't think they are taught enough. I'm telling you,

I am now convinced after I've been through the menopause, I've said this too many times. I am convinced that after I have my second baby, I have postnatal depression because I understand how I react and respond when my hormones change now through my menopause. Because I got very low, very flat, very depressed, very anxious. Those exact same things happened when I have my second baby. That I'm telling you I have postnatal depression. And it went on, I think, for about, oh, a good 18 months. And had I have known then, what I know now, my God, my whole, that 18 months would have looked very different for me.

Yeah, I'm sure. And I don't. I want my girls to have the knowledge and the information they deserve it. I want all girls to have that. Yeah. Yeah. Look at me. Look at me. Hydrating myself over Monday.

I was just taking a moment. I was just taking a moment for you. She's like, wow. Oh my God. Watching me drink water. It's like spotting a rare breed. Okay. Well, I'll tell you my meltdown.

My daughter was in a show. She's always in a show. And she always, always sings musical theater. Yeah. because she's trained to sing musical theatre. And she decided to sing a Billy Eilish song, which you fucking hate, not her singing it,

but you hate the song. We've already had this discussion about it. I hate Billy Eilish and all her songs, but yeah. Is it anything you don't hate today? No, I hate everyone's today. You don't hate me though, do you? I love you still. Do you?

Yeah. Promise. I'm not making. Mums. Swearzies. Mums. I'm not making you rageful today, am I? No, no.

Not in the least. Good. Good. Anyway, the song, what was I made for? Oh yeah. What was I made for? Anyway, so she sang it at the show

and it was amazing. I've never heard her sing something contemporary and pop or anything and it was beautiful and there was a kid on playing the piano and it was amazing and I was like, I was like the proud mom and I was up with my hands up like this

the whole time my arms were hurting and everything else. So why were your arms up there? Sorry, I was recording it. You weren't just waving like a fan with a lighter in the crowd. I am such a fan. I am such a fan.

A fucking fan. Her number one fan. Adam's like, you are a fan. Are you like Cecey Bloom's mother in beaches? Are you her now? What's her name? Estelle. I don't want to get that wrong, but I think you're her.

No. I'm not her manager. Momager. I'm not her momager. You should be. I'm not. I shouldn't. You could Chris Jenner the shit out of that.

It might even buy you a hundred thousand pound facelift in your 65, or however old Chris Jenner is. It doesn't matter how old she is now, does it? She was about 15. I was recording her. Right, okay. Hands in the air for recording the singing. And it was just absolutely stunning.

And then I, oh, it was amazing. And I forgot to press play. Oh, you twit. Yeah. Forgot to press play. So I had the whole thing. I was up like this. Yeah.

Arms aching the whole time. Yeah. Like that, you know, proper fan. Didn't press play. I haven't got it. So you only got it in your memories. No, no. Like the 80s.

Then I, then I, because it was the kid that was playing the piano. Yeah. Right. And I said to him, I said to Adam, I don't breathe out. It's fine. It's not fine. It's not fine.

I just, I want it. I just want it. I just need it. I'm a fan. Right. And it was beautiful. It was a really beautiful performance. And then we came out and it was the interval.

And I decided to hunt down at the pianist mother. Did you find? I did find her. And I literally jumped on her. Daisy watched it. She's like, you scared her. Anyway, I got it. You've got it.

I got it. Okay, good. Yeah. Add it to your little album of songs. Maybe you could make your own DVD for the car. Why would I make a DVD for the car? You know what I mean? CD.

Playlist. What's the word? Playlist. Let's unpick that. Shall we? Let's unpick that entire. No, no. No, no.

It's too juicy. And it's too middle aged to let it go. So, let's first see DVD. Yeah, I know their visual. No, but also I meant CD. I meant CD. Also, they don't exist anymore.

They must do somewhere. No, when was the last time you bought a DVD? Don't answer. I don't want to know because if you bought it recently. No, even I didn't. Where would you even play a DVD? Even laptops don't. I think maybe like on an Xbox.

No, rhetorical. On an Xbox? Ritorical. I wouldn't try, but maybe on an Xbox. So first, you're not going to play a DVD. Secondly, where are you going to play a DVD? Secondly, where are you going to play a DVD in the car? I meant CD.

Apple Car Play. Yeah. I meant... I meant... But CD's worse. You're going to go to minidisc next. I meant... I think I'm in a tape.

I think I skipped a minisk. I meant a tape when you press play and record at the same time. And then you hold it down. While they're playing your favourite song on top 40. On top 40 on a Sunday. No one under our generation understands. that they just don't get it no no or when you're blank tape like the um i used to have blank i used to make blank tapes all the time mix tapes yeah but you know sometimes when the um ribbon would

come out and then you'd have to get a pencil and wind the ribbon back in and then pray that it didn't snap because that was the worst thing or did you ever have you know at home when you had blank VHS tapes and your parents would record their programs if they were out and then sometimes like dynasty exactly always dynasty and then sometimes you know would go to watch the dynasty that had been recorded, but some bastard had recorded over it. That was so bad, but the tape still said, dynasty. Yeah, January and you put it in it. It was like, what is this?

This is a dynasty. Yeah. So bad. This is like family ties. Remember family ties? With Michael J. Foxx. I reckon I could still sing that song. I bet we'd been together for a million years.

And I bet we'd be together for a million more. I don't know. I can't last. And it's like I started dreaming on the night we kissed. And I can't remember what I ever did before. What would we do, baby? Without her. What is that?

I loved that show. Loved that show, Mallory. Mallory. What is with me today? I am on. She was so pretty. It's Justine Bateman. Oh, Jason's sister.

Oh, do you want to see if I've heard of her now? No. Do you know what? I really don't. Okay. When I want to feel really depressed. She's 60. Is she?

Yeah. When I want to feel really depressed, I look at photos of Kirsty Ali and cheers and then now. I just find that the most depressing thing ever. It's the most depressed. It's the saddest thing. Didn't you always want to be Kirsty Allie and cheers? She was so hot and cool. And now it's like, no, time has not been kind.

When you want to be depressed, you go onto Google and you actually search for Kirsty Allie now and Kirsty Alley Cheers. This is your Google search. I just find it. And you think, right, I'm going to look at this and I'm going to feel really shi-up myself. And not do that. And whatever happened in those in between years, not do that. So now, whatever that decade brought her, Kirsty Allie is a cautionary tale in your world. Cheers!

Let's move on. Yes. Listeners meltdown. Yep. Because I don't know where that went to a weird place. It did. And I love that we have never ever in all of our years of friendship discussed family ties.

I've never thought about it since I watched it at age 10. Me neither. Until this moment. And that we both sang it together. It's very sweet. It was so wholesome of us. Wholesome. This is Helen.

She says, dear Lauren and Nicole, I've listened to your show from the start. I would like to share my list of petty things. that annoy me now at 44, as I think in many ways, they're more bothersome than a one-off big rant. Helen, I'm here for this, Helen. So, here for this, Helen. Where's the popcorn?

I'm settling in. Right, ready? Yeah, I want to know how many of these we both agree with. Okay. I'm so mad me. I'm so crazy. Are you? People who have the click noise on, on their phone keyboard.

Yeah, that's fucking annoying. That is fucking annoying. Why? Why do people do that? Although we both have long nails so I can always hear you tapping. Yeah. But I would never have the click on. No.

Or on my phone. On my phone, that's what I mean. Yeah. On your phone? It's really annoying. Tacky posters slash signs in people's homes like live laugh, laugh, or you don't have to be cray-cray to live. live here, but it helps. No. So tacky, cheesy. No. I hate that. It would actually put me off

a person. Me too. Me too. Being the only human in my house who can apparently see when a bin is filled, but rather than empty it, just crams more stuff in, so it then splits when I try to empty it. Yes, that definitely happens with my recycling all the time. That comes under the whole load, domestic load of the house, and I could go on and on and that could be an entire podcast, mini-series. Could just be a whole podcast. Yeah. When packets of food say peel here, but it doesn't peel.

Thank you, Helen. Thanks, Helen. Thanks, Helen. Right. My mic is dying a death over here. Let's go. Let's just go. Let's go.

You know what, Helen? It's never going to get better than peel here. So thank you so much for that. Thank you. We will be back on Thursday with a brand new episode. Thanks for being in touch. Keep your messages coming in. Hello at 40ish.com.com.